Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 203. Who are the Dark X-Men in Marvel Comics?
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- 0:10Hello Marvel fans, my name is Megan from Vigilante Vibes and I
- 0:14am here today with not really a character breakdown but a team
- 0:17breakdown. So someone in my comment section
- 0:20told me that the Dark X-Men absolutely do not exist because
- 0:25he never heard of them. So today we're going to talk
- 0:28about the Dark X-Men and I hope this one commenter really enjoys
- 0:32it and I hope you guys do too. So this particular team of Dark
- 0:37X-Men, as I said that the name Dark X-Men has been used a few
- 0:42times, but this one is the one I was referencing to when someone
- 0:46told me that Neymour has had nothing to do with the X-Men,
- 0:49that he has never been on any X-Men team.
- 0:53And I'm here to show you the team Neymour was on, which is
- 0:57the Dark X-Men, which was Norman Osbourne's X-Men.
- 1:01So let me get right down to it. And yeah, hope you learned
- 1:05something here. The original Dark X-Men debuted
- 1:09as part of the Dark Rain event, the Marvel status quo, where
- 1:12Norman Osbourne took over the United States and SHIELD.
- 1:15That team was Osbourne's answer to the regular X-Men, consisting
- 1:20of a combination of anti heroes, super villains, and press ganged
- 1:24mutant misfits. The original team did not last
- 1:28beyond Osborne's tenure as in Dark Rain, though the name has
- 1:32been used since For a while, this X-Men team actually ran
- 1:37missions targeting crime Lords and drunk drug operations.
- 1:41At first, Osborne wasn't allowed to interfere in mutant affairs
- 1:45due to the fallout from End Day. That changed when riots erupted
- 1:49in San Francisco and Sacramento over Proposition X and mutant
- 1:54rights, which gave Osborne permission to step in and deal
- 1:58directly with the mutant community and the X-Men.
- 2:01He sent his Avengers out to patrol the streets and keep
- 2:03order, but behind the scenes, he also secretly recruited Emma
- 2:07Frost, the White Queen, to lead her own X-Men.
- 2:11Well, his X-Men, but you know, it's Emma Frost.
- 2:16Just like with The Avengers, Osborne shows every member
- 2:19himself. The team consisted of Mimic,
- 2:22Omega, Cloak, Dagger, Mystique posing as Professor X, and
- 2:27occasionally Gene and Dakin acting as The Wolverine.
- 2:31Osborne also attempted to recruit former Alpha Flight
- 2:34member Aurora, but that plan didn't work out.
- 2:37So is it even worth mentioning? Emma agreed to take charge as
- 2:42the Black Queen on the one condition Neymour the submariner
- 2:46had to be included on the team. Osbourne rolled them out to the
- 2:50public as the official X-Men, carefully managing the media to
- 2:54keep the public opinion in their favor.
- 2:56At the same time, the real X-Men were painted as dangerous and an
- 3:01extremist group. While working with Osborne, Emma
- 3:05uncovered the Dark Beast had built a machine designed to
- 3:09torture captured mutants and funnel their powers into Weapon
- 3:13Omega. In response, Cyclops sent X
- 3:16Force to Osborne's Alcatraz base to rescue the prisoners and
- 3:20confront Osborne's X-Men. When the two teams were about to
- 3:24clash, Emma and Namor revealed they were actually double agents
- 3:28and helped X Force defeat Osborne's team.
- 3:31Before leaving, Emma invited her former teammates to join the
- 3:34real X-Men. Only Cloak and Dagger accepted.
- 3:37Which is which is, you know, it's Cloak and Dagger.
- 3:41They're just, they're good guys, you know?
- 3:44And then travelled with them to the newly established island
- 3:47base of Utopia. After the disaster in San
- 3:50Francisco, Osborne dispatched his X-Men to investigate the
- 3:54town where most of the residents had fallen into a trance,
- 3:57believing themselves to be X-Men.
- 4:00While there, the Dark X-Men witnessed the resurrection of
- 4:03Nate Gray, also known as X-Men. Seeing how corrupted the world
- 4:08had become in his absence and learning about Osborne's role in
- 4:12it, Nate immediately went to Avengers Tower to confront him.
- 4:16During that confrontation, Nate appeared to die, but in reality,
- 4:20he took over Osbourne's body. Osbourne's will turned out to be
- 4:24too powerful for Nate to fully control, leading into a fierce
- 4:28psychic struggle. Once Mystique realized what was
- 4:31going on, she led the team into Osbourne's mind to try and free
- 4:36him. Inside Osbourne's psyche, X-Men
- 4:40and the Dark X-Men came face to face with the Green Goblin, who
- 4:43you know who's Osbourne's twisted alter ego.
- 4:46The Goblin used Omega and Mimics abilities to drain Nate's
- 4:50psychic power, weakening him enough for Osborne to retake
- 4:53control of his body. After the fight, Nate was
- 4:57captured and taken to the Omega machine where he was tortured
- 5:01and had his power siphoned off into Omega.
- 5:04So after that it never really became clear exactly when the
- 5:08group broke up. They didn't really take part in
- 5:12Osborne's Sage of Asgard, with the exception of Dakin, who was
- 5:17operating as part of the Dark Avengers.
- 5:19So it's likely the team had already split up by that point.
- 5:22But we have heard the term Dark X-Men time and time again.
- 5:25It's been used plenty, but the most recent one we heard was
- 5:29last year. I think it was in the Sentinels
- 5:33miniseries. I want to say it was #4 where
- 5:36the Dark X-Men where someone was predicting the future.
- 5:39And he said the Dark X-Men will rise.
- 5:41And I'm very, very interested to see what he meant by that
- 5:45because he gave no other no other context.
- 5:48And I want to see the Dark X-Men return so.
- 5:51So again, the Dark X-Men that absolutely do exist consists of
- 5:57the Black Queen, Emma, Frost, Cloak, Tyron, Johnson, Dagger,
- 6:02Tandy, Bowen, Beast or Dark Beast, which is Doctor Henry
- 6:06McCoy of a different universe. Mimic, who is Calvin Rankin,
- 6:12Mystique who played Professor X and Jean Grey, Namor the
- 6:16Submariner, Omega and Wolverine who was Daikin.
- 6:21And I guess you know what it it could have had Aurora, but it
- 6:24didn't have Aurora. So there you go.
- 6:28Now keep in mind, as I said, the term Dark X-Men has been used
- 6:33quite a few times and the most notable time was when it was
- 6:36Madeline Pryor, the Goblin Queen who created her own Dark X
- 6:40during Marvel's Fall of X events.
- 6:42We all remember that wild time. It LED straight into the Dark
- 6:48X-Men number one that came out in August of 2023.
- 6:51And her lineup was pretty incredible, if I do say so
- 6:55myself, and I would have liked to see that keep going.
- 6:58So Maddie, Maddie the baddie, Madeline Pryor, my girl.
- 7:03Her lineup for her Dark X-Men were actually really, really
- 7:06great. It had Albert, who is there,
- 7:09Wolverine, he's a Cyborg. It had Chasm, who's Ben Riley,
- 7:14probably easily his coolest suit of his entire life, and plates.
- 7:20It had a Zazel, who you don't really see enough of.
- 7:23Archangel, Gambit, Gambit, the Raging Cajun.
- 7:29I mean, Zero, who's he's OK, it's fine.
- 7:35Havoc. Havoc's a big deal.
- 7:37I like that. And of course, led by the
- 7:40wonderful Madeleine Pryor. So to say that the Dark X-Men do
- 7:45not exist is a wild thing to say in my opinion.
- 7:50But not all of us know every single thing about Marvel
- 7:53Comics. I certainly don't.
- 7:55And you know, there's just so many better ways to say, hey, I
- 8:00didn't know they existed. Tell me more instead of making
- 8:04fun of someone in their comments section.
- 8:05That's kind of weird. You're kind of weird for that.
- 8:08But I love the X-Men and I like the Dark X-Men team.
- 8:12So thanks for giving me this opportunity to make this video.
- 8:16So yeah, I hope you learned something today.
- 8:18The Dark X-Men are interesting no matter what team you're going
- 8:22with. It also leads off to if you also
- 8:27didn't know, there's Dark Avengers too.
- 8:29So there's a lot of things in Marvel Comics that a lot of
- 8:32people don't know about, and I think it would be cool if they
- 8:34all knew. So yeah, thanks for giving me
- 8:37this opportunity to talk more about mutants, because a lot of
- 8:39you know, that is my love language and I love them.
- 8:43I love the mutants. I hope you enjoyed this episode.
- 8:46I hope you will like and subscribe, and I hope you have a
- 8:49marvelous day.