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Making Monsters Draft Series: Florida DL Caleb Banks & C Jake Slaughter · 2nd City Gridiron

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you looking back to another episode of Making Monsters?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Taylor Dall.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's Zach Goodall.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Swamp 24-7 covering the Florida Gators Act.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for hopping on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of Gators prospects in this draft.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're not going to be able to get through all of them, but maybe some of the ones that connect to the bears needs the most.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pleased to be here with Taylor.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's interesting Florida's got a first round pick in this class whether or not he actually goes there and off because of his foot injury I guess time will tell in Caleb banks, but it's been interesting coming off a four and eight year they might have.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: five, six last year they had seven guys drafted.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a nonzer chance.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They have the same number this year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting that even though it's not a very good team.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They have good players.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to start just the overall of the defense because I do think there was the defense definitely got better this last season.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: previous couple seasons, it did feel like there was, it was a liability at times.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the bears used a, you used a draft pick on Jervant Dexter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a class coming out of where it's like the defense wasn't very good, but Jervant Dexter and Ventral Miller were good, and that was kind of the conversation coming out of that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like it's starting to trend in the right way, and we'll see, obviously, what Summer all does there with turning things around as a whole.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But talk a little bit about the defense in general and what they were good, what they were bad at as a whole last year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say it really started late 2024, like there are two thirds of the way for the season, and something just kind of clicked.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were getting pressure on the quarterback a lot more.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It led them to create some more turnovers than they had in years past.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a stand-in to this past season, in the sense that...
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the offense put him in a ton of bad spots with the really horrific year the Gator's offense had.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: If there was still kind of a bend-dome break, the pressure wasn't there as much the turnover count wasn't there as much, but largely they were able to get offenses off the field and limit scoring.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of that had to do despite the fact that Caleb Banks wasn't around for most of the year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He missed nine games due to a foot injury that he aggravated at one point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But they still had a pretty solid core of defensive tackles who came in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe didn't create as much pressure, but did some good stuff against the run.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Ed rushers.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Without Caleb Banks, their production went down a little bit, but you still saw flashes out of George Gums, a Chicago native, a lad.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Tyrex, sat was able to get some stuff done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I really think the strength of the defense was with the linebacker unit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They had a good rotation of Miles Graham, Aaron Childs, and Jayden Robinson.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And those guys were all more future draft prospects, but they're going to be players worth keeping an eye on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They really did a lot of simulated pressure stuff, drop a lineman, to coverage blitz a linebacker, blitz a nickel corner, blitz a safety,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: uh, and it didn't even count as blitzing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were so descending for, but it was these different kind of looks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think Florida's defense is going to look a bit more traditional.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Moving forward, but they got some pieces they're getting back that they should be able to pick up where they left off.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Gomes obviously is in this NFL draft two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That one will be just because Ryan pulls tends to bring Chicago natives to Chicago and that's someone you could get later in the draft.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So for people listening keep an eye on that and maybe we'll chat a little at the end.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But Caleb Banks is going to be one of the first ones you talk about a PFF which starts for everyone because there's a ton of layoffs there right now, but it's one of my big my favorite big boards to look at personally just because you can look over the the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: total prospect rankings and then categorize it between school and position group however you want to they have him ranked as the 30 second prospect overall on their board right now but the first defensive lineman on this for them and so let's talk about that a little bit killer thanks I want to talk about the positive before we get to that injury because that's obviously what's going to be a big talk but what did what did you do good what did you guys like about him and how big was that drop off in certain areas when he wasn't there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and a class full of defensive tackles who aren't really fantastic past wrestlers, he offers the upside that I don't think anyone else does.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that really was evident in that stretch at the end of the 2024 season.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You look at his LSU and Ole Miss games back to back.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just a game record.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I want to say he had like 15 or 16 quarterback pressures in that stretch alone.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it makes a lot of sense, you know, he's
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  [SPEAKER_00]: just a freak kind of build, like 98th percentile height, 90th percentile weight, same deal with the wing span, arm length, like it is the type of defensive line when you build in a lab, and to pair with that, he ran a 5.0440 and maybe hearing over 5 and something that people love,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was 60th percentile among defensive tackles in general, much less a 6, 6, 330 pound guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You a way to just that, it's probably closer to the 80th.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Vertical jump was also incredibly impressive in broad jump, too.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's got all the athletic and physical things you look for in a true penetrating three-tech guy that can create pressure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's him getting the sacks, or more importantly, I would say him creating for the editors.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think is really capable of doing, which would be fascinating to kind of pair those two guys together, that's something that would work within this game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't finish plays enough.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's kind of the biggest deal.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't see a high tack account.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You really don't see a high tackle count, even.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But again, it comes down to what he's able to create for these other edge rushers.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If he weren't a part of that late 2024 Shratch, we're Florida 1-4 games and everyone was thinking, oh,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Billy Napier's job saved.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a chance Billy Napier's gone that off season, because Caleb Banks truly was kind of like the glue that held the front four even front seven together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you see, is there versatility there?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did he always play your majority play that free tech?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a majority three tech.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There was a little bit of time where they put them out even as like a five tech kind of a big defense event, but that was in certain packages, nothing to routine.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't really see him a ton of nose tackle.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm fascinated to see if that's something he'd be capable of doing, but run defense isn't as much as strength as it is past rushing.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he's a guy that on third downs.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You plug into that nose spot next to your varnor or whatever defense takes him if you have an established three tech already or someone that can get it done.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You create kind of a lightning package, but I think when all is set in done, you're projecting this guy to come in and be your three tech of the future.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it will be interesting and what's funny too is some of the draft profiles that I've seen player comics, which player comics are difficult to do when we know that, but schmard turners, one of the guys they play are content too, who the bears drafted last year, unfortunately he dealt with injuries this year, so we didn't get to see him with time, but you saw some flashes early, so right there that already kind of links to me that it's the type of player profile size.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: that Dennis Allen must be interested in if you draft someone who has you know kind of similar when it comes to measurables and things like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be kind of interesting to see some of that and what it ends up painting out to be for people who didn't know in 2024 though he did have four and a half sex seven tackles for loss that season.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's some capability there when it comes to being able to get to the quarterback.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The run defense will be a little bit of
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I can edit that out, but I do think the run defense side will be a little bit of a conversation point because the bears are one of the worst defensive fronts that gets the run last year, so I do think they may lean into some some area or some player that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They know can improve that immediately.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see what that looks like, but yeah, so I think Caleb being definitely I've seen several mocks where he goes to the bears.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what that needs.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the next guy really want to talk to is quarterback Devon Moore.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how high up on bears draft big board of corners.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just because obviously you have Jalen Johnson, Naphtyrick Stevenson, you have Kyler Gordon.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so you do kind of have your starting three.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Tyrex Stevenson's contract is done next year and so a lot of times these general managers and coaches are obviously you're building for the future, not just this year coming up.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you feel like you can grab somebody in the top that can replace one of those guys, especially there's been some injuries in that area.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to our corner back room.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, David Moore is another conversation, but Andrew is linked to him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His first three seasons, a lot of injuries, those first three seasons, but obviously everything kind of came together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He stayed healthy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He had his career year this last year at the Gators, but Chad a little bit about him outside zone type of guy, but specifically how and where he played on that Florida defense.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you're looking for, if you're the type of GM or coach that's looking for someone with some length that can go in, whether it's in a set passes or more to his strengths can test passes, you know, go up and make a plan on a ball that might be a bit out of your average corner is reach.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And his pro-day are going to overshadow the fact that I think he is pretty athletic for a corner of his size.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the story of his career.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't able to play any more than seven games, first three seasons due to shoulder injuries, concussion, back injuries.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He gets through a season healthy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: right after the season ends, he gets surgery on his groin.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he runs a 45 flat at the at the combine.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Somehow a prote, he ends up running a bit worse.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He was 459.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that if he were fully healthy, you'd see maybe more of a high four fours.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that'll work for a corner who's
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's capable of playing man, but yeah, I do think he's probably more of the off-man zone type of corner in a bit of a project.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, people are going to be concerned with the injury history.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: The shoulder, I think, is the one you have to pay more attention to because there were multiple injuries to it compared to the other ones were a bit more isolated.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: But teams, yeah, again, if you're looking for someone that can truly go and play the ball, Devon Morris, the type of corner you're going to want to find.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And because of his injuries, I could definitely see him slide into day three.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But for all we know there could be a team that maybe sees him in the third round is we don't know how much further he's going to fall and someone might go snatch him at that point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So for people who didn't watch a ton of Florida football last year, defensively explain what that secondary looked like.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How much did you use nickel corners, lot corners, that type of stuff, what did that look like?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: pretty routinely, if not most of the time, they had a slot corner.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And quite honestly, I think there are three corners between the two outs and the slot.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're traditionally, they were pretty good against the past.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there were some up and down from the nickel corners.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were a bit undersized when it came to coming crash in the run.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in coverage, they were all pretty sound and able to get the job done.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was more of the back end that had a bit of a leak.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like Bryce Thornton, he's the returning free safety, he's been productive, he didn't have a ton of help, it's strong safety, especially when they were going too deep looks.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Once the field, Jordan Kissel, was largely the guy back there, he's more of a box safety who was forced to play back a bit more in this game, it didn't really work, I think that caused some problems for some of the outside corners specifically.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's Florida, you know, they always get talented defensive backs.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Usually, uh, they get guys back there that can produce even if they're young.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we saw that as injuries piled up, uh, there was a game that Devin more missed.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even though you had a healthier, he missed one game for mining a clay and had some injuries.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dijon Johnson had injuries.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So even true freshman, uh, Javari Flowers, he was 17 or 18 at the time, reclassified and came and played nearly 300 defensive snaps.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was still able to make do.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was still able to get the job done.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that that one I just think will be fascinating.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to pay attention to injuries, obviously, and I think this is something that the bears have had issues with.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They draft a japan brisker, japan's a really good player, but it has dealt with injuries.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about a pilot board and the draft kind of Gordon, but he's at injury.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how much do they try and avoid that.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It will be interesting or how much do they lean into it and say,
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's okay.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And both of those guys obviously Caleb brings and more will be talking about that.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to move over to obviously Center Jake Slatter.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be another one.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a list of prospects that I'm going through when there's seven centers that I'm going to be talking about this next 20 days.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the Bears Center, Drew Dalman retired kind of out of the blue.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: This offseason, and it's really unfortunate because he was one of the best centers in the NFL last year.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're replacing some big shoes for it, and if they go,
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: They trade for Brad Barry, so we'll see maybe this is some patchwork if how high they go for a center.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jake Slatter, though, looks 35 years old.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's every time I see him.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like he was still in college.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: A familiar cop for him, people may know Zack Tom, obviously, who plays for the Packers.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But chat a little bit about Jake Slatter, Captain from Florida, that you talk about just kind of the role he played on that team in general, and that center position, but a little
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that he's been Florida's best offensive line in the past couple years.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was an all-American, 2024, a second team all-American this past year, a little bit of a down year, and that doesn't get as much recognition as a first teamer.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it was more a reflection of Florida's offensive line as a whole, kind of taking a setback, Austin Barber didn't have his best year, Damian George at right guard, made things a little bit more difficult for Jake Slotter at the center position, but he was still really clean
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a huge maller.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he'll probably play around 300 pounds, maybe even under as the season goes on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of maxed out at around, I want to say, 64-ish 305, so more of a zone guy, not so much a power scheme, gap scheme, type of center, but sound mechanics, never had any issues with snapping the ball, and really clean in past protection.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: His pressure count was always very limited over the seasons, and again, especially this year, like past protection.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: For all of DJ Lackway's issues with Florida this past season, I think he was hampered by his offensive line a bit too in past protection, but Jake Slotter really was never the guy that was creating problems for him.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Effective communicator.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: First game, there was injuries in 2023 to their former starter, Kingsley, a walk-in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He had to go and step in at Utah, which is a very forgettable game for Florida, and I'm sure for him too.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But he had no issue with it, even at the elevation
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He stepped right in and got the job done.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, honestly, he's got closer to three starting seasons under his belt where it was just consistently sound play.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that he'll probably slip into late day two, early day three because of his size and the step back this year, but someone's going to be getting a quality center.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: How much do you think that people and scouts and as we are talking about this way in the SEC and the schedule floor to hat and some of those defensive fronts that a Jake Slotter would have to go against on a daily, I mean weekly basis, I guess.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they would because, yeah, Florida, uh, weekend and we got faced a lot of really tough defenses.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even outside of the SEC, they took on Miami twice the past two years and that just beast of a defensive front and even in those games.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there were a couple plays that you're not going to win, uh, no matter who you are, quite frankly.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could be the best offensive lineman in college football and you're going to give some up against Miami.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: But slaughter I thought got the job done.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would hope that teams are looking again like at this line as a whole It was not a very strong offensive line.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a testament to Relaxer of of Florida's lack of progression in the weight room for the last couple years and that strength and conditioning program No better example and I pro day Damien George is 360 pounds and he got out bench pressed by Florida's long snapper
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: and again, that's the guy that's playing right next to Jake Slotter.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that hurts his resume.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that teens are able to isolate what Jake was able to do because I think that he's a much better player than maybe what this past season he would have gotten credit for based on what was going on around him.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, some of those produce not so good for a Florida this year.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw some of those numbers coming out.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to need two names.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to list off just give me a few quick things on there and then before I let you go, I'll have you maybe go through some that you think you know have higher hopes for think will transfer well.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tyrex sap, obviously, the other edge, one of the other edge directors, and then you mentioned earlier, George Gums, another edge rusher.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you talk about the bears, that's what they, I think, one of the biggest needs that they're going to be talking about his past Russian any form.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think some of that comes from the anterior, but having another guy across Montess what is going to be something talked about.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And not specifically, I think, somebody's act that needs to come in and start right now.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they may draft somebody that
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And two, three years is the guy and right now you kind of lean into a, you know, a diet and older guy and then an Austin Booker and other young guy.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But those two guys when it talks about the Tyreeks app and the George Gums, we know it's on those two guys.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it depends on if you're looking for a higher floor or a higher ceiling.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're looking for the higher floor, Tyreaks app is probably your guy.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's going to offer much as a past rusher at the next level.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had a good year as a past rusher again in 2024 when Caleb Banks was having the year he was having even George Gups was having the year he was having cam jacks and now with the panthers and no stack law for some past rushing upside and staff was able to really benefit.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: This past year he was viewed as their top ad rusher to best significant step back without the interior
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, really strong run defender, always was one bigger body to a bit of a tweener for an eddressure, but you know, I think at Florida's Pro Day he weighed in at 283.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not someone that really gets moved around in the run game.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he can come in and probably offer you those rotational early down snaps early in his career.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: George Gums probably offers you those rotational later down ones.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: six, four, two, 50, so a little lighter project, former walk-on, wide receiver at Northern Illinois, they moved him to Tita and he got a scholarship, they moved him again to defense event in one year, he puts up, I want to say, 4.5 sacks, ends up hitting the portal, because he realized, okay, I've got a future in this, I can maybe try and take my competition up a notch, lands with Florida after originally committing to Cincinnati.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And same kind of deal like box score may not be the biggest indicator is to what he was capable of.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I want to see he had a 12% pressure rate across all of his past rushing snaps, which is a really, really good number.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He goes to the combine has seven flat, uh, three cone second highest vertical jump of any pressure.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the last 15 years or something like that.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the athleticism in the drills you look for out of a past pressure was there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You pair that with
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  [SPEAKER_00]: only playing this position for three years and you think that the sky really could be the limit.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: As he bolks up a little more and learns more technique, he really could turn in to a position a player that can make an impact even on all three doubts.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you start a measure as a late as a rotational ad russia at the beginning of his career and see if the upside hits.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to see a link, if you want someone that's going to affect the passer, I think Gums is probably more likely your guy.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, before I let you go, are there any other guys in the draft this year, any gators that you may be say people should watch out for a little bit more, or even if it's a developmental, however you want to look at that.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'll go with two and one a little less exciting than the other.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Austin Barber, I think, same deal as Slotter, kind of dealt with a tough hand with some deficiencies in the offensive line, but he had some really solid play and was playing for three, four years on the offensive line at left tackle and right tackle.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: better run blocker i think the past protector at this point in this career but could develop i think the issue he's got around like 33 and a half inch arms there's the question of do you move him to guard florida never tried that they liked him at tackle they didn't have any other options at tackle whereas they had options at guard
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: At least earlier in his career.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could see a team moving him to guard and him having a pretty successful career there.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Another one is the less exciting one, maybe kicker trace Mac.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got a really powerful leg.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he set the record for 50 plus yard field goals by a Florida kicker throughout their career.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple of uncharacteristic misses at the beginning of this past season, but he really cleaned it up and went the rest of the way.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned him because in recent years we've seen it, we saw it in the year where Cam Little was drafted in Jacksonville.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're starting to come off the board.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're starting to be drafted, especially with the kickoff rules that have changed.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Trace Mac, you know, there's still might be some injury or some inaccuracy that he's going to have to work on, but he's got the leg.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got the leg that can hit it from 60, and that's really what teams are drafting kickers
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: at this point.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I struggle only has seven picks.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if they'd lean into that, but I look like Carlos Santos is the man and when he's like one of the best when it comes to kicking in bad weather in Chicago, like he makes, he's made some field goals this last couple of seasons in when 20 miles per hour blowing.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like okay, but if it's beyond like 46, it's a little sketchy.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now there's guys making easy 50, 55 into your point 60 now.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: it'd be interesting to see if they, you know, look that way a little bit, but somebody will.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think now we live in this day and age where that kicker, being able to make those 55 pluses has become really important.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you have a concert to go to, so have fun.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you again for taking your time and chatting with me.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate it, Tara.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, bye-bye.