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No brakes on the (female) gripe train | HBR Talk 392 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three ninety two, No
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  Speaker 1: breaks on the Female Gripe Train. I'm your host, Hannah Wallen,
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  Speaker 1: here with nonsense annihilator Laren Brooks, the personification of perceptivity,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Stevenson, Hello, Richard the lion Hearted, and the doge
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  Speaker 1: in Charge, Brand Altinez. Hello to all of you, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully everybody's not losing their minds right now with
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  Speaker 1: all the shit that's going on. But we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about all the shit that's going on. We're
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  Speaker 1: just going to talk about this in sell article for now.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you I'm not avoiding aaran. I'm watching to
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  Speaker 1: see what's going to happen. I already said my piece
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  Speaker 1: about it two days ago in HBr News, and now
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a wait and see what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen next because the the legal maneuverings in the changes
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  Speaker 1: that are going to be taking place there, sometime we'll
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  Speaker 1: find out.
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  Speaker 2: At some point we'll find out that yes, women are
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  Speaker 2: now allowed to dress thiss halls, but there is still
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  Speaker 2: some stuff happening to Iranian men.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope that's not the only reason why we
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  Speaker 1: I know that's not the only reason why we went
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  Speaker 1: in there, but in any case, there are right now
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  Speaker 1: the pot is brewing and it's too soon to taste it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just leave it at that. The stew
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  Speaker 1: is brewing and it's too soon to taste it. So
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  Speaker 1: so with that out of the way, we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: what we actually are getting into today. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I actually mentioned the doche in charge now, because
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  Speaker 1: it's been a minute since then and I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: what I said.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone knows the Mexican is in charge.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: We like to tell ourselves that that Allison is in charge,
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  Speaker 2: but it's I know he's not a Mexican.
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  Speaker 1: Because Karen calls him a shipwrecked Mexican and think that's
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  Speaker 1: the term. Oh my gosh. But I still need him
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  Speaker 1: to do the things that I have yet to actually
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  Speaker 1: even study how to do. And I promise you not
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  Speaker 1: being a lazy shit. I am working eighty hours a week,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't have time to sit and read. Every
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  Speaker 1: so often, I have time to tweet something that I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to do a lot of research in order
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  Speaker 1: to tweet it. And aside from that, you guys probably
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard from me very much. Sorry about that, but
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  Speaker 1: things are changing, and hopefully in the next few months
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  Speaker 1: I will not be working eighty hours a week, right
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  Speaker 1: there we go. That a change, I hope, so, I hope. So,
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  Speaker 1: although I will say the money from the overtime is
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And so now we are spending more money in it.
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  Speaker 1: But that is as it is. In the meantime, we
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  Speaker 1: some true absolute code of the cult of the bee,
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  Speaker 1: we started talking and we started with this article or
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  Speaker 1: this paragraph about MiG too, and I find it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I find interesting about this before we
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  Speaker 1: actually start reading again, is how defensive and how aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: In some ways, women in general, not just feminists, but
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  Speaker 1: women in general, get toward the idea of men simply
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  Speaker 1: not pursuing closeness with women of any kind, the men
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  Speaker 1: not trusting women, men not making their lives all about women.
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  Speaker 1: Like as soon as a man like, they'll they'll tell
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  Speaker 1: us they want men to leave women alone, stop bothering women,
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  Speaker 1: stop being pests toward women. And uh, if you show
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  Speaker 1: an interest in women, that makes you a sex pest, right,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're you're accused of that. But then at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, if you don't, and you tell people that
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  Speaker 1: you don't in any way, shape or form, you posted
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  Speaker 1: in a maketele forum, Uh, you call yourself a make
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  Speaker 1: tee man going his own way, men going their own way.
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  Speaker 1: If you say anything to that degree at all, then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're hateful and dangerous and scary,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you need to be corralled, you know, Laura
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  Speaker 1: Laura Bates said in her book men who hate women
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  Speaker 1: because of course, not doing exactly what women say, doing
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  Speaker 1: exactly what women have asked is hateful toward women.
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  Speaker 2: This is the important difference between an in cel and
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  Speaker 2: a magtaile. A feminist will never accuse an inceel of
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  Speaker 2: being a magtail, but they will accuse every magtail of
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  Speaker 2: being an in cell. Now, I'm sure some of you
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  Speaker 2: can already figure out why that is and what that means,
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  Speaker 2: but it's important to explain to those who don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: An in cell is a derogatory term invented by feminists.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, it was invented by feminists. It's unfortunate that
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  Speaker 2: so many men have adopted that term, but it was
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  Speaker 2: invented by feminists around the time of Elliott Roger and
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  Speaker 2: I'm hope I don't get this whole stream taken down,
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  Speaker 2: but just mentioning its name. But ever since that happened, it.
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  Speaker 4: Was it was, it was effected. It was effected before that,
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  Speaker 4: so in the nineties, But it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't invented by the men who are tarred with
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  Speaker 2: that phrase. It was invented by.
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  Speaker 3: Go on.
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  Speaker 4: It was called info. Then it got turned into in
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  Speaker 4: cell in the late nineties early thousands. So the words
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  Speaker 4: the word, the word fault over time.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, the whole idea is go on.
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  Speaker 3: So the whole concept of it.
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  Speaker 4: So a woman came up the word info after she
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  Speaker 4: wanted to find a partner. She then abandoned the group
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  Speaker 4: infil because she found a partner, and then the word
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  Speaker 4: got turned into what it got turnted by feminist.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an in cell is. An in cel is
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  Speaker 2: a man who worships women but is tragically unable to
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  Speaker 2: touch them. That's basically what it means. And a megtail
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  Speaker 2: is a man who does not worship women and has
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  Speaker 2: no interest in touching them. He has found other things
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  Speaker 2: in life. He has found things in life higher than
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  Speaker 2: touching a woman. And feminists can't stand this. Women, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm entrenched in the modern feminist paradigm, cannot stand this.
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  Speaker 2: They cannot even countenance the idea of a man who
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  Speaker 2: is simply not interested in women because they can find
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  Speaker 2: higher things to do. And this is not a modern phenomenon.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the Right Brothers were Mike tous Nicola
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  Speaker 2: Tesla was a make tow all manner of men who
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  Speaker 2: changed the future for the better. Men who advanced human
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  Speaker 2: flourishment throughout history were technically make tous because they weren't
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  Speaker 2: interested in finding wives. They were not interested in chasing
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  Speaker 2: skirt or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: There's good reason for that too. There are two ways,
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  Speaker 1: two ways only that involvement with a woman can go.
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  Speaker 1: For a man who has any kind of goals that
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  Speaker 1: anyone else might call lofty until he achieved them and
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  Speaker 1: then suddenly he's brilliant. And one way is she can
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  Speaker 1: be a supportive wife, a person who does everything that
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  Speaker 1: she can to h fulfill any request that he makes
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  Speaker 1: of her for assistance or support, even if it's just
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  Speaker 1: keep my house while I do this thing that everyone
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  Speaker 1: else says is crazy. But if I succeed, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to you know, launch humanity forward in this area that
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  Speaker 1: I'm working in for you know, through hundreds of years.
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  Speaker 1: And that's one way, right. The other way is by
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  Speaker 1: being unsupportive she can hold him back. I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of men that have achieved greatness while simultaneously avoiding
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  Speaker 1: contact with women, or at least declining to become intimate
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  Speaker 1: partners with a woman, feared that second path with good reason.
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  Speaker 1: Many women prefer to take that path because they are narcissistic,
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  Speaker 1: and they won't be supportive of him because it's not
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  Speaker 1: She won't see that it's in her interest. The ride
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  Speaker 1: or die woman who will go through poverty and ridicule
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  Speaker 1: in the hopes that the thing her man is working
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  Speaker 1: on pans out, and the trust that he knows what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing and he's right. That's a rare woman. So
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  Speaker 1: it's entirely fair for men who are chasing greatness in
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  Speaker 1: some way or another, whether it's for their own sake
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  Speaker 1: or for humanity's sake, it's entirely fair for them to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, without a woman, I'm going to do this
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  Speaker 1: without a woman. And yeah, I know there was more, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I basically got there. Feminists dream
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  Speaker 2: of an entire pops of men who worship women but
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  Speaker 2: are unable to get them. They want to believe that
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  Speaker 2: the entire male populace is in cells, that they desperately
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  Speaker 2: want to receive the holy touch of women, but they
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  Speaker 2: cannot until they do everything that women want them to do.
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  Speaker 2: And that and that's why Ross Kemp many of you
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  Speaker 2: outside the outside the UK will not know who Ross
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  Speaker 2: Kemp is. But Ross Kemp did a documentary. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's still in the stages of editing that documentary about
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  Speaker 2: in Cells because it's considered such an emergency to examine that.
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  Speaker 3: Still it came.
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  Speaker 4: It came out Monday some investigation. Yeah, it came out Monday.
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  Speaker 4: It's on the Crime Seen Investigation channel in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Well and and and and and Ross's camp
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  Speaker 2: has has come to a realization. You may have seen
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  Speaker 2: the clip that's been going around on Twitter, but he
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  Speaker 2: was into interviewing this guy and he asked him how
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  Speaker 2: many in cel killers have existed in the world, and
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  Speaker 2: it was it's between five and twelve or whatever. It is, like,
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  Speaker 2: it's negligibly tiny. Hardly anyone has has committed any mass
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  Speaker 2: murderers along these supposedly ideological lines. And I'm still like, hmmm,
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  Speaker 2: did I mean even Elliott Rodger didn't really do it
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  Speaker 2: over the ideological lines of this in cel phenomenon.
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  Speaker 3: He hated They labeled him on m R at first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. They tried a M A p U A.
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  Speaker 1: He hated us too, and he.
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  Speaker 2: Killed and he killed more men than women.
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  Speaker 3: He looked, He killed more Asian men.
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  Speaker 2: He lured several of his student friends to his to
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  Speaker 2: his student residents and then stabbed them to death. And
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  Speaker 2: only then did he he go out and shoot up
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  Speaker 2: a sorority and in which he ended up killing I
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  Speaker 2: think three women and one man. He killed more men
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  Speaker 2: than women, and yet to this day, the Wikipedia article
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  Speaker 2: on him will call him a a femicidal something or other,
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  Speaker 2: like he went he did this because he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: kill women, and yet somehow he killed more men than women.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a consistent theme that even when men
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  Speaker 2: ostensibly hate women, they will still kill more men than women.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's war in a nutshell, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, not to get into a long discussion
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  Speaker 1: about this, but femicide isn't a real term by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Feminists made it up for a specific reason, and we
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  Speaker 1: should know and we shouldn't use it for any reason,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, we should call them out on it
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  Speaker 1: every time they use it, because the specific reason they
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  Speaker 1: made it up homicide. It refers to a homo sapien.
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  Speaker 1: The killing of a homo sapien. Homo sapien is not
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  Speaker 1: just a man. It's a man or a woman or
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  Speaker 1: a child. It's somebody who is nine months old or
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine years old. Somebody who is nine minutes old
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  Speaker 1: is homo sapien. And the only people that our laws
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  Speaker 1: do not count under the term homicide are those that
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  Speaker 1: have not yet been born, right, and that that might change.
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  Speaker 1: They made up a term for when a murder victim
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  Speaker 1: is an infant, so after you've been born, like nine
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  Speaker 1: seconds after you've been born, if you're murdered, if homicide
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  Speaker 1: is committed against you, they will call it infanticide in
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  Speaker 1: some places, because it is considered to be a worse
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  Speaker 1: crime to murder a helpless infant than an individual who
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  Speaker 1: might be able to fight back. And it's fair to
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  Speaker 1: say that it is particularly brutal and callous and heinous
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  Speaker 1: to look at a cute little baby, a cute little
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  Speaker 1: infant and decide I need to kill that. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, a human life is a human life,
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  Speaker 1: and taking a human life is always a horrible thing
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  Speaker 1: to do, and there should be very limited circumstances under
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  Speaker 1: which we do not consider the person a horrible, evil
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  Speaker 1: person for doing it. And unfortunately, what feminists have done
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  Speaker 1: there is attempt to make it seem like it is
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  Speaker 1: more evil and more deserving of repercussions, and the victim
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  Speaker 1: is more deserving of justice if that individual is female,
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  Speaker 1: or in other words, if a man is a homicide victim.
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  Speaker 1: Feminists don't think that homicide victim deserves the same sympathy
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  Speaker 1: and compassion and outrage that we would exhibit if the
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  Speaker 1: victim was a woman, as in my opinion, we should
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  Speaker 1: be calling that out every single time we see that term,
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  Speaker 1: because it is not just sexist, it is gender sidle.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, feminists are arguing that it's okay to
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  Speaker 1: kill men. It's okay to kill as long as the
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  Speaker 1: person you're killing is not a woman, and that's bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: We should be trying to minimize violence in our modern society.
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  Speaker 1: Our civilization hasn't grown up yet, and instead feminists are
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  Speaker 1: arguing over when it's okay. We should We should not
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  Speaker 1: be arguing over when it's okay. We should be arguing
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  Speaker 1: that it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Incidentally, the word androcide is not in common parlance, and well,
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  Speaker 2: if it was, we would find ourselves describing almost every war, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as an andracide, and that includes the most recent one,
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  Speaker 2: the fucking Iranian War. Six America have been killed, and
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  Speaker 2: they've they're all men.
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  Speaker 1: Unsurprisingly, all the leaders were targeted were men because under
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  Speaker 1: their regime, only men could be in leadership positions.
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  Speaker 2: Like, no one goes into a war deciding to kill
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  Speaker 2: mainly women. Yep, they literally always go into a war
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  Speaker 2: deciding to kill mostly men. I mean, it's written in
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  Speaker 2: all of our religious texts.
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  Speaker 1: Here is that that arguing, you know, what's worse killing
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  Speaker 1: killing a male or female human being is wrong. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's evil to kill. It is it is
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  Speaker 1: evil to kill. And the only times that it is
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  Speaker 1: not intentionally evil is when it's an accident that you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't foresee and take measures to avoid, or when you're
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  Speaker 1: defending against an attempt at killing you. That's it. Like
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  Speaker 1: you don't, I don't even like the concept of mercy killings.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to it's hard to justify that,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, I know some people do. But the
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  Speaker 1: the point is that is overt missonry. That the word
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  Speaker 1: femicide is overt missondry, and it is gendercidle against men,
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  Speaker 1: and it exists only to justify treating male victims of homicide,
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  Speaker 1: any type of homicide, as less deserving of compassion and
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  Speaker 1: justice than female victims, when we should not be allowing that.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't allow it if we started using the term
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  Speaker 1: and recide homicide an andracide, Well, it's worse when you
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  Speaker 1: kill a man. There might even be arguments on each
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  Speaker 1: side for why it's worse when you kill one sex
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  Speaker 1: or the other. There might even be people that'll come
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  Speaker 1: up with justifications why they think it's worse. They're all bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Every justification you can come up with.
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  Speaker 3: Is bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Every human life is valuable, every single one, and we
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  Speaker 1: should be avoiding distinctions like, well, this person that was
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  Speaker 1: killed was female, therefore it's a big deal, or this
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  Speaker 1: person that was killed was insert utilitarian reason for why
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  Speaker 1: we think a man might be valuable here, and therefore
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  Speaker 1: it's a bigger deal than say, if an in cell
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  Speaker 1: was sacrificed. That they're all human, they're all valuable, and
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  Speaker 1: it is all important to put a stop to it
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  Speaker 1: is all a big deal. Every human death before that
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  Speaker 1: person's time is a loss and a tragedy, even when
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  Speaker 1: we've had to execute a human being for committing a
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  Speaker 1: heinous crime, because we lost that person the moment they
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  Speaker 1: went down that path and nobody stepped up to help
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  Speaker 1: them get back on a better path, or anybody that
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  Speaker 1: tried failed. Every human death before their time is a tragedy,
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  Speaker 1: is a failure on the part of humanity, and the
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  Speaker 1: thing we should be striving for is to get to
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  Speaker 1: a point where we forget all of the words for
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  Speaker 1: homicide because one hasn't happened in so long we haven't
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  Speaker 1: had to talk about it. That's what we should be
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  Speaker 1: trying to do, not arguing over who's more important to preserve,
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  Speaker 1: but regarding the migtal thing. What I wanted to point
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  Speaker 1: out and bring that up is similar right. To bring
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  Speaker 1: this back full circle, Feminists are very offended that there
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  Speaker 1: are men who do not make women the most important
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  Speaker 1: thing in their lives, who don't pursue women, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: their main reason for existing to get married and start
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  Speaker 1: a family, who don't make mentoring women their primary function
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: at work, who don't interact with women anymore than they
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: have to. Feminists get very offended. Women in general get
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: offended about this right. They get very upset. So imagine
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: for a minute if something like eighty percent of the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: world male population decided that fifty percent of the world
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: female population and was beneath their notice and shouldn't even
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: draw their attention for fear of being castigated for having
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the audacity to do so. Imagine exactly how offended women
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: would be if half of the female population was unable
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to find a partner because eighty percent of the male
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: population was arguing over the supermodels of the female population,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and the best actresses and musicians and the most popular
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: women in the world, the thing that makes women consider
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: themselves alphas, the queen bees of the world, and the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: wealthiest women in the world. You think that the cries
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: of misogyny would drown out all other sounds upon the earth,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: because I do.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: But they call you a they call you a PDF.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they would call you that, the PDF, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: dreaded PDF file, depending on you know, like especially if
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: men were all searching for women in their twenties, which
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: is funny because when women do it they call it
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: romance tourism, right, And and women my age who are
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: grandmothers and you know, working as in managemental management in
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: some stupid company somewhere. They will go to foreign nations
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and exploit the prostitution system there for men of military age,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: of like entry age into the military, men who haven't
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: been the aults for very long, or men you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: young younger men like they would consider men, but teenagers
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that that would still be underage.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: A lot of people went to the UK, go to
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: like the Caribbean and of a place to do that
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: before that, the before dementia hit. Yeah, Mom used to
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: do Mom used to do that a lot before the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: dementia hit. So because she went back and forth to
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Jamaica to see someone before the dementia hit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of women do that. They'll go to nations
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that are maybe at the higher end of third world
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: or in the nations that can be considered second world.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: They'll go to nations that are at the lower end
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of first world in terms of economics, or nations that
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: depend heavily on tourism for like their they're staying afloat
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and on you know, assistance from other countries when there's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a disaster because they never have enough, you know, to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to cover it themselves. And and they'll go and they
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: will target there. We've featured articles about this in the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: past on HBr Talk. In fact, they'll target underage guys.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They'll target guys that are like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. In
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the United States, I think the lowest age of consent
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: in any state in the United States is sixteen. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that's the age it's traditionally it's the age when you
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: used to be able to get your driver's license, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you used to be When I was in school, you
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: take Driver's ED. You get take a driver's test until
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you pass, and there were limitations on how often you
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: could take it, but and that that would make you
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: take time to study and practice if you were unable
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to pass the driver's test the first time around. But
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in any case, and then it was pretty common by
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the way, like I took calculus, and I did find
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: in calculus, but the the spatial relations part of the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: driver's test, I thought I could practice in one car
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and then take the test in a different one, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it didn't work, and so I failed that the first
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: time around. I hit the cones. But in any case,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you could get that. You could do that at the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: age of sixteen and then drive without an adult in
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the car. You didn't have to have an adult in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the car. Today you can start learning to drive with
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: an adult in the car, I think at the age
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of fifteen, but I think you have to have an
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: adult in the car until the age of eighteen. My
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, because my daughters lived with
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: their biological mom and their stepfather when they when they
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: went through all that, my son chose to not drive
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: until he was older because we lived in an area
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: where you could walk everywhere and just get what you
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: wanted by walking to the store and so on, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: didn't see any point in taking the risk and so,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: which I thought was a pretty mature decision, and it
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: also saved us a lot on insurance. But in any case,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that was that was the you know, the youngest age
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that I've seen in any state. There was a state
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: for a while, I want to say Kentucky, but I'm
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: not sure that allowed fifteen year olds to consent. But
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I think in I think in most states it's sixteen.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I think my battery might be dying in my That's
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: gonna drive me nuts. I just heard my smoke alarm chirp.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: So just so you guys know, I can't you.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Show you're not African American.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: No, I definitely hear it. I know it. That is
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the most annoying sound in the world. And just this
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: is totally off topic, but where at one time where
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I work, it's the time of year when it does
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: this to me. And and the worst part is it's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: it's the type that you have to have somebody come
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in and change the battery, because if you try to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: change the battery, it sets off the fire alarm, so
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I can't do anything about it. I couldn't even pause
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the show and do anything about it. So if you
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: hear it, if it chirps again, just be aware. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: can hear that. I have noise canceling headphones on and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I can still hear that. But and I had the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: same problem at one of the one of the homes
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I work at, and I work on the night shift,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: so if it starts in the middle of the night,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: that you can't call maintenance and have them come in
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: on an emergency and change that. But so so you
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: got like eight hours of that thing going off every
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds, and by the end of the shift, my
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: hair's on the floor. I just cannot stand noises like that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But in any case, like completely derailed me that sound.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason I'm telling you this is because
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I immediately forgot what I was talking about when I heard
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: that beep.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: And but it's going to be the article.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's time to get into the article.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But but and now everybody's wondering why the fuck it
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: took fifty years for the medical community to diagnose me
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: as autistic. That kind of noise, like just can completely
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I completely lose everything. I hate loud beeps and loud whistling, squeech,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: screeching noises, sirens, all that kind of stuff, which is
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: funny because I actually love ambulances and fire trucks and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I just don't like the noises they make.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, we were talking about the sexu tourism and the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: age and consent. So in the US, it is perfectly
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: normal for an adult to be considered to have something
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: profoundly wrong with them if they want to be with
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: somebody significantly younger than them, that is under the age
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of eighteen. Like, if you see a nineteen year old
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and a seventeen year old together, that's pretty normal, right,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: But if you see a thirty nine year old and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a seventeen year old, people are going to point and talk,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and in my opinion, they should. Seventeen isn't very very
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: mature in all honesty, but women expect it to be tolerated.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: If you see a thirty nine year old and a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: twenty one year old where the thirty nine year old
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is female and twenty one year old is male, on
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the other hand, they will call you a pedo. Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: unless it's their son.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: They will call you a pedo if you, as a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: thirty nine year old are with a thirty or a
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: twenty one year old woman, And that's that's really it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: not just sexist, it's a Again, it's very hateful either
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: either we're adults when we're adults or or not. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you know that to that end, I would say it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: shouldn't matter male or female. You know, anybody that is
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: looking for somebody that's a teenager when they're that old
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: has some questions to answer. And it's not because necessarily
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: it's always it should always be considered predatory. But if
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that individual isn't predatory, they're profoundly immature and should be
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: not trusted for that reason. Personally, when I was that age,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think thirty nine was a little bit ago.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I really didn't even like the idea of going below
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: thirty like I would have. I had to have somebody
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: convinced me that it was safe and okay to talk,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, even just about just about stuff, not like
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: actually having a romantic relationship, because by that time that
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't an interest. But yeah, it's just like you know, yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: at twenty five, year old enough to for me to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: be blunt and talking about the risks of dealing with
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: this circumstance you're in. But you still look like a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: kid to me. And now my youngest is older than that,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: So now like, if you're under thirty, you really do
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: look like a kid to me. My youngest isn't over thirty,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: but he's the same age I was when I gave
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: birth to him, and my two older kids are over thirty.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And it's just it looks very different from this angle
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: than it did when I was that age. And if
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you get to my age, and it does, and there
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you haven't done something in terms of your personal growth
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that you should have done by this point. That's at
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the very least, you haven't done something that you should
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: have done by this point.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So, but any you may remember when you were eight
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: years old, ten year olds looked like adults when you
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: look back on your memory of being in school, like
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the kids who are two years older than you looked
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: like Even the residual memories you have of the kids
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: who are two years older than you, they look like adults.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: The memory you have of them were off. They were
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: basically adults, even though in reality they were basically children.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: And it makes sense because when you're a child, like
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a year is a tenth of your life, yep. But
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: when you're fifty, a year is is a fiftieth of
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: your life, and and so it grows like that. The
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: older you get, the less important these these age differences.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Ah, well, there's there's other things too. When my generation
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: was ten years old, it was normal for me to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: be allowed to babysit my eight year old brother for
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of hours when my parents were out of
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the house. Dad might be teaching and mom might be
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: at the store, and and we would know where mom was,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: We would know where Dad was. We had our emergency
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: phone numbers. We knew which neighbors to go go call
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: for help if there was a problem. We knew what
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to do if the house caught fire, right and and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: how to get out and be safe, and everything we knew,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: we what we weren't allowed to touch. My parents could
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: keep a shotgun in the closet that we knew was
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: in there, not under lock and key, and know that
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: we would not touch it. Like and won't tell the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: story of the fart in the bedroom. But we went
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: looking for a We searched their room one time for
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: something else that doesn't doesn't exist, and you know, found
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: it and didn't touch it because we knew, you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: they would they would kick our asses if if we
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: if we touched it. We knew we weren't allowed to
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: touch that, right. But by the time millennial generation was
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: ten years old, at least half of that stuff was
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: no longer true. It was either you had to have
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a gun under lock and key, right, or you you
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: couldn't leave two kids that age. Yeah, that was definitely
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a fucking ah. I just heard it again. I don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: know it's it's it's upstairs, so I don't know if
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you guys can hear it, but it's gonna drive me nuts.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: At least it's not every dingy.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It was overshadowed by a discord notification noise.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see, I'm not getting discord notifications noises because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I turned all of those off. I couldn't use discord
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: if it was making those noises at me all the time.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, millennial ten year olds, very few of them
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: ever babysat a younger sibling at that age. It was
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: a few years later when they might be allowed to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: be home alone for you know, half an hour with
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a younger sibling. By the time I was twelve, I
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: made my first I cooked my first full meal for
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the whole family at the age of twelve. Like I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: had been learning, I asked Mom for a easy bake
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: oven if they I don't know they still make those,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: but essentially it's cooking with a light bulb. It's literally
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: cooking with a light bulb in a box. And I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: asked for one, and Mom's like, uh, uh no, you
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you don't. You don't need that. We're going to learn
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to use the real oven.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: When I was like nine or ten years old, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: uh because one of my friends had one, and uh.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: By by twelve, I cooked a pot roast, you know,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: with with potatoes and carrots and broth and all the amenities.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And then also some biscuits, so I knew how to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: make biscuits. Like we had all the different you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: we had sides, we had a dessert that I made
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and and everything. And I still remember that because my uh.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: We sat down at the table and started dinner and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Dad complimented Mom on the meal, which he did almost
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: every single time in immediately and did every single time
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: at some point in the meal, but sat down first
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: bite complimented it, and Mom's like, well, Hannah cooked it,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, he said, oh, you did a good
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: job on the roadt So she goes, he cooked the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: whole meal. Here she cooked the whole meal. And that
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: was That was one of my proudest moments as a kid.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: But today, with with gen Z and jen Alpha, a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: lot of them were not even allowed near the stove
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: or the oven until they were in their teenage years
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: because it's hot and it can burn you. And so
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we've gotten well more protective generationally. By the time my
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: mom was fourteen, she was actually working in a she's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: working in a hospital for disabled kids as they cook,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and I did a lot of other things because it
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: was just starting up at that point. It was a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: new thing in you know, I don't I don't think
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I had a paying job until I was fifteen, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't work full time until I was eighteen, so
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: things are very different, right. I did have a paying job.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I had a paying job at eleven, but I was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: working for my parents. A lot of the boys in
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I had paper routes at the age of ten,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: not very many kids today even can do that, because
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you'd have to have mom or dad drive you around.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So it's not just it's not just weird because of
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the age difference. It's also weird because of the general
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: generational difference in expectations of personal accountability for one's own
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: safety versus the older generation being protective of the younger generation.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I think that makes a big difference to most mature
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: adults when they're around people that are the age of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: their younger siblings or their children, right that you're a
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: little more protective. But regarding this, the point I wanted
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to make with the original long Talk was the fact
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that women's attitude. If men had the same attitude toward
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: women that women have toward men, that creates the Inceell
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: phenomenon and the Migtau phenomenon. Women would play victim of that.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: They would scream from the hills misogyny. They would scream
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: from the hills patriarchy. We'd be hearing that men everywhere,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: all men hate women, and that women are the most oppressed.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And they basically say the same things they say now, uh,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: but louder, longer, and more screechy. More likely than not.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't just complain about it, they'd ban it. Like
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I said, Like I said in my last video, if
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: women had to dress like penguins all the fucking time,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: they screamed, this is the handmaid's tail and turn it
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: into a crime.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, if they had dressed like men, If women had
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to dress the way men have to dress all the time,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to like women like me wearing
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: cargo pants because pockets, not because I have to wear
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: this for work, you know which for so it's a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: privilege basically that I can dress in some way like
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a man. I don't have to wear a dress. I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: don't have the strict limitations that a man has. Women
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: would never put up with that. But when men take
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: measures to protect themselves or join a forum and talk
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: about how hard it is to live with being so
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: isolated or rejected or having a low self esteem or
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: anything like that, women attack that as well. They're not
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: even allowed to have the same level of complaints that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: women would have over being in their situation. Before we
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: go on, we got three super chows. I'm going to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: read because I don't want them to pile up, and
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: they're already starting to pile up. One of them is
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: from yesterday, and I believe it is a response to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the show that was playing yesterday. Zapier gave us five
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: dollars and said, the UK more like the you gay,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: he he he, some honey money for the badgers. I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: always like a good pun, but there we go. Art
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Force gave us fifty dollars. Thank you, Art Force and
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: said HBr talk three ninety two, badgering the honey. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Meredith g gave us five dollars and said, HBr talk
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: three ninety two, honey of the badgers. Why is it
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the chirps always happen at the most inconvenient times, like
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: three am in the morning, which it's it's because you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: know it's always inconvenient. It is always inconvenient for something
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to be making an annoying noise. And I know that
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: they make that noise deliberately annoying so that you won't
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: ignore it and fail to protect your house from a fire.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But it's still annoying.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: To be fair, To be fair, I am not black,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: and I went ahead and put up with that shit
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: for like a couple of days once. In my defense,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I was constantly fucked up on drugs at the time,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: and that's why I was able to ignore it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: There we go, There we go. So we had just
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: read that paragraph in the bit about Aristoteles and and so,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and we will go on. Alex goes on to say, besides,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of the men weren't in it for the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: long haul. The real conviction and self esteem needed to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: maintain a strike was lacking. Most men view themselves as
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: subhuman as well. A lot of men are self self loathing.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: And when I read that, the first thing I thought was, well,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: who taught them to think of themselves that way?
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: And then?
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And the truth is it's both gender of parent. What
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: do you what do you start hearing when you've got
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: a sister? Uh, From the time you're a little kid,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and every place you go, everything you do, anytime, there's
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a thing being handed out or a benefit to be had.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Every I who grows up, at least in Western society,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: here's ladies first, Like, you know, sorry, she's she's five,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: she's not old enough to be a lady. Ladies first,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: let her go sit ride in the front seat of
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the car. Ladies first, not a five year old, but well,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: back when I was a kid, we could, but uh,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you know, give her the cookie first. Ladies first, there's
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: a fire. Drill ladies first, don't even but uh yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're so thick because they're told they're worthless.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pick up your chocolate milk first.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: You have to give up your ch You have to
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: give up your chocolate milk first for the lady.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: In in elementary school, when we used to get milk
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: in the classroom, that was that was a thing. If
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: they didn't have enough chocolate milk. It was always the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: boys that were getting asked, will you drink white milk
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: today instead? When it's I always said milk.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I always said no, Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Well that's fair, that's fair.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And you know, for me as a kid, I noticed
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that simply because I always thought, well, why aren't they
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: asking me, I'll drink it. It's just milk. I was
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that kid that my parents had to have enough milk
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: for me to drink about a gallon a day from
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the time I was a little kid till I moved
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: out to go to college. Because that was probably my
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: favorite thing in the whole world to drink. I didn't
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: have to put anything in it. It was good as it was,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: but but yeah, the boys, the boys were put in
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: that position. And even even I've noticed it in daily
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: life at other times. Right last time, I was on
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: an airplane where they started asking if anybody would be
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: volunteering to bump to another flight, and they'll they'll give
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: you a credit for a certain amount, and you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they're looking around to see if anybody will take the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: money and they don't have to make somebody get off
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the plane. And you know, before I realized what they
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: were talking about, she she starts looking and I can
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: see her making eye contact with men on the plane, like,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you know, would you do it? Would you do it?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And then before anybody really got a chance to volunteer,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: like she didn't even wait long enough for people to process, Oh,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars would be nice, I will bump to
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: a later flight. Sure, she just started, you know, all right,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: well you are the passengers that have to get off
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: if nobody volunteers, and and started taking people off and uh,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and that was that, Like she took three people and
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it was about that time that you know, the one
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: of the guys was like, oh, go I'll go. But
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you know, because he wanted the seven hundred dollars, but
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it was by that time she already had them count
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: going and it was too late. But she really did
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: start looking at you know, the men looked right over
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: my head, at the guy behind me in fact, and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of leaned around, and you know, anybody, anybody,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: as if women don't can't volunteer for stuff like that.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: And if i'd have, if i'd have had a minute
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to think about it, that would have been a good,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: good way to get seven hundred bucks. But in any case,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: they do that if there's a disaster and somebody has
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: to risk their lives to get somebody out of a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: bad situation. The people that are first sent in if
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: they haven't volunteered, in which some usually do, are men.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: And men are so humble about the value of their
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: lives that you can find videos on YouTube of them
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: risking their lives to rescue animals from floodwaters, pets from floodwaters.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: A guy will risk his life to preserve the life
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: of a dog or a cat that isn't even his pet.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Guys will risk their lives on the highway where there's
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: traffic all around them and some animal is pinned up
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: against the up against the median, like the divider, because
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the traffic is moving too fast and they're afraid to move.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And I've seen men risk their lives, you know, just
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: to make someone comfortable saving themselves where you know, if
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you if I can do it, you can do it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: First time I saw a guy be so humble about
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the value of his life that he risked it when
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: that was my age, that he risked it over and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: over again. Was a young man in my high school
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: that there was a fire in his neighborhood and he
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: rescued like five kids from a burning house where he
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: just went inside the inside the house with the flames
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: all around him, over and over again and pulled them
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: all out. And he was lucky. Nothing bad happened to him,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: like he had He got sick from smoke inhalation, but
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: not like go to the hospital and be admitted sick.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: It bothered him for a while, but there were parts
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: of that house that collapsed, so it could have been
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: significantly worse. Like I don't know how many of you
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: have read or seen The Outsiders, but how one of
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the main characters dies They went into rescue kids from
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: a burning house and part of it collapsed on him. So, yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: most men view themselves as Maybe most men don't view
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: themselves as subhuman, but they do view others. They do
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: value others more than they value themselves, at least to
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the degree that they are humble about the value of
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: their lives and are willing to risk their lives. Even
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: boys are willing to risk their lives to protect other
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: people that they care about, and many of them that
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: qualifier that they care about goes well beyond the people
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: that they know and includes living things that are not people.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: So she asks him if his views make him on
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: women make him unhappy, and he says, it can be hard.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a freak, he says, Maybe it is natural
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: for me to tune this abuse out. I don't know.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: It gets me fucking angry, And again questions about this right.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Imagine judging a feminist for being angry about the history
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that they are told is true. What do you think
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: they would say? Do you think they would be like, oh,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you know, that's fair. I shouldn't be angry about this.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: It's not happening to me and the circumstances were not
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: as my ideology describes. Or do you think she would
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: call you a misogynist. Second one, yeah, I do too,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I think because I've been called a misogynist for that.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: And Eric offers the true believer. He analyzes permanent misfits
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: like Alex, who, because of some personal defect, feel unfulfilled
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: in life. I noticed she just called she called him defective.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: She stated that he has a personal defect, but she
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: hasn't actually described.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: What she called him regarded.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah that, Yeah, she did do that. That's true. Whatever
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: they undertake becomes a passionate pursuit, but they never arrive,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: never pause, offer rights. Instead, they can only find their
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: salvation in the compact collectivity of a mass movement. By
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: renouncing individual will, judgment, and ambition, and dedicating all their
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: powers to the service of an eternal cause, they are
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: at last lifted off the endless treadmill. Alex has more
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: zeal than anyone I've ever met, and he resents anyone
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: with less than a total commitment to his eternal cause.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people that are involved
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: in various causes from my earliest cause, and I guess
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: you could say my eternal cause is the pro life movement.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I want to see not just abortion reduced, to zero,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: but also suicide, war and the death penalty. I want
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: to see human life valuevalued to the degree that we
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: do everything we humanly can to prevent untimely death. But
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: and so my first one of my first bets of
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: activism was involved with the pro life movement. But this
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the compact collectivity of a mass movement renouncing individual will,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: judgment and ambition and dedicating all their powers to service
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: of an eternal cause. That's bullshit, right, being dedicated to
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: an outcome that you have assigned merit, you know, like
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I have assigned valuing and preserving human life to be
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to have merit as an outcome. I don't think that
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: that takes away free will. That is a judgment in
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: and of itself. I've judged humanity's attitude towards human life
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: to be way too blase, a like, we accept untimely
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: death way too easily, and as a result, we have
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: it happen way too often. But that doesn't necessarily mean
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: that somebody else is telling me what to think, or
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: that I am not making judgment calls in regard to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: what is right and wrong and how how it should
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: be approached.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: For instance, you look at abortion laws, and I look
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: at the history of women's responses to abortion laws, and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and I don't think that the most effective way to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: end the practice of using abortion as a means of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: getting out of pregnancy that it doesn't threaten to kill
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: the woman. I don't. I don't think the law is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the most effective means of changing that. Until we change
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the attitudes of women, they'll do the same thing they
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: did before, which is create an underground network, a black
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: market for abortion. They will even risk their lives to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: abort pregnancies that are progressing in a healthy manner, that
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: are safe. And so obviously the problem isn't the law.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: The problem is the attitude of women, and that's what
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. When people talk about making law
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the way that they address the problem, I feel like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: they're going down the wrong path, and that that's not
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: having someone else tell me that's that's looking at the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: other and assessing it and drawing a conclusion. I don't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: think that in cells are any different. I don't think
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: people are telling them what to think. I think they
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: are looking at the evidence, assessing it, drawing conclusions, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: acting on those conclusions. I know much about Alex Alex courses.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Some individual that I've never met, but I would bet
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you if you sat and talked to him for an
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: hour and you'd find that he's a totally different person
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: than the person that has been presented in this article.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: She goes on men who are drawn into hating and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: avoiding women are often born outsiders. A twenty twenty study
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: by the Commission for Countering Extremism I'm assuming that's a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: UK thing found that of in cells met the clinical
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: requirements for being referred for an autism assignment, suggesting a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: much higher rate of autism than in the general population.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know she realizes what she just said here.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: You can imagine that if you're a young man with autism,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: you're crying out for a rule book about dating, says
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: well William Costello, and academic at the University of Texas
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: who specializes in mating psychology. Dating has got to be
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: more difficult since it's moved online. He adds, it's all
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: pressure to do it on your own. But the way
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: that she words this, men who are drawn into hating
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: and avoiding women are often born outsiders. And then she
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: goes on to say that thirty percent of the cells
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: met the clinical requirements for being referred to for an
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: autism assessment. So, without understanding or knowing anything about autism,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: she just assigned all autistic people the classification of being
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: born outsiders. Now, obviously there are psychological differences, misunderstandings that
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: happened between autistic people and neurotypical people, communication differences, and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: so on, but that doesn't mean that you're born and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: to be an outsider. Being born different doesn't mean that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you have to be an outsider, that you have to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: that other people have to socially reject you. Most of
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: the problems in my inability to socialize with other people
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: were at my end growing up. The rest of my
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: classmates tried their damnedest to include me in things. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: just didn't always get it. Most of the time I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: didn't get it, And when I thought I got it,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't get it. And then there were times where
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I thought I was being rejected when I wasn't being
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: rejected right, And that's I'm very high functioning. I didn't
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: get diagnosed until I was in my fifties, just just
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, actually last year actually, so
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I went through all of my adolescents all
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: of my university days, all most of my various jobs,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: no employer, no coworker, knew, no accommodations from anyone, Right,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: it's not It shouldn't be the default setting in society
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: that just because a dude is autistic he gets treated differently.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Just because a dude is autistic doesn't mean that people
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: should suddenly exclude him from society. So this born outsider thing,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: it's really really ablest. If we can have a social
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: environment in which a person who is high functioning an
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: autistic that is female can find more acceptance than she
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: was looking for, we should really be able to do
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the same thing for boys. We really should be able
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: to do the same thing for men.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: F Y, I I'm not autistic or d D. I don't.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: I don't have any medical excuse for being as socially
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: awkward as I am, but I you know, I was,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: let's just say, reject it in my school days, and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was just because I kind of
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: just fucking suck. But it's okay to just kind of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: just fucking suck if you're a male, but you'll you'll
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: still get the same treatment that the average autistic or
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: edded person gets. With or without a diagnosis, because if
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: you're male and you're a bit weird, then you'll get
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: that kind of treatment d s M or no d
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: S even if even if there's nothing in the DSM
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: that can describe your condition, you might just you might
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: just be a normal male who has no medical excuse,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: uh for just sucking like you'll you'll you'll get that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: kind of treatment and maybe you deserve it. Maybe maybe
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: some will say that you deserve it because some people
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: are just fucking weird and maybe weird people should be
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: treated like they're weird. Okay, yeah, fair enough. But point
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: being when when women are just weird, they can they
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: can generally find people who sympathize with them. And maybe
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: that's because we live in a society. We live in
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: a society, uh where women will be forgiven for their weirdness,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: even in the event that they're just weird.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: But to.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Men, and indeed boys generally aren't. You can't even be
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit weird or you'll be I don't know
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: how to describe this without it sounding like victim mentality,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: but yeah, no, we the society in which we live
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: will forgive women for all manner of weirdness in all
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: manner of socio political directions.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: But our society, because of our gender attitudes, does a really,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: really lousy job of sorting out the difference between when
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: weird is a good thing, when it's just not a problem,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: in when it's a red flag like that, because there's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: there are different types of weird, and unfortunately we miss
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: the red flags when those are present in females, and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: we often assign red flag status to it when it's
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: harmless or beneficial if the weird person is male.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying weird as just to mean a little
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: bit different, and people often misinterpret what I'm saying, Like
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: when I say weird, they go, no, you're not weird,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: because they think I'm saying weird as though it has
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: negative connotations. It doesn't. Some people are just a bit weird,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: and that's like I say, it's not a medical condition,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: and it's nothing, it's something particularly bad. Some people are
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: just different. There's always going to be a minority of
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: people who are just a bit different, people who just
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: can't quite or don't quite go along with the consensus.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: And that's fine. That should have always been fine. And
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I don't say this in a fucking liberal progressive way.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I say this in a sensible centrist way. Quite a
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: lot of kids, and indeed adults are just a bit different, yep.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: And and it's good that we accept women and girls
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: who are just a bit different, but that that excuse
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: is not extended to men and boys who are just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: a bit different. They they are painted with some kind
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: of black paint, no matter what kind of weirdness it is,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: no matter what kind of difference it is. Yeah, no,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: we can all be weird, but it would be nice
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: if general weirdness was accept it and in men and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: women alike, and then boys and girls alike. It's just
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: that it's kind of not quite accepted when men and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: boys do it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of difference in his are a lot
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: of reasons in history to accept when men and boys
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: are a little bit different in fact. And it's I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: guess a good way to describe it as this, Right,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: you say, you got a classroom full of kids, and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: they're talking about geometrical shapes in in three dimensions, and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the the the feature brings in a cube, a box
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I and and it's got a different color on every side.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: And so she can talk about the different aspects of
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: this this shape based on like maybe the lines and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: colors and everything. But on the blue side, in the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: upper right hand corner of the square from the perspective
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: of the classroom, there's a little red dot, maybe spaint
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: paint splashed on it or something, uh, you know, and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: it's it's just there, and it's for most people they
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: are not going to notice it. But you got one
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: boy in a class that does. And it's a glaring
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: mistake that that there's this little red dot in the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: on the blue square, and that little red dot is
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: not the point of the lesson in the classroom. So
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: the teacher hasn't talked about it, hasn't highlighted it, hasn't
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: said anything. Drives his kid nuts and he finally has
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: to raise his hand and say, there's a little red
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: dot right there on the blue square in the upper
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: right hand corner from from the classroom perspective. And you know,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: there's different ways the teacher can respond to that. Wow,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: that's really great that you noticed. That's a fine attention
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: to detail. It's not the current subject of the the lesson,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: but way way to notice the you know, the finer
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: details of the item that we're examining very observant. Right,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: good praise, and the interruption is not too long, and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the class can go on and discuss other aspects of it.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: The kid's not going to be as bothered by it
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: anymore because now everybody knows about it and and so on. Right,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: But a lot of female teachers will turn around and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: snap at the boy. That's not what we're talking about.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: We're here to talk about the shape. We don't care
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: about the red dot, right, And at that moment, the uh,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: the boy has now been castigated for being observant, right,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: which is not a good thing, because the kid who
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: notices the little red dot might be the kid that
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: goes on in in some engineering project to notice the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: flaw that is going to cause the building to come
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: down the first time the wind speed gets, you know,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: above normal breeze level, or the first time there is
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: a minor earthquake, or the first time you know, the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: land around it thaws. And it's important to have that
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: person who's maybe just a little bit weird that notices
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: what other people disregard because it's not the subject of
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: the conversation. It's important to have that person, even if
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: he lacks the ability to distinguish between when it's important
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about the red dot and when it isn't,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Because when it is, if he's the only person that
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: notices it, and you've told him that he should never
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: talk about the red dot, your building comes down and
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: everyone in side of it is at risk of being
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: crushed if they are, you know, unable to get out then,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: which when a structure collapses, you don't really get a
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: lot of time. So it's it's important that we notice
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: the difference between when weird should be appreciated, when it
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: should be condoned or just enjoyed. Like, for instance, the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: guy who comes up with parody lyrics to popular music
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: as his main response to popular music calls himself weird
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: even right, there's no red flag in that, But there
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: are people that would red flag that. No noticing, no
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: noticing that there's a funny way to look at this,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: no noticing that there's a piece out of place, no
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: noticing that this one one problem in the math book
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: has the wrong answer given on the page where you're
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: supposed to check your work, like, no noticing, right, but yeah,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: and just that, just as the chud King pointed out,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: no noticing right. So, yeah, it's very important that we
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: we understand the distinction between appreciable, tolerable, and red flag behavior.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately we put gender first and assign those concepts
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: outside of their their actual place. We'll go on a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: little bit more here.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Some might say it's easy for women who can often
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: face unwanted sexual advances and harassment to dismissed men's complaint
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: complaints about sexual rejection. So let's let's talk about the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: way she worded this. Not it's not just awkward, right,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: it is called poisoning the water. You are to view
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: based on the way she worded this, you're supposed to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: view all advances as harassment when these guys do it.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Y'all know the meme, right with the the lady in
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: the office, the secretary at the desk, and she gets
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have it handy, But she gets a compliment
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: from the handsome guy and she's all Twitter painted, and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: then she gets the compliment from the unattractive guy. Yeah, yep,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: threatens threatens in him with human resources like that that one. Yep,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: poisoning the well. Uh, you're supposed to see from her perspective,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: You're supposed to see that as sexual harassment being being
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: spoken to by a guy that is beneath her notice.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: In her opinion, we don't do well to recognize how
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: painful this sexual invisibleness feels. Costello says, when men in
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: particular are in that poor mental health, they externalize their aggression.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: But we find that in cells have an awful lot
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: of toxic self image too, so they have a lot
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: of hate toward themselves. Loneliness is a hell of a drug.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: And this is something that I think a lot of
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: women do not understand because nobody lets us experience loneliness.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: If they think we're lonely, they come looking for us,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: even if we're weird, even if we're the uh, the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: one that doesn't you know, doesn't get it, dances the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: all the right moves to the wrong song, know, and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: so on like that or the wrong and the right
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: lyrics to the wrong song, wrong lyrics to the right song.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: We uh, we get invited to not be lonely, most
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: of us, if not by men and by other women. Now,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: what happens when men try to rescue other men from loneliness?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Women bitch about it.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Like this article, and then the faith spaces MM.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Hmm, yep. You probably can't find an in cell space
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: online that has not been invaded by women, even if
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: they take measures to make it a male only space.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: There have been feminists who have pretended to be male
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: in cells and invaded those spaces and then come back
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: and said nasty things.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: About them, and Baits was one of them. Yep.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: And of course, if there's ten thousand posts on a forum,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: you could probably find a handful the very worst examples
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: on the forum that would upset people. But are they representatives?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Are those those posts ambassadors for that forum or would
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: they be a typical if you got five to ten
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: posts out of ten thousand, would that be providing a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: good example or would that be painting a picture based
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: on your attitude? Which is what I think she did.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: Not many people post in the forums. It's just the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: same group of people posting, so you have.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: A wide range of opinions.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I imagine you do. And just a little bit that
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I've interacted with with people who are are open on
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook and stuff about being in cells. I
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: see both sides of the political fence represented in terms
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: of independence versus collectivism. I see social safety nets and
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and so on, being promoted by some and
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: avoided by others. I see, some people are religious and
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: some are not. Some are atheists and some are not. Like,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: it's quite interesting, there seems to be. It goes across
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: every part of the human spectrum of of uh demographic types. Honestly,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: some and some.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: Will just say that and hate some will just say
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: the emal repeatedly, and some hate blacks.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lot of Insuls are black. That's another one.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Didn't you say, Richard, that in cults are disproportionately black.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the Asian like Indian as well.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and probably darker skinned Indians more than lighter
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: skin Indians. And it seems like whether civilization a particular
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: civilization acknowledges having a cast system or not. Sorry, guys,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get distracted a lot now. That damn
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: thing is going off like every feature.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep hearing it as well.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm really trying hard. I'm sorry.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I can if you want to get if you want
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: to head off now and change the batteries, I think
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I can't. If I change the batteries, the fire alarm
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: will go off. I have to wait. I'm sorry. Yeah,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know what button to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: push in there, what series of like it's got some
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. If I just take the battery out,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's bad. I don't I don't want to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: deal with that again. Have you ever heard one of those.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: It's like a car alarm, and when it goes off,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: it's like one part of a car alarm. It's really
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: high pitched and you'll find.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do it.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh no, we're not. We've we've got, We've got
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: it's longer than it looks. Yeah, where was I? Oh god,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I see Andrew tape mentioned again. I forgot about that. Okay,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: so we were Yeah, so we'll we'll skip whatever it was.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I was just talking to the c c study because
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just completely derailed. That noise is gonna kill me.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: The CCE study also found that insults are likely to
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: have extremely poor mental health. Many have depression and suicidal thoughts. Again, hello, loneliness,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: what does it do to you? I'm sorry, guys, it's good.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: I will I will read the next two paragraphs here,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna switch out for the Patron Show.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go cover that fucking thing with a
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: with a hat.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: I'll say the thing I was I was I was
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: thinking of saying, Well, you went off and changed this.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to mute. I will unmute when I come back.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, there is this irony given what Richard just informed
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: us of that there are uh so many racial minorities
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: disproportionately who find themselves as in cells. And this isn't
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: to demonize any of them, because I don't consider in
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: celt to be a demonizing term. I find it to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: be a made up term that that feminists made up
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: completely with no with with no value as to who
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: they might be applying this term too. But yeah, this
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: is something that does affect Dare I say immigrant men,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: because I know this has become a theme in the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: in the advancement of of of of what is called
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things with the word right attached to it.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's people who feel isolated. And yeah,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: there's there's a there's there's a lot of minorities who
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: feel isolated, but men feel isolated. Anything you could say
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: about migrants who feel isolated, the same thing can be
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: said about Native men because they've been isolated in the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: same way. But that by this same narrative of of
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: of the the general populace who are defined as the enemy,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: and the general populace defined as the enemy are men
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: and and and yes, that that is especially straight white
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: male CIS men, but that that includes uh, straight sis men,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: of of of anyone who's not male. And even as
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: we flood this country with all manner of men who
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: are all manner of boys who are not white, they
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: are presented with the same narrative that because you are male,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: and because you are straight, and because you are sis,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: you should feel bad for who you are and yeat.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: This doesn't discriminate between any given race. It applies to
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: all of all of the men, all of the boys.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: It's not just the white boys. It's the black boys,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: and the brown boys and the yellow boys. Is it
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: applies to all of them, and and and so it's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: all ostensibly being offset along the lines of because you're
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: not white, no, you have this fail safe. Because you're
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: not white, you have this, you have this out that well,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: at least I'm not white, so I could still present
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: myself as a victim. But this offers next to nothing
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: in terms of a of a fail safe. At the
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: end of the day, you're still male, and no matter
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: what color you are, if you're male, the schools in
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: this country will teach you that because you're male, you
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: should feel bad, you should feel like you're you are
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: the oppressor, even though they're simultaneously teaching you that you
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: should feel oppressed by straight white Sis man at the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: same time, you should feel like you are an oppressor.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: And yeah, this this dragged them in both directions, and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: in a way that's even worse because you know, straight
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: white Cis males, straight Caucasian males are being told that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: you are every aspect of the bad thing, and so
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: they have to think of themselves as villains and that
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: but purely as villains, and so they they have to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: figure that ship out. But the the racially diverse boys
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: who go to these schools, they are told that they're
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: bad people because they're males, but they're also good people
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: because they're not white. And this this drives them in
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: two different directions. They're bad because they're males, but they're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: good because they're not white. And in a way that's
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: even worse because they're like, well, what the fuck am
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I Am I a villain or am I a victim?
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm both. And you know, to think of
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: yourself as a villain will ruin you psychologically, and to
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: think of yourself as a victim will ruin you psychologically.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: And if anything, if you're a male who is who
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: is not white or not straight or not says or whatever,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: you're you're going to be driven in both different directions.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: You're a villain and a victim at the same time.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: And if anything, that's gonna fuck you up psychologically. Even more, like,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: women are constantly being told that they're victims and it
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: kind of doesn't matter what their race is. Like as
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: long as you're a woman, you're a victim. And even
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: if even if you're the whitest woman whoever, even if
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: you're the whitest girl who ever existed, don't worry. You're
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: a victim. You can focus on just being a victim.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what your race is, don't don't worry. You
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: can always fall back on the idea that you're a victim.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: And the fact if you don't, other women will get
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: mad at you.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but and and it's like what Richard was saying,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: and it's and it's like, if you can ever get
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: an honest account from males of of any of these
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: client races, they will be like, they don't know how
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: to describe this because they're being painted as villains and
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: victims at the same time. And that's you know, it's
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: hard enough for us straight white CIS males too to
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: come to terms with being painted as victims, sorry, as
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: villains in every possible dimension. And that's like, you can
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: see why we would reject that, because like, I'm not
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: a villain in every way. I mean, surely there must
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: be some kind, some aspect of my identity that's not
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: a villain. And yet my school is telling me that
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I'm a villain in every possible direction. But any male
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: of a racial client group or or sexual orientation client group,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, gay men, slush boys, or in the same
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: situation as racial minority boys or men who are being told, yeah,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: you're in a way you're a victim and in a
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: way you're you're a villain. And that's that's that's double
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: the psychological trauma. Like it's it's it's highly unhealthy to
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: think of yourself as a victim, and it's highly unhealthy
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: to think of yourself as a villain, and racial minority
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: men and boys are being given both of those, having
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: having both of those psychological traumas inflicted on them. And
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: and you know, racial minority girls are having both of
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: those thrust upon them. They're having two layers of victim herd,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Like you're a victim because of your gender, and you're
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: a victim because of your race, and that's gonna that's
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: gonna fuck you up even more so. This, yeah, this
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: whole victim villain mentality that is being thrust upon everyone,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: if any affects racial minorities even more. It affects girls
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: and boys kind of equally.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: It's all a con job that is used to exploit people.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: And if you are not exploitable based on the villain
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: hood or victimhood that is imposed on you, if you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: don't adopt that mentality and allow yourself to be exploited
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: as canon fodder in the political war on individual rights
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: and freedoms, then you become automatically the villain, and you're
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: a bigger villain than any other villain, and suddenly you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: have to be canceled and eliminated, especially if you do
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: not lend yourself to the being used as victim fodder
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: on which the excuses for taking away certain groups civil
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: or human rights and freedoms is based, because that's the
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: wedge that is being used by the puppet masters of
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: folk ideology to take away everybody's rights and freedoms. So,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: for instance, if you're female and you are a recovered
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: rape victim, and you do not support the idea that
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: it's not a big deal that there are falsely accused
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: men who spend thirty eight years in prison, because rape
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: victims have it worse, and so you know, you say
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: you're a due process rights advocate, under that circumstance, you
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: are a bigger threat than just any other recovered victim
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: or any other independent person, any other due process rights advocate,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: because you buck the system of using the victimhood of
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: female rape survivors as a wedge to pry loose the
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: attachment that your country's citizens might have to their due
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: process rights. That's how that basically works.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: I was trying to think of what the opposite of
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: a straight white is male is and I guess it's
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: it's a lesbian, transit, transgender black woman. And I think,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: do they suffer the same do they suffer the equivalent
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: problem of being a straight white sismle. And yes they do,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: because they've been layered with four different kinds of victimhood.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: Like it's bad to see yourself as a victim because
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: of mutable characteristic. It's just like it's bad to see
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: yourself as as as a villain because of a mutable characteristics. Yeah,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: this is a system that nobody benefits from, just like
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: like I was saying on Tuesday that this this fucking
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: war in Iran is not benefiting any anyone. It's just
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: fucking everyone up. And yeah, this is if if you,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: if you divide everyone, no matter how many iterations of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: of division you you apply to this, if you, if you,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: if you think of yourself as an as four different
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: kinds of victim or four different kinds of villain or
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: equal parts villain and victim, like, none of it is good.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's all just gonna fuck you up psychologically, Like,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: no immutable characteristic makes you a villain or a victim.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: The only thing that should make you a villain or
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: a victim is stuff that has happened to you, the
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: events that have happened in your life.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Well, how you respond to that event can also determine things,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: like you know that there are things that I've gone
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: through that people have said to me when they've heard
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: about it or learned about it. My gosh, I'm so
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: sorry for you, and I've asked why because I'm you know, like,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I got bit by mosquito that grew in probably this
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: sump pump in my parents' house in December of nineteen
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: eighty four, and I are sorry nineteen eighty yeah, it
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: would have been nineteen eighty four. I got sick. I
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: got encephalitis, which is swelling of the It wasn't in
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: swelling of the actual brain tissue, was swelling of the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: lining around the brain, but they still called it stuff
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: lights And then it eventually did spread to the brain.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: I was in a short coma and everything from that,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: and it hurt like a son of a bitch. Like
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: if you'd have approached me with a power drill and
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: said let me relieve some of that pain, I'd have
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: been like okay. And I was like twelve years old
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: when that happened, And of course I was talking about
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: it last year, so from twelve to fifty two, so
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: forty years later, right, and somebody was like, oh, that
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: must have been horrible. I'm so sorry you went through that,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, it was forty years ago. It was
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: an awful experience. But there are some things that I've
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: learned since then. I you know, I've read up on mosquitoes,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: and you know, I read up on how to keep
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: them out of your house and away from you when
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: you're camping and stuff like that. It's made me a
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: more cautious person. And I've figured things out that you know,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: I have change the way I respond to spiders and
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: other creatures that eat mosquitoes. And it's if you take
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: something like that and all right, I survived this. I
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: got a side benefit by the way, I can get
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: a migraine without feeling any pain at all unless I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: think about it, and then I'll notice it, and it
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: does hurt. It's just not anywhere near as bad as
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: encephalitis hurt. But I'll usually i'll notice that when I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: get ocular migraines. So I'll notice it when I see
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: the glowy doughnut in one eye and not the other.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: But and anybody that gets ocular migraines knows what I'm
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: talking about. But it really depends I don't consider myself
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: a victim of that happening to me. Like at the time,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I was a victim, and my parents were victims. My
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: brother was a victim because they had they all had
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: to sit and worry. Most of the the experience that
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: I had with it was being unconscious or being delirious,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: so that I really didn't know what was going on.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I felt the pain enough to remember it and have
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: you know, a different attitude toward head pain than is normal.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: But my mom in particular, like she didn't leave my
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: side at the hospital. She stayed with me at the hospital,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: and when I was in a coma, I could hear
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: her praying that God wouldn't take me away, And like that,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: I would consider her to have been a bigger victim
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: of the situation than me, because the emotional roller coaster
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: that she he was on every time I showed a
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: little improvement and then dove right back down into super
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: high fever that could be potentially deadly or take away
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: my vision or my hearing and all that, I was
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: a lot less aware of what was going on. And
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: you know, my dad had to continue working the whole time.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: He couldn't take time off work to be there because
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: our bills would have gotten paid, and so he had
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: to rely on my mom for information. But cell phones
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: were not a thing for people in our income bracket
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: back then, and they didn't call them anyway. They were
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: called car phones because you didn't carry them around, you
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: had them in your car. And so yeah, and my
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: little brother didn't really know what was going on, except
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: that the adults were all scared, right, and those levels
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: of people don't think about stuff like that. I would
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: much rather have gone through the experience I went through
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: than than what they went through because of what I
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: was going through, and it's it's it was a lot
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: easier to be the one in the hospital bed than
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: the one praying to God not to take away a
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: family member. So victimhood is very much relative and that
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: was not intended as a pun And because of that,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: and when you have that mentality imposed on you, you
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: have to feel bad about this. You have to feel helpless,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: you have to feel robbed, kept down and trampled, and
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to experience what your brain goes through
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: when you overcome something that is hard. When you have
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: a success in spite of difficulties, pain and suffering, hurdles
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: and sabotage. When you succeed in spite of that, the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: changes that take place in your brain as a result
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: of that are so beneficial. I can't even begin. It
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: would take a whole show just to talk about that.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: But for people shorthand on this, for people who play
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: video games, you know what that feels like in small doses,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: every time you hit a hard part of the game,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: and you grind until you get it, until you beat it,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: until you get good right. And I think everybody that
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: is dedicated to something, music, dancing, math, any type of profession,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: inventing something, writing something, creating something, building something, you all
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: know what that feels like. So it's a terrible, terrible
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: disservice to people to impose victimhood on them and say
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: you have to feel helpless, you have to feel bad,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: you have to never think you can overcome this, you
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: have to never feel successful at overcoming this, because if
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: you do, you're hurting other people who were victims. And
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: that's what That's what they do to minorities, that's what
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: they do to victims of intimate partner and sexual violence.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: That's what they do to women in general. And it's
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: it's evil in some ways. It's it's as evil as
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: killing people, because you're killing human spirits. I don't know
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: if you guys can still hear the chirp. I will
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I put shit. I put a plastic
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: cookie container over it because I put the hat over it,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: and it did jack and shit, it did nothing. So
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: this is just driving me nuts. But so I'll read
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: the last paragraph I thought I was going to read. Well,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I haven't finished with this one. So mentioned or she mentioned,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: uh that in cells are likely to have extremely poor
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: mental health, and it's I would say some of that
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: is imposed, like obviously loneliness can do that, but the
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: way that they are treated by other people, outside of
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: just not having the connection and not having the support group,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: people are mean to in cells. It is a fact, right,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: And that's they're mean to in cells before and they
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: ever go into a forum and start talking to other
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: in cells mostly mhm off of insults in cells. Yep,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: that that is true. And cells are mean to each other,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: and that's we don't teach people to be kind anymore
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: or even just normally tolerant of people who are a
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: little bit differ I think that the book The Sneely
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: Mouth Snards and The Wonder Octopus should be republished and
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: should be required reading at every school. That might get
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: kids to understand a little bit about human uh human
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: contact with everyone instead of just your favorite people.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: Health health professionals on means yeah, it's it's weird.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Health professionals are mean to a lot of people, and
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: when I had encephalitis, they're not even always intentionally mean.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: This lady was trying to not scare the kid. And
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: there is nothing more terrifying, uh if to a kid
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: who's had emergency after emergency in their life and knows
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: the drill than an adult who fakes normalcy to avoid
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: scaring the kid like that. That person tells you that
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: this is very serious and you might die without well
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: the whole time they're trying to not tell you that
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: my mom and my grandma grandma had been an e
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: our nurse. They were just very matter of fact with everything. Okay,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: let's let's stand up and get in the car. They
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: had to help me walk to the car, and neither
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: one of them could pick me up because at twelve
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: years old, I was taller than my mom and almost
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: as tall as my grandma, and so they between the
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: two of them, they walked me to the car and
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: helped me turn and pivot like I was disabled, and
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: they did not you know, there wasn't an now do this, okay, now,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: let's get you situated here. It was okay, just turn
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: this way, sit down, You'll feel better when we get
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: this treated. Let's get your feet into the car, okay,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: and don't forget your seat belt. You know, none of this,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: none of the uh there's a high pitched, chirpy voice
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: that that these a lot of women do this right,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, look at you. Aren't you so cute?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: What you know?
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: What's your name? Like I'm going to strangle you? And
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: that's the way I felt about it, And and it was, Uh.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: I wasn't scared when I went into the hospital, but
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: it took my mom and my grandma an hour to
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: call me down after interacting with that nurse like that.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: And she was not trying to be mean, she wasn't
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: trying to scare me. Right now, the male version of this,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: I had injured one of my fingers. It was I
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: had broken my Oh no, that was when I had
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: I was in the hospital with paracarditis when I was eight.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: That is an infection in the lightning around the heart.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: We still don't know how I got that. And this
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: male nurse made a big deal about getting the X
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: ray of my finger to make sure I could get
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: that splint off, like he was comforting a dying patient,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: and you know, this is a mission. And that scared
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: me too, because I'm like, why is this such a
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: big deal. I'm a little uncomfortable. I don't like the splint,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: but it's just a splint, you know. It's not like
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: my friend that came to school for however many weeks
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: with a cast on his leg and crutches, Like that's uncomfortable.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: And again it's that there. There's just the faky overdoing it,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: melodramatic adults that do that, and in healthcare even when
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: they're trying to be nice, right, But the minute you're
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: an adult, or you're old enough to go in there
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: without a parent, or your parent isn't watching attentively and
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: you don't understand and all their instructions because they've used
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: a word that could mean a thousand different things and
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: you don't know which one they mean, or you have
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: difficulty tolerating something like the temperature of the thing they
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: are putting against your skin, or the position that they're
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: asking you to sit in or hold yourself in so
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: you can get that X ray. Like, they start snapping
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: at you, they start treating you like you're being wimpy,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: They tell you they can't help you. Right, I would
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: say it's not just in cells. Healthcare professionals are mean
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: to autistic people, and since there's an overlap, like, it's
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: a really mean but yeah, so they also score highly
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: on a personality construct called the tendency for interpersonal victimhood,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: which results in a life lack of empathy. Costello says
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: the way that manifests of victimhood orientation is no one
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: cares about my pain, why should I care about yours?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: So I will remind everybody what I said before about empathy, sympathy,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: and compassion. Empathy is the ability to understand I feel
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: your pain right. Empathy is literally I feel your pain.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: When I say headache. Everyone mentally can catalog headache because
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: they've had one, right, similar to stepped on a bee.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: If I if I say stepped on a bee. Besides
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: the fact that it makes you think of uh ever heard,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: you can mentally catalog that pain. If you've ever stepped
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: on a bee.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: It's not just that you can you can't help. This
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: is why I'm gonna do I'm going to do a
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: long term video about fucking suicidal empathy because it'll it
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: all depends on the idea that well, it flies in
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: the face of the idea. Empathy is an involuntary reaction, right, right,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: People who have empathy can't help feel the empathy for everyone,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: even the world's worst people.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: And even professionals are using the word incorrectly.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what he's.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Talking about is sympathy. Why should I caring about No
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: one cares about my pain, why should I care about yours? Right,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: Empathy is I feel your pain. Sympathy Sympathy is I'm
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: so sorry you're in pain. And compassion is let me
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: see what I can do to help you get out
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: of that pain.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, I suppose compassion in that sense when it's when
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: it's tied to action, is voluntary. But when we speak
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: of empathy, it's it's an involuntary thing. And this is
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: why it pisses me so off so much. When when
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: people talk about suicidal empathy. If you have empathy for
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: some demographics, but you don't have empathy for other demographics.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: That's not empathy. And an empathic person, sorry, an empathetic
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: person will feel empathy for any given person involuntarily, even
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: criminals on death row. And an empathic person can can
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: watch a child rapist on death row getting electrocuted to
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: death and they will feel empathy for that person because
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: they can't help it. That's what empathy is. It's like,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: like I said, it's an involuntary reaction and that so
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: to to describe licophobes as empathetic is completely missing the point. Yeah,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: because because we're talking about people who who only give
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: a ship about the feelings of certain demographics and they
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: give exactly zero ships about the feelings of other demographics.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: That is not empathy. That is the exact opposite of empathy.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: That is hierarchy. It's only giving a ship about certain
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: demographics and giving no ships about other demographics. If anything
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: that describes uh psychopathy, it's it's it's it's where, it's
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: it's where you. It's where you have this hierarchy in
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: your brain of people who deserve compassion and people who
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: do not. I say compassion as as something connects to
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: the actions that you make in order to help those people.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: By the way, empathy can go different directions. For instance,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: like your example of somebody watching a pedo be a
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: molester because they don't. They don't arrest people for thoughts,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: they arrest people for actions, and a pedophile is just
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: somebody who has impulses in that direction. As soon as
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: you act on those impulses, an individual is no longer
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: just a pedophile. There now a molester or a rapist.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: And if somebody acts on those impulses and then kills
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: the victim, they may get the death penalty. In some
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: states in the US, a person can watch that person
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: be electrocuted and feel their pain mentally and care about it, right,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: and that's sympathy, But the way in which they care
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: may be not compassionate. So some people might be happy
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: that person is in pain because they want that person
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: to be punished. That is sympathy, but it's anti sympathy,
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  Speaker 1: right because you don't you care. But the caring falls
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  Speaker 1: into the category of a sadistic caring as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: a compassionate caring. And these are all termed. People don't
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  Speaker 1: understand words, and it does I get pedantic about it
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  Speaker 1: when people use them incorrectly in a way that leaves
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  Speaker 1: room for error in in hashing out concepts. And actually
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  Speaker 1: I do like Costello, But that that tells you professionals
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  Speaker 1: use these words incorrectly in ways that leave room for
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  Speaker 1: communication to be derailed in a way that creates openings
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  Speaker 1: for lack of compassion. Compassion can also be I can't
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  Speaker 1: do anything about your pain, but maybe I can give
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  Speaker 1: you some other type of relief, like for instance, when
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  Speaker 1: when my mom had her last surgery, they couldn't. They
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  Speaker 1: had a limit to how much pain medicine they can
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  Speaker 1: give a person right without causing damage and eventually killing
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  Speaker 1: the individual. And that my mom was at that point.
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  Speaker 1: She had her whole spine worked on. She had been
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  Speaker 1: walking crooked like literally bent over to her left, and
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  Speaker 1: they straightened her spine. She had a lot done. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a degree to which there's going to be pain,
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  Speaker 1: and you're going to have to deal with pain, and
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  Speaker 1: so you can't you can't shut that off. But you
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  Speaker 1: can distract. You can hold someone's hand, you can give
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  Speaker 1: them something else to think about, anything else. You can
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  Speaker 1: show love and be be close and let them see
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  Speaker 1: that you're suffering with them. And you know, even expressing
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  Speaker 1: distress over someone else's experiences that are distressing is a
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  Speaker 1: form of compassion. That's all important, and it has less
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  Speaker 1: to do with empathy and more to do with valuing
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  Speaker 1: the individual and the individual's experiences. The big problem that
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  Speaker 1: we are seeing in this article right now. Costello does
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  Speaker 1: show some valuing of insults in their experiences the way
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  Speaker 1: that he talks, even in his quotes here that the
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  Speaker 1: quotes that she picked, which are probably the ones that
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  Speaker 1: were the easiest for her to portray as a negative
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  Speaker 1: assessment of insults instead of a positive assessment, he shows compassion.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, for instance, where she says, some academic
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  Speaker 1: studies indicated that men who are deemed to be of
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  Speaker 1: what Costello calls low mate value are more likely to
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  Speaker 1: become hostile towards women. He didn't say that necessarily, she did.
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  Speaker 1: She's excited studies, and consequently women tend to not like misogynists,
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  Speaker 1: So you become lower mate value than more misogynists, than
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: lower mate value than more misogynists. It's the cycle, which
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  Speaker 1: indicates that an individual gets trapped in a vicious social
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  Speaker 1: cycle that affects them mentally. Where Costello would view this
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  Speaker 1: as something that could would be dealt with in a
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  Speaker 1: way that would help the individual get back into the
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  Speaker 1: social fold. She might view this as something that would
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  Speaker 1: be a reason to treat the individual as a threat
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  Speaker 1: and further exclude them and possibly incarcerate them. Feminists and
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  Speaker 1: treat it very differently than the people who are actually
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  Speaker 1: studying in souls and trying to understand them. And here's
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  Speaker 1: where Costello says the same thing in a way with
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  Speaker 1: the the this that way, the way that manifests and
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  Speaker 1: victimhood orientation is no one cares about my pain, why
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  Speaker 1: should I care about yours. People reflect the way they
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  Speaker 1: are treated, and it creates a mentality. And as the
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  Speaker 1: previous paragraph shows that that mentality can push people away,
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  Speaker 1: it results in more treatment of the type that caused
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  Speaker 1: the mentality, and it exacerbates the mentality. And if you
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  Speaker 1: have someone who is autistic or has some other intellectual
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  Speaker 1: disability who has been raised with social handicaps, they were
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  Speaker 1: raised in a man desert, They were raised in an
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  Speaker 1: environment where being a little bit different got them excluded.
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  Speaker 1: They were programmed growing up to respond this way. Their
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  Speaker 1: ability to break that cycle may be very limited. Whereas
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  Speaker 1: the people around them who were raised in a more
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  Speaker 1: functional environment, Maybe they weren't raised in a man desert,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they have a lot more examples in their life
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  Speaker 1: of being included and treating treated with at least baseline
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  Speaker 1: kindness and such. They have the capability of breaking that cycle.
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  Speaker 1: And if people choose to respond by engaging in further
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  Speaker 1: cruelty and isolationism as opposed to kindness and attempting to
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  Speaker 1: break that cycle by changing the way that they treat
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  Speaker 1: in cells, then maybe that cycle could be broken and
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  Speaker 1: maybe reversed. But if it's continually imposed, if they continue
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  Speaker 1: to have to suffer cruelty and being excluded, being treated,
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  Speaker 1: being treated like a disease, like an infection in the
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  Speaker 1: pop the population, it's only going to get worse. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So it's actually up to everyone out there listening. It's
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  Speaker 1: actually up to both men and women who recognize that
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  Speaker 1: human value isn't determined by how many how many people
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  Speaker 1: like you, it's it's uh shown I suppose how much
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  Speaker 1: other people recognize it by how many people like you
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  Speaker 1: or how many people treat how people other people treat you.
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  Speaker 1: But the baseline of human value is you are worth
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  Speaker 1: as much as a human being, and that starts out
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  Speaker 1: that way with every human being, and it is We're
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  Speaker 1: never going to solve this if we don't recognize that
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  Speaker 1: and change what we're doing. I'm going to call it
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  Speaker 1: into it here because it's in ten, ten after nine,
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  Speaker 1: it's twelve after nine now, so hopefully we can we
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  Speaker 1: can get that noise fixed. Uh in between now and
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  Speaker 1: the Patron only after show, so I don't get I
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  Speaker 1: don't lose my train of thought every thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 4: You should be you should you should be you should
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  Speaker 4: be able to find that we was kept booking matron
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  Speaker 4: line somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, we'll we'll do our best too. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: thanks everybody for listening. Let's see I got all of
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  Speaker 1: the super chows. I don't think there are any super chats.
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  Speaker 1: Let's double check. I know there were not any paid
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: ruble rants, so and I don't see any super chats
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  Speaker 1: going all the way back to the beginning, so that
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  Speaker 1: will be it. Thanks everybody for listening, and thanks to
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  Speaker 1: my all my co hosts for going over this weird
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  Speaker 1: article with me, and uh thanks again to Brian for
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  Speaker 1: going late again night all.
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  Speaker 2: See you next Thursday. H