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Set 1: A Whole Lot of 1-1 (w/ Bobby Skinner) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: And there's Dan Lanning out there because no one can
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  Speaker 1: yell at him. There is Lanning out on the field,
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  Speaker 1: not focused on the opponent, not focused on his team,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: not focused on the game.
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  Speaker 2: He is focused on making Pat McAfee laugh. Enough. Terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible job by Lanning.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Lanning is the Nick Saban of Mike Norvell's.
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  Speaker 4: Who the hell is Dan Lanning?
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  Speaker 3: Could at least give us Ben Johnson might be the
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  Speaker 3: greatest coach ever.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, no.
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  Speaker 3: Knock if you agree with me.
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  Speaker 5: Give me the frozen dungeon.
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  Speaker 3: I know we're doing overreaction Mondays.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I would still be surprised. And it's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: You got nothing right there.
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  Speaker 3: It's time to get your pint.
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  Speaker 2: Tomato, tomato.
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  Speaker 3: There is no worse surprise than surprise Gouda.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad for Arch Manning playing so poorly.
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  Speaker 1: I was saying to myself, he doesn't have it.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a Manning.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone is a fraud.
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  Speaker 4: This is Steve Spurrier, former Gator head ball coach.
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  Speaker 3: And you've been listening to Stugatz and Company. Everyone is
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  Speaker 3: a fraud. Surprise Gouda.
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  Speaker 1: It is Stugatz and Company presented by FanDuel and the
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  Speaker 1: FanDuel Sportsbook. Bobby Skinner, Giants Nation blogger, is going to
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  Speaker 1: join us. Podcast is going to join us here in
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  Speaker 1: about 15 to 20 minutes. Hour number two will be
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky head coach Will Stein plus the weekend observations.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, I think we need to start here. The Rams
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  Speaker 2: are back.
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  Speaker 3: So I think the story yesterday was more about the
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  Speaker 3: Giants than the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Because if you're a Giants fan, that game lasted seven
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  Speaker 3: plays for you because the second Jackson Dart went out,
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  Speaker 3: pack your bags, go back to New York, game's over,
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  Speaker 3: where there's something so cruel about football where last week,
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  Speaker 3: week one, 25th anniversary of 9-11, you have that emotional win.
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  Speaker 3: You have a Hall of Fame coach in John Harbaugh
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  Speaker 3: coming to Resurrect your franchise. You have what looks like
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  Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback in Jackson Dart. Giants fans riding high
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  Speaker 3: after week one, and it all comes crashing down week two.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I would say it was more about the Rams. I
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  Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. The Giants, they suffered a number
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  Speaker 1: of injuries. They avoided some really, really bad injuries, especially
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  Speaker 1: at the quarterback spot to Jackson Dart, sprained MCL.
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  Speaker 2: It could have been worse. He'll be out a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of weeks here. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get a report later today. But the Rams were
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  Speaker 1: a team that started 0-1-1. Had all their travels to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was questioned. We talked about Rams of the field
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  Speaker 1: headed into the season. And the Rams, without arguably their
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  Speaker 1: two best players last night, Puka and Miles Garrett, get
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  Speaker 1: a 28-6 win over a team.
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  Speaker 2: I know they were banged up.
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  Speaker 1: And that game probably is different if Jackson Dart stays
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  Speaker 1: healthy in that game.
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  Speaker 2: But we were talking about the Rams not making the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: And now here they are, 1-1.
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  Speaker 1: And they blew out a team the way they should
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  Speaker 1: blow out a team. And they did it without two
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  Speaker 1: of their best players.
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  Speaker 5: This whole we were talking about it. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: There wasn't no we talking about the Rams missing the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: We all know who it was, you.
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  Speaker 6: What you're looking for is the Rams had a built-in
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  Speaker 6: excuse in week one, and now the Giants have a
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  Speaker 6: built-in excuse in week two. I mean, you won't find
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  Speaker 6: a bigger fan of Jameis Winston than me. If you
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  Speaker 6: gave me a bucket list of who I could have
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  Speaker 6: on this podcast, Jameis Winston.
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  Speaker 5: Is probably a top five guest.
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  Speaker 6: But Jameis Winston, when he came in, was 11 for
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  Speaker 6: 27 for 111 yards with an interception. And I got
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  Speaker 6: to tell you, those numbers look better than it looked
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  Speaker 6: on film. He looked so bad when you were watching.
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  Speaker 5: There were wide open receivers that he was literally throwing
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  Speaker 5: it at their feet.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: It was hard to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's why he's holding a clipboard, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: Mikey, that performance was so horrific. And you could see
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  Speaker 3: Jameis Winston on the sideline where you could– there was
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  Speaker 3: one moment where you could lippery Jameis Winston. He was like,
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  Speaker 3: I got to lock in. I got to lock in
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  Speaker 3: because he knows in the moment how bad his performances
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  Speaker 3: are where he's missing wide open throws. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think the Giants offensive line did him– many favors because
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  Speaker 3: there was almost instant pressure on a lot of his dropbacks.
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  Speaker 3: That interception was horrific where McDuffie shows why the Rams
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  Speaker 3: go out and acquire him with that red zone interception.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like the Rams were giving the Giants opportunities
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  Speaker 3: to get back in the game, and Jameis Winston was like,
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  Speaker 3: I have nothing for you guys right now. And, Stu,
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching that game from my couch yesterday, and I
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  Speaker 3: kind of had the realization– Everybody wants the Jameis Winston
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  Speaker 3: game until it's time for the Jameis Winston game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the Jameis Winston game they want is the good game,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes it's a really, really bad game.
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  Speaker 2: He will, but he'll also have what he did last night.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a dreadful, terrible game that reminds you as
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  Speaker 1: to why the former number one pick is a career backup.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: I would also tell you that Brian Dayball is supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be this offensive genius, and I was.
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  Speaker 5: Calling the Giants' plays... Brian D'Abel is in Tennessee. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: Who am I thinking of?
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  Speaker 2: They're not much better, by the way. Matt Nagy?
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  Speaker 5: Might as well be. That's the one.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Nagy. Dayball, Nagy, tomato, tomato.
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  Speaker 5: Same thing.
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  Speaker 3: So, Stu, I think the biggest win last night would
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  Speaker 3: be the fact that it seems like Jackson Dart is
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  Speaker 3: not going to miss a significant amount of time. He
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  Speaker 3: avoided a major injury. There was that moment where you
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  Speaker 3: see the trainer talking to Harbaugh and you could lip
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  Speaker 3: read the trainer where people think the trainer said four
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  Speaker 3: to six weeks, by the way, underrated skill being able
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  Speaker 3: to lip read.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to do it. I can't,
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  Speaker 2: I'm terrible at it. I can't see.
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  Speaker 5: I can't hear.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't have to when I'm lip reading.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that it seems like Jackson Dart avoided
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  Speaker 3: major injury where they're saying after the game, he, he
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  Speaker 3: tried to go back into the game and, and, Maybe
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  Speaker 3: if it's not a Week 2 game and there's some
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  Speaker 3: bigger stakes attached to the game, Jackson Dart actually does
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  Speaker 3: come back in that game. But if he does miss
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  Speaker 3: four to six weeks, that's the only negative to this game.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think if you told Giants fans after Week
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  Speaker 3: 2 they'd be 1-1, almost every Giants fan would sign
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  Speaker 3: up for that. It just now comes with the caveat...
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  Speaker 3: you're now missing your potential franchise quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's 1-1 against the Cowboys and the Rams. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they would take that.
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  Speaker 1: If you told them before the season, hey, you'd be
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  Speaker 1: 1-1 after two games, that means they beat the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: or the Rams. And, yes, most Giant fans would take it.
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  Speaker 1: They would not take their quarterback being hurt. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: that's the way. I mean, that was an injury. That
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  Speaker 1: was not Jackson Dart trying to run. That was not
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  Speaker 1: him out of the pocket. That was a legit hit.
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder how Bears fans feel today when they
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  Speaker 1: hear that Jackson Dart, who was hit, wanted to try
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  Speaker 1: to get back into the game, and Caleb Williams, who
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  Speaker 1: wasn't hit at all, didn't want to try to come
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  Speaker 1: back in that game. I just wonder how Bears fans
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  Speaker 1: experience that. Why are you laughing, Mikey? I know you
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  Speaker 1: were thinking it.
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  Speaker 5: They are a sensitive bunch, those Bears fans, man.
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  Speaker 2: They are.
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  Speaker 6: You say one bad thing about Caleb Williams, and they're like,
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  Speaker 6: you don't know, man.
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  Speaker 5: You never had that.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm also not being paid millions of dollars to, you know,
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  Speaker 6: cry on a cart for a grade one.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I love it as if they know what
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  Speaker 1: it's like to play quarterback in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus.
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  Speaker 6: Going back to the Giants, though, I would say they're
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  Speaker 6: a good one in one and they have a really
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  Speaker 6: good win against the quality team. And they have a
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  Speaker 6: built in excuse in losing the second game. So you
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  Speaker 6: could go see, like, I look at the Jets and
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  Speaker 6: I think that's.
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  Speaker 5: An awful one in one.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Because you should have won that game. No, I know,
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  Speaker 2: but you're playing the result there.
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  Speaker 1: If you told Jet fans before the season they'd be 1-1,
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  Speaker 1: they'd take it, right?
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: That's the difference. It's not only the record, but it's
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  Speaker 5: how it happened. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Browns are a good 1-1. The Ravens are
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  Speaker 2: an awful 1-1. Is that fair?
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Mikey, the only reason why I'll push back on it,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure the Giants are a good 1-1,
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  Speaker 3: is because... Yes, the Rams should be one of the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl favorites, but your offensive and defensive lines got
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  Speaker 3: absolutely pushed around. If you're the Giants, where we hear
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  Speaker 3: so much about the Giants' pass rush, they could not
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  Speaker 3: get any pressure on Matthew Stafford, where their pressure rate
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  Speaker 3: was nearly 25% below NFL average. And then you're watching
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  Speaker 3: their offensive line get manhandled by the Rams' defensive front.
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  Speaker 3: And Cam Scadaboo? Cam Scadaboo almost had no chance yesterday because...
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  Speaker 3: All his yards basically came after contact. But Cam Scadaboo,
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  Speaker 3: if you need two yards, Cam Scadaboo could get you
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  Speaker 3: two yards. If you need five yards, Cam Scadaboo is
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  Speaker 3: going to get you two yards.
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  Speaker 1: Plus his mind was in the locker room with Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Dart because, God forbid, he separated from Jackson Dart for
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  Speaker 1: more than 15 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, Scadaboo was losing his mind. What are you saying?
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  Speaker 2: Scadaboo can only get you two yards?
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  Speaker 6: Two yards at a time, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Put it on the poll.
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  Speaker 1: Can Cam Scadaboo only get you two yards at a time?
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  Speaker 1: I want to go through the one-on-one teams and see
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  Speaker 1: who's a good one-on-one and who's a bad one-on-one.
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  Speaker 2: But go ahead, Taylor. You had something else there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, when it gets announced
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  Speaker 3: that Puka Nakua is out for this game, then you're
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  Speaker 3: starting to shift your mindset and be like, oh, maybe
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  Speaker 3: the Giants could pull this upset. Devontae Adams had a
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  Speaker 3: night where he just turns back the clock, eight catches,
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  Speaker 3: 195 yards, two touchdowns. You're watching that game and you're like, Giants,
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: figure out a different plan for Devontae Adams.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Adams kills you or whoever the Rams number two is
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  Speaker 3: with Pukunuku out, I'd rather take those chances because Devontae Adams,
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  Speaker 3: for the most part, was wide open the entire night.
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  Speaker 1: There's a good chance they're going to Devontae Adams, is
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  Speaker 1: your point, when Puka Nakua is not playing. You say
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  Speaker 1: turn back the clock, and I would say turn it
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  Speaker 1: back to last year. Devontae had a couple of games
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  Speaker 1: like that just a year ago. He's been great as
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  Speaker 1: a ram. He leads the NFL, I'm telling you, all
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  Speaker 1: time in the history of the NFL of guys who
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  Speaker 1: will have that game.
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  Speaker 2: The game he had last night where it's just eye popping.
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  Speaker 1: You open up the box score in the morning and
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  Speaker 1: it's eight catches, 195 yards and two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: He does that pretty often. I mean, he does.
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Last season, I know he was battling injuries, but
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  Speaker 3: he had 789 yards. He basically got like 25% of
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: his yards from last season just yesterday against the Giants,
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  Speaker 3: which seems crazy.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know he was battling injuries. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: he had some big games last year.
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  Speaker 3: He has those games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has those games.
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  Speaker 1: I had a situation where I was trailing by like
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  Speaker 1: 25 points in my fantasy game.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart went down. I thought it was done. Done, over.
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  Speaker 1: The other guy had Isaiah Likely.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was done. And then I realized I
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  Speaker 2: have Devontae Adams. And I won.
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  Speaker 3: 40.9.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 3: Mikey, I think my favorite moment from this game yesterday
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: was after the game where Sean McVay is talking about
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  Speaker 3: the travel plans from Australia. And to Sean McVay's credit,
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  Speaker 3: he put his hand up because he said, sometimes you
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: win and sometimes you learn. Sometimes you have a dumbass
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  Speaker 3: coach who makes travel plans that put you in a
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: bad spot, which is kind of what everybody was saying
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: when they were like, what are the Rams thinking with
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: these travel plans?
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: That's taking the heat off of Todd in accounting. How
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: about that? Is he still hired there? Is he still there?
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: So he is taking responsibility.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: For the 0-1 start. He is admitting, he is acknowledging,
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  Speaker 1: and we have spent way too much time talking about
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: how to travel to Australia, but he's acknowledging that his
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: way was the wrong way, yes?
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  Speaker 3: He called himself a dumbass.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with McVay. I want
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  Speaker 1: to like him. I should like him. He makes jokes
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  Speaker 1: about himself. He doesn't take himself that seriously, yet he
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: does at the same time. It's a weird vibe, okay?
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: He'll say things which make you think he doesn't take
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: himself too seriously. And then he wears sunglasses inside like
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: he's a fighter pilot and does a 60-minute interview, and
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: I want to punch him in the face.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with McVay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so torn on my emotions and feelings towards the
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  Speaker 1: Rams coach. He seems like a guy I would love,
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  Speaker 1: yet I can't find a spot in my heart where
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: consistently I love the guy.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Perhaps I feel like I'm looking in the mirror. I
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. It's like an irrational confidence
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  Speaker 2: that he has.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: What I think it is... It's the L.A. factor where
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: that L.A. Rams team, I don't know any L.A. Rams
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  Speaker 3: teams or L.A. Rams fans where they are probably the
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: best team in sports that are the most irrelevant in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the national perception of them.
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  Speaker 2: Because L.A. doesn't care or we just don't care?
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  Speaker 3: I think we need to get McVay to a franchise
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  Speaker 3: that evokes some kind of emotion out of people. If
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  Speaker 3: he was the Cowboys coach where it's easier to hate him,
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  Speaker 3: or if he was the Jets coach where it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I want to root for this guy. When he's out
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: there for the L.A. Rams, it's kind of like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you're doing out there, it really doesn't matter in
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: the grand scheme of things.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be clear. He's never going to be the Jets coach.
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  Speaker 1: Mikey made a face when I said I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking in the mirror. I am nothing like Sean McVay.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking there.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to say, what funhouse mirror are you
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: looking in that you see Sean McVay?
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  Speaker 5: That's like me saying when I look in the mirror,
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: I see Dan Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: Like, no, no. Very different.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Someone should invent a mirror where if you look into it,
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: if I look into it, I turn into who, like,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: it's a McVeigh mirror, okay? And what's looking back at
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: me is someone who looks like Sean McVeigh.
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  Speaker 2: It'd make me feel better about myself. But you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I said that.
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  Speaker 2: I regret saying it.
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  Speaker 1: I regretted it as it was coming out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 1: When I look in the mirror, perhaps I see myself.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking there because he
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: and I are nothing alike. Just maybe the irrational confidence.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go through the one-on-one teams here before
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: we get to Bobby Skinner. Let's determine who's a good
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: one-on-one and who is a bad one-on-one here.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: I have these standings pulled up here. You have them, Mikey?
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: I do. I'll throw them out, and we'll just go
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: quickly through them.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore. Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bad 1-1. Are we playing the results, or
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: if you ask me before the season?
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: You can play it however you want to play it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you just played the results of the.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Jets, and then I asked you before the season, and
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: you take it. Baltimore is a bad 1-1.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor?
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: I think Baltimore is a good 1-1. They just got chucked.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right. Next one, Mike.
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Good 1-1.
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  Speaker 3: Bad 1-1. I hate that quarterback.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I know you do.
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: It's a long-term bad 1-1 because now that's one more
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: game he gets.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: I get you.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: No, we all understand that, but I'm doing it from
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: fan expectations.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Browns fans are happy with their 1-1 start. Raven fans
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: are not. That's all. Okay. Pittsburgh. Yeah. They're always 1-1.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: I've got this as a terrible one-on-one. I hate that quarterback, too.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I know. Do it by not.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Don't do it by how you feel about the quarterback.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Do it by how you think the fan base feels
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: about their one-on-one story.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: I'm doing it by the fact that if you're a
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Steelers fan and you're watching the Steelers after two games
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: and you're sitting at one-on-one, you're not feeling good because
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: of what Aaron Rodgers has put on tape.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: That is fair. It's... But they're numb to it. I mean,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: they're 1-1. It's a good 1-1.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: It's fine. It's benign. I don't care about the Steelers.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: Dallas.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Lost to the Giants.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: That game in the first half was close against Washington
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: until Jaden went down. All the hype coming into the season.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that's a loss to the Giants.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Bad 1-1. Taylor?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Bad 1-1 because of the divisional loss. Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: And the divisional win.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Right. But you can't lose to the Giants.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: Nope, just wanted to point it out.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Green Bay.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: This is a terrible one-on-one.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: This is a terrible one-on-one. Why are you even thinking
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: about this? This is a terrible one-on-one.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: It should be an 0-2.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: No, but they were staring 0-2 right in the face,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and now they're 1-1 and have some relief. And Micah
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Parsons will come back eventually.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: The 1-1 you were staring in the face, the 0-2
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: you were staring in the face, the Jets were on
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: the other side of that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: No, I understand that, but they pulled one out. I mean,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and got themselves to 1-1. If you told the fan
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: base before the year, would they be happy with the Packers?
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: We've got like 10 more teams to get to here
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: in like two minutes.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I know, the whole season is 1-1. Who the Packers play,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the whole league is 1-1. Who the Packers play the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: first game?
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Vikings.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Ooh, they lost it. It's a bad one-on-one. I'm sorry.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it took 20 minutes to get where Taylor and
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: I were.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: The Saints.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: That's a good one-on-one. The Saints are a good one-on-one.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Good one-on-one.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Giants.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: They feel like they should be 2-0, but they have
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, and it's a good one-on-one. The Giants, that's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a good one-on-one.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Giants, it's a bad one-on-one because you lost Jackson Dark.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I know, but whatever.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: The Chicago Bears.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Bad one-on-one. I mean, just.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Carolina, good. Vikings, bad. Lost their quarterback. Ben Johnson wants
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to break the scoring record. He's not going to do
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: it scoring three points in a game.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: It's a bad one-on-one. It's a bad one-on-one.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say it's a good one-on-one just because
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson can lean on the crutch of bad elements
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: in the Week 2 loss.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can't do that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Denver Broncos.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Who did they play Week 1 again? I forget. chiefs
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: they played the chiefs they.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Got emotional patrick mahomes return.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yes yeah yeah but mahomes didn't do much it was
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of kenneth walker mahomes ran for some touchdowns
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: god does he look good um i'll say a good
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: one and one good one and one taylor good one
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and one yeah all right next team arizona card is.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: The whole league one and one I've.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Got literally one, two, three, four, five, six more after this.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Arizona has to be a good one-on-one.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: They have to be a good one-on-one.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: No one's expecting them to be one-on-one, including their coach,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: including their quarterback.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: They're one-on-one. They'll take it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I think this is about as bad a one-on-one as
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: you could be because Cardinals need to be in position
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: to win the draft. They're not trying to win games.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: You have to win the draft. Any win you have,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: bad win if you're.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: In the Cardinals. All right, next one.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: The Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Wow, lost to Denver on the road.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: It's tough because you want to see them go to
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Denver and actually win that game. They had a lead
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in the first half. You want to see if Trevor Lawrence.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And Jacksonville has actually changed as an organization, and they haven't.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to say a bad one and one.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: They did last year. No, I know.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Last year.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I know, but that was last year. I mean, that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: was then. This is now, Mikey. I'm going to say
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a bad one and one for Jacksonville.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Taylor? Taylor?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I think this is a good one and one. I've
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: liked what I've seen from Trevor Lawrence. I know he
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: lost that game against Denver, but it wasn't really Trevor
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Lawrence's fault if you watched that game.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I did watch that game, clearly. So anyway, next team.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Listen, if you like or you don't like what you've
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: seen in Trevor Lawrence, just wait. The Detroit Lions.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy. Who'd they play week one? They beat the Saints, right?
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: They beat the Saints.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: They won a game they should have lost, and then
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they lost again. Who'd they lose to in week two?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Bills, Thursday night.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It's a good one-on-one.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I like it. Yeah, I'm not going to hold it
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: against them that they lost to the Buffalo Bills.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good one-on-one.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Great one-on-one. The most exciting one-on-one in the history of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Yes. I can't get enough of them. Bryce
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Young is good, right? That's it? Like, he's good? We've
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: seen enough? He's good? He's a guy you want to
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: be your quarterback for the next 10, 15 years. Nope.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: I think I'd rather have Dave Canales as my head
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: coach than Bryce Young as my quarterback.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Put it on the poll.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Would you rather have Canales as your head coach than
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young as your quarterback?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Taylor, good one-on-one, bad one-on-one, exciting one-on-one?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: It's a good one-on-one. I think it's the same situation
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: you have in Chicago where I'd rather have Ben Johnson
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: for the next 10 years than Caleb Williams. Again, if
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you gave me the choice.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. You guys are crazy. Next team, Mikey.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: The New York Jets.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: It's a good one-on-one.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I mean, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: didn't think they were going to beat Tennessee. They beat Tennessee,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and they should have beaten Green Bay. They should be 2-0.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I understand the frustration. But if you told me before
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the season that Jets would look competent and be 1-1
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: through two games, I'd take it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: It's a good 1-1.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: They looked competent until they didn't look competent, though. So
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's trending towards a bad 1-1.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It's a terrible 1-1. It's an awful 1-1.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: You should have won both games.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You didn't.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: You should be 2-0.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: You're the host. You shouldn't be playing the game. I mean,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: you haven't commented on any of the team.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Don't care.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: It's a good 1-1, Mikey. You know it's a good 1-1.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: It's not.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: The New England Patriots.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: That's a, well, it's a good 1-1. It is. It's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a solid 1-1.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: It's a great 1-1.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a great 1-1. Yeah, they're going to be good.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Last team, because we've gone through all of them.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: The Los Angeles Rams.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Hmm.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: They're back.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: That was a great one and one.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: They are back. That's a good one and one. It's
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: a good. Now, if you told the rant, we were
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Them being undefeated, but they lost the game in Australia
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to San Francisco, but they come back and redeem themselves,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I guess, against the Giants 28 to 6 last night.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And they did it without Puka, and they did it
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: without Miles Garrett. So that's important. That's a good one
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and one. They're still the best team in the NFL.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Team to beat.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Bobby Skinner, Giants Nation podcast is going to join us next.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Get us updated on all the injuries and what transpired
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: last night in Los Angeles. A dejected Bobby Skinner is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with us right now. He looks like he just had
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: a rough, rough night. He is the host of Giants
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Nation podcast. Bobby, how was your evening last night? You
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: look like a.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Misery, man.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Sunday night football last week, I was like, man, I'm
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: staying up until 3 in the morning.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I'm getting stuff scheduled for the morning.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Wake up at 6 a.m. And then today it's like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: all right, I guess we'll do our normal day after
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the game routine. And it's even worse because now everything's
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: crammed because it's a short week. So it's like, all right,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I have to start prep for the Titans already. So
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: just a normal Giants game where they get blown out.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: And their four best players get injured. So it was,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: it was a beautiful evening for the New York giants.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Uh, put us there when their most important player, Jackson dart,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: who was not scrambling.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: He was just playing quarterback.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, put us there with Bobby Skinner, where Jackson dark
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: goes down and goes out of the game.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, you think it's it? I mean, he's laying
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: on the ground and you know, the rest of the
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: giants players are like Simba, like with Mufasa, like, are
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you dead? Um, Then he walks off, and then you
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: have all these Twitter, like you have the Twitter doctors
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: being like, yep, torn ACL and MCL. You got, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: a trainer mouthing four to six weeks. He's walking off,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: and then Jordan Renan says that, you know, he tried
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: to come back in the game. Joe Shane, who has
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: tried the calm nerves before, saying he's going to be okay,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: so you don't trust that. So it's looking like a
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: two to four week. But in that moment, it's just like, oh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: my gosh. Like, every good thing that would happen this week.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Now I have to deal with a year missing the quarterback.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: And that being a reason why, hey, we're staying the
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: course with this. Of course nothing went well. We lost
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: our quarterback. But it's looking like they avoided the disaster.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: My real worry, though, is these next four games, they're
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: the most winnable four-game stretch for the Giants. And was
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: hoping to come out of that 4-2, 5-1. Now it's like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: all right, now you got to stay above water.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Bobby, what's your level of confidence with Jameis Winston? Because
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people were not optimistic, but
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: thought that Jameis Winston could kind of at least hold
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: his own. And he was a disaster on Monday Night Football.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a backup quarterback rankings before the season.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Just like, hey, where is Jameis? Now, I've always been
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: the person. I was like, yeah, if you have a
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: good backup quarterback, that's still a bad QB in the NFL.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: But you didn't think he'd look like that, right? The
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: bad of Jameis is throwing three interceptions and being overly aggressive.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: But he lacked zip on the ball. I don't think
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you're going to get that going forward. I'm not saying
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: he's going to play good. He could throw three interceptions
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: against the Tennessee Titans this week. But I think he's
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: going to look more in control. He's not completing less
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: than 50% of his passes. I mean, that was just
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: brutal what they had last night with him. So I
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: don't think you get that bad going forward. But is
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: he going to be good enough to win games? That's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: the big question.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: For the Giants. What are you hearing on Jackson Dart
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: in terms of how much time he's going to be out?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Rappaport said last night it's a sprained MCL. Timetable, haven't
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: heard anything. Obviously the Giants are going to be optimistic
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: about that, but they're not going to say anything publicly.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: You look at it, it's like the sprained MCL is
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: kind of like a two to four week thing. I
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: can definitely see Dart trying to tough it out after
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: this Titans game this week and trying to fight through that.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I've seen Andrew Thomas play like a half a season
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: on a spring in MCL. Obviously, it's different playing tackle
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: versus quarterback, but it looks like a month at most
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: type of injury for him.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Bobby, outside of the quarterback position, would you say you
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: were more concerned after last night with the offensive line
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: performance or the defensive line performance where they were only
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: able to pressure Matthew Stafford on less than 10% of
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: his drawbacks.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Absolutely the defensive line. Yeah, I mean, like you mentioned,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: it was 10% of pressure. They double teamed Abdul Carter
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: basically the whole game. And then Brian Burns, another guy
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: who got injured, was just quiet, right? And that was
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: kind of my worry with Burns is coming off that
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: 16-sack season. I'm like, I don't know if he's consistently
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: getting after it. Will he be able to keep this up?
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: It's been a quiet time for him. Kayvon isn't there.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: But like, The secondary, they have one player who's not
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: a below-average player in Javon Hall.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: He's the only one.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: The linebacker, Reese, has looked like a rookie. The run
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: game is going to be weak with the defensive tackles.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: That's supposed to be their one strength. And the Rams
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: did a good job to marginalize it, but to get
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: basically nothing out of it except for one Abdul-Kardasak and
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: a Brian Burns hit, you can't live like that, especially
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: against Stafford, who will just dice you up.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Bobby, if I told you before this season, I know
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: today is a tough day.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I know you're dealing with injuries. I know Jameis is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterback now. It's a roller coaster. You have no
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: idea if he's going to be good or bad week
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to week. But if I told you before this season, hey, Cowboys, Rams,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you'll start 1-1.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Would you take it?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Like 100% of the time. The issue is if you said, hey,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: you start 1-1, now you've got Titans, Cardinals, Commanders, Saints.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: But Jackson Dart may be injured for that stretch. Then
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, I'll take 0-2 going into that
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: stretch if he's healthy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: So that's the thing that throws. One and one.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not mourning last night's loss a ton. The defensive issues,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I think those showed against the Rams. I want them
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: to be good against bad quarterbacks this year. It's a
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: low bar. But not having Dart for this stretch, that's
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: where it's like, all right, if you don't come out
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: of this four-game stretch on the right side of that,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: and you're Three and three, three and four. Well, then
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: it's just a rough sledding for the, you know, tough sledding.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: For the Giants.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Meaning the schedule gets tough after these four games, right?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then you get the Texans. And obviously things change
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: year to year. And, you know, another team's quarterback will
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: get injured. But this whole schedule has been looking at
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: these four games. They're like, take care of these four games.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: If you go into one-on-one, then you're playing with a
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: little bit of house money. But now it's like, all right, like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: will the Giants be favored in these games? With without
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Jackson Dart, I don't know. But these four games are
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: so important because if you don't if you don't have
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: a winning record in these four, you're screwed going forward.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Bobby, what's your concern level with Malik neighbors? Because, I mean,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: it was questionable whether he was going to play week one.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Then he plays through it, doesn't have a great game
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: that he plays week two. He gets hurt with his shoulder,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: comes back in the game. But he just he doesn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: look like the record breaking receiver we all expect him
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, short term, I felt like Trent McDuffie kind
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: of handled him fairly well. Short term, yeah. But long term,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I'm expecting Malik Nabors to be that same guy. stud
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: that he was beforehand. I mean, like how many torn
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: ACLs have become pretty common? How often is a year
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: three player where it's like, yeah, his career has been
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: totally taken off the rails by that. Now, again, it's
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: a slow buildup back to that. I think he'll eventually
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: be back to that. But yeah, last night was rough.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, one catch, one yard. And it felt like
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: they wasn't getting any targets on like normal wide receivers,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: one stuff. And he didn't look, you know, his best either.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: So long term, I'm not stressed about Malik Neighbors. I'm
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: more so worried about like getting through this season and
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: him wanting a new contract probably and not being in
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: a situation where you're choosing sides and he's not happy
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: with this. Like that's why it's so important for the
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Giants to win with Malik Neighbors. because that's what will
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: make him happy long-term.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: When you ranked the backup quarterbacks before the season started,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: which is a genius idea, by the way, and one
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I might steal, but when you did it, where did
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Jameis rank for you guys in terms of best backup
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL?
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I'm going to pull up my notes.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is so exciting.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Game week mailbag 2020. So number one was the Raiders.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: So whether that's Fernando Mendoza or Kirk Cousins.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: All right, just stop right there real quick. Do you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: agree that both of those guys are better than Justin Herbert?
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Justin Herbert? Yes.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I haven't really paid attention to the Chargers. Is it
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: really that bad in Charger land right now?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It's so bad that I asked you that question. Yes,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that's how bad it is.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say no. I'm just going to pretend
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: these last two weeks didn't happen. I didn't really watch
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: them closely. I'm a Herbert fan, but he is a
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: certified playoff joker. I had whoever's the Raiders back at one.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I put Jameis two, Joe Flacco three, Matt Jones four,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor five. I would put Jameis down to five
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: after week two. So maybe I'll update this every week.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: I still got them above Justin Fields and Marcus Mariota.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, please update it every week. I'll have you on
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: every week if you update it every single week, okay? Seriously.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I like the idea of that type of segment, just
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: every week. You'll love this. I do a Giants practice
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: squad power rankings every week. Every week I update the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: power rankings for the Giants practice squad.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Listen, I will have you on.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: We can promote the practice squad and the rankings there
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: as long as you bring your backup quarterback rankings as well, okay?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I've got to be honest. The practice squad is a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: bit too much, all right?
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Okay. Hit me with a random number, and I'll tell
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: you who was in there.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Where was Drew Locke?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Ooh, so now I've dealt with Drew Locke being terrible.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: I see I had him.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I had him 17. I think I'd move him up to, like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: nine after these first couple games.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I think you'd probably move him up to number one
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: after these first couple of games, no?
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Mikey? I don't know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's got a decent situation. I've seen
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Drew Locke at his worst.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're right.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: That's probably clouding my judgment a little bit.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Bobby, we give out an award on the show called
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: the Floaty for the backup quarterback who keeps his team
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: afloat long enough.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: For the And Drew Locke is running away with this
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: award right now.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, right now.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping Jameis can take the reins over the next
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Floating for the floating.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, you can steal that idea if you like it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: You give Jameis a floaty, put it on his arm,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: he keeps you afloat.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I've become addicted to making trophies. We do like fan
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: listener of the year. We give one to the best
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Giants beat reporter of the year named after Kadarius Toney.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So I might have to, if I budget the trophy,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I'll get in on that. I need a vote by
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: the end of the year.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out a number in a second here,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: but I just want to know who's number one right
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: now in the Giants practice squad.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Just out of curiosity. I don't know.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Braxton Barrios. It's not fair because he's actually on the
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: roster and they're using the practice squad elevations. But for
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: guys that are not actually on the roster, because Malik
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Harris is number two, Kingsley Aguacan, the center, he was
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the backup center for the Lions last year. And with
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: JMS as bad as he's been, he might end up
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: playing this year.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Number 13, your 13th best backup quarterback headed into the
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: NFL season this year.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Uh, Gardner Minshew right after Josh Dobbs and before Anthony Richardson.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mike.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I have to know 32. Yes.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: The worst.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Jason Daniels, brother, Jalen Daniels for the bucks. I mean,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: he was not very good at Kansas and he's a rookie. Um,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: so I had him at 32. All right.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Who's better than him? Who's 31.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I put Stetson Bennett. Like I kind of, Don't like
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Stetson Bennett at all.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: So, and he'll end up losing that backup job eventually,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the Ty Simpson. But him being it over Ty Simpson
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: might even rank him higher. Like, well, what do they see?
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: That we don't.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: All right. And you re-rank these every single week? I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: love that you do this.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I don't, but I'm going to start.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Yes. Okay.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: So we'll have you on next week.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Because it could change in an instant.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: You realize that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Like Stafford, you get hurt next week and Stetson Bennett
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: comes in and he lights someone up and all of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: a sudden Stetson Bennett's the best backup.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: In the league, you know?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I think I have Jameis Winston at 32 right now. Yeah.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Well, the worst backup who I've seen play, because it's
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: not fair to the guys who haven't played, is Trey Lance.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fair.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: So the worst that has actually played in the NFL,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Trey Lance.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Is there anything in your life that you love more
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: than football?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Not my wife, I guess.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: You had to think about it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: You know, my wife, I like auto racing and my
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: family and then football after that, you know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: How has John Harbaugh been received by the New York
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Giant fan base?
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're all in. Obviously, you lose your first
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: game and you get your first taste of any negativity. Now,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: that's the case with any new head coach. Any new
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: head coach gets crowned as like, oh, he does everything
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: better than the last guy. But at least with Harbaugh,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: you have something to buy in in that week one game.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I do think it meant something. So the fan base
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: is all in. And you guys know the Giants' issues, man.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: They're deep-rooted. It's not just bad coach, bad defensive line,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: or bad linebacker group like They've got deep-rooted issues because
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: they just keep everyone there working since the 90s.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: And Harbaugh's, like, coming in and, like, kind of shaking
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: that up a little bit.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: When things get tough, like they did last night, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you're sad and you're upset, do you ever just, like,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: look over to the Jets and be like, oh, okay,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I feel better now, you know?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I used to, but it's been such a bad 10 years.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Like, it's become... Now, again, I'm excited for this year.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not giving up.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: But.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I was at the charity softball game this summer where
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: it's like the Giants-Legends versus the current players.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: And I was looking over at Rich Soybird and Sean
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: O'Hara and those guys. I'm like, man, this was a
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: long time ago.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: These guys aren't going.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: To be able to play softball in a handful of years.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: That's what gets me depressed as a Giants fan is
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: when I see the memories of I'm like, man, that
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: is becoming a long, long time ago now.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Bobby, what I'm saying is at least you
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: have memories. That's fair. That's fair.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Well, I grew up a champion, you know what I mean?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, of course.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: When I first became a sports fan, the Giants were
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: going to Super Bowls. Even the Nets went to back-to-back championships.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: The Devils were winning Stanley Cups. The Yankees were, you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: the dynasty.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: And then as an adult, it's just been miserable.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Right. I grew up a loser, and I'm still a loser.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. At least you had some good times.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: We had none, right?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Bobby, we appreciate it. Giants Nation Pod is where you
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: can check them out. Check out his podcast wherever you
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: get your podcasts. We'll have you on next week. I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: want practice squad rankings combined with backup quarterback rankings.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: We'll do it every single week. I swear to you,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I will. It's my favorite topic.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Absolutely. Jameis needs to have a strong performance to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: keep that up.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, he can get up to number one. Yes, you
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: never know. He can get up to number one next week.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: We'll see if he does it. Yep. All right. Have
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: some faith, Bobby. It's okay. You're not a Jets fan.