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Valve's Hardware, Steam Box, Metroid Prime 4 Beyond, & Game Informer's Perfect 10's · Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the Boxers Podcast, a great
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place to play games and be better.
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I'm one of your hosts, Corey Derrigan.
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Alongside me, as always, is PC Muscle Race himself, LA Ron
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Dawkins. Hey, what's popping?
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Hey, La Ron. What's up, Corey?
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Hey, La Ron, guess what? What?
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What we had 1000, We had 1000 Subs.
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What? On YouTube.
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Thousands, 1000. Yep 1K unless that just means
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like 11 kid subscribe I don't know.
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All right, so so now what it should be.
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Now what? I don't know.
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Now we play the game. Do you ever see South Park?
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That's the portal. Warcraft.
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I've never seen, I've never seen that episode of South Park.
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You're talking that you did you just.
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Those are the Those are the 2 best episodes speak of seeing.
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We almost see. I swear of all the movies and
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television, you don't watch you, you watch South.
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Park, I haven't watched South Park in forever, but I'm saying
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when that episode came out in like 2010, I was watching South
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Park and that was a really funny episode.
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So anyways, Speaking of 2010, also here's PK Power Pat Klein.
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Yeah, those were the good days. What?
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Were you doing in 2010? I was working at a bank in 2010.
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What? Bank, you say?
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A bank? A bank?
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Was it a bank 2010? No, wait.
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No. Yes.
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No, I was ending the bank career and going back to school.
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Back to. School back to school that's
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where I. Was I was I was in between going
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ending a bank career and going back to school so that I could
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actually get a real job. Nice, nice, nice, cool.
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Well, hey, look, look who it is. Look who's in the chat.
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It's that. It's that Nick guy from WAC and
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beyond. Oh.
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Oh, oh, Nick, you want to join us?
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You want to join us? That's one of the topics
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tonight. You want to join us?
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Wait, HL3 imminent? What does that mean?
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Half Life 3. Half Life 3.
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Keep dreaming. Come on, Nick.
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It's never. Come on, Nick.
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Crash the show. Crash the show.
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It's never coming out. Half Life 3 doesn't exist.
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It's never coming out. They're lying to you.
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Plus Gabe dies. Gabe Gabe only lets his internal
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employees play Half Life 3. We don't want Gabe.
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To die. No, Gabe is providing, you know,
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Gabe is Gabe is Gabe is doing the doing the work.
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Speaking of work. To me, Gabe is kind of like the
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JRR, the George RR Martin of the the game world.
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Why? Cuz he works like him.
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Well, there's a bit of that, and also the fact that, you know, he
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started off these really big projects that he's never going
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to finish and instead works more on the publishing side now.
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Well, he makes more money doing the other thing.
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Exactly. But you know, that wasn't what
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made him famous. Yeah, well, you know what made
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him famous is he left Microsoft. Yeah, that's what made him Van
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mean. Still, man, these guys can learn
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to finish their duties, the things that they owe to the
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public. He said duty.
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Yep, I did say duty. Yep.
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Anyways, Speaking of duty, it is our duty to talk about video
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games, talk about what we've been playing.
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Pat, I'm asking you first, what have you been playing?
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You ask, Well, have I been playing?
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Yeah, Well, I have played a few games.
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So I'm really, I've actually beat three games over the last
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week. I'm quite proud of myself.
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What did you what did you? I beat dispatch, the last two
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episodes came out and that game was freaking amazing.
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I highly recommend if you ever liked the Telltale game, give
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this game a shot. This is it is a joy to play and
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I loved the ending that I got. It felt perfect with the choices
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that I made and I wish I I remember looking at this during
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the Metacritic draft. I'm like should I go for this
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one? I don't know and I regret not
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going for it. It's not only because that it is
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getting like 90s right now. I'm Metacritic, so cool.
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Great game, nice game. That's that Telltale style
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episodic thing, right? I heard it was better though.
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It's good. Like it, it's it's hilarious.
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I mean, it's got a lot of humor, adult humor.
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It's got some good emotional storytelling.
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The characters are like phenomenal.
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They work well with each other for being a bunch of like misfit
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superheroes and it just wraps everything up perfectly.
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It is a great game. Nice, nice.
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I think if anyone's oh, go ahead.
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I was just I was just going to say it's loaded on my it's it's
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loaded on my wrong ally. But but right now, like Font
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Fancy Tactics has it's hooks deep in me, like I'm getting
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into the, I'm getting into the meta right now, the meta.
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I mean dispatch isn't a very long game, you could probably
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beat in like 6 to 8 hours. Yeah, yeah, I've, yeah, I've
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heard. Yeah, I might actually, I might
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actually take a break this and play it this weekend.
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Just just straight front to back play it.
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I mean if you think if you think Final Fantasy Tactics can hook
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your claws until you dispatch. I think the episodic format for
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dispatch works insanely well for it.
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Like it treats itself like it's ATV show, so you'll have like
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episodes kind of end on like those little cliffhanger moments
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and where you just kind of want to pick up the next episode to
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continue on to see what happens. Nice.
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And the and the episodes are pretty.
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The episodes are pretty. They're not longest, right?
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Yeah. No, no, the the thing that makes
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them nice and short is the fact that other than the dispatch
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game inside of it all, the all the game is cutscenes with you
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making choices or QTE events which you can disable if you
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don't want to do that. Instead of like where tell tales
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you kind of explore it and like check things out and stuff.
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You don't do that in this game, so it cuts out a little bit of
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that fluff, but I think it works to its advantage because when
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you're not in the actual dispatch game, which I
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personally enjoyed, I've heard some people are like, eh, they'd
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rather just have focus on the story.
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But I felt like the dispatch game like were fun little
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puzzles and trying to figure out who you wanted to put and send
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off to whatever crime that was going on in hopes that their
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stats would be where the the little random indicator is going
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to hit to say whether or not you succeeded.
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But the story is just phenomenal and your choices really do
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matter in the game. From my understanding, there are
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about 6 main endings with variations on it depending on
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choices that you make throughout the game.
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Interesting. I've I've heard good things.
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I've heard good things. I.
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I speak good things. I speak good things, I might
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give it a shot. You're playing that on what
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PlayStation I'm assuming? Yep, it's PlayStation and PC
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only. Yeah, kind of surprising, but I.
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Unless the success of this game is nice.
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Yeah, no, this game is too successful that I we will see it
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hit the other systems guaranteed as well as a physical release
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sometime in 2026. It's when you hit like over a
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million players in like 10 days on something of a brand new IP
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of this kind of style, that's that's a success.
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Yeah, it definitely is. Other games.
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Yep. I finished power wash simulator
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2 and I platinumed it. Also another freaking amazing
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game. Perfect Zen game.
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Can't wait for the DLC. Nice.
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But I also worked on. Yep, I also finished one of my
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backlog. Won my backlog games I said I
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was going to work on this year, Dragon Quest 3.
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Finally after 20 plus years since the Game Boy Color version
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came out, I finally beat it. Oh OK, check it off my list.
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Nice. I will say it's probably my
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least favorite Dragon Quest out of the entire series, but the
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remake at least did a very good job at adding some new stuff to
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it and making it look very pretty.
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But it's still in my opinion the weakest of the series.
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But I love how they tied it into the other ones or into one and
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two, like they they added some little more like from what I
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understand, and and in one and two, like they added some more
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elements that kind of knit all three of them together in a more
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coherent trilogy. So.
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The Three is the first game in the trilogy, right?
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Technically. Yep, Yep.
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Yeah, so that's why they came out with three first and then
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one and two. So that's kind of the order.
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All three of them take place. All three of them have that
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continent called Elf Guard, which is shared among all, all
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of them. So that's kind of the tie in.
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And now they have like a chronological event going on
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where the hero and three is the legendary hero from, you know,
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one that everyone speaks of. And then 2 is, I want to say
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it's like 100 years later, but I can't remember exactly how many
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years later. And then finally, I picked up
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SpongeBob Titan of the Tides today because I secretly really
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like the SpongeBob, SpongeBob platform games.
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And this is actually a really fun one.
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It's a, it's a course got the classic SpongeBob humor.
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It's got it's very pretty. I like that you can now switch
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between SpongeBob and Patrick on the fly and that each one kind
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of has their own unique abilities to use on the map.
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So it encourages you to use them both.
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OK, things like Patrick can like Burrow under the ground and like
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unlock like either like dislodge treasures that are stuck there
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or kind of go into these like little underground holes that
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shoot them up where SpongeBob has a karate kick that allows
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them to go flying and hitting faraway obstacles are like 2 of
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the different abilities that they have.
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The world's themselves, they're kind.
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They have like quests going on. They feel it's a good mix of
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like openness in the zone, but very level focused as well.
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I would probably relate it to cloak maybe a little bit like a
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Mario Odyssey in that regard. Just 'cause once you're done,
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you can just kind of explore at your pace of that particular
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zone and get all the, the treasure chests and the side
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quests and the the jellyfish and all the other little things that
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you can find there. But it's been, it's been good so
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far. Nice, cool.
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Yep, that's what I got. Nice, Laurent, what about you?
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Well, I mentioned I mentioned one of them earlier.
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That would be fun. Fancy tactics, the remake.
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I am definitely stalled right now because I'm still playing
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the game, but I am stalled on doing on making progress in
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chapter 2 because because I forgot I forgot like there's
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what are they called? They're called request the not
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the bounty system. What is it?
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When you can send, when you can send, when you can send your
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character, when you can send your your troops out expeditions
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send them out. You send them out for XYZ amount
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of days and and you and you just got to do something, you know,
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like run the map or what not and then and then come back to the
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Tavern and get them to report. When they report, they wind up
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getting special items and stuff like that.
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You know, it also gives them a slight boost on their stats and
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all this stuff. And I forgot that when you go
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from chapter to chapter, a lot of those, a lot of those
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expeditions go away. So now I'm stuck in chapter 2.
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Try not to progress the story too much because I have like, I
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have like 6 characters I'm trying to raise right now in
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certain levels, which means I have to go through the, I have
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to go through the, the, the job classes and all that stuff to
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get them the right way. Because certain, because
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certain, certain expeditions you need certain job classes.
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Like there's, there's one that you need, that you need orders
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for it. There's, there's another one you
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need, you need summoners. What they, what the hook with a
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hook character being so basically like send 2 summoners
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out. And I think, I think a hook
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character is like, is like a, the, the white mage, stuff like
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that, you know, and this, this guarantees our success.
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The cool thing is though, like you, you know, like if you fail
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the, if you fail the expedition, like you can just start it back
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over, you know, but I'm trying to do it in one shot because
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I've, I've got enough on my plate right now and I'm trying
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to progress through the game. I feel like, I feel like this
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game is doing what it has always done to me, which I've always
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enjoyed. And that's sucking my time,
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which I'm not complaining about it, but I'm like, man, I, I I
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want to move on to other games. So, so yeah, I need to do that.
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But like I said, I probably will take the weekend off in tactics
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and you just and you dispatch because yeah, I bought the last
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week after Pat was talking about it.
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Like I went ahead and bought the I went ahead and spent $30 and,
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and and bought it and just waited for the, and was waiting
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for all the episodes to finally release.
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And then and then back in the swing on Tekken, Tekken 8.
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You know, I feel like, I feel like it's, I feel like it's like
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a like like, like that. So that's their comfort game.
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I think I think it is starting to my comfort game.
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OK, so I was, I was, I was on YouTube a couple of days ago
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and, and I was watching something, you know, like
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basically about how, how to get better at games and stuff like
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that. And Tekken wound up being, and
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Tekken and fighting games wound up being one of the one of the
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the topics, you know, about games that, you know, like
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people, people like, you know, work their asses off to get to
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get good at them and stuff like that.
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Or, or not good, but better. You know, I'm not going to say
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good, because there's only there's only a small amount like
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of elite that are like, they're like, you know, the best, you
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know, those are the people we always see on the on the on the
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E sports circuits, you know, and also everybody else is everybody
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else is above average to excellent, you know, stuff like
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that. You know, and it was funny how
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they broke it down. Like, you know, like for, for
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certain, for certain types of games.
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When you look at like like E sports games, like fighting
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games, RTSS, Dotas, all those a lot of people, a lot of people
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basically, you know, they, they, they do log a lot of hours
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playing the game, but the second-half of their hours, the
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second-half of their of their time in is looking at resources,
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particularly YouTube. Like so like, let's say, let's
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say you, let's say you, let's say you spend, you spend you
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know what, actually, where's my, let me, let me open up steam
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real fast here. Steam will tell me exactly how
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long, how long I've been, how many hours I've put in the
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Tekken 8, and this is since it since the game came out.
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I have played 455.3 hours of Tekken 8 since this game came
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out. This game came this game.
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When did this game release? This game released and it
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released like it released like a year and a half ago.
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Like it's it's not a new game. It's not a new game because
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we're in the second season pass now for this game.
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Wait, yeah, second season pass for this game.
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Yeah, yeah. It's.
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About as many hours as I put into power Power Watch Simulator
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2. Yeah, yeah, so, but yeah, but my
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actual, my actual time to vote the Tekken is a lot more than
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455 hours. Because like the one of the
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things I do is, is I I watch YouTube videos, I'm on websites
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looking at you know, like looking at like, you know, like
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stats and stuff, you know, to try and get to try and get
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better like, you know, from frame data to like how to
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properly punish with certain characters and stuff like that.
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So I would say honestly, like, and I wish YouTube had like, I
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wish YouTube had a thing that you could kind of like go in
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there and look at your, you look at your personal analytics and
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like what you watch and stuff like that.
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I guarantee you like it's by 455 hours of play time on the game
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added with like the time that I would spend the time I spend
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like watching videos, looking, doing strategies, figuring
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things out and stuff like that. I probably have more like like
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not 900 hours. I probably would say I have
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somewhere in the realm of 750 hours, you know, total, because
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like, you know, in my idle time, like, you know, one of the
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things I have one of the things I do is like I have like, like
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whenever I'm like at work at my desk and stuff, I'll have
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YouTube open and I'll have like match you, you guys have seen
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that. Like when we're getting ready
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for podcasts and stuff like that, I'm like, oh, whoa, oh,
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down forward one, all this stuff.
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I'm watching a fight, a fight video, like watching stuff to
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see, you know, what works and what I should stop doing because
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guess what? I make some very bone headed
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mistakes when I play when I play Tekken.
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Actually, when I play any game, I make boneheaded mistakes.
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It doesn't matter if it's Tekken, Monster Hunter, Final
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Fantasy, it does not matter. Metal Gear Solid, you know, it
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doesn't matter. But yeah, so yeah.
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So yeah, I've, I've logged a lot of hours.
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I I don't think I can rival like like Patrick or Stoy in like the
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simulator games, but I've I've logged a lot of.
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Hours in certain games. Nice, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, I didn't. Hear you there.
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Yeah, so, so, yeah, that's what I'm playing.
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I've last week I talked about that, that show Boots, which
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basically follows like a falls, like a falls like a gay kid
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that, that that enlisted the Marine Corps during the height
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of don't ask, don't tell. Like I have, I have two episodes
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left to finish this, to finish the show.
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I kind of I kind of took my time watching it.
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It's only 8 episodes long. So I could have, I literally
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could have finished it in the weekend, but I didn't want to do
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that. Like I want to like absorb it
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this like that. So I'm almost done with that.
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And my my pickup, which I mentioned a few minutes ago,
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like my pickup is dispatch, which I'm going to devote some
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time to it this this weekend. Nice.
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Can't wait to hear what you have to say about.
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It yeah, like that's that's definitely going to be it's all
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my rock alley loaded up right now.
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Like I'm, I'm going to be like just laid out just playing that
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game. And no, I'm not going to turn
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the QT events off. I think that's one of the things
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that makes these type of games like, like fun.
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Like, you know, like from, from Heavy Rain to Detroit Become
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Human to Wolf Among Us, you know, like I, I love the QT
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events in these types of games. Yeah.
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You know, the QT ES aren't super complicated, not like heavy rain
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Detroit kind of QT ES like these are pretty simple.
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OK, good. They just got.
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It's it's more. The only issue?
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Is more to make sure you've been paying attention.
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Yeah, that, that's the thing. You, you, you might accidentally
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just be kind of focused on what's going on and all of a
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sudden it'll just pop up and you're like, holy crap.
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And you know, yeah, that that final, the final fight scene or
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the the fight and the final episode had me do that several
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times where I'm just like watching everything that's going
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on on the screen. But then sometimes prompts pop
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up and it's like Yikes. Oh boy, hurry.
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Type them in. Oh, boy.
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OK, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm excited. I'm.
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Well, I mean, I knew I wanted to play the game when I saw the,
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when I saw one, the original, when I saw the original reveal
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trailer for it. But then it was just one of
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those situations where I was like where I was like, I
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actually forgot that the game was coming until it dropped.
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I think a lot of people did, yeah.
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Yeah. So, so yeah, that's that's
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that's everything that I've got going on this past week in a
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nutshell. In a nutshell, he says, well, I
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guess that means it's my turn, huh?
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I've been playing Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment.
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I'm enjoying myself. It's not like the best game I've
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ever played, but like I feel like it's the game I needed
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right now because it's a game you can kind of pay attention
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to, like the story parts, but then turn your mind off while
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you're kind of just mashing the Y&X buttons.
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It's it's cool. I really like the story elements
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of it. I like playing as a different
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characters in the Zelda universe, at least this version
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of it. I still think the Zonai are
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weird looking creatures, but they are powerful.
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Long arms and tiny legs. They're just like bipedal goat
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people and it bothers. Me, we are Kragen Sir dragon
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goat like people. But I do really, I really like
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the the story elements, especially the the Koroc that
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you play as. At one point, I forget what his
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name is, Calamo, I think his name is.
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And he travels around with the zone I construct and they just
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kind of fight together, which is kind of cool.
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And there's two kind of parallel stories going on at the same
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time, which is. Cool calamo, just like OP.
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Yeah, just like what? He's a Koroc.
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Like I'm taking down these giant big sludgy bocablin monsters and
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like I just jump on a mushroom and then, you know, do like
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essentially Final Fantasy attacks on him.
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Like, I don't know, man, it's it's kind of funny, but it's
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it's fun. I'm enjoying it.
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I, it makes me want to go back and play Breath of the Wild in
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Tears of the Kingdom again, honestly.
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But it also makes me want like a Zelda game, like a, like a full
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on Zelda game where you play as Zelda.
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Because I think her abilities that you start kind of unlocking
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throughout the campaign are really interesting, like the
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light campaign or the light magic.
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And basically she wields a yellow lightsaber, essentially.
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So she's basically a Jedi. Confirmed.
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Zelda and Star Wars, same universe.
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So, you know, But yeah, that's kind of it.
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I've also been playing more Star Wars Outlaws and Plants for
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Zombies, but I don't really know how much more I can say about
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that. I also played a bunch of games
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with my kids like Mario Kart and Mario Party, and that's been
26:14
interesting, but it's kind of it.
26:21
So yeah, I think, I think we're going to try to do a spoiler
26:26
cast on Hyrule Warriors, but we are, we got to finish it first,
26:34
so we'll see. Took at 4 1/2 years to be Breath
26:37
of the Wild so I'm not counting on it, but.
26:42
Well, well, I never started, so that means, so that means
26:44
technically I, I, you know, like the clock hasn't started ticking
26:48
for me yet. Yeah, well I'm also possibly
26:53
planning a spoiler cast for DIS dispatch.
26:58
I already got two people who won in on it if.
27:00
Yeah, depending on depending on your date and if I and if I can
27:04
commit to my word like I will, I will, I will try to be on with
27:07
you for that one. Yeah, no, I would like to try
27:11
and do it within the next like somewhere in this month is what
27:17
I would like to do. Nice.
27:22
So. Do it, do it, do it.
27:29
All right, well, let's let's move on here.
27:34
Let's talk about the Steam ecosystem expanding into the
27:41
Steam Box and the Steam Frame and the Steam Controller to live
27:46
beside the Steam Deck and Steam on PC, Valve unveiled 3 major
27:54
hardware devices launching in early 2026.
27:57
The Steam Machine Steam Box Compact Cube, 6 times more
28:04
powerful than the Steam Deck, apparently with 4K60 capability
28:08
and the full Steam Library support.
28:12
The Steam Controller has touch pads similar to the the Steam
28:19
Deck and it has magnetic thumb sticks in the Steam Frame, which
28:24
is a lightweight VR headset that you can either plug into APC or
28:29
wear wirelessly. So La Ron, I'm going your way.
28:35
First this let's let's start with this Steam Box because
28:38
that's kind of like the primary thing I want to talk about,
28:42
especially since it seems to be doing exactly what Microsoft's
28:47
been trying to do for like 2 years now and it just kind of
28:50
did it without trying essentially.
28:55
Yeah, in terms of building like a hardware around a digital
28:59
ecosystem instead of a games for a hardware essentially.
29:04
Yeah, of course, of course I'd, you know, like I try to look at
29:11
the stats and based on based on I feel like they're like the
29:15
more leaks than like concrete things.
29:17
Right now it looks like AI would say it's like AI would say it's
29:22
APS 5 Lite. If I were to make a comparison
29:25
like like, you know, like what console it, it definitely sits
29:27
around it. Definitely it definitely for the
29:30
most part, like you know, is doing a few things better than
29:33
the Xbox Series consoles, but that's not saying a whole lot,
29:37
you know, 'cause the Xbox Series consoles are pretty, are pretty
29:39
beefy. Well the X is but but some of
29:43
the things that kind of like when.
29:44
You when you say PS-5 Lite do you mean PS-5 Pro Lite or just
29:48
original PS-5 Lite? The original PS-5 Lite OK, so so
29:54
let's see you know like we don't know what we don't know what
29:56
processors going to have all it says is a semi custom AM DAMD
30:00
Zen 466 core 12 thread processor.
30:04
I mean, you know, so I can tell you, I can tell you APC
30:08
processor that that's that's relative to that, you know, by
30:11
AMD. By the way, it's got a RDNA 3.
30:15
Like I, I know, I know a lot of people out there going to gloss
30:18
over this stuff. RDNA 3 is basically is basically
30:25
AI can't remember which generation it is.
30:27
I'm so sorry, but it's it's comparable to like it's
30:30
comparable to like the Ryzen, the actual Ryzen graphics chips,
30:34
they're actually on the CP us. So so there there's that here's
30:42
the thing that here's the thing that that already worries me 8
30:45
gigabytes of GDDR 6V RAM. OK, so like I said, this is
30:50
comparable to APS 5 Lite because APS 5, if I'm not mistaken, has
30:56
12 gigs of of of VRAM. As a matter of fact, let me let
31:02
me pull it up right now. I'm sorry, 16 gigs of VRAM.
31:06
I was, I was, I was I I cut it by 1/4.
31:10
Yeah. Ram's what allows the system to
31:14
kind of guess what you're going to do and load based on that or?
31:18
There, yeah, that, that that's the main, that's the main part.
31:21
It preloads all the textures and stuff like that.
31:22
So the game just keeps chugging without it.
31:24
Actually without. Remember the Nintendo slow down
31:28
that stuff, Yeah. Yeah, I played the Switch.
31:35
Now the other thing that the other thing that's kind of
31:36
bothersome is it's got 16 gigs of 16 gigs of regular RAM for
31:42
all the processing and all that stuff.
31:43
I find that kind of weird because the, the, the portable
31:48
handhelds, the PC handhelds are all coming out with 24 gigs.
31:51
So why'd they hold themselves back on that one?
31:55
To make it more cost effective maybe.
31:58
And, and as per the course with with with, with Steam, with
32:02
Valve and Steam now with their with their hardware, there'll be
32:05
a 512 gigabyte model as well as a two terabyte model available.
32:13
And he's running Steam OS, you know which, which is the bee's
32:16
knees as far as like, you know, all the stuff going on, right?
32:20
Yeah, I am said that the VM is at least not 12 or higher, 12
32:24
gigs of RAM or higher because because like the consoles, the
32:28
series, the Series X as well as the PS-5, you know, are all are
32:33
all like doing 16 gigs of RAM and it acts VRAM.
32:36
And that actually set the standard for for actually it
32:40
pretty much set the standard for PC gaming.
32:43
Like because because like developers started making these
32:45
games and they're making them specced out to the consoles.
32:48
So the consoles were demanding upwards of 16 gigs of VRAM and
32:53
so like us guys with like, you know, cards that you know, were,
32:56
were were not beefy and had and weren't and were less than 16
32:59
gigs of RAM. PCPC gamers started having
33:03
problems playing these games. And it wasn't just because of
33:05
optimization options, you know, so like that, you know, so I'm
33:09
so I'm very shocked. I feel like I don't know, like
33:13
we don't even know the price point.
33:15
But I'm wondering if the, I'm wonder if they're trying to keep
33:17
this like, you know, an affordable price, which I feel
33:19
like it's not going to, I feel like it's not going to be that
33:22
affordable. I mean.
33:25
I mean, I feel, I feel like the 512 will be the quote UN quote
33:28
affordable one and then the two terabyte one will be like the
33:30
premium one, right? Because, like, you know, yeah.
33:38
Yeah. So, so my thoughts on it is that
33:41
I I like the design. I like the design, but I got to
33:46
take a wait and see attitude because because I'm glad I took
33:49
a wait and see attitude with the Xbox, with the Xbox Raw Gali X.
33:54
I'm glad I took a wait and see attitude in that one because
33:56
like I was legit and regularly take my money.
33:58
And yeah, no, I'm glad I didn't. Yeah, but I do like the design.
34:04
And you know what I got to say, You know, I feel like it's
34:07
pretty poetic that Microsoft, Microsoft is like, oh, we're
34:10
slowing down on we're slowing down on being in the console biz
34:15
and Valve and Valve's like, here I come to save the day.
34:19
I know that's crazy. I think I think it's crazy that
34:26
like Valve is just like, I don't know, I feel like I feel like
34:32
there's been so much hate for Microsoft lately, not just Xbox,
34:36
but Microsoft in general. You know, like I know people are
34:39
like really sick of Windows and we saw Apple laptops kind of
34:48
spike in the last quarter as opposed.
34:52
I mean, Windows is still ahead if you want to count that way,
34:56
but like, people are just really sick of dealing with Windows.
35:03
And, you know, Xbox is not really great at this messaging
35:09
thing. And it seems like they're taking
35:10
forever to do the thing that they want to do.
35:14
And, you know, I, I, it just really feels like Valve and Sony
35:19
are beating them to the punch, right?
35:21
Like here's our ecosystem, here's our devices that you can
35:25
play on, you know, that, you know, their engagement devices,
35:29
they're not necessarily like, you know, I mean, I don't think
35:31
Valve expects to sell 100 million units of this, of this
35:35
Steam Box, right? But like, yeah, I'm sure they
35:39
want to sell like I'm sure if they sell like 10 million of
35:42
them, they'll be happy, right? Because it's an additive device.
35:45
It's not necessarily a, you know, meant to, you know, be the
35:53
next entry into the console market, but I think it does
35:58
entice a lot of people who are like looking to abandon the Xbox
36:02
ecosystem, a reason to, you know, move into the PC this.
36:07
Is there like this? Is there a moment to jump ship?
36:10
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to jump ship, you're either going
36:12
to choose this or, or or PlayStation, right?
36:15
And like you're going to serve one of those ecosystems.
36:17
And then if you are a Nintendo fan, you'll have a Switch,
36:20
obviously, but like, that's not doing the same thing.
36:26
So yeah, I mean, I think Valve is doing something really just
36:31
crazy. I was, I was crazy.
36:35
I think it's genius. I think they're.
36:37
Well, I mean, yeah, I know, but I mean, I I don't, I mean, I
36:40
don't mean crazy bad. I just think it's like, man,
36:43
they're they're just really like Gabe must really hate Microsoft.
36:50
I know that's not true, but that's it.
36:52
Just feels like every rake that Microsoft has stepped on
36:57
recently. Either Valve or Sony are there
37:00
to like like I. Like I said, like I said, every
37:03
rake because it definitely feels like it definitely feels like
37:06
every. Dude, it's like, it's like a,
37:08
it's like a fucking Tom and Jerry cartoon.
37:10
Like he runs around the corner and he thinks he's got this
37:14
great thing, and then he steps on a rake and then there's
37:16
another one. And then there's another one.
37:18
Or there's a shovel or, you know, like Wiley Coyote running
37:21
into the mountain with the painting on it because he thinks
37:23
the Roadrunner is running through it.
37:24
You know, like, it's insane how dumb.
37:30
I don't know, man. I don't know.
37:33
Pat, What do you think? What do you think of this thing?
37:36
I mean, I, I think it's going to be really overpriced for
37:41
starters. Like, I given the fact that
37:44
it's, you know, it's got the Steam name to it, I would say
37:48
this thing's going to be at least between 800 to $1000.
37:55
And based on what La Ron was saying, it's probably not going
37:59
to be worth it in that regard. Yeah, price, price wise, yeah, I
38:05
will say that I don't, I, I'm not going to say it's not worth
38:07
it, but I don't know, like like there's a there's a, there's a
38:12
part of me, there's a part of me that takes it seriously, but
38:15
there's also a part of me that's like, I already have APCI,
38:18
already have a PlayStation Five. I already have a Switch, I
38:22
already have a raw galley. What else you know?
38:27
You don't want the PC gaming experience in the living room.
38:32
Hey, I can just hook my PC up to my damn to my damn television.
38:38
Yeah, that's probably another thing that I'm kind of worried
38:42
about this. What's the interface or like,
38:46
how's it going to work? Is this meant to like draw
38:49
people who play consoles to try and get into PC gaming?
38:53
I, I Yeah. It is.
38:54
It falls back to the operating system.
38:58
Are we working with the Windows versus?
39:00
Are we working with something that you just boot up and hear
39:03
your library of games? Oh, it's, it's, it's going to be
39:06
it's going to be running on a on a newer version of the Steam OS
39:08
that's on the Steam Deck. That, that we can, that we know
39:11
for sure, like, you know, like a everyone, everyone, everyone
39:15
complaints about Microsoft, you know, you know, on these PC
39:18
handhelds, I don't have a fucking problem with it.
39:21
But what do I know? I just, I just work in the IT
39:24
business. So, you know, like I, I, I know
39:26
enough about the nuances, you know, of, of, of Microsoft
39:29
stuff, you know, like, yeah, yeah, I use the Xbox experience
39:32
on my, on my ROG Ally, you know, but at the same time, at the
39:36
same time, I, I don't, I don't fucking care.
39:38
Like there's a part of me that almost wants to uninstall it for
39:40
the most part, you know, because there's certain things like
39:43
that. I do, you know, as a gamer that
39:45
sometimes I'm like, oh, I actually need the resources from
39:47
the, from the operating system side of it.
39:50
Yeah. I mean, it's not, it's not a
39:53
lot, but. What about like optimization?
39:57
Like again, one of the things I like about the consoles are that
40:00
the games are pretty much optimized for the system.
40:03
I don't have to tweak with the settings other than maybe adjust
40:06
the gamma. Well, see that's.
40:07
So. I'm glad you, I'm glad you
40:10
mentioned that, because I feel like that's the, that's the
40:12
thing. Like, you know, like it's going
40:13
to, it's going to they're, they're, they're gamers out
40:17
there that, you know, like they're going to be gamers out
40:19
there that have this 'cause they haven't, it's on the Steam Deck,
40:22
right? You know that, you know, like
40:24
you just go in your settings, you, you go in your settings and
40:26
you and you toggle a few switches and you're off to the
40:29
races. And then there's other and then
40:31
there's other people's like, oh, I want to, I want to mend Max
40:34
the hell out of this shit. So, you know, like they're going
40:36
in there, they're tweaking, they're tweaking like the
40:38
absolute, the absolute dumbest things from like, from like
40:40
foliage suede to like shadows, reflection in the water and all
40:43
this stuff. You know, all these devices are
40:47
trying to get people more into APC gaming frame of mind, but
40:52
making it as streamlined as possible.
40:54
So, you know, for the, for the, for the basic gamer out there,
40:59
things are OK, like just change, just just toggle four different
41:04
settings, one of one of four different settings and I'm
41:06
playing my game. Whereas other people were going
41:08
to be like, oh, I'm super enthusiasts.
41:09
So, you know, like, guess what I want?
41:11
I want every, I want every bit of performance with the best
41:14
frames possible out there, you know?
41:16
Which is why 60 frames per second is a sweet spot, you
41:19
know, for the most part. Yeah, I'm just saying because
41:23
when I played APC game earlier this year, like they put me into
41:27
a menu, they had all these different like, options that I
41:31
had, like no clue what happened to me even did.
41:34
All I wanted to do is get the game to run so that it didn't,
41:37
like, stagger, yeah, you know, like drop frames.
41:42
But you know, for me it was a hassle because I'm like tweaking
41:45
this, like, OK, maybe if I drop this the game will actually run
41:50
a little smoother. But it was a whole bunch of
41:52
trial and error. And that's what I don't like
41:54
about the PC. Oh, I hear you.
41:57
I trust me. I I hear you.
42:01
He hears you, he says. No, you know, here's, here's
42:06
here's what I've learned because I, I had, I had to stop this a
42:09
long time ago, especially, especially when I realized I
42:12
became APC gamer like I'd I'd shifted from console to PC
42:15
gaming. I want to say I think, I think
42:18
I've officially called myself PC Gamer for like the last 10
42:20
years, you know, but I know for sure, I know for sure.
42:23
Like it almost got to a point where it felt like I bought API,
42:27
bought APS four, I bought a switch, switch to PS5I almost
42:31
feel like I wasted my money because like, you know, like the
42:34
only reason why I'm getting these things are for exclusives.
42:36
And even when I have the exclusives, I'm barely turn them
42:38
turn them on, you know, like I'm playing more games on PC in the
42:41
PC environment. You know, I'm still like that,
42:43
you know, now, all that aside, all that aside, and Nick and
42:49
Nick said it in the chat, like, you know, like the, the, this
42:52
box is going to be a tinkerer's heaven.
42:54
You know, Nick said that those that's not my quote.
42:57
And I agree with him for the simple fact that, you know,
43:00
like, like, you know, like we're going to have PC enthusiasts
43:03
that are going to grab this thing and just like dissect it,
43:06
you know, and like put it through its paces, see what it's
43:08
about. Of course they're going to do
43:10
things to it. They're going to, they're going
43:11
to modify the operating system and all this stuff.
43:13
And then they're going to push that stuff out into the, into
43:15
the world and the ecosystem and see if other people like, you
43:18
know, like just the casuals like attach onto it and stuff like
43:21
that. You know, it, it's like Aladdin,
43:25
the whole new world, probably, probably probably anywhere
43:31
between 500, eight, $100, you know, based on, based on like
43:35
the storage and the models, you know.
43:38
Yeah. Well, if somebody was looking to
43:45
move, you know, away from the Xbox ecosystem, would you
43:52
recommend this to someone who is trying to do that or would you
43:55
recommend a PlayStation? I wouldn't, I would, I would
44:01
recommend it. I would recommend it just
44:04
because like it's a stepping stone into like helping people
44:08
figure out exactly how they want to play their games.
44:11
Like, you know, it gives them a little bit of freedom.
44:13
Like, you know, like you still have the console experience, you
44:17
know, like inside the shell of APC you do.
44:20
And you know, like you have you have like all the options and
44:23
stuff, you know, to like to like elevate it to a certain extent.
44:27
Of course, the hardware itself is going to be like the the the
44:30
limit or the cap or what not. You know, you're not going to be
44:33
able to you're not going to be able to have this thing wide the
44:36
fuck open with like 600 and some odd frames.
44:38
Like I see how some people having counter straight go, you
44:41
know, even though, like their their displays don't even like
44:43
hit that, you know, but but perhaps it's showing like 600
44:47
plus it, you know, it's it's one of those things like, you know,
44:50
like it's it's like an age of discovery and an and, and for
44:54
every for every console gamer out there, there's a new
44:58
transplant into like the world of PC gaming, stuff like that.
45:01
And it's like, it's like a new discovery every time, you know,
45:04
especially if they're into it, you know, and they want to see
45:06
what's going on. Let me see Nick's saying here.
45:10
The best part is you can technically buy the cheapest
45:12
version and just upgrade the storage as they allow you to
45:14
upgrade it as soon as you get it.
45:16
And also with Valve, with the, with Valve products, they will
45:19
not release this unless they know it's going to come out near
45:22
perfect. And that is true.
45:23
That's true because like because like I think the only, I think
45:26
the only complaint with the with the Steam Deck has been that
45:32
outside of the fact that he can't play every game you want
45:34
to play because of hardware limitations, some games have the
45:37
anti cheat thing going on. You know, there's no way around
45:39
that. And also the verification
45:41
system. The verification system in my
45:43
opinion is garbage. Jeez.
45:52
Well, I guess we will. I guess we'll see how it does.
46:00
It's intriguing to say the least, especially I think
46:04
especially if you are already into the whole PC gaming thing
46:09
and have the steam deck right. Like I feel like this is a this
46:13
kind of companion piece is really, I don't know.
46:19
I, I think it's kind of a nice thing, but if is it going to
46:23
draw console gamers into the PC hardware, PC gaming stuff?
46:27
I don't know, but we'll see. I'm interested.
46:31
I think Valve is always doing something interesting and you
46:37
know, this isn't any different. Think Half Life 3 will be a
46:40
launch title. Is that what it's going to
46:41
launch with Half Life 3? Hilarious.
46:51
I feel like you could. I feel like they could shadow
46:53
drop Half Life 3 in like the middle of the night and then
46:57
break the Internet the next morning.
46:59
Yeah, Yeah, they could that. Really would break the Internet.
47:03
For real. People would be wondering if
47:04
that was a joke or not. Yeah, well, we'll see next year
47:14
if this thing is, if the thing's going to be, you know, worth it.
47:21
You know what? You know what Laurent is scared
47:24
about not being worth it? Metroid Prime 4 Beyond with a
47:29
creepy companion. Girl words have never been
47:31
spoken. Apparently, Metroid Prime for
47:40
impressions have raised major concerns about the game's new
47:42
human companions, especially Galactic Federation trooper
47:46
Myles Mackenzie, whose constant chatter of Force escort missions
47:50
and cringey dialogue critics called distracting and
47:53
frustrating. New Nintendo Overview trailer
47:56
confirm Samus will meet and occasionally team up with full
47:59
cast of human troopers across the game's major areas,
48:02
assisting them and even reviving them if they fall a while.
48:07
Metroid has included human characters before.
48:09
Fans worry that Beyond's talkative, intrusive companions
48:12
may undermine the series signature sense of solitary
48:15
exploration. I mean, to me this is.
48:22
To me this is just Halo 4 with a Nintendo skin on it.
48:26
This week, every single but Halo. 4 was like Metroid Prime
48:30
2. Essentially so yeah, every
48:34
single person that's that's played like the early preview,
48:36
because there was early previews in various places, Australia was
48:40
one of them and some other places, you know, of course,
48:43
like IG and wait, I don't want to lie, I thought, I think IGN
48:47
had their hands on it. I basically.
48:48
Yeah, this is. This article is from the IGN
48:51
Preview. OK, yeah, I basically got, I
48:53
basically got an entire rundown, you know, based on what
48:56
everybody was saying, you know, about this stuff and and there
49:02
is a reason why I hate Nintendo 64 Zelda games.
49:06
There's. There's a distinct reason, you
49:08
know, like that little, the little, the little Sprite
49:10
character Navi always like freaking yelling at you and
49:13
stuff. And so I was watching, I was
49:15
watching some of these videos like like like this week in
49:18
video games, One of my favorite like, you know, like like week,
49:22
like like channels was showing some of the footage they had
49:25
when they were doing their early playthrough and stuff like that.
49:28
The dude just talks and talks and talks like like you're
49:32
moving around and he'll be like he'll like, I think you might
49:35
want to save, you know, like your or is like, do you didn't
49:38
you want to check this out before you move on It?
49:43
It's going to, it's going to kill my immersion for real,
49:46
because like #1 I was like, if I want to play Uncharted, I will
49:50
turn on my PlayStation and play Uncharted.
49:54
And and the sad part is, the sad part is Sully, Elena, all them,
49:58
they don't even talk that damn much.
50:02
Yeah, I guess for me it doesn't really bother me that people are
50:07
talking. I don't, I don't know.
50:11
I mean, I guess it depends on what tone the game is going for.
50:15
Is it going to be an exploration game or is it going to be a
50:17
shooter, you know, like which, which direction are they going?
50:20
You know what I mean? Like to me the 2D games are for
50:24
the isolation and the like. 3D games are more of the aside from
50:28
I guess the first one. But like, I feel like the 3D
50:31
games are more open to that, the idea of there being other
50:36
characters in it. The prime games didn't even have
50:39
the the the the first three prime games in.
50:43
The game three had a ton of characters in it I thought, but
50:46
they like a whole steam, right? But they weren't.
50:48
They weren't just they weren't just a persistent like talking
50:51
device though. Yeah, I mean, they don't need
50:55
to. I feel like I don't know a lot
51:00
of this team worked on Halo. 4 talked a lot of.
51:05
There's been a lot of Metroid that's had talking.
51:07
The only difference is though is that the talking has been done
51:11
in cutscenes, with Adam being most of the talking lately.
51:15
Exactly. And not in a, not in a live axle
51:18
like you got boots on the ground, you're controlling the
51:21
game in real time. But I don't think like I think
51:26
people are blowing the Miles thing out of proportion because
51:29
what they played was a preview and as the overview mentioned,
51:32
there are a cast of characters. Miles is only one of them and
51:37
he's probably assigned just to 1 area of the game.
51:41
Like he's not going to kill you the entirety of the game.
51:45
Well, the major, the major fear is because I because I also
51:48
acknowledge that because like a lot of people said that, yeah,
51:50
like we only, we only played the parts that, you know, like have
51:52
miles featured in it. But but give but they, but they
51:55
explained that there's, there's a cast of characters and stuff
51:58
like that that you will be interacting and playing with,
52:01
you know, throughout the game and stuff like that.
52:02
And they're wondering if this is what it's going to be, you know,
52:05
which is a, which is a valid concern.
52:09
I'd say let me try it out. You know, honestly, like if we
52:14
just kept having the same thing, we're not innovating.
52:16
And so I appreciate that Nintendo's trying to take
52:19
Metroid up to the next evolution.
52:22
Yeah, she's a bounty hunter and she's standardly or she's
52:25
typically just doing these things on her own.
52:27
But, you know, the game has tried to introduce cast of
52:31
characters and, you know, it makes sense that she would
52:35
probably be working alongside with the Galactic Federation.
52:40
So I you know if this doesn't work, OK, they tried it then
52:45
Metroid Prime 5 will just maybe be more solitary.
52:51
Yeah, I mean, but. We would not know how good Links
52:55
await or A Link to the Past would be if we didn't have Links
52:58
Awakening first and not Links Awakening Lynx Adventure first.
53:02
Yeah, my, my overall, my overall, my overall fear.
53:06
And this is, this is for me, I met a Metroid fanboy is that
53:09
it's going to kill my immersion of the game.
53:11
And that's, that's that right there has given me pause on
53:14
buying this game day one. And that's, that sucks.
53:19
That sucks because every Metroid, every Metroid that's
53:21
come out, I bought day one. Even the games I didn't, even
53:25
the games I did not play immediately, I bought day one.
53:30
I feel like. I think it it's going to be a
53:33
good, I think it's going to be a good game.
53:35
It probably will be a good. Game, but it's going to be good.
53:37
It probably will be a good game, but like I said, like like
53:40
killing the immersion is going to is going to hurt the fan
53:43
base. See, I mean, I guess so, but I
53:51
feel like again, I feel like the the three, like I feel like the
53:56
3D games have a little bit more room to wiggle room to be that
54:00
game of like, oh, there's other characters, there's other, you
54:04
know, things going on and then the 2D games are the isolated
54:07
ones, right? Like that's that's kind of how I
54:11
have felt about Metroid Prime overall.
54:18
You know, like I, I just, I feel like if you're going to position
54:21
this is a first person shooter esque game, you might as well
54:26
lean into it, especially especially now, right where like
54:32
Metroid doesn't ever sell, right, Like Metroid dreads sold
54:36
more than every other two D Metroid game combined, right,
54:39
like the Metroid just doesn't Metroid just doesn't sell.
54:43
It's a fan favorite, but it's not a, you know, a huge seller.
54:47
So you look, I, I, I'm, I'm just wondering if Nintendo is kind of
54:54
like looking at Metroid Prime to go up against other first person
54:59
games. Other first person games are
55:03
more action oriented. I think Nintendo, the one genre
55:07
Nintendo doesn't have a good grasp on is is the first person
55:10
shooter, right? I feel like, I don't know, I
55:14
feel like they could lean into it a little bit more with this.
55:17
And I know that doesn't really help, right?
55:21
But like, I don't know, I feel like you'd get more people in
55:25
the door with that and make Metroid Prime a bigger series,
55:31
which ultimately is what they want, right?
55:33
So. I can see story parts being, you
55:39
know, kind of more on rails. However, I feel Metroid's still
55:44
going to contain the classic Metroid exploration that
55:48
Metroidvania has been aptly named for.
55:50
It may, you may have to wait until you're done with certain
55:53
story parts, but then you could probably go back in a similar
55:58
case, Metroid Dread, for example, how that game just kind
56:01
of led you for a good chunk of the game before it finally lets
56:05
you kind of open go back and forth between the world's.
56:09
I I think we might be experiencing something like that
56:12
with Prime 4. But yeah, I agree with Corey.
56:16
I think they're trying to bring in new blood to the Metroid
56:20
series and trying to reinvent it so that it's a little more based
56:26
on of the first person shooters and have more of a squad based
56:29
feeling to it. But I still believe they're
56:32
going to retain the exploration part as well.
56:35
I'm OK. I'm I'm sure the exploration
56:38
parts in there, you guys aren't, you guys aren't, You guys
56:43
aren't. You guys aren't aren't picking
56:45
up what I'm putting down like. I am people.
56:49
It's the, it's the immersion aspect of it.
56:52
Like, okay, like, you know, like, okay, maybe they are
56:55
trying to make it feel like you're less isolated and stuff
56:58
like that. I get that.
56:59
That's why they introduce like Adam Malkovich and you know,
57:01
they introduce other bounty hunters, you know, across the
57:03
other games and stuff like that. But still like there was never
57:06
persistent voice in your ear. Like like the only voice in your
57:10
ear you usually heard was Samus, like grunting or screaming, you
57:13
know, like when something was going on with her and stuff like
57:15
that, you know, and that's part of the immersion, you know, like
57:18
someone talking at you that that's not the Metroid.
57:26
Metroid NES release date it. Was 198680. 6 so for.
57:36
For. For fracking.
57:41
For fracking for almost. 39. I was going to say for almost
57:44
4040 years, you know, like like we've been used to, We've been
57:49
used to like Samus and the world, not Samus the world and
57:55
NPCS. One of the saddest parts of a
58:01
Metroid game was a companion dying on Sabbath.
58:04
The little tiny Metroid from Metroid Prime 3 getting blown
58:09
away by Mother Brain you. Mean Metroid, you mean.
58:11
You mean Metroid 3, You said. Prime.
58:14
Yeah, you said. Prime three.
58:15
Sorry, yeah, Super Metroid, you know, So maybe watching Miles
58:21
die in some gruesome manner might provoke emotion for
58:25
Metroid fans and be just like the death of baby Metroid again.
58:29
Yeah, kill him. Sorry.
58:32
Probably I shouldn't say that out loud.
58:39
Good times, though. No, I hear.
58:43
I hear what you're saying. Laurent.
58:46
I, I, I know what Metroid fans want, I think Prime ultimately
58:53
is not going to be for Metroid fans in my opinion.
58:58
And that's the sad part, because it'll have, because Prime is
59:01
what Prime is. Honestly what kept Metroid going
59:04
for Metroid fans. You know when you know there was
59:06
a serious drought. And I'm saying it's going to be
59:10
the next Donkey Kong bonanza where people are going to look
59:13
at the game and be like, that's not my Donkey Kong.
59:16
But then when they finally play it, they're realizing that this
59:19
game cared more about the Donkey Kong franchise than any other
59:22
game in the series. Let's well we'll, we will have
59:26
to find out like I don't know. All I know is all I know is this
59:30
is not day one purchase for me now and that sucks.
59:34
They should have. I'll let.
59:35
You know how it is Nintendo should have done what they, what
59:38
they, what they normally do, hold everything close to their
59:41
chest and just let us discover it.
59:43
That's what they should have done on this one because like,
59:46
because like, you know, like I, you know what everybody, we have
59:50
1000 plus followers now. So everyone, if you're watching
59:53
this video, sound off. Sound off in comments or the
59:57
chat if you're watching it live, if you're a Metroid fan.
1:00:01
Let's know what you're thinking. Let's know, let's know how you
1:00:04
feel about this particular revelation here, because because
1:00:08
I I'm not going to speak for all the fans.
1:00:09
I'm just going to speak for myself as a fan like this.
1:00:12
This gave me some serious pause and I'm I'm sorry, like, you
1:00:15
know, it's, you know, like I, I, I really, I really feel like,
1:00:19
you know, like I'm doing I'm doing an injustice by not having
1:00:21
this type of faith in it. You know, I really feel that in
1:00:24
my soul, but the same time I've, I've gotten to a point where
1:00:29
it's like, you know, like I'm not just going to throw money at
1:00:32
something I know I'm not going to, I'm not going to enjoy.
1:00:38
Yeah. I feel like we should challenge
1:00:39
around here. I I feel like it just turns out
1:00:41
to be like the best Metroid game in the entire series.
1:00:44
Laura needs to wear like a Princess Peach outfit and say
1:00:47
that Nintendo's is absolute favorite company in the world.
1:00:51
I'm, I'm not, I am not going to go that far, but but I will.
1:00:55
But you know I how about? Bows that outfit.
1:00:59
No, not. I'm not gender bending for you
1:01:02
guys. I'm not.
1:01:05
Fine, we'll get let you be Luigi, but you know.
1:01:08
Yeah, see, I can do that. OK, and still say Nintendo's my
1:01:13
favorite company in the. World, I won't say that I will
1:01:19
not. Jeez, man.
1:01:27
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, like, you know, sound off in the chat.
1:01:30
If you think, if you think I I'm being way too critical, sound
1:01:33
off in the chat in, in the comments, you think I'm being
1:01:35
way too critical. I just, I just had this, I just
1:01:37
had this gut feeling and you know, like it said that, you
1:01:40
know, like I got, I got gut punched when I saw all those
1:01:43
reviews come out. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
1:01:49
I I think. It's OK.
1:01:50
I think it's OK to. I think it's OK to be scared or
1:01:53
anxious about something you love.
1:01:55
I think it is. No, of course, of course it is.
1:01:58
You know, I mean, I'm scared every time a new Destiny
1:02:01
expansion comes out, but like, the one that comes out in two
1:02:06
weeks that's Star Wars themed and confusing, but it's fine.
1:02:13
But like, what scares you about this title?
1:02:17
La Ron is what excites me. About this was it was exciting
1:02:20
new which I I respected I do, but I'm also.
1:02:24
Not a Metroid Super fan like you, right?
1:02:28
So like, things like that don't bother me, you know?
1:02:32
Yeah, and yeah. And, and trust me, I, I, I get
1:02:35
it and I respect that part too. I, I, yeah, I, this is, This is
1:02:39
why, This is why everybody, I This is why everybody I try to
1:02:41
talk to about Monster Hunter, like, I'd like, I, they, you
1:02:44
know, like, I understand if they don't want to do it, you know,
1:02:49
So same thing applies here, you know, like I've, I've got a
1:02:51
game, we've got a game here that I should, I should absolutely be
1:02:54
loving it just because it is the thing, you know, just like how
1:02:57
Stephanie loves every single Legend of Zelda game, every
1:03:01
single one. You know, I should be like this
1:03:04
with Metroid, but for some strange reason this one is, this
1:03:08
one is this one's like gutting me.
1:03:13
Well, we'll have to wait and see.
1:03:16
I think December 4th is the release date of this game so.
1:03:22
Yes, it is. I'm, I'm honestly I'm, I'm
1:03:26
honestly hoping I don't. I don't.
1:03:28
I don't get overwhelmed with FOMO and wind up buying it the
1:03:31
first weekend 'cause I need to. I need to see what's up with
1:03:34
this. Oh, I'm definitely telling you
1:03:36
everything about it, Laurent. If you, if you guys, if you
1:03:41
guys, if you guys can tell me a truthful, A truthful and
1:03:45
unbiased, A truthful and unbiased like, you know, like
1:03:49
critique about the game in the after the first after the first
1:03:53
week, I will get it. See the but if you but if you
1:03:57
turn around and you say, yeah, there's some things about this
1:04:00
game I don't like or there's some or yeah, or, or you
1:04:02
definitely prove me right about this whole thing with the you
1:04:06
definitely prove me right about this whole thing with with the
1:04:08
with the NPC characters. I'll just wind up buying it.
1:04:13
I'll just wind up buying it $70 five years later because, you
1:04:15
know, Nintendo games never drop in price.
1:04:18
You are you are correct, they don't.
1:04:23
But I feel like the thing that scares me the most out on this
1:04:26
thing is the is the motorcycle crap.
1:04:30
Like what is that? That too?
1:04:31
Everybody's like, everybody's like, what the hell?
1:04:32
You know, everybody's like that, You know, like, I'm legit, Like
1:04:37
I'm legit. I wasn't excited for the bike
1:04:39
when I saw it at first. I was intrigued.
1:04:41
And then like, you know, when I kind of saw it in action, I was
1:04:43
like, huh. Yeah.
1:04:48
This the equivalent of the sled from Gears of War Five.
1:04:51
Come on, people. Yeah, that was.
1:04:53
For the motorbike from Tomb Raider, you just drive to your
1:04:57
next location. Wait, the motorbike from Tomb
1:05:02
Raider? Well, I'm thinking of Tomb, Tomb
1:05:05
Raider Underworld, where she's like in Mexico with the
1:05:08
motorcycle and it's just kind of there to really just drive you
1:05:11
to set piece to set piece in that area.
1:05:13
Yeah, I thought you, I thought you were talking about the the
1:05:16
new, the new one. So I was like, I don't remember
1:05:18
a motorcycle in those games. I'm thinking Underworld.
1:05:22
Yeah, Where's that trilogy at, by the way?
1:05:25
They just. I'm waiting for that.
1:05:26
That's got to be the next one. Well they just released Tomb
1:05:29
Raider Definitive edition on Switch today which is like
1:05:33
crazy. Switch one by the way, not
1:05:39
Switch. I mean, they did release a
1:05:40
Switch 2 version, but they also released it on Switch one, which
1:05:43
is like, boy, hope you all ready for that one.
1:05:50
But let's let's, let's, let's move on.
1:05:56
Cuz let's move from this house gate.
1:05:57
Well, we'll have a lot to talk about Metroid in the coming
1:06:01
weeks, months, probably Ronald. Cry and then be happy, and then
1:06:05
cry again and. It'll be all right.
1:06:10
Say how Miles You know what's his favorite character?
1:06:14
You know what? I don't think we'll be all
1:06:15
right. Just freaking Zelda movie.
1:06:19
Why do you not think it's going to be all right?
1:06:23
Have you seen those pictures? Those are beautiful pictures.
1:06:27
I saw them, I saw them, I saw them moving pictures and I'm
1:06:30
like. So in case you missed it,
1:06:36
Nintendo did a special direct for the Super Mario Galaxy movie
1:06:41
and they did a Nintendo Today picture posting for The Legend
1:06:46
of Zelda movie. Mario Galaxy is packed with a
1:06:50
lot of a lot into the short runtime for the trailer, Chris
1:06:57
Melindandre of Illumination showed the film's trailer.
1:07:04
Jack Black made an appearance returning characters like Mario,
1:07:08
Luigi, Peach, and Bowser and Toad.
1:07:11
They also included new characters like Rosalina and
1:07:15
Bowser Junior. The film was out on April 3rd
1:07:22
Jack Black made an appearance, Brie Larson is playing Rosalina,
1:07:26
Benny Safdie is playing Bowser Junior.
1:07:31
And to be fair, I think this movie looks much better than the
1:07:35
first one. But also, what the Hell's going
1:07:38
on in this movie? Because there's Mario Odyssey
1:07:41
stuff, there's Mario Galaxy stuff, there's Mario 2 stuff
1:07:47
like. There's Mario Wonder stuff.
1:07:50
Yeah, there's, yeah. I mean, Bowser Junior,
1:07:52
literally, that's literally the first boss battle.
1:07:55
And Mario Wonder is that purple mask thing that he's wearing.
1:08:01
Well, they even did like the the Ninjies, Yeah.
1:08:04
Jumping around in the, like, kind of their song settings,
1:08:08
yeah. So, Pat, what did what did you
1:08:12
think of this trailer? You know, it was a fun little
1:08:16
trailer. You know, it definitely
1:08:18
showcased a lot. I I enjoyed the humor.
1:08:21
I thought the whole Bowser, Minnie Bowser painting the
1:08:26
picture was not Zelda Princess bleaching him and Luigi boutique
1:08:31
in the yard would be good. And Mario's like, it sucks.
1:08:34
Yeah, I thought that was absolutely hilarious.
1:08:40
I think I'm, I'm happy that they got Brie Larson.
1:08:45
Like out of all the people they could have gotten, they chose a
1:08:49
massive Nintendo fangirl who literally kicked out her
1:08:54
boyfriend because her boyfriend said that she was being too
1:08:58
intense against the final boss of Scooper, Mario Galaxy.
1:09:03
And now we know like 6 years later.
1:09:06
Or. Whatever.
1:09:07
How many years later? Yeah.
1:09:09
That's the thing. That was the thing like igi
1:09:12
forget, I think it was IG. And there could have been some
1:09:15
person reported that Brie Larson or he had an interview with Brie
1:09:20
Larson and Brie Larson said that she kicked that her boyfriend
1:09:24
out of her house one day because he was saying that she was being
1:09:27
too serious while she was fighting the final boss, the
1:09:30
Super Mario Galaxy. And now she's playing Rosalina
1:09:36
of Super Mario Galaxy. If there's anything that says I
1:09:39
studied source material like that, that would be the story
1:09:43
right there. Yeah, I think, I think having
1:09:50
Rosalina in this movie is, I mean, obviously it's the Galaxy
1:09:54
movie. You're going to have it have
1:09:55
Rosalina in it. But I think like the way she's
1:09:58
portrayed in this trailer, you know, I think it says all you
1:10:03
need to know about what she's going to be like in this movie.
1:10:09
I'm very. Excited and overly powerful.
1:10:11
I'm very excited to see how Brie Larson plays her, to be honest.
1:10:18
Laronda, do you watch it? I did, yeah.
1:10:21
Yeah. And you know, like Bowser Junior
1:10:24
is my favorite character in the entire like Mario, like Galaxy.
1:10:31
Let's just put it, let's just put it like that.
1:10:33
The Mario universe at this point, right?
1:10:34
It's my son's favorite too. I love that.
1:10:37
I love that little Rascal. Oh my God.
1:10:40
So like seeing in that trailer just made my freaking day, you
1:10:45
know? Like it was like, it was like
1:10:47
the best thing I didn't know I needed today.
1:10:49
When I saw it that day, you know, I was like, I was like,
1:10:51
man, like, like I wasn't really amped for the first Mario movie.
1:10:55
And I don't, and I haven't even seen enough about this to be
1:10:58
amped for this movie. But I am more amped for this
1:11:00
movie than I was about the first one.
1:11:05
Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way.
1:11:06
I feel like, I don't know, I just feel like this one's going
1:11:11
to be better for some reason. I have no, no inkling why.
1:11:17
I just feel like, I feel like we tried to shove too much into the
1:11:21
first one. Right.
1:11:24
Like, yeah. I mean, like they did like the
1:11:26
whole Mario Kart thing. They did a Smash Brothers thing,
1:11:29
right? They had the whole Donkey Kong
1:11:30
thing going on. Like, I don't know, I feel like
1:11:33
there is a lot going on in that movie where like this feels at
1:11:37
least from the outset. Feels more.
1:11:40
Cohesive as a movie. So yeah, I'm, I'm kind of
1:11:48
excited to see it, but probably won't see it until it comes to
1:11:52
the some sort of streaming service or whatever, honestly,
1:11:55
because, well, I don't like going to the theater.
1:12:01
But the other thing that they showed were the still images of
1:12:07
the live action Legend of Zelda movie currently filming in New
1:12:10
Zealand. The stills feature Benjamin Evan
1:12:16
Ainsworth as Link and Bo Braggesson as Zelda in a lush
1:12:20
Hyrule like landscape, accompanied by a message from
1:12:25
Miyamoto confirming the film is on track for May 7th, 2027.
1:12:31
Their designs appear to be both modern and classic Zelda
1:12:35
aesthetics, hinting at the film's tone while leaving fans
1:12:39
room to speculate about its story.
1:12:42
Together, these reveals mark exciting moments for Nintendo's
1:12:48
film projects. I don't know, man.
1:12:53
I'm still questioning the Zelda movie.
1:12:59
What do you Your mouth is moving?
1:13:01
What do you want to say? I'm saying they look freaking
1:13:06
amazing. Like I I questioned the two
1:13:09
actors when they were, well, not really Zelda.
1:13:12
I questioned the guy they got for Link first, but my God, he
1:13:18
looks like Link in that picture. You got that WAVY blonde hair,
1:13:24
the this kind of like determined look in the eye, the green
1:13:28
tunic. And then you have Zelda that,
1:13:32
you know, looks kind of like the Breath of the wild Princess pre
1:13:38
calamity that she's, I don't know, I, I feel really good
1:13:44
about who they got now. What about?
1:13:49
What about you, Lauren? I I don't have an opinion about
1:13:53
it. I I mean like I it's going it's
1:13:59
going to OK you guys, things don't take me a long time to
1:14:01
warm up Mentor Prime 4. It's going to take me a longer
1:14:04
time to warm up this. I just I OK, I have I have faith
1:14:11
in Nintendo on this one because like if, if Mario's not
1:14:15
Nintendo's baby, then then it's definitely like Lesno Zelda.
1:14:18
That's that's their baby, right. So I feel like I feel like they
1:14:22
will not let this be screwed up. But at the same time, I also
1:14:25
feel like they should have should have went they should
1:14:28
have went all digital, all digital movie like they did it
1:14:30
in the Mario movie. Yeah.
1:14:36
I think if you have. You could like you have movies
1:14:39
and shows like Game of Thrones and if you can put like that
1:14:43
kind of effects on it, I think you got yourself a fairly decent
1:14:48
movie. Yeah, I agree.
1:14:50
I agree with that. But I also feel like this is a
1:14:52
very big swing for Nintendo. It is.
1:14:58
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a big swing that they might not be
1:15:01
able to recover from if it's not received well.
1:15:05
That I don't agree with. Nintendo has money.
1:15:07
Nintendo OK, this isn't. Going to kill them like Final
1:15:12
Fantasy killed. Square, I was about, well, I was
1:15:15
going to use that comparison. I was I, I, I really was because
1:15:19
like this, all it takes, all it takes is for this movie, the
1:15:23
bomb. And then like shareholders start
1:15:25
pulling out. Yeah, but this is a Sony
1:15:29
produced movie, not an I mean, Nintendo's involved, but like.
1:15:33
I mean I mean this. Is a Sony first movie.
1:15:37
It's going to affect both of them, though.
1:15:40
I mean, Sony's not going to, Sony's not going to like, you
1:15:42
know, like go all like, like carefree because it, you know,
1:15:45
or, or, you know, Sony, Sony's not going to go carefree because
1:15:49
like, you know, it's a Nintendo property.
1:15:50
Just like Nintendo's not going to go carefree because Sony was
1:15:53
the one that published it. You know, like the fact that
1:15:57
Sony and Nintendo are in bed. Again, is is is is is amazing.
1:16:01
But it's also strange. Yeah, it is.
1:16:05
It is weird. But also like, I feel like, I
1:16:12
feel like Nintendo has been very careful.
1:16:14
Obviously they've been careful in the movie and TV space
1:16:18
because like, I mean, the only cartoon they've had in like the
1:16:21
last 20 years was like that Kirby, that Kirby show, right?
1:16:25
And then like, I feel like they are going to be extra careful
1:16:33
because I, I, they, they have to see the, the feedback from fans,
1:16:36
right? Of like fans being worried about
1:16:39
them screwing this up, right? So they, they're going to be, I
1:16:42
feel like they're going to be extra careful with this because
1:16:46
Zelda is like their, you know, their prestige title, you know,
1:16:50
like, yeah, Mario's their crown jewel, but I mean, they're,
1:16:54
they're a prestige title is Zelda.
1:16:57
So, and they don't want to screw that up, especially with all the
1:17:01
goodwill they've gained from Breath of the Wild and Tears of
1:17:04
the Kingdom. And like, you know, the, the
1:17:07
Lynx Awakening remake and the, you know, the current run of
1:17:09
games, like they don't want to go back to Skyward Sword, you
1:17:17
know, where people were like hating every bit of Zelda at
1:17:21
that point, right? So I mean, I know there's some
1:17:24
people that like Skyward Sword, but like, you know what I mean?
1:17:27
Zelda was at its low point at that point.
1:17:30
So yeah, I mean, I don't know if.
1:17:34
They can pull up from a game like Triforce Heroes.
1:17:38
I think this movie isn't going to be that huge of a deal.
1:17:41
Like if it bombs they still have the games to work with and I'm
1:17:46
sure Nintendo will do their best to save based on the games, but
1:17:52
I really don't think this movie's going to bomb.
1:17:54
I think. I think it'll do well.
1:17:56
Very ridiculous. Actually, I think it'll do well.
1:17:58
I don't think, I don't think it's going to bomb either.
1:18:01
I am not saying this movie's going to bomb, but I think the
1:18:05
Nintendo has to brace itself for like, you know, like whatever
1:18:08
their projections are versus what they wind up getting.
1:18:12
Yeah, well that. Is more the conservative 1
1:18:17
though I feel but like they're not the EA and Ubisoft where
1:18:21
they say we're going to sell more copies and systems out
1:18:24
there. Like I feel like Nintendo
1:18:28
generally it has a better idea how to forecast their their
1:18:33
products. Well, this is this is Hollywood
1:18:34
we're talking about. This could be, this might be a
1:18:36
completely different like mindset for them, you know, like
1:18:39
they they could be thinking, they could be something thinking
1:18:41
something completely different. You know with this, because this
1:18:43
is Hollywood, you know, and not so much you know, this is not
1:18:46
their, this is not their wheelhouse.
1:18:49
Yeah, OK, now I'm going to throw the comparison of the Mario
1:18:53
movie, not not the 90s Mario, the recent one, because I
1:18:59
remember when they announced the cast of the Mario movie and
1:19:01
people are like, oh, that's going to suck.
1:19:04
But especially when they announced like Chris Pratt was
1:19:07
going to be Mario and the Mario movie turned out to actually be
1:19:10
pretty good, The Mario. Movie turned out to be pretty
1:19:12
good, but I think, I think we're I think we're over exaggerating
1:19:16
the whole thing because people you saying Chris Pratt.
1:19:20
That's exactly where a lot of the vitriol came from.
1:19:23
Like they like and it it's that bad side of the Internet that
1:19:26
always like wants to play bad about about stuff just because
1:19:29
like, you know, like they don't like this.
1:19:31
They don't like that, you know, like for all those loud ass
1:19:34
voices saying this movie's going to suck because Chris Pratt and
1:19:37
Angie Taylor Joy are in it, you know, so like that, you know,
1:19:39
like, like at the same time there was, there was a there was
1:19:42
a dedicated fan base saying like this looks like it's going to be
1:19:44
good and we should give it a chance.
1:19:45
You know, at the same time, you know, I'm pretty sure, I'm
1:19:49
pretty sure like we've got the same thing going on.
1:19:51
I actually, I don't know, I haven't really heard a lot about
1:19:54
a lot of discourse about this upcoming Zelda movie besides the
1:19:57
fact that why is it not CGI? You know, that's the biggest
1:20:00
discourse about it. Why is it not CGI?
1:20:03
It it, you know, and that's why, and that's why people saying
1:20:06
it's unsafe for Nintendo. You know, that's that's really
1:20:10
the biggest reason why beyond that.
1:20:15
Yeah, it's just I, I don't know, like I feel like I'm about to
1:20:22
top myself in circles here, so I don't so.
1:20:26
What it what is the, what is the one thing that you're worried
1:20:31
about? Like the biggest thing you're
1:20:32
worried about with this movie? Me.
1:20:35
Either of you. I'm not really worried anything
1:20:39
right now. My my biggest worry obviously is
1:20:46
I think is the story. But I still feel like this movie
1:20:52
should not have had Link in it. I think it should have focused
1:20:56
on Zelda and the rise of Ganondorf.
1:20:59
And especially if they're planning on making this a
1:21:02
trilogy which has been thrown around like.
1:21:09
Who? Who said it's not going to focus
1:21:10
on Zelda though? That's.
1:21:12
No, I know, but I I meant like I don't think Link should be in it
1:21:15
at all. I think this should have been
1:21:19
some sort of like political war movie almost.
1:21:25
And then like maybe Link is in the second movie or the last
1:21:30
movie or something, right? Like, I don't know, I feel like,
1:21:36
and I'm not saying that because. Link Link is very integral to to
1:21:41
the plot line regardless of. I know, I know.
1:21:44
I feel like Link needs to be there, even if he's just the
1:21:49
guard of Zelda during the entire time.
1:21:51
Like it's hard to have a Legend of Zelda without having some
1:21:55
form of Link in it. That's probably why they have
1:21:58
the construct and age of imprisonment.
1:22:02
Yeah, yeah, because the construct in the age of
1:22:06
imprisonment is clearly the link stand in.
1:22:12
So I don't know I. Feel like the movie is going to
1:22:15
focus on Zelda. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not saying
1:22:18
like Link shouldn't like be an important part of the story.
1:22:22
I'm just saying like maybe if you're, if you are planning this
1:22:25
to be a trilogy, I feel like you need to, I feel like Link maybe
1:22:32
doesn't need to be a part of the first movie, but also in the
1:22:42
first Hyrule Warriors, he's a knight and then Skyward Sword,
1:22:45
he's a knight for Zelda, right? And so maybe that's the route
1:22:50
they're going, right. Like you said, Pat, it's like
1:22:52
he's like her guard or her knight or whatever, her
1:22:57
protector while she goes on this adventure.
1:22:59
Yeah, I see what you did there. That has a that has that has
1:23:04
implications. How long until they announce
1:23:08
that the Rock is the Goron King guy?
1:23:12
God, oh. God, you think Gannon's in this
1:23:16
movie? Lovely.
1:23:20
I'm pretty sure Gannon is a is a part of this.
1:23:25
I'm sure we're going to have Gruto's or Gannon.
1:23:31
You know what? Good question, there was someone
1:23:37
did point this out on Twitter and I reposted it.
1:23:42
This would have been the perfect role to have Robin Williams
1:23:46
played. The king of π rule.
1:23:48
Yeah, I saw that too. And it's like, dude, if if he
1:23:53
lived long enough, this would be like Nintendo would have had to
1:23:57
honorly give him this role. Yeah, yeah.
1:24:02
I mean, I think that would have just.
1:24:04
Yeah, I mean, I, I saw that too. I think that would have been
1:24:08
amazing. But RIP Robin Williams.
1:24:13
What a great actor. What a great, what a great
1:24:17
comedic. I do hope they kind of go on the
1:24:22
route of kind of hiring the lesser known for this.
1:24:25
Right now. I think just with the surprise
1:24:28
that Benjamin and Beau have brought into their characters, I
1:24:32
think they could probably pull from a roster of lesser known
1:24:35
and get some potential talent for like a Ganondorf or whoever
1:24:42
they want. What other for creatures they
1:24:44
want to bring in? Yeah, well, I guess we'll have
1:24:50
to wait till May 2027 to to figure it out.
1:24:58
I'm. Sure, we'll find out sometime in
1:24:59
2026. Yeah, I'm.
1:25:01
Probably get get that class list going, yeah.
1:25:06
All right, guys, let's let's move into this last thing I
1:25:10
have. I have a list here.
1:25:14
This is our weekly rotating segment, the listicles section.
1:25:18
This this list is from Game Reformer.
1:25:21
This is every single 10 out of 10 game that they released there
1:25:27
that they've given a 10 to, and there's 32 of them.
1:25:30
And we're just going to kind of go down the list to see if these
1:25:33
games deserved it and how they hold up.
1:25:37
Now, we don't need to spend a ton of time on every game, but,
1:25:42
you know, I think it would be fun to see if these games
1:25:45
deserve their 10 out of 10. Is everybody ready?
1:25:50
Yeah. Is everybody ready?
1:25:52
Yep. Yeah, All right.
1:25:54
So if you want to, if you want to see it, you can just go to
1:25:59
their website and and see it. Everybody who's watching or
1:26:02
listening to this, but. It's the first tutorial from
1:26:06
from November 4th, just in case you need.
1:26:08
To or just attach it to the show notes.
1:26:12
Wow, everybody just turned into a robot.
1:26:15
Yeah, that was cool. Laurent is frozen completely.
1:26:21
Nope. There he is.
1:26:22
He's chewing now. All right, everybody's back.
1:26:26
It's OK. We're fine.
1:26:29
We got Zelda. She'll save us all.
1:26:34
All right, these are in release order.
1:26:39
So our first game, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, did it deserve a
1:26:43
10 out of 10? Wait.
1:26:45
What Can't comment what? Is that the?
1:26:50
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the.
1:26:51
First game. I was looking, I was, I was
1:26:53
looking at the pictures and the first thing I saw was not Tony
1:26:56
Hawk. No, it's Mario 64 and Super
1:26:58
Mario World, which didn't get 10 out of 10s from Game Informer.
1:27:02
Yeah. OK.
1:27:04
All right. All right, back to the action.
1:27:06
OK. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2.
1:27:08
Mario World didn't even exist then.
1:27:10
Does it deserve 10 out of 10? No comment, never played it.
1:27:18
I love Tony Hawk too. I played it, I think played on
1:27:23
the Dreamcast. I think it's a high 9.
1:27:30
Yeah, I think the game gets extremely repetitive, right?
1:27:35
Especially because, like, you have to unlock everything with
1:27:38
every character. You can't just like play through
1:27:40
the game and then apply it to everybody else.
1:27:42
But I definitely say at least a high 9.
1:27:47
I love Tony Hawk 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, but
1:27:51
I don't know, I think a 10 is very I don't know.
1:27:56
I'm trying to think back of like that time too, though, right?
1:27:58
Because like a. 10 is very generous.
1:28:01
Yeah, because, like, I mean, even sports games were getting
1:28:05
like super high scores back then, right?
1:28:06
Like Madden was getting like 99 fives out of 10 back then too.
1:28:11
So Tony Hawk 2 was definitely highly anticipated though.
1:28:15
I don't know. I I I would definitely agree
1:28:22
with you though, Laurent. I think it's high 9.
1:28:25
Yeah, I think it's a high 9 even given the fact that it is APS
1:28:30
one game. I think it's AI, think it's a
1:28:31
high 9. Yeah, game #2 is Metal Gear
1:28:35
Solid two Sons of Liberty. I will say yes it's worth A10.
1:28:42
Story aside, this game introduced a heck of a lot of
1:28:46
like really cool things and it was so graphically impressive as
1:28:50
APS 2 game. I agree, I never played it.
1:28:56
I'm glad Pat spoke first because if I, if I'd, if I'd spoken as
1:29:00
fast as I wanted to speak, people would have been like, oh,
1:29:02
he's biased. I mean, you know, it is you,
1:29:07
Laurent. Yeah, but I agree.
1:29:11
Like in terms of story though, like it's yeah that I wish it
1:29:15
focused on Snake, but the rest of the game was impressive.
1:29:24
I never played it, but I know it's a lot of people's favorite
1:29:28
game in the series, so I will yield it to you.
1:29:34
Grand Theft Auto. Vice City, I think the
1:29:37
soundtrack alone gives it a 10 out of 10.
1:29:41
That soundtrack is a good thing, but I don't.
1:29:43
I mean, the game was Revel, you know that that's trilogy of
1:29:48
games was revolutionary. I don't know if it deserves a 10
1:29:52
out of 10. I definitely remember the combat
1:29:57
not being very good. I definitely remember the
1:30:01
driving feeling really floaty, but I think it did a lot for
1:30:08
open world games specifically so.
1:30:11
I can understand why at that at that particular time it got 10
1:30:14
from from Game Informer, but I think it's a high 9 as well.
1:30:18
Like, it definitely fixed a few things that was wrong with Grand
1:30:21
Theft Auto 3. Yeah.
1:30:24
Oh yeah. I mean.
1:30:25
I still feel, I still feel like at that point it was more of the
1:30:29
same as wash, rinse, repeat as far as these games.
1:30:31
Like I feel like, I feel like Grand Theft Auto 4 is when like
1:30:37
it's hard to say, 'cause like, 'cause like the identity of
1:30:40
Grand Theft Auto is basically rooted in Grand Theft Auto 3,
1:30:44
you know, and what it did for the franchise like that.
1:30:46
But I think Grand Theft Auto 4 is where like this where like
1:30:50
this franchise like actually got his real legs and it and it
1:30:53
became a cultural monster. Yeah, I'm going to go with San
1:30:59
Andreas is where it got its biggest legs.
1:31:04
And with that I would say Grand Theft Auto City Vice was a good
1:31:08
game, but it was not a 10 for me.
1:31:10
I. Yeah, it's a high 9.
1:31:12
It was probably my least favorite.
1:31:14
I'd say it was an 8. I would say it's probably a
1:31:21
9:00-ish would be my would be what I would throw at it,
1:31:25
especially at the time. But I definitely, I don't think
1:31:29
it was a 10. So let's let's let's go to this
1:31:34
next game. Laron, I'll let you pitch this
1:31:37
first to Metroid Fusion. Oh, man.
1:31:45
All right, this is coming off. This is coming off the heels of
1:31:48
Metroid 0 Mission. It's a high 9 for me.
1:31:55
Man 0 mission was so good though.
1:31:57
Zero, there's so much, there's so much nostalgia that there's a
1:32:00
reason why there's a reason why when we had that test stream,
1:32:02
that the test live stream, I picked 0 mission that night that
1:32:07
we, that we went live and and did a, a live like, you know,
1:32:10
like let's play. There's a reason why like like
1:32:15
Metroid Fusion is amazing. It, it, it was a shot in the arm
1:32:19
that was needed because because here's a, here's a fun fact.
1:32:23
Metroid Fusion released on the same day in Japan that it did
1:32:28
that Metroid Prime released in the US and the UK.
1:32:33
Or did I get that backwards? No, no, no, I got it right.
1:32:37
I got it right. I think you're fusion.
1:32:39
Fusion released the same day as as Prime, but over in Japan.
1:32:47
But yeah, this game, this game was great.
1:32:50
Like it introduced Adam Malkovich, which of course we
1:32:52
all know, like, you know, you know, like we got more lore, you
1:32:58
know, like we actually, we actually had real moving words
1:33:01
on the screen, you know, at that point, you know, and yeah,
1:33:06
Fusion did. Fusion did some things like
1:33:08
that. It's it's one of the goats.
1:33:10
But when you stack it up against 0 Mission and the fact that 0
1:33:15
mission not only hit you in this nostalgia, can we say Metroid 0
1:33:19
Mission was probably one of the first remakes ever of a game?
1:33:26
I. Mean Mario All Stars and Ninja
1:33:29
Gaiden Collection on Super Nintendo.
1:33:32
I guess so, yeah, I guess, I guess so.
1:33:34
I, I feel like those are glossy ports.
1:33:37
But yeah, 9 point 9.5 out of 10 for me.
1:33:44
I, I, I say hi, 9 I should give you, I should give you the value
1:33:46
9 point 9.5 out of 10. Like I'm not doing .2 fives or
1:33:51
.7 fives like 9.5 out of 10. What are you?
1:33:57
What about you, Pat? I gave it A10.
1:34:02
I liked it. It was a good follow up to
1:34:06
Metroid Prime or Not Metroid Metroid.
1:34:09
It was a good follow up to Super Metroid and I liked how the
1:34:12
areas were all elementally themed.
1:34:17
I definitely liked it when I played it.
1:34:22
I would probably say somewhere in the nines because I think
1:34:24
Metroid 0 mission is better because of nostalgia.
1:34:28
Because I suck, apparently, I think. 0 mission had the worst
1:34:36
light star spark speed spark challenges.
1:34:40
I hated those. Fair. 0.
1:34:44
Mission. That 0 mission had the worst. 0
1:34:46
mission, 0 mission had the worst speed spark challenges.
1:34:49
They were like literally you had to go through like several
1:34:54
different rooms trying to keep that speed spark to get some of
1:34:57
those items and I hated that like pixel perfect stop and go
1:35:04
motion. OK, I, I, I, I feel you on that
1:35:09
one. This is why everybody's good at
1:35:13
shine sparking though in Metro. A dread though.
1:35:15
This is why everybody is good at that shit.
1:35:19
It's true. That was easier.
1:35:22
It's true, all right. Our next game is The Legend of
1:35:27
Zelda The Wind Waker. I don't think it deserves A10.
1:35:36
I think it's like an 8 pass. The last half of the game was
1:35:41
kind of rough, to be perfectly honest.
1:35:44
Yeah, I would say 85I. I mean the the HD version was
1:35:48
better but I still wouldn't. Even if you included the HD
1:35:51
version in this, I don't think I would make give it a 10.
1:35:54
Yeah, I agree with you on the 8.5.
1:35:57
Yeah, it was great. The art style was great style
1:36:00
though, yeah. Oh style was amazing.
1:36:04
Tune link is probably one of my favorite links.
1:36:07
Yeah, but you know, where's that Wind Waker HD port to Switch and
1:36:14
switch to? I want to unplug my Wii U
1:36:15
please. I I am so tired of you teasing
1:36:19
me about that, Corey. I am so tired.
1:36:21
I I. Literally keep hanging until it
1:36:23
happens. I literally only have my Wii U
1:36:26
plugged in for Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD That's it.
1:36:30
Literally it. All right, I don't know if this
1:36:35
even count. I don't even know if this should
1:36:37
even count. Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City
1:36:39
Double pack for. The IT should not count.
1:36:42
It should not count. Let's disqualify that one.
1:36:44
Ratchet, ratchet, clank up your arsenal.
1:36:47
Oh, up your arsenal. I don't remember this.
1:36:52
I vaguely remember it I'm but if I think.
1:36:55
It's the third one. Yeah, if Game Informer gave it
1:36:58
A10, I I think I'll agree with it.
1:37:00
I, I don't remember a lot about this one.
1:37:02
If I'm, if I'm being honest with you, I was a Jack and Daxter
1:37:05
person back when Up Your Arsenal was out.
1:37:09
So I didn't really play. I've I've played I played some
1:37:11
up your Arsenal, you know, in the collection in the collected
1:37:14
edition, you know, but but I didn't become Team Ratchet and
1:37:17
Clank until Ratchet and Clank on PS4 dropped.
1:37:22
Yeah, it's kind of where I sit too.
1:37:24
It's I wasn't too familiar with the Ratchet and Clank series.
1:37:27
I know people loved these games so I can't say whether this was
1:37:34
a 10 or not. Yeah, I definitely didn't play
1:37:39
Ratchet and Clank. I've never played a Ratchet and
1:37:41
Clank game, so I couldn't tell you.
1:37:45
I was definitely a Jack and Daxter person as well.
1:37:48
Ratchet and Clank is fun. I will say that especially,
1:37:52
especially modern. Especially modern Ratchet and
1:37:54
Clank. Yeah, I it was a game I wanted
1:37:58
to get to on PlayStation 5, but I never got to it.
1:38:01
And then my PlayStation died and I got rid of it.
1:38:04
So the next game on here is Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.
1:38:12
Pat already said that was a 10 for him, right?
1:38:15
That's a 10. I definitely think it was the
1:38:18
best out of that trilogy of games.
1:38:21
I think that I think the eating mechanic and the lifting
1:38:25
mechanic was a little bit too much like the workout mechanic.
1:38:29
It's a little bit too much on that on that game.
1:38:34
I want to say high 9, but I think, but I think I'll agree
1:38:36
with you guys on 10 because yeah, as far as the trilogy went
1:38:40
for that for for that line of Grand Theft Auto, this was
1:38:44
probably the best one. I mean, just for just for the
1:38:49
simple fact alone, there was people out there trying to do
1:38:51
hot coffee. Oh God, you know hot coffee?
1:38:58
I forgot all about that. Hot coffee like.
1:39:02
No sugar. Like I still got my, I still got
1:39:05
my original copy that you can't sell because it's right today
1:39:10
now. Well.
1:39:14
What was wait, what was what was So what was about that one that
1:39:17
made it ready to a though like what what what made them?
1:39:19
That. Was that was where the hot
1:39:21
coffee data was? Yeah.
1:39:24
The data was OK, yeah, You had, you had to do some, you had to
1:39:27
do some radical stuff, OK. Radical, radical stuff, he says.
1:39:37
All right, the next game, Halo 2, man, Halo 2 was really good.
1:39:45
Was it? I don't know if it was it, I
1:39:46
don't wasn't. A 10 out of 10 Good though.
1:39:48
Compared to Halo though, was it a 10?
1:39:51
I think 3 is way. I think 3 is better than two in
1:39:53
my opinion, but two. The other thing too though is
1:39:58
that 2 ended abruptly. Like it just ends you know it
1:40:02
didn't wrap up. I feel like this game got a 10
1:40:07
out of 10 because the multiplayer was so great.
1:40:10
Honestly, like the campaign was good but like I really feel like
1:40:15
the multiplayer is what pushed it over the edge to a 10.
1:40:20
I would say like a nine. I think Halo 3 is better.
1:40:27
If we're looking at the bungee trilogy on games, I would say
1:40:33
like a nine. I wouldn't argue against A10,
1:40:36
but I think it's more of a nine in my opinion.
1:40:41
So any any thoughts from either of you on Halo 2?
1:40:47
I'm not going to, I'm not going to argue with that.
1:40:49
Like Halo, Halo 2 definitely was a, it was, it was an event,
1:40:53
let's put it that way. I was, I was working at GameStop
1:40:55
at the time. So yeah, it was an event.
1:40:57
And I feel like, and I feel like it actually lived up to its, to
1:40:59
its, to its expectation. That was the first collector's
1:41:02
edition I ever bought. Oh, really?
1:41:05
Yep, I still have my steel book. It was in a fire and it's like
1:41:11
totally shredded and burned. If I still have it.
1:41:14
Oh man, it survived. So that's that's something
1:41:20
right? Way to bring it down.
1:41:27
Resident Evil 4. No, not a 10 to me. 9.5.
1:41:37
Yeah, I this was at a time too when, like, I feel like they
1:41:42
were just figuring out what to do with like the camera
1:41:44
controls, right, with the right stick, you know, like Halo
1:41:48
proved that you could do it that way, and then Capcom didn't do
1:41:51
it that way. Plus, like shooting without
1:41:54
moving and the inverted controls were not to my liking.
1:41:59
But I do think the remake though is very good.
1:42:05
Also a 9.5 out of 10 in my in my book.
1:42:11
And no, I'm not and no, I'm not using any type of bias when I
1:42:14
say this. Like I think I I think, I think
1:42:18
the goaded Resident Evil will always be two in whatever
1:42:22
iteration you want to take it in.
1:42:29
God of War the first one for PS2.
1:42:34
It's a 10 out of 10. Say 9. 9.
1:42:38
I would say I would say A8592 I think would be a 10/2 is A10.
1:42:43
Yes, in my opinion. 2 is a 10/2 is a 10 for real.
1:42:47
So I would I would argue 3 is also a 10 but.
1:42:50
Yeah, 3 is also a 10/3 is also a 10.
1:42:53
I don't know if it's on this list or not, but we'll get
1:42:55
there. Yeah, my, my, my thing is, my
1:42:59
thing is like, you know, like God of War.
1:43:01
God of War gets merit though, because like, it did something,
1:43:04
it did something new with the Devil May Cry formula it.
1:43:08
Did do that The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess?
1:43:17
Perfect, Ken. I've never played it, so I've
1:43:20
never played it, so I can't really.
1:43:23
As my favorite, one of my favorite games of all time, I
1:43:25
would argue on any given day it might be my favorite game of all
1:43:28
time. It's a game that means a lot to
1:43:30
me just in life. But even though the dungeons are
1:43:39
like the best dungeons in the Zelda series, I feel like by far
1:43:43
there's a lot of filler in that game.
1:43:46
There is a lot of filler. I would say it's probably a
1:43:51
nine. I think the end kind of drags on
1:43:55
a little bit also, but yeah, I don't know.
1:44:02
I, I, I would say it was a nine GameCube version's better than
1:44:07
the Wii version. They did fix a lot of stuff in
1:44:10
the HD version, though. All right, Bioshock.
1:44:15
I'll I'll agree Bioshock was a 10. 10.
1:44:24
I have no opinion on Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare
1:44:32
10. Yeah.
1:44:35
It was actually pretty good. Yeah, I liked the campaign a
1:44:40
lot. I played a lot of that
1:44:41
multiplayer also, and that came out at a time, right when it
1:44:47
came out, like two months after Halo 3 and everybody was like
1:44:50
floored at how much deeper it was than Halo 3 in terms of
1:44:56
progression and stuff. Grand Theft Auto 4.
1:45:02
Where you know what, you know what?
1:45:04
I'm I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to
1:45:06
backtrack what I said earlier. It's this is a 10.
1:45:10
It's a 10. I'm not going to backtrack with
1:45:12
it because I, because I mean, like, I, I would look, I would
1:45:15
look foolish if I turned around and said, yeah, what I said
1:45:17
about what I said about Grand Theft Auto, Vice City, you know?
1:45:22
Yeah, I would say it's like an 8 1/2 for me.
1:45:28
I think the I think the game doesn't control very well, but
1:45:34
that's just my opinion, I guess. Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the
1:45:39
Patriots. No, this is a 9.5.
1:45:43
No, this is a nine. I've never played it, so I can't
1:45:47
tell you played it. This is a wait, did you say you
1:45:50
never played it? Pat?
1:45:52
No. OK.
1:45:52
As a as a as a Metal Gear Solid fan.
1:45:55
As a Metal Gear Solid fan, this game was this game was way too
1:46:00
complicated for what it need to be, you know, and, and, and I'm
1:46:03
not and, and people are are, are thinking like, are people
1:46:06
probably scratching their heads when I say that?
1:46:08
Like there was a lot going on in this game.
1:46:12
And, and it's, it's hard for me to, it's hard for me to really
1:46:16
quantify it, but Kojima had Kojima had one job here.
1:46:21
And that was to that was to in the into like finish the story
1:46:25
of, of, of Dave Solid Snake, that guy, you know, which he
1:46:31
did. But it was so complicated
1:46:33
because like he was trying. It was basically a whole thing
1:46:37
of like you had to play like Metal Gear from the MSX.
1:46:40
And I said the MSX specifically because there was different,
1:46:43
because there was things that was specifically in the MSX
1:46:46
version of Metal Gear that was not in the NES version of Metal
1:46:48
Gear. Yeah.
1:46:52
And so it was one of those, it was one of those things where
1:46:54
like, I know this is in my opinion, Metal Gear Solid 4 is
1:46:58
like, is like Kojima's opus for grand opus for the Metal Gear
1:47:01
series. But you know.
1:47:05
Yeah. This is, this is a, this is a,
1:47:08
this is a nine. I mean, they're the people
1:47:11
giving because Game Informer isn't the only magazine or
1:47:15
outlet that gave the 10. Like I think there was way too
1:47:17
much honorary like stuff going on for this game.
1:47:20
Yeah, this definitely felt like almost like when a news now that
1:47:24
comes out, everybody gives it a 10 just because it's Zelda,
1:47:26
right? Like this feels like Metal Gear
1:47:28
gets a 10 because it's Metal Gear.
1:47:30
I mean, I mean, I can tell, I can tell you alone because like
1:47:33
because GameStop was, GameStop was getting all the early
1:47:36
previews and stuff like for this game, like everybody got nerd
1:47:39
boners when they saw Ninja riding.
1:47:41
Everybody got nerd boners immediately.
1:47:44
They're like, I don't care what's going on in this game,
1:47:46
I'm buying it. All right, so 17, Uncharted 2,
1:47:56
it's definitely the best Uncharted game.
1:47:59
I I I agree, but a 10? I would say like an, I would say
1:48:06
like a nine. It's a nine point. 5 It's a 9.5.
1:48:10
I would, yeah, I would say like a nine.
1:48:12
It's a 10. OK, I don't know.
1:48:14
That isn't A10. I'd say it's a 10.
1:48:20
This, this was, this was the start of Uncharted games being
1:48:23
way too long. This was a start.
1:48:25
And that's not a complaint. If you want to hear a complaint
1:48:27
about a long Uncharted game, talk to Ed.
1:48:30
He will. He will.
1:48:32
He will give you the rundown on on a long Uncharted game.
1:48:36
Yeah, God of War three we already talked about.
1:48:40
That's a 10. God of War 3 is a 10.
1:48:42
God of War 3 is amazing. StarCraft 2, I didn't play it.
1:48:48
You know, you know what if we look at the entire, if we look
1:48:53
at the entire package, like technically there was really
1:48:55
three campaigns. If we look at the entire package
1:48:57
of the two campaigns, it's a 10. If you put it all together
1:49:02
because, because StarCraft 2 and you know when they reviewed it,
1:49:07
no, that's a nine. Yeah, I never played it, so I
1:49:13
can't tell. Any thoughts, Pat?
1:49:17
Before we move on, let's fly through the rest of these
1:49:18
because we. Yeah, Batman's Batman, I would
1:49:21
say, is probably a 10. Arkham City, make sure you say
1:49:25
that. Arkham City, That's a 10, yeah.
1:49:27
Batman Arkham City, yeah is very good.
1:49:31
Skyward Sword, The Legend of Zelda.
1:49:32
Skyward Sword is not a 10. That is, that is it.
1:49:35
That is it. 8 at best as far as I'm concerned.
1:49:38
Yeah, it was OK, not a 10. Mass Fact 3. 9.5.
1:49:46
Not me at 9. Mass Effect 3 is amazing.
1:49:49
I would. Probably Mass Effect 3 is
1:49:50
amazing, but not not ten, not ten.
1:49:52
Amazing Bioshock. Infinite. 9/9.
1:49:59
I have no opinion, I did not play it.
1:50:02
A Link Between Worlds The Legend of Zelda Link Between Worlds.
1:50:05
They gave us A10, they gave us a 10.
1:50:08
Yeah, I think that gave us amazing.
1:50:10
I think it's a high. I I I say high 9, but you know,
1:50:15
if you guys, if you guys, if you guys have consensus, I will say
1:50:18
it's a 10. I enjoyed it.
1:50:20
I enjoyed it, but I feel like it didn't, it didn't scratch my
1:50:23
itch of a, of a of a what's McCall went to the past.
1:50:26
It didn't scratch my itch. It it came close but it didn't
1:50:29
scratch my itch. The last was remastered.
1:50:34
They gave the remastered, they gave it A10, they gave the
1:50:36
remastered A10. Yeah.
1:50:40
The remit the PS4. One yeah, the PS4 one I will
1:50:42
give it a 10 also because I was because I give the original A10.
1:50:47
OK Overwatch, never played it. I would say, I would say
1:50:52
Overwatch, especially when it came out was a 10 that came.
1:50:55
Overwatch Overwatch revolutionized what the what
1:50:59
these team shooters are all about.
1:51:01
Yeah, I would say Overwatch. Is 10/10.
1:51:05
The legend result of. Oh, go, I'd go, go.
1:51:08
I I don't need. We got.
1:51:10
We we got. Ron, we have 3 1/2 minutes left.
1:51:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:51:14
The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild is A10 in my opinion.
1:51:18
If you say so. I'd give it a nine.
1:51:24
Red Dead Redemption 2. Ten.
1:51:26
That is a 10. That's a 10.
1:51:28
That's probably the 10 of this entire list.
1:51:32
The last was Part 2. 8.5 maybe a nine maybe maybe.
1:51:39
High 9. I feel like the you say hi 9.
1:51:42
The game is it's too long. Elden Ring.
1:51:49
This should be a 10 on principle but I I feel this is 9.5.
1:51:54
It's not a 10 to me. Astrobot, yes.
1:52:04
Pat was waiting. Pat was waiting for this moment
1:52:07
all night. It's perfect.
1:52:12
It's. An 11 Wow best game on this
1:52:18
list. Jeez.
1:52:21
We, we, we have one more. Game Hades 2 is the last game on
1:52:26
this list. I don't, I don't know if it's a
1:52:28
10. I haven't even played it.
1:52:31
That's the sad part. I think Hades was a 10 which
1:52:35
Hades wasn't even on this list. Yeah.
1:52:39
As a it's. A well made game, but it's not a
1:52:42
10. Yeah, yeah.
1:52:46
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1:52:49
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