Latest / The Catholic Current / Novel Prophecies Pt. 3 - Benson’s “Lord of the World” (Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J.) 7/31/26
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- 0:00This is The Catholic Current with Father Robert McTague.
- 0:04One of the reasons we read these great stories is because it
- 0:09can expand our moral imagination and help us to expect
- 0:13more of ourselves and one another, of God. The key thing about literature in
- 0:16general, it shows us not merely who we are,
- 0:19but who we should be and who we shouldn't be. I can't remember who it
- 0:22was who said, I read the newspapers avidly, it's my only source of continual
- 0:26fiction. If you want truth instead of
- 0:30fiction, don't read the newspapers. Read the great novels.
- 0:36Praise be Jesus Christ. This is Father Robert McTeague of the Society of Jesus,
- 0:39your daily host for The Catholic Current, where we bring Christ to the world and
- 0:43the world to Christ. You're listening to us from the Station of the Cross Studios,
- 0:45your local radio station, and the iCatholic Radio mobile app.
- 0:49We proclaim the fullness of truth with clarity and charity.
- 0:53As always, let's start with prayer. In the name of the Father, Son, and the
- 0:57Holy Spirit. Almighty God, through the intercession of Saint Ignatius Loyola, we ask that you
- 1:01pour forth your Holy Spirit upon us, a spirit of discernment
- 1:05that might hear your voice and obey your command. In the name of the Father,
- 1:08Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Well, here it is, Friday, and on
- 1:12the Catholic Current, that means another round of Let's Talk About This, you and me
- 1:15walking through a complex issue together. You want to stay with us for the whole
- 1:18hour because we end up with Weekend Readiness, reviewing the headlines of the week
- 1:22in light of the upcoming Sunday scriptures. So we'll be all prayed up for Sunday
- 1:26Mass. You know, we've been in this continuing series called
- 1:30Novel Prophecies, where we look at some great
- 1:34literature, especially what might be called apocalyptic
- 1:38or dystopian literature, and use it not
- 1:43as a vehicle for despair but as reasons
- 1:46for hope, and also as a way of interpreting our
- 1:50here and now. And it's mostly Catholic sources, but not
- 1:55entirely. We started And I'm trying
- 1:58to do this roughly in chronological order.
- 2:01So we started with Napoleon of Notting Hill by G.K.
- 2:05Chesterton, published in 1904, and then
- 2:09Savolyov's A Short History of the Antichrist, published in
- 2:121900, the year he died, but it wasn't in English until 1915.
- 2:17And now we're looking at author Robert Hugh Benson and
- 2:21his novel Lord of the World, which was published in 1907.
- 2:27And my goodness, the things that it foresaw. But I
- 2:31wanna talk about him as a person first. He only lived
- 2:35to the age of 42. He worked himself to death, and he
- 2:39did that without being a Jesuit. So my hat goes off
- 2:43to him. He was a Catholic priest. He was a novelist,
- 2:46religious writer, renowned as a preacher. He was
- 2:50the son of the Archbishop of Canterbury, and Benson
- 2:55went to Cambridge, studied the classics, was ordained
- 2:59in the Anglican Church, caused quite a start by
- 3:04converting to Catholicism, studied in Rome, and was
- 3:07ordained a Catholic priest. So he started
- 3:11writing novels relatively early in his life. The first was Lord
- 3:15of the World. And it's a novel depicting
- 3:19a future secular world government and the rise
- 3:22of the Antichrist. So, you know, I'm, I'm all about
- 3:26that. And then there's a sequel which I only discovered recently called The Darn
- 3:30of All, which we'll talk about next week. He's best
- 3:34known for his book called Come Rack, Come Rope, and that's
- 3:38about the persecution of English Catholics under Elizabeth I.
- 3:42And then there's a book that I, I have on Kindle I'm
- 3:46gonna see if I have time to read it,
- 3:49called The Necromancers, and it's exploring
- 3:53spiritual warfare and the occult.
- 3:56So he was a great man. He was a convert.
- 3:59His conversion cost him a great deal,
- 4:03so I admire him for that. I wanna talk a little
- 4:06bit about why I'm turning to novels. Now,
- 4:10I was in school for a very long time. I told my students I was
- 4:14in school until 23rd grade, And I took
- 4:18a broad and very deep dive in philosophy and
- 4:23theology as well, to a lesser degree. Didn't study a
- 4:27lot of great literature. I know my senior year I had a course
- 4:31called Varieties of the Modern Novel. My first 2 years of undergraduate
- 4:36studies were at Seton Hall University, and they had a
- 4:39great books program that I had for 4 semesters, and I did read some,
- 4:42some great literature there. I've always loved stories.
- 4:46I love telling stories. I love hearing stories. One of my treats
- 4:50growing up was hearing my father tell stories at the dinner table.
- 4:54So I know there's a very great power to story,
- 4:58and sometimes stories are the only way to get the
- 5:02point across. I mean, somebody asked Flannery O'Connor why
- 5:05she wrote short stories and novels, and she said, well, first of all, I'm good
- 5:09at them. Secondly, I enjoy it. And third, there are some
- 5:13things that I want to say that it can only be told in this medium.
- 5:17And for an academic like me, my inclination
- 5:21is to explain and
- 5:25to show why what is true is in fact true.
- 5:30And I've discovered over the years, to the breaking of my
- 5:34heart, that most people don't learn that way.
- 5:37And you really do have to engage the imagination and
- 5:42the emotions. And one of the ways to get people
- 5:45interested to go in deeper is to win them over with a powerful and compelling
- 5:50story. So I want to do this series
- 5:53on novel prophecies, again, not because I figured
- 5:58out the date of the end of the world or anything like that. Don't trust
- 6:01anyone who knows the day or the hour. Our Lord said only our Heavenly
- 6:05Father knows that. But I want to expose us to stories that
- 6:09were written very long ago,
- 6:12often by Catholics, sometimes not, that give us a way of
- 6:16understanding our own particular here and now.
- 6:19And one of the things that struck me about this novel written
- 6:22in 1907 was that there were passages
- 6:27of it that sound like headlines or editorials,
- 6:32or in some cases, God save
- 6:35us, uh, documents from Roman dicasteries
- 6:39and Vatican bureaucrats and synodal study
- 6:42groups. Oh my goodness, we're going to have to talk a
- 6:46lot about that. This novel isn't very long and just take
- 6:50you a couple of hours to read. Someone whose opinion
- 6:54I trust very much doesn't like the novel because she says the characters
- 6:57aren't very well developed, and that's fair, but this
- 7:01is more of a plot-driven novel. It's more a novel
- 7:05of ideas rather than thrilling and unforgettable
- 7:08characters. This is not quite like reading Charles
- 7:12Dickens. So Benson is writing this novel.
- 7:16Why? Because he's come out of the 19th century,
- 7:21and in the 19th century there's still the ripple effects of the French
- 7:24Revolution. There's the rise of Darwin, there's the
- 7:28rise of Marxism, there's the rise of Freud.
- 7:32It's the rise of revolutions and the
- 7:36claim of those who want to follow Science,
- 7:39capital S, later known as the science,
- 7:44says that religion, God,
- 7:48faith, you really don't need that for addressing
- 7:52the important questions and the important tasks.
- 7:55Although later in the novel, to my horror,
- 7:59they discover that, you know, but there's something about
- 8:03human nature that kind of needs to worship. So we're gonna
- 8:06make up a liturgy from scratch.
- 8:10Designed by top men, top men,
- 8:14and they're smart and they have credentials and they have a
- 8:18committee and they're going to design a
- 8:22liturgy that will address the needs of modern
- 8:26man. Does any of that sound familiar?
- 8:30Unfortunately, this is just audio, so I can't ask
- 8:34for a change of hands, and where I'm sitting,
- 8:38I can't see Mr. Engineer, but I imagine He's nodding
- 8:42his head. So that— now remember, the book is
- 8:45written in 1907. It's set in the late 20th century,
- 8:50and you've got a unified Europe under an international
- 8:54humanistic order. And what could be identified
- 8:58as traditional Christianity has pretty much disappeared from
- 9:02public life. Uh, national loyalties and identities
- 9:06have faded. Euthanasia socially accepted,
- 9:11and religion at most has become a
- 9:15private sentiment, a vibe, and the dominant
- 9:19creed is humanitarian progress,
- 9:23or to borrow a phrase from our friends in Rome,
- 9:26integral human development. And the question
- 9:30becomes, what happens What happens to
- 9:34faithful Catholics in that world? And for the
- 9:38humanitarians, driven ultimately by a person,
- 9:42Julian Felsenberg, who is— we
- 9:46discover later is the Antichrist— how do they regard
- 9:50faithful Catholics? Well, let me give you a hint. They regard them as
- 9:53the problem. They regard them as the scapegoat.
- 9:58And ultimately faithful Catholics have to
- 10:02be eliminated. They're in the way,
- 10:06they're troublemakers, and they keep asking
- 10:10awkward questions. And those darn faithful Catholics,
- 10:14they won't cooperate, they won't sing along,
- 10:19they won't embrace the new religion,
- 10:23they won't embrace the new morality.
- 10:27And while we're waiting for the utopia to be built here on
- 10:31earth, there's going to be frustrations, and you got
- 10:35to take out your frustrations on somebody. So the world
- 10:39decides to take out their frustration on
- 10:43faithful Catholics. Does any of that sound familiar to
- 10:47you? Do you want to jump up and call the Station of the Cross and
- 10:51say, cut that out, Father, that could never happen, what are you talking about?
- 10:55Well, I don't think we're going to get any of those phone calls today.
- 10:58I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTeague, your host here every day at The Catholic Current.
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- 12:53thestationofthecross.com. Well, here we are
- 12:57Friday. Let's talk about this. We're in part 3 of our
- 13:00ongoing series, Novel Prophecies. We're talking about Robert
- 13:05Hume Benson's book Lord of the World. Let's, let's go through the
- 13:09book. And written in 1907,
- 13:12set far into the 20th century.
- 13:17And what you have is a world that is apparently
- 13:22enlightened, peaceful,
- 13:24technologically advanced, and it's
- 13:29governed by an aggressive secularism and
- 13:33a culture that seems determined to replace
- 13:37God with humanity itself.
- 13:41Almost as if— because some readers who've read this
- 13:45novel said, well, it seems that the emphasis is on magnificent
- 13:50humanity as divine rather than the transcendent
- 13:55God, the Trinitarian God, as the true transcendent
- 13:59God. Well, that's a bit of
- 14:03a problem because humanitarianism becomes a substitute
- 14:07religion. It doesn't matter what your prior
- 14:12religious commitments have been. We're taking everyone's
- 14:17attention away from all of that and
- 14:21focusing it on ourselves. I, I believe— I'm going
- 14:25to ask Mr. Engineer to look this up for me— it was the poet Alexander
- 14:29Pope who said the proper object of study for
- 14:33man is man. Well, the powers that be
- 14:37in this novel would agree with that, and this is where Benson is
- 14:43trying to sound the alarm. He's trying to distinguish
- 14:47genuine Christian charity from secular
- 14:52humanitarianism that kind of retains the Christian ethical
- 14:56language but rejecting God. Let me
- 15:00give you an example. Early in the novel,
- 15:03there is a woman, Mabel Brand,
- 15:07who is the husband— I assume is the wife of Oliver Brand, who's an up-and-coming
- 15:11member of Parliament. And she's out for a walk outside,
- 15:16and a plane falls out of the sky,
- 15:20and there's wreckage, and there's broken bodies, uh,
- 15:24and so on. Let me read this to you.
- 15:27Mabel scarcely knew what happened next, but she found herself a
- 15:31moment later forced forward by some violent pressure from behind.
- 15:35Till she stood shaking from head to foot with some kind of
- 15:39smashed body of a man moaning and stretching
- 15:42at her feet. There was sort of an articulate language
- 15:47coming from it. She caught distinctly the names
- 15:51of Jesus and Mary. Then a voice hissed
- 15:55suddenly in her ears, let me through, I am a
- 15:59priest. She stood there a moment longer
- 16:03dazed by the suddenness of the whole affair, and watched
- 16:07almost unintelligently the gray-haired young priest
- 16:11on his knees with his coat torn open
- 16:15and a crucifix out. She saw him bend close,
- 16:18wave his hand in a swift sign, and heard a murmur of a
- 16:22language she did not know. Then he was up
- 16:25again, holding the crucifix before him, and she saw him begin to
- 16:29move forward into the midst of the red-flooded pavement.
- 16:33Looking this way and that as if for a signal.
- 16:37Down the steps of the great hospital on her right came figures
- 16:41running now, hatless, each carrying what looked like an
- 16:45old-fashioned camera. She knew what those men
- 16:49were, and her heart leaped in relief.
- 16:52They were the ministers of euthanasia.
- 16:58Think about that. The ministers
- 17:02of euthanasia. By the way, I want to thank Mr. Engineer.
- 17:06It was from Alexander Pope in his essay on man, the proper
- 17:09study of mankind is man. So it was taken
- 17:13for granted that euthanasia was exclusively
- 17:18a form of mercy, and that whenever there's
- 17:22a crisis or disaster, the people who are to be welcomed first
- 17:25are the ministers of euthanasia.
- 17:30By the way, I believe it's in Canada, which is kind of leading the charge
- 17:33in the cult of euthanasia, that if you're going to be euthanized for whatever
- 17:37reason, rather than just being injected with poison, why not be euthanized
- 17:41by letting us take your organs?
- 17:45That's already under discussion in Canada.
- 17:48So what we see in this novel is a primacy
- 17:53of humanitarianism a complete denial of
- 17:57the transcendent. The Church is a faithful remnant.
- 18:01The faithful remnant really is centered around
- 18:05the Eucharist, not self-esteem and not
- 18:10listening, but the Eucharist. And Felsenberg,
- 18:13who's the Antichrist figure, his promises are—
- 18:17tell me if you've heard these emphasized before— promises
- 18:22of unity, dialogue and tolerance
- 18:26and peace, but not a peace that's
- 18:30rooted in the revelation of Christ,
- 18:35but a peace that comes from humans through
- 18:39human effort, focusing and absolutizing
- 18:44exclusively their humanity.
- 18:48So you can see why,
- 18:51um, as I was reading this, I said, gosh,
- 18:54a lot of this sounds familiar. Now, uh, there are some
- 18:58people who've told me that this reminds them of some of the more facile accounts
- 19:03of synodality. Now, in fairness, the word synodality never appears in
- 19:08the novel. It's not what ordinary Catholics talked about in, in 1907.
- 19:13But the, uh, the movement of the Antichrist in
- 19:17this novel uses language of
- 19:20universal consensus, unity,
- 19:24inclusion, and overcoming divisions.
- 19:29And that— doesn't that bear at least a family resemblance
- 19:34to, you know, the journeying together, the building communion,
- 19:37and so on? So Benson says, look, unity is
- 19:40a fine thing, but unity without
- 19:44Christ is really quite
- 19:48dangerous. And I, I would say yes,
- 19:52and that's why I think we need to
- 19:57read this novel again,
- 20:00because I think that there are Catholic cadres of the
- 20:04People Who Should Really Know Better Club who apparently haven't
- 20:08read this novel and are moving us in directions that ended badly.
- 20:12Uh, in, in the novel. Uh, the other main character
- 20:15is Father Percy Franklin, and his
- 20:19claim is that Catholicism gives the only adequate
- 20:23explanation of the universe, and that the
- 20:28difficulties that we have— and we do have difficulties— those are resolved
- 20:32in eternity rather than in time. They're reserved— they're resolved in
- 20:36heaven rather than utopia.
- 20:40And Father Franklin wants to warn us against
- 20:44a false peace. And the false peace
- 20:49is not because we've got this, you know, why can't we all just
- 20:53get along singing rousing choruses of Imagine by
- 20:57John Lennon. But the peace is brought about primarily
- 21:02by extinguishing, quite literally,
- 21:06the people who, um, who are
- 21:10the faithful Catholic remnant. Get this, um,
- 21:14the, the faithful Catholic remnant is
- 21:18asked to basically give a loyalty
- 21:21oath in which they renounce the traditional
- 21:25faith and then are expected, under penalty
- 21:29of imprisonment and fines, to attend the new man-centered
- 21:36worship. And again, I talk to people who say, Father,
- 21:39this just sounds really very
- 21:43familiar, and the
- 21:47mandatory humanism of the state and the culture
- 21:52wants to include everybody except
- 21:55those who are unwilling to surrender revealed doctrine.
- 22:00Everyone is included except the faithful
- 22:04Catholic remnant. And so ultimately Catholics
- 22:09are hunted down for extermination because
- 22:13the claim is society can be made inclusive
- 22:18only by precisely excluding the
- 22:22Church. I don't know.
- 22:25Some of this is starting to sound familiar. Some of it
- 22:30is sounding unsettling.
- 22:33Certainly, we see hysteria when, you know, a courthouse wants
- 22:37to put up the Ten Commandments, for example, or if,
- 22:41you know, a kid making a high school valedictory speech at
- 22:45graduation wants to mention God. You know,
- 22:49that becomes a really big problem.
- 22:52And, you know, for the sake of inclusion. So what's
- 22:57the, the moral of the story here? Uh, Father Benson wants
- 23:02us to criticize any claims
- 23:06or attempts or movements towards unity when the price
- 23:10of that unity is the sacrifice of revealed
- 23:14truth. And the work of the Antichrist
- 23:17in this novel is an absolutized
- 23:21ideal of humanity,
- 23:24but with no reference to Christ at all.
- 23:28And you see, and that's what I find so frightening and
- 23:32so disturbing about this novel,
- 23:35is that the bad guys seem
- 23:39very reasonable, very sober,
- 23:44very polite, very calm, and then you
- 23:48hear the backroom conversations about,
- 23:52yeah, we really are gonna have to exterminate people.
- 23:56And the powers that be really
- 24:00don't have much to say when their actions
- 24:04and the court jesters of the popular culture whip
- 24:09the mob into a frenzy. And the
- 24:13mob starts burning churches. I'm looking
- 24:18at you, Canada, and start acting violently
- 24:22against Catholics in particular.
- 24:25So I think there are some lessons here for us.
- 24:29There are people who are members of the people who should know better club who
- 24:33are willing to backpedal Revelation for the sake
- 24:37of humanistic purposes And there are powerful entities
- 24:42that see Catholics at best,
- 24:46at best, as expendable.
- 24:51And we can't be naive.
- 24:54I believe this is the world we're living in today. I'm Jesuit Father Robert
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- 26:55our Catholic faith. Here we are Friday. Let's talk about this. We're in
- 26:58part 3 of our ongoing series called Novel
- 27:02Prophecies. We're looking at Lord of the World by Robert
- 27:06Hugh Benson. Well, where do we go from here? Well, there's a couple of texts
- 27:10I want to cite for you and then offer some comments, uh, on them.
- 27:13And again, this just— in my edition, this novel is only 120
- 27:16pages. You could read this relatively quickly,
- 27:20and I also think that you can bring it to prayer.
- 27:24A couple of lines. The main character, Father Franklin,
- 27:28is reflecting on the promise of the Antichrist
- 27:32figure, Felsenberg. He said, and he writes that it
- 27:37was in fact the Catholic idea with the supernatural left
- 27:41out, a union of earthly fortunes,
- 27:45an abandonment of individualism on the one side, and of
- 27:49supernaturalism on the other. It was treason to
- 27:53appeal from God immanent to God transcendent. There was no
- 27:57God transcendent. God, as far as
- 28:01he could be known, was man.
- 28:07Oof. And then another line here talking
- 28:12about the promises of peace, peace, and peace, and peace.
- 28:15And remember, the scriptures talk about the peace that surpasses
- 28:20all understanding. He says, but this peace arose
- 28:24from, not past, understanding.
- 28:27The peace that sprang from a knowledge that man was
- 28:31all and able to develop himself only by
- 28:35sympathy with his fault— with his fellow.
- 28:39So, you know, fellowship, fellowship, fellowship,
- 28:43unity, unity, unity. Dialogue,
- 28:45dialogue, dialogue. And not only
- 28:49is there no need for Christ, there's no
- 28:53room for Christ. He gets in the
- 28:57way. I want to talk about the role of worship in this book because
- 29:01boy oh boy is it disturbing. It's really clear that a
- 29:04lot of the shenanigans taking place on the world stage according
- 29:08to this novel are by the Masons.
- 29:11Or as the stonecutters, as they would say in,
- 29:15in The Simpsons. Make of that what you will,
- 29:19but there's a scandal when very many priests are
- 29:24walking away from priestly ministry for
- 29:28a variety of reasons, and they are interested
- 29:32in helping out with the new secular humanist world order.
- 29:36And Felsenberg, the Antichrist figure,
- 29:39decides that, look, there's something about human nature that wants
- 29:43worship and that wants ritual. So all these
- 29:47ex-priests, or priests who walked away, or apostate priests go
- 29:52to the government, said, we can help with that. We know something about ritual
- 29:56and vestments and ceremonies, so we're going to be— we're going
- 30:00to be the masters of ceremony for this secular
- 30:04religion. And so there's an unveiling of a statue of
- 30:09man and there's an unveiling of a statue of woman and
- 30:14things about the elements and et cetera, et cetera. And I've had readers,
- 30:18excuse me, listeners who've read this novel said, Father, when I read
- 30:22this novel, I thought of a certain party who was, you know,
- 30:26putting his hand in prayer on a block of ice.
- 30:30And I said, well, let's, Let's be careful about those
- 30:34associations. Let's not deny them,
- 30:38but let's be careful about them. So the claim— and
- 30:42remember, this is a book written in 1907 where he's trying
- 30:45to identify trends— is that this new
- 30:49thing, this new species of humanity called modern
- 30:53man, is someone who
- 30:57wants to and needs to and must take
- 31:01his eyes off of Christ and
- 31:06need to step away from the Eucharist. Now,
- 31:10when I was growing up in, in the '70s and the '80s, I was told
- 31:15that the trouble with our worship, you know, at Mass was
- 31:18that it was worship and that
- 31:23it was too Christ-centered and certainly
- 31:26too Eucharist-centered. And I remember
- 31:30talking to a laywoman who was director of liturgy at
- 31:35campus ministry at a self-identified Catholic school,
- 31:39and she wanted to wean the students away from
- 31:43this predominant focus on the Eucharist. You know,
- 31:47suffice to say, the tabernacle had already been relocated into
- 31:52what students called the penalty box, and the church
- 31:56had been rearranged against the architecture into
- 32:00a theater in the round. And she wanted to talk to the students
- 32:04about what she called the many presences of
- 32:09Christ. And so rather than focusing on
- 32:13genuflecting before the Blessed Sacrament, et cetera,
- 32:16to put their hands together and bow to one another.
- 32:21As, you know, members of the body of Christ.
- 32:26They didn't do the yoga namaste, but they,
- 32:29they could have. So I said, all right, let's, let's have a little fun with
- 32:32this. Let's be— I don't know what's the word I'm looking for— in Jesuitical.
- 32:36So I said, yeah, many presences of Christ.
- 32:38So Christ is present in the word.
- 32:43So, you know, a bow to To
- 32:47the lectionary? Well, okay. And Christ is symbolized and
- 32:51present in the altar. All right,
- 32:55so bowing to the altar. And I said,
- 32:59and Christ is present in a particular way in
- 33:02persona Christi, alter Christus,
- 33:07in persona Christi capiti, in the person of
- 33:10Christ as the head of the body. So you're all going
- 33:14to make a bow of reverence to me, right?
- 33:18Well, she didn't want that.
- 33:21So that whole celebrating of the many presences of Christ went
- 33:25away. And so Ratzinger,
- 33:29Benedict, had warned about this years ago. He talked about the Catholic circle
- 33:33being a contradiction of terms. And the way that I would summarize it, it's,
- 33:37you know, getting together to celebrate us in all of our
- 33:40us-ness. And I think that one
- 33:44of the maladies we suffer from is we don't have,
- 33:48I don't know, a proper focus, a proper orientation
- 33:55in our worship. I know there are people who tell us— true
- 33:59story— a friend of mine worked at a self-identified Catholic college,
- 34:04and the laypeople running campus ministry wanted to
- 34:09have an emergency meeting. Why? Because there
- 34:13were students who were requesting holy hours and
- 34:17benediction, and the laypeople were against it
- 34:21because of what it might lead to. So Father
- 34:26asked, well, what might it lead to? They said, well, it might
- 34:29lead to silence, and it might encourage
- 34:34people to come into the chapel even
- 34:38when no one else is there,
- 34:41even when nothing is happening.
- 34:45And Father asked, well, why is that bad? Why is that
- 34:49a problem? Well, that would undercut our community,
- 34:54our emphasis on community in worship. We, we want
- 34:57to have a community-centered experience. We want to foster a
- 35:02lively sense of community.
- 35:05And someone sitting in the pew by himself,
- 35:08just with God, would undercut that.
- 35:12Well, that's when he realized he was dealing with crazy people, or at least people
- 35:16who were ill-formed theologically, but they also had the keys to the
- 35:20church and to where the, you know, the back
- 35:23storage closet where the monstrance would have been kept.
- 35:26So he said he would take care of it himself to make sure that people
- 35:29didn't get carried away. So you see how that goes?
- 35:36We end up prioritizing something other than Christ
- 35:40in our unity, community, fellowship,
- 35:45inclusion, and Christ is
- 35:49allowed on board to the degree that
- 35:53he can validate our prior
- 35:57commitments. I mean, this is something that C.S. Lewis was writing about in the
- 36:01Screwtape Letters in the '40s. He called it Christianity
- 36:05and. Christianity and
- 36:09the new whatever. Christianity and the present crisis. He's even said
- 36:14Christianity and spelling reform.
- 36:17The important thing he said was that the and began to predominate.
- 36:21So it wasn't Christianity and the new humanism,
- 36:25Christianity and the present crisis, but it was Christianity
- 36:29in the service of, in subordination
- 36:34to the prior political or social
- 36:38cause. And in the novel, the trouble with
- 36:41the faithful Catholics was they didn't want Christ
- 36:45subordinated to anybody. And that's what the powers
- 36:49that be saw as a problem.
- 36:53Oliver Brand, who's a main character in the novel, he's in Parliament
- 36:57and he's all in. And he just
- 37:01didn't understand why Catholics remained Catholics. And here
- 37:05in the novel it's written, he too had wondered once or twice in his
- 37:08life how human beings could believe such rubbish,
- 37:12but psychology had helped him, and he knew
- 37:16now well enough that suggestion will do almost anything.
- 37:20And it was this hateful thing that had so
- 37:24long restrained the euthanasia movement with
- 37:28all its splendid mercy.
- 37:31You see, the humanists wanted to be sovereign over
- 37:36life and death and sovereign over good
- 37:40and evil, and Christ and
- 37:44faithful disciples of Christ would get in the
- 37:48way of that. Even if they were just a faithful
- 37:52remnant and ignored, It would show that the excessive
- 37:56secular humanism was not inevitable.
- 38:01There was an alternative for which people were willing to sacrifice,
- 38:06and that becomes embarrassing.
- 38:09Now, what's also interesting too is that Mabel Brand, the wife of parliamentarian
- 38:13Oliver Brand, she is absolutely for gung-ho for
- 38:18Felsenberg. The Antichrist, because he's going to bring real
- 38:21peace, real peace, real peace. And then
- 38:25she realizes that the secular humanists
- 38:29are going to have a very violent— not just a purge or a pogrom,
- 38:33but an absolute extermination of
- 38:37the Catholics. They either have to surrender their faith,
- 38:41surrender worship, and cooperate with the state's
- 38:46secular worship, or they would be killed. And she
- 38:50despairs because the promises of peace
- 38:54and brotherhood weren't fulfilled. And if it couldn't
- 38:58be fulfilled by humans like Felsenberg,
- 39:03then there was no hope at all that,
- 39:07uh, humanity would never have real
- 39:11peace. And it didn't occur to her to
- 39:15ever turn to Christ. That had been ruled out of bounds a
- 39:19priori. And so she turned to the human solution,
- 39:23which didn't work. And I don't want to give anything away.
- 39:27I will simply say that she is moved in the direction
- 39:31of despair. So,
- 39:35you know, we're warned in the scriptures, beware of those who say peace,
- 39:39peace, when there is no peace. There is
- 39:43peace available, but it is rooted
- 39:46in accepting Christ as King,
- 39:50Christ worthy as worship,
- 39:54Christ as ruler of heaven and earth.
- 39:59I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTaggart, your host here every day of The Catholic Current.
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- 41:36of truth with clarity and charity. Hey friends, it's the last segment
- 41:39of Friday here at The Catholic Current. You know what that means— you and me,
- 41:42week in readiness, reviewing the headlines of the week in light of the upcoming Sunday
- 41:46scripture so we'll be all prayed up for Sunday Mass. I have lost
- 41:50track of the number of times that The war with Iran
- 41:53has started and stopped and started and stopped. I think
- 41:57we're on stop mode again. Can't be 100% certain.
- 42:01Uh, Dr. Anthony Fauci, America's doctor, is testifying
- 42:06before the Senate regarding the origins of COVID
- 42:10and the response to COVID. And apparently some of his personal
- 42:15diaries have been subpoenaed and It seems that it
- 42:20doesn't show him in a very flattering light. I know Senator Rand Paul
- 42:24has, has gone after him in an aggressive way, and Dr. Fauci has invoked
- 42:28his Fifth Amendment rights. I think the count I heard was 111
- 42:33times. That just seems like an awful lot to me. So,
- 42:37uh, I'm not sure about that. Senator Fetterman is dropping hints that
- 42:41he might leave the Democratic Party. That could be
- 42:45interesting. Gosh, where else?
- 42:49Uh, Cardinal Roach of the Dicastery for Divine Worship
- 42:53has said that Pope Leo is not going to
- 42:57change Traditionis Custodes and he's not going to go back to Summorum Pontificum.
- 43:01So no Latin Mass for you unless...
- 43:06So there, there is that. I did promise
- 43:09some good news. I'll get to that in a moment, but usual, you know,
- 43:13the usual shenanigans. Teen takeovers
- 43:17are causing violence and mayhem.
- 43:20Non-traditional shoppers are looting stores
- 43:25and causing the stores to close because they can't
- 43:28afford to give stuff away for free, and the closing of
- 43:32those stores is considered to be nefarious or racist or
- 43:37some such. Yeah, so it's more of the same.
- 43:40Archbishop Wester claims that Muslims have a God-given right
- 43:45to build a mosque in America.
- 43:48That's, that's interesting.
- 43:51I'll leave it there. So with that
- 43:55in mind, let's, let's take a look at the scriptures today. If you're
- 44:00following the Novus Ordo calendar of the Pauline Rite, it's the 18th Sunday
- 44:04in Ordinary Time, Lectionary 112. I'm gonna make a plea
- 44:08right now If you have anything to do with music
- 44:13ministry, if you're a liturgical musician,
- 44:18if you're going to be playing music at Mass this
- 44:22Sunday, please,
- 44:25please, please, I'm begging you, I am on both
- 44:28knees rending my garments, don't do the
- 44:32following. Oh look, the first reading in the Gospel talks about things
- 44:36that can be eaten and things that can be Uh, drunk.
- 44:40So that means whenever we hear food in the scriptures,
- 44:44we have to sing rousing choruses of Table
- 44:48of Plenty. It's, it's the law. I don't make the rules.
- 44:52Everyone knows if there's something that can be consumed by mouth
- 44:56in the scriptures on a Sunday, we've got to sing rousing choruses
- 45:00of Table of Plenty because relevance or something. Don't Do
- 45:04that. For the love of God, don't do that.
- 45:08Now, as an Italian, I can't help but note that there is,
- 45:11there is a significant reference to food in Isaiah.
- 45:15Our Lord says, those who are thirsty, come to the water,
- 45:19drink wine and milk. I would do it in
- 45:23reverse order, but that's— but here's the thing from Isaiah
- 45:27that has haunted me since I was a young man.
- 45:31Why spend your money for what is not bread,
- 45:35your wages for what fails to satisfy?
- 45:39God in his providence did me a solid
- 45:42in my 20s. I spent most of my 20s
- 45:47around people my age and a bit older who were miserable
- 45:53and were really vivid examples of
- 45:56what I did not want to do with my life or how I wanted my
- 45:59life to end up. And I was haunted by that line from Isaiah,
- 46:03why spend your money for what is not bread, what your wages for what
- 46:06fails to satisfy? Because it seems to me that people
- 46:10were working so very hard to
- 46:14get stuff, to get stuff that didn't last,
- 46:18stuff that went out of fashion in half a year.
- 46:23And you got stuck with a job you hate, and you do a little retail
- 46:27therapy, to take the edge off the pain
- 46:31of being in a job you hate. And then you buy a more
- 46:35expensive something and then you need to get
- 46:39further invested in the job that you hate, et cetera, et cetera. And it was
- 46:42a downward spiral. And, but I didn't
- 46:47find a good off-ramp. I didn't find a good alternative
- 46:51until while I was in doctoral studies while working full-time, which I don't
- 46:55recommend. My classmate was a young Jesuit priest,
- 46:58Father Robert Spitzer, and I used to call him
- 47:02from my office in desperation from my white-collar job and say,
- 47:05Father, there's got to be more.
- 47:08There's got to be more to life than this.
- 47:13And now we jump ahead to the Gospels,
- 47:17and we have the story of the loaves and the fishes.
- 47:22And there is the great multiplication of food. Now,
- 47:26if the sermon you hear this Sunday is about
- 47:30that the miracle didn't really happen, and that
- 47:34used to be a thing in the '70s and the '80s, or more recently,
- 47:38the real miracle is that everybody shared
- 47:42what they had. If— could you write me
- 47:46please to stationofthecross.com/askfather and let me
- 47:50know, uh, about that. So our Lord is provident,
- 47:56and our Lord is abundant,
- 48:00and he wants us to help have full bellies,
- 48:04but ultimately he wants us to have full hearts.
- 48:09And the fullness of the heart comes
- 48:13from feeding on himself.
- 48:17He and he alone is the bread of life.
- 48:22He and he alone is the way,
- 48:26the truth, and the life. And our lives have
- 48:30meaning and purpose and real prospects
- 48:35for fulfillment if and only if,
- 48:39and to the degree that, we accept him as
- 48:43our King, as our Lord and
- 48:47our Savior. And when we have received
- 48:50his mercy, his healing, his love, his fullness,
- 48:55when we shake off the shackles and dirt of sin and
- 48:59begin to live as free, the proof
- 49:03of our gratitude is we want other people
- 49:08to know and love Christ the King, to follow
- 49:12the one who is the way,
- 49:15the truth, and the life, and there is no other.
- 49:20So the way that we become sharers
- 49:23of the bread of life is by inviting people
- 49:27to know and love Christ.
- 49:31And sure, let's have conversations, by golly,
- 49:34let's dialogue. Remember, the motto of Jesuit missionaries I
- 49:38was told growing up was Enter through their door,
- 49:43lead them through yours. We've got to meet people where they're at.
- 49:47Where the heck else would you find them? My question is,
- 49:50what do you do with them after you meet them where
- 49:54they're at? Where do you lead them? I say we must,
- 49:58must, must lead them all to Christ.
- 50:02May God's holy name be praised now and forever. I'm Jesuit
- 50:06Father Robert McTeague, your host here every day of The Catholic Current. Join us
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- 50:41God bless you, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Go in peace, and please
- 50:44do pray for me, for I am a sinner.