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Diogenes Club | E27 - A System Meant To Harm · Diogenes Club

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  SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Good late morning, good afternoon, good time of day, whenever you're getting this with us.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's good to see y'all.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Nick Paro,
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  SPEAKER_01: not your dad,
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  SPEAKER_01: joined by my good friend,
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  SPEAKER_01: Dr. Eric Lulove, contributing medical editor at Blue Amp Media.
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  SPEAKER_01: Good dude, got some things to say.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome y'all to the Diogenes Club here on Sick of this Shit Publications
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  SPEAKER_01: with just Eric and I again this week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I said last week, we're probably going to be Evan-less for a little while.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's got some stuff going on and he's taking care of it on his own side.
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  SPEAKER_01: Love you, Evan.
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  SPEAKER_01: We love you, Evan.
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  SPEAKER_01: We hope you're doing well, brother.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love seeing the writing that you're still doing and coming out with.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we miss you, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: We miss you, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: We hope to have you back when you're able to.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nick and I are just going to have to man the fork.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're going to have to hold down the fort.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're not going to jump ship like what's happening on the Abraham Lincoln?
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  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: How do you like that segue?
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  SPEAKER_01: That was a good segue, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so if y'all haven't heard, the...
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  SPEAKER_01: Service members,
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  SPEAKER_01: the sailors,
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  SPEAKER_01: the Marines, there are really bad issues going on on the Abraham Lincoln.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're here today,
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  SPEAKER_01: before we get into that,
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  SPEAKER_01: we're here today to talk about a system meant to harm,
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  SPEAKER_01: which we're going to be getting into because there's some systemic harm
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  SPEAKER_01: that we all have been seeing that's going on in lots of areas,
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  SPEAKER_01: but we'll be focusing on On the vaccine side and the vaccine mandate executive order
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  SPEAKER_01: that came out at the beginning of the week.
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  SPEAKER_02: But let's touch on the USS Abraham Lincoln and what's going on there.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have been at sea for
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  SPEAKER_01: over 250 days, 250 plus days at this point since Guam.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have not returned to port.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have not returned home.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have no return date set for the Abraham Lincoln.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not getting service member rotation.
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  SPEAKER_01: There have been reports now for a while,
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  SPEAKER_01: for a couple months,
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  SPEAKER_01: coming out that there are major food shortages and ration shortages
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  SPEAKER_01: and supply shortages on the Abraham Lincoln.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a major nuclear U.S. carrier.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the flagship carrier.
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  SPEAKER_02: The major battle
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  SPEAKER_01: group we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like this is a flagship carrier group.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a three-star Admiral that sits on this thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they have been at sea for over 250 days.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now,
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  SPEAKER_01: beginning this week,
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  SPEAKER_01: there are reports coming out in larger networks about this,
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  SPEAKER_01: about the Mental health crisis that is going on on board because they're stuck
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  SPEAKER_01: at sea.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have no return date.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't know when they're coming back.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't get mail regularly.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't have rations.
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  SPEAKER_01: And at least six service members tried to jump overboard.
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  SPEAKER_02: So just to give everybody some pause here,
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  SPEAKER_02: just to kind of understand, like it's literally like a little mini village.
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  SPEAKER_02: The USS Abraham Lincoln as our other carriers of the same class, the Ford.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's all the Ford class carriers.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's what this is.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the Ford class carriers.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're all named after former president, which is how we do our our USS carriers now.
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  SPEAKER_02: There are five thousand sailors and service people.
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  SPEAKER_02: They are.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this is according to two military papers that Nick and I both follow,
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  SPEAKER_02: the Navy Times and the Stars and Stripes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not fake news.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Navy Times and the Stars and Stripes are reporting
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  SPEAKER_02: that there are multiple attempts by sailors to jump overboard as the poor conditions
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  SPEAKER_02: and mental stresses on the link are reaching its breaking point.
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  SPEAKER_02: The crew in its ninth month has now spent 250 consecutive days at sea,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is a record for an aircraft in modern times.
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  SPEAKER_02: The normal rotation for an aircraft carrier is 180 days.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maximum.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're already at 120, 140.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're already sailing back home.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're not spending a lot of time in theater.
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  SPEAKER_02: The home base of the carrier is San Diego.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're talking about being deployed into the Middle East,
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  SPEAKER_02: which really falls under Atlantic Command, not Pacific Fleet Command.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's how messed up this entire, and I apologize, my video's a little squirrely, guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully my audio's coming through okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then,
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  SPEAKER_02: but the family's worries have been expressed to Navy leadership,
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  SPEAKER_02: to the acting Navy, again,
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  SPEAKER_02: another acting secretary of the Navy,
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  SPEAKER_02: Hung Cao, that the Navy has broken trust between the leadership and the families.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that the Navy Times has given details of thwarted suicide attempts upon
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  SPEAKER_02: the carrier during the current deployment.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what this actually means, Nick,
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  SPEAKER_02: and as a veteran,
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  SPEAKER_02: I know this hits you really hard and it's very personal for you,
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  SPEAKER_02: that there's going to be an increase of alcoholism, domestic violence, self-harm.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_02: we're going to see these things Popping up more and more when this ship gets back
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  SPEAKER_02: to port.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you can see
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  SPEAKER_02: this is like kind of era of what happened post Vietnam.
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  SPEAKER_02: With the lack of care,
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  SPEAKER_02: the lack of a member of this government and this administration has cut VA funds
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  SPEAKER_02: for mental health services.
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  SPEAKER_02: God knows what these sailors are going to be doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's to the point now where the enlisted personnel are not trusting the officers.
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  SPEAKER_02: And once you have that,
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  SPEAKER_02: you start getting the breakdown of the hierarchy of leadership and orders
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  SPEAKER_02: and command control and operational stewardships and
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  SPEAKER_02: You know,
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  SPEAKER_02: it just it's just really sad that our soldiers and our sailors have to endure this
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  SPEAKER_02: because vanity war.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, this is one.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is was totally avoidable this entire situation.
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  SPEAKER_01: But also the service members should have been home months ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And The Navy, if you're in the Navy, I was not.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have a cousin who is in the Navy.
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  SPEAKER_01: They do six-month rotations.
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  SPEAKER_01: You go six months out, you come six months back in.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a schedule.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a set number of days and a rotation length that you have.
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  SPEAKER_01: And to answer the question in the chat from our friend Jay earlier, is...
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  SPEAKER_01: It is a very dangerous thing to jump overboard from a vessel.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is a way to commit suicide or it is a way to get really vast attention
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  SPEAKER_01: to what is going on because you need help.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is also considered a dereliction of your duties
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  SPEAKER_01: because you are abandoning your post and you are leaving the vessel
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  SPEAKER_01: without permission.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there are consequences on a UCMJ and a legal side for the Uniform Code
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  SPEAKER_01: of Military Justice and how they handle these things.
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  SPEAKER_01: But this is a disabling effect of war that was preventable.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to look back in a couple months to To a couple of years
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  SPEAKER_01: and wish we were back to 19 a day for veterans or whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to look back and go,
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  SPEAKER_01: fuck, we could have done and we needed to do something different.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think these are the situations that what they are living in.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is what's being reported.
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  SPEAKER_02: So imagine this is our this is our naval personnel.
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  SPEAKER_02: Muddy showers, broken toilets.
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  SPEAKER_02: Laundries down for weeks.
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  SPEAKER_02: Long stretches with no hot water.
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  SPEAKER_02: Meal that came down to half a cup of rice and two tortillas.
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  SPEAKER_01: No soap.
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  SPEAKER_02: Undercooked food.
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  SPEAKER_02: No soap, no deodorant, no toothpaste.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, for those of you that are not aware of what life is like on a carrier,
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  SPEAKER_02: there's no air conditioning.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they're in the middle of the Persian Gulf.
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  SPEAKER_02: In the middle of the summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how you spread communicable diseases.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like the fact that you cannot do basic care for yourself and
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  SPEAKER_01: for those around you is how service members get sick and die.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking on ground news right now about some additional reporting
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  SPEAKER_01: on this is now senators are demanding an inquiry into the conditions aboard
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  SPEAKER_01: the USS Abraham Lincoln, which is good.
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  SPEAKER_01: This needed to happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Senator Blumenthal has demanded the Navy account for conditions aboard
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  SPEAKER_01: the USS Abraham Lincoln,
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  SPEAKER_01: which, quote, has been deployed for more than 250 days, end quote.
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  SPEAKER_02: Without coming ashore in
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  SPEAKER_01: over 200 days.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have been on that ship.
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  SPEAKER_02: Two days on land.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_02: One day in Oman and then one day in Oman.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have been on that ship for 200 days, setting a consecutive days at sea record.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's not a good thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nope.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is terrible.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when the families are coming...
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  SPEAKER_01: And demanding from the Secretary of the Navy, what the fuck are you doing?
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  SPEAKER_01: What is happening to our service member?
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a problem.
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  SPEAKER_01: Senator Ruben Gallego,
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  SPEAKER_01: like him or not,
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  SPEAKER_01: at least in this case,
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  SPEAKER_01: is calling for an official oversight visit
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  SPEAKER_01: to investigate reported alarming conditions with the USS Abraham Lincoln.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Congressman Crow has been inquiring as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so this is the response from the administration, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Pete Hegseth said it was a lie.
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  SPEAKER_02: More fake news, quote unquote.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to figure out what's, oh, here's the other.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Congressman Crow has stated that the strain on the service members
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  SPEAKER_02: and their families on the Lincoln is building week by week.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think Levin,
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  SPEAKER_02: who is the,
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  SPEAKER_02: Mike Levin,
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  SPEAKER_02: a Democratic Congressman from California,
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  SPEAKER_02: like I said, he's the one that was basically, he put this on Twitter actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: So he responded to the Secretary's statement by stating,
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  SPEAKER_02: That quote, these men and women signed up to serve their country.
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  SPEAKER_02: The least their country owes them is hot water, a working toilet and a real meal.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hegseth cannot even manage that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he has the nerve to look the families in the eye and call them liars.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then an official from the Defense Department who is not quoted, who is not named.
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  SPEAKER_02: Quote, based on the information available to the command,
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  SPEAKER_02: we have not identified an increase in reported suicidal ideation
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  SPEAKER_02: or suicide attempts aboard the ship.
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  SPEAKER_02: So who's lying?
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  SPEAKER_02: The Navy Times, Stars and Stripes, or the Secretary's Office?
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  SPEAKER_02: And the Defense Department?
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  SPEAKER_01: And Stars and Stripes is not a liberal-leaning outlet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stars and Stripes is a military...
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  SPEAKER_02: It's censored.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's censored media.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if they're allowing this stuff to get out, it's legit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Stars and Stripes are meant for service members.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it is center-right at best, most often.
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  SPEAKER_01: The way they lean the writing tends to be more right-wing than center or progressive in any way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if they're saying something about this, there's a fucking problem.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like there is a big problem and it's going and this is intentional
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  SPEAKER_01: to harm these service members.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like this is being done intentionally to keep them at sea this long.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is an intentional choice to keep a vessel
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  SPEAKER_01: out of port for this fucking long.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are other carrier groups.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are other service members who could be rotated in to relieve these service members.
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  SPEAKER_01: When we deployed, we got an end date to our fucking deployment.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's part of your orders is you go and you can be extended,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's voluntary extension for most.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a choice to extend your deployments.
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  SPEAKER_01: These service members are not being given that choice.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're on an open ended deployment and that's not okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: So here's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: There is a direct relation to high stress technical experience
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  SPEAKER_02: and high stress operations in the US military to suicide rates.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Marine Corps has the highest rate of any of the divisions.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's about 31 per 100,000.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Army is about 28 to 29 per 100,000.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Navy is 21 per 100,000 right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the Air Force is about 18 to 19 per 100,000.
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  SPEAKER_02: So out of the 400,000 soldiers in the respective divisions,
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  SPEAKER_02: okay, that's roughly, what is it, 60, that's almost 100 soldiers.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a 1% suicide rate.
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  SPEAKER_02: When it should be 0.01%.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's 100 soldiers that aren't coming home ever,
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  SPEAKER_02: not due to combat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Due to preventable, due to a fully preventable situation.
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  SPEAKER_02: This never should
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  SPEAKER_01: have happened.
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  SPEAKER_02: How long do you think you would have lasted if you couldn't have gotten
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  SPEAKER_02: a hot shower every five or six days on rotation while you were in service?
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  SPEAKER_01: Only a couple of weeks.
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  SPEAKER_01: My team,
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  SPEAKER_01: while we were downrange,
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  SPEAKER_01: we were there when they closed out one of the FOBs,
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  SPEAKER_01: one of the forward operating bases.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were out at a place called Fobshank,
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  SPEAKER_01: colloquially known as Rocket City, because we got bombed all the fucking time.
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  SPEAKER_01: All the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: For the last two months we were out there, we did not have food service.
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  SPEAKER_01: We ate MREs and the strike packs, the big two days.
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  SPEAKER_01: But at least we had food.
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  SPEAKER_01: We had food.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we had water still.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we had services that we could get to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our stores ran low, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our shop on the base ran out of goods.
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  SPEAKER_01: And things were closing down and there was very little.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we knew there was an end date to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We knew services were there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we knew people could leave if they needed to.
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  SPEAKER_01: They could be returned to a larger installation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we knew we were leaving.
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  SPEAKER_01: We knew when we were getting out of there.
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  SPEAKER_01: We knew there was an end to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But had it just been endless,
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  SPEAKER_01: no food or MREs and strike packs,
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  SPEAKER_01: which for those who have never eaten those types of things,
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  SPEAKER_01: they are high density calorie based food that is meant to last you two days.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's like four options.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now imagine how you guys would have done if you had been on half ration.
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  SPEAKER_01: We wouldn't have been able to do our jobs.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't do your job effectively if you are lacking food,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you are lacking care service of some sort in terms of being able to shower
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  SPEAKER_01: and hygiene.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hygiene in the military is so vitally important because if you're not Keeping your body clean.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're going to get sick and then other people are going to get sick and
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  SPEAKER_01: then you're going to spread communicable diseases.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's a reason that vaccinations in the military are required.
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  SPEAKER_01: Unless you have a life-threatening condition or a condition or a spouse
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  SPEAKER_01: that cannot be near you when you are vaccinated and you have a reason not to get
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  SPEAKER_01: a vaccine because it would kill your spouse.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know because I didn't get the smallpox vaccine
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  SPEAKER_01: because it would have killed my wife had I accidentally got it, given it to her.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a difference between operational management and just cruelty
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  SPEAKER_01: and what's going on on the Abraham Lincoln and probably other vessels,
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  SPEAKER_01: too, is cruelty.
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  SPEAKER_01: No service member signed up to go to an unending situation
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  SPEAKER_01: where they would never return to their family because there is no end date.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is not just unique to the Lincoln.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is the USS Tripoli, which is an amphibious landing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they had the same thing,
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  SPEAKER_02: restricted supply quantities,
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  SPEAKER_02: logical logistical delivery backlogs tied to regional combat operations,
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  SPEAKER_02: tight food rationing and the Ford,
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  SPEAKER_02: as I pretty much said,
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  SPEAKER_02: when the Ford was in the Mediterranean during the whole initial Gaza thing, but in,
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  SPEAKER_02: and it was rerouted into the Persian Gulf before it was returned back home
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  SPEAKER_02: for repairs.
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  SPEAKER_02: But again,
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  SPEAKER_02: Parallel quality of life strain,
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  SPEAKER_02: broken plumbing, laundry outages, and high operational tempos.
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  SPEAKER_01: And high operational tempo means like 14 to 16 to 18 hour days.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you are on all day.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're getting like four or five hours of sleep at most.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's off tempo for most.
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  SPEAKER_01: For anyone deployed is your day does not end.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you're in a high stress situation.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're in a place where they could get attacked.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're in a high stress situation at all times.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: That is not good for your mental health.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: So let's dial out 38,000 feet.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: So when you start putting what's happening with the Lincoln and you expand
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: and zoom out a little bit and we talk about
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: Systems that are made to harm us.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: This is an example of this administration's inability to govern appropriately.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is not like rocket science.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is basic Logistics 101.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: This is having people under your command at the administrative level at
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: the Pentagon,
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: knowing where supplies are, knowing where your S4 officers are for supply, Right.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it's basically saying, get this ship dry docked for repair and rotate the crew off.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: We have other carriers that we can deploy that have not seen this level
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: of deployment time that we need to get.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: We need to get the pilots home.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: think about the wear and tear on the aircraft on those F-35 and the 22s and the in
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: the 18s and the, you know, just the level of stress that those aircraft are under.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: With all the sorties that they're flying without proper maintenance and getting
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: that ship back to a naval station.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: Where, you know, who knows?
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: And this is not even the other stuff that we aren't even hearing about.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's on the top secret stuff of like what operational issues are happening because
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: of, you know, pilot fatigue or maintenance.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: Now what happens?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like again, high operational issues.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Tempo, with maintenance crews,
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: what happens if they miss or they don't have the right supplies to repair
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: a broken firing system on an F-35?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: Now you're taking an aircraft out of service.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: How is that high operational ability when you're grounding aircraft
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: because you don't have a replacement chip on board?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Or they're falling off the carrier because somebody made a mistake.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Or because they're so tired that they forget to put the netting on or
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: a catapult goes down or the hydraulic systems aren't being flushed on the carrier
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: and they're not rotating out the tanks.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's only a matter of time before something catastrophic happens on the Lincoln.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: And Jay,
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: I saw your comment in the chat about Do we think that this is possibly a test
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: of how long they can keep service members before a revolt happens?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: That would be a yes and no at this point, I think.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I think they are testing the limits of how long they can keep a crew at sea
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: before basically mutiny.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's really a next step is at some point somebody will become mutinous
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: and will try and end what is going on for them because they need to get off
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: that vessel.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because they are put into a mental health crisis that
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: says that is the only way out.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: The families seem to already think that because the families are meeting with
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: the Secretary of the Navy And going, what the fuck is going on?
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: And that's a problem.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that we're even out here talking about this is a problem.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: It shouldn't even be anywhere near a conversation.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: By the way, I unblurred my background, and that seems to have fixed my issue here.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the blurring on the background effects for Restream are processor heavy.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so I fixed it so I'm not so time delayed now everybody
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't look like uh some
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: of the high-tech movies were like you know like like the matrix
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: from like you see me kind of like you know hyper hyper phasing yeah
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: and we haven't even talked about like the effects of the fact
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: that ice is detaining family members of service members
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: I want
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: to use my gloves now
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah,
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: and they are now implementing electric shock gloves out there.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: Interestingly enough, it doesn't work through clothing.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: You need contacting skin,
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: which basically means that these agents are going to have to put their hands on you.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and they're going to kill somebody.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: So now it becomes a probable cause, illegal search, and assault.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: And they're going to kill somebody who has a heart condition.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're going to attack you as a pacemaker.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: As a pacemaker or has some sort of...
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, somebody's going to die because of this and it's going to be a tragedy.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: And if going back to the system,
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: that is a direct example of the system that is trying to harm us.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: These slave catchers and neo-confederates out here with shock gloves.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's like It's like them,
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: the old talk, like they used to bring cattle prods and torture prisoners.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's exactly what that is.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: That is exactly what an electroshock club is.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: And they're going to hold somebody and kill them.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: So what do we call this relationship?
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: We can't use the word eugenics.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: This is where we get into our next part of this conversation.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: Cause we were talking partially about the like, The health and safety and the use of vaccines.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: Just just before we get into that, if we go by agency by agency.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: OK, and we started at the State Department, worked all the way down to the interior.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: OK. And we started listing everything that this administration is doing
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: to literally harm the American people.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't have to be a laundry list of 10 things I can literally pick out
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: if we went through each administration, each agency.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: From state down to interior, right?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: Agriculture to interior, right?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: There is one policy that is literally hurting the American population, deliberately.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: Health and Human Services is the easy one to pluck out because you've got
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: a heroin addict running the agency who, you know, thinks you know science, okay?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: We have, I mean,
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: literally have a defense department being run by an alcoholic,
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: TV game show host, right?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look what they've just done with agriculture.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a game to them to destroy.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, with the Forestry Service,
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: with the Department of the Interior,
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: with these wildfires, I mean,
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: with the siphoning of all the funds out of,
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: and then,
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: you know, Trump taking 400 plus million dollars out of the National Park Service.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: Mm hmm.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at the Commerce Department.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Look at what Lutnik's doing with the policies in the Commerce Department.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: Look at what's being done at Treasury.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: and the lack of a State Department,
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: well, that's hurting us because there's no diplomacy anymore.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I can keep going.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can go, we can run all the way through.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at housing urban development, right?
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: They're not doing anything to alleviate the housing issues.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: They ran away from the housing bill, which would have been an easy win for them.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: He ran away from that one.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: What else am I missing?
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, energy.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Look at our energy.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Look at energy.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, let's keep drilling, baby.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, every single agency.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: Education.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: And Lynette,
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: to answer your question,
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: to go back real quick to the glove discussion,
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: is we have gloves but no body cameras.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, we get both.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: They are going to start, agents are going to have to start wearing body cameras.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: But the problem is,
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: And here's where body cameras become ineffective,
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: is the agency is the means of recording and distribution.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: They don't have to release any of the body cam footage,
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: and they're not going to unless it benefits the agents.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: They've already said that.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: They've already said that part.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: They are betraying Americans.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: They're killing Americans.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: And the next act that we're going to really talk about here is
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: the selective gene discovery and gene suppression.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: What was the term I said?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: So here, I'm going to make it real clear what we're talking about.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: I had a video that I posted this morning on TikTok.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, here we go.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: I got a community guideline violation on it because I said the word eugenics.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because the vaccine mandate that is coming out,
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: that came out on Monday from Trump and RFK in the executive order is
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: a eugenics practice to break apart these multi-part,
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: the MMR vaccine and things like that into single vaccines that we don't do anymore,
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: that are decades old, that are a waste of fucking money.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: 40 years of evidence and data, by the way.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: And...
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: It got taken down because I talked about eugenics and I said the word eugenics
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: and we are trying to find a better way to describe it without having to use
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: that word so that we don't get content violations.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the term that we now have to use so that we don't get thrown off a TikTok
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: and have a terms of services.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: We have to call this gene pool management.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: Gene pool reduction.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, management.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: Management's better.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: I like management.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: Reduction is an indication that it's more eugenics-based.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: But if you say management, now you're talking more esoterically and they can't throw you off.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: So the Department of Health and Human Sacrifices is now doing gene pool management
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: to restrict and remove access to needed vaccines for children.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it's going to harm not only kids who don't get the vaccine and need it.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to harm kids who do get vaccines,
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: but no longer have a herd immunity because we don't have enough of it to keep
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: the vaccine from or keep the virus or bacteria from Growing and modifying itself
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: and evolving because evolution is fucking real.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: We see it all the time, assholes.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to kill people and then we're going to kill immunocompromised Americans.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to kill disabled Americans through it.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to kill healthy Americans because vaccines are important.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: We had the influenza plague.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: We had a plague that we won, that we defeated.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: And got influenza rates down to almost to very,
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: very low to death rates around influenza, like the Spanish influenza.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like we, there was there.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: We've done this before.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: If anybody can see the level of exasperation through the beard.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's where we're at right now.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: So I got to give Nick a break here.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_02: So like here's here's the logistical issues with because this is obviously in my wheelhouse.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: So the logistical issues with this executive order that was released two days ago.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: So like he said, we have no domestic supply.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: There is no standalone measles,
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: mumps, rubella vaccine that's currently licensed or routinely available in the U.S.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Single antigen versions were previously available,
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: like Merck had Attenuvax and I think Mumpsvax and Merovax too.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: Those products were then discontinued, by the way, in 2009 and 2010.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: When the combination MnVarvix, when the combination vaccine became standardized.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: So the order tells HHS to develop the availability plan within 90 days,
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: but that doesn't create the supply.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the first thing.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: The second thing is regulatory and manufacturing lead time here.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: OK, so when you're trying to reintroduce a single antigen vaccine,
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: it's going to require regulators and the manufacturers to address production,
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: supply and new submissions for products that have been absent
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: because these products no longer exist in the FDA pathway
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_02: and they've been discontinued.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: The FDA has to go back and reapprove.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: Separate shots,
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: which takes years for those separate vaccines to be tested,
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: licensed and then clinically studied in the U.S. again.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: OK, so this is this is restarting a discontinued biological production.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: Waste, fraud and abuse.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the other problem.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: Then you have the sourcing tradeoffs.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: OK, so this order,
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: this was buried in the bottom of the order that now allows collaboration
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: with foreign manufacturers.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: OK.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: It raises two tensions in the healthcare industry.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: One is a faster but more lax testing pathway reintroduces the safety risks that
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: the policy claims to address.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: And then importing from other countries,
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: the administration has criticized cuts against its America first positioning.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like really fucking brilliant policy they wrote.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: It also, yes, we need to be building relations with other nations.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: And there are certain times when you want to keep There are certain times
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: when you want to keep things in home.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: The ability to influence a vaccine that could turn into a bioweapon
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: because you are allowing a foreign nation to influence your vaccination schedules,
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: you could introduce a bioweapon.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: somebody's going to try and introduce one anyway because AI and stuff like that,
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: they're creating new viruses and something's going to get out either on purpose or
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: on accident because some idiot in West Virginia is going to have the tools enough
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: to make a virus and then they're going to go and spread it and kill a bunch
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: of people.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we're not going to.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: Elementary school with measles.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's going to be sliced with something else.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because people are unvaccinated.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's going to run right through the communities.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: And because viruses and bacteria can evolve and mutate.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: And there's no borders, by the way.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: And there's.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: They don't have.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: Create a plague and a mass health crisis and.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: That is where the selective gene management comes into play.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: Gene pool management.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Gene pool management.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's like calling your local pool guy to come chlorinate, to have you drink chlorine.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: Does that sound familiar?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like injecting yourself with bleach or using...
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: That was a phenomenal policy decision.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: That was brilliant.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: This is the rerun of Trump's Greatest hits.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that injecting bleach idea sounded good.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe if we do gene pool management, that sounds good too.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I will say that thank God that the Senate in their omnibus budget bill funding
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: the rest of the year wiped out that OMB decision,
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: that OMB plan to take over research.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: That was one of the big things that hit last week That the Senate
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: in passing their budget to fund the government through the end of
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_02: the year wiped out Russell votes.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna take over all medical research on this mega America first platform
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: that we get to decide who gets research money and what grants go out.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't comport with our plan,
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: we're gonna not fund you and we're gonna basically throw you in jail.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: So that got wiped out.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: But we still have other issues on the table, right?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: We still have to deal with Olmstead and disability codification.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, we have to deal with listen to everybody.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, I we get we get to a point where it's all about voting.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's all about your ability to go out and computer screen punch or ticket punch your candidates.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: And this isn't about DSA, Democrat.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: You got to vote blue, regardless of who wins the primaries.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: No matter how you feel about it, you
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: need to be blue.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: Or if it's a state where an independent is running in lieu
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: of a Democrat.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just don't vote for the independent because you can't.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're pro-DSA and your DSA candidate didn't win.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: The prize at the end of the day is taking the House and Senate.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's the prize.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: These ideological arguments, everyone wants to have ideological arguments.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: We have sailors and naval personnel and military personnel offing themselves
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: because they don't want to do anything more for this government
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: because they're not being taken care of.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: You have a government who wants to off the disability community because they're
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: a line item exemption expense line on a spreadsheet.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: You want an administration that wants to wipe out the Medicare population
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: so they can privatize and push everything into Medicare Advantage so
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: that private companies can tell you,
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: oh, we don't have to pay for that MRI because you've got potential cancer.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: So we're not even going to give you a PET scan.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: We're just going to kill you off because it's going to cost too much money to take care of you.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: Or we have an energy secretary and an energy department that says,
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: just keep drilling fossil fuels into protected territories.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: Because we don't really need the nature.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: We don't really need to kill off.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need to keep our greenhouse gas emissions low so
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_02: that we don't have global warming because we don't believe in climate change.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: We can let everything burn out west because we're going to siphon money from
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: the Forestry Service.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: So we're going to take money away from our frontline forestry firefighters
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: and not provide any cover for them.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: And we're just going to let people lose their homes in Spokane,
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Washington, because it's a blue state.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Mm hmm.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: But it's very important that we get Ken Paxton elected in Texas,
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: who's currently in Europe with his girlfriend,
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: not even campaigning, who's been impeached twice, right?
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Or Max Miller, who beats his wife.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: Beat his ex-wife and tortured his kids.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: And if it wasn't for the story coming out, Bernie Moreno wouldn't have said jack shit.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: And Trump's still wanting to keep him in the seat because it's more important
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: that they keep the seat Then it is about having a person of character in the seat
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: and having somebody accountable to the people who put them in that seat, right?
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is, I'm sorry, I'm vote-splaining right now, whatever you want
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: to call it.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, I voted the other day in my early voting for Florida.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: I voted who I wanted in, regardless of advertising and whatnot, okay?
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like all the candidates, but I don't have a choice here.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: The choice was taken from me in 2022.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: The primaries are where we get to disagree on do we want a more liberal,
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: a more progressive, a centrist, a what have you.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's when we do that.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: And when the vote is done, just like Francesca Hong did after she lost.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: All four of them.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: She endorsed, all of the candidates have endorsed the Democratic candidate for governor.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: And they're doing a tour, by
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: the way.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: That is what you're supposed to do because
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: you're not running against the party at that point.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: The people decided,
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: whether it be through some sort of manipulation or not,
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: In terms of money going to someone so that they could get less votes elsewhere.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever it may be.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: The primary is over.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now they need to win.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: Now they win.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: And by getting the candidates who lost to come together and to endorse
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: the winning candidate, that makes a big difference.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you win.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you keep Wisconsin blue.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you keep Minnesota blue.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you win in Michigan.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you win in Arkansas,
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_01: where we have a Senate candidate, Hallie Schaffner, who could beat Tom Cotton.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, Alexander Vindman has a great chance of beating Ashley Moody.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: And like these, oh,
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: the Democrats avoided a potential disaster
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: by not electing DSA candidate Francesca Hong.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: No, they didn't.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Had the people spoken and said she is our candidate,
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: the other candidates would have also probably gotten behind her pretty quickly.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: But had she won,
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: had she made a convincing argument, it wouldn't have been where she finished second.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: OK, messaging is everything.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_02: And while Francesca had a great campaign message on affordability and I think a lot
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_02: of the stuff that the DSA pushes, like it's hurtful.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: People like Thanksgiving.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: OK, you're not going to get rid of Thanksgiving.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's just that's like, come on.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: There's reality here, everybody.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's certain things that.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: There's also a lot of fear mongering that
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: happens with things like that.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: And APAC put a shit ton of money out there.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: They spent $80 million between Michigan and Wisconsin.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, I'm not a big APAC fan at all.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: APAC, when I was growing up, actually did good stuff way back in the day.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: Way, way, way, way, way, way back.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_02: APAC today, evil pack.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked about that last week.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's like the America First PAC,
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: just like the Florida Save PAC and all these other bullshit PACs.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's all the PACs.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: Most of them.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_02: Even Blue PAC is still that PAC.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: We shouldn't have any PACs.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: No, we shouldn't have any.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: But that's why it was so important that Senator Ossoff came out the other day
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: and wants to put a constitutional amendment to ban Citizens United.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't think it needs a constitutional amendment because you're not going
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: to get 35 states to sign off on it, especially those with red governors.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: And they're not going to you're not going to get two thirds of the states to pass it.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: But what you can do is you can get a Congress that has a veto majority.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: A veto proof majority and can overturn a veto.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: And you can pass that legislation nationally like you can pass codifying
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: You can recodify Roe.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: You can restore the Voting Rights Act.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: You can do all of these things.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: You can walk and chew gum at the same time, but you have to legislate.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_02: You have to go and do the job.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we have to send people there who are going to go and do the job.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: And the choice on who we send is through the primary part.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then once you get through the primary part, And into the general elections.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: Turnout numbers.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: You have to turn out.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: Whether you're mad that your candidate lost or not,
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: if you're happy that your candidate won, good, you're going to go turn out.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: If you're disappointed that your candidate lost,
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: go encourage them to endorse the winning candidate and make a unified party
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: because right now we have one goal, is to end a regime that is two goals.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: But the first goal is to end the regime that is harming people on purpose.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: Harming the American people is a threat and is an active terror group against
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: the American people.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: We are living through a tyrannical government.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the safest way to do a revolution is through our voting rights.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Is to revolutionize who we put in there.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: And once we have a veto-proof majority,
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: which is what we would need to actually get anything done,
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: is use the power that you are then granted.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: We've talked about this on,
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: I've talked about it with Cliff on Blue Amp,
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: that we need the magic number for the Senate to get started is 52.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because Fetterman's going
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_02: to jump ship.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Fetterman's jumping.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: So we need 52.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: If it's 51, if it's 51, 49, we're screwed.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: If it's 49, 49, we're screwed because remember McConnell's not coming back.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: So they're down one Senate seat.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_02: So there's only 99 Senate seats available.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: So it's going to be, we need to get to 52.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: If we can get to 54 or 55, that's,
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_02: that's even better because remember in 2028,
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: the Republicans are going to have to defend more Senate seats than the Democrats.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: So remember, everybody, how this works.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: I posted this before.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_02: There are 435 House seats.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: OK, those are up for election every two years.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's up for election at the same time.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: The Senate every two years is one third.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: So one third of the Senate seats every two years is vulnerable.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: So that's how the Senate flips.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's not all done at the same time.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: And it was done that way so that there would be continuity of legislative ability in the Senate.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: I know what I just said is a real oxymoron right now, but okay.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's no legislative ability in the Senate right now.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: I saw the wheels of Nick's brain starting to twist.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, you said continuity and legislative in a sentence.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I understand those words, but they don't go well together right now.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: Post, I think yesterday was like, I just want normal, boring government.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I think we're all tired of the chaos.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: We're just tired of it.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's 10 years of this shit.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's 10 years of chaos, right?
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: And we're no better in a position than we are today than we were 10 years ago, right?
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I just want to say to all of our friends in the chat who are our regulars,
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_02: thank you so much for tuning in.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: For our new people tuning in to find us here on Broadbanner and Sick
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: of this Shit Publications via Nick, my friend Nick Paro.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for tuning in.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_02: Smash the hearts as much as possible.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: And listen, we love everybody's support.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_02: We love having you here.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I just wanted to say that we're not ending the show anytime soon.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to get that out there and acknowledge everybody in the chat
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_02: for thanking for being with us.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you for tuning in.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it is not time to go postal.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: It is not time to do that.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_01: The gloves don't come on.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: We do not put on the shock gloves.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: And we do not be the perpetrators of aggressive violence.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: I want to see the memes for the shot clubs.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: I want to see what people are going to come up with.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: I really hope one of those dudes forgets to fucking take one off
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: and just touches himself and either scratches his head or has to go pee.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_02: And just fucking
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: ruins his life.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: They deserve that.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: But it's on them.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_02: This is like the level of what you're talking about is what happened like years ago
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_02: when I was working as a paramedic in Detroit.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: So we had just gotten the new Life Pack 10s in the 80s.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: The paramedic.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_02: And we had gotten ours and we were wearing ours a few weeks.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then a new private ambulance company in Detroit had just gotten theirs.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_02: So the medics were outside the hospital.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: And they were arcing the paddles.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: Just for shits and giggles.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so he actually turned the paddle the wrong direction, hit the button.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it actually zapped his partner.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I've seen where people do stupid shit with electricity.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the people who join ICE are the guys that would pee on an electric fence just
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: to see what happened.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: Forgetting that they're the ground?
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: And these are the same folks that in the military...
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: are mad that you cannot have pinning ceremonies and promotion ceremonies
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: where they say,
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: hit you or slam your pin into your body or do whatever abusive thing that they want
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: to do.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: These are the same people.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: These are the same people.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: They're abusers.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so they're going to abuse their power and position in some way.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: And that's going to be on themselves.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be on other agents.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be on a child, on a migrant child who has no one there to protect them.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be on a pregnant woman.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: God forbid they do it on a fucking pregnant woman
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: because these pro-lifers ain't going to come out and say,
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_01: oh, but the baby, the life matters.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: The baby, that fetus is a life.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to be like, well, she shouldn't have been there.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny how
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: We've said this multiple times over the over the course of the last year where good
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_02: for me, bad for the.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: Mm hmm.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: Mm hmm.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: So we just like we can't
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: like the vaccine thing.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: Good for them, but not for us.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: Can't trust and cannot trust these people with anything.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_02: If the last 11 years has not taught us anything about MAGA.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: Is that you cannot trust these people with anything that's valuable,
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: whether it's money, life, or security.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_02: They are literally, they're like locusts.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: They just kind of devour and destroy without, really, I mean, that's what they, I'm sorry.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_02: They're locusts of a
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: gene pool management.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is bad gene pool management.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, maybe that won't get me kicked off TikTok.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: It won't.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: Is gene pool management.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, we have lived through enough chaos at this point.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: They've been lied to so much that they've drank the Kool-Aid,
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: snuffed the Coke, smoked the meth, and they're still here.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I wouldn't be surprised,
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: thinking about that,
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about this the other day,
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: it was like,
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't be surprised if at some point,
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: RFK just came out and said, you know, doing meth will help you lose weight.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: Or, cocaine is a great stimulant, so it'll help you clean your house.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, at some point, that's going to be what it is.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, Because drugs and fascism, like hard drugs and abusive fascists go together.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: So can I kind of start up a new conversational topic?
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's kind of where we're going here.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_02: So Courtney,
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: who I think is in the chat,
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: hi Court, had asked me about can we reverse engineer Project 2025?
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually thought about this and I'll be honest with you, I don't really think we can.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_02: You can't like reverse engineer, it's not like reverse engineering a device or a computer.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_02: The endpoints on the shelf with project 2025,
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_02: what we can do is we can reconstruct the mechanism of execution.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it became like a de facto operating manual for the executive branch.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: There's a single characteristic that everything that's happened in Project 2025,
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: that everything that they've done has literally required not a single act
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_02: of Congress.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_02: There's 532 tracked recommendations in Project 2025, and they have completed 283 of them.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_02: If that should scare the shit out of everybody.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because we're not even halfway through.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_02: We're not even they're not they're not even halfway through.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: OK, so really what's happening here is so the tier one was the first tier was doing
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_02: the day one executive actions,
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: you know, that that barrage of executive actions that he signed the first day.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_02: That was that was pretty much everything.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_02: OK, and what you can do and what the new incoming president should do.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_02: And these would be like my tier, my day one stuff to re-engineer this stuff.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is to reinstate Schedule F of Medicare, because remember Trump killed that right off the bat.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: So what Schedule F was,
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_02: was that if you were Schedule F, you,
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: so there were two things,
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: there was Plan F and the Medicare,
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: but Schedule F was rehire and unregulate all the hiring freezes.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: All the diversity offices that were closed,
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: the foreign aid that was frozen to USAID,
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_02: the dismantling of USAID, the border enforcement, those were already pre-drafted.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why they were able to land all that stuff in week one.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: You undo all that shit right away.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we're going to need a massive hiring freeze at the government level
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: to restaff all these agencies.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the first one.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: The second tier is the agency rulemaking, which is where they're at right now.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: And that takes a full cycle or two cycles to finalize, right?
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: The EPA stuff,
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: the Health and Human Services stuff,
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: the Olmstead,
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: the OMB stuff,
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: anything that they've got to legally put out for rulemaking is where we can stall
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: the hell out of them, okay?
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: The other tier is the structural and legislative.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_02: This is where the Medicare Advantage, the default enrollment option, has stalled out.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: So like these are the actual health care goals.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_02: They want to repeal the Medicare Shared Savings Program.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: They literally want to steal the Medicare Trust Fund.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they really
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: want to do.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then they're going to call it broke and say,
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: look, we can't afford Medicare just like they did with Social Security.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: So and then the contested endpoints.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: So the full default enrollment into privatized Medicare and abortion restrictions
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_02: and dismantling of the administrative state.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_02: Is is under the maximalist executive power that they want to do.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's the finish line.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: So Congress cannot permit that to occur, which is why these elections are fucking huge.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_02: OK, because taking the House and the Senate will effectively stall and halt and arrest.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: Project 2025.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_01: It will literally just kill
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_02: it in its tracks.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: OK.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: And the honest framing is that we need to basically,
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_02: the whole point of it was to move quickly,
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: to do executive action tier moving fast so that the legislative stuff stalls and
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_02: that all the, all the near term, all the risk stuff is by rulemaking, not statutes.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: So we effectively kill this by winning elections.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's how you reverse engineer Project 2025.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: You win the fucking general elections in November.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: And you have a Lawrence Winterman and I were just talking about this beforehand
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_01: on my show just before was you need to have a vision of what utopia could look like
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: for America.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: Not something that we know we might might ever achieve like Utopia is an unachievable goal.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_01: We all know that.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody knows that.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: Even people on the right understand that.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_01: Their version of Utopia is unachievable at a point.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like they can go so far, but it never can get...
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_01: But they have a... 100 million people.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_01: But they have a goal that they aim towards.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: And...
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_01: They're sold on the vision of that goal.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like Donald Trump,
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: for all his flaws as a human being,
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: is an actor and knew how to sell a message and knew how to sell an idea.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: Obama was an orator, is an orator, knew how to sell an idea.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: Knew how to sell a message and a dream for what America should be and where we can go.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then having the plan already written down and the actions ready to go.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have to reverse engineer Project 2025.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_02: Just got to stall.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_02: Just got to kill it.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: We have to kill it and we have to have a plan in place
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: with our own legislative goals already written out,
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: with the laws already written,
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: with the bills individually written so that we flood the bills.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: And if you have a veto-proof majority, you can get all those bills passed.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_01: But if you don't have a veto-proof majority and you at least have
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: a large enough majority that Republicans are going to be forced to come along
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: with you.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's the trick.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: You can still pass all the bills and force the president to veto them.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: And then the bills are still able to then be passed the next time.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: We have to have the bills ready from day one so that they can be legislated on
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: because legislation doesn't have to grind slowly.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_01: We have been convinced that democracy has to move slowly.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: There's a big lie on that.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think democracy isn't a slow process.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_02: Think about how fast things went from 1933 to 1940 and then how fast things went
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: from 1939 to 1944.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_02: In government legislation, I mean, it accelerated.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: We can do that.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_01: We have the power.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody said...
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_02: FDR passed six major legislative bills that stood the test of time for
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_02: over 90 years.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_01: Legislation is a lot harder to undo.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: Legislation is really hard to undo,
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_01: especially if you're doing legislation on single-item issues issues.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: And you flood the legislative zone quickly.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: Because things can be voted on if you are running the House and the Senate.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: You have the power to bring all the bills to the floor as quickly as you want to.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_01: And they don't have to stall in chambers.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_02: But this is where leadership matters.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_02: This is where having effective... Not
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: Hakeem Jeffries?
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_02: Not Jeffries and definitely not Schumann.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my God, no, please, please no.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_02: Look at the new makeup of what the Senate, let's just say we get to 54 or 55, okay?
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_02: Who do you think legitimately should be the Speaker of the House?
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_02: Now remember, it doesn't have to be anybody who's, it doesn't have to be a member of Congress.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just thinking about how pissed off,
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: just how fucking annoying he's going to be if Kamala Harris was appointed,
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_02: was voted as Speaker of the House for just two years.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it can be anybody.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: It can be anybody who is constitutionally eligible to sit in the office of
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_01: the president because you have to be eligible to take the role of the president
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: to be the Speaker of the House.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_02: People forget that one too.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_02: Jasmine Crockett would be a great answer.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_02: I would have a different role for Jasmine Crockett.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_02: I would make her a U.S. attorney.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_02: I would just make her a U.S.A. for the Southern District of Texas.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_02: There are certain people like I would...
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: you want a pit bull attorney general,
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_02: like a literal pit bull because we need an American Nuremberg when this is done.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like as much as they have stretched the law to whatever they're doing,
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_02: we have to stretch the law on the justice side of being like, you know what?
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_02: All that shit they were doing was illegal.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_02: There is no immunity.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_02: You don't get immunity when you create treason in the United States.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_02: And you have killed American citizens at will without any type of prudence.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_01: And we need to have Congress members who are willing to say the word treason.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I think if you offered Jasmine Crockett either a special counsel position or
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_02: a U.S. attorney position, she would take it in a heartbeat.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: Or even attorney general.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I'd make her attorney general.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: Is she the right candidate?
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe not.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: But the energy that she presents is what we need.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_02: We need that energy.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_02: Jasmine, where would you like to be the happiest?
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a better one.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_02: Where would you be the most effective?
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_02: Where do you see yourself?
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really see her as somebody that wants the national spotlight all the time.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_02: She's a worker bee.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_02: I think maybe as a U.S. attorney, she'd be amazing.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_02: Even maybe deputy attorney general.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_02: Something on that or even director of the FBI.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, but the thing is, you got to flood the DOJ with prosecutors again.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_02: We need all the prosecutors back because that's who we're going to need.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_01: And we need prosecutors and elected politicians, which we are seeing a lot of them.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of the primaries showcasing people who are saying they're willing
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_01: to do it is we need elected officials and civil servants and public servants
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_01: who are willing to say what is needed to be said and who are willing to match
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: the energy and the demands that the people are putting behind them.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_02: Now, so Survivors was saying Glenn Kirshner.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_02: Glenn has made it very clear that he would be willing to go back to federal service
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_02: as an ADA,
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_02: as the ASA,
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_02: or whether as the U.S.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_02: Attorney for Southern District of New York,
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_02: or coming in as the Attorney General or Deputy Attorney General.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's already made it very clear on his podcast that he's willing to come back
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_02: to federal service.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_02: I would love that.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: He would be a pit bull.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, fuck.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's got a laundry list of shit he would do already.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: But that's the thing is it needs to be planned.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I've said this already is the Democratic Party should have from day one
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_01: after losing the election or after Trump was sworn in should have started
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: the presidential primary and made it all about them.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_01: Make it all about the Democrats and all about who's running for office.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what we should be doing.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_01: Even at this point, Pete Buttigieg, if you're going to run for president, say it.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: Put it out there.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: Put it out there now.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: AOC, there are rumors of her being open to run versus running for Senate.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think whatever she's going to do, I hope she says it soon.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_01: I hope she says it soon.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: Just from her perspective,
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_02: if I was sitting sideline,
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: I was advising her campaign and I was somebody that she trusted,
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_02: somebody who's seen all this stuff from the outside.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_02: She's too polarizing of a political figure to run for national office.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: OK, I just think she she just becomes like red meat for the right.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that she could command a lot more power in Washington over the length
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_02: of her career that she wants to be in politics as a senior senator
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_02: from New York State.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_02: She could be on the Appropriations Committee.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_02: She could be on whatever committee that she wants to be on, right?
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_02: I think when you're looking at where you could fit for a 10-, 15-,
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: 20-year run in politics,
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_02: putting yourself out there to run for the presidency of the United States,
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think for somebody like AOC with where she sat in her earlier years,
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_02: As a member of the squad.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then even though everybody forgets, she's been in Congress 10 years already.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's I mean, she's a veteran Congresswoman already.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_02: But I think she's good at her job and she's good at what she does.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_02: So do it as a senator representing the people of the state of New York,
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_02: which is where her wheelhouse is.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_02: Dar had put something in there about like Katie Fang.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think Katie also has young.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_02: She's got young children.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think give her the opportunity to decide what she wants to do.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, offer her the Southern District USA attorney position in Miami or Florida.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: But also work in conjunction with, say,
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: if David Jolly wins the governor of Florida and Vindman becomes the sitting U.S.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: Senator.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_02: Work with the DNC in Florida.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_02: Work with Nikki Fried as the chair of the state of Florida for the Democratic Party,
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_02: where we need the best people for the moment.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because really, this is where I live.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's a shit like the court system's not working hard enough down here.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, like,
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_02: like literally you have 30 plus years of Republican appointed judges sitting
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_02: in Florida.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_01: And we should also have a very well defined.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: And this is where coyness and political gamesmanship need to stop.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_01: Is we need to.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: Start the presidential election or start the presidential primary process
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: and campaigning eight months ago.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_01: We needed to start it in January or a year ago.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_01: We needed to start it then.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_01: But we can start it now.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_01: And we also need to start listing out and having people who are open and ready
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_01: for it for the Supreme Court.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_02: We keep talking about the tent, Nick, right?
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_02: Mm hmm.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the tent right now?
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_02: The tent are pretty much everybody who's a registered Democrat and disaffected.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Independence.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_02: That is 65 percent of the country.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_02: OK, the people that are on the far right, that 35 percent, they're gone.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_02: You're not getting them back.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_02: OK.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_02: So the tent has to be to serve the 65% of the country that wants a change,
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_02: that demands a change,
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_02: that wants to see effective government,
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_02: that wants to see us getting out of these forever wars,
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_02: that wants financial security,
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_02: that wants people getting stopped shooting people in the street,
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_02: get control of the financial system,
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_02: get control of the fraud and the crime and the mafia that's been in the White House
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: for the last two years, okay?
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Stop the AI tech center bro techie bullshit that's going on.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Legislate legitimate real regulations that stop hurting the American people.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's where most people sit.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_02: They're sitting in the bubble of the bell curve where they're here.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_02: OK, not out here on the fringes, but out here.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: This is where most people live.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_02: Most people live left center,
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_02: center, right center, and they flow back and forth depending on the issue.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_02: OK, these fringe politics shit needs to stop.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_02: And you serve.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what governing is about.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_02: Governing is about making the choices that service the most amount of people at one given time.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_02: You're not going to make everybody happy,
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_02: but you need to govern from within and govern with responsibility.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_01: We need people who are willing to try.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_01: Who are willing to put bills on the floor,
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_01: whether they're winnable or passable or not, they need to put them out there.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you're not even using the power that you're elected to have, then you shouldn't be there.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not an abuse of power to use your legislative power to hold trials of treason.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_01: To hold impeachment inquiries and hearings,
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_01: to hold oversight,
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_01: to pass laws,
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_01: to impeach Supreme Court members for blatantly violating ethical oaths
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_01: and responsibility and the law.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be bringing them into the White House day one and saying,
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_02: would you like to resign or do you want to face criminal charges for bribery?
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_02: You don't even have a conversation with Alito.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: You literally drag his ass into the Oval Office.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_02: And this is what brings me back to my original statement of why we need 52 seats in the Senate.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because if they retain the Senate one vote,
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Alito and Thomas are going to be replaced with two more judges.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_02: They're going to sit on that bench for another 25 years, and we are screwed blue.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_01: Which is why we need Supreme Court justice.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Nominations already ready and in the public of who these people are going to be
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_01: because I want to know.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_01: I want to know who our next Supreme Court justices are going to be
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_01: before they sit down to a hearing where we hear
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_01: about how Brett Kavanaugh had fucking keg ragers and used to beat people.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_01: We shouldn't be hearing about that in the Senate first.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_01: We should have been hearing about that beforehand because these people should not be secrets.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_01: Politicians need to start using their damn power because the system that we live in is harmful.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_01: It is hurting people.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_01: It is meant to harm people.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it's meant to propagandize against each other.
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_01: Because I bet you if you actually got down to the root issues
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_01: that everyone around you is facing, they're all the same issues.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Same as Florida or Washington or Michigan or Arkansas or New York State.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_02: We are all facing the same problems.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know what we're facing right now?
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Gas prices are through the roof.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_01: And food shortages.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Food shortages.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Food is not safe to eat.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Nope.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_01: You don't know if your food is safe.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Who likes explosive diarrhea
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_02: for dinner?
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it's too expensive to buy.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Everything is too expensive.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_01: We need, yes,
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_01: we need in essence job interviews for government positions such as the Supreme Court
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_01: before they reach the Senate for their candidacies and things like that.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_01: But we need the power and you need to use the power that is
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_01: within your constitutional purview to do your job because we need
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_01: to stop telling people That it is courageous for a politician to do the basic part
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_01: of their job.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_01: It is not courageous for a politician to put out legislation.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_01: It is courageous if they were to stand up to a tyrannical government and they were
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_01: to put their bodies and lives on the line like some of them have.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_01: But doing the basic parts of your job of holding people accountable Isn't courage.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the basic part of your job.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and I might catch a little bit of flack for saying this.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to say it anyway.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_02: There is nothing wrong with the incoming administration bringing in the Dow 30 CEOs,
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_02: okay,
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_02: and some of the NASDAQ CEOs,
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  SPEAKER_02: and having a conference saying, listen, guys, You are sitting on this much money.
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_02: You're sitting on this much money, okay?
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_02: What's it going to take for you guys to understand that we're either going
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_02: to legislate you out of that profiteering or you're going to start giving
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_02: the money back voluntarily?
• 1:16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just like we did at the end of the golden age to the robber barons.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_02: What's it going to be, guys?
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because you've made record profits, okay?
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I could have the DOJ start hauling all you guys in and start looking at your books.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_02: And we can talk about money laundering and Rico and,
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_02: or you can start acting responsibility more responsibly as a corporation.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_02: And you can start hiring again.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need 1000% profit margins.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_02: You guys were doing just fine when you were making 15, 20% profit.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like you can start having these real conversations With CEOs,
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_02: not threatening them,
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_02: but say like, listen,
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_02: we want you guys to partner with us as the federal government because we are going
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_02: to make your life better.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to get you more.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to get you more customers.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to open up.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to cut all the tariff bullshit.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to open up our trade again with our northern neighbors and our neighbors
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_02: in Europe and our friends around the world.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_02: And we're going to do what we have to do with our enemies.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_02: And we're going to deal with China again.
• 1:17:10
  SPEAKER_02: But what's it going to take?
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I want you to draw the line right here with me right now so I know who I'm dealing with.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_02: If you can't work with my administration,
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_02: then you think being an enemy of the state was fun when it was
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_02: a Republican president?
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Wait till I get my DOJ on you.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to actually uphold the law.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_01: And if the law is not strong enough, guess what Congress is there for?
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_02: To make better laws.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'll regulate the shit out of your industry.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'll make it so that you're going to spend so much money on regulatory guidance.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_02: That your profit margin is going to go down.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'll forbid you from raising prices.
• 1:17:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'll lock your industry in no more price gouging.
• 1:17:55
  SPEAKER_02: You can't pass anything on.
• 1:17:56
  SPEAKER_02: You're going to have to fix your prices for five years.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll legislate that.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll do it industry-wide so it's not just you,
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_02: but because maybe the four other partners in your industry agreed to work with us,
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_02: but you're the one that's a holdout, I'm going to punish everybody.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like not being authoritarian,
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_02: but it's kind of saying,
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_02: listen, Either start being fair or we'll show you how unfair things can get.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's using pressure and levers of government to the way that they're supposed to be used.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's a bully pulpit.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's upholding the law and not weaponizing it.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Again, lawyers too.
• 1:18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Upholding the basics of the law is not weaponization of the law.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's just upholding the law.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_02: I got to get going here.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we got to get going, y'all.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_02: I had a couple weeks to make up because I hadn't been around for a couple weeks.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's time for us to head out for the day.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_01: It is time for y'all to get our promotions and for us to promote the work we do.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Eric, I'll start with you, my friend.
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I can't do my water bottle time now.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_02: Not yet.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_02: No water bottle time.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_02: Hi, everybody.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_02: Again, thank you, Jason Gale, for the wonderful caricature.
• 1:19:17
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• 1:19:46
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• 1:19:52
  SPEAKER_02: the Hope Foundation $10 million fund that somehow went to Casey and Ron DeSantis.
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_02: That was an ACA overpayment by Centene.
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason why I'm publishing is because Ashley Moody was the attorney general.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_02: In Florida at the time that she signed off on the settlement and she won't release
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_02: the grand jury.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_02: She won't release the grand jury testimony on the investigation.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it doesn't sound shady or anything.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's not shady at all.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
• 1:20:19
  SPEAKER_02: it's a whole cabal of this University of Florida group of attorneys that was,
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_02: it was it was Pam Bondi and James Oldmeyer, who's the current attorney general and.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_02: Ashley Moody, who's the current U.S.
• 1:20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Senator that was appointed, not elected, by the way.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_02: She took over Marco Rubio's position.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_02: So this is a whole little Florida cabal thing that's always been going on here.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_02: But that's the next one that's coming out, everybody.
• 1:20:42
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• 1:21:07
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• 1:21:09
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• 1:21:12
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