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This Gay Week: A Global Crackdown on LGBTQ Rights? · The Karel Show

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  Speaker 1: Show time is here. No time to fear.
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  Speaker 1: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
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  Speaker 1: Corella is the one that you need to know. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's show side.
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  Speaker 3: It's that time of week again, This Gay Week with
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  Speaker 3: Scott Jacobson from The good Man Project. We are here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the gay He's the week. We're gonna see what
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  Speaker 3: happened for LGBTQ people across the globe. No, hello, my honey, Hello,
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  Speaker 3: my sugar, Hello, my rac time. If you like the
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  Speaker 3: little frog from Bugs Bunny, Uh, it is the Carell Show.
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  Speaker 3: I am Correll. It's time for this Gay Week with
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  Speaker 3: Scott Jacobson from The good Man Project and many other publications,
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  Speaker 3: Rabble and so forth. He is still currently in Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: where they're kind of out of defense missiles, So we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to be so flippant this week. If he
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  Speaker 3: hears a bomb, I'm going to tell him to take cover.
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  Speaker 3: Which last week he heard a bomb and if it
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  Speaker 3: was in our news the next day, But here he is.
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  Speaker 3: It was in the news the next day. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: the one that hit right by your place was in
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  Speaker 3: the news. And I'm like, well, Scott was live on
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  Speaker 3: air with me when this happened. Uh So I wasn't thrilled.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not thrilled that you're in the middle of this.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're a reporter. I know you're doing your job.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still not thrilled. But you know, it's like, when
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  Speaker 3: do you come back.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, come on, Oh, we've had so many aread
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  Speaker 4: worms today.
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  Speaker 3: That's not good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no warning is in the next seventy two hours
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  Speaker 4: we're expecting a big attech.
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  Speaker 3: All right, and speak up just a little. You're a
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  Speaker 3: little you're a little you're a little low in the
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  Speaker 3: war zone. Maybe you don't want to draw attention to you, Selsie,
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  Speaker 3: you're speaking a little low, but be sure you project
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  Speaker 3: child like that wonderful Jeremy Piven comedy in again. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's that wonderful Jeremy Piven comedy skit where he says
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  Speaker 3: the Rock never had an acting lesson and he's the
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  Speaker 3: richest man in Hollywood. I'm doing a comedy show next
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  Speaker 3: to a Dave and Busters. And then he puts the
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  Speaker 3: mic down and he goes, can you hear me in
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  Speaker 3: the back and they go yeah, and he goes, you
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  Speaker 3: know why because I had fucking acting lessons. It was
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  Speaker 3: a funny Jeremy Piven doing comedy. All right. Before we
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  Speaker 3: begin with the other stories, we'll start with one that
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  Speaker 3: we reported on first and then became a big, big story,
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  Speaker 3: everyone talking about it, and of course we did it
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  Speaker 3: here first, and that is Turkey not allowing the vessel
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  Speaker 3: with Patty Lapone to dock. I want to say a
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  Speaker 3: few things about that. First of all, for those of
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  Speaker 3: you saying, well, it was an all gay cruise, why
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  Speaker 3: do you have cruises based on sexuality? It was not
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  Speaker 3: an all gay c There were many heterosexuals on board.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a cruise that was marketed to the LGBTQ
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  Speaker 3: community and they got Patty Lapone to perform. But there
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  Speaker 3: were many many heterosexuals on board.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: So that that's the first thing. And then second of all,
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  Speaker 3: I go back to it is time for gays and
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  Speaker 3: lesbians to stop I don't want to say convenience spending,
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  Speaker 3: but it is time for us to flex more of
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  Speaker 3: our financial dollar, and Turkey is not where you should
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  Speaker 3: be spending it. So it is an anti gay country.
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  Speaker 3: Scott and I report here every week about new anti
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  Speaker 3: gay things they do in Turkey. It is not a
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  Speaker 3: place for gay people to be spending money right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad the ship could not dock there. We don't
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  Speaker 3: need to be spending our money there. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: pick a port of a country that actually likes us.
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  Speaker 3: And but it did become a very very big story ship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that that ship has sailed. Well, it became a very
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  Speaker 3: big story. Everyone was like, you know, the gays and Turkey,
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  Speaker 3: and the gays and Turkey. I was too busy watching
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  Speaker 3: Neil the Seal. I'm my whole free time now was
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  Speaker 3: just watching Neil the Seal. Tell me you know who
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  Speaker 3: Neil the Seal is.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know Neil the Seal is. You introduce me
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  Speaker 4: to that young boy who cooks and cooks up a storm, Carter.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, today, yes, Carter. Carter's on the cruise ship
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  Speaker 3: right now. Carter is on the largest cruise ship in
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  Speaker 3: the world right now, and he's taking a cruise with
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  Speaker 3: his family and he is cooking. He was making mocktails yesterday. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta go find Neil the Seal. He has more
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  Speaker 3: followers than most celebrities. He is an elephants seal that
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  Speaker 3: every year comes to Tasmania and basically destroys the town.
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  Speaker 3: Hates traffic cones, oh can't stand them, destroys police vehicles,
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  Speaker 3: blocks people's way from going to work, lays in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of the highway and they have to close it down.
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  Speaker 3: People love him. The authorities are like, we might have
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  Speaker 3: to euthanize him because people are getting too close. There's
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  Speaker 3: now a petition thirty thousand plus strong to not euthanize
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  Speaker 3: Neil the Seal. He is very famous. He is all
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  Speaker 3: over the internet and I love him. He's a rebel.
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  Speaker 3: He's a rebel. He will not be contained. He's a
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  Speaker 3: teenage boy and he's just thrashing everything in his way.
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  Speaker 3: I love Neil the Seal, so I hope nothing bad
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  Speaker 3: happens to him. But you know, that's how life is.
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  Speaker 3: The next thing we find out Neil is dead. That's better, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well fame killed. So you know, the more the more
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  Speaker 3: famous he's becoming, the closer people they are getting. And
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  Speaker 3: that's that the locals noted. Just leave him alone, drive
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  Speaker 3: around him. If he's destroying your car, just watch, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Show Time is here. No time to fear.
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  Speaker 2: Corell is so near because show time is here.
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  Speaker 1: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
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  Speaker 1: Corella is the one that you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: But as I was saying, it's always the tourists that
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  Speaker 3: have to ruin everything. All right, let's start this whirlwind cavalcade.
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  Speaker 3: Pick a story, spin the wheel, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: So pick news. So, Senegal's National assembl has amended the
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  Speaker 4: constitution on twenty nine. My marriage is a union man
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  Speaker 4: and a woman. All all underlying nine Assembly members voted
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  Speaker 4: for the change. Same sex marriage is never legal. All
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  Speaker 4: same sex and sexual activity has been prohibited under Penal
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  Speaker 4: Code Article three one nine since nineteen sixty five. So
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  Speaker 4: they basically just clamp down on try prejudice.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and by the way, my listeners and viewers love you.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna tell me we couldn't hear Scott. We couldn't
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  Speaker 3: hear Scott, so bump up your if you can. So
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  Speaker 3: here's the deal, Senegal de car that while area, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of ist in that region. I used to
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  Speaker 3: work with Vesta Williams, a now deceased R and B artist,
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  Speaker 3: and she went to Senegal to perform, and when she
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  Speaker 3: got there, she experienced racism like you wouldn't believe. Now.
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  Speaker 3: In America, she was treated like every other black woman,
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  Speaker 3: but in Senegal she was treated like a white person
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  Speaker 3: because she was a light skinned black, and they said
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  Speaker 3: her blood was polluted and that she had slave master
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  Speaker 3: blood in her and all this other stuff. And she
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  Speaker 3: really felt like an outsider in Africa. And yet she's
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  Speaker 3: African American. And so Senegal is ever been a bastion
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  Speaker 3: of acceptance of love for anybody. I am not surprised that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, each week we talk about African nations and
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  Speaker 3: what they're doing in Senegal. They are not instituting a
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  Speaker 3: new band per se as you said. They are really
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  Speaker 3: just tightening up on old hatreds, old bigotries. But again,
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee you this is rooted in American money. Africa
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  Speaker 3: and African nations have bigger issues than gay One of
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  Speaker 3: their biggest issues is finances, funding and resources. If evangelical
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  Speaker 3: hate organizations from the United States offer them an influx
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  Speaker 3: of cash to do a policy a certain way, they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna take it do I know that's what happened here.
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  Speaker 3: I can't tell you with one hundred percent of surety
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  Speaker 3: that's what happened here, but I will tell you It's
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  Speaker 3: happening all over Africa, so why wouldn't it be happening here.
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  Speaker 3: So again, I truly believe this is the religious right
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  Speaker 3: of the United States influencing policy in an African nation
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  Speaker 3: by incentivizing with cash. With an influx of cash of
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  Speaker 3: some kind, we'll see, that's what it sounds like to me.
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  Speaker 3: These people have no morals or principles. They go where
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  Speaker 3: the cash is. They could care less about. I mean, really, Senegal,
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  Speaker 3: you've got other problems. You've got drought, you've got hunger,
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  Speaker 3: you know, starvation, you've got housing crises' I mean, you've
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  Speaker 3: got more people living in poverty than you do above
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  Speaker 3: the poverty line. The last thing you need to worry
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  Speaker 3: about is who wants to marry who. So the only
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  Speaker 3: reason that they worry about it is because an outside
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  Speaker 3: influence comes in and tells them to worry about it,
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  Speaker 3: and then they do, and they take the donations from
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  Speaker 3: the outside source and go on their merry way.
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  Speaker 4: Another facet is political expedients against a minority population. Another
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  Speaker 4: indicator of Christian space influenced is the use of the
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  Speaker 4: phrase between a man and a woman that is biblical.
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  Speaker 3: It is not. I mean, the phrase may be biblical terminology,
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  Speaker 3: but nowhere in the Bible does it address same sex
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  Speaker 3: marriage being or marriage being between a man and a woman.
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  Speaker 3: This is all made up.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I heard a great preacher, Scott, I really did, and
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  Speaker 3: that's all. I almost choke on those words. But I
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  Speaker 3: did hear a great preacher, and he said things like,
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  Speaker 3: America is not a Christian nation, so please stop with
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  Speaker 3: all of this. If we were a Christian nation, we
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have started by murdering twenty million Native Americans and
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  Speaker 3: then making them relegated to a life of poverty. That's
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  Speaker 3: not something a Christian would do. We wouldn't then build
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  Speaker 3: a nation through slave labor, people that we beat and
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  Speaker 3: killed to simply do our chores for us. That's not
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  Speaker 3: a Christian thing to do. In fact, in the Old Testament,
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  Speaker 3: God freed the slave, so I think God made his
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  Speaker 3: position on slavery pretty clear in the Old Testament. So
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  Speaker 3: this preacher said, again, we would not have founded a
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  Speaker 3: nation based on slavery. We certainly wouldn't have gone to
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  Speaker 3: war to keep the right to own a person. That's
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  Speaker 3: not something a Christian would do. And he said, we
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  Speaker 3: would not be discriminating against gays, lesbians, byes, trans or
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  Speaker 3: any person. We would not be judging them or thinking
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  Speaker 3: of them in any other way than they are children
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  Speaker 3: of God and they are perfect the way we are,
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  Speaker 3: because that's what the Bible tells us to do. So
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  Speaker 3: stop calling yourself a Christian and stop calling it a
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  Speaker 3: Christian nation because A you don't behave like Christians, and
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  Speaker 3: b neither does your country. And I think that summed
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  Speaker 3: it up really well. You know, it is not a
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  Speaker 3: Christian thing to do. To legislate against gays. That is
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  Speaker 3: not Christians. It is not something the Lord would want.
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  Speaker 3: It is not something christ would want, and it's just
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  Speaker 3: not something that the Bible demands because the Bible never
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  Speaker 3: mentions homosexuality. The word wasn't even around back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: and it didn't even come into play in the Bible
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  Speaker 3: until the last century when it was yet again rewritten
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  Speaker 3: by a pope. So it is not a They guise
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  Speaker 3: it as a religious thing, they guise it as a
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  Speaker 3: Christian thing, but it is not, and they are not
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  Speaker 3: good Christians. Anyone that thinks hatred and bigotry against gays
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  Speaker 3: is biblically prescribed is not a Christian. And this according
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  Speaker 3: to a preacher, not just me. Hallelujah, Praise Jesus. I
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  Speaker 3: am ordained. I guess I am a preacher because I
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  Speaker 3: am ordained, so I can perform legal marriages. Hint him,
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  Speaker 3: that's fun. Oh yeah, absolutely, I've done it. I've performed
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  Speaker 3: five marriages.
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  Speaker 4: I think. I think performed is the right word for
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  Speaker 4: how you do it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, trust me. They were entertained. Uh
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  Speaker 3: it was except at one where I gave away that
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  Speaker 3: the bride was pregnant and the family didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Some of the most popular programs amongst humanists
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  Speaker 4: That that is? That is an itch people do scratch
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  Speaker 4: when they say, uh, slav Ukrainy, and then the crowd
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  Speaker 4: supposed to say Ukraini Slava. It's sort of a national patriotic,
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  Speaker 4: patriotic thing to me with you also with very yeah, essentially.
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  Speaker 3: Next door I grew up Catholic. We're really good at
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  Speaker 3: you know, repeat. The priest will say something and you
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  Speaker 3: say something and then also with you or blah blah,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah. It's very much a cult type thing, very strange.
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  Speaker 3: Shall we move on to Indonesia? The news isn't much
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  Speaker 3: better there, but but we we could go there, Jesus
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  Speaker 3: true story. Two of my best friends. Speaking of Indonesia.
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  Speaker 3: Two of my best friends now thirty plus years, well
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  Speaker 3: one of them twenty five years and the other thirty
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  Speaker 3: because he met him five years in. They're a couple,
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  Speaker 3: been together, you know, twenty five years. His family is
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  Speaker 3: from Indonesia. And subsequently, my bff of thirty years never
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  Speaker 3: goes on vacation with his husband or partner. They haven't
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  Speaker 3: gotten legally married, but they are married. He never goes
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  Speaker 3: sees the other side. And I asked him why and
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  Speaker 3: he said, well, they're Indonesian. And I said, well, what
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  Speaker 3: does that have to do with it, you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: his partner, and he said, they don't accept his life's
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  Speaker 3: you know, his life at all. They don't. They just
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  Speaker 3: don't talk about it when he's there. They and I thought,
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  Speaker 3: how sad to go back and visit a family that
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  Speaker 3: won't discuss the most important relationship in your life. It's
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  Speaker 3: just it's the family that's missing out. It's you know
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  Speaker 3: then that's always the.
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  Speaker 4: Way you know, they that's with how said and how real.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: People absolutely, and even in the United States where we're
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  Speaker 3: not Indonesia, but a lot of families here do not
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  Speaker 3: accept it. So Indonesia had the same problem that we
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  Speaker 3: had all of the world, and that is during Pride
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  Speaker 3: Month celebrations. This year there were more attacks than ever.
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  Speaker 3: And in Indonesia there is a surge and abuse against
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  Speaker 3: LGBTQ students during Pride Month, which they say highlight the
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  Speaker 3: need for government action. They're not going to get any
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's needed, doesn't mean it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Harassment and attacks against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered university
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  Speaker 3: students in Indonesia escalated during June, a Human Rights Watch
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  Speaker 3: said today, at least ten public universities have recently adopted
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  Speaker 3: discriminatory regulations and are curbing student media coverage and social
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  Speaker 3: media discussions around gender and sexual diversity, undermining freedom of expression.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't aware they had that in Indonesia. The administration
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  Speaker 3: of these universities should take immediate steps to protect academic
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  Speaker 3: freedom and freedom of expression. They won't. The government should
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  Speaker 3: review and revise laws and policies that facilitate attacks on
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  Speaker 3: gay people. They won't. Indonesian authorities are looking the other
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  Speaker 3: way during the upsurge of attacks on gay people. No shit.
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  Speaker 3: In response to Pride Month celebrations, the Conservative Indonesia Ulima
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  Speaker 3: Council declared that sexual deviations should carry criminal penalties heavier
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  Speaker 3: than adultery. These are people who cheat on their wives.
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  Speaker 3: These are people who are on the down low, who
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  Speaker 3: go out and have same sex sex and just don't
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  Speaker 3: tell anybody. These are people who will dress up as
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  Speaker 3: plushies and screw each other. Okay, that's who they are.
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  Speaker 3: And they're gonna say that I'm a sexual deviant only
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  Speaker 3: when I do it right, So President Proboo Subianto, you
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  Speaker 3: can correct me there. In October twenty twenty five, signed
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  Speaker 3: a decree. Some guy in a silk outfit signs a
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  Speaker 3: piece of paper and suddenly we're all supposed to fall
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  Speaker 3: down and wet our pants. But he signed a decree
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  Speaker 3: concerning Indonesia's National Defense Policy, which stated that national security
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  Speaker 3: threats also come from non military factors, including the spread
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  Speaker 3: of LGBTQ culture. Because somehow a blowjob is a problem
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  Speaker 3: for national defense. I just you know, I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 3: just you gotta laugh, do you know, come on a
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  Speaker 3: threat to national security? They're afraid we're gonna throw glitter
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  Speaker 3: on the enemy. I what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: You know, well, I mean the American military is doing
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  Speaker 4: the same. I mean, there's just a lot of framing
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  Speaker 4: that they see it as an ideological attack. They see it,
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  Speaker 4: which means they see it as somehow part of information warfare.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it has nothing to do with national security and
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  Speaker 3: more to do with national public message or messaging of
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  Speaker 3: what is accepted and what is not. Let's see, I
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  Speaker 3: will I feel badly about laughing because ninety four people
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  Speaker 3: were injured in Indonesia over the month of one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and forty one victims. From twenty twenty four to twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five, ninety four cases documented a violence targeting gay individuals,
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  Speaker 3: and that, you know, I would say that's unacceptable, but
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  Speaker 3: it's only unacceptable to gay people in their ally. It
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  Speaker 3: is completely acceptable to MAGA and others in the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the world. So I guess it depends on where
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  Speaker 3: you're sitting, whether it's pardon.
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  Speaker 4: Actually can't help pardon. I think there's a wing within
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  Speaker 4: those that can help, but they rarely do that, being
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  Speaker 4: libertarian free speech apps flutists who if they see freedom
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  Speaker 4: of expression being curbed here, well, they don't necessarily have
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  Speaker 4: to be parlgbt but they can be pro free expression.
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  Speaker 4: And you happen to have a common interest of impact here.
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  Speaker 3: But largely yeah, So Albania has rejected all UN recommendations
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to LGBTQ people. One hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: UN members made recommendations for improving Australia's human rights protections.
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  Speaker 3: Recommendations were made for a range of marginalized groups, children, women,
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  Speaker 3: people with disabilities, Aboriginal people as we know in Australia,
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  Speaker 3: and the Torres Strait Islander people. However, gay people were
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  Speaker 3: the only group for which the government did not accept
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: any of the recommendations They accept of them for the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: for the Aboriginals, or for the women and the children.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Heaven forbid any of those marginalized group have gay people
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: in them. Yeah, the whole thought process escapes me. There
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: were eight recommendations removing the exemptions that allow religious schools
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: to legally discriminated against gays, eliminating legal exemptions that allowed
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: discrimination against trans people, delivering public education campaigns to reduce
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: stigma and discrimination against the queer community, Introducing a national
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: ban on conversion practices, banning on necessary surgeries or intersects
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: on intersex children, or improving systems to allow trans and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: gender diverse people to legally change their gender. All eight
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: of those were rejected by these bigoted morons in I
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: guess Albania, is it? It says the Albanese, but then
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: it says Australia. So and this is in Australia's news,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm guessing this is the Albanese of Australia. I'm
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: not clear on that the Albanese government.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Number of state. So this is probably out of the
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: universal periodical view of recommendation.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Oh, hold on, now, is show side.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: All right? The Australian Human Rights Commission criticized the government's response, noting,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: on average, other countries except seventy five percent seventy three
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: to seventy six. So the average of that is seventy
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: five Because I can do math, seventy five percent of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: all recommendations. Well, it'd be seventy four point eight five
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: percent of recommendations received. The government has only agreed to
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: recommendations for reforms that are already in place or underway.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: They essentially are ignoring over two hundred recommendations for new
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: reforms which would markedly improve the rights, health, and safety
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: of our first people's, people with disabilities, women, children, people
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: from diverse cultural backgrounds, gay people, and people in detention.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: By the way, I know it's lgbtqya, I just say gay,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Get over it. I'm old. This means the gap between
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: our international commitments and our domestic practice. I will not
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: say queer community. It's not that I am bothered by it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: And it's not that I am not a queer. I
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: just grew up in an error where that word is
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: not something we just banter around. So yeah, I mean,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: yet another example of how they're being very selective and
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: very targeted in their discrimination. Oh, will accept all of these,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Accept these right here, And there's no reason to not
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: accept them. No further, yeah, there's no reason to not.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: And and they're just they're just doing it to be mean.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Let's just be real, They're just mean, you.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Know, So that I mean a big thing. It seems
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: to be a status quo government. That's yeah, the big explainer.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: So in Bangladesh, a filthy city. There are anti lesbian
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: police operations in southern Bangladesh and anti gay vigilante groups
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: in central Bangladesh, and of course every human rights organization
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: across the globe is denouncing this. It goes back to
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: On June eleventh, an adult woman and two adolescent girls
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: were sent to jail in Barguna, Southern Bangladesh, following allegations
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: of involvement in a consensual same sex relationship. They also
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: reported without protest, the fact that a thirteen year old
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: school girl was placed in protective custody pursue it to
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: a court order because she was being exposed to lesbian propaganda.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: What they bought a cat, they rented a U hole?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: What?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Whatever? The detention of adolescent girls raises concerns you think
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: you think the legal age of consent is eighteen for
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: women in Bangladesh only sixteen for men. They've got bigger
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: issues in Bangladesh than gay people. But isn't that the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: case in all the places we report on? Gay is
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the last thing these places Bangladesh the poverty is overwhelming. Yes,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: you know, their economy is in the tanks. Their housing
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: is horrifying, Their cities are infested with vermin, there's clean
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: drinking water shortages, climate change is destroying part of their cities.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: And what are they worried about? Lesbians?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: It's a scapegoat, It's an easy scapegoat. It's political token.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Well, and we're a threat to national security if we
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: do it right. All right, what else is on our
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: our NonStop list.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Of Oh I every week I have to cut short
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: a substantial number that are present, so I kind of
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: have to do a irrelevant of the week. But there
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: is an enormous list I could present each week and
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: we can have a much longer show or to a
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: quicker pitter patter skimming a whole bunch. But there's just
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: an enormous number of stories every week. There's a lot.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Because you want me to jump out of the second
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: story windows, which you're trying to get me to jump
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: out there, it's only two floors. I won't really hurt myself,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll just maybe break The letters.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Are dwarfed by the positive stories are dwarfed by the
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: number of negative stories. Each week, I mean, there are
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: genuine positive stories, but we're definitely in a global period
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: of regression. There's no question about that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I you know, I want to expand on
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: that just a little with you because I think globally
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: we're not just gates educated, progressive, liberal, open minded, tolerant
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: people are endangered all across the globe. The right is
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: really rearing their ugly head in every country. Look what's
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: going on in Great Britain with the fight of Nigel Farage,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and you know, and he's a fucking asshole and he
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: took five million dollars from Chinese, some Chinese guy, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: now they're saying, hey, you shouldn't have and you should
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: have reported. So he resigned just so he can run
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: again and when he wins, which he will because in
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: his area it's trumpers basically and he's basically maga, so
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: he will win in his area. He thinks that puts
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: an end to the five million dollars or five million
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: pound debacle. It doesn't, but he thinks it will. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you know, and he's on the very far right. So
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you've got a lot of very far right leaders winning,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: You've got a lot of their parties winning but then again,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: in other parts of the world, you have very enlightened
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and very liberal and very left leaning or socialist people
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: winning as well. So you're right. There is a battle
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: going on right now for the soul of many nations,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: not just the United States. And right now we're in
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: the period where evil seems to be winning, but we
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: know it's cyclical and in a year we could be
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: sitting here talking about how half these things have been
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: repealed because things have swung the other way. Swinging both ways.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: That's the b in LGBT. You just by the way,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: just so you know, swing staff, can we have a
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: long talk about how I'll never understand bisexuality and I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: just I won't. You know, I don't. No, I don't.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And this is the truth. I believe there are people
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: who believe they are bisexual. I do, but I also
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: maintain that at the end of the day, when it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: all said and done, either you want to lay your
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: head on a chest with boobs or you want to
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: lay your head on a chest with hair, unless you're
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: in Ukraine where the boobs would have hair. But you
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I sorry. I Either either you
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: want to be with a man or a woman. At
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you are not ambivalent. There
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: is a gen there's a fifty one percent, so to say,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: forty nine percent of you might be fine with a man,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: fifty one percent of you wants a woman or vice versa.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Now I'm not by and that might upset by people
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: that I'm saying that because I don't understand their experience.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I just believe that ultimately, ultimately, at the end of
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: the day, you have an overall, an overriding preference you're
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: not completely neutral about. You could do it, you could
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: go the other way and have a meaningful relationship and
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it would be real and true. But at the end
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: of the day, you're going to end up with some
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of these I only say that because I've dated to
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: by people and they've ended up with women. They loved
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: me and we had a great relationship, but ultimately they
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: ended up with it. And I'm not bidden or am
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I We'll be back to discuss my bitterness, Devin. If
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you're listening, I'm not naming names. What oh who? From
• 29:26
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  Speaker 3: All right, we are back with Scott Jacobson from the
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: good Man Project, Rabble and other outlets in Ukraine in Nakiev,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: where he told me something really scary, which is that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: you guys are out of the missiles. You need to
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: knock the other missiles out of the sky, and that
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: that is alarming. I will say that one of the
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: good things this week that did come out about Donald Trump,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and I wish it was that he had two months
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: to live. But it was at NATO, at the summit
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: that he's at. Last year, when he was there, he
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: kept when he was referencing Ukraine, and he was awake
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: because he fell asleep with the President of Turkey. Of course,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: who wouldn't. But last year when he referenced Ukraine, he
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: kept talking about Vladimir Putin and what Putin said, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: you know Putin Putin Putin this year and they have
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: noted this in the press. He talked more of Zelenski
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: and what Zelenski is saying and what Zelenski is doing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Although he forgot his name at one point because he's
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: going out of his fucking mind, but he forgot his name,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: but he was, oh, you're the president of Ukraine or whatever.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So it was a nice shift for people that are
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: observing saying he seems to be more on the side
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: of and sympathetic to Zelenski now than Putin. I don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: know if that's going to equate to more military help
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: or more missiles or whatever, but I do know that
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: it is a positive change for him to not be
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: so Putin and be more of Zelensky.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: That's incidental. Uh, he likes and that others in questioning
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: mister Trump have indicated this. He likes winners. If you
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: are winning or appear to be winning, he will support you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: True, And he did say that Ukraine has done an
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: excellent job of winning. He used the word winning against Russia.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: So you're right he would change sides at a moment's notice.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: He thought he was going to be on the winning side.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: So you know, Christian nationalists, which are by the way
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: here in America. When you hear the term Christian nationalist.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: You should equate it to Trader because the Constitution specifically
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: prohibits Christian nationalism and has amendments in it to stop
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Christian nationalism. So when you hear the term Christian nationalists,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: just think Trader. Christian nationalist claims God doesn't want gay
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: people in the Republican Party. Well, on this we can agree,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: no gay person should be in the Republican Party. So
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I agree with the Christian nationalists. What do you think
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: about that? Yeah, let's see. Riley Gaines went off against
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Elliott Page. I don't know if you saw the picture
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: of Elliott Page. He's fucking ripped. He's got like a
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: twelve pack, and you know, is like taking the whole
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: trans thing to the next level. He's like, you know, uh,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: And people tried to deride him and it's sort of
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: backfired in their faces. What else is going on in
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: the gay news in the US? Not that we're going
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: to leave the Globe photo exhibited celebrating queer veterans. It's
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: kind of nice, nice news. I love when they say
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: things like drag race, legend, silky nutmeg ganash. Do you
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: have any idea who that person is? And I'm gay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I just I don't watch, I don't watch, I do
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: not watch drag race.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm gay.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: It was the eighties.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And there was a great interview on social media
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: with a gay Trump supporter who in the middle of
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: his interview realized that he didn't know what the fuck
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: he was talking about, and he got so embarrassed by
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: the interviewer. And it's a classic thing to go look
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: up it was, you know, it was really quite something
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: to happen. So, yeah, those are some of the LGBTQ
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: nation headlines here in the United States. You know, not
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: all of it is bad, like you said, there is
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: some good, not much. One thing that we haven't covered
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: that I have noticed, and now there is a story
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: at The Advocate about is that queer artists facing widespread
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: museum censorship according to curators of museums across the country in.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: What appear what is the frame of the type of censorship.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Well, they're talking about it mostly because of financing. Across
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the country, Exhibitors with gay art and themes are being altered, postponed,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: or outright canceled under tr from UH In February, Washington,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: DC's Art Museum of the Americas canceled Nature's Wild with
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Endel Dozine because it actually showed LGBT well gayshe which
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: we have reported on. It showed animals that are gay.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah. The Washington, DC Art Museum of the America's
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: canceled Nature's Wild with On del Gozine. The works were
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: inspired by Gauzine's twenty twenty one book Nature's Wild, Love,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Sex and Law the Caribbean, which reflected on art, activism
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and homosexuality in that region. The same month, Arizona Scottsdale
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Museum of Contemporary Art made Eleventh Hour edits to a
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: traveling exhibition of women, queer and trans artist which had
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: previously been called Transfeminism, altering the title of it to
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: a condensed show called There Are Other Skies. In April,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the Smithsonian National Museum of Afrimerica. In April, the Smithsonian
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: National Museum of African Art postponed a group exhibition of
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: works by gay African artist entitled Here Pride and Belonging
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: in African Art, which has been scheduled for a late
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: May opening to coincide with World Pride. The DC museum
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: cited budgetary reasons for postponing the show, but the timing
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: was hard to miss on the heels of the Trump
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: administration directives to the Smithsonian to remove improper, devisive or
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: anti American ideology from its museums, as well as the
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: forest and preemptive relocation of other world cultural events after
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: the Trump administration's firing at the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of art censorship going on across
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: the United States. There was a show called Transforming Liberty
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: tRNS and then Forming, which features a black trans woman
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: posing as the statue of Liberty, that got pulled after
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: the cancelation. A spokesperson for the Smithsonian, which oversees the gallery,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: disputed the claims and said the institution wanted more time
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: to better contextualize the paintings. Yeah. In June, across town,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: the First Homosexuals. The Art Institute of Chicago opened a
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: traveling exhibit of nineteenth century French artist Gustave bots Ci
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: l l e bo Ttes Cayibots, male focused and arguably
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: homo erotic work, changing the show's name from Gustav's Calibots
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Painting Men to gustav Calibots Painting His World. Katz's Association
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: curator for the First Homosexuals, Johnny Willis, added, we're not
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: asking him to say that Gustav was gay. We're asking
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: them to leave open the possibility and the foreground of
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: blurridness of these questions in the late nineteenth century. The
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Art Museum of Americus and Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: did not respond to NBC for request on commenting of
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: their cancelizations of the art exhibits of the LGBTQ community.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: A lot of the museums are privately funded, according to
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: one of the experts, so they say they worry about
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the witch funding such exhibits. One museum director said to
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: one of the canceled artists, yours is precisely the exhibition
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I'd like to show, and therefore it's the one that
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I cannot isn't that a powerful statement from an I
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: want to make a joke because art is gay. I mean,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: going to a museum is about as gay as it
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: can be, and it's good for you mentally staves off Alzheimer's.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: But a lot of artists, a lot of artists were
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: and are gay. So to try to say, I mean,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: are you going to take down Caravaggio's he had many
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: male affairs, you know, are you going to take Are
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: you going to destroy the Sistine Chapel because he might
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: have been taking it up the rump while he painted
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: the ceiling. I mean, you know, there are so many
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: very famous artists free to callow. Are you going to
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: take down every free to callow who famously had affairs
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: with women? You know? So there's so many artists that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: were by or gay or trans or whatever. I just
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: don't see how they're gonna sanitize it, but they appear
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: to be trying. But again, I rest on art is gay.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So there we go. What else? What didn't we get
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: to from you? Did we get? We didn't get to everything.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's more bad news. Don't worry, there's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: more bad news.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Uh, necessarily always bad it's just controversial and it's just
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: sort of someone's hot take. I guess something like that
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: as an opad, but it hasn't changed. Therefore it's not
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: necessarily bad news, just more of that same news. You know.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: The owners of the Stone wall In has said that JK.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Rowlings has damaged gay people across the world. I never
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: liked Camilla Parker Bulls. She uh had an affair with
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: a married man willingly and knowingly. She hurt Princess Diana intentionally.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Uh And as far as I'm concerned, she would never
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: be queen, and the queen didn't want her to be queen.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: She had a different name for her, but after the
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: queen died, they sort of just said started calling her queen.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: When she posed the day of London Gay Pride, Camilla
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Parker Bowles took a photo with JK. Rowings. So on
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the day that London is celebrating pride, you're going to
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: take a photo with the world's biggest transphobe turf I
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: believe is the trans exclusionary radical feminist. It does hurt,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: and I think it does hurt an LGBTQ movement when
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: someone that writes books that are so inclusive and so
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: multicultural and the last person you would expect. Now she,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: surprisingly JK. Rollings, has not said anything about gay people
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: in general, lesbian, gay men, bisexuals. Her beef is only
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: with trans and only with male to female trans people.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: She has never commented about female to male trans people.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: She only comments about male to female trans people. And
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: she says, you know, you don't bleed, you don't have babies,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: you're not a real woman, You've just had a cosmetic surgery.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: You know, all this other ridiculous bullshit. My whole thing
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: about it is, when did we start to listen to
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: the author of Hufflepuff, you know, a woman who created
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: fantasies for children. When did we start turning to her
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: for moral guidance on trans issues? You know what I'm saying.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: It's like she writes children's books, and good for her.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: And she did write some adult books which did okay,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: but not so well under an assumed name. She didn't
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: write them under her own name. But you know, I
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: could give two farts which she cares about trans people,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: you know, And the only reason that I care is
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: because it hurts them when she makes these statements, and
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: millions of people read them. You know it. It hurts
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the trans community, but I think most in the trans
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: community could give a fuck what she says. You know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: who is she. She's a billionaire who made money off
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: of selling children's novels. She's not a great thinker, she's
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: not a great scientist, a great theologian's she's a children's
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: book author. So as far as I'm concerned, her opinion
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: on the matter. And a quarter will get you, well,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: not much anymore. For a quarter. We used to say,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: get your phone call, but there's no more pay well,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: there's no more payphones. It used to get you a
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: phone call.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: But payphones, I mean as you can buy a paper
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: clip and some gum and your mcgarre where you can
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: go pretty far. But most of us aren't.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so, but I mean it is sad. But
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: the owners of the stonewall in have come out and
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: said that that they feel that, you know, she is
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: hurting people across the globe. I think they're giving her
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: a little too much credit. But who knows. And that's
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: the thing. A lot of these stories that we talk about,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: these people are so self important. They act like, like
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I said, like this guy signing a document suddenly erases
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: all the gay people in his country. No, it's done nothing,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you asshole. You know, so you got in your silk
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: robe and you signed a piece of paper with a pen.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Big fucking deal. Gay people are still going to be there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: They're still going to live. They'll avoid your police, but
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: they're going. We're not going anywhere, and especially to Turkey.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: But you know, so this, these people are so self important.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: How self important is JK Rowlings that she thinks her
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: opinion on trans people actually matters? I mean, how self
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: important is she? She's not a legislature, she doesn't make laws.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: She doesn't you know, you know, she might donate to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: campaigns that make laws and thus can change outcomes, but
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: she herself has never run for a public office. She's
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: not held in high public esteem. Most thirty year olds
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: are under have no fucking clue she is, unless they
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: watched the new series on HBO. But you know, so,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I haven't watched it because you know, there's one Harry
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Potter and that's Daniel Radcliffe. That's it. No need to
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: redo it. It's perfect the way it was, even though
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: she did write it. I read all her books. I
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: don't have them anymore. I got rid of them, but
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I read them all. You know, they were good books.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: She's a good author. Her opinions on trans people suck balls,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: trans balls fake silicon balls. I'm assuming that.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: She was always nope, being almost sexual, being heterosexual. These
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: are part and parcel of being a human species. As
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: I was noting in the last week session, that is
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: part of the human species. It is ancestral. And so
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: the question isn't what one famous person has in terms
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: of an opinion about it or not. The question is
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: what does fundamentally say about the diversity of human expression
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: of sexual orientation and desire.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I think the hardest thing for a human to do
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: is to say my opinion doesn't matter. That you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: when asked a question, Oh, when I was on CNN
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and they asked my opinion on abortion. It was in
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the news and they wanted me to talk about abortion,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: and I said, my opinion on abortion doesn't matter, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: they said, what do you mean, of course it matters.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I said, no, it doesn't. I'm a man, I don't
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: have ovaries, I can't get pregnant. I'm never going to
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: impregnate a woman. My opinion on abortion does not matter.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: It has no relevance in any conversation. I'm not involved,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not a woman, I don't have ovaries. My opinion
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: on it doesn't matter. They were shocked on CNN that
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I would say such a thing.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: If I may. And when there's a derivative from those
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: it's actually quite nuanced, quite subtle. It's not that you
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: don't have an opinion, it's that relative to a releatant
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: to the legislation and policy and so on. In healthcare,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. And similar for mine and my general
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: position on a lot of these things is to defer
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: to the people that have the relevant training and expertise,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: and it's their full time job.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: It's why I'm here and you're here. You are a
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: straight man talking about gay issues. So you bring in
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: someone who has the lived experience of a gay man
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to actually help you find depth to these stories, you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: because you haven't lived my life, although you could. I mean,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: my viewers think would make a cute couple, Well they
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: just said you were cute. I'm assuming they mean would
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: make a cute couple. But all that Scott is cute,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: hands off, early, hands off.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: So for twenty seven months I worked seven days a
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: week at the Question farm and a Question facility of
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: about sixty six five works, depending on how full whe
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: were that season. I did ranchannel labor, landscaping, gardening and
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: so on and so forth. Pretty much the only full
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: time male staff are there. Most of the clients are women.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Most of the staff are women part time at full time.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I remember near the ending of my time in duration
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: there before then transitioning to the work in traveling to Europe,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: particularly in Ukraine and the war. I remember talking to
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: the stable manager. We talked about things, a very very
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: nice lady, very hardworking, and we started talking and basically
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: apparently every staff member and every client had gone to
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: her because she said intermediary with regards to the full
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: barn manager and so on. It's a very famous family
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: accent them. And it basically came to the point of saying,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: so like, so everyone literally everyone has asked, so Scott SKay,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: you know every like everyone has asked every I had
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: no idea. Everyone had asked based on how I am.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I guess and no one asked and no one asked
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: you no, these are It's.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: You can tell I didn't work there, because I'd have
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: walked right up to you and said, so men, women
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: are horses. What's your pleasure?
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Well, there's there's there's things that can be discussed only
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: in certain context. Although that bar some Barnes can be
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: running that weird way where they separate workers and clientele,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: particularly if they're WEALTHI or quite distinctly, and this one
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: they did quite a mix where regular workers and clientele
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: and trainers had consistent and common interactions, so there was
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: more of a lateral set of relationships between.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And they all wanted to They were asking because they
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: wanted to ask you out, dude. That's the reason. This
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: morning at the park, cute man on wheelie cmow as
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I call him. He's a cute guy on a wheelie
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: and he has two Dobermans and he knows I called
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: him n hello to him every day. So today I'm
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: although there a missus, cute man on wheelie? Is there
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: a girlfriend, cute man on wheely or boyfriend?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Now it show.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Side because I am of the generation where you couldn't
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: really ask, if that makes any sense, you just you
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: just didn't ask, uh, And now I think to myself
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: that that those days are gone. You know, you want
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: to know about someone ask, you know, don't don't just
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: play coy. But I still think people are taken aback
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: if you just walk up to them and say, are
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: you gay? You know this morning at the park? Yes, pardon.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Two things about horse burns. One one are the clients.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I first asked, so, is there such a thing as
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: barn drama? She paused, She looked at me slyly and
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: said yes, okay, And that's a the tone for the
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: next two and two years and three months of work there.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Another thing is gossip and horse girl. Gossip is an
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: enormous part of horse life equestrian life, and so asking
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: indirectly is part of the gossip culture there. Also, you
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: don't want.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: To any man that rides massage is gay. Come on, hello,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: let's just me. Come on, you're on a prancing, fucking horse.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I have a jacket from the Major League Show Jumping World,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: which is like five star, which is four stars is
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Olympic fluestars. I did something really nice for a women,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: and an Olympic trainer gave me this very nice and
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: they have some desert park in California, and I remember
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: us talking to one of my the person who gave
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: me the jacket, and he just said at some point, oh,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: at least half of the trainers were gay.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Hello, it's like fashion, these straight guys that go
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: into the fashion world and get all upset when the
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: photographer hits on them. Dude, you're a fucking model. You
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: know you're in the fashion world. Half of you are
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: gay and the other half will sleep with anybody to
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: get a job. So you know, just ask uh. Here
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: in the United States, twenty one hospitals chest Here in
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: the United States, twenty one hospitals have ended or restricted
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: trans care for minors since January. This will be one
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: of the ones we closed with because this illustrates that
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: every week when we talk about this stuff, it's not
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: just policy, it's people's lives. Those twenty one hospitals provided
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: a valuable service for the trans community, kids, young adults, teens,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: and now for twenty one hospitals, that's like saying twenty
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: one hospitals no longer treat heart attacks. You know, it's
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: like you're a hospital. You're supposed to provide care, and
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: they're deciding which care is okay and which care is
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: not based on the administration in Washington. That is a
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: dangerous dangerous policy for any hospital to have about anything.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: You know, that's like a hospital saying we're not gonna
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: do the COVID vaccine because we think ivermectin works better
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: or whatever. You know, it's it's a dangerous, dangerous thing.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: And that's why, yes, and that's why policy matters, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: why the tone of the country matters. It's been okay,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: and I mean we can close with this because it
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: is now okay to bash gay people in a way
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: that it was not okay to do prior to Donald Trump,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: you know, just period. I mean under Reagan it was
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: bad and all of that, but it did get better
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: in the United States and the world. You know, Ireland.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I bring up Ireland, what is it now? Twelve years ago,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe even longer. They passed same sex marriage with
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: an eighty six percent approval rate in a Catholic country,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: a country that identifies as eighty five percent Catholic. And
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: why how did they get it passed by treating it
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: as a national pride issue, by saying, these are our people.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: They are our children, our uncles, our aunts, These are
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Irish people. These are Irish people, and they deserve the
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: same rights as every other Irish person and they played
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: to the national pride of the country and that overrode religion,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: you know. It did. People that you would have never
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: thought would have voted for same sex marriage in Ireland did.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: And the beauty of a country like Ireland, it's fucking law.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Move on, they don't go back and revisit it. Like abortion,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: abortion's legal there a Catholic country, it is legal there.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I believe that they have adopted the
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: EU's vision of trans so I believe that in Ireland
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: that trans rights are also pretty okay. I did see
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: some ify stuff there after Trump, after Trump, after Trump
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: came in. I don't think people realize how long it's
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: going to take to undo the damage of Donald Trump
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Nash internationally, you know, to make it so again. It's
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: that's why I have this movement now to just laugh
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: at MAGA, just pity them, feel sorry for them, their
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: cult members. They're brainwashed there. They worship a felon who
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: today got told to pay the five million dollars to
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Egene Carroll that he owes for practically raping her. You know,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: so I feel sorry for them, and soon we will
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: start laughing at them and making them the pariahs they
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: once were. And when that happens, anti gay sentiment will
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: swing back again to pro gay sentiment because young people
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: your age, you're young young people by far and away,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: no matter what the media tries to tell you, approval
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: for gays and lesbians amongst gen Z, gen y and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: millennials off the chart, it's overwhelming, like sixty seventy eighty
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: percent all think that gay people are fine and should
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: have rights and all of that. So when the old
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: farts start to just truly die, we'll start to see
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: a generational shift. It's going to take ten to fifteen years,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: but it's going to happen.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: I should have a quick footnote of him.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Ay oh yeah.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: There's two false narratives in American media. One is a
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Christian revival among young men. Not happening. No, any statistical
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: I said that.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: How funny I said that yesterday. I said, turning point
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: USA would like you to believe that there's this whole
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: generation of young men turning into this radicalized Christian I'm all,
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: it's not happening. That's not happening.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: No. I would look into the research of people like
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Ryan Burg or other professions who spend all their time
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: looking at the stuff. That'so point one point two is
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: in similar in tone run the idea of a conservative
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: resurgence as well also not true. We have seen that
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: younger men in say eighteen to twenty five, eighteen to
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: twenty four are less liberal a bit than prior generations,
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: but overwhelmingly the trend is progressive orientation.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: And women, I would go further, I would say they
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: they're not less liberal. Actually, I'd say they're more socialists.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: The young people are loving democratic socialist. In this country,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Mandami is a hero. They're loving Mendami and in Colorado
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: a democratic socialist. Just one, all right, Scott Scott Jacobson
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: live in the Ukraine. This Gay Week. Tune in every
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: week for it. Talk about self important broward Republican congressional candidate.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: You cannot be born gay because he knows everything. Oh,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: thank you so much. Stay safe, please please just just hie.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: No heroics, right, So in more serious tone, it's from
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: a completely difference.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: No, No, we're gonna go back, forget forget here, let
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: me let me off. I want to there we go
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I remember, well the word around the fact
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: that you wake up and thirty people are killed from
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: the bombardments. July second was like that, it was thirty
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: one killed, and obviously it's more injured. I mean then
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: now hearing we don't have defensive missiles, we have defense
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: for drones. That's a different story. But the ballistic missiles
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: cause real damage.
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: But if I'm not mistaken, aren't like seventy percent of
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: the attacks drone attacks?
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I probably?
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, how often is Russia lobbing the ballistic missiles?
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: They're expensive and Russia's running out of money.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, and no, I mean there are overly optimistic interpretations
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: of the context by some Western media. I don't want
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: to make a mistake that it's a block obviously, but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: in general I thinks are more in the Ukrainian favor
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: right now, particularly with what they call informal sanctions by
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: bombing oil refiners and such. Again, that's a whole other conversation.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: But if you take the May twenty four bombings, if
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: I remember off the top of mine, please fact took
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: me if anyone's getting this far into the session today,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: about ninety ballistic missiles and sixty drone six hundred drones.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: So that's probably about correct. In terms of the seventy
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: percent number just ballparking, but it varies attack to attack,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and the big attacks were ones like May twenty four,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: June second, speaking of the mornings, June fifteenth, July second,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: July sixth, and likely in the next seventy two hours
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: as well. This time, though, there are no defensive missiles.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I mean the other day, well, Trump just gave Ukraine
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: permission to and license to produce the Patriot Defense Missile system.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: But isn't that sort of a long term I mean,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: it's not like you guys, you guys like I like
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: your Ukrainian Now, It's not like Ukraine could They couldn't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: create that like in a week. You know, it's going
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: to take months to get that up and running or
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: even a year.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Well, my first preface, I am not a military armament expert.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: My first indication is yes, in terms of specifics, I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at specific It's going to.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Be very clear when I'm my being here. A couple
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: of things that are foundational. One, I'm here on the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: basis of human rights. I'm here on the basis of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: independent reportage. The moral frame here is more clear than
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of other wars where there are far more
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: crimes committed against Ukraine's in vice versa, although there have
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: been crimes committed by Ukrainians. That's part of one part
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: two eat basis as I am here as a foreigner,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: and I'm very mindful of the fact that the future
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: of Ukrainian society should be determined by Ukrainians. It is
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  Speaker 4: very important to them, and it should be acknowledged because
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  Speaker 4: they're being imposed militarily and propaganda wized by the Russians
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  Speaker 4: and being given hello with strings.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what Trump said on Wednesday at NATO was he
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  Speaker 3: was asked directly, would the US send additional Patriot interceptor
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  Speaker 3: missiles until Ukraine can build the system, and he said
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  Speaker 3: the word some. Some could be sent immediately, but he
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  Speaker 3: says the US needs more for itself too, and that
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  Speaker 3: the Ukraine could begin to produce its own quote quickly
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  Speaker 3: unquote according to Trump, what that means in the article
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't really say how fast quickly is so he said,
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  Speaker 3: we could say so. It sounds like he's willing to
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  Speaker 3: entertain some in the bridge as a bridge, but we're
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  Speaker 3: out of them too. We've used a lot of ours
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  Speaker 3: in Iran, and we're we're running out of that report
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  Speaker 3: cannot yesterday. We're running out of Patriot missiles and they're
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  Speaker 3: something like one point three million dollars each to build.
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  Speaker 4: So on the pricing and the weapons itself, that's fine
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  Speaker 4: to use at a university across both cases, both cases
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  Speaker 4: in a war context are not the same. The Israeli
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  Speaker 4: American war with run America has.
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  Speaker 3: Oh by the way, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's four
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  Speaker 3: million dollars per Patriot missile to produce and predace four million's.
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  Speaker 4: Amazingly expensive and probably goes up in price when he
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  Speaker 4: gets shipped and sold externally. Although these ones are going
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  Speaker 4: to be produced a mess. That's that's a different story.
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  Speaker 4: But America has two big anti missile ballistic missile defense systems, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: two oceans on either side. Yes, Ukraine does not.
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  Speaker 3: Right, many a US president has said that we have
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  Speaker 3: been protected from a lot of what the arrest of
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  Speaker 3: the world experiences because of the safety of our oceans.
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  Speaker 3: You know that Europe has had to deal with us, right,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, Europe has had to deal with a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different invaders that we haven't because we have
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  Speaker 3: big bodies of water between US and China. And Russian
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  Speaker 3: Europeans shit, you know, as you all melt over, there
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  Speaker 3: six hundred and ninety million dollars to stock a battery
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  Speaker 3: with missiles upon purchase, it's four hundred million for the
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  Speaker 3: physical radar launchers and command components for one single battery
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  Speaker 3: of Patriot missiles, and then it's six hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 3: million to stalk that battery. So you're looking at one
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  Speaker 3: point one billion dollars for a fully stopped battery of
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  Speaker 3: Patriot missiles. And because of the highly complex supply chain
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  Speaker 3: involving hundreds of vendors, each missile takes over two years
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  Speaker 3: to build, So that answers our question. There's no way
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine can start building their own and and you wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have them for two years.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it would probably need to be something along
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  Speaker 4: the lines of the long term plan of peace when
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  Speaker 4: your contiguous border is enormous with a long time, multi
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  Speaker 4: generational aggressive right.
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  Speaker 3: It's not gonna help the war right now, but it
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  Speaker 3: could help future wars from breaking out, yes, because they
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  Speaker 3: would have these Patriot missiles. All right, Well, Scott, you
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  Speaker 3: stay safe. Every time I fucking wake up and it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, eighteen people dead in Kiev. Oops, he's gone.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, it is the truth. Though. Every time I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: wake up and I see like ten or twelve people
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  Speaker 3: dead in Kiev, I worry. And just now he just
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  Speaker 3: disconnected very abruptly. Did he get hit by a missile.
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  Speaker 3: It's really weird when you have a friend in a
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  Speaker 3: war zone. All right, I am Karel, be who you
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  Speaker 3: want to be, son and hurt anybody. Thank you for
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: joining us on this gay week plus our Ukraine update
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  Speaker 3: with someone that is in Ukraine. I will see you
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  Speaker 3: today is Thursday. I will see you back on Monday
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  Speaker 3: unless I am in Tucson with my niece. Her kidney
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  Speaker 3: function was at nineteen percent on Wednesday today. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what it's at yet, but that's not good, so
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  Speaker 3: I may have to get out there. All right, be safe.
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  Speaker 3: I love you, and until next week, until Monday, I
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  Speaker 3: try to enjoy life. Oh is he back? So I
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  Speaker 3: hope he's back. He didn't get hit by a missile.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it popped in like he was back. Obviously
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  Speaker 3: he's not hit by a missile because it popped in
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  Speaker 3: Scott I can try to let me see because I'd
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  Speaker 3: like for him to say goodbye. Did you pop back in.
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  Speaker 3: We can't hear you or see you if you're there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, he popped back out again. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to reconnect. I'm kind of curious, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Are you okay? We thought a missile might have come
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  Speaker 3: and bombed you before you said goodbye? Okay, that's acceptable.
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  Speaker 3: It can die. You can't just remember that. But hasn't
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  Speaker 3: hasn't that always been in every aren't we isn't that
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  Speaker 3: the same for healthcare in the United States? Why don't
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  Speaker 3: we have universal health care?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: The costs? Well, how much is a human life worth?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'll close with this story to you to illustrate.
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  Speaker 3: I'll close with this to illustrate how that works. My
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  Speaker 3: sister her partner a man, because now, dasn't you say partner?
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  Speaker 3: Everyone wonders like, oh, is it a girl? Her male
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  Speaker 3: partner that she's been with for twenty plus years. I
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  Speaker 3: don't like him. And obviously, now that's a scorpion because
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: a scorpion bid him. They live in Arizona. Three days ago,
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  Speaker 3: he was out gardening and he reached down and a big,
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  Speaker 3: ugly scorpion bid him. His hand immediately started intense pain.
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  Speaker 3: It moved to his wrist, it went to his elbow.
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  Speaker 3: That's obviously the toxin moving its way up. They rush
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  Speaker 3: him to the hospital. By the time he gets to
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  Speaker 3: the hospital, his shoulder is in huge pain. His right
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: his left rib cage is in huge pain. The doctor
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: walks in and almost like good news, bad news. I've
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  Speaker 3: got good news. There is an anti toxin for this bite.
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  Speaker 3: But do you have insurance? And he said no, I
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  Speaker 3: don't have insurance. And he said, then I can't give
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  Speaker 3: you the anti tooxin because it's fifty thousand dollars. It's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars a vial, and it will take five
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  Speaker 3: vials over the next two hours to treat you. And
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  Speaker 3: so they're like, well, what's going to happen, And he said,
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  Speaker 3: I have to do palliative care on you for eight
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  Speaker 3: hours to treat whatever symptoms pop up. And if you code,
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  Speaker 3: or if you start drooling, or if you lose vision,
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  Speaker 3: or if you start twitching uncontrollably, then I can give
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  Speaker 3: you the antitoxin. But whereas you don't have insurance, that
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  Speaker 3: is the only way I can give it to you.
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  Speaker 3: So his life was worth fifty thousand dollars. That's how
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  Speaker 3: much his life was worth. I told my sister to say,
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  Speaker 3: I said, you should have said, just give him the shot.
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  Speaker 3: We'll pay for it. And then when you get the bill,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: do what everyone else doesn't file bankruptcy. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: so that's what a human life was worth in Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: fifty grand. So we're constantly faced with that question.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And unfortunately a human life thing worth much that you
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  Speaker 3: know they're willing to sacrifice them for to be cannon fodder.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And it's really sad. Yeah, there are many people in
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  Speaker 3: this country that will slit your fucking throat for five dollars.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I watch all these murdered death kill shows.
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  Speaker 3: We I mean, I don't want to keep you, but
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  Speaker 3: we talk about not being a Christian nation. I just
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: found a show on Netflix called Worst Neighbor Ever. And
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  Speaker 3: it's all these stories where a neighbor kills another neighbor
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  Speaker 3: and I thought, and I bet they're Christians. I bet
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  Speaker 3: I bet their Christians. But what happened to love thy neighbor?
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  Speaker 3: You know? I just watched one last night. This lady
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  Speaker 3: across the street was a nut and the other neighbor
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  Speaker 3: couldn't take it anymore, went across the street and slapped
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  Speaker 3: the shit out of her, didn't harm her, just knocked
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  Speaker 3: her down. She are arrested and put in jail for
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  Speaker 3: eighteen months. But the cops were like, this is simple assault.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: She's going to get anger management and probation. That wasn't
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: enough for that woman, so she picked up a gun,
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  Speaker 3: walked across the street and shot them both and then
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: blamed the system, said it was the system's fault. And
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  Speaker 3: I've seen many shows where they go rob someone and
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  Speaker 3: they get five or ten dollars and they killed one
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  Speaker 3: or two people for five or a car. They hijacked
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  Speaker 3: them in a car and they kill them to take
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  Speaker 3: their car, which is worth you know, ten grand. It's
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  Speaker 3: just it's the cost of a human life isn't much
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  Speaker 3: these days, particularly a gay life. And we'll just leave
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  Speaker 3: it at that. I am kral be who you want
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  Speaker 3: to be selling to hurt anybody. Scott stays safe. We
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  Speaker 3: will see you next week.