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CULTXCOSMIC: Uncle Sam Wants Your Children PT 4 · Cosmic Peach

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Speaker 1: Oh bed that trigger Warner. This podcast may include explicit
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Speaker 1: content that will take you out of your comfort zone
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Speaker 1: and make you question reality. Listener's discretion is advised. Hello,
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. We are back at
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Speaker 1: it for for work of Uncle Sam Wants Your Children,
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Speaker 1: and so we're just gonna jump right into it. Let
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Speaker 1: me get a sip. Okay, So we learned a little
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Speaker 1: bit about Frank Foxter in the last episode, and that's
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Speaker 1: actually where we are going to pick up on. So
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Speaker 1: just a few years actually after the conviction of Frank Foxter,
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Speaker 1: another child exploitation case surfaced in the state of fucking Florida.
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Speaker 1: And we're jumping right the fuck into this because there
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Speaker 1: is a lot of information that we need to cover
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Speaker 1: in this episode before we can move on to our
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Speaker 1: next mini series. So let's just get right into it.
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Speaker 1: So on February seventh, nineteen eighty seven, not long before
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Speaker 1: the Larry King and Craig Spence operations were exposed, y'all
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Speaker 1: remember the Franklin cover up shit, the Washington Post ran
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Speaker 1: an interesting story that at the time did not seem
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Speaker 1: to have any particular national significance. The article concerned a
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Speaker 1: case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and read in
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Speaker 1: part as follows here we go quote. Authorities investigating the
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Speaker 1: alleged abuse of six children found with two men in
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Speaker 1: a Tallahassee, Florida park discovered material yesterday in the Washington
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Speaker 1: area that they say points to a nineteen sixties style
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Speaker 1: commune called the Finders, described in a court document as
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Speaker 1: a cult that allegedly conducted brainwashing and used children in rituals.
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Speaker 1: DC police, who searched a northeast Washington warehouse wink to
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Speaker 1: the group, removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs,
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Speaker 1: and photographic contact sheets. Some photos visible through a bag
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Speaker 1: carried from the warehouse at thirteen oh seven Fourth Street,
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Speaker 1: were wallet sized pictures of children similar to school photos,
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Speaker 1: and some were of naked children. DC police sources said
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Speaker 1: some of the item sees yesterday showed pictures of children
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Speaker 1: engaged in what appeared to be cult rituals. Officials of
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Speaker 1: the US Customs Service, called in aid in the investigation,
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Speaker 1: said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children
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Speaker 1: involved in blood lighting, ceremonies of animals, and one photograph
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Speaker 1: of a child in chains. Customs officials said that they
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Speaker 1: were looking into whether a child pornography operation was being conducted.
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Speaker 1: Their links to the DC area have led authorities into
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Speaker 1: a far reaching investigation that includes the finders, a group
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Speaker 1: of about forty people that court documents allege is led
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Speaker 1: by a man named Maren Petty, and their various homes,
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Speaker 1: including the duplex apartment building in Glover Park, the Northeast
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Speaker 1: Washington warehouse, and a ninety acre farm in rural Madison County, Virginia.
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Speaker 1: The children, identified in a court document only by the
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Speaker 1: first names of Honeybee, John, Franklin, b B. Max, and Mary,
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Speaker 1: were described as dirty, unkempt, hungry, disturbed, and agitated. They
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Speaker 1: had been living in the rear of the van for
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Speaker 1: some time, the document said. Yesterday, police spokesman Hunt said
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Speaker 1: one of the children, a six year old girl, showed
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Speaker 1: signs of sexual abuse. Five of the children were uncommunicative,
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Speaker 1: according to police, and none seemed to recognize objects such
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Speaker 1: as staplers or other office supplies. However, the oldest was
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Speaker 1: able to give investigators some information. She said that the
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Speaker 1: two men were their teachers and before they're arrests in
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Speaker 1: the park, the two adult caretakers quote unquote had told
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Speaker 1: police that they were teachers from Washington transporting these children
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Speaker 1: to Mexico to a school, four brilliant children. When police
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Speaker 1: asked the men where the children's mothers were, they said
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Speaker 1: they were being weaned from their mothers end quote. Now
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Speaker 1: we are introduced to the Fineers Club, another society that
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Speaker 1: gets brought up all the time and mentioned all the time,
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Speaker 1: the Finders, the Finders, but nobody ever bothers to go
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Speaker 1: fucking digging for this fucking information. I'm going to put
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Speaker 1: it out on a platter for you so now you
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Speaker 1: can understand what the fuck was going on with this
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Speaker 1: Finder's Club. Now, it was nearly seven fucking years before
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Speaker 1: the press revisited this Finder's case, and this seven year
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Speaker 1: follow up was being provided by US News and World
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Speaker 1: Report quote unquote, and you know, the strange saga of
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Speaker 1: the Finders Club would have probably disappeared forever if not
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Speaker 1: for the rumors surrounding the case that would just not
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Speaker 1: go away. And these rumors were addressed in US news
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Speaker 1: and are as follows quote. One of the unresolved questions
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Speaker 1: involves allegations that the Finders are somehow linked to the
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Speaker 1: Central Intel Legence Agency. What do you know custom Service
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Speaker 1: documents reveal that in nineteen eighty seven, when customs agents
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Speaker 1: sought to examine the evidence gathered by Washington, DC Police,
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Speaker 1: they were told that the Finder's investigation had become an
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Speaker 1: internal matter. The police report on the case had been
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Speaker 1: classified secret. Even now, Tallahassee police complained about the handling
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Speaker 1: of the Finder's investigation by DC police. They say they
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Speaker 1: dropped this case like a hot rock quote unquote. DC
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Speaker 1: Police will not comment on the matter. As for the CIA,
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Speaker 1: ranking officials describe allegations about links between the intelligence agency
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Speaker 1: and the Finders as hogwash quote unquote, perhaps the result
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Speaker 1: of a simple mix up with DC police. The only connection,
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Speaker 1: according to the CIA, is that a firm that provided
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Speaker 1: computer training to CIA officers also employed several members of
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Speaker 1: the Finders Club. And get this shit, that's an in
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Speaker 1: quote also employed several members of the Finders Club in quote,
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Speaker 1: and get this it okay. The firm that supplied the
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Speaker 1: training to the CIA officers didn't just employ several members
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Speaker 1: of the Finders It also appears to have, in effact,
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Speaker 1: been a wholly owned subsidiary of the Finders organization. You
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Speaker 1: should also know that the CIA does not as a
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Speaker 1: general rule of thumb assign the training of its officers
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Speaker 1: to outside contractors unless the private firm utilized in this
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Speaker 1: capacity is a CIA front. So that that's basically saying
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Speaker 1: that the Finders and the CIA are together. They're fucking
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Speaker 1: each other. They're friends with benefits one and the same.
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Speaker 1: And the Finders are fucking getting caught with kids transporting
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Speaker 1: them and shit, having him fucking living out of vans
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Speaker 1: and shit kids some of them are nonverbal, don't even
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Speaker 1: know what a fucking stapler is like. Again, the CIA's
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Speaker 1: got its little hands into everything. So but anyways, in
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Speaker 1: the last paragraph of the US News report, listen to
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Speaker 1: this shit. Okay, here's a quote quote. The CIA's interest
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Speaker 1: in the Finders may stem from the fact that group
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Speaker 1: leader Marion Petty's late wife once worked for the agency
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Speaker 1: and that his son worked for a CIA proprietary firm
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Speaker 1: called Air America. End quote. So Mare and Petty, the
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Speaker 1: leader of the Finders, his wife, and his son are CIA. Now.
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Speaker 1: Aside from acknowledging these by then widely known in Washington
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Speaker 1: CIA connections, the US News reporters did their very best
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Speaker 1: to bury the Finder's story once and for all, especially
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Speaker 1: after broke aloose that the leader of the shitheads fucking
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Speaker 1: wife and son are CIA, and that they're letting some
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Speaker 1: kind of subsidiary fucking training fucking for the CIA and
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Speaker 1: shit like from the Finders. So now they've got to
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Speaker 1: bury all this information, right, So here's the quote. The
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Speaker 1: case is almost seven years old now, but matters surrounding
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Speaker 1: a mysterious group known as the Finders keeps growing curiouser
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Speaker 1: and curiouser. In early February nineteen eighty seven, an anonymous
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Speaker 1: tipster in Tallahassee, Florida, made a phone call to police
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Speaker 1: two well dressed men seemed to be supervising six disheveled
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Speaker 1: and hungry children in a local park. The caller said
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Speaker 1: the cops went after the case like bloodhounds, at least
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Speaker 1: at first. The two men were identified as members of
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Speaker 1: the Finders. They were charged with child abuse in Florida.
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Speaker 1: In Washington, d C. Police and US Customs Service agents
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Speaker 1: rated a duplex apartment building and a warehouse connected to
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Speaker 1: the group. Among the evidence seized detailed instructions on obtaining
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Speaker 1: children for unknown purposes and several photographs of new children.
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Speaker 1: According to a Customs Service memorandum obtained by US News,
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Speaker 1: one photo appeared to accent the child's genitals. The more
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Speaker 1: the police learned about the Finders, the more bizarre they seemed.
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Speaker 1: There were suggestions of child abuse, satanism, dealing in pornography,
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Speaker 1: and ritualistic animal slaughter. None of these allegations was ever proved. However,
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Speaker 1: the child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee
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Speaker 1: were dropped. All six of the children were eventually returned
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Speaker 1: to their mothers, though in the case of two conditions
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Speaker 1: were attached by a court. Washington DC police began backing
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Speaker 1: away from the Finder's investigation. The group's practices, the police said,
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Speaker 1: were eccentric but not illegal. End quote. And this article
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Speaker 1: closed by complaining that quote, some rumors can last an
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Speaker 1: awfully long time end quote. Indeed, motherfucker, they can so,
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Speaker 1: even though the rumors, because that's what they're calling them,
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Speaker 1: even though all this shit was found out, even though
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Speaker 1: the rumors were circulated out side of the media, which
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Speaker 1: has never again mentioned the case. By the way, that
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Speaker 1: does not mean that there was no additional information available
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Speaker 1: on the subject, because, as the US News reporters noted
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Speaker 1: in their report, there was a certain Customs Service memorandum
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Speaker 1: that was written at the time of the original nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty seven investigation, and that document was in the hands
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Speaker 1: of the news reporters at the time the story was
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Speaker 1: being written, which should have been faithfully reported. But for
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Speaker 1: some fucking reason, the news concluded quote none of the
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Speaker 1: allegations were ever proved end quote. But still it might
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Speaker 1: be nice to review the document to see what kind
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Speaker 1: of eccentric not illegal quote unquote practices the Finders group
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Speaker 1: was involved in it for ourselves, would it not? Well?
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Speaker 1: Here we go. The memo in question is actually a
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Speaker 1: series of memos that were written by US Customs Service
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Speaker 1: agent Ramone J. Martinez, and in the officer's own words,
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Speaker 1: this is what he observed while participating in the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Here we go. Quote. On Thursday, February fifth, nineteen eighty seven,
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Speaker 1: this office was contacted via telephone by Sergeant joe Anne
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Speaker 1: van Meeter of the Tallahassee Police Department Juvenile Division. Sergeant
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Speaker 1: van Meeter requested assistance in identifying two adult males and
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Speaker 1: six minor children ages seven years to two years. The
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Speaker 1: adult males were tentatively identified by TPD as Michael Hulahan
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Speaker 1: and Douglas Amherman. Both of Washington, d C. Who were
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Speaker 1: arrested the previous day on charges of child abuse. The
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Speaker 1: police had received an anonymous phone call about two well
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Speaker 1: dressed white men wearing suits and ties in Myers Park, Tallahassee,
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Speaker 1: apparently watching six dirty and unkempt children in the playground area.
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Speaker 1: Hulihan and Amerman were near a nineteen eighty blue Dodge
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Speaker 1: van bearing a Virginia license plate number XHW five five seven,
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Speaker 1: the inside of which was later described as foul smelling,
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Speaker 1: filled with maps, books, letters, and with a mattress situated
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Speaker 1: to the rear of the van, which appeared as if
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Speaker 1: it were used as a bed, and the overall appearance
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Speaker 1: of the van gave the impression that all eight persons
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Speaker 1: were living in it. The children were covered with insect bites,
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Speaker 1: were very dirty, most of the children were not wearing
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Speaker 1: any underwear, and all of the children had not been
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Speaker 1: bathed in what appeared to be weeks. The men were
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Speaker 1: arrested and charged with multiple counts of child abuse and
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Speaker 1: lodged in the Leon County Jail. Once in custody, the
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Speaker 1: men were somewhat evasive in their answers to the police
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Speaker 1: regarding the children and stated only that they both were
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Speaker 1: the children's teachers and that they were all en route
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Speaker 1: to Mexico to establish a school for brilliant children end quote.
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Speaker 1: So holy fuck shit. They were caught red handed, right
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Speaker 1: transporting children that hadn't taken a bath in weeks, living
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Speaker 1: out of a van, couldn't nonverbal children? Where did they
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Speaker 1: get them? So US Customs was contacted because the police
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Speaker 1: officers involved suspected the adults of being involved in child pornography. Hello,
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Speaker 1: that should be obvious, and they knew the Custom Service
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Speaker 1: to not only have a network of child pornography investing gators,
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Speaker 1: but also the child Pornography and Protection Unit. So this
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Speaker 1: agent crete Lao stated the two adults were well dressed,
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Speaker 1: white males. They had custody of six children, white boys
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Speaker 1: and girls, ages three to six years old. The children
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Speaker 1: were observed to be poorly dressed, bruised, dirty bug bites
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Speaker 1: all over their bodies, behaving like wild animals in a
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Speaker 1: public park in Tallahassee, and so Agent crete Lao was
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Speaker 1: further advised that the children were unaware of the function
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Speaker 1: and purpose of telephones. They didn't know what TVs were,
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Speaker 1: they didn't know how to use toilets, and that the
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Speaker 1: children had stated they were not allowed to live indoors
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Speaker 1: and were given food as a reward. Now get this shit.
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Speaker 1: A Detective Bradley had initiated an investigation on the two
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Speaker 1: addresses provided by the Tallahassee Police Department in December of
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six because it turns out an informant had
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Speaker 1: given him information regarding a cult known as the Finders,
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Speaker 1: operating various businesses out of a warehouse located at thirteen
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Speaker 1: oh seven Fourth Street Northeast and were supposed to be
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Speaker 1: housing children at thirty nine to eighteen West Street, Northwest.
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Speaker 1: Those addresses sound bizarre to me, but that's what it was.
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Speaker 1: So the information was specific in describing blood rituals and
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Speaker 1: sexual orgies involving children, and an unsolved murder in which
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Speaker 1: the Finders may be involved. So, with the information provided
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Speaker 1: by the informant, Detective Bradley was able to match some
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Speaker 1: of the children in Tallahassee with names of children known
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Speaker 1: or alleged to be in the custody of the fucking Finders. Also,
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Speaker 1: Detective Bradley was able to match the tentative idea of
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Speaker 1: the adults with known members of the Finders. So Bradley
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Speaker 1: consulted with a member of the Association of the United
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Speaker 1: States Army. His name was Henry Binner, and obtained search
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Speaker 1: warrants for the two premises. A team went to thirteen
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Speaker 1: oh seven four Street and to thirty nine to eighteen
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Speaker 1: West Street, whatever and during the execution of the warrant
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Speaker 1: at thirty nine eighteen West Street, an agent was able
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Speaker 1: to observe and access the entire building. There were several
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Speaker 1: subjects on the premises, only one was deemed to be
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Speaker 1: connected with the Finders. He was located in a room
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Speaker 1: equipped with several computers, printers, and numerous documents. Cursory examination
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Speaker 1: of the documents revealed detailed instructions for obtaining children for
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Speaker 1: unspecified purposes. The instructions included the impregnation of female members
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Speaker 1: of the Finders, purchasing children, trading and kidnapping children. It
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Speaker 1: was essentially kidnap uh purchase or trading children for dummies.
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Speaker 1: There were also messages with account numbers found on a computer.
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Speaker 1: One such message specifically ordered the purchase of two children
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Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, to be arranged through a contact in
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Speaker 1: the Chinese embassy. There. Another message expressed interest in bank
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Speaker 1: secrecy quote unquote situations. Other documents identified interests in transfers
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Speaker 1: to the United Kingdom, numerous properties under the control of
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Speaker 1: the Finders, a keen interest in terrorism, explosives, and the
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Speaker 1: evasion of law enforcement. These were all documents found in
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Speaker 1: this computer room. Also found in the computer room was
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Speaker 1: a detailed summary of the events surrounding the arrest and
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Speaker 1: taking into custody of the two adults and six children
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Speaker 1: in Tallahassee the previous night. There was also a set
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Speaker 1: of instructions which appeared to be broadcast via a computer network,
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Speaker 1: which advised the participants to quote move the children in
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Speaker 1: quote and keep them moving through different jurisdictions, and instructions
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Speaker 1: on how to avoid police attention. Agents were also able
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Speaker 1: to observe numerous documents which described explicit sexual conduct between
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Speaker 1: the members of the community known as the Finders. They
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Speaker 1: saw a large collection of photographs of unidentified persons. Some
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Speaker 1: of the photographs were nudes believed to be members of
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Speaker 1: the Finders. There were numerous photos of children, some nude,
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Speaker 1: at least one of which was a photo of a
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Speaker 1: child on display and appeared to accent the child's genitals.
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Speaker 1: One of the officers was presented with a photo album
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Speaker 1: for a review. The album contained a series of photos
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Speaker 1: of adults and children dressed in white sheets participating in
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Speaker 1: a blood ritual. The rituals centered around the execution of
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Speaker 1: at least two goats. The photos portrayed the execution, disembowment, skinning,
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Speaker 1: and dismemberment of the goats at the hands of the children,
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Speaker 1: and this included the removal of the testes of a
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Speaker 1: male goat, the discovery of a female goat's womb and
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Speaker 1: the baby goats inside the womb, and the presentation of
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Speaker 1: a goat's head to one of the children. So so
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Speaker 1: much for the Finders Club being what did they say?
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Speaker 1: Eccentric but not illegal? What does that sound like to you?
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Speaker 1: So Further inspection of the premises disclosed numerous files relating
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Speaker 1: to activities of the organization in different parts of the world.
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Speaker 1: Locations were observed in London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa,
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Speaker 1: Costa Rica and Europe. There was also a file identified
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Speaker 1: as Palestinian. Other files were identified by member name or
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Speaker 1: project name. The projects appearing to be operated for commercial
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Speaker 1: purposes under front names for the Finders. There was one
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Speaker 1: file entitled Pentagon break In, and others referring to members
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Speaker 1: operating in foreign countries. There were even intelligence files on
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Speaker 1: private families not related to the Finders. It also appeared
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Speaker 1: the Finders took in in local newspaper advertisements for babysitters,
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Speaker 1: tutors and the like, which is really fucking interesting. So
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Speaker 1: apparently a member of the Finders would respond to these
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Speaker 1: ads and gather as much information as possible about the
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Speaker 1: family who posted the ad. The use to which this
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Speaker 1: information was being put is still unknown, but honestly super interesting.
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Speaker 1: There was also a large amount of data collected on
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Speaker 1: various childcare organizations. Now. They also found that the warehouse
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Speaker 1: contained a large library, two kitchens, a sauna, a hot tub,
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Speaker 1: and a video room quote unquote. The video room seemed
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Speaker 1: to be set up as like this indoctrination center. It
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Speaker 1: also appeared that the organization had the capability to produce
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Speaker 1: its own videos. There were what appeared to be training
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Speaker 1: areas for children in what appeared to be an altar
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Speaker 1: set up in a residential area of the warehouse. Many
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Speaker 1: jars of get this shit here we go again, urine
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Speaker 1: and feces were located in that area. Back to the
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Speaker 1: fucking piss and shit, But so needless to say, contrary
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Speaker 1: to the claims of the US News, running an international
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Speaker 1: terrorist organization specializing in the trafficking of children is definitely
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Speaker 1: more than just fucking eccentric, unless the organization doing the
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Speaker 1: trafficking is run by the goddamned CIA, right an actually
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Speaker 1: group leader, Maren Petty, you shed additional light on his
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Speaker 1: connections to the CIA in an interview with This steam
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Speaker 1: Shovel Press in nineteen ninety eight. Recounting the history of
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Speaker 1: his group, Petty had this to say, quote, going back
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Speaker 1: to World War Two, I kept an open house mainly
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Speaker 1: to intelligence people in Washington, oss people passing through things
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Speaker 1: like that. In quote, Petty was not an intelligence asset himself,
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Speaker 1: though in fact he spent his entire life serving as
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Speaker 1: a counter spy. As a private citizen, he has taken
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Speaker 1: on the job of monitoring the CIA. As for his wife,
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Speaker 1: Petty claims that he sent her quote in as a
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Speaker 1: spy to spy on the CIA for me. She was
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Speaker 1: very happy about it, happy to tell me everything she
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Speaker 1: found out. She was in a key place, you know,
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Speaker 1: with the records and stuff and she could find out
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Speaker 1: anything I wanted in quote ain't that nice? I mean
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Speaker 1: the same probably applies to Petty Son too, And Petty
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Speaker 1: sums up his relationship with the CIA by acknowledging that
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Speaker 1: there quote are some connections, but not to me personally
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Speaker 1: end quote. Interestingly enough, though, for a group that claimed
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Speaker 1: no direct connection to the Central Intelligence Agency, they obviously
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Speaker 1: had very powerful people within that community protecting it, As
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Speaker 1: the final Custom Service memo reveals, here we go quote.
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Speaker 1: On Thursday February fifth, nineteen eighty seven, Senior Special Agent
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Speaker 1: Harold and I assisted the Washington d C. Metropolitan Police
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Speaker 1: Department with two search warrants involving the possible sexual exploitation
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Speaker 1: of children. During the course of the search warrants, numerous
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Speaker 1: documents were discovered which appeared to be concerned with international
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Speaker 1: trafficking and children, high tech transfer to the United Kingdom,
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Speaker 1: and international transfer of currency. On March thirty first, nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty seven, I contacted Detective Jim Bradley of the Washington
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Speaker 1: d C. Metropolitan Police Department. I was to meet with
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Speaker 1: Detective Bradley to review the documents seized pursuant to two
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Speaker 1: search warrants executed in January nineteen eighty seven. The meeting
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Speaker 1: was to take place on April second or third, nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty seven. On April second, nineteen eighty seven, I arrived
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Speaker 1: at MPD at approximately nine am. Detective Bradley was not available.
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Speaker 1: I spoke to a third party who was willing to
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Speaker 1: discuss the case with me on a strictly off the
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Speaker 1: record basis. I was advised that all the passport data
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Speaker 1: had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation.
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Speaker 1: The State Department intern advised the NPD that all travel
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Speaker 1: and use of the passports by the holders of the
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Speaker 1: passports was within the law and no action would be taken.
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Speaker 1: This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam
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Speaker 1: from the late nineteen fifties to mid nineteen seventies. The
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Speaker 1: individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the
29:24
Speaker 1: investigation into the activity of the Finders Club had become
29:29
Speaker 1: a CIA internal matter. The MPD report had been classified
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Speaker 1: secret and was not available for review. I was advised
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Speaker 1: that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior,
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Speaker 1: and that the FBI Foreign counter Intelligence Division had directed
29:48
Speaker 1: MPD not to advise the FBI Washington Field Office of
29:54
Speaker 1: anything that had transpired in quote, So the Finders RBA
30:00
Speaker 1: protected from on high and the initial arrest of the
30:04
Speaker 1: Finders in Tallahassee went almost completely unnoticed by the media.
30:10
Speaker 1: So did another arrest in that same state in August
30:15
Speaker 1: two thousand. So here we go. The arrested man was
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Speaker 1: Wayne Kamalie, and the charges were operating an online child
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Speaker 1: pornography site. The Los Angeles Times reported that the West
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach home in which Kamalie was arrested, not unlike
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Speaker 1: the Finders van, was filled with so much rotting garbage,
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Speaker 1: trash and catshit that the agents had to borrow oxygen
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Speaker 1: masks and hazardous material suits from the county fire department
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Speaker 1: just to carry out the search. Fucking catshit anyways. Ceased
30:56
Speaker 1: in the raid were numerous videotapes and a computer. But
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Speaker 1: what makes Kamalie's arrest of significance here is that, as
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Speaker 1: the Times reported, it was initiated by police quote investigating
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Speaker 1: Belgian's most notorious pedophile murder case end quote. Mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to take a guess who Komalie is
31:22
Speaker 1: linked to? Well, it seems that Kamalie had close connections
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Speaker 1: to a douche packer named Felix Dconic, a suspect in
31:34
Speaker 1: the kidnapping and molestation of a fourteen year old girl,
31:39
Speaker 1: and Deconic, as it turns out, had direct links to
31:44
Speaker 1: Mark Dutro. Look at that, everyone, It's a full circle moment,
31:49
Speaker 1: don't you just love those? And so here we are.
31:52
Speaker 1: We end up right back where we began with the
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Speaker 1: case of the Belgian beast. How in connection with two
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Speaker 1: other pedophiles that end up in this investigation with the Finders.
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Speaker 1: So the brief Times report closed with these words. Quote.
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Speaker 1: US officials couldn't elaborate on the connections between Deconic and
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Speaker 1: du Troux, but said they were part of the same
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Speaker 1: child pornography, molestation and murder investigation end quote. Oh boy.
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Speaker 1: So it is highly unlikely that anyone will ever revisit
32:37
Speaker 1: the case of Wayne Camalie. Even the La Times article
32:41
Speaker 1: quickly disappeared from the newspapers online archives, and as with
32:46
Speaker 1: so many other cases, the final words of the US
32:49
Speaker 1: Custom Service memorandum on the Finder's investigation will likely provide
32:54
Speaker 1: the epitaph for this case as well. Quote no further
33:01
Speaker 1: information will be available, no further action will be taken
33:06
Speaker 1: in quote. So The Guardian reported in January two thousand
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Speaker 1: and one that INTERPOL, the international police agency, quote, has
33:15
Speaker 1: agreed to set up an electronic library of child sex
33:20
Speaker 1: victims at its headquarters in Lyon, France. In quote, the
33:25
Speaker 1: first images that were to be processed into that database
33:29
Speaker 1: were seven hundred and fifty thousand photos seized by British
33:34
Speaker 1: authorities in the Wonderland raids. In April two thousand and three,
33:38
Speaker 1: Britain's The Registered quote unquote reported that the US Justice
33:43
Speaker 1: Department was setting up an even larger database. Quote. A
33:47
Speaker 1: huge database system designed to find sexually abused children is
33:52
Speaker 1: under development in the US. The US Justice Department's Child
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Speaker 1: Victim Identification program will include a cattalog of thousands of
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Speaker 1: illicit pictures seized from suspects and collected from the web.
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Speaker 1: In quote, which, let's be real, that just makes the
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Speaker 1: Justice Department the owner of the world's largest collection of
34:14
Speaker 1: child pornography. Tell me I'm wrong. And according to an
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Speaker 1: AP report, child pornography investigators in several countries had already
34:25
Speaker 1: contributed images to the database, as had the FBI, Secret Service,
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Speaker 1: Postal Inspection service and exploited children groups. So the goal
34:37
Speaker 1: of the system was to eventually include the most illicit
34:42
Speaker 1: photographs in circulation on the Internet. Well, well, well, that
34:47
Speaker 1: is interesting that they want to compile all these images
34:50
Speaker 1: because they're not fucking doing anything with them. I mean,
34:55
Speaker 1: advanced image recognition software that was utilized in the attempt
34:59
Speaker 1: to match an identify the children in the photographic images
35:03
Speaker 1: was supposed to make it easier to identify and locate
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Speaker 1: sexually abused children. Sure, that's what they were using it for,
35:12
Speaker 1: that I mean, but let's be real. That would be
35:15
Speaker 1: an encouraging development if that was an actual, sincere effort
35:22
Speaker 1: by law enforcement personnel to gather evidence against the child
35:25
Speaker 1: exploitation rings and aid in the physically and emotionally ravaged victims.
35:30
Speaker 1: But as we know, that's not the case. It's more
35:36
Speaker 1: likely that there is a very sinister goal being pursued.
35:40
Speaker 1: And actually, researcher Arlene Teyner, who has spent a considerable
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Speaker 1: amount of time interviewing and corresponding with victims of mind
35:50
Speaker 1: control operations, noted in a magazine article that some of
35:55
Speaker 1: these victims were turned over to military or CIA doctors.
36:00
Speaker 1: I pedophile fathers or other sexually abusive relatives, and CIA
36:06
Speaker 1: officials also blackmailed family members known to produce kittie born
36:10
Speaker 1: in order to gain control of their already abused, in
36:13
Speaker 1: psychologically fragmented children. So it seems to be a fact
36:19
Speaker 1: that all these high profile child pornography raids, which without
36:25
Speaker 1: exception result in relatively few arrests and even fewer prosecutions
36:30
Speaker 1: and convictions, are not intended to punish the victimizers, but
36:34
Speaker 1: to identify and compromise them. And it seems that the
36:40
Speaker 1: databases being compiled would be utilized as something of a
36:45
Speaker 1: recruitment list to identify those persons who have been preconditioned,
36:50
Speaker 1: so to speak, for future mind control operations. Right, that's
36:56
Speaker 1: what they're really up to. But one thing can be
36:59
Speaker 1: stayed with certainty about the thousands of victims of today's
37:03
Speaker 1: child pornography and child prostitution rings. Someday many of them
37:09
Speaker 1: will come forward to tell harrowing stories of their early
37:13
Speaker 1: childhood abuse. They will speak of acts of depravity committed
37:17
Speaker 1: against children that are so heinous as to be almost
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Speaker 1: beyond human comprehension. And yet as difficult as their stories
37:27
Speaker 1: will be to believe, they will be documented by the
37:30
Speaker 1: images stored in this fucking database and in the US
37:35
Speaker 1: Justice Department's computers. But how many of these victims will
37:41
Speaker 1: be believed because they're not going to ever share that
37:46
Speaker 1: evidence with us. That is not why they created the database.
37:54
Speaker 1: This is going to be the end of the Uncle
37:56
Speaker 1: Sam saga. We are actually going to move on to
38:00
Speaker 1: bigger and better things with the next mini series, maybe
38:03
Speaker 1: even take a break from all this child pornography stuff.
38:07
Speaker 1: But it is so important for people to understand what
38:10
Speaker 1: is going on and what has happened in the past,
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Speaker 1: who the Finders Club is, who, who was involved in
38:18
Speaker 1: the Franklin scandal, Like all this stuff is so important.
38:21
Speaker 1: It's so so, so, so so important now more than ever.
38:24
Speaker 1: But this is going to end Uncle Sam, and I
38:28
Speaker 1: think you are going to enjoy the next mini series
38:31
Speaker 1: even more. And I'm in between two names right now,
38:35
Speaker 1: so I don't want to say for sure what it's
38:37
Speaker 1: going to be called, but you'll see it when it
38:38
Speaker 1: comes out. Before we go, there is one very important
38:43
Speaker 1: vital piece of information I need you to learn just
38:46
Speaker 1: as soon as humanly possible. I won't, I won't sob
39:17
Speaker 1: A won't. The wont so bad It is raving, is