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AI in Business Strategy for Human First Leaders ft Landi Jac · King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights

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  I see the human experience as the foundation of everything you
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  know, and, and the backdrop of that in in my personal belief
• 0:07
  system is you, you have a soul and then the soul go, I want to
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  have an experience on planet earth and then that soul comes
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  and it has a human experience in order to express itself.
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  Now I believe that human, which is us has got incredible
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  abilities and incredible power. And I think AI is only an
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  expression of that. And that's why what we is seeing
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  in technology around us, for me, is always a reminder of what we
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  are capable of, that therefore I see the human as the superpower
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  and I see AI in technology only as a way to enhance those
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  superpowers. So if you look at it from that
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  point of view, the one can't be against the other.
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  The one is enhancing and improving the other.
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  So I think, you know, if you are comfortable in your skin, being
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  a human, you can never really be threatened by technology,
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  including I, I. Before we dive back into today's
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  A professional fighter fighting out of Cape Town, South Africa,
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  by way of running away from London, England.
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  Mcwalker Lundy, the CEO of The Cycle of Excellence.
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  Jaw how are you glad I'm. Good, Adibola, what an
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  introduction. It's wonderful to be here with
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  you and your listeners. Wow for for for 30.
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  Seconds right there. You're thinking, oh, I'm a
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  fighter now. You'll never know what I really
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  think, Adibola. So.
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  So some things are left are best left unsaid, you know?
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  Exactly. You can do.
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  Questions here the line. Well, you know, Landy just like
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  London, but Landy left London because she's too beautiful for
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  London. And you know we have a bone to
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  peek with you, Landy. You do.
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  I'm ready. We.
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  Do we do have a boat to peek with you?
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  Anyways, you you're, you're globetrotter, you know, and I
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  just wonder what your passport, your passport must look like.
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  It looks like a circus of Ebola, to be very honest with you.
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  And I don't have one passport. I have two at this stage.
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  At some stage I had five because I had to.
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  Keep on getting. A passport and because of the
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  stamps and it drives you crazy because you travel sometimes and
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  then they actually go for a brand new stamp, a brand new
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  page, and they put the stamp on there.
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  And sometimes I just want to say to them, can't you see there's
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  more space on that page? But I've got a lot of stamps.
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  You can call me a stamp collector.
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  You know it's a global. Scrapbook for stamps.
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  You know, you are a stamp collector and you know, it's,
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  it's, it's interesting. You remind me of that Drake
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  song. She's she's to call me on a cell
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  phone. I wish she needs someone.
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  And, you know, there's a point where he says running out of
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  pages on a cell, on a passport. I've not heard the song but it's
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  exactly that. You should go listen to that
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  song. So you have run out of pages on
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  your passport. And of course, Drake was
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  thinking about. You.
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  It's Drake, of course it's Drake, Yeah.
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  You're very rude because you don't even know the song.
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  All I can say is sorry, sorry. Apologies.
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  You should be apologising to Drake, you know, been around the
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  world, right? Are you able to share like?
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  One unforgettable experience from one of your travels.
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  I have so many unforgettable experiences and I think that's
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  why we travel, you know, So one of the things that always sticks
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  by me is we've got a, our brand is super of excellence, but we
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  have another brand called Young Entrepreneur X Factor.
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  And these are bunch of young teens and tweens that actually
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  pitch their businesses in Malaysia.
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  And then when we go and visit there, you can just imagine, you
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  can just imagine these kids standing on stage and pitching
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  their ideas for the future. And I always find that hugely
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  inspiring because we always judge us in that competition.
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  But it blows my mind when I see that in terms of the younger
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  generations and what they coming up with in terms of
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  entrepreneurship and how they see themselves already as global
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  citizens. So I see myself now as a global
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  citizen. I didn't get schooling as a
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  global citizen, but those kids, they're now getting schooled as
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  global citizens. And I find that hugely
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  inspiring. But if you want to talk about
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  experiences, when I travel, there's hundreds and thousands I
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  can share with you. And that's, that's just
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  wonderful to be able to do that because travel expands your
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  mind, makes your world bigger. Exactly.
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  You know, I tell people travel is a very big part of our
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  education there. There was a guest who who said
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  something about me. She says you are a modern day
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  business philosopher. You know, so for me, one of my
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  philosophies is that human capacity is actually a function
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  of your education, your exposure and your enlightenment.
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  And of course, be part of your education and your exposure is
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  your travel. You know, I do have, I do have
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  an episode, you know, that had a subtitle.
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  You know, think global but act local.
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  Yeah. It's always, yeah, it's always
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  very, very essential to to think global, you know, be a global
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  citizen, think beyond, you know, the the ecosystem of the
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  environment that you're in. And technology has actually
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  helped to make the world, you know, a global village.
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  So there's there is no excuse for you not to not not to think
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  global, thinking global. You have actually had that
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  privilege to work in over 50 countries, so what's 1 universal
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  business principle that you have seen succeed everywhere
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  regardless of the race and demographics and culture?
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  At Emolla, relationships, relationships that you have with
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  people and I think so many people, you know, I'm a big fan
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  of tech. I'm a Gemini so you know this AI
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  named after us so I should be a very big fan of tech.
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  I'm just good. Google Gemini.
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  I'm a brother. Who's Gemini?
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  What, what, what? What's your birthday?
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  20th of June, 20th of June. So I'm like, wow, you're.
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  Getting close in stock. I know in Chinese culture, I'm a
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  snake, so I'm actually a Gemini fire snake, So I'm really big on
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  technology. But I can tell you doesn't
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  matter where you go, what culture, what country, it's the
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  relationships you have with people that really makes a
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  difference. And I think, you know, there's
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  such a debate going on at the moment, AI versus human and
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  which one is most important. And it's my honest belief that
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  if the two could work together and you'll know, we'll hit the
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  sweet spot because, you know, if you can combine the intelligence
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  of AI and the technology out there, as you would know, with
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  the relationships you have with people that you continuously
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  build, those people are always the most successful people.
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  The ones who harness bonds and relationships with people and
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  has the ability to get other people to trust them as an
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  expert in their field. And they combine it with
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  technology and innovation, which are tools in order to not only
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  build business, but to, you know, continue your reach in
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  terms of having more relationships with people find
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  regardless of countries or cultures, that's the same.
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  In fact, the more you travel, the more you don't see
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  differences anymore. You start seeing more
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  similarities. And I think that's one of the
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  reasons we travel. You know, me and Mike, my
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  husband says doesn't matter what culture or country or race you
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  encounter or background or ethnicity, most people we come
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  across want three things. They want to have love, They
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  want to have money, and they struggle to trust.
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  Same across the world. Yeah.
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  Interesting stuff you know are episode 84 of my podcast is
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  actually titled. Humans.
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  Humans first. AI Next How to lead adapter and
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  thrive in the age of intelligence.
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  I love that. Humans first, AI next.
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  I love that. You know, I I love that you are
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  touching. On, you know, AI, it's a topic
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  that is very, very, very dear to my heart.
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  You know, I love AI. I see that a lot of people have
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  misconceptions about AI. Right from me.
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  My philosophy is that AI has come to stay.
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  AI is the greatest tool that has been put in the hands of humans.
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  Yeah. And AI is a tsunami.
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  Yeah, it's a tsunami. It's either you you go with the
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  flow or. The flow takes you a longer.
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  Yeah, I. Agree there.
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  There's no middle point, you know?
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  But what's? Your quick take, you know AI and
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  how it is impacting the global business landscape and what are
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  the possibilities that we can achieve with the assistance of
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  AI? Yeah, good question, Adimola.
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  I, I see human, the human experience, and you might enjoy
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  this as a philosopher, a thick philosopher, I see the human
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  experience as the foundation of everything.
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  And you know, and, and the backdrop of that in, in my
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  personal belief system is you, you have a soul.
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  And then the soul go, I want to have an experience on planet
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  Earth, and then that soul comes and it has a human experience in
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  order to express itself. Now, I believe that human, which
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  is US, has got incredible abilities and incredible power.
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  And I think AI is only an expression of that.
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  And that's why what we're seeing in technology around us, for me,
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  is always a reminder of what we are capable of, That therefore I
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  see the human as the superpower, and I see AI in technology only
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  as a way to enhance those superpowers.
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  So if you look at it from that point of view, the one can't be
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  against the other. The one is enhancing and
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  improving the other. So I think, you know, if you are
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  comfortable in your skin being a human, you can never really be
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  threatened by technology, including AI.
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  And, you know, look at the world at the moment.
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  Look at us on our phones, look at us on our computers.
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  Did we not have the same level of resistance to change back
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  then? So Can you imagine someone
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  taking your phone and your computer and everything away
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  from you? Now go, you know, Can you
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  imagine someone taking a Wi-Fi away from us?
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  So I'll tell you this quick story.
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  You know, me and my husband has just finished a corporate stint
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  where we did some keynotes on a roadshow for a corporate
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  financial services company. And they had my husband up first
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  in his talks. And he was talking about
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  conscious leadership, which is a topic that's very close to his
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  heart. And I was talking about energy
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  and peak performance. And you know how we can actually
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  become the best version of ourselves.
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  And then we were followed by a guy, Hein Wagner, who's blind
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  since birth. And, and you know, he blew my
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  mind as the third keynote speaker in this roadshow because
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  he was basically saying to the audience, look, people, I've
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  been using AI for me just as a blind person.
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  In fact, if it wasn't for AI as a blind person, there's so many
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  experiences and communication opportunities and business and
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  new generation that I wouldn't have been able to do.
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  And he's, he shared with us with the audience that there's now an
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  AI functionality out that allows him for the first time as a
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  blind person, to take his phone and take a picture of a piece of
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  art. And then this tells him, this is
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  the piece of art in front of you.
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  This is who wrote it. This is the texture.
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  This is the philosophy. This is what the artist is all
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  about. This is a story and that blew my
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  mind. I thought, wow, here we're going
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  on, we're sitting in a debate, AI or not AI, There's people
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  with disabilities, there's people, you know, with with all
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  sorts of things that's been using it for ages.
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  And in many respects, I think sometimes we're a little bit
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  behind. And can't you call the
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  algorithms on your mobile phone AI anyway?
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  You know, the person is using with a pacemaker and walking
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  with a pacemaker in their heart. Is that not AI anyway?
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  And I also think, you know, if you if you in a position where
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  nothing is threatening you, then of course you can say, oh, I
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  don't need AI, I'm a human, blah, blah, blah.
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  But what if the day come when you need an organ and AI is
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  going to print that organ for you?
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  Would you still be that much against AI or would you go
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  actually, I am now really open to seeing what this can do for
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  us. So, you know, you have a podcast
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  that is about what AI can do in the health industry.
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  And I really want to encourage your, your listeners to go check
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  that one out, you know, because. Thank you.
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  Thank you for the plug. I'm.
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  Not trying to before AI or against AI, I'm just saying, you
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  know, maybe we have been living with AI for quite some time,
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  many people has and why did we look at AI as something that
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  enhances the human experience and the creative proceeds as
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  opposed to say it's human versus AI or you know, robot or
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  whatever. Never.
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  It's never human versus AI, but I think a lot of those guys who
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  are the proponents or anti AI people, I guess they've seen too
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  many sci-fi movies. Maybe AAI comes up with a
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  revolution to destroy the world and to destroy the human race.
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  And let's be, you know, fair. Maybe maybe they have a point.
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  You know, maybe there is intelligence in robotics that
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  can, you know, get to the point. I wouldn't say get to the point
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  where it precedes human intelligence because it's
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  already preceded human intelligence.
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  I think for the first time in history, artificial intelligence
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  is proceeding a human intelligence to the point where
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  we no longer going to be the one giving instructions.
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  It can now give us instructions. So maybe some of you, you know,
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  scaremongers or maybe some of the people listening here today
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  have a point. I think is, you know, that the
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  point is we don't know. We have to be open to to see
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  what happens and I guess take the consequences of our actions.
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  Are you talking about the point? But I'll ask you what is the
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  point in a pointless point? But it's it's way above my my
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  grade so so. You just keep driving to.
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  Nowhere like three or two complete.
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  What is the point in a pointless point?
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  It's just clear you know why. It's when you can collaborate.
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  Yeah, well, I like that. That's why I hate if we can
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  collaborate, right? And I think that is that is the
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  point here. So why would we be stuck in this
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  fights between the human experience and AI as an enhancer
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  if we can't much rather use our time and see how these things
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  can hold hands and bring good into the world?
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  You said to me previously, Arimola, that you, you're a
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  conscious person, you you're in business, but you would you see
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  yourself as an enlightened leader?
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  So why are we not having these conversations?
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  Why are we having conversations about who's wrong and is right?
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  Why don't we look at collaboration and opportunities
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  to make the world a better place?
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  Human and AI? Well, you went with the help of
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  AI, right? The humans collaborating with AI
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  and I can say for free I'm very proud to say that the point at
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  which I started, you know using AI, you know in the production
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  process of this broadcast you know I did experience
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  significant growth on the forecast we're currently on
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  10,000 plus subscribers on YouTube and.
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  Congratulations. Thank you very much.
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  And we are growing. We are growing.
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  We are. We're going for bigger
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  milestones and AI has actually been a very, very instrumental
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  part of the growth. So I am a very, very big
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  proponent of the use of AI for scaling up, for growth, for
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  learning. You know, AI has endless
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  possibilities. Trust me and I.
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  Want to believe? And I encourage everyone you
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  know, yeah, under the impact of my voice to please, if you were
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  anti AI before, just, you know, have a rethink.
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  Try it a little bit. Try it a little bit, yeah.
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  Why can't you collaborate? Exactly.
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  You see the growth. Absolutely.
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  Adam Muller, Just to give your listeners an idea.
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  I mean, you know, as a person is on the road all the time, you,
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  you really have to watch what you eat and the lifestyle you
• 19:43
  live because you will just get super unhealthy.
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  Because if you're on the road all the time, you, you
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  constantly tell yourself, you know, you only live once and
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  you're only this country once and you only have this
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  experience once. So you just become completely
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  undisciplined and, and hedonistic, right?
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  So you just try everything and eat of it.
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  So for years I've been trying to find this formula on the road
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  for me, what will work for my health and for my body weight
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  and for my height and for the foods I prefer.
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  And then? Can you just make the formula
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  more complex by saying I'm not like other people who can
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  prepare food, you know, at home I'm in restaurants all the time,
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  winning and dining people. So I've been on Googling,
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  Googling all the time, Googling what will be the best solution.
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  And literally like this is an 8 year process of Googling,
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  Googling and finding a formula. And literally in the last few
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  weeks, because of our friend AI, you know, I'm able to go now to
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  AI and say, look my buddy, because it is my buddy, right?
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  It's my best buddy at the moment.
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  I can say to AI, please come up with a formula for a female
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  who's this age, who's this high to weigh this much, who's on the
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  road, all the. Time.
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  Once giving us really customised solutions to our problems.
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  So and again, you know, speaking not for against these people
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  who's going to be listening to die inside landing, but there's
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  a classic example of how it's going to cost people their jobs.
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  Yes, think it's going to cost millions of people their jobs
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  because of the quality of the solutions that this is going to
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  provide. But because of that, I also
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  think it's going to create millions of jobs.
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  Yeah, new opportunities, those of guests on this broadcast who
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  said you're not going to leave your job to AI, you're going to
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  leave your job to your colleague who is good at utilising AI.
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  Wow, isn't that a really good point?
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  And I mean what? What does it mean to be good at
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  utilising AI? In my personal experience over
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  the past few months, the ability to ask quality questions, the
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  ability to breathe, I think is just going to put you a cut
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  above the wrist, the ability to prompt.
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  That's what I was waiting. For, you know, because of word
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  the prompt, you know garbage. In garbage.
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  Out exactly the why you gonna? Prompt.
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  Don't worry. Quality of your life is going to
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  come down to the way the quality of you prompting AI.
• 22:05
  There you go. That's.
• 22:07
  What it's the prompt. So someone, somebody was
• 22:10
  attacking me saying, oh, you like using AIT?
• 22:13
  March, you know, using your human.
• 22:15
  Brain blah blah blah Excuse me, I am a.
• 22:17
  Gifted individual you know I did my IQ test I'm in the one 30s so
• 22:23
  naturally gifted, you know so I. You've got.
• 22:26
  A prom. You.
• 22:27
  Can so the only guys ahead of me are the geniuses and good luck.
• 22:33
  You know. Yeah.
• 22:35
  Albert Einstein and Co, You know, I'm just, you know, a
• 22:38
  head's breath below you guys. But I'm cool.
• 22:40
  I'm cool in my region so. Well, you can prompt, right?
• 22:43
  You have the ability to really ask quality questions.
• 22:45
  And I think if you have an imagination, and a lot of people
• 22:47
  think it's going to take our imagination away.
• 22:51
  No, no, no. No, Take your imagination and
• 22:54
  prompt. So imagination plus prompting.
• 22:57
  Can you imagine Adimola? What's going to come out of?
• 23:01
  It exactly. You know AI is used to optimise
• 23:05
  your solutions, right? Yeah.
• 23:07
  Absolutely. The optimality is dependent on
• 23:11
  the human intelligence that is training that artificial
• 23:15
  intelligence. So we are in the age and time
• 23:19
  where we have the height of artificial intelligence.
• 23:22
  But you know the paradox. We are also in the age of time,
• 23:25
  of the height of human foolishness.
• 23:28
  Yeah. There's a lot of, unfortunately.
• 23:31
  Yeah. You know, there's a lot of
• 23:34
  information out there, but check out the kind of stupid and
• 23:37
  foolish and I don't know, very lame questions that people ask
• 23:42
  even you on a day-to-day basis. And you'd be like, you know what
• 23:46
  I do? I'm like, OK, excuse me, Do you
• 23:48
  have a phone? They say yes.
• 23:50
  Is it a smartphone? Yes.
• 23:51
  Have you been banned from Google?
• 23:53
  They say no. Have you been banned from user
• 23:55
  ChatGPT? I say, you know what?
• 23:56
  Just take your phone. Just type.
• 23:58
  Type that thing inside type it. Thank you, you got an answer.
• 24:01
  I know you're. Like or anything I.
• 24:05
  Mean like, why are you like this?
• 24:06
  Excuse me? Like you should use technology
• 24:08
  you know. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:09
  But I think, you know, people will catch up.
• 24:12
  Remember, it took people years to catch up, you know, with with
• 24:17
  computers, then it was called computers, then it was laptops,
• 24:20
  then it was mobile technology. I mean, I remember the days when
• 24:24
  we all were working on calculators and then suddenly we
• 24:26
  were going from the calculator to the Excel sheet and we were
• 24:30
  freaked out. Everyone was freaked out.
• 24:32
  We thought we were going to be so we're going to be so dumbed
• 24:34
  down or whatever. So, so I just think this is
• 24:37
  another one of those quantum leaps, but I think this is quite
• 24:40
  a big one. You know, it's quite
• 24:43
  interesting. I'm a millennial, you know.
• 24:46
  Right. Yeah.
• 24:47
  I'm a billionaire and I clocked 33 April.
• 24:53
  And I think back, I look at the technological evolution that
• 24:57
  I've experienced in my in my lifetime.
• 25:00
  You know, I feel like, I feel like I am old, but not too old.
• 25:04
  And I feel like I'm young but not too young.
• 25:05
  Yeah. You really?
• 25:06
  Sort of want to bring onto you. Yeah, I.
• 25:09
  You know, I was talking between the Gen ZS and you know.
• 25:11
  Yeah, the Generation X and there's that generation of war
• 25:16
  going on between the Generation X and the Gen ZS because, you
• 25:19
  know, the Gen ZS are more, you know, tech pro, but the Gen XS
• 25:25
  are, you know, not very, not very tech savvy and.
• 25:31
  We as millennials. Are now in between that and
• 25:34
  diplomats between the generation X, you know?
• 25:36
  You're like the uncles of the of the generation to balance the
• 25:43
  two generations. That makes you facilitators,
• 25:46
  you're actually facilitators of this process, which is
• 25:49
  extraordinary to be part of that, absolutely extraordinary
• 25:52
  to be part of that. And so it's going to be
• 25:54
  interesting how it applies to like you say the different
• 25:57
  generations. But you know, I have to say,
• 26:00
  I've met, I've met as many Gen XS who's not for tech as they
• 26:07
  are for tech. And I've met as many millennials
• 26:10
  who are really big on tech, but millennials who also is going,
• 26:15
  we don't want this. We don't want this with our
• 26:16
  children. We want more of organic
• 26:18
  experience. I want to be off the grid,
• 26:20
  whatever. So this it's, it's difficult to
• 26:23
  generalise at the moment in terms of, you know, who's for
• 26:27
  and who's against. I think it's becoming such a
• 26:29
  personal thing. Like I mentioned, the guy was
• 26:31
  born from from birth. You know, he's, he's if, if I'm
• 26:36
  correct, probably either between X or he's between the X and the
• 26:39
  boomer. And I mean, he's been so savvy
• 26:42
  on AI technology because he had to.
• 26:45
  And then, you know, he's a mother.
• 26:47
  Of invention. Many times I walk now into cafes
• 26:51
  all across the world owned by millennials, and then you go,
• 26:54
  hey, can I get the Wi-Fi code? And then they go, no, we don't
• 26:57
  do. We don't do yeah, human
• 27:01
  conversations. Then I'm like, I really need my
• 27:04
  wife, my. What is what is your calendar?
• 27:07
  Are you in 1992? Yeah, well.
• 27:10
  I think we have to embrace both. I think we have to embrace both.
• 27:14
  I think it's like, you know, these different perspectives
• 27:17
  coming together around the table, having a conversation
• 27:20
  that's going to make the sweet spot pop.
• 27:24
  That's where the beauty is going to lie.
• 27:25
  So yeah, everyone else, you know, that's what we're all
• 27:27
  trying to do is, yeah, everyone up.
• 27:29
  You know, this organisation, I'm not sure if you're aware of
• 27:31
  them. It's called the Human Library.
• 27:34
  I've not been involved with them myself, but I really want.
• 27:37
  It seems like you're reading my mind because I was going to tell
• 27:39
  you about how I used to use the library, you know, the manual
• 27:44
  searches, you know, and now we now have optimised, you know,
• 27:48
  search engine optimization. Why are?
• 27:51
  You. But I can read mine.
• 27:53
  That's what my community will tell you, so beware.
• 27:56
  But you know those. Landy Landy reading of Mind in
• 27:59
  London. I know the human library bring
• 28:02
  these different perspectives together and prompt here we go
• 28:06
  again, a conversation. So I'm I've been sitting on the
• 28:10
  sideline watching this AI human conversation and thoroughly
• 28:13
  enjoy it because there's valid points in each sides of the
• 28:15
  corner. That's with everything, right?
• 28:20
  Interested. Yeah, as with everything in life
• 28:22
  and, of course, talking on consciousness, right, Your
• 28:25
  circle of Accidents club actually focuses heavily,
• 28:28
  heavily on conscious leadership. And you say it's something that
• 28:32
  is very close to the heart of your husband, right.
• 28:35
  So can't you quickly elaborate on what conscious leadership
• 28:39
  means to you and why it is crucial?
• 28:41
  For it's a premiers you know today like myself and yourself?
• 28:48
  Well, Adimola, we believe that and this is a slogan we use to
• 28:52
  explain conscious leadership. We believe that making a
• 28:56
  difference is as important as making a profit.
• 28:59
  You know, in entrepreneurship, the focus is really on on making
• 29:03
  money. And I think there there's a lot
• 29:04
  of people, especially in the spiritual space would say, you
• 29:07
  know, and the money's not important, but the money is
• 29:10
  important, right? I mean, you need decision making
• 29:12
  power. And I do believe if the money
• 29:15
  wasn't important, then you should have just remained the
• 29:18
  spirit, you know, because part of the human experience is
• 29:21
  coming here and learning what it means to be a human being.
• 29:23
  And I think one of the toughest lessons is, you know, learning
• 29:28
  who you are and having that express in a company, in a brand
• 29:32
  and ultimately become profitable.
• 29:33
  But then with that, you, you also want to have meaning in
• 29:37
  your life and you want to have purpose.
• 29:39
  And in US working with premium entrepreneurs around the world,
• 29:43
  many times they come to us because they're making a lot of
• 29:46
  money and the profit is there, but they have lost their purpose
• 29:49
  and they don't understand why they're here.
• 29:51
  Others would come and say, look, I have a purpose, but I'm still
• 29:55
  not making enough money. And I want to scale and you
• 29:57
  know, I want to make a lot of money and I want to scale
• 30:00
  because I want to bring my message out.
• 30:02
  So it really seems like these two work together, making a
• 30:05
  profit and making a difference. So for us, a conscious leader,
• 30:09
  as a person who's holistic in their approach, they're more of
• 30:12
  an open minded entrepreneur. They accept responsibility for
• 30:16
  making money and for doing it in a responsible way.
• 30:20
  In other words, not just have a business that's built around
• 30:23
  you, but something that can scale and have a legacy, but
• 30:26
  also want to leave the world a better place when they die one
• 30:29
  day. And believe it or not, there's a
• 30:31
  lot of people who actually believe they're immortal and
• 30:33
  they're not going to die. But when they die one day that
• 30:36
  either the business can continue or the message can continue and
• 30:39
  that they've left the legacy. They maybe, you know, they, they
• 30:42
  helped the planet to be a better place.
• 30:45
  Maybe their family is a better unit because of them.
• 30:48
  Maybe their community is a better place because of them.
• 30:50
  And so we believe in that holistic approach to build
• 30:53
  business as an entrepreneur with the right business formulas
• 30:56
  that's tried and tested, but also to have a mindset that is
• 31:01
  healthy and that that helps you to show up as the best version
• 31:05
  of yourself and to consider spirituality, whatever that
• 31:09
  means for you. You know, with a spirituality
• 31:12
  view is a God or universe or astrology or the elements or you
• 31:16
  know what, whatever, you know, maybe it's ancestral view, maybe
• 31:20
  it's about taking your your ancestral line forward.
• 31:23
  Maybe it's for you sitting in church and being religious.
• 31:26
  It doesn't really matter to us, but the fact is that you
• 31:28
  consider business and profit next to a mindset at that things
• 31:37
  of potential and possibility and is inclusive plus making a
• 31:42
  difference on this planet and and spirituality and the unknown
• 31:45
  or whatever that means to you. Well, you are trespassing into
• 31:50
  my garden and good. Yeah, my my philosophical
• 31:54
  garden. I think a few episodes ago I
• 31:57
  disclosed a new philosophy, philosophical theory that, you
• 32:02
  know, I propounded and I said in order to be a well-rounded
• 32:05
  person. And this is born out of the fact
• 32:09
  that I have actually had the privilege to speak with
• 32:13
  successful people across all of the continents in the world.
• 32:19
  And I keep sit back to ask myself, what is a common
• 32:23
  denominator? What makes these people
• 32:25
  successful? Beautiful.
• 32:27
  What did you find? It it came to one word, you
• 32:30
  know, do you do you want to know what that word is?
• 32:33
  Fitness. And fitness has fitness, You
• 32:39
  know, you know it. It actually has, you know, a
• 32:43
  quadruple side to it. It has a quadrant.
• 32:46
  You have to be spiritually fit, you have to be mentally fit, you
• 32:52
  have to be physically fit and you have to be financially fit.
• 32:58
  There you go then. You've got a blueprint for life,
• 33:00
  right? Almost like the medicine wheel
• 33:02
  of the comments. So tell me, tell me, what do you
• 33:05
  think? About that, because you've
• 33:07
  actually spoken to two different aspects of the contract.
• 33:11
  Yeah, we, we actually, we, we teach very similar to what you
• 33:15
  did there. We talk about mental fitness, we
• 33:18
  talk about physical fitness, we talk about emotional fitness and
• 33:22
  spiritual fitness. The financial fitness for us
• 33:25
  lies in the same quadrant and the physical fitness because
• 33:28
  it's material things. But we are very values aligned
• 33:32
  and very much on the same page. And you know, I always say to
• 33:34
  people, if you feel you're stuck or you don't know where to
• 33:37
  develop yourself, person, you're professional.
• 33:39
  Just go back to that blueprint that you so beautifully put out
• 33:42
  there for people and school yourself.
• 33:45
  You know, school yourself in your physical fitness or if you
• 33:48
  want to call it financial fitness and ask, be honest with
• 33:50
  yourself and say, what am I scoring here?
• 33:52
  Am I two out of 10? AM I 11 out of 10?
• 33:55
  You know you've arrived, go to your mental fitness score
• 33:59
  yourself, AM I5 out of 10, AM I 6 out of 10 and just get a
• 34:03
  snapshot with with those quadrants and look at where you
• 34:07
  are. And then you, you know where to
• 34:08
  actually focus your attention on.
• 34:10
  But I think what's difficult for people at the moment is that
• 34:13
  can't focus. Our entrepreneurs, our listeners
• 34:16
  will identify. It's difficult to focus because
• 34:18
  we're getting distracted. We're getting distracted by
• 34:22
  Instagram, we're getting distracted by grog.
• 34:26
  We're getting the scrap, the scrap, you know, all these
• 34:29
  things, all these theories and all these debates and all these
• 34:33
  geopolitical things that's going on.
• 34:35
  And we're getting so distracted that we forget to develop
• 34:38
  ourselves in those four quadrants.
• 34:40
  And I think that's where people are struggling at the moment.
• 34:44
  Balance is essential and you know that's.
• 34:47
  Why? Yeah, right from time.
• 34:48
  To see you should take a balanced diet.
• 34:52
  Exactly. We should be taking a balanced
• 34:53
  diet. Yeah.
• 34:54
  But balanced diet is also not just what you eat, but it's also
• 34:59
  how much fun you having, how hard you work, you know, whether
• 35:02
  you're on AI all the time or whether you form in bonds with
• 35:05
  people all the time. It's it's, I think it's a story
• 35:07
  of the human life. It's the story of business.
• 35:10
  It's the story of everything. It's the story of our psychology
• 35:13
  is to try and find balance and all these options that's
• 35:16
  available to us at the moment. Well, for, for you how, how do
• 35:21
  you get it achieve that, you know, violence and avoid burnout
• 35:25
  because burnout is a very, very serious issue.
• 35:30
  And if you achieve that balance and you're able to avoid
• 35:34
  burnout, you're able to continuously perform at your
• 35:38
  peak. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:40
  What you what? What's What's the secret?
• 35:43
  I'm going to give you a very, very, very boring answer.
• 35:47
  It's a boring answer. I.
• 35:49
  Love boring answers. It's a boring.
• 35:53
  You like structure and systems, right?
• 35:56
  So this is a boring. This is the answer is rules.
• 36:01
  You have to put rules in your life and rules that fit you.
• 36:05
  So one of the rules I have to avoid burnout, especially given
• 36:09
  that we all over the show living out of suitcases in airports.
• 36:13
  You know, we can land in the country and then suddenly have
• 36:16
  three events on the same day or three meetings on the same day
• 36:19
  or whatever. So we have to have rules because
• 36:23
  we live such a freedom lifestyle.
• 36:25
  We have to have ten time more rules in our lives than other
• 36:29
  people, otherwise we'll be fat and unhappy very, very quickly
• 36:33
  like that, right? It happens overnight.
• 36:35
  You drop the ball and it happens overnight.
• 36:37
  And drop the ball. You drop the ball.
• 36:40
  So one of the rules, one of the rules, exactly 1 of the rules we
• 36:44
  have is that we work from Monday to Thursday like dogs, right?
• 36:51
  We get up early, we work hard, we have many meetings, We have
• 36:56
  lots of activity. We pack it in there, let me tell
• 37:00
  you. But then we do not necessarily
• 37:02
  work with clients on a Friday, Saturday and Sundays.
• 37:07
  Maybe on a Friday we'll work on our business, maybe we'll do
• 37:11
  some strategy, maybe me and Mike will go and sit in hotel.
• 37:14
  We like to sit in five star hotels at the very top where we
• 37:18
  have a vision, a bigger vision, and we may have our personal
• 37:21
  meeting or we are writers, both of us.
• 37:24
  So we may write on a Friday, whatever, but no client can
• 37:28
  access us on a Friday. And then we just don't work on
• 37:32
  weekends. Come Ally Water, we don't do it.
• 37:35
  Occasionally we run events and then we'll have an event on a
• 37:38
  weekend. But when we had an event on a
• 37:40
  weekend, we have to take the Monday and the Tuesday off to
• 37:43
  make up for that. So we've put those rules in our
• 37:46
  lives. One of the big things that got
• 37:48
  me to burn out many moons ago, it was e-mail.
• 37:52
  I was working for a corporate way before I was a entrepreneur,
• 37:56
  and we received those days. 500 emails a day.
• 37:59
  Not spam emails, not like automated emails, 500 requests a
• 38:05
  day. And we couldn't reach our goals
• 38:07
  in the department I was working for because of answering emails.
• 38:11
  And I'll never forget it. I worked for this woman and she
• 38:14
  came into the department and she was already going, why are your
• 38:17
  goals not reached and what's going on?
• 38:19
  And we all like because we working on emails all the time,
• 38:22
  we don't get any time for for anything else.
• 38:25
  And she said what emails? And I said we have 500 emails.
• 38:28
  So I alone that I have to answer.
• 38:31
  And she was like show me. And she came around my computer
• 38:34
  and she was leaning over my shoulder and she looked at all
• 38:37
  my emails and she went edit, select all, delete.
• 38:43
  She deleted all my emails of the day.
• 38:45
  And I nearly freaked out anymore.
• 38:47
  I was like, what have you just done?
• 38:49
  And she said to me, here's the moment that changed my life.
• 38:52
  She said to me if it's urgent, they'll call you or text.
• 38:55
  Exactly, exactly. That is what I always say, You
• 38:58
  know, like I've said this on this podcast.
• 39:01
  Before this is my phone. My phone is permanently on do
• 39:04
  not disturb and I unapologetic about it.
• 39:08
  But it's important you'll. Call me more than once.
• 39:11
  Right. There's a lot.
• 39:12
  Of notifications, there are a lot of what?
• 39:15
  You know, we tend to confuse, you know, urgent, important.
• 39:20
  Something. Can be important but not urgent.
• 39:22
  If it's urgent, you need to do it now.
• 39:24
  If it's important, it means you need to do it at some point.
• 39:27
  So if it's so urgent and important, you know, do it now.
• 39:30
  If it's important but not urgent, you can delay it, right?
• 39:35
  If it's not important and it's not urgent, just ignore it.
• 39:38
  You know, you just need to learn.
• 39:40
  How? To do that right there.
• 39:43
  And you know, after that experience, because I was
• 39:45
  sitting there shocked, but you could literally, yeah.
• 39:47
  My narrow pathways, my brain going, oh, it's, it's
• 39:50
  readjusting itself. And since then, I've been off
• 39:54
  e-mail. So I've been off e-mail for 10
• 39:56
  years now. I use e-mail only to register
• 39:59
  for stuff. You know, and to create a
• 40:02
  profile, but I have not used e-mail for communication for 10
• 40:06
  years. I basically communicate with all
• 40:08
  my clients via WhatsApp. You know, I have clients all
• 40:13
  over the world. We, we do WhatsApp calls and we
• 40:16
  WhatsApp each other back and forth.
• 40:17
  And you can upload a lot of documents in WhatsApp.
• 40:20
  And if it's really big documents, then I use it with
• 40:22
  Dropbox, you know, and so or you know, any other file sharing
• 40:26
  software and it's worked for me. Absolutely.
• 40:30
  You know, a lot of people tend to react, not respond, right.
• 40:36
  And when you are in that reaction mode, he feels like
• 40:40
  people are stealing your time. So you always need to be in
• 40:44
  control of your time. And of course, you know,
• 40:46
  identify items that are important, urgent and know how
• 40:50
  to deal with them accordingly. Back to you.
• 40:53
  You, you talk about playing a bigger game, you know, which
• 40:56
  could you share? Like that transformative moment
• 40:59
  in which your life was propelled into a bigger playing field.
• 41:05
  You know, the more love playing a bigger game is I don't think
• 41:08
  an action plan or a task or even an ambition.
• 41:14
  I think playing a bit of game is a feeling that arises in you.
• 41:18
  And previously we spoke about Africa and how proud we to be
• 41:23
  African and how Africa is rising.
• 41:26
  About African heritage. African heritage I'm born in
• 41:30
  Africa for the listeners, So if you may be looking at me and
• 41:33
  you're a bit confused and. You speak African.
• 41:38
  Exactly how old is it? I'm born in South Africa, so I
• 41:42
  identify as an African. There's no other country or
• 41:46
  continent was born in. But so for me, playing a bigger
• 41:50
  game is a feeling that starts to rise in a person.
• 41:54
  And a lot of our premium clients approach us for that reason
• 41:58
  where they feel that they, that they are meant for more.
• 42:03
  They feel that they mean to achieve more.
• 42:06
  They feel there's something in them that's itching and it needs
• 42:10
  to be scratched. And that something can be, look,
• 42:14
  I, my business has to be so much bigger because my message needs
• 42:19
  to reach so many more people. Or there's maybe a remembrance
• 42:23
  that, you know, I came to this planet because I was supposed to
• 42:26
  invent something that's going to help a lot of people.
• 42:29
  Or it's a feeling of stuckness. It's a feeling that I'm no
• 42:33
  longer playing a bigger game. I'm stuck in a chapter and I
• 42:37
  need to get out of this chapter come hella high water, you know?
• 42:41
  So therefore, for US, playing a bigger game is not just about
• 42:46
  business. Business many times come into
• 42:48
  the equation because entrepreneurs, many of them want
• 42:52
  to play a bigger game in business.
• 42:53
  But when you dig deeper, you find is you find out that they
• 42:57
  want to play a bigger game in business because there's another
• 43:00
  area that they feel they need to move to the next level.
• 43:03
  Maybe they want to become a leader in their field.
• 43:05
  Maybe they see something that's completely unjust in their
• 43:08
  community and they want to set it right and they want to maybe
• 43:12
  fight for justice or they want to, you know, they see they,
• 43:16
  they, their parents is getting older and they see that their
• 43:19
  parents can't afford to retire and they want to play a bigger
• 43:22
  game to help them in to honour them.
• 43:25
  You know, all they see that, you know, there's people who's got
• 43:30
  no legs and you know, they, they don't have opportunities because
• 43:34
  of that. And they were, they were
• 43:36
  inventor at heart and they want to develop something day and
• 43:39
  night they sit and want to develop something that's going
• 43:41
  to make this person be able to stand up and be independent
• 43:44
  again. And we have so many success
• 43:46
  stories with our clients of people who want to play a bigger
• 43:49
  game. They want to play a bigger game
• 43:51
  because they're Olympian and they want to do better.
• 43:54
  They want to play a bigger game because they're an international
• 43:56
  speaker. And now they they want to become
• 43:58
  the president of the Global Speaker Federation.
• 44:01
  It's a person who want to focus on people who don't have their
• 44:04
  voice and develop a coaching product or package and that's
• 44:07
  going to be their bigger game. It's a person who have developed
• 44:11
  a supplementation that they believe is going to change
• 44:13
  everyone's life. So those are the type of player
• 44:16
  bigger game. It's a it's a person who has a
• 44:19
  business but feel that not being a very good partner or their
• 44:23
  relationship with people has always failed and they want to
• 44:25
  understand how they can be the best version of themselves.
• 44:28
  It's play a bigger game is so many things, but it's a feeling
• 44:32
  for people and they approach us because that feeling is driving
• 44:35
  them literally inside. So basically it's about
• 44:40
  unlocking the next level or higher dimension in a specific
• 44:45
  area of your life where you feel you're unwanted interested.
• 44:50
  And we facilitate that process. We don't tell people this is how
• 44:54
  you do it. Of course, we've got a lot of
• 44:56
  business formulas tried and tested.
• 44:58
  I mean, we've ran so many business masterminds from all
• 45:01
  over the world where we ask entrepreneurs, what's your
• 45:03
  problems? And then we come up with
• 45:05
  solutions and duplicate those. So we have the business
• 45:08
  formulas, We have these formulas that will make people more
• 45:11
  successful and help them scale their businesses and be more
• 45:14
  profitable. But many times that's only the
• 45:17
  start of the process. That is only the start of the
• 45:20
  process of facilitating. But why are you really doing
• 45:25
  this? You know, in what way is your
• 45:27
  business really an expression of who you are and what did you
• 45:30
  really come to do? Yeah.
• 45:32
  And what is your message and what is your legacy?
• 45:34
  So it's the combination of those things that I think make a
• 45:37
  person go boom. Interesting.
• 45:41
  So from your experience, you're actually interacted and
• 45:46
  observed, you know, of business leaders?
• 45:49
  Yeah. What do you think separates the
• 45:51
  good from the great when it comes to leadership?
• 45:54
  Lifelong student, ability to learn.
• 45:58
  I think the leader who think they've arrived, they've reached
• 46:01
  a glass ceiling. So you know that they're at a
• 46:04
  point, it's sad to witness, actually.
• 46:07
  They're at a point where they think they can't be tutored
• 46:10
  anymore. They can't learn anything else.
• 46:13
  They might think because of their age, you know, no one can
• 46:17
  teach them anything anymore, especially a younger person.
• 46:20
  Maybe they think because of a certain material gain that
• 46:24
  they've now reached a point where no one can actually expose
• 46:29
  them. And I think that's the word for
• 46:31
  me, lifelong learning, which is something that I really believe
• 46:34
  in. That's why I travel.
• 46:35
  I travel because the more I find out, the less I know.
• 46:38
  The more I travel, the more cultures, the more I get, the
• 46:40
  more I realised, look, Lundy Jack, you know nothing, You know
• 46:43
  nothing, right? And and we.
• 46:45
  Find nothing, Jon Snow. Nothing.
• 46:47
  I don't know. You you're peeping into another
• 46:50
  episode. I'm.
• 46:51
  Telling you. I said, I said I, I said the
• 46:54
  more you know. The more you get to know that
• 46:57
  you don't know. Yeah, that's true.
• 46:59
  The more I. Down the rabbit hole.
• 47:01
  And that's why I'm. A.
• 47:03
  Proud lifelong student. There, that's the thing and that
• 47:06
  that's answering your question. The ones that really excel is
• 47:11
  hungry. They are hungry and they want to
• 47:14
  learn. And they don't just want to
• 47:15
  learn from a preconceived idea of what a teacher can be.
• 47:20
  They want to expose themselves. They want to be in as many
• 47:25
  situations as possible because ultimately that is what expands
• 47:29
  their minds and that is what sort of tickles their fancy.
• 47:34
  And that is what, you know, feed the imagination, prompt the
• 47:39
  human imagination to go, wow. You know, there's options and
• 47:44
  potential possibilities that is in this.
• 47:47
  And I think that's for me the beauty about diversity because
• 47:50
  you can't travel if you don't want to embrace diversities.
• 47:53
  Travelling puts you in situations where you sometimes
• 47:56
  really do well with diversity. You go, wow, in this situation,
• 48:00
  I'm adaptable and I'm flexible. And then you come in other
• 48:03
  situations, other diverse experience, and you go, I am the
• 48:07
  worst person I am in in this situation.
• 48:10
  I'm so open to diversity and I naturally flow into inclusivity.
• 48:14
  But then I get into a different situation.
• 48:16
  Good, this gracious. I didn't know I was so stubborn.
• 48:19
  I didn't know I was resistant to change.
• 48:21
  I can't understand how difficult it is for me to get aligned to
• 48:25
  this culture and to understand the differences.
• 48:28
  You have to put yourself in that soup, you know, to really value
• 48:34
  where you excel and where you're not doing that well, you know,
• 48:38
  and then stretch yourself. And and that's why we do what we
• 48:41
  do is to put ourselves in that situation.
• 48:44
  And extending on your question, what makes a leader really excel
• 48:48
  is I don't, I don't only think it's a person who's willing to
• 48:52
  learn. I think it's someone also who's
• 48:56
  comfortable with discomfort. They understand that they're.
• 48:59
  Comfortable being uncomfortable. Oh, it's.
• 49:01
  Not going to be easy, you know, society has now taught us
• 49:05
  positive affirmations and the learning experience and it's
• 49:08
  going to be roses all the time. Hashtag not true, Not true, not
• 49:15
  true. Do you want to?
• 49:16
  Do you want to know what's written on my wall?
• 49:19
  Yeah, please read that for me. OK, things to remember.
• 49:24
  Tomorrow is a new day. Making mistakes is part of life.
• 49:28
  There you go. Not everyone has to like you.
• 49:31
  Keep an optimistic attitude. Beauty and strength come from
• 49:35
  within. Do.
• 49:36
  You know that from the top of your mind.
• 49:39
  Alright, yeah. What did you read that?
• 49:42
  Kinda, yeah, I can really. I can see it on the screen and
• 49:45
  it's it's. Really cool.
• 49:46
  That's really cool, huh? You basically got your value
• 49:49
  system up against your wall. Isn't that incredible?
• 49:54
  Thank you. You know, that's why we need
• 49:57
  landing in London. Andy from London is now living
• 50:00
  in South Africa. I did live in, I did live in
• 50:03
  London for a year. I loved every moment.
• 50:05
  I'm very fond of London. I'm very fond of, you know, the
• 50:08
  country where you buy a poem for a pound under the bridges.
• 50:13
  You know, it's very inspiring. Wow.
• 50:17
  Well, thank. Thank you, London, Mrs Landy and
• 50:20
  we. Need.
• 50:21
  Landy to land in London? Yeah, I bought a poem under a
• 50:24
  bridge next to the Times River in London, and it was called For
• 50:29
  a Pound. And the guy was sitting there,
• 50:31
  poet, artist, and he was writing, writing his poems.
• 50:35
  And he would look at you and then he would pick a poem that
• 50:37
  he believes was written for you even before he met you.
• 50:41
  And the poem was called Blue Moon.
• 50:43
  I'll never forget. But find this type of stuff in
• 50:47
  London, right? That's why I always look back to
• 50:50
  London with founders. I had such epiphanies and breaks
• 50:53
  or experiences. You know the saying London makes
• 50:55
  you or breaks you. I believe it made me.
• 50:58
  And I'll always be grateful for London for that.
• 51:01
  Oh. Wow, love and respect to London.
• 51:05
  Yeah, London. Whoa.
• 51:07
  That's actually true. It does make you or break.
• 51:09
  You. But, you know, that's it.
• 51:11
  Yeah. You, you just have to be
• 51:13
  resilient and discover yourself. Yeah, it does help you discover
• 51:18
  yourself, Yeah. Absolutely.
• 51:20
  I love London for that. Yeah, me too.
• 51:24
  I'm on the same fight with you. We are still angry you're not on
• 51:27
  the same page with us. We are still angry you run away
• 51:29
  from us until you come back. We'll keep fighting you.
• 51:34
  Yeah, no, I like, I will be back and we've been back many times.
• 51:37
  We've been back to London many times.
• 51:39
  So we, we love going there. It's just, well, I love going
• 51:43
  there. My husband doesn't like London
• 51:44
  that much, but I do. And I think that's, that's the
• 51:47
  thing with London, it's a very polarising energy.
• 51:50
  You love it or you hate it. You, you never find a person to
• 51:53
  go. People have strong opinions.
• 51:55
  They go, oh, I love London or they go, I never want to go to
• 51:58
  London again. Interesting, isn't it?
• 52:02
  Interesting, you know, and of course I remember the British
• 52:05
  transfer system, see it say it's sorted, you know.
• 52:09
  CFL there. You go.
• 52:12
  There you go. You know, like even that global.
• 52:15
  Experience like how do you ensure that your global teams
• 52:19
  remain aligned and motivated despite the cultural differences
• 52:24
  and of course, the geographical distances?
• 52:28
  Well, I think #1 values, right? So for us, values is very, very
• 52:32
  important. And we have certain values that
• 52:35
  we've instilled in our culture. Love is obviously a huge value
• 52:38
  for us. Consciousness is a huge value
• 52:40
  for us. Doing things like, you know,
• 52:41
  doing the right thing is a huge value for us.
• 52:44
  Excellence is a huge, huge value for us.
• 52:47
  You know, so I think the first thing for us when we get a team
• 52:50
  member on board is to take 10 times more time.
• 52:54
  And you must listen because there's alarm in the background.
• 52:56
  So this is a very important point to take 10 times more time
• 53:03
  to align with values than to, you know, anything else.
• 53:08
  So I think traditionally when we do interviews or we get teams on
• 53:13
  on border, we focus a lot of the competence and competence is
• 53:17
  important, but we don't, you know, focus on value.
• 53:21
  So for me and Mike and building our team around the world, we
• 53:24
  probably have at this stage about 33 people around the world
• 53:28
  working with us, not for us. And we values align.
• 53:32
  So we dream the same dream. We want the same thing and we're
• 53:38
  on the same page when it comes to values.
• 53:40
  After that, we feel competence can be trained.
• 53:43
  We believe in regular communication in easy ways like
• 53:47
  WhatsApp. We believe in doing voice notes
• 53:49
  back and forth to each other where you can hear the tone of
• 53:52
  voice so that misunderstandings doesn't happen.
• 53:56
  Another thing about, you know, e-mail that I don't like the the
• 53:59
  misunderstandings can happen so quickly.
• 54:01
  So we believe in doing that. We believe in getting online and
• 54:05
  having regular check insurance with each other.
• 54:08
  And then of course me and Mike do believe in buying the
• 54:11
  tickets, getting on the airport, getting on the aeroplane and
• 54:14
  seeing people face to face. There's incredible value.
• 54:17
  And that as well because it's about building that
• 54:19
  relationship. Now, I can't say you can't do
• 54:22
  that online, but it's wonderful if you go and see a person.
• 54:25
  I think there's many people around the world that doesn't,
• 54:27
  that don't go and visit their teams.
• 54:29
  They they only do the the Riverside or the Zoom or the
• 54:33
  whatever they might be using or WhatsApp or whatever.
• 54:36
  Riverside, why are you? And you know, I got it.
• 54:42
  Good old Riverside. Come from London to Landy in
• 54:46
  Cape Town. Good old Riverside.
• 54:49
  You know, whatever you're using, whatever you're using, that's
• 54:52
  great, it's an enabler, but you want to get in the aeroplane.
• 54:56
  I want to encourage you all to get in your aeroplanes and buy
• 55:00
  tickets and go and see your people and go do something with
• 55:05
  your people. I want to encourage Landy to buy
• 55:08
  me a ticket to Cape Town so I could come and see Landy and
• 55:12
  Mike. Landy and Mike is not going to
• 55:15
  buy you tickets, Adimola, you're gonna, you're going to be buying
• 55:19
  your own tickets. Have you heard of buying Munich?
• 55:23
  Adimola, you've got family. Yeah.
• 55:26
  They expect you to come and visit you.
• 55:28
  Yeah. It's not African.
• 55:29
  Cape Town. Let me remind you now.
• 55:33
  I'll go family. Johannesburg.
• 55:35
  You're Johannesburg. Don't care.
• 55:37
  Exactly. So your family in Johannesburg
• 55:40
  expect you to come and visit them.
• 55:42
  So you're going to have to come soon and they're going to listen
• 55:46
  to this podcast and they're going to go.
• 55:47
  I told you so. This is a message from.
• 55:52
  Wow. Man, it's been a really, really
• 55:54
  great. Session and of course I know
• 55:56
  that Landy needs to go land somewhere else, so I'm just
• 55:59
  going to give her five quick fire round questions before she
• 56:03
  leaves because the most difficult thing to say is
• 56:05
  goodbye. Number one.
• 56:07
  What's your favourite city in the world for inspiration?
• 56:11
  It has to be Paris. I love fashion.
• 56:14
  I love fashion. I love Philly.
• 56:17
  Well, wow. Interesting.
• 56:18
  So Paris first, Cape Town next, London next.
• 56:21
  You love. London, but it's I.
• 56:24
  Love London. I love London, but I love Paris.
• 56:28
  I love New York. I love the big cities.
• 56:31
  I'm sorry, I'm a big city girl. I love it.
• 56:33
  Cape. Town.
• 56:34
  New York. Paris.
• 56:35
  Are you saying London is not a big city?
• 56:38
  No, I love London, but I would say but careful.
• 56:41
  Whatever you say, you can be used against.
• 56:43
  You. That's a law.
• 56:44
  That's a cricketer. I would say for top three.
• 56:48
  I'm sorry, can you please forgive me?
• 56:50
  Adimola. Top 3 Ferris.
• 56:54
  Father forgive her for. New York, not what she does.
• 56:57
  Yeah, Ferris Paytel, New York. There you go.
• 57:02
  You're just going to have to forgive me.
• 57:03
  Sorry. OK, OK, your sins are forgiven.
• 57:06
  Go and see no more. If you could only choose one
• 57:09
  mindset or strategy. Creating space, emptying the
• 57:14
  glass, focusing in your mind to empty it more than to put things
• 57:17
  in it. So we're now in the education
• 57:20
  and in the information overlord era.
• 57:22
  So we constantly focusing on consuming more, more, more, get
• 57:26
  more in the mind, learn more, learn more, learn.
• 57:27
  I mean, I get it, right? I'm a Gemini.
• 57:29
  I'm going to do it up. Guiltiest charge, right?
• 57:31
  Worse in the world, but to focus more on emptying and getting
• 57:36
  more out of the mind, clearing the mind, letting the fog go.
• 57:40
  I think it's probably for me personally, one of the most
• 57:42
  powerful mindset strategies that you can employ.
• 57:46
  OK, so one habit that is not negotiable for your daily
• 57:52
  success. Dancing, dancing, dancing.
• 57:55
  I start every single day with dancing.
• 57:58
  I do a lot of. I've done dancing for all my
• 58:00
  life for a long time, modern dancing, hip hop, freestyle,
• 58:07
  slow dancing, rock'n'roll, ballet.
• 58:10
  But since I've started travelling really like this,
• 58:12
  which is now for 10 years, I'm not able to find a studio so.
• 58:16
  And if I do, I'm here, then I'm there, then I'm here, then I'm
• 58:18
  there. So every single day starts with
• 58:20
  my Bose speaker that travels with me and dancing, and I do
• 58:26
  not compromise on that. No clients, no person, no one
• 58:30
  can enter that space. It's my absolute joy and it
• 58:33
  makes for a youthful and very happy mindset.
• 58:37
  I sort of imagine I'm in the club, I dance my morning, I put
• 58:40
  on my music, I've got my playlist and I just imagine I'm
• 58:43
  in my club and I dance my heart out, no.
• 58:46
  Compromise speaker I I am the JBL guy.
• 58:51
  I'm both say. Coming around the world with my
• 58:53
  JBL. Speaker both say for me all the
• 58:56
  no. Yeah, because you're a boss, you
• 58:58
  know? Baby.
• 59:00
  The the boss is using the boss say you said it.
• 59:04
  I'll say good if you say I'll take it.
• 59:07
  Well, the JBL is what the leaders you know.
• 59:10
  Whatever, whatever. The the Just Born leader.
• 59:15
  JBL. OK, so what's the best business
• 59:19
  advice? You've ever received?
• 59:24
  There's so many things. Consistency, just remain
• 59:27
  consistent. I'm sorry to our entrepreneurial
• 59:29
  list. Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 59:31
  I know it's been given so many times to people, but just
• 59:35
  continue to do it over and over. You know, if you think about it,
• 59:38
  walking, we got to walk today because we put 1 foot in front
• 59:43
  of the other. Continue, continue consistently.
• 59:46
  Do it and you will be successful.
• 59:49
  Don't give up consistently do it 11 foot in front of the other.
• 59:54
  I think there's a song like that.
• 59:56
  One foot in front of the other babe consistently, consistently.
• 1:00:02
  Just keep on going, keep on doing it.
• 1:00:04
  Don't give up here. Never, never keep up and you.
• 1:00:08
  Say, am I allowed to say that? I love that now you're inspiring
• 1:00:14
  me to buy the ticket. I'm.
• 1:00:15
  Going to be stoned for that one, I know, but I'll take it.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah, you know the. Best, OK, best advice you've
• 1:00:22
  ever had? And of course, at the very last
• 1:00:24
  one is what's one thing entrepreneurs must stop doing
• 1:00:27
  immediately to become successful?
• 1:00:31
  I think we and you said earlier we very reactive.
• 1:00:36
  We, we very you know, this one says this and I'm going to do
• 1:00:39
  this This one says this and I'm going to do this This one says
• 1:00:41
  this. I'm going to do it.
• 1:00:43
  Just start your day with what I call the golden hour and use
• 1:00:47
  your own brain. Stop with all the 1000
• 1:00:51
  distractions. Use the first hour to decide,
• 1:00:55
  prioritise. What do I want to do with my
• 1:00:59
  day? What's the one thing I want to
• 1:01:02
  achieve with my day, regardless of what my e-mail says or my
• 1:01:07
  WhatsApp says, or what the latest fad or trend is, What do
• 1:01:11
  I want and what do I want to achieve?
• 1:01:14
  And focus on that consistently. If you can find a way to focus
• 1:01:18
  and fight distraction, you'll be a very successful person.
• 1:01:22
  In fact, I'll go as fast aside to our listeners, You'll be able
• 1:01:25
  to achieve 10 times more in half of the time of the day because
• 1:01:30
  you're actually focused. So stop being an octopus with
• 1:01:33
  eight tentacles. Start becoming like a swordfish,
• 1:01:36
  where you're really just focusing on that one thing and
• 1:01:39
  make it happen. Focus on one thing you know that
• 1:01:43
  don't be a Jack of many traits and a master of none.
• 1:01:47
  Speaking of that. There's Landy Jack, master of
• 1:01:50
  all pride, dear. Oh.
• 1:01:52
  Don't beat Landy, Jack. Oh, nice, nice, nice little
• 1:01:57
  words, you know. I encourage our viewers, our
• 1:02:01
  listeners to please go join the Circle of Excellence and of
• 1:02:04
  course, land Jack. How do they land the jackpot of
• 1:02:09
  the Circle of Excellence? I love that, Adimola.
• 1:02:12
  Thank you. I love this interview and I'm
• 1:02:15
  wishing all of the best and blessings to your listeners.
• 1:02:18
  Thank you very much. So I think on the show notes I
• 1:02:22
  would would you be kind enough to send the link for our people
• 1:02:25
  to join the Settle of Excellence?
• 1:02:28
  Absolutely, they can go to the Settle of Excellence dot club
• 1:02:30
  link and they'll be able to join the waiting list there if they
• 1:02:33
  want to be part of the private membership club which we are
• 1:02:36
  building around the world. So you just put up your details
• 1:02:40
  there, you're part of the waiting list and then Bob's your
• 1:02:42
  uncle will contact us here at some site when we launch later
• 1:02:46
  this year in the means of you just have to wait on the waiting
• 1:02:49
  list. Patience perceives a virtue.
• 1:02:52
  You know. Exact patience.
• 1:02:54
  Come to those a good things. Come to those who wait, right?
• 1:02:58
  Smile, wisdom. I love that, I love that.
• 1:03:01
  And of course, you know, a very, very big thank you to you.
• 1:03:03
  Honestly, an attitude of gratitude is good attitude.
• 1:03:06
  And of course, you know a when a person shares the time with you,
• 1:03:09
  they share their life with you. So thank you very much, Landy
• 1:03:11
  Jack, for spending your time and of course, your life out with me
• 1:03:16
  and of course, the audience today.
• 1:03:17
  And before you leave, do you want to leave a shout out for
• 1:03:20
  anybody? And of course, please do
• 1:03:22
  encourage our audience to do the needful live share, subscribe
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  and of course, you know, push the message out.
• 1:03:29
  So for our listeners here today, play a bigger game.
• 1:03:35
  Play a bigger game and please, there's so many people in the
• 1:03:39
  world that needs this type of inspiration and has been looking
• 1:03:42
  for a sign or a message and this may be it.
• 1:03:46
  So please pay it forward by liking, sharing and subscribing.
• 1:03:51
  Thank you, Alimola. Oh wow, thank you.
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  And of course, you know your shout out.
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  I guess you you would want to shout out to your team or
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  something. But of course, a shout out to
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  your team, shout out to Mike and of course whoever you want to
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  give a shout. Out shout out shout out to the
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  love of my like Mike and cock. There's just no man like him on
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  this planet and I love our life and everything we do together.
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  And shout out to our super of excellence, especially gold
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  clients who's just playing a bigger game and so
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  inspirational. And to every single person
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  around this planet that's making things happening for us by
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  supporting us with such incredible dedication and love.
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  Interesting. And of course, shout out to your
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  cousin. Tricus du Pasi the the You asked
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  me to win Champion of the world and shout out to every African.
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  That is proud of African, African heritage.
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  Africa is rising. Africa.
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  Africa. Is rising.
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  Watch this, guys. Yeah, yeah.
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  Probably African. And of course you know our
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  audience. Until I come your way again, I
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  keep working hard to land the jackpot, you know, create
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  individuals like Landed Jack, you know, just support and of
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  course look after yourselves. Good.