Beer vs. Wine: Which Pairs Better With Food? | Garrett Oliver

The Restaurant Guys · May 14, 2026 · 37m · transcript

This is a Vintage episode from 2006

Why This Episode Matters

Long before craft beer became mainstream, Garrett Oliver was arguing that beer belonged at the fine dining table

This 2006 conversation captures the early days of American craft brewing before the explosion of brewery culture and IPA dominance

Garrett explains why beer may pair with food better than wine — then challenges Francis to prove him wrong

The episode explores brewing philosophy, Belgian traditions, and the business pressures of growth

Includes a fascinating snapshot of how small Brooklyn Brewery still was in 2006 — despite…