Latest / 20-Minute Health Talk / Top 5 medical advances of 2024
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- 0:05Sandra Lindsay: Hello, and welcome to 20 Minute Health Talk.
- 0:08I'm Sandra Lindsey.
- 0:10It's become a tradition each December for us to look back at some of the top
- 0:16research advances coming out of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research,
- 0:22the research arm of Northwell Health.
- 0:25And the past 12 months have given us much to talk about.
- 0:30Researchers at the Feinstein Institutes have made meaningful strides
- 0:35in understanding risk for diseases like pulmonary hypertension,
- 0:40Alzheimer's disease, and schizophrenia.
- 0:44We're learning more about how biological factors shape sex and gender.
- 0:50And we're gathering information about care for patients with trouble swallowing,
- 0:55that could inform how best to manage their care.
- 1:05Up until recently,
- 1:0798 to 99% of the human genome was considered junk DNA,
- 1:14meaning it doesn't influence things like our appearance, health,
- 1:20or other aspects of our biology.
- 1:23But new research from Dr.
- 1:25Douglas Nixon, Director of Feinstein's Institute for Translational Research,
- 1:32is challenging that notion.
- 1:35Dr. Nixon: When the human genome was originally sequenced,
- 1:39it was a big shock to everyone because only about 1 to 2% of
- 1:45the human genome was coding for genes.
- 1:48That was a surprise.
- 1:50And the majority of the genome is other stuff.
- 1:55And I became very interested in that other stuff.
- 1:58Sandra Lindsay: Along with experts from King's College, London, Dr.
- 2:02Nixon made headlines in 2024 with a study proving this other stuff isn't
- 2:10junk at all and in fact, could be influencing our mental health.
- 2:15Dr. Nixon and his team chose to study human endogenous retroviruses,
- 2:22which have been embedded in our DNA for millions of years.
- 2:26Passed from parents to children, they were thought to be dormant.
- 2:32Dr. Nixon: As a virologist,
- 2:33I was shocked to find that 9% of everyone's genome is actually the remnants
- 2:43of ancient infectious viruses that are sitting in our genome.
- 2:48And very few people have actually been studying what these might do.
- 2:53Sandra Lindsay: And no one had ever looked at the connection between
- 2:57these remnants and psychiatric disorders.
- 3:01Dr. Nixon: No one, until we came along, had put two important components together.
- 3:06Sandra Lindsay: The researchers reviewed existing records about genes and disease risk.
- 3:12Dr. Nixon: Many of us who've done 23 or me or ancestry will understand that
- 3:17if you have a certain gene, then you might have a higher risk.
- 3:21Sandra Lindsay: They compared two large, seemingly unrelated data sets.
- 3:27One, which Dr. Nixon helps create,
- 3:30cataloged the locations and types of human endogenous retroviruses in human DNA.
- 3:38The other looks for correlations between specific genetic variations and,
- 3:44and the likelihood of developing a particular disease,
- 3:48as well as how active a gene is and how that relates to disease risk.
- 3:54Dr. Nixon: When we put these human endogenous retroviruses into this genetic risk method,
- 4:00what surprised us and what we wrote the paper about Is we found that a large
- 4:06component of the risk for developing schizophrenia or major depressive disorder
- 4:12could actually be related to variation in the inherited
- 4:17endogenous retroviruses that we get from our parents.
- 4:20For the first time, we're now being able to think about the biology,
- 4:25the genetics of psychiatry
- 4:29buried in the dark genome.
- 4:30Sandra Lindsay: And dark genome is yet another name for that other stuff or junk DNA.
- 4:40Now Dr.
- 4:41Nixon said they are exploring whether any of these endogenous
- 4:45retroviruses they identified can produce proteins.
- 4:50Dr. Nixon: Because if they can produce proteins,
- 4:52then there may be an easier biomarker which we could look in blood
- 4:59to see and monitor people living with schizophrenia who are
- 5:06currently under treatment. The work that we've done,
- 5:08I'm hoping will lead to new treatment options in the future.
- 5:22Sandra Lindsay: 2024 brought much conversation on sex and gender in
- 5:28the public sphere as well as among researchers.
- 5:31Dr. Dhamala: A lot of people are just getting excited about a lot of these different
- 5:34opportunities for avenues of research that we can go
- 5:37down that just haven't been explored in the past.
- 5:40Sandra Lindsay: That's Dr. Elvisha Damela,
- 5:44Assistant professor in the Institute of Behavioral Sciences at the
- 5:48Feinstein Institute, interested in advancing these conversations.
- 5:54Dr. Damela recently authored a paper on the neurological
- 5:59drivers of sex and gender in early development.
- 6:03Dr. Dhamala: I'm really passionate about just understanding how sex and gender influence
- 6:07our day to day lives.
- 6:08They influence our health, our behavior.
- 6:11Sandra Lindsay: The research was based on precise definitions of sex and gender.
- 6:16Dr. Dhamala: In this study, specifically,
- 6:18we defined sex as sex assigned at birth and we only had
- 6:22information about binary sex, so male and female.
- 6:25In terms of gender,
- 6:26we actually considered it along a continuum and we considered
- 6:29both how the children and the parents reported their gender,
- 6:33and we considered it in terms of gender identity, belt gender,
- 6:37gender contentedness, gender expression, as well as sex type,
- 6:41behavior during play, and gender dysphoria.
- 6:44Sandra Lindsay: An important distinction in her research because
- 6:47of the ways the two might inform treatment.
- 6:51Dr. Dhamala: Especially in the last decade,
- 6:52there has been a lot of emphasis to try and understand how sex differences in
- 6:57brain and behavior might actually make men or women more vulnerable to specific
- 7:01illnesses and see how we might actually be able to develop sex therapeutic
- 7:06interventions that are more effective than just general ones.
- 7:09So now if we also add in this component of gender,
- 7:12it can further lead us to the pathway towards precision medicine where we can
- 7:17actually take in information about different people's identities and use
- 7:21that to actually come up with a plan that's most appropriate for them.
- 7:24Sandra Lindsay: The paper analyzed data on sex and gender collected
- 7:30in a large scale study of children.
- 7:32Dr. Dhamala: So this is Data from the Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development,
- 7:35or the ABCD study, which is an ongoing longitudinal study of development,
- 7:39and it includes close to 12,000 youth in total.
- 7:42And these kids are being followed throughout the course of development.
- 7:46They were recruited at about ages 9 to 10,
- 7:48and they're being followed longitudinally for 10 years.
- 7:51Sandra Lindsay: She was able to process this data with the use of a machine learning algorithm,
- 7:58or AI that teaches itself to scan data sets and recognize patterns.
- 8:04Dr. Dhamala: So we looked at relationships between the brain data and sex,
- 8:07and then we also separately looked at the relationships
- 8:10between the brain data and gender.
- 8:12Sandra Lindsay: One of the main takeaways for Dr.
- 8:15Damela related to the ways sex and gender are
- 8:19both shaped by connections in the brain.
- 8:22Dr. Dhamala: So this study actually shows that sex and gender both map onto the brain,
- 8:27and the ways in which they map onto the brain
- 8:29are actually different from one another.
- 8:31What we see is that sex influences brain regions that are involved
- 8:34in visual processing, sensory processing, motor control,
- 8:37as well as regions involved in executive function.
- 8:40Whereas gender was more dispersed and it had a broader
- 8:44influence throughout the entire brain.
- 8:46And these included large areas that are involved in executive function,
- 8:49including things like attention, social cognition, and emotional processing.
- 8:54Sandra Lindsay: And although discourse around sex and gender usually arises in relation
- 8:59to the LGBTQIA+ community, Dr. Dhamala explained
- 9:05Dr. Dhamala: Every single person. Has a gender, and that influences who we are.
- 9:10And we see that it clearly also influences our brain.
- 9:13So it's not actually just individuals that might identify as non binary,
- 9:17gender fluid or genderqueer that this is going to affect.
- 9:19This actually affects every single person.
- 9:21Sandra Lindsay: The study supports the idea that sex and gender don't necessarily stop forming.
- 9:28Rather,
- 9:29the potential for these neurological frameworks
- 9:32to evolve and reshape remains for life.
- 9:35Dr. Dhamala: I think it's important to recognize that a lot of these aspects of who we are
- 9:42and our biology does change significantly throughout the course of development.
- 9:47So as these kids go through puberty,
- 9:49go through life changing experiences throughout the course of adolescence their
- 9:54brains are still developing and they are also still continuing
- 9:58to develop in terms of who they are and how they identify.
- 10:02So it'll be really important to actually look at whether these relationships
- 10:05that we found stay consistent throughout the course of development,
- 10:08or if it's actually going to change in some way that might be more relevant,
- 10:12especially when we start to think about how this
- 10:14could affect adults or people in older ages.
- 10:25Sandra Lindsay: Next,
- 10:25we take a look at a study that assesses dietary care for hospital patients.
- 10:32Dr. Sinvani: It's interesting the way this, this all started.
- 10:35It kind of almost happened by, by chance.
- 10:37Sandra Lindsay: Dr. Liron Sinvani,
- 10:40assistant professor at the Feinstein Institute of Health System Science
- 10:45and director of Northwell's Geriatric Hospitalist Services,
- 10:49is hoping to ease the burden for older hospital patients who
- 10:55have trouble swallowing, a condition called dysphagia.
- 10:59Dr. Sinvani: So about a third of older adults will suffer from dysphagia,
- 11:03which is this trouble or difficulty swallowing.
- 11:06In the hospital,
- 11:07it's even more prevalent than in hospitalized people with dementia.
- 11:11It's it affects up to almost 90% of patients.
- 11:16Sandra Lindsay: The standard for feeding patients with dysphagia has been thick liquid diets.
- 11:22Dr. Sinvani: When we swallow liquid, thin liquids, it comes in fast, right?
- 11:27Because it's thin liquid, you drink it.
- 11:29And for a person who has dysphagia,
- 11:31it can be difficult to kind of handle that and control it as it's going down.
- 11:36Whereas if you thicken the fluid, they have more control of it.
- 11:39It moves slower so they can swallow it with more confidence.
- 11:43Sandra Lindsay: This diet also involves cutting up,
- 11:47mincing or pureeing foods to make them soft and easier to swallow.
- 11:52If foreign objects like food are inhaled into the lungs,
- 11:56it can lead to a dangerous lung infection called aspiration pneumonia.
- 12:01Dr. Sinvani: It can cause choking, which is very, very scary.
- 12:04It can cause people to just cough and like struggle to breathe for a second.
- 12:10And we know that that leads to poor outcomes.
- 12:13You know, pneumonia is very dangerous in older people.
- 12:17Sandra Lindsay: Although thick liquid diets were put in place with safety and comfort in mind,
- 12:22they can often be counterproductive.
- 12:25Dr. Sinvani: Imagine let's say that you,
- 12:27it's a hot day and you're very thirsty and you want to drink water.
- 12:32And I say, well, you can have water, you have to drink honey, right?
- 12:37And it's not the most like hydrating thing.
- 12:39And people tend to, to be thirst.
- 12:42It's really hard to explain, especially to someone with dementia, let's say,
- 12:46or cognitive impairment, Alzheimer's disease,
- 12:49where they just really want the food that they're used to.
- 12:52And of course, the most frustrating part is if that person is crying,
- 12:56I'm thirsty, I'm thirsty, or I don't like this food,
- 12:58all of a sudden now they're not eating.
- 13:00Then it's a major quality of life issue.
- 13:02Sandra Lindsay: A few years back, Dr.
- 13:05Sinvani was asked to contribute to a medical journal.
- 13:08This problem with thick liquid diets came to mind.
- 13:12Dr. Sinvani: I had a patient who was admitted with aspiration pneumonia and with dysphasia.
- 13:16And I was thinking like, what's the evidence?
- 13:18Why am I putting this person on a dysphasia diet when they hate it so much?
- 13:23And I was looking at the literature.
- 13:24And I saw, really, there wasn't much to.
- 13:27Support this universal practice that we all do.
- 13:31Sandra Lindsay: With funding from the National Institute of Aging, Dr.
- 13:35Sinvani and fellow Feinstein Institute's researcher
- 13:40Dr. Alex Makhnevich,
- 13:42enlisted a team of data analysts to comb over 40,000
- 13:46patient records drawn from 11 Northwell hospitals.
- 13:54Their goal was to figure out whether thick liquid
- 13:58diets influence mortality in these patients.
- 14:02What they discovered was stunning.
- 14:05Dr. Sinvani: There was no difference in mortality,
- 14:09which is significant.
- 14:11And then, you know,
- 14:12it did show that the thick liquids had increased risk of respiratory
- 14:18complications but decreased risk of intubation.
- 14:20Sandra Lindsay: This outcome raises important questions about the benefits
- 14:25of thick liquid diets for dysphagia management, and Dr.
- 14:30Sinvani says, requires more research to improve guidelines on its use.
- 14:35Dr. Sinvani: Because this is a retrospective study,
- 14:37we're not saying that we should be changing management based on our study.
- 14:42There are probably patients that would benefit from thickened liquids
- 14:47and dysphagia diets, but there are probably patients that don't,
- 14:52where the impact on quality of life sort of overtakes the benefit.
- 14:59The bottom line from our study is to show that
- 15:02things may not be as clear cut as we think.
- 15:05Sandra Lindsay: Dr. Sinvani also hopes that her research inspires caregivers
- 15:11to think critically about the care they provide.
- 15:14Dr. Sinvani: Just because something is a standard of care doesn't mean that
- 15:19it's necessarily backed by rigorous evidence.
- 15:23Right?
- 15:23And I think that's, that's an important lesson.
- 15:26It's okay to question things and to question common practices.
- 15:46Sandra Lindsay: Alzheimer's disease is devastating,
- 15:49robbing individuals of their memories and often their sense of self.
- 15:55But for many, the disease brings another heartbreaking symptom.
- 16:00Dr. Koppel: Psychosis is probably the most severe syndrome, behavioral syndrome,
- 16:06that people with Alzheimer's experience.
- 16:08Sandra Lindsay: That's Dr. Jeremy Koppel,
- 16:10co director of the Litwin Zucker Research center at the Feinstein institutes and
- 16:17co author of a study that could help detect this often overlooked
- 16:22aspect of Alzheimer's earlier, using a simple blood test.
- 16:27Dr. Koppel: Psychosis is something that affects 40 to 50% of people,
- 16:31probably over the course of their disease.
- 16:33Women more than men, very difficult to manage.
- 16:37Sandra Lindsay: And very often families don't make the connection.
- 16:41Dr. Koppel: So they'll come and they'll say, listen, yes, he has Alzheimer's,
- 16:44but he has another problem.
- 16:46And they'll describe it, and they are not aware that it's related.
- 16:50And so it doesn't really get the appropriate treatment early on.
- 16:54Sandra Lindsay: But new research is offering a glimmer of hope.
- 16:58Dr. Koppel and his team are investigating whether a simple blood test
- 17:03could predict the onset of psychosis in Alzheimer's patients.
- 17:08The Key lies in proteins like amyloid and tau, spelled tau,
- 17:15which help maintain the structure of brain cells.
- 17:19In Alzheimer's, tau becomes abnormal and accumulates,
- 17:24contributing to the death of these cells.
- 17:27Dr. Koppel: Amyloid builds up outside of brain cells.
- 17:30Tau builds up inside of brain cells.
- 17:33Sandra Lindsay: Increased levels of these two proteins are the hallmark sign
- 17:38of Alzheimer's disease. But detecting them is no easy task.
- 17:43Dr. Koppel: We did spinal taps for years.
- 17:45We still do because that was the only way we could see some of these proteins.
- 17:49Sandra Lindsay: While these proteins are shed from the brain into the bloodstream
- 17:53where they can be measured, they circulate at very low concentrations.
- 18:00Dr. Koppel: Which would make it really hard to detect them.
- 18:01Sandra Lindsay: But advances in technology over the last decade have solved for this issue in
- 18:08the form of highly sensitive blood tests that uses antibodies or immune cells
- 18:14to seek out and latch onto specific target proteins, in this case tau.
- 18:21Dr. Koppel: So what we did is we took these very critical proteins
- 18:25that are used to diagnose Alzheimer's,
- 18:27and we looked at the concentration of those in
- 18:30the blood of people who had become psychotic.
- 18:32Sandra Lindsay: Dr. Kopel and co author on the paper,
- 18:36Dr. Jesus Gomar,
- 18:37analyzed blood samples from nearly 1,000 participants in the Alzheimer's
- 18:43Disease Neuroimaging Initiative, a large ongoing study.
- 18:48These individuals had provided blood samples and undergone cognitive testing
- 18:54over several years. Some developed psychosis, others did not.
- 19:00Dr. Koppel: So it turns out, before they became delusional or developed hallucinations,
- 19:06the tau in their blood began to go up.
- 19:09And when we looked at people who never became psychotic but had Alzheimer's,
- 19:12their tau sort of remained flat.
- 19:14The concentration didn't change. It was much higher than if they were healthy,
- 19:18but it didn't change. If they never got psychotic,
- 19:20if they were getting psychotic, it went up.
- 19:23Sandra Lindsay: Then, they discovered something even more revealing.
- 19:28Dr. Koppel: When they actually had a episode of psychosis, it fell.
- 19:32After that, it never reached the level of a healthy control.
- 19:34But it looked like there was this rise and fall that always remained elevated,
- 19:39but looked really, really different than non psychotic Alzheimer's.
- 19:43That's important because that tells you that there's something dynamic
- 19:47about Tao in psychosis that's not true once you get Alzheimer's.
- 19:54Sandra Lindsay: This finding was further supported by examining brain
- 19:58tissue post mortem from a separate data set,
- 20:03confirming the link between tau and the very earliest stages
- 20:07of psychotic Alzheimer's, even before symptoms appear.
- 20:12This discovery has the potential to revolutionize
- 20:17how we approach Alzheimer 's-related psychosis.
- 20:21Early detection through a blood test could lead to earlier intervention
- 20:26and the development of safer, more effective treatments.
- 20:35Last but not least, we spoke to Dr. Stavros Zanos,
- 20:39researcher and associate professor at the Feinstein
- 20:43Institutes and the Zucker School of Medicine.
- 20:47He and his team are exploring a new non invasive treatment
- 20:51option for an often fatal lung disease.
- 20:55Dr. Zanos: Pulmonary hypertension means high blood pressure inside the vessels of the lung.
- 21:01One type called pulmonary hypertension (PAH)
- 21:05It's the most complex type of pulmonary hypertension.
- 21:10In many of these patients with the disease,
- 21:12the PAH have what we call vasoconstriction of the pulmonary arteries,
- 21:18so the arteries are constantly constricting.
- 21:21Sandra Lindsay: Current FDA approved treatments focus on relaxing the lungs blood
- 21:27vessels to lower pressure. They improve quality of life,
- 21:32but don't address the underlying cause or improve long term survival.
- 21:37Dr. Zanos: And most of them actually die within less than 10 years after diagnosis.
- 21:41So it's a very severe and fatal disease.
- 21:44Sandra Lindsay: With patients and their doctors desperate for better options,
- 21:49Dr. Zanos is now testing a treatment that he thinks
- 21:54could address the underlying cause of PAH.
- 21:57Dr. Zanos: Immune system dysfunction and inflammation play a role in how this
- 22:03disease gets worse and worse, or even perhaps how it starts.
- 22:07Sandra Lindsay: When inflammation becomes excessive, it starts to do more harm than good.
- 22:13Rather than healing an injury, it can damage critical structures in the body,
- 22:19including organs. One way to treat this is by stimulating the vagus nerve,
- 22:25which controls the level or intensity of inflammation in the body,
- 22:30among other responsibilities.
- 22:33One type of vagus nerve stimulation uses ultrasound technology.
- 22:39While best known as an imaging tool used to monitor fetuses in the womb,
- 22:45it can and has been used as a treatment.
- 22:49Dr. Zanos: Focused ultrasound neuromodulation is using the same technology
- 22:53or a similar technology this time to generate mechanical waves,
- 22:58just like with imaging,
- 23:00but of certain parameters with certain characteristics
- 23:03that actually change the way cells work.
- 23:07Sandra Lindsay: In their study, they targeted a nerve in the spleen called the splenic nerve.
- 23:13Dr. Zanos said they chose this based on prior research showing that it helps
- 23:19suppress the immune response throughout the
- 23:22body when activated through stimulation.
- 23:25But what does a nerve in the spleen have to do with the lungs?
- 23:30Dr. Zanos: It doesn't have a simple answer.
- 23:32The short answer is we don't know, but we have some ideas.
- 23:37The core of the hypothesis,
- 23:39we change something in the nerve of the spleen that results
- 23:43in an immune change in these cells inside the spleen,
- 23:48resulting in a suppression of inflammation throughout the body,
- 23:51especially in that part of the body that is dysfunctional in PAH,
- 23:55which is the lungs.
- 23:56Sandra Lindsay: To test it, Dr.
- 23:58Zanos and his team applied focused ultrasound treatments to rats with pulmonary
- 24:04arterial hypertension, or PAH, 10 minutes a day, every day for two weeks.
- 24:11After the two weeks,
- 24:13the researchers compared the treated rats to a control group
- 24:17that hadn't received treatment.
- 24:19Dr. Zanos: So the animals that had received treatment at the end of two weeks,
- 24:23we found that they had reduced one of the major markers of severity
- 24:28of the disease, which is the pressure inside their lungs.
- 24:32It was about 30% less than the pressure in animals that were treated with the
- 24:38SAM treatment. So that was the first finding that kind of alerted us,
- 24:42and we thought, okay, there's something here, right?
- 24:44But does this translate to people with pah?
- 24:48We have no idea. Lots of open questions.
- 24:51So there are questions on the, let's say, mechanistic side of things.
- 24:55There are questions related to the technology development, and finally,
- 24:59there are clinical questions.
- 25:01Sandra Lindsay: Dr. Zanos said they are actively looking into all of these questions and
- 25:06hope to test this vagus nerve stimulation treatment in people with PAH in the coming years.
- 25:10Dr. Zanos: By maybe modifying the natural progression of the disease,
- 25:15maybe we can increase the life expectancy for these people
- 25:19which would be great because right now it's pretty bad.
- 25:29Sandra Lindsay: A sincere thank you to Drs.
- 25:32Stavros Zanos, Jeremy Koppel, Liron Sinvani, Elvisha Dhamala, and Douglas Nixon.
- 25:42What an incredible lineup representing the brilliant minds
- 25:46at the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research.
- 25:49They've given us a glimpse into the future of medicine,
- 25:53and 2025 is looking brighter than ever.
- 25:58While our countdown traditionally marks the end of our podcasting year,
- 26:03we have a heartwarming treat in store.
- 26:06Tune in later this week for a very special episode featuring
- 26:10the wisdom and delightful innocence of children.
- 26:14They'll be sharing their New Year's resolutions for grownups,
- 26:18offering a fresh perspective on what truly matters.
- 26:22As we head into 2025,
- 26:25it's the perfect way to wrap up a year of exploring health and and well being.
- 26:30On behalf of the entire 20 minute health talk team,
- 26:34thank you for being a part of our community.
- 26:37We wish you a joyful and healthy holiday season.
- 26:41I'm Sandra Lindsay, and this has been 20-Minute Health Talk.