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- 0:03Speaker 1: Ball systems going clear the lift.
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- 0:36Speaker 3: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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- 0:50Speaker 3: everyone along for the ride as this football season continues.
- 0:53Speaker 3: On Week fourteen, breaking down the eleven game main Slate
- 0:57Speaker 3: over on DraftKings. We'll bring some fan duel thoughts to
- 0:59Speaker 3: it as well. Will go game by game, talk about
- 1:01Speaker 3: our grand scheme, overview, roster construction, some of the injury
- 1:04Speaker 3: news overnight, and as usual, got my guys here with
- 1:07Speaker 3: me as always, title and.
- 1:08Speaker 4: Hoop and hoop.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I'll bring you in first man. Another another big week
- 1:11Speaker 2: and this slate's a fun one.
- 1:12Speaker 3: They all are, but you know, some people get a
- 1:13Speaker 3: little bit of fatigue as the season goes on.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I love it when these slates come out like this.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I personally love the slate.
- 1:19Speaker 5: Gotta keep grinding on.
- 1:21Speaker 6: I mean every slate has huge prize pools across the
- 1:24Speaker 6: industry and uh yeah, I mean we got a lot
- 1:27Speaker 6: more coming up too with these I don't know when
- 1:29Speaker 6: it is, but Saturday games are gonna start, so we'll
- 1:31Speaker 6: have some of these two game slates.
- 1:33Speaker 5: We'll have the Christmas Day slates.
- 1:35Speaker 6: So to end the season, there's even more slates like
- 1:39Speaker 6: outside a showdown too, So got the showdown. We're gonna
- 1:41Speaker 6: have like a lot of two and three game slates.
- 1:43Speaker 6: We're gonna have main slates. So's it requires a lot
- 1:47Speaker 6: of focus, you know, going all the way through the
- 1:49Speaker 6: season and then into the playoffs. So it seems like
- 1:52Speaker 6: it's almost done, but really it's it's still almost just
- 1:55Speaker 6: getting started when you factor in the playoffs and all that.
- 1:57Speaker 6: So man, looking forward to slate eleven games games, you know,
- 2:01Speaker 6: once you bring Burner Guy title, and I'll give the
- 2:04Speaker 6: little overview that we've kind of been doing each week
- 2:08Speaker 6: and get into it.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, it seems like it's almost done,
- 2:11Speaker 3: but it's really only just begun.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Let's get it rolling here.
- 2:14Speaker 3: We got the title, the backwards hat, the bea means
- 2:17Speaker 3: business maybe backwards.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Let's go. What's happening, man, How you doing?
- 2:20Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta mix it up. NFL haven't really got
- 2:23Speaker 4: a shipper, so maybe the backwards hat will change something
- 2:26Speaker 4: up today. But I'm with you.
- 2:27Speaker 5: I like this slate. Let's do it.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Let's get some money today backwards hats. But yeah, I
- 2:34Speaker 4: really like this late so I'm really excited to talk
- 2:36Speaker 4: through it. Yeah, week fourteen, it's coming to an end.
- 2:39Speaker 4: But playoffs is a long time I Coop said, we
- 2:41Speaker 4: still have all December, all January in a great early
- 2:44Speaker 4: February for the super Bowl. So yeah, let's get into it.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Lots of action going on. I'll let you run up
- 2:49Speaker 3: the weather and some of the prop stuff. Get all
- 2:51Speaker 3: that ready, as Hoop does as usual, gives us the
- 2:54Speaker 3: the now we got the team grand scheam over you.
- 2:56Speaker 3: We love it when Hoop just drops it on us.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So Hoop, I will let you take it away. Man,
- 2:59Speaker 3: it's eleven games. There's some big boy games in the afternoon,
- 3:02Speaker 3: and some chalk pieces that are kind of heavily related
- 3:04Speaker 3: towards that. But how do you see this thing shaken
- 3:06Speaker 3: out as an overview?
- 3:07Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of just going through the positions. Quarterback is
- 3:11Speaker 6: i'd say pretty wide open. And again, quarterback always gets
- 3:15Speaker 6: spread out. We always talk about it. I mean, even
- 3:17Speaker 6: when you think someone's going to be popular, at quarterback,
- 3:19Speaker 6: they're really not because everyone gets a little bit.
- 3:22Speaker 5: I think that is again going to be the case today.
- 3:24Speaker 6: Like I don't think anyone's really going to get much
- 3:27Speaker 6: higher than ten percent. Like I think that could be
- 3:29Speaker 6: the highest ooned quarterback right around there, you know, give
- 3:32Speaker 6: give or take a couple of percentage points, and that's
- 3:34Speaker 6: I think Josh Allen the most expensive guy in the slap.
- 3:36Speaker 6: But people have been hesitant to pay up at quarterback
- 3:39Speaker 6: this year, so I don't know, I think it gets
- 3:42Speaker 6: really really spread out. And then like after Josh Allen,
- 3:45Speaker 6: he's definitely the highest projected guy and most expensive, there's
- 3:49Speaker 6: just a lot of a lot of guys that are
- 3:51Speaker 6: going to get like a little bit. Like you know,
- 3:53Speaker 6: the next most expensive guy in DraftKings is Matthew Stafford.
- 3:56Speaker 6: People are not going to want to pay up for Stafford.
- 3:59Speaker 6: They're projected to score a ton today. People are kind
- 4:01Speaker 6: of over the Lamar Jackson thing, so he's going to
- 4:04Speaker 6: be like really low owned and he's looked terrible. I mean,
- 4:06Speaker 6: he's looked really really bad. And then you have guys
- 4:10Speaker 6: like Jacoby Brissette, Jaden Daniels is going to get some
- 4:16Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy is somehow back in our lives, Tyrod Taylor
- 4:19Speaker 6: for cheap you know, Trevor Lawrence for relatively cheap bo Nick.
- 4:23Speaker 6: So it's going to get really really spread out at
- 4:27Speaker 6: the quarterback position. Running back, I think we got one
- 4:29Speaker 6: guy that's going to be very, very popular and in
- 4:33Speaker 6: James Cook. Really good spot, I mean really good spot
- 4:35Speaker 6: for Buffalo overall. And if people aren't playing Josh Allen,
- 4:38Speaker 6: like their first clicker is probably going to be James Cook, Like,
- 4:41Speaker 6: give me some exposure to that Buffalo Buffalo offense. And
- 4:45Speaker 6: he's seventy eight hundred at home against Cincy. Their projected
- 4:49Speaker 6: to score like thirty. So he will be very popular.
- 4:53Speaker 5: And then we have a.
- 4:53Speaker 6: Lot of i'd say relatively solid plays after that. Josh
- 4:58Speaker 6: Jacobs is underpriced, I think sixty eight hundred. And then
- 5:03Speaker 6: we talked about on the Cas Show a little bit.
- 5:04Speaker 6: Bucky Irving came back and kind of got a majority
- 5:07Speaker 6: of the work. Seven k they're favored by eight and
- 5:09Speaker 6: a half. Got titles Boy Buckkins back in the bet
- 5:13Speaker 6: in the mix here, favorite at home. Anytime Buckkins is
- 5:16Speaker 6: favorite at home, people want to play them. Sixty four hundred,
- 5:19Speaker 6: he's going to be owned. I think the spends at
- 5:22Speaker 6: running back have a chance to come in pretty low owned.
- 5:25Speaker 5: Outside of James Cook.
- 5:26Speaker 6: Like Jonathan Taylor, people aren't going to be all that
- 5:29Speaker 6: excited to play him in Bijon, although it does look
- 5:32Speaker 6: like a Chan is gonna get a decent, decent bit.
- 5:35Speaker 6: But yeah, we have plays at running back, but it
- 5:38Speaker 6: starts with James Cook. Wide receivers been the same. It
- 5:42Speaker 6: seems like all season where you get like those two
- 5:44Speaker 6: or three guys up top, JSN Puka and we have
- 5:47Speaker 6: Jamar Chase today and then we have a bunch of
- 5:50Speaker 6: like you know, low six K guys, a lot of
- 5:52Speaker 6: mid five K guys and play Michael Wilson is definitely
- 5:56Speaker 6: going to be very popular. I got the news that
- 5:58Speaker 6: Marvin Harrison Junior was rolled out really cheap on FanDuel again,
- 6:03Speaker 6: talked about it on the Cash Show. But fifty seven
- 6:05Speaker 6: hundred is a miss price for Michael Wilson over on FanDuel.
- 6:09Speaker 6: Fifty six on DK is still too low, and he's
- 6:12Speaker 6: going to get a lot of ownership with the fifty
- 6:15Speaker 6: seven on FanDuel. It's an absolute joke. So kind of
- 6:18Speaker 6: a similar position that we've seen a majority of the season.
- 6:22Speaker 6: But those guys at the top aren't getting a ton
- 6:25Speaker 6: I mean, I think they're all probably you know, no
- 6:28Speaker 6: one's gonna get higher.
- 6:29Speaker 5: Than like twenty two ish percent, so you can definitely.
- 6:32Speaker 6: Make a move there. Then tight end pretty similar to
- 6:35Speaker 6: what we've seen recently. They finally got mcbrideway up there
- 6:38Speaker 6: at a K down to Bowers, down to Tyler Warren
- 6:42Speaker 6: and then there's like six cheap guys that people are
- 6:45Speaker 6: gonna play, and you're gonna see a lot of double
- 6:47Speaker 6: tight end today for sure, just because of the way
- 6:49Speaker 6: it works out with you play two of these cheap
- 6:51Speaker 6: tight ends can.
- 6:52Speaker 5: Really load up your lineup.
- 6:54Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a solid slite and looking forward to
- 6:58Speaker 6: get your guys' opinions on it all.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Yeah, great breakdown as usual title. I'll kick it over
- 7:02Speaker 3: to you sort of run through just the weather side
- 7:04Speaker 3: of things and all some of the stuff. It feels
- 7:05Speaker 3: like a radar check up to lock might be even
- 7:07Speaker 3: be the case. I know what the Jacksonville situation. People
- 7:10Speaker 3: are really focused on that one, some of the colder
- 7:12Speaker 3: weather games things like that. But one thing I saw
- 7:14Speaker 3: yesterday just looking is like when people are talking about
- 7:17Speaker 3: the cold weather games, like, I don't think the Chicago
- 7:19Speaker 3: Bears are gonna have too much of a hard time
- 7:22Speaker 3: going into Green Bay to play in Lambeau and Nora
- 7:24Speaker 3: is green Bay gonna have a hard time playing at
- 7:26Speaker 3: home when they know what the weather is. But obviously
- 7:28Speaker 3: for the totals and the spreads and things like that,
- 7:30Speaker 3: sometimes that affects it more. What do you got for
- 7:32Speaker 3: weather that stands out? And then we'll hop into the
- 7:34Speaker 3: first game and get get to it.
- 7:36Speaker 4: Yeah, again, just always looking at ross weather report for
- 7:38Speaker 4: worst game is orange. Like you mentioned the Jacksonville indie game.
- 7:42Speaker 4: He said it might pour all games, So we're gonna
- 7:44Speaker 4: have to be looking up until Locke about like what
- 7:47Speaker 4: the rain is if it's raining all games pretty heavily. Yeah,
- 7:50Speaker 4: that's a little concerning for the passing attack, but again
- 7:53Speaker 4: most of it are all baked into projections into props.
- 7:57Speaker 4: But that's the worst game of the slates. After that,
- 7:59Speaker 4: there's two games are yellow orange, And when it's yellow orange,
- 8:02Speaker 4: that is like less of an impact than orange yellow.
- 8:05Speaker 4: So just keep that to note. But what snow game
- 8:08Speaker 4: in Cleveland. He expects it to be falling a decent amount,
- 8:11Speaker 4: winds around ten miles an hour snow doesn't really do
- 8:14Speaker 4: much ten miles an hour wins cold. That doesn't seem
- 8:17Speaker 4: too concerning to me. And since the Buffalo pretty much
- 8:20Speaker 4: seems copy and paste some snow, there, winds not terrible
- 8:23Speaker 4: in Buffalo. Yeah, I'm not worried about snow. A rain
- 8:26Speaker 4: a little more worry some, and then high winds worry some.
- 8:29Speaker 4: But what are we seeing that Jacksonville total sitting.
- 8:32Speaker 2: At right now looks like forty forty five and a half.
- 8:35Speaker 5: It's come down like two.
- 8:37Speaker 6: It opened forty seven and a half forty eight, so
- 8:40Speaker 6: it definitely has has come down.
- 8:42Speaker 4: So definitely a slight dock. But again, projections are showing
- 8:45Speaker 4: that if it was still at forty seven and a
- 8:47Speaker 4: half forty eight with no weather, you would see a
- 8:49Speaker 4: higher projections at most of that game. So keep that note.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed there.
- 8:53Speaker 3: That's the key component for those that don't follow or
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- 9:01Speaker 2: But I would just.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Say it's all it's all baked in, like Hoop said,
- 9:04Speaker 3: it came down a point or two, but it's not going.
- 9:07Speaker 3: It hasn't dropped to like forty versus you go to
- 9:09Speaker 3: like the Cleveland game, which you mentioned, which already is
- 9:12Speaker 3: two really tricky offenses there. We've got Cleveland versus the Titans,
- 9:16Speaker 3: and it went from forty one and a half down
- 9:18Speaker 3: to the current of I mean I'm seeing as low
- 9:20Speaker 3: as thirty three and a half in some places, So
- 9:22Speaker 3: talk about a massive drop off there.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Again, that's baked in as well.
- 9:27Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the total in Cleveland is funny. Thirty
- 9:30Speaker 4: three and a half is something you don't see very often.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Yeah, still frozen, chilling in the lot, says Guy Ryan. Yeah,
- 9:36Speaker 3: oh yeah, it's an interesting slate. It's gonna be fun.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Let's get it started, Hoop, I'll kick it to you
- 9:40Speaker 3: for the first game Seahawks at Atlanta. This is interesting
- 9:43Speaker 3: because again not the biggest total, but the Seahawks don't
- 9:46Speaker 3: have a bad total on the road. We are going
- 9:48Speaker 3: into Atlanta indoors, I mean on a state like this,
- 9:50Speaker 3: eleven games, it's in the early going.
- 9:52Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on this one?
- 9:54Speaker 5: Uh, I will say I just touched on that Cleveland game.
- 9:57Speaker 6: It could be like seventy five, and Sonny with no
- 10:00Speaker 6: precipitation in that total is probably sitting at thirty four
- 10:03Speaker 6: thirty five.
- 10:04Speaker 2: It open higher because it's some of the weather, but
- 10:06Speaker 2: it's too terrible.
- 10:07Speaker 5: I think it open higher than got beat down immediately.
- 10:09Speaker 5: I don't think it was a factor of the weather.
- 10:11Speaker 6: I think it was a factor of these two shitty,
- 10:13Speaker 6: shitty offenses.
- 10:14Speaker 2: We'll talk about that game we get there, because I
- 10:16Speaker 2: think that you're right about that for sure, but there's
- 10:18Speaker 2: a expensive, popular defense in that game for sure.
- 10:22Speaker 6: Yeah, So the Seahawks Atlanta game, I'll start with Atlanta
- 10:27Speaker 6: just because I'm just not ever going to stack the
- 10:30Speaker 6: Falcons for the rest of the season with with Kirk
- 10:31Speaker 6: Cousins at quarterback, So for me, it's just going to
- 10:34Speaker 6: be individual pieces or.
- 10:35Speaker 5: Secondary sort of decks.
- 10:38Speaker 6: Bijon is probably going to be less than ten percent owned.
- 10:43Speaker 6: It's a tough matchup against Seattle, but man, he's he's
- 10:46Speaker 6: good at He's capable of beating good defenses. So I
- 10:50Speaker 6: definitely want some in my one fifty. The past catchers,
- 10:53Speaker 6: it's tough, you know, maybe some Mooney definitely not prioritizing him.
- 10:57Speaker 5: And then I think Kyle Kitts is fine. I believe
- 11:00Speaker 5: it was talked about on the Cash Show.
- 11:02Speaker 6: I think it was like eight or nine targets for Pits,
- 11:05Speaker 6: and you know, that's what you're gonna get with a
- 11:06Speaker 6: quarterback like Kirk Cousins throwing the ball. I mean, he
- 11:09Speaker 6: doesn't have the arm strength to really get it down
- 11:11Speaker 6: the field. It's gonna be a lot of you know,
- 11:13Speaker 6: short pattern stuff, a lot of check down sort of situations.
- 11:17Speaker 6: So that's why it's like it's bijon in Pits and
- 11:20Speaker 6: pretty much it on the Seattle side. I think it's
- 11:23Speaker 6: a relatively good spot for them. You know, JSN coming
- 11:27Speaker 6: in probably a little lower on than those other guys,
- 11:29Speaker 6: just because those games look more appealing. People are gonna
- 11:31Speaker 6: be more on Pooka, people are gonna be more on
- 11:33Speaker 6: probably Jamar Chase. So I think JSN comes in third
- 11:38Speaker 6: in terms of wide receiver spends, and to me, he's
- 11:41Speaker 6: he's definitely a fine option. Again if if you're building
- 11:43Speaker 6: a lot of teams like you just gotta include these
- 11:45Speaker 6: high volume plays in some capacity. So probably overweight for
- 11:50Speaker 6: me on JSN. I think Barner. This Barner guy's been solid.
- 11:53Speaker 6: You can put him into that mix. Of you know,
- 11:57Speaker 6: I'm not gonna start with six seven. I'm gonna say
- 11:59Speaker 6: seven or eight cheap tight ends that they can potentially play.
- 12:03Speaker 6: He's in that mix at thirty two. And then Kenneth
- 12:06Speaker 6: Walker is fine, he'll get some ownership. We did see
- 12:09Speaker 6: it last week though, you know, Kenneth Walker with the
- 12:11Speaker 6: big time ownership, and then charbon Ay marches his ass
- 12:15Speaker 6: right to the end zone.
- 12:16Speaker 5: You know, I will have some Sam Donald too.
- 12:19Speaker 6: I mean, I'm probably spreading it out quite a bit
- 12:21Speaker 6: of quarterback today, so I will have a little bit.
- 12:24Speaker 5: Of Donald in there with, you know, primarily Jasien and Burner.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:28Speaker 3: The thing about Sharbonay was like the very end of
- 12:30Speaker 3: the game too, which hurt even more because they can't.
- 12:31Speaker 3: I just get like Walker felt like he did everything
- 12:33Speaker 3: to go with it. So we'll get to that Browns
- 12:35Speaker 3: game in a bit. But clearly a Browns maybe a
- 12:37Speaker 3: Browns Pats fan a mixture, grew up as a Pats fan,
- 12:40Speaker 3: became a Browns or vice versa, and finally switched gears
- 12:42Speaker 3: and went to the Pats. But it says small difference
- 12:44Speaker 3: between the Cleveland and Buffalo game is that the is
- 12:46Speaker 3: that Cleveland heats its field, so there won't be snow
- 12:48Speaker 3: accumulation where Buffalo doesn't, so snow accumulates on that field.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Not that it really matters though, you know, he just
- 12:54Speaker 2: he knows that those squad right after the fact, not
- 12:56Speaker 2: that that really matters. It's all put in there title.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I don't know. This game is somewhat interesting.
- 13:01Speaker 3: JSN definitely going overlooked versus what he has in the past.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I mean, at nine k if he ends up twelve
- 13:06Speaker 3: to fifteen percent, it won't surprise me.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Right now, we've got them a little higher.
- 13:09Speaker 3: I think it's going to be closer to that twelve
- 13:11Speaker 3: to fifteen range, just because you can think about the Pookahs,
- 13:13Speaker 3: the a Chans, the Cooks, the Jamar Chase like anybody else.
- 13:17Speaker 3: It seems like that's where people want to go. I
- 13:18Speaker 3: will say, though, even with ownership at least Kyle Pitts
- 13:22Speaker 3: at forty two hundred, since Kirk Cousins came into the fold,
- 13:25Speaker 3: and with no London at least getting the targets, the
- 13:28Speaker 3: props are really strong. You know, you look at a
- 13:29Speaker 3: ton of that stuff. Obviously that can be more median
- 13:32Speaker 3: than ceiling. But you know, we're waiting for an opportunity
- 13:34Speaker 3: to see a bit more, but still pretty solid as
- 13:36Speaker 3: of late.
- 13:36Speaker 2: What do you think of this game?
- 13:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean fifty three and a half receiving prop
- 13:39Speaker 4: from like We're gonna go to the next game. Buka's
- 13:42Speaker 4: at fifty four and a half, so just wild when
- 13:44Speaker 4: you compare something like that. But that being said, I
- 13:46Speaker 4: think he is clearly the chalkiest tight end on the
- 13:49Speaker 4: slate and everything does get spread out, but that's both sides.
- 13:52Speaker 4: Fandal has a good price tag as well. It's still
- 13:54Speaker 4: is Kirk Cousins throwing the ball. I don't think I
- 13:57Speaker 4: really want to play Pits stuff as much if I'm
- 13:59Speaker 4: not playing Seahawks stuff, like I like Kenneth Walker, I
- 14:02Speaker 4: like JSN, I think I like Barner, so I do
- 14:05Speaker 4: want a decent amount of this game, But if I
- 14:07Speaker 4: have no Seattle stuff, I probably don't really want Pits.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Pits fits a lot better as a runback for me
- 14:13Speaker 4: when I do play one of those guys Jsn's prop
- 14:16Speaker 4: I mean ninety four and a half minus one ten
- 14:19Speaker 4: to score. It looks so good and coming off of
- 14:21Speaker 4: the worst possible game, and it wasn't just because of him.
- 14:24Speaker 4: Brian Flores does a great job trying to take away
- 14:26Speaker 4: the best player, and we talked about it, but that
- 14:29Speaker 4: Brasman guy or the quarterback like it was a three
- 14:31Speaker 4: to nothing game and the underhands a pick six for
- 14:34Speaker 4: the Seahawks at the three yard line. So they drive
- 14:36Speaker 4: all the way down and take off what six minutes
- 14:39Speaker 4: pick six and then their vikings get the ball right
- 14:41Speaker 4: back and they just didn't need JSN all games. So
- 14:45Speaker 4: he ran as bad as possible at the variance inside
- 14:47Speaker 4: a variants in football. But if it's not like that
- 14:50Speaker 4: and it's a normal game, I mean what they had
- 14:52Speaker 4: two defensive touchdowns the week prior or something like that too.
- 14:55Speaker 4: Give JSN a normal game where their offense is on
- 14:57Speaker 4: the field. He could have the same games like the
- 15:00Speaker 4: tight and stuff. So I hope he moon walks back
- 15:02Speaker 4: to the twelve percent range. I love JSN up top.
- 15:05Speaker 4: We have enough value on the slate and people will
- 15:08Speaker 4: spend sometime for one receiver Pooka or that, but the
- 15:11Speaker 4: value is at the receiver position and tight end plenty
- 15:15Speaker 4: of cheap option. So he kind of flipped the bill there.
- 15:17Speaker 4: I don't mind the Donald skinny stack. He could go
- 15:19Speaker 4: for three hundred by himself. I think Barner is a
- 15:22Speaker 4: good tight end, and then the Sea or Kenneth Walker
- 15:25Speaker 4: they're implied for twenty six and a half points. They're
- 15:27Speaker 4: playing in the dome. I like the Seattle side a lot.
- 15:30Speaker 4: I think they move the ball pits is a runback.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I'm fine with b John's expensive. I can never say
- 15:35Speaker 4: no to him. I do prefer other spends, though, But JSN, Walker, Barner,
- 15:41Speaker 4: maybe some Darnald. I love the Seahawks today.
- 15:44Speaker 2: And the chat sitting is up. They want me to
- 15:45Speaker 2: switch the hat. I can't.
- 15:46Speaker 3: I got the Millimaker monks dash. I'm already contrariing as
- 15:49Speaker 3: it is. I even trim this baby up.
- 15:51Speaker 2: I got my closest run at the milli as in
- 15:54Speaker 2: recent years, at least last week. So hopefully we can
- 15:57Speaker 2: keep the momentum going and finish the job today. But
- 15:59Speaker 2: a nice and I thought title. You did an excellent job.
- 16:02Speaker 3: Adding on to that the JSN stuff, I think it
- 16:04Speaker 3: all depends on the lineup at hand, because for as
- 16:06Speaker 3: good as those props are, I mean, when you get
- 16:08Speaker 3: that's where this all stems from.
- 16:10Speaker 2: When you get to James Cook.
- 16:11Speaker 3: With a ninety nine and a half just on the
- 16:13Speaker 3: ground plus receiving plus minus two hundred or something for
- 16:16Speaker 3: a Touchdo're like, well, that takes up seventy eight hundred.
- 16:19Speaker 2: That might again, you can play them both.
- 16:20Speaker 3: I'm just saying those little things are what people don't
- 16:22Speaker 3: spend enough time on.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Probably. I think Kenneth Walker.
- 16:25Speaker 3: And Pits together is still pretty interesting, even though they're
- 16:28Speaker 3: both gonna have somewhat ownership that like a somewhat higher ownership.
- 16:32Speaker 2: I do think it's still interesting, just something.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Along those lines to put it together, because if you
- 16:36Speaker 3: look at like Walker and Pits indoors in a back
- 16:40Speaker 3: and forth with a total like this and everything that's
- 16:42Speaker 3: going on versus kind of like a Loveland Jacobs or something,
- 16:45Speaker 3: or like a you know, the same position even and
- 16:47Speaker 3: I know Luther Burden, the third will be higher. I'm
- 16:49Speaker 3: just trying to give similar price points. It's like that
- 16:51Speaker 3: might not be how that shakes out. We'll talk about
- 16:53Speaker 3: that later.
- 16:54Speaker 2: But like little things like that that I would look
- 16:55Speaker 2: at within roster construction as a whole. I don't have
- 16:58Speaker 2: too much else.
- 16:59Speaker 3: To add here. The other thing about the you know
- 17:02Speaker 3: Max is a bro brosmer. You know that guy just
- 17:04Speaker 3: throwing the underhand was so brutal. But at the same time,
- 17:07Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know if the again Kurt Will
- 17:10Speaker 3: Cousins be better than that. Yes, you know, the undrafted
- 17:12Speaker 3: free agent quarterback, but I don't know if the Seahawks
- 17:15Speaker 3: will have a different game script beyond that, because they
- 17:17Speaker 3: just keep getting these sort of matchups they can tee
- 17:19Speaker 3: off on. And we've all three of us talked about
- 17:22Speaker 3: here on this show plenty of times how Cousins is
- 17:24Speaker 3: just an absolute statue and then especially worse with no
- 17:28Speaker 3: London back to it again no London. So yeah, I'll
- 17:31Speaker 3: be an interesting game to kick off the slide. I
- 17:32Speaker 3: think it could have some implications for sure. Stay with
- 17:35Speaker 3: you title here. Let's go to the AFC North Battle.
- 17:37Speaker 3: We'll go to the Steelers at the ravens Lamar Jackson.
- 17:41Speaker 3: One thing I'll say out the top, ownership does not exist.
- 17:45Speaker 3: De Hember is in full effect. We're kicking this baby off.
- 17:47Speaker 3: It is a great matchup. We just said speaking of
- 17:50Speaker 3: James Cook. Just saw James Cook run over these Steelers.
- 17:52Speaker 3: But why does nobody want Dereck Henry this week at
- 17:55Speaker 3: seventy five hundred bucks, who's also happens to be a
- 17:57Speaker 3: pivot or play them together with James Cook.
- 18:00Speaker 2: But he's right there three in the bucks less.
- 18:02Speaker 4: I mean it feels to me like he's lost a
- 18:04Speaker 4: little bit of a step. But if you actually want
- 18:06Speaker 4: to know the real answer, like why is he not
- 18:08Speaker 4: playing we play DFS, who's in his range? Three hundred
- 18:11Speaker 4: more is James Cook? Five hundred less as Bucky? Seven
- 18:14Speaker 4: hundred less is Jet Josh Jacobs if you want to
- 18:16Speaker 4: go eight chan for more and stuff like that.
- 18:18Speaker 5: He's just in a range where it's really hard to click.
- 18:21Speaker 4: But I mean that's good for DFS if you play
- 18:23Speaker 4: top heavy tournaments, exponential payout structures when you win how much. Yeah,
- 18:27Speaker 4: he's a pivot in that range for sure. With that
- 18:30Speaker 4: being said, I don't think I'll be the one clicking
- 18:32Speaker 4: the name. I don't think see myself really clicking any
- 18:34Speaker 4: name in this game. I've been really disappointed in Lamar
- 18:38Speaker 4: in the Ravens offense. I just got to see it first.
- 18:41Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, if you're early to it, no
- 18:43Speaker 4: one is going to play it. But just a division
- 18:45Speaker 4: game seems like it's always slower. I haven't liked with
- 18:49Speaker 4: the what I've seen with the Ravens. Surely haven't seen
- 18:51Speaker 4: what I've liked, or I surely haven't liked what I've
- 18:53Speaker 4: seen with the Steelers offense either. If I play anyone,
- 18:57Speaker 4: it's probably just DK Metcalf. The price stays really cheat
- 19:00Speaker 4: Rogers loves them. I just don't like this game. The
- 19:03Speaker 4: eleven games on the slate one of my least favor
- 19:05Speaker 4: I think.
- 19:05Speaker 2: There's some interesting stuff here, Hoop.
- 19:07Speaker 3: I think if you want to play Lamar Jackson passing
- 19:10Speaker 3: stacks with James Cook, that's a way to flip that
- 19:13Speaker 3: on its head, because you're not going to Derek Henon
- 19:15Speaker 3: out that he has ownership.
- 19:16Speaker 2: I'm just saying it be a way to flip it around.
- 19:17Speaker 3: But also, when we get to the Josh Allen stacks
- 19:20Speaker 3: later throw, why not throw Derrick Henry into it and
- 19:22Speaker 3: double down that way where it's like you're you're leveraging
- 19:25Speaker 3: James Cook, but then you're also putting Derrick Henry into
- 19:28Speaker 3: the spot that would usually fit James Cook.
- 19:31Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think there's something here.
- 19:32Speaker 3: It's definitely not everybody's favorite matchup, but why wouldn't Lamar
- 19:36Speaker 3: just come in and finally do something when nobody's on them.
- 19:38Speaker 3: There's a guy you'll love later hoop that I've got
- 19:40Speaker 3: for that scenario too. But what do you think of
- 19:41Speaker 3: this one here, Ravens at home versus the Steelers.
- 19:44Speaker 6: Yeah, I think everyone's just down on this Ravens offense.
- 19:47Speaker 6: And I mean really for the obvious reasons. They've looked
- 19:50Speaker 6: like absolute shit. Lamar Jackson has not looked like himself.
- 19:54Speaker 6: It's very obvious. Derrick Henry has not looked like himself.
- 19:58Speaker 6: But they're coming in like no ownership, like whatsoever. It's
- 20:02Speaker 6: a pretty good matchup. It's at home, They've had extra time.
- 20:06Speaker 6: I mean, this is what there is. This their first
- 20:08Speaker 6: game since Thanksgiving. Uh, so they're gonna be ready to
- 20:11Speaker 6: roll here. They're still in first place in the division,
- 20:14Speaker 6: so this is really a very important game. I'm gonna
- 20:17Speaker 6: have some in my one to fifty. I will admit though,
- 20:19Speaker 6: like if you're handbuilding, if you're building like a couple
- 20:22Speaker 6: teams or three teams, it's very tough to click anybody
- 20:26Speaker 6: in this offense. But for you know, full on m me,
- 20:29Speaker 6: you're looking at what maybe five percent Deeric Henry three percent,
- 20:34Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson five percent, Zay Flowers Andrews.
- 20:38Speaker 5: Likely.
- 20:40Speaker 6: The nice thing is if they do get it going
- 20:43Speaker 6: like you know where it's coming from, so it makes
- 20:46Speaker 6: it easy in that aspect, Like so if you're gonna
- 20:50Speaker 6: bet on them turning it around, you know where it
- 20:53Speaker 6: typically comes from. So I have some in my one
- 20:56Speaker 6: fifty fine with it, not gonna go crazy, and then
- 20:59Speaker 6: just pretty much DK metcalf on the other side for me,
- 21:02Speaker 6: nothing else.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have a little bit. The chat brought
- 21:06Speaker 2: it up.
- 21:06Speaker 3: I definitely think zay Flowers going completely overlooked at eighty
- 21:09Speaker 3: one hundred. I mean at sixty one hundred, this could
- 21:10Speaker 3: be a spot whereas I'll stay with eighty one. Got
- 21:12Speaker 3: eighty one yards in the first first half, and you know,
- 21:15Speaker 3: there you go and you're like, oh man, I could
- 21:16Speaker 3: I should have got some Zay Flowers. He's definitely gonna
- 21:18Speaker 3: be overlooked in that range, and he could just be
- 21:21Speaker 3: played as a one off.
- 21:21Speaker 2: That's the thing when you don't when you have a.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Stack that's not popular at all, you don't have to
- 21:26Speaker 3: fully commit to everything because it's like Zay Flowers is
- 21:28Speaker 3: a great one off, so but he he has a
- 21:30Speaker 3: ceiling game. Actually you don't know, like he could have
- 21:32Speaker 3: seven for one, ten and one, and that doesn't mean
- 21:34Speaker 3: that almost seven thousand dollars. Lamar got there just it's
- 21:36Speaker 3: a great one off option. So I'd be fine with
- 21:39Speaker 3: Zay on his own as well. All right, who I'm
- 21:42Speaker 3: gonna stay with you. We got to this, you know,
- 21:45Speaker 3: Titans Browns game. We made fun of it a little
- 21:46Speaker 3: bit earlier. People are talking about Sander's gonna make the
- 21:49Speaker 3: Titans pay.
- 21:50Speaker 2: For not picking him, Like, yeah, I don't, I don't
- 21:52Speaker 2: know what that but is he what's what's that one is?
- 21:55Speaker 6: I'm picking him in the third like they could say
- 22:00Speaker 6: about every team in the NFL.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Now, yeah, everyone denied his ass forever and so that's cool. Yeah,
- 22:07Speaker 2: I think that's a good point too.
- 22:08Speaker 3: Judkins here, I don't know, like you said, the total
- 22:10Speaker 3: has come down quite a bit though, but most.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Certainly the Browns at thirty seven hundred. You know, people
- 22:15Speaker 2: make fun of it. Blicklinn. I talked about yesterday on
- 22:18Speaker 2: Leverage Lane.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Like the last week, everyone was madden up in arms
- 22:21Speaker 3: again about the Seahawks. It's like they were literally playing
- 22:24Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent. Like if you get thirty, that
- 22:27Speaker 3: is variance. You're right, you don't expect thirty, but you know,
- 22:30Speaker 3: it's a good spot and that's why the ownership went there.
- 22:32Speaker 2: I think we know why the ownership is here. Do
- 22:34Speaker 2: you have other stuff within this game or do you
- 22:35Speaker 2: want to comment on any of that?
- 22:37Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they're in a really good spot defensively, And Tyler,
- 22:40Speaker 6: you talked about a little bit too kind of not
- 22:42Speaker 6: prioritizing but putting in a little more work, you know,
- 22:45Speaker 6: checking out your defenses to see what you have because
- 22:48Speaker 6: it can be a huge difference maker. And I mean
- 22:51Speaker 6: you can't get mad about the spots like last week.
- 22:53Speaker 6: I mean that was a phenomenal, phenomenal spot the Seahawks
- 22:56Speaker 6: facing a dude at quarterback that nobody has ever heard
- 22:59Speaker 6: of it before, and their defense is good. So like
- 23:02Speaker 6: that's the stuff you can't get mad about. Like when
- 23:04Speaker 6: the I don't know, the Rams are playing the Bengals
- 23:08Speaker 6: or something and the.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Titans are playing the Chargers and they get well.
- 23:11Speaker 6: That's the stuff you can get pissed off about and say,
- 23:14Speaker 6: fuck the defenses, let's get rid of the defenses. But
- 23:16Speaker 6: when Seattle Nuke's Browsmer or whatever the fuck his name is,
- 23:21Speaker 6: that shit.
- 23:21Speaker 5: You can't get mad about.
- 23:23Speaker 6: But this could be one of those spots because the
- 23:25Speaker 6: Titans are projected to score fourteen and a half and
- 23:29Speaker 6: the Browns are projected to score nineteen. Both defenses in
- 23:32Speaker 6: play here, So if one of these defenses go off
- 23:35Speaker 6: like you definitely can't be mad about it because it's
- 23:37Speaker 6: a really good spot for both of them, throwing the
- 23:40Speaker 6: weather element as well all of a lot of both
- 23:43Speaker 6: these defenses. I'll play some titles boy Buckkins at sixty
- 23:47Speaker 6: four hundred.
- 23:48Speaker 5: You compare them with the defense if you want.
- 23:50Speaker 6: And then this fan and guy at tight end has
- 23:53Speaker 6: kind of been coming on at thirty seven. I don't
- 23:56Speaker 6: see myself really getting into any of the Titans stuff though,
- 23:59Speaker 6: So it's about it here.
- 24:01Speaker 5: All right.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Well this is the one then titled this is insane
- 24:04Speaker 3: to me, and again no one, I don't think anyone's
- 24:05Speaker 3: playing it.
- 24:06Speaker 2: We'll see if they are.
- 24:06Speaker 3: But the best way to cut into the Browns d
- 24:09Speaker 3: is by far to play Judkins.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says. The matchup was good.
- 24:12Speaker 3: Do you look at his props ninety and a half
- 24:14Speaker 3: all purpose minus one fifteen I see for a touchdown
- 24:18Speaker 3: and he's got a twenty one and a half rush
- 24:20Speaker 3: attempts juice to the to the other side, like at
- 24:23Speaker 3: least he's.
- 24:23Speaker 6: Gonna he's gonna rush it twenty five times for about
- 24:26Speaker 6: ninety five yards, and then it's just a batter of fall.
- 24:29Speaker 5: In yes, yes, does he get it?
- 24:31Speaker 2: That's don't say fall in the box, can't say fall
- 24:34Speaker 2: in the box?
- 24:35Speaker 5: Does he crossed the goal line?
- 24:38Speaker 2: Yeah? Will he crossed the plane today? We will find out.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Maybe twice, but definitely a good way to cut into it.
- 24:43Speaker 3: And again it's this to me title is a primary
- 24:47Speaker 3: example of kind of like even the the Derrick Henry
- 24:49Speaker 3: thing up above, where it's like he says, we play
- 24:50Speaker 3: DFS and look at the price point that he falls
- 24:53Speaker 3: in at it's sixty four hundred. Maybe that's it's not
- 24:55Speaker 3: falls in the box at but look at the price
- 24:57Speaker 3: point that he falls in at is sixty four hundred.
- 25:00Speaker 2: There's just so many other options in that range. I
- 25:01Speaker 2: think people would land on first. So we'll see.
- 25:04Speaker 3: But I've definitely got some combo packs of Judkins with
- 25:07Speaker 3: the Browns d What else are you thinking? If anything
- 25:09Speaker 3: within this game?
- 25:10Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure. Really just that Titans defense I'm
- 25:13Speaker 4: fine with for cheap fan, and I guess I'm fine
- 25:15Speaker 4: with two. My question is to you guys. Well, I
- 25:18Speaker 4: will say, but we were joking with Shador. I mean,
- 25:20Speaker 4: I think he's better than Gabriel and I think he's
- 25:22Speaker 4: better than Deshaun Watson whatever in the world. The Browns
- 25:25Speaker 4: are thinking of potentially naming him the starter next year.
- 25:28Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine being a fan of that franchise. But
- 25:31Speaker 4: Breese Hall or Judkins six y five, Breeze six or
- 25:36Speaker 4: four Juckkins if you had to pick which one, do you,
- 25:37Speaker 4: guys prefer?
- 25:39Speaker 5: Go ahead? I mean even really really need to.
- 25:45Speaker 4: He loves them because of what I had to do,
- 25:46Speaker 4: but he hates playing I played.
- 25:48Speaker 6: I will say I played him one time this year,
- 25:50Speaker 6: played him significantly one.
- 25:53Speaker 5: Yeah, and he did good.
- 25:54Speaker 4: He got like bailed out on like a two yard
- 25:56Speaker 4: turnover touchdown.
- 25:57Speaker 5: I like him, but man, that is out is a
- 26:00Speaker 5: tough click regard.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I just want to hear I who
- 26:04Speaker 2: had a good comment there? Any kind of did. But
- 26:05Speaker 2: it's like that, that's what I want to see. You
- 26:07Speaker 2: know who its side he's on. I don't.
- 26:09Speaker 3: I'm playing both for sure. I even have some lineups
- 26:11Speaker 3: with both of them together. But I just think if
- 26:12Speaker 3: you think about the majority, it's gonna be like, I
- 26:15Speaker 3: don't here's the thing, and we're gonna I'm not gonna
- 26:17Speaker 3: skip out of the game, but just the spot because
- 26:19Speaker 3: we're on it. And I had a good conversation with
- 26:22Speaker 3: Blickle about it yesterday too on Leverage Lane.
- 26:23Speaker 2: So I'll get your guys' thoughts.
- 26:25Speaker 3: Is like, if you're leaving it, you can't play every
- 26:27Speaker 3: game or every spot, like people try and do that,
- 26:29Speaker 3: and it just gets a bit ridiculous. And at the
- 26:30Speaker 3: end of the day, if you everyone for some reason
- 26:33Speaker 3: thinks you need one of Hall or a Chan, and
- 26:36Speaker 3: so when they can't get to a Chan, they just
- 26:38Speaker 3: fall to Hall. If they're on Haul, they're like, they're
- 26:40Speaker 3: not gonna go to Judkins. But then they're sitting there
- 26:42Speaker 3: with the Cleveland Browns defense, which could be the actual
- 26:46Speaker 3: defense that puts them in the spot, especially if it
- 26:48Speaker 3: is a little colder this that, and then maybe they
- 26:49Speaker 3: don't get all the way to the pick six and
- 26:52Speaker 3: they just get the pick and then the six comes
- 26:54Speaker 3: from Judkins. So that's kind of the thoughts I have
- 26:57Speaker 3: of situational stuff like that, where I don't think people
- 26:59Speaker 3: try put it together that way fully and they just
- 27:01Speaker 3: realize it after and like damn, I got haul and
- 27:04Speaker 3: Brown's I could have just had this and kind of
- 27:06Speaker 3: left that game out of it title. Do you have
- 27:08Speaker 3: any extra thoughts on like when we get I know
- 27:10Speaker 3: we're gonna get to that game soon anyway, but just
- 27:11Speaker 3: about like having to have one of those two it's
- 27:13Speaker 3: Miami and the Jets.
- 27:15Speaker 4: Yeah, and at the end of the day, like we're
- 27:17Speaker 4: talking eleven game main slate or ten game main slate,
- 27:19Speaker 4: there's so many we're not it's not NFL Showdown and
- 27:21Speaker 4: it's not NBA showed on MMA where we're talking a
- 27:25Speaker 4: limited player pool with only so many combinations, so you
- 27:28Speaker 4: don't need anybody. Ever, it's also a hard mouthed game.
- 27:31Speaker 4: I mean you can take one hit ceedee lamb. He
- 27:33Speaker 4: was on the slate to nuke. I mean one play,
- 27:35Speaker 4: he's out at the game, like, yeah, you never need anyone.
- 27:39Speaker 5: That definitely sucked. It changed changed everything, wasn't.
- 27:42Speaker 2: I didn't realize bad for.
- 27:45Speaker 4: So it wasn't bad for my FanDuel guy who shipped
- 27:48Speaker 4: my buddy who shipped a hundred game because of that floor.
- 27:50Speaker 2: That was a sick team too.
- 27:51Speaker 3: By the way, he had Gibbs up top talk about
- 27:55Speaker 3: a unique way to play Gibbs and it's a mainslat show.
- 27:57Speaker 3: Who cares good strategy for DFS, gonna be a Sunday
- 27:59Speaker 3: night football. Lot of stuff we'll talk about, but I
- 28:02Speaker 3: will say like that he had Gibbs up top Montgomery baits.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Then on the other side he had Aubrey with Dak
- 28:09Speaker 3: and it kind of landed you on floor Noy who
- 28:11Speaker 3: was like, if you're not gonna have Lamb, you're not
- 28:13Speaker 3: gonna have pickings, you can't afford them. Then you kind
- 28:15Speaker 3: of got to have something like that. And then the
- 28:17Speaker 3: way it's set up, it was perfect like that. That
- 28:19Speaker 3: was just an amazing lineup, A unique shipper for one
- 28:21Speaker 3: hundred k.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Love to see that. Congrats to him.
- 28:23Speaker 3: That was sick and it just said in your phone
- 28:25Speaker 3: whatever his name was, Poker Pro Poker table and just
- 28:29Speaker 3: been like, oh, you play for professional you just pick
- 28:31Speaker 3: his brain, right?
- 28:32Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
- 28:33Speaker 4: Ye? We go back and forth. He's been starting to
- 28:35Speaker 4: play more DFS because because I've been around, but really
- 28:38Speaker 4: sharp guy and when you win, how much do you win?
- 28:40Speaker 4: The line of feels gross, But yeah, I mean no
- 28:42Speaker 4: one else had it.
- 28:42Speaker 3: So you see him at a different table now when
- 28:44Speaker 3: you go in there, he's already mistakes or.
- 28:46Speaker 4: This dude already won like the state championship for like
- 28:49Speaker 4: five hundred K.
- 28:49Speaker 5: This dude's a crusher, So.
- 28:51Speaker 2: That right, it tends to be that way. Lots of
- 28:53Speaker 2: really good poker players come over it and understand the
- 28:55Speaker 2: concepts and theories behind dfs quite well and are able
- 28:57Speaker 2: to put it together.
- 28:58Speaker 3: So all right, title, I'll stay with you. This is
- 29:01Speaker 3: a weather game here, and I mean it's a hoopster thing.
- 29:04Speaker 3: But I'll bring up we've all talked about it for sure,
- 29:06Speaker 3: is like, if Brian Thomas is ever gonna have a
- 29:08Speaker 3: good game, is this gonna be it?
- 29:10Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 29:11Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see. But what's your thoughts
- 29:12Speaker 2: on this one?
- 29:13Speaker 5: Here?
- 29:13Speaker 2: With the weather thoughts included Jags at home versus the Colts.
- 29:17Speaker 4: I'm definitely not trying the Brian Thomas experiment. I mean,
- 29:19Speaker 4: Breton Strange and Jacoby Meyers seem like one and two
- 29:23Speaker 4: on this team, and yeah, I mean I'll play them
- 29:25Speaker 4: like they're one and two. Strange is probably my favorite
- 29:28Speaker 4: play in this game. I would say Strange and Tyler Warren.
- 29:31Speaker 4: I think the two tight ends are my favorites. I
- 29:34Speaker 4: am a little worried about the weather. The totals come
- 29:36Speaker 4: down a little bit, I don't I can just see
- 29:39Speaker 4: it being more slow paced. At the end of the day.
- 29:41Speaker 4: The Jags are a run first team with two solid
- 29:43Speaker 4: running backs, and the Colts have JT with a guy
- 29:46Speaker 4: with a fractured fibula playing quarterback, so I very like
- 29:50Speaker 4: I think it can slow down a lot. It can
- 29:52Speaker 4: be on the ground, play action stuff. There's just a
- 29:55Speaker 4: lot of other game environments I prefer more so. I
- 29:57Speaker 4: don't think I'm gonna stack this game up much, but
- 30:00Speaker 4: individual pieces. Warren Strange fine with Jacoby, and then JT
- 30:05Speaker 4: is the one I've been going back and forth on
- 30:07Speaker 4: because he just can't be played. Three and nine to
- 30:10Speaker 4: eight on FANDUL like those are both fine price takes
- 30:13Speaker 4: for Jonathan Taylor, who will not come off the field
- 30:15Speaker 4: at all. Props on Taylor are fine minus two o
- 30:18Speaker 4: five to score like they're good, but for the price
- 30:21Speaker 4: they're fine minus two five to score ninety one and
- 30:24Speaker 4: half on the ground. But there's other running backs with
- 30:27Speaker 4: better props for the price. To be honest, I don't
- 30:30Speaker 4: think I'm really gonna get here too much. I think
- 30:32Speaker 4: I'm gonna play Strange and Warren as my favorites, and
- 30:35Speaker 4: not too much after that a majority of lineups. I'm
- 30:38Speaker 4: a little worried about the pace of the game in
- 30:40Speaker 4: the weather.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Will you ever text me back?
- 30:43Speaker 5: Or no?
- 30:44Speaker 4: No, No one ever gets a text back under ninety
- 30:48Speaker 4: four unread messages is what they're joking about. Don't got
- 30:51Speaker 4: time to click through all those?
- 30:52Speaker 2: Why you just mark them all as red then at
- 30:54Speaker 2: least the same?
- 30:56Speaker 4: How do you do that? Do you have to like
- 30:57Speaker 4: individually click?
- 30:59Speaker 3: I actually don't know, because are already cleaned up, so
- 31:01Speaker 3: you know me, I organized, I am, that's just been gone.
- 31:03Speaker 2: But I don't know.
- 31:06Speaker 4: I am the opposite of mo Yeah, and a lot
- 31:08Speaker 4: of people don't know at the end of the day.
- 31:10Speaker 4: So many little things just don't matter to that in
- 31:12Speaker 4: life for me like it. I don't care if like
- 31:14Speaker 4: all that stuff. I just go about my day and
- 31:17Speaker 4: I click the messages.
- 31:19Speaker 3: I think got a got a manscaped lawnmowre or four
- 31:22Speaker 3: point zero? I no bush on my my green unit
- 31:24Speaker 3: on there. It's just trimmed right up, completely raw, ready
- 31:27Speaker 3: to roll.
- 31:28Speaker 4: Who what about you?
- 31:31Speaker 5: I'm somewhere in the middle.
- 31:32Speaker 6: I definitely read all the text messages, but like emails,
- 31:35Speaker 6: I have like fifty thousand emails sitting here on read
- 31:39Speaker 6: I have a lot of I have a lot of
- 31:41Speaker 6: red dots on my phone. The kids use sports chat
- 31:47Speaker 6: thirty four sitting there discord, I have.
- 31:50Speaker 4: I got seven seventy seven right now.
- 31:53Speaker 5: Yeah, see, hey, yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 6: I keep the I keep the text messages right, and
- 31:58Speaker 6: I think there is a way that you can mark
- 32:00Speaker 6: them all at once. I'm fairly certain you can do.
- 32:03Speaker 6: Like select messages.
- 32:04Speaker 4: You have to select we you have to then go
- 32:06Speaker 4: and click each and everything as you scroll down, like.
- 32:09Speaker 6: Once you get behind if you got to go through
- 32:11Speaker 6: that process, yeah, I we'll just leave it, for sure.
- 32:13Speaker 6: But I guess I guess I'm somewhere in the middle
- 32:15Speaker 6: for sure. But I do keep the tucks pretty clean.
- 32:17Speaker 4: But I saw that this is a good day now,
- 32:20Speaker 4: having nice for sure.
- 32:21Speaker 2: I like that. Who have you said? You said somewhere
- 32:23Speaker 2: in the middle on that? Where do you sit?
- 32:25Speaker 3: Which side are you on in the Jags at home
- 32:27Speaker 3: versus the Colts? And how do you see this one
- 32:28Speaker 3: playing out for d best if at all?
- 32:30Speaker 6: Uh? The weather and the total coming down is I'm
- 32:34Speaker 6: still on some of the pieces, but I think I'm
- 32:37Speaker 6: pretty similar to title, where you know, mostly the tight
- 32:39Speaker 6: ends like Strange and Warren. I'm gonna have definitely have
- 32:42Speaker 6: some Jonathan Taylor about one fifty, probably right around the
- 32:45Speaker 6: field there. And I don't know, like if I got
- 32:48Speaker 6: some Brian Thomas or Jacobi Myers or Pittman or out Pierce,
- 32:53Speaker 6: I'd be fine with it. But I'll definitely be under
- 32:57Speaker 6: on this game for sure.
- 32:59Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a shot on it, at least in
- 33:01Speaker 2: portfolio play, and I might even throw you know, one
- 33:05Speaker 2: of my mains in with Lawrence.
- 33:07Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot on this spot. It's you know,
- 33:09Speaker 3: the weather outside is frightful. They say it is that
- 33:11Speaker 3: holiday season here. But if others are gonna be scared
- 33:14Speaker 3: of it and move off of it for you know,
- 33:15Speaker 3: a point or two drop, it sucks. It may not
- 33:18Speaker 3: go my way, but I would say I got those
- 33:19Speaker 3: those pasture poppers right. It either goes to the pasture
- 33:22Speaker 3: or it pops to the top one of the two,
- 33:23Speaker 3: and I kind of like that. It's definitely a good spot.
- 33:25Speaker 3: No Sauce Gardner. I think you know that helps at
- 33:28Speaker 3: least some whether you believe in him or not. As
- 33:29Speaker 3: a player. I know it's been you know, polarizing subject
- 33:33Speaker 3: for many but you got Lawrence Myers, Thomas Strange and
- 33:36Speaker 3: on the other side, actually don't mind Pittman, Pierce and Warren.
- 33:40Speaker 3: So however you want to mix them UPM not saying
- 33:41Speaker 3: to play them all together, but whatever your stuff shakes out, Like,
- 33:44Speaker 3: prices are all very similar across the board and on
- 33:47Speaker 3: both sides, so I think that's kind of interesting as well.
- 33:50Speaker 3: Like on drafting, Strange much cheaper than over on FanDuel,
- 33:53Speaker 3: but in general the rest of the guys sort of
- 33:55Speaker 3: fit the same way. It's just the type of matchup
- 33:59Speaker 3: you get both sides still a pretty big total versus
- 34:03Speaker 3: the slate at hand, and then the ability to see
- 34:05Speaker 3: it back and forth.
- 34:06Speaker 2: If it does get going, it would speed it up.
- 34:08Speaker 3: And Brian Thomas Junior has disappointed all seasons, so.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he continue? But what if he doesn't.
- 34:14Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking at on this slate and it
- 34:15Speaker 3: goes together just like Butter, just go build the line
- 34:18Speaker 3: up yourself.
- 34:19Speaker 2: You'll find it. It's easy. But this is the type
- 34:21Speaker 2: of setup I like, so I'll take a risk on
- 34:23Speaker 2: that one. I'm gonna do it. Later to in another game.
- 34:25Speaker 2: But we'll move on. Let's go to the Vikings at
- 34:28Speaker 2: Home versus the Commanders and whop. I'm gonna stay with
- 34:30Speaker 2: you on this one.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels JJ McCarthy, I know titles said the other
- 34:36Speaker 3: day he still wudn't even be on his guy Jefferson regardless,
- 34:38Speaker 3: but let's talk to you Hoop about this one.
- 34:40Speaker 2: First. Got Vikings at Home versus the Commanders.
- 34:43Speaker 6: Uh, it's a tough one, relatively low total. I mean
- 34:47Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy is at this point to use titles term
- 34:51Speaker 6: has to be like the definition of cheeks.
- 34:54Speaker 5: It's really bad.
- 34:55Speaker 6: And they said he's gonna be more cautious with his decision.
- 34:58Speaker 5: Making or something today. What in the does that mean?
- 35:00Speaker 6: Like, honestly, it's an NFL quarterback, Like, what in the
- 35:03Speaker 6: world does that mean? Yeah, I mean probably nothing really
- 35:09Speaker 6: for me on the Minnesota side. You know, Jefferson is
- 35:12Speaker 6: six point nine K and maybe if I if I
- 35:16Speaker 6: get some fine, but I'm not prioritizing it. I do
- 35:19Speaker 6: have some interests in the Washington stuff, you know, with
- 35:22Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels coming back, Terry McLaurin at fifty two hundred dollars,
- 35:26Speaker 6: like I'm interested there Debo at five to five, And
- 35:29Speaker 6: the nice thing about playing Debo is you get that
- 35:32Speaker 6: added bonus that he might pick up some carries along
- 35:36Speaker 6: the way. So I think he's a He's a fine option.
- 35:38Speaker 6: Then you got Zach Ertz at tight end. Who's ben solid.
- 35:41Speaker 6: I mean he's a defeating father time and continues to
- 35:45Speaker 6: produce at a relatively older age for NFL standard. So yeah,
- 35:52Speaker 6: I'm good with some Jaden Daniels McLaurin debo Ertz.
- 35:57Speaker 5: I think you can play with two.
- 35:58Speaker 6: I don't think he's gonna run as much today, don't
- 36:00Speaker 6: have to play with two, but you can or just
- 36:02Speaker 6: a single stack as well. So I will have some
- 36:06Speaker 6: Jade and Daniels stuff. But man, i just can't get
- 36:09Speaker 6: excited about the Vikings.
- 36:10Speaker 3: I'm not trying to figure out these running backs on
- 36:12Speaker 3: the Washington side specifically, Like on the other side, you know,
- 36:16Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is there. He kind of pops a little
- 36:17Speaker 3: bit for me, But it's more of how you would
- 36:19Speaker 3: put them together, like on fan Duel the Vikings d
- 36:22Speaker 3: I mean, they're cheap on most sites, but I'm saying
- 36:24Speaker 3: I would pair that up some.
- 36:25Speaker 2: I think if I'm stacking this game.
- 36:27Speaker 3: It's with Jaden Daniels, McLaurin Ertz and then probably gonna
- 36:31Speaker 3: have to just take a shot on Jefferson Jones that
- 36:33Speaker 3: type of thing, just to see how that shakes out.
- 36:35Speaker 2: But not going to be going crazy with that.
- 36:37Speaker 3: If anything, it would be like a five percenter, Like
- 36:39Speaker 3: if you know, if you're playing five k or five hundred,
- 36:42Speaker 3: whatever the number is, you play twenty five bucks or
- 36:44Speaker 3: two or fifty, but like chuck it on and just see, like,
- 36:46Speaker 3: if this thing goes, I got it. If it doesn't,
- 36:48Speaker 3: I didn't have it. But title, what's your thoughts on this?
- 36:50Speaker 3: Commander's a Viking spot. I guess if jj McCarthy was
- 36:53Speaker 3: ever going to show up with Justin Jefferson, this.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Should be it. But we feels like we could say
- 36:58Speaker 2: that for weeks on it.
- 37:00Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're right, like if there was ever a
- 37:02Speaker 4: spot that he could do anything, it feels like it
- 37:04Speaker 4: has to be today. And to make things even better
- 37:07Speaker 4: if you are trying to take that approach, commanders are
- 37:09Speaker 4: the chalk defense, not chalk like defense gets spread out,
- 37:12Speaker 4: but I expect them to be the highest zone on DraftKings,
- 37:15Speaker 4: so that eats into that a little bit man. I
- 37:18Speaker 4: still don't really know. I will keep it in in
- 37:19Speaker 4: large field stuff forty seven hundred. I can just play
- 37:22Speaker 4: him with Jefferson for sixty nine hundred. But again, I'm
- 37:25Speaker 4: playing a lot of teams. I do not recommend it.
- 37:27Speaker 4: It is by no means one of my favorite stacks.
- 37:30Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy just stinks the Jayden Daniels. Suff's interesting because
- 37:34Speaker 4: six k' is a great price tag Terry McLaurin coming
- 37:37Speaker 4: off the Big Game only fifty two hundred, clearly under priced.
- 37:40Speaker 4: But I am worried that it gets a little steam
- 37:42Speaker 4: in the sense of if people just click Jayden, they're
- 37:44Speaker 4: gonna go right to Terry. Like I don't most teams
- 37:47Speaker 4: you can say, all right, you play Lawrence. Strange will
- 37:50Speaker 4: get some, Jacoby will get some. Like the stack at
- 37:53Speaker 4: least goes multiple ways. This feels like everyone goes Jayden,
- 37:57Speaker 4: everyone's going Terry. And if that's like ten percent or
- 37:59Speaker 4: eleven percent, it feels a little high against the Vikings defense,
- 38:03Speaker 4: that's pretty good. It feels like Jaden needs to get
- 38:06Speaker 4: a touchdown on the ground or at least run for
- 38:08Speaker 4: a good amount. Thirty six and a half on the
- 38:10Speaker 4: ground prop solid plus two forty five solid. I just
- 38:15Speaker 4: I think I want to play other stacks where there's
- 38:17Speaker 4: more options and it gets more spread out. So honestly,
- 38:21Speaker 4: I don't like this game much at all. I think
- 38:24Speaker 4: Aaron Jones is my favorite, but that's more of just
- 38:26Speaker 4: a pricing thing. At fifty three hundred, he can catch
- 38:28Speaker 4: passes out of the backfield. He's the biggest favorite to
- 38:31Speaker 4: score in this game plus one forty five, But it's
- 38:33Speaker 4: really there's just no one below him viable like Kenneth
- 38:37Speaker 4: Walker three hund or more, Harvey four hundred more really
- 38:39Speaker 4: good plays, but if you do need the savings, I
- 38:42Speaker 4: just don't really see much in that range. So I
- 38:44Speaker 4: think he's my favorite. I promise we'll get to some
- 38:46Speaker 4: games I actually like.
- 38:47Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's playing this either, like you know, won't be pop.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Nobody's been playing Debo at all.
- 38:53Speaker 3: Like even in this game, it's it'll be stacked similarly
- 38:56Speaker 3: when people are on it, for sure, But it's actually
- 38:58Speaker 3: gonna be Daniel's McLaurin well before Debo.
- 39:01Speaker 2: People are just gonna go after the recent McLaurin game
- 39:04Speaker 2: for good reason. The guy was targeted like crazy.
- 39:05Speaker 3: He showed up by the way, everything he did down
- 39:07Speaker 3: on the stretch in that game too, Like they I
- 39:09Speaker 3: don't know if they give bonus points for that when
- 39:10Speaker 3: the next game comes around. We always say it doesn't
- 39:12Speaker 3: mean anything, but you gotta think, like if you come
- 39:14Speaker 3: through in the clutch when you're required to, that usually
- 39:17Speaker 3: gets some sort of like, hey, let's try it again.
- 39:19Speaker 2: It works.
- 39:19Speaker 3: Why do you think people are complaining every week about
- 39:22Speaker 3: the guy will get too later? Oh man, this sucks.
- 39:24Speaker 3: They keep throwing touchdowns to Devonte Adams. Yes, he keeps
- 39:27Speaker 3: catching them, and they score points when that happens. They're
- 39:29Speaker 3: very thrilled about that outcome.
- 39:31Speaker 2: And so some coaches do know what they're doing out there,
- 39:33Speaker 2: at least for the time being.
- 39:34Speaker 3: We'll see how it ends up today. But yeah, I
- 39:36Speaker 3: don't have too much else to add on this game.
- 39:38Speaker 3: I guess the last thing I'll say title is I
- 39:40Speaker 3: made fun of Aaron Jones with our boy Hamwich, and
- 39:44Speaker 3: then I went and checked the props and I was like, oh,
- 39:45Speaker 3: maybe it's actually not that bad for the price. I
- 39:47Speaker 3: think on FanDuel with like the touchdown scoring and stuff
- 39:50Speaker 3: like that a little better.
- 39:51Speaker 2: But I got no problem.
- 39:52Speaker 3: Too with the Commander's d like everyone said, but I
- 39:54Speaker 3: also have no problem with the Vikings d on the
- 39:57Speaker 3: other side, So I think this game is interesting from
- 39:59Speaker 3: that standpoint. Not going to be on anything to try
- 40:01Speaker 3: and pick off one of those defenses. Hoop, I'll go
- 40:05Speaker 3: to you man, Jets at home versus the Dolphins. We
- 40:07Speaker 3: had a little bit of a conversation on this on
- 40:09Speaker 3: the show here earlier, just about like the a Chan
- 40:12Speaker 3: versus the Breeze Hall.
- 40:13Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true or not.
- 40:15Speaker 3: It just feels like, you know, because of James Cook
- 40:17Speaker 3: being a thousand cheaper than a Chan, and then because
- 40:19Speaker 3: the bres Hall being down at sixty five hundred much cheaper.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Than a Chan. Well, it does still show twenty ish percent.
- 40:25Speaker 2: It probably is close to right anyway.
- 40:27Speaker 3: I'm just saying it does feel like at least he
- 40:28Speaker 3: keeps locked in at that number because anytime people get there,
- 40:31Speaker 3: it's like, ah, but I can go here instead. Oh,
- 40:33Speaker 3: I can just get this other side of the game.
- 40:35Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on this position.
- 40:37Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it has a chance to be a
- 40:39Speaker 6: little lower than that twenty percent number. I think that's
- 40:42Speaker 6: a good point. The prices up, I mean, we were
- 40:45Speaker 6: paying a little bit more than we did last week.
- 40:47Speaker 6: For him, there's other guys in that range. Now he's
- 40:50Speaker 6: in that big boy tier with you know, Jonathan Taylor, Bijon,
- 40:54Speaker 6: who are still names. I mean, people might not love
- 40:56Speaker 6: clicking them this week, but there's competition where he's at.
- 40:59Speaker 5: So I think it is in check a little bit.
- 41:02Speaker 5: And I do like him, and there's pieces in this game.
- 41:04Speaker 6: I mean, for being a forty A lot of times
- 41:06Speaker 6: you look at a forty one forty two totally like
- 41:09Speaker 6: I don't want anything here. I think this has a
- 41:11Speaker 6: chance to do something. You know, Tyrod Taylor definitely an
- 41:14Speaker 6: upgrade to the Jets offense overall. I mean, there's there's
- 41:17Speaker 6: no doubt about it. He's hitting these these pass catchers
- 41:20Speaker 6: and I know I shot on a Donnie Mitchell last week,
- 41:22Speaker 6: but it is more related to the name situation and
- 41:25Speaker 6: not the play situation. But he keeps throwing it to him,
- 41:28Speaker 6: and if he's gonna do that, I'm interested.
- 41:31Speaker 5: Mason Taylor tight end.
- 41:32Speaker 6: Another cheap tight end you can throw in there, Breisee
- 41:35Speaker 6: Hall at sixty five hundred, good price tag, you can
- 41:37Speaker 6: play him with Taylor. So I am interested in this
- 41:41Speaker 6: Jets stuff for sure. Despite the total being lower, and
- 41:45Speaker 6: then on the Miami side you got a cham like
- 41:47Speaker 6: we talked about Jaylen Waddell, I think is a good play.
- 41:50Speaker 6: And then Darren Waller at thirty eight hundred, I think
- 41:53Speaker 6: is fine, just curious, like the title is usually good
- 41:58Speaker 6: with this stuff, like the playing time, the snaps and
- 42:00Speaker 6: all that sort of thing. Because it was only what
- 42:03Speaker 6: three targets he had two for two for forty seven
- 42:07Speaker 6: first game back, like you have to imagine this up
- 42:10Speaker 6: takes a little bit going into this week. So thirty
- 42:13Speaker 6: eight hundred Waller, I'm interested there as well. You can
- 42:15Speaker 6: throw it in the mix. So there's I don't know
- 42:17Speaker 6: seven pieces that I'm interested in. Not a ton in Tua,
- 42:20Speaker 6: but you know I got running backs on both sides,
- 42:23Speaker 6: wide receivers on both sides, tight ends who should have
- 42:27Speaker 6: their ownership held in check on both sides, and a
- 42:30Speaker 6: cheap quarterback in Taylor that I'm interested in. So again
- 42:33Speaker 6: they had despite it being like a low total, I
- 42:35Speaker 6: do have interest here.
- 42:37Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam I ad and I Mitchell man the god
- 42:40Speaker 3: that's the Hebrew name for Ad and I is the
- 42:43Speaker 3: god and this guy just was the god. Last game
- 42:45Speaker 3: we saw. It was pretty incredible what he did. The
- 42:47Speaker 3: chat's talking about a title. If you play like an
- 42:49Speaker 3: A Chan with A Mitchell to speed this thing up,
- 42:51Speaker 3: you can do something like that. I think I went
- 42:54Speaker 3: through this yesterday with Alex. I did a little two
- 42:55Speaker 3: v two swap aru. I believe A Chan and Mitchell
- 43:00Speaker 3: is like one hundred dollars more than Breese Hall and Wattle.
- 43:04Speaker 3: So like any lineup you want that combo pack, you
- 43:06Speaker 3: can switch it up and flip it to the other
- 43:08Speaker 3: side because it just would fill out that way. So
- 43:10Speaker 3: interestingly enough, you can kind of play which whichever side
- 43:13Speaker 3: or either side of this game you want.
- 43:15Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on the spot?
- 43:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I like individual pieces more than the stacking. I
- 43:19Speaker 4: think Breeze, A Chan, and Donnie Mitchell are all very
- 43:22Speaker 4: very good plays for their price. You can play two
- 43:25Speaker 4: of the three. Both h Chan Breeze can catch passes.
- 43:29Speaker 4: Obviously they're running backs minus one forty five for a
- 43:32Speaker 4: Chan to score plus one hundred for Breeze. Price tags
- 43:35Speaker 4: are very solid on both guys. I think both elite
- 43:38Speaker 4: plays the Waller stuff. Yeah, I played a little undred
- 43:40Speaker 4: fifty percent of snaps last week. I do expect it
- 43:42Speaker 4: to go up though, and they're just high, high valuable snaps.
- 43:47Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of a different word, but you
- 43:49Speaker 4: guys go down and trying to say like in the
- 43:51Speaker 4: red zone, they actually mean something. When he's on the field,
- 43:54Speaker 4: he's the number two target, well, number three, it's eight Chan,
- 43:57Speaker 4: it's Wattle, and then it's him better price on Aduel
- 44:00Speaker 4: than DraftKings, and he fits the scoring better at fifty
- 44:03Speaker 4: one hundred, Pit's only fifty three hundred, so you'll definitely
- 44:06Speaker 4: get a big or big ownership gap.
- 44:08Speaker 5: That's a good.
- 44:09Speaker 4: Pivot again, plus two thirty five to score for a
- 44:11Speaker 4: tight ends pretty good. So yeah, I think that's an
- 44:13Speaker 4: interesting call. Don't mind Wattle either, coming off a really
- 44:17Speaker 4: bad game. But I mean it's really all up to Tua.
- 44:20Speaker 4: Like if Tua is on, which his floor is really low,
- 44:24Speaker 4: his ceiling can be pretty high. But yeah, when he's on,
- 44:26Speaker 4: it's always Waddle. In that first look, he just turns
- 44:29Speaker 4: his head, hits him on his skinny post. We've seen
- 44:31Speaker 4: big games for him, So don't mind that eats himTo
- 44:34Speaker 4: eight Chan's ownership a little bit. If you want the pivot.
- 44:37Speaker 4: I know some people are gonna go back to Tyrod.
- 44:39Speaker 4: I don't hate it at forty nine hundred, but I
- 44:41Speaker 4: think I prefer some other cheaper quarterbacks that we'll still
- 44:44Speaker 4: get to so bresee Donnie Mitchell Chan. Maybe a little
- 44:48Speaker 4: Waller is how I'm playing it.
- 44:49Speaker 3: Yeah, if you are going to the Taylor side. One
- 44:51Speaker 3: thing I've considered it because it went way up. It's like,
- 44:53Speaker 3: I know, it's a way up. It went up like
- 44:55Speaker 3: twenty five hundred dollars from last week for that little
- 44:57Speaker 3: triple pack there with Taylor Metchian Mitchell. You might have
- 45:01Speaker 3: to mix in Mason Taylor and go Taylor squared plus
- 45:04Speaker 3: those two receivers to then get a Wattle or most
- 45:08Speaker 3: likely a Chan, which would be really nice. I think
- 45:10Speaker 3: if you're gonna go that route and then just hope
- 45:11Speaker 3: the game does pop off. But that Mason Taylor piece, well,
- 45:15Speaker 3: it's not like he's phenomenal on paper.
- 45:17Speaker 2: He would cut into it a little bit. But maybe
- 45:18Speaker 2: you go to Waller, like Hoops said on the other side,
- 45:20Speaker 2: you got Haul and Waller together, a baller.
- 45:23Speaker 3: Maybe put those two guys together. But I don't know,
- 45:25Speaker 3: Like it's it's an interesting spot. But I think there
- 45:28Speaker 3: is one thing that if you don't land on this game,
- 45:30Speaker 3: because there's eleven games you could play one of the
- 45:33Speaker 3: defenses jets are really cheap. Maybe just land on them
- 45:36Speaker 3: because who cares, or you just skip over this game,
- 45:39Speaker 3: like if I have some have I definitely have lineups,
- 45:41Speaker 3: and I know you can't play everything, but if you
- 45:43Speaker 3: have lineups that don't have someone from this game, I
- 45:45Speaker 3: think you're fine. It's just you know, some people assume
- 45:48Speaker 3: I need to have pieces from this because of Mitchell's
- 45:51Speaker 3: week last week, because of how good a chan is,
- 45:53Speaker 3: how good haul looks on paper, et cetera. I honestly
- 45:55Speaker 3: think there's a spot where it might just slow down
- 45:57Speaker 3: and then you don't need it. Obviously, I'll have other
- 45:59Speaker 3: lineups that if you need it, you got to have it.
- 46:01Speaker 3: And so that's kind of how I would look at
- 46:02Speaker 3: this spot. Hoop, I'll stay, I'll go back to you,
- 46:06Speaker 3: actually sorry, and stick to this one with you. It's
- 46:08Speaker 3: the Buccaneers at home versus the Saints. Olave was ruled
- 46:12Speaker 3: in yesterday as far as the Bucks side real quick,
- 46:15Speaker 3: just for those who don't follow all the news throughout
- 46:16Speaker 3: the week, like McMillan and Evans were opened up on
- 46:19Speaker 3: their twenty one day window, but they're not playing this
- 46:22Speaker 3: week for the Bucks. Mike Evan said he'd liked to
- 46:23Speaker 3: be back as early as Thursday, but right now they're
- 46:26Speaker 3: still rolling with the Ibuka Godwin Outan's Bucky Irving looking
- 46:30Speaker 3: really good last week.
- 46:30Speaker 2: What are you doing here with this one?
- 46:32Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, with all these guys coming back, might
- 46:34Speaker 6: be the last chance to kind of get a consolidated
- 46:36Speaker 6: offense or a little bit more consolidated. We saw Bucky
- 46:39Speaker 6: come back and immediately picked up with right around twenty touches.
- 46:43Speaker 6: That's good to see. Ibuka has a cheap price tag
- 46:47Speaker 6: sixty three hundred, and then so does Baker at fifty eight.
- 46:50Speaker 6: And there's a lot of question marks at like the
- 46:51Speaker 6: quarterback position today, and there's not a lot of super
- 46:54Speaker 6: appealing guys like man. I definitely want some Baker at
- 46:58Speaker 6: fifty eight in a good match up. They're at home
- 47:01Speaker 6: projected to score I don't know, twenty five, which is
- 47:05Speaker 6: relatively high on this on the slate. So I love Baker,
- 47:11Speaker 6: I like Bucky Igbuka. You can play some Kadot and
- 47:14Speaker 6: then on the other side, I mean I think there
- 47:16Speaker 6: are plays like you can play Chris Alave.
- 47:18Speaker 5: I think he's fine this vele how do you pronounce it?
- 47:21Speaker 5: I don't want, I don't know. As soon as I mispronounced.
- 47:23Speaker 6: It, Jyle, yeah, vla all right, vele vlay. I know
- 47:28Speaker 6: someone will break it down like syllable by syllable in
- 47:31Speaker 6: the chat and a minute to get it straight. But
- 47:32Speaker 6: I think you know eight or nine targets last week
- 47:35Speaker 6: thirty seven hundred. Uh he looked good, Juwan Johnson. Uh So,
- 47:39Speaker 6: I really like that the Tampa Bay side. I'm fine
- 47:42Speaker 6: with these runbacks on the State side. I think it's
- 47:45Speaker 6: a really good spot for the Bucks offense and a
- 47:48Speaker 6: very interesting game if you're still live in Survivor pools,
- 47:52Speaker 6: because this this spot is going to be extremely extremely
- 47:55Speaker 6: popular today with not many people using them up to
- 47:59Speaker 6: this point, and they're at home favorite by eight and
- 48:01Speaker 6: a half, so if they somehow lose, I mean, it
- 48:04Speaker 6: would be chaos in the survivor's streets.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Naid's got us to the chat is Veyleyle.
- 48:09Speaker 5: Okay, thank you Nates. That's easy, easy, and appreciate that.
- 48:13Speaker 6: Maybe I won't talk shit about the week one cash
- 48:16Speaker 6: head to head now, no, but I will. It comes
- 48:23Speaker 6: in helps us and now we get the banner go
- 48:26Speaker 6: get the banner.
- 48:27Speaker 2: Go and get the panner go.
- 48:28Speaker 3: I mean nids are you know on similar pasths today
- 48:30Speaker 3: and he's on this spot actually if you follow the
- 48:33Speaker 3: chat you can check it out with in the discord
- 48:35Speaker 3: as well. With the Tyler Shuck side of things with
- 48:37Speaker 3: Olabe playing does make it somewhat interesting. And I talked
- 48:41Speaker 3: earlier about a possible Z day, but maybe it's Devon
- 48:43Speaker 3: Veleay that ends up being needed. And we got Juwan Johnson.
- 48:46Speaker 3: You can pare up with them on the other side.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Everybody looked good to me, like if you got Bucky
- 48:50Speaker 3: Chris Godwin dropped a touchdown too, which doesn't help, but
- 48:53Speaker 3: if he had it would have been even better. And
- 48:55Speaker 3: if he catches it, maybe he's even more popular. At
- 48:57Speaker 3: fifty three hundred. You have Igbuka at six. The thing
- 49:01Speaker 3: about this game is the pace is solid for both sides.
- 49:05Speaker 3: That could fall apart can happen any game, but the
- 49:07Speaker 3: both passing defenses can get thrown on. Both teams like
- 49:11Speaker 3: to throw the ball again. If you have the stone,
- 49:12Speaker 3: it's all in one place. I can see how much
- 49:14Speaker 3: each team passes on the season, see what the pass
- 49:16Speaker 3: defenses look like on ratings.
- 49:18Speaker 2: See what the color coding is.
- 49:19Speaker 3: Looks like a really good spot to attack stack rankings
- 49:22Speaker 3: have interest in it, like really just an interesting spot
- 49:25Speaker 3: for the slate. It kind of makes a lot work.
- 49:27Speaker 3: And that was the thing titled last week. I'll go
- 49:29Speaker 3: to you on this game. But so many people caught
- 49:31Speaker 3: up in Tyrod Taylor sucks, Tyler Shuck sucks. Brissette is
- 49:35Speaker 3: terrible without you know, he's got these guys back, It's
- 49:37Speaker 3: gonna be too tricky, too confusing. It's like you said,
- 49:40Speaker 3: we played DFS. We got to make it all work.
- 49:42Speaker 3: And the stacks that you can put together like this
- 49:45Speaker 3: make a lot of things work where you're not stretching
- 49:47Speaker 3: it too thin.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Do you need them to have a good day, Yes.
- 49:50Speaker 3: But you've got really good other pieces in your lineup
- 49:53Speaker 3: that if they just have a good day and those
- 49:55Speaker 3: things go as expected. Doesn't always work that way, but
- 49:57Speaker 3: if they do, you can really put yourself in a
- 49:59Speaker 3: good spot.
- 50:00Speaker 2: So what's your thoughts here on the Saints Bucks game.
- 50:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I love how you guys are loving this game too.
- 50:05Speaker 4: I'm on the same page and I'm seeing two percent,
- 50:08Speaker 4: five percent, eight percent, five three percent for the main
- 50:11Speaker 4: piece on the Saints and I'm seeing five percent Baker
- 50:14Speaker 4: thirteen Buck eleven Igbuca to God, like, I mean, this
- 50:18Speaker 4: game's not getting any ownership. I really like this game.
- 50:22Speaker 4: The Baker side, I'm fine with. He can play in
- 50:24Speaker 4: with Igbuka. It's probably the way I'd go about it.
- 50:27Speaker 4: But my favorite way is just going the shuck route.
- 50:29Speaker 4: At forty six hundred. Again, you like, seventeen eighteen could
- 50:33Speaker 4: be enough. It can get you JSN James Cook, Puka
- 50:36Speaker 4: two of the three, whatever you want to pair him.
- 50:39Speaker 4: Probably Vele is my favorite pairing just because it's free
- 50:42Speaker 4: at thirty seven hundred. If he gets ten, he doesn't
- 50:45Speaker 4: come off the field, and Chuck gets you seventeen and
- 50:48Speaker 4: just the studs are what you need. It's so cheap.
- 50:50Speaker 4: Jawan Johnson a Onesie position four K shucks liked him
- 50:54Speaker 4: quite a bit. O Lave sixty five hundred sure. To
- 50:57Speaker 4: be honest, he might even my least favorite of the three.
- 51:00Speaker 4: It's close, but it's really just the pricing thing. You
- 51:02Speaker 4: can survive. Like a plenty of people won a lot
- 51:05Speaker 4: of money last week with John Metchi three or five.
- 51:09Speaker 4: It was why did they win? In the money? They
- 51:11Speaker 4: played Tyrod, They played a Donnie Mitchell and him, and
- 51:14Speaker 4: it was also cheap. It allowed you to get whoever
- 51:17Speaker 4: studs he needed. So yeah, Bucky. I love Bucky, I
- 51:21Speaker 4: will say, though I'm worried about the one concern that's
- 51:24Speaker 4: pulling me back a little bit is the props. Like
- 51:26Speaker 4: Bucky only plus one Zho five to score no one's
- 51:29Speaker 4: favorite to score in this game sixty four and a half.
- 51:32Speaker 4: I think his rushing prop was, let me make sure,
- 51:35Speaker 4: it might have been a couple of yards higher, sixty
- 51:37Speaker 4: eight and a half. Like when you're comparing props to
- 51:40Speaker 4: other people in the range, it doesn't grade out greatly,
- 51:44Speaker 4: but I'm in on it. The bucks pass, funnel shock,
- 51:47Speaker 4: cheap pass catcher's cheap. Bucky looks good. I'm playing this
- 51:51Speaker 4: game for sure.
- 51:52Speaker 3: Well the other thing too, So I definitely like this
- 51:54Speaker 3: game with Bucky because Bucky looks good. But like you
- 51:56Speaker 3: said that, you know, Igbuka still stands out to me.
- 51:59Speaker 3: I know people like Godwin for you know, a thousand
- 52:01Speaker 3: bucks less as well, and I get all that, but
- 52:03Speaker 3: you can really stack this game up and then you
- 52:05Speaker 3: don't remember the key point you said there, and that
- 52:08Speaker 3: really was just summarizing what I was trying to say
- 52:10Speaker 3: earlier is like people are so worried about is Veyle
- 52:13Speaker 3: gonna come through with Olave with Johnson?
- 52:15Speaker 2: Probably not.
- 52:16Speaker 3: Remember when our guy Sheets made that run at the
- 52:18Speaker 3: Million came second, Trey Tucker had forty three, Bowers only
- 52:23Speaker 3: had nine, and Meyers at the time with the Raiders
- 52:25Speaker 3: only had nine as well. They were both subtenant's the
- 52:27Speaker 3: forty four or forty three point six or whatever that
- 52:29Speaker 3: gets you there. When Veley and Juwan Johnson are seventy
- 52:33Speaker 3: seven hundred combined and Olave is there, it just makes
- 52:35Speaker 3: it all work. And now you don't necessarily need Bucky, right,
- 52:39Speaker 3: I think you want someone like Abuca to make that
- 52:41Speaker 3: thing go.
- 52:42Speaker 2: But you also can then have like.
- 52:43Speaker 3: Really good running backs in builds like that. So yeah,
- 52:46Speaker 3: it's a really interesting spot for me. It's another one
- 52:48Speaker 3: that's either gonna pop or go to the pasture, so
- 52:50Speaker 3: one of the two. But I definitely think it's a
- 52:52Speaker 3: good spot to get overweight on. This next spot could
- 52:55Speaker 3: be similar as well. Whop we've got Bills at home.
- 52:59Speaker 2: Versus the Bengals. We had the James Cook conversation.
- 53:02Speaker 3: But sounds like from last night anyway, this is the
- 53:05Speaker 3: it was kind of like sneaky how they said it.
- 53:07Speaker 3: We will get news at the end of the show
- 53:09Speaker 3: really in the next half hours, so you know, leading
- 53:11Speaker 3: up to lock with the inactives. But they said Kincaid's
- 53:14Speaker 3: gonna try and give it a go, but likely to
- 53:16Speaker 3: give it a go or likely to play. So it
- 53:19Speaker 3: sounds like if there's like some sort of setback, then fine.
- 53:22Speaker 2: The interesting thing to.
- 53:23Speaker 3: That before I, you know, to end rant here is
- 53:25Speaker 3: there was a video on his Friday practice and it
- 53:28Speaker 3: was very ginger. It actually looked like you might have
- 53:30Speaker 3: still had the brace on, to be honest. So that's
- 53:32Speaker 3: the only video anyone had from him before the news
- 53:34Speaker 3: last night. So I am curious to see. And it
- 53:36Speaker 3: kind of matters. He's forty three hundred, it's a leverage
- 53:38Speaker 3: spot versus James Cook, and it's the best tight end
- 53:41Speaker 3: matchup in the building.
- 53:42Speaker 2: So what's your thoughts on this game?
- 53:43Speaker 5: With all that said, Yeah, I mean we got to
- 53:45Speaker 5: get that information. Definitely sounds a little bit disty.
- 53:48Speaker 6: The wording around it does not sound clear, and you know,
- 53:51Speaker 6: a good thing at one pm Eastern game, So we're
- 53:53Speaker 6: gonna have I guess we're gonna have whether or not
- 53:56Speaker 6: he's gonna play. It doesn't necessarily mean he's healthy. And
- 53:59Speaker 6: it is tough with the buffalo stuff. Like if you
- 54:01Speaker 6: are playing Josh Allen, you can definitely play him by himself.
- 54:04Speaker 6: But like man, like you would like the security of
- 54:07Speaker 6: King Kaiden, they're another guy you can go to because
- 54:10Speaker 6: like right now it's like man, you can pare pair
- 54:12Speaker 6: him with Shakir and then the.
- 54:15Speaker 5: Other pass catchers.
- 54:16Speaker 6: I mean, you got Gabe Davis, Kean Coleman, this Shavers
- 54:18Speaker 6: guy they keep mixing in there. They got Cooks, Like
- 54:21Speaker 6: it is tough to stack Josh Allen. Uh, so we'll
- 54:25Speaker 6: have to see, but uh yeah, I mean Josh Allen,
- 54:28Speaker 6: James Cook already talked about a great individual plays James Cook.
- 54:31Speaker 6: James Cook probably the most popular uh player on the slate.
- 54:36Speaker 1: Uh.
- 54:36Speaker 5: And then Josh Allen. Uh, you know he's gonna get ownership.
- 54:40Speaker 6: But the way you play him, I think it's an
- 54:42Speaker 6: important part, Like do you pair him? Do you not
- 54:44Speaker 6: pair him? Who do you pair him with? If King
- 54:46Speaker 6: Kaid's out? You know most people that do go Josh
- 54:49Speaker 6: Allen plus one. It's gonna be Josh Allen with Shakir,
- 54:52Speaker 6: just because there's so many other options, and he's the
- 54:54Speaker 6: one that's on the field. I do think the Bengal
- 54:56Speaker 6: side is in play here with you know, Higgins back
- 54:59Speaker 6: in the you got Burrow Chase. Like this Bill's defense
- 55:04Speaker 6: is not great, you can be productive against them, and
- 55:08Speaker 6: Joe Burrow's gonna have his full complement of weapons today.
- 55:11Speaker 6: So I am interested in that side as well. The
- 55:13Speaker 6: biggest toll on the slate by.
- 55:16Speaker 5: Quite a bit. You know, fifty, What are they like
- 55:18Speaker 5: around fifty four? And there's really nothing else in that
- 55:22Speaker 5: range unless I'm missing something. There's nothing else in that range.
- 55:25Speaker 6: So you know, a lot of people beyond Allen, a
- 55:27Speaker 6: lot of people beyond James Cook, Jamar Chase. But there's
- 55:31Speaker 6: definitely a lot of different ways to play this one,
- 55:33Speaker 6: and it's a very appealing game title.
- 55:37Speaker 2: Go to you on this one here.
- 55:38Speaker 3: It's just depending on sort of how everyone like, everyone
- 55:41Speaker 3: sees it in a different way. I guess like some
- 55:42Speaker 3: people are super excited about the Joe Burrow side because
- 55:45Speaker 3: the fact that they he dropped back so many times
- 55:48Speaker 3: on that Thanksgiving game, even with a big lead and
- 55:50Speaker 3: playing well and everything, and now you get the full
- 55:52Speaker 3: team healthy. But it doesn't seem like, outside of Jamar Chase,
- 55:56Speaker 3: who obviously is going to get some ownership at eighty
- 55:58Speaker 3: two hundred, it doesn't seem like many are on Higgins.
- 56:01Speaker 3: Nobody wants to mess around with those running backs because
- 56:03Speaker 3: the p Ryan situation usage last week a Burrow fine
- 56:07Speaker 3: but sixty five hundred, So he's kind of squeezed between
- 56:09Speaker 3: do I go up to Josh Allen or do I
- 56:11Speaker 3: play like the Jayden Daniels or as everyone has all season,
- 56:14Speaker 3: played the cheaper quarterbacks. And then on the other side,
- 56:17Speaker 3: it's I think people struggle to figure out how to
- 56:19Speaker 3: stack Josh Allen, and I don't blame them, but that
- 56:21Speaker 3: becomes part of it as well. Obviously, the kin kid
- 56:23Speaker 3: stuff super important, but as it stands, going to assume
- 56:27Speaker 3: no setback for him, and there's props on him everything,
- 56:29Speaker 3: it looks like we'll see him go. So what's your
- 56:31Speaker 3: thoughts on this game Bengals at the Bills.
- 56:34Speaker 4: Yeah, so the James Cook obviously is a phenomenal play.
- 56:37Speaker 4: The Josh Allen stuffs tough, like what do you do
- 56:39Speaker 4: with him? And I think today my favorite way to
- 56:42Speaker 4: approach is just naked, and I think it's because I
- 56:44Speaker 4: want him to vulture, the rushing touchdowns from James Cook
- 56:48Speaker 4: to get the leverage, and then it's like not playing
- 56:52Speaker 4: even if it's Kinkaid day or Gabe Davis day or
- 56:54Speaker 4: shape like, I'm just not expecting others to get it
- 56:57Speaker 4: right as well, or if they do get it right,
- 56:59Speaker 4: you talk about a lot tambau, what does the rest
- 57:01Speaker 4: of the lineup look like? So I think I could
- 57:03Speaker 4: play Josh Allen not even guess the pass catcher. Even
- 57:06Speaker 4: if one of them does completely go off for their price,
- 57:09Speaker 4: you still might not need them at the end of
- 57:11Speaker 4: the day. It's mainly it's the leverage off of James
- 57:14Speaker 4: Cook getting the touchdowns. Is Josh Allen He could obviously
- 57:18Speaker 4: totally do that. So I think Josh Allen naked is
- 57:20Speaker 4: a pretty strong play today, something I will be doing obviously.
- 57:24Speaker 4: I like James Cook too. Can you pair them together?
- 57:26Speaker 4: Someone asked yes, but not my favorite just because I mean,
- 57:30Speaker 4: you're spending a lot of money. Cook's chalky, then you
- 57:34Speaker 4: really need Alan to do something and Cook still get there.
- 57:36Speaker 4: So not my favorite way, but you can always do it.
- 57:39Speaker 4: I do like the Burrow stuff just because I could
- 57:40Speaker 4: see him dropping back forty plus times when it's all
- 57:43Speaker 4: said and done. If they have to play catch up
- 57:46Speaker 4: and if they can't run the football, which I'm not
- 57:47Speaker 4: sure they can. Jamar Chase is like when I'm playing
- 57:51Speaker 4: Burrow Burrow Chase, I just think how I'm gonna do it. Higgins,
- 57:55Speaker 4: He's fine, he can have his big games, but I mean,
- 57:57Speaker 4: Snowflake is probably the most likely outcome. It feels like
- 58:00Speaker 4: him for his price, and Chase could just get eighteen targets.
- 58:04Speaker 4: Again in this spot, ownership has to be in check
- 58:07Speaker 4: with Pook up there, with jsn up there, and then
- 58:10Speaker 4: when I play it, I probably would play James Cook
- 58:12Speaker 4: as my runback. So yeah, Burrow Chase, I like James
- 58:16Speaker 4: Cook obviously a great play, but Josh all and naked
- 58:18Speaker 4: is something I like to leverage Cook stuff.
- 58:21Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the other side of the leverage. Kenny
- 58:23Speaker 3: brings an option up to our man. Kenny W says,
- 58:25Speaker 3: you know, since he recency, I know p Ryan is annoying,
- 58:28Speaker 3: but Brown could be really good in a run funnel
- 58:30Speaker 3: type game, and then says obviously kind of weather game.
- 58:33Speaker 3: Yes that's possible too, but just noting it.
- 58:35Speaker 2: It is a good matchup for him, for sure.
- 58:37Speaker 3: It is the opposite side at eleven hundred dollars cheaper
- 58:40Speaker 3: than James Cook, if you want to flip it that way.
- 58:42Speaker 3: You know, it's really hard to figure out how this
- 58:44Speaker 3: game is going to go, so you kind of just
- 58:45Speaker 3: wanted a piece of it that's not James Cook.
- 58:47Speaker 2: You could do that.
- 58:48Speaker 3: I don't think it's exciting what happened last week, but
- 58:51Speaker 3: with the Burrow, Higgins, Chase everyone there, and there is
- 58:54Speaker 3: some checkdowns things like that, even though the offense hasn't
- 58:57Speaker 3: been fully healthy together like this in quite some time.
- 59:00Speaker 3: I'm you know, James Chase Brown has been getting a
- 59:03Speaker 3: ton of targets and still getting a ton of carries.
- 59:06Speaker 3: It just sucks he can't get more because of what
- 59:08Speaker 3: the p Ryan usage was last week, but it also
- 59:10Speaker 3: could change for this week. So from a tournament perspective,
- 59:13Speaker 3: I think really solid, you know, from you know, taking
- 59:15Speaker 3: taking a trying to take advantage of.
- 59:17Speaker 2: It in some of the higher dollar, smaller field stuff
- 59:19Speaker 2: you playing. Kenny.
- 59:20Speaker 3: I'm not so sure it'd be a definite separator though
- 59:22Speaker 3: if you did that, But I'm pretty sure you got
- 59:23Speaker 3: the money to just get the James Cook and that's
- 59:25Speaker 3: what most will end up doing. So I'm gonna leave
- 59:28Speaker 3: it at that, and you guys broke it down really
- 59:30Speaker 3: good within that one.
- 59:31Speaker 4: Hoop.
- 59:31Speaker 2: I'll go back to you on this one.
- 59:33Speaker 3: As we move to these, I guess it's the three
- 59:35Speaker 3: afternoon games that we've got here. We've got the Raiders
- 59:37Speaker 3: at home versus the Broncos, got the Packers at home
- 59:40Speaker 3: versus the Bears, and then we've got the Cardinals at
- 59:43Speaker 3: home versus the Rams, and whop will start with the
- 59:46Speaker 3: Raiders game. But just a note, it is tricky a
- 59:48Speaker 3: little bit from a late swap perspective because like, if
- 59:51Speaker 3: you have the money and you're already on say, I
- 59:55Speaker 3: don't know Stafford, Nakua and Wilson, even if your shit
- 59:58Speaker 3: fails in the morning, what do you switch too? Like
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: what else is going to be better than Stafford, Nakua
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: and Wilson. It's like you're just kind of gotta suck
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: it up and move on. But I'll let you take
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: it away.
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: Yeah, not the I guess it is appealing, but the
- 1:00:11Speaker 6: sponsor are just super obvious. It's like, you know, in
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: the afternoon, Michael Wilson's gonna be very popular, you know, Puka,
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: that sort of thing. Josh Jacobs Christian Watson. So you know,
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: if you are looking to pivot, like where are you going?
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: You know, But in this Broncos Raiders game, I'm fine
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: with some of the bon nick stuff.
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: I mean it's a good spot against the Raiders. I
- 1:00:31Speaker 5: mean just kind of like a dead team now at.
- 1:00:33Speaker 6: This point, they're projected to score a decent bit the Broncos.
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: My favorite part is definitely R. J. Harvey fifty seven hundred.
- 1:00:43Speaker 6: You know, I think he's looked pretty good. I will
- 1:00:45Speaker 6: have some bon knicks to Sutton Franklin as Pat Bryant guy,
- 1:00:49Speaker 6: you know, seven seven targets last week. He's cheap at
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: thirty four. I am interested there. On the other side,
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: I don't know, like I'm fine with some genty he's
- 1:00:58Speaker 6: getting a lot of passing more or fine with Bowers.
- 1:01:01Speaker 6: I think Bowers does have a chance to get squeezed
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: a little bit with you know, Trey McBride up top,
- 1:01:07Speaker 6: and then a lot of you know, cheap guys below him,
- 1:01:09Speaker 6: even Tyler Warren's one thousand dollars cheaper. So I do
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: think if I am playing a Bronco stack, I definitely
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: want to include Bowers. If I'm going with a runback,
- 1:01:18Speaker 6: You'd definitely be my preferred option. But yeah, I'm not
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: super interested, you know, just i'd say R. J. Harvey
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: is probably my favorite, all.
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: Right title, What do you got with this one? Any
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: thoughts on just the afternoon stuff as well?
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: Yeah, totally in agreement with you. In the afternoon stuff
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: like Stafford Bersette, Josh. The thing is actually though, like
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: Luther Burden is gonna get owners that maybe some lovel
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: and definitely Josh Jacob, Stafford Wilson, like there's gonna be
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: chalk in the afternoon. There's no doubt this is the
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: clear pivot game if you need to come to something
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: to get different, or you'd have to go like Cale
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: Williams stuff. I don't know. Again, I'd kind of let
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: Saber sim do his thing in terms of late swapping
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: most stuff, and then I keep an eye on the
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: high dollar buy ins single entry stuff that way. This game. Yeah,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: I mean, Harvey's fine, Genty's fine. Pat Bryan's fine because
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: he's thirty four hundred, bo Nicks sixty one hundred if
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: I play him. My favorite way to play him is
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: with Pat Brian, I think just because it's really cheap
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: and allows me to spend stuff. Bo has upside with
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: those legs a little bit plus three forty to score it. Really,
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: I think I'm just mainly getting this game though in pivots,
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: in late swap stuff when I have to get out chalk,
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: get off chalk and bow knicks. Pat Bryant would be
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: my favorite. I really don't like this game. Yeah, Bours
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: probably does get squeezed. Matchups really tough, though I think
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: Bronco's force them to just dump into Genty underneath. I
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: do think Genty can his pass catching roles really increase
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: as of late. I think he could catch seven eight
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: balls in this spot because Denver just keeps everything in
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: front of him. Don't hate it that way. He's my
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: favorite runback, but it's not my favorite game.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: What about with the Harvey stuff, Like we just saw
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: Vidall sort of walk all over these guys no problem,
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: and I think he's getting some.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: Ownership, whether or not it actually holds true. At fifty
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: seven hundred, we'll see there's gonna be late swap stuff,
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: of course, all that and the other. But there is
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: a lot of guys within this range that I could
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: see people going to or at least holding him in check.
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: And it was just last week you could play v
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: Doll and Bowers together. That was on my big lineup,
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: and it was closer call than it could have been
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: with the Bowers stuff because he only got four catches
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: and two of them were for touchdowns. But I guess
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: the Harvey side of things. I looked at his props too,
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: not that bad. Really, Yeah, they're fine. I mean he's
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: the minus one fifteen.
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: The score is fine, he's fourteen and a half rushing
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: attempts prop with a good amount of juice on the under.
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: The good thing about him and though, is he can
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: catch passes out of the backfield. The problem is Jollil
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: McLoughlin worked in a lot more than I expected Slash wanted.
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: But Harvey's goal line role plus his pass catching ability,
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: plus just the matchup and then being big favorites, Yeah,
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: that's why he's getting ownership. Like the spot really couldn't
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: be better. What do you prefer him or Kenneth Walker
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: right in the same range. I think that's another interesting
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: one view one.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely interesting. I've got lineups with them both.
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: I know that have to fit some of these bigger stacks,
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: but it's like either you know, getting to Bowers to
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: the point of what status brought up there. Titans have
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: had some pretty big games against them, that's possible. But
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: also I like the Walker Pits set up from earlier
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: as well, just to you know, one feels more median ish,
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: one feels more ceilingish, but costs a little bit more
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: is to get to the Harvey Rock Bower stuff, because
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: you got to go up from that pits price price tag.
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: But I mean, like I said, when you got a
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: guy like Brock Bowers, I mean, she's got to come
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: to your senses.
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: They just did.
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: They did last game because he had that one touchdown
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: that got called back and then they gave it to
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: him again just a few plays later.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: But you got to just throw that guy at the ball. Man.
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: He's very capable, he can catch anything. He's huge. Just
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: let him get the ball and run with it.
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: There should be no reason that he's not treated like
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: a McBride or something along those lines.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: I know it's Geno thrown to him, but Geno and
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: Brissett like garbage time guys, like it's kind of kind
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: of fits perfectly for the same setup. Like just throw
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: Brock Powers the ball. So definitely the It's interesting from
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: that standpoint. I got a little bit more Harvey and
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: then over on FanDuel when you need a little bit.
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: More price value, it's kind of I think he picks
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: up some scheme over there because it makes sense. Nothing
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: else on this one, though, I'll stay with you title
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: go to year Packers Packers at home versus the Bears.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: What are you thinking about this spot?
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: I think the Packers are going to try and run
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: the football forty times in the cold weather and just
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: pound the Bears on the ground, and I think the
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: Bears probably try and do the same to the Packers.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: I mean, Manongay and Swift have been awesome for him
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: on the ground. Without Roma, Donze, Luther Burden like this
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: game in terms of you look at the total, you
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: look at the weather, all that. This game has a
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: lot more ownership than most would think. But again it's
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: an injury salary based game with injuries. No Roma Dunze
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: leaves thirty eight hundred, Luther Burden really cheap, and Colson
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: Lovelin thirty two hundred way too cheap. The only two
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: Bears I will be playing. I know someone mentions the
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: kias for three K It's just there's way better props,
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: Like you can spend a couple hundred more to figure
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: something out, or I'd rather play like double tight end
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: and find two hundred to go to Loveland Packers stuff.
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: Jacob sixty eight hundred, I always like, I don't know
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: he's gonna be heavily owned. The prop's fine, the touchdown
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: prop is good, but I just don't know like how
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: much he gets thirty plus in this spot, which is
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: a little worries some like they are still putting in
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: Emmanuel Wilson, A bit Brooks, Watson, Christian Watson's been really good.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: I just I think like the guy's in that range
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: right there. Bucky Irving, I feel like has more upside.
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: There's obviously the James Cook, Breeze Hall Judkins for cheaper.
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: I don't know. I think I prefer all of them
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: at ownership compared to Jacob. So I honestly don't love
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: that spot as much. I wanted to try and like
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: Love and Watson to cut into Jacob's chalk and leverage
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: it that way. I'm just worried the Packers don't drop
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: back enough for Jordan Love to fully get there in
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: this spot. So mainly individual pieces skinny stacks Burdon Watson
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: or Burdon Lovelin, and then on the run back would
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: be Jacobs Watson probably just that, but I like Burden
- 1:07:05Speaker 4: Loveland my favorite two in this game. I think at ownership.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go there in a second, and people talk
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: about Comet here.
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: You need this, I mean, this is the take. It's
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: how it works on eleven game slate.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: Pretty much.
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: If you got this, he could be valuable. But if
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: you got that, you should just play him with Caleb Williams.
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: Get Luther Burden in there for whatever, just because he
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: can catch some passes and then use Jacobs on the
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: other side. That would be a complete, unique way to
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: play it. But the only way Cole Comet becomes really
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: valuable is probably with two touchdowns on this slate, with
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: this many tight ends and all the spots that we
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: talked about, and the way lineups connect as a whole,
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: just everything the way the game works, It's just you
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: kind of would need that, and if you get that,
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: you'd want to have it paired together.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: On that stuff, I'll go to you.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: We had a little bit of a pre show chat
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: about this, you know, and I talked about pulling it off.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: Like with the Law.
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: I still love Love and I love Loveland. I think
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: this is a good spot for this game. I know
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: that not everybody is as comfortable with that, but I
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: do think there's something to be said.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: You know, they still have a really good spot to.
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: Throw, and with Jayden Reid coming back, I assume his
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: snaps are going to be limited. Just the way I
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: would think about it. It's more interesting to me if
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: Golden is active this afternoon, because that really muddies it
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: up even further. I don't really care too much right
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: now about like the Musgraves, the Emmanuel Wilson's.
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: Those guys get you. They get you.
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: They're possible. It's just they don't scare me as much
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: as like the building around the other.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: But Jordan Love.
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: You could pair them up with just two of the
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: three for now and see how it goes if you wanted.
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: But what's your thoughts on this game?
- 1:08:30Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:08:30Speaker 6: I definitely liked it a lot more before the news
- 1:08:33Speaker 6: that Jayden Reid was going to play, because it's already
- 1:08:35Speaker 6: a pretty, you know, dicey situation, and then you throw
- 1:08:39Speaker 6: in another pass catcher it complicates things even more. So
- 1:08:44Speaker 6: I will say I think this is a really good
- 1:08:46Speaker 6: spot for the Packers, like the Bears coming off that big.
- 1:08:49Speaker 5: Win against the Eagles. I think the.
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: Packers take care of business today and win this game
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: pretty easily. And I think they could score a lot
- 1:08:57Speaker 6: of points. So I guess, like I definitely like Josh
- 1:09:01Speaker 6: Jacobs here quite a bit. The prices, the price is good. Uh,
- 1:09:05Speaker 6: you can fit them in any sort of build. I
- 1:09:08Speaker 6: just I think the Packers have success, and I guess
- 1:09:11Speaker 6: he's probably the cleanest.
- 1:09:12Speaker 5: Way to play it. Like just they go through him
- 1:09:16Speaker 5: and he scores multiple touchdowns.
- 1:09:19Speaker 6: I will play some Jordan Love stuff, not as much
- 1:09:21Speaker 6: as I was planning on because of Jaden Reid being in,
- 1:09:24Speaker 6: but I will play Love. You just have really good
- 1:09:28Speaker 6: runbacks on the other side, like Burden Loveland, I'm not
- 1:09:32Speaker 6: opposed as a kias at three k flat. I mean,
- 1:09:34Speaker 6: Roman Dunes has been huge for them. He's out, like
- 1:09:38Speaker 6: multiple guys are gonna have to step up. Everyone is
- 1:09:41Speaker 6: assuming it's Burden, and yes, Burden's I think is a
- 1:09:43Speaker 6: great play on the slade. They're already working him in
- 1:09:46Speaker 6: prior to Rome being out. Now he's he's going to
- 1:09:50Speaker 6: be very involved so I think he's a fine player.
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: Like I said, I am fine with Zukias at three
- 1:09:54Speaker 6: k sneaking in there as well. But you know, I
- 1:09:57Speaker 6: guess with Jayden Reid being in, I don't think as
- 1:10:00Speaker 6: a significant role today, but it's enough to get me
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: off even more of the love stuff. I am gonna
- 1:10:06Speaker 6: play Jordan Love today, but it's gonna be less than
- 1:10:08Speaker 6: it was prior to Jayden.
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: Reid being ruled in. So I'm gonna.
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: Kind of, you know, just bow down and just play
- 1:10:16Speaker 6: a lot of Josh Jacobs today, I think.
- 1:10:18Speaker 5: And so those teams are I was stacking love.
- 1:10:20Speaker 6: Now that I'm kind of getting off of that, it's
- 1:10:22Speaker 6: just gonna be more Josh Jacobs for me.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: So the thing about this spot is, and I've made
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: fun of the homes situation for years, and it's not
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: that the Jordan Love stuff is that much different when
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: you talk about how many guys in the rule otte
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: of it all. But the fact of the matter is
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: it's quite different to me because like Jayden Reid coming back,
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: I just still see limited snaps. The guy's phenomenal out there,
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: but you know he's back, He's ready two weeks or
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: whatever they gave him. I think he's fine, but I
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: just I don't see them just going away from Dontavian
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: Wicks off of a career game. The guy looked incredible
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: out there and looks like he should be out there
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: a lot more anyway, as it is so at thirty
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: nine hundred when he's just one hundred dollars more than
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: Luther Burden, or you can play them both together. That's
- 1:10:58Speaker 3: a really unique way if you run out love Watson
- 1:11:01Speaker 3: Wicks with Loveland, where you're swapping you're using the tight
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: end from the other side in Loveland instead of Burden,
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: but you're using Wis at one hundred bucks more instead
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: of Burden as well. I love stuff like that, and
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: I think that's a great way to put it together.
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: The other thing I have concerned with here just a
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: little bit, is again I'm not as concerned. I'm not
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: like I'm not playing this. Jacobs is a great spot here.
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: But Jacobs did leave the Thanksgiving game for a little while,
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: like he was banged up there, and there was actually
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: thoughts he wasn't coming back. Remember it was they brought
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: in Emmanuel Wilson, like, oh shit, here he comes to
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: jam the Tuddy and so we'll see how that goes.
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: But then afterwards they brought Jacobs back in, so there's like,
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: all right, maybe he's good, and he clearly is, but
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: there was an interview just this week where he didn't
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: sound like one hundred percent fully fresh. He just said,
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: like it's that, that's the game we play. He's gonna
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: be out there, he's gonna be fine.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't see why they wouldn't just
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: continue to throw and with Watson, Dobbs, Wicks, and then
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: you've got Reid back into the fold.
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: We'll see what happens with Golden. I think there's still
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: a big opportunity here. This is a good matchup for
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: the They have a big boy team total. It's great
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: leverage from a DFS perspective. So if others aren't going
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: to take the shot, I am more inclined to take
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: the shot because the best way to pay it off
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: is in DFS hunter K one million, whatever the number
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: is up top.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: There's no better opportunity than this.
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: And back to the point I keep making, but I'll
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: say it one more time, is the Mahomes factor.
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: I think this is a little bit different. Those are
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: healthy offenses where two running backs catch the ball and
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: all this other shit that goes on. This is a
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: guy coming back that I don't think would necessarily get
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: the spot, So I'm still treating it like love Watson,
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: Dobbs Wicks.
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: And whatever falls in from there, I think reads great.
- 1:12:38Speaker 3: But again, if he breaks the slate or something, then
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: that's awesome. I just I'm gonna be building it up
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: with Love Watson Wicks more often than not, and then
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: using Loveland on the other side and just take my
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: shot that way, all right, title go to this final
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: game with you man. We got the Cardinals at home
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: versus the Rams. Certainly something to be said here for
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: the fact that sometimes when you get an eleven game slate,
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: when there is weather on it, when there is all
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: of these factors, it is better just to go to
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: the game that is like this. But I think others
- 1:13:04Speaker 3: have caught onto that at least somewhat, because we are
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: seeing ownership on Pooka on Wilson, but not quite everybody
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: else because of some of the price tags. So what's
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: your thoughts on this game? Final game of the slate,
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: Cardinals at home versus the Rams.
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a good game. In the dome. The Rams
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: I think can move the or can can move the
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: ball at will, and I think percent might have to
- 1:13:23Speaker 4: drop back another forty five times, and any quarterback that
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: does that there's obviously a lot of opportunity for points.
- 1:13:30Speaker 4: The nice thing about this game, too, is even though
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: it's getting ownership, I guess a lot of the Rams
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: stuff is like I like Stafford. I can play them
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: in a lot of different ways, though, I can play
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: him skinny sacks with Pooka or Davante. And while I
- 1:13:42Speaker 4: thought it was Puka, is the right play with them
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: most of the year, Like I truly don't even know.
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: Maybe it's I prefer Davante now in the one KSE
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: Savings just because it is all Davante. When it gets
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: to the red zone, it's wild. I think they're going
- 1:13:55Speaker 4: for the record. Stafford is an MVP candidate. It's unstoppable,
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: so I definitely like that quite a bit. I also
- 1:14:02Speaker 4: like throwing Parkinson into Staffords to make them doubles. I
- 1:14:05Speaker 4: don't like the DeVante Puca Stafford as much because it's
- 1:14:09Speaker 4: so expensive. You just need a lot. Parkinson thirty one
- 1:14:12Speaker 4: hundred pretty low owned onesie position. He's been the tight
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: end one and they love their like he just comes
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: across in the flat or the drag routes. He's opened
- 1:14:21Speaker 4: a lot bootlegs. So yeah, I think Parkinson's a strong
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: tight end play. Tyron Williams is interesting because he eats
- 1:14:28Speaker 4: into all the ownership for Puka Devonte anything being played there.
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: The problem is with Blake Korum involved with Davonte's usage
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: in the goal line, like you really need to get
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: like he needs like two touchdowns. It feels like his
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: touchdown prop on this slate definitely Yeah, minus one ten
- 1:14:45Speaker 4: Davante's minus one fifty five. That is so rare and
- 1:14:49Speaker 4: just shows how this offense has been playing. So he's
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: just a leverage game theory play. I don't even know
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: if I can get their Cardinals stuff. Michael Wilson's the
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: best play. The chalk is played both, I think in
- 1:14:59Speaker 4: my opinion on the slate, he's just what the targets
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: have been insane anytime there's been no Marvin Harrison and
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: then uh, Trey McBride. There's no Greg Georts too, that's something.
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: Note then Trey McBride, if you're gonna spend that tight end,
- 1:15:13Speaker 4: you gotta go way way up for him, but he
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: can be an outlier on this slate. He gets you thirty,
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: another tight end gets twelve Pluster or something like that.
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: You might need him. So Bersette doubles, singles, and I
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: think Stafford doubles or singles are in play. If I
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: to pick one game, this would be the game I
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: would I would target.
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: Yeah, who power you thinking about this one?
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: I think there's a few good you know, to run
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: through their titles, had a bunch of them.
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: What's your your extra takes on this?
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: The chat is talking about some of these three We
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: got the opera guy andre Bocelli over there for three
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: K senior.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: We got a lot of opportunity here. H you know,
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: he gets a touchdown and does the opera celebration, just
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: hits the notes. Maybe we'll see. But what's your thoughts
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: on this game?
- 1:15:53Speaker 5: Hoop? That's funny. That's funny.
- 1:15:54Speaker 6: You said that because at an event last night and
- 1:15:57Speaker 6: the guy sitting next to me said he was going
- 1:15:58Speaker 6: to that dude's concert tonight.
- 1:16:01Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that's a sign he's in he's in downtown Detroit.
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: I think tonight. So that that's funny. Uh yeah, I
- 1:16:10Speaker 5: like a lot of what titles that I agree with.
- 1:16:13Speaker 6: You know, the one thing that definitely stands out to
- 1:16:15Speaker 6: me in this game is like nothing at running back
- 1:16:19Speaker 6: really is appealing to me. Like, I get the Kyron
- 1:16:22Speaker 6: Williams stuff, but it's so hard because they are really
- 1:16:26Speaker 6: using Korum quite a bit. It's probably smart, you know,
- 1:16:30Speaker 6: just to preserve these guys for the playoffs. But Korum
- 1:16:34Speaker 6: the last five games thirteen thirteen, eight seven, seven touches,
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: he's getting full, full drives and they're not even considering
- 1:16:43Speaker 6: bringing in Kyraen w. Williams, Like it would be one
- 1:16:46Speaker 6: thing if play Korum came in. And then they get
- 1:16:48Speaker 6: inside the twenty and they're they bring in Kiren like no,
- 1:16:51Speaker 6: Like they're rolling with Korum and Karen Williams is sixty
- 1:16:55Speaker 6: six hundred and he's getting like twelve thirteen carrier Like
- 1:17:00Speaker 6: that's not enough to me. So I do want to
- 1:17:02Speaker 6: focus in on the passing attack here. The Stafford stuff
- 1:17:06Speaker 6: I think is clearly in play, probably with with two guys,
- 1:17:10Speaker 6: but I agree title like I don't necessarily want Stafford
- 1:17:12Speaker 6: with Puka and DeVante Adams. Adams continues to come in
- 1:17:17Speaker 6: low owned. I think he is. He's definitely got to
- 1:17:20Speaker 6: look at in this game. If you're trying to do
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: it a little different, it would be Devonte Adams only
- 1:17:25Speaker 6: a thousand dollars cheaper than Puka. A lot of people
- 1:17:27Speaker 6: find the money and just go to Puka. Kobe Parkinson
- 1:17:30Speaker 6: looks like the main tight end tier thirty one hundred,
- 1:17:34Speaker 6: very cheap. Stafford I think gets I don't know if
- 1:17:38Speaker 6: you want to call it squeezed or just he's gonna
- 1:17:40Speaker 6: be low owned, I guess just because a lot of
- 1:17:41Speaker 6: people are going to go to Josh Allen up top.
- 1:17:44Speaker 6: He's got an uncomfortable sixty nine hundred dollars price tag.
- 1:17:47Speaker 6: I think he's a phenomenal play.
- 1:17:48Speaker 5: He's been great.
- 1:17:49Speaker 6: And then yeah, the same stuff that you know title
- 1:17:52Speaker 6: mention with perset. He's gonna drop back a ton and
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: anytime like quarterback drops back, they have a chance to
- 1:17:57Speaker 6: score Fantasy points. And that's what you want. Michael Wilson,
- 1:18:01Speaker 6: I mean, gonna be very highly owned, and rightfully so,
- 1:18:04Speaker 6: Trey McBride should have ownership kept in check because he's
- 1:18:08Speaker 6: eight K so I really like McBride. So I love
- 1:18:11Speaker 6: this game all around, outside of the running backs, which
- 1:18:14Speaker 6: is perfect for DFS because I can just eliminate all
- 1:18:16Speaker 6: the running backs and focus in on the quarterbacks and
- 1:18:19Speaker 6: the past catchers and create a lot of unique sort
- 1:18:23Speaker 6: of stacks.
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: Andre got a pretty good prop. Actually, twenty three and
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: a half and two and a half catches.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: That's it.
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: Could be two catches in twenty eight yards and that's it,
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: and so it's useless. But I'm just saying that that
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: is kind of interesting. I'm gonna give more thoughts on
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: in a second, but I got to stay with you
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: for a second, Hoop, A big piece of news just
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: came out that might excite you. Maybe you'd be all
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: in on these Pittsburgh stacks today. Adam Deelin and Marcus
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: Valdez scantling. Your boy could play a lot for the
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: Steelers today.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: How's that sound?
- 1:18:52Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:18:53Speaker 5: That makes me want to bettle lot of money on
- 1:18:55Speaker 5: the team that.
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: The Raves, that team at times, the Ravens.
- 1:19:00Speaker 6: Yeah, man, like what a I don't know that the
- 1:19:03Speaker 6: Steelers organization, Like I get it, like like the Steelers stuff,
- 1:19:06Speaker 6: but you got to be so frustrated as like a
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: Steelers fan. They're like the most as the kids say now,
- 1:19:12Speaker 6: like they're so mid always there's always mid. They're like
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: they're if they're good, they're gonna get their ass kicked
- 1:19:18Speaker 6: at some point. They're just like, no, there's like never
- 1:19:21Speaker 6: anything exciting about the Steelers. And you know, Mike Tomlin
- 1:19:25Speaker 6: has been around forever and he just never They're just never.
- 1:19:29Speaker 6: There's never a ceiling, I guess with the Steelers. So
- 1:19:32Speaker 6: I don't know that sucks. Sucks for the Steelers fans,
- 1:19:34Speaker 6: I guess.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: One other thing that I'll get final thoughts in this
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: game right now just came up. Dalton Kinkaid is on
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: the field in Cleets warming up now, catching passes from
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: Josh Allen, not something he's done in the previous weeks
- 1:19:47Speaker 3: when announced inactive, So expecting Kinkaid to be good to roll,
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: which is is very good.
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: They're just based off of that.
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: So interesting.
- 1:19:55Speaker 5: There.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: One thing I will say about this.
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: Spot in this final game, just to my last thought,
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: was the Parkinson fact. I think for Parkinson, again not
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: fully true because anything can happen, it's the NFL, but
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: for him to be more valuable, I do think it's
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: gonna be where he steals a touchdown or more from
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: Devonte Adams, so I would actually have more interest of
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: stacking the Stafford side and going Stafford Pooka Parkinson.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: Not that you can't do Adams combos.
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: I'm just thinking like, if if Parkinson actually becomes more valuable,
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: it could be at the risk of a touchdown to
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: Devonte Adams, who's been getting those sort of goal line ones.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: One of those goes to Parkinson.
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: We see a little bit better than these stupid seven
- 1:20:29Speaker 3: catch ninety seven yard games we've seen out of Pooka,
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: and maybe you get there that way. And I kind
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: of like Adams in the other side of this game,
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: like if you go Brissett, Wilson, McBride, Adams, Wilson's cheap enough,
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: Brissett's cheap enough, McBride and Adams are expensive, you may
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: have to go to like those Harvey's and Walkers and
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: guys like that at running back. But it would be
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: a way that you could still stack this spot. Kenny
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: brought up a point here too. I'm curious just title
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: if you see this. I know we've already covered it,
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: but the bill's over under my book is still fifty three.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: And a half.
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: But the crazy part is is that it's not moving
- 1:21:03Speaker 3: based on whether like people were originally talking about and
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: stuff but it's much higher to some of these other games.
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: Do you have any anything else like that?
- 1:21:10Speaker 4: Yeah, fifty four and a half versus forty eight and
- 1:21:12Speaker 4: a half on DraftKings. I think it just comes down
- 1:21:15Speaker 4: to the Cardinals versus like the Cardinals moving the ball
- 1:21:18Speaker 4: and putting up points versus the Bengals Joe Burrow and
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Like it's not as comfortable. I mean, as
- 1:21:24Speaker 4: Bersett had a first half touchdown, I feel like that's
- 1:21:27Speaker 4: the stat I've been seeing. He hasn't had one in
- 1:21:29Speaker 4: like weeks. Their offenses can't convert. So yeah, but again
- 1:21:34Speaker 4: with pricing and stuff, that's why total is definitely mean stuff.
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: But when you play Brissette and Michael Wilson and just
- 1:21:40Speaker 4: the limited target tree, like you get a price discount
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: from Burrow and Chase the Josh Allen stuff Stafford DeVante,
- 1:21:47Speaker 4: so they don't need to score as many points that way.
- 1:21:49Speaker 4: But yeah, that's interesting.
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: The one thing is like it's the last like okay, set,
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: there's two end games end the slate, and it's the
- 1:21:55Speaker 3: Bears of the Packers, which again I'm hoping love throws
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: a little bit more to our previous comments. But if
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: those two teams just run the shit out of the
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: ball and just kill the clock. It's gonna be another
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett garbage time to win the slate at the
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: very end when everyone's counting down or hoping he's not
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: scoring points, and we're just gonna see them pile up
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: the round this slate because the other game will be over.
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: I'm guessing so in that example at least, So yeah,
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fun slate. I think that's an
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: interesting spot for sure. The definite standout to me is,
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: you know, this game way not way easier, but feels
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: better to figure out than the Bills Bengals game that
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: Kenny talked about. Even with the big total, we've also
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: seen games like that where it's hard to pinpoint who
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: those actual players are going to be that end up
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: picking them up, or we do get some random items happening.
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: So mixing those two games together could be an idea
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: on this slate when it seems like a lot of
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: people are trying to pick off like two from here,
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: two from there, two from there, just getting in on
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: some of these spots.
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: I definitely think it's it's pretty good. Kenny says, please
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: stop talking to him, but I don't want to have
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: to post my lineup. Yeah, I hear you, man.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: We won't give you stuff away, but nobody's gonna be
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: playing in the nosebley with you at least here. That's
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: you know, gonna be stealing it from you. So you
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: should be safe either way. But we appreciate you. Title
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: anything else you want to talk about. Any final thoughts
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: on this site that you've got.
- 1:23:10Speaker 4: No, it doesn't seem like we're really waiting on much
- 1:23:12Speaker 4: injury stuff either, which is nice. Weather looks pretty set
- 1:23:17Speaker 4: in stone. Yeah, any anything when we went throughout where
- 1:23:21Speaker 4: you thought ownership would either steam or moonwalk back and
- 1:23:25Speaker 4: any certain guys I know, like you're taked on breakdown.
- 1:23:28Speaker 4: And remember like a couple of weeks ago you mentioned
- 1:23:30Speaker 4: a spinal if it was a eight chance later a
- 1:23:32Speaker 4: Bijon slate. I think it was a Bijon slate, Like, yeah,
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: that's something that's something like with how much SIMS run
- 1:23:37Speaker 4: stuff nowadays, that's something I'm trying to look at more.
- 1:23:40Speaker 4: It's like a six percent gap whether they go up
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: or down. I mean that would change the SIMS if
- 1:23:44Speaker 4: you knew that. So any any spot you see that
- 1:23:46Speaker 4: could Moonwalk or Steam.
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Judgins spot is definitely one that
- 1:23:51Speaker 3: if I'm looking at the stone and looking at everything
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: that I see, it kind of makes sense. But then
- 1:23:55Speaker 3: it's like, like, look at the props, that's he's gonna
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: rejuice to the over on twenty two carries and it's
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: like I said, does he fall in the box or not?
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: But everyone's playing Browns.
- 1:24:03Speaker 3: A lot of those Browns lineups have Breese Hall in
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: them and could just have Quinn Shawn Judkins and hope
- 1:24:08Speaker 3: that you don't need them together. I'm just saying that
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: if that happens, you're gonna be disappointing. It's like, damn,
- 1:24:11Speaker 3: I could have had that.
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: That sucks.
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: It was right there, so I saw that one. I
- 1:24:15Speaker 3: mentioned it earlier. I think a Chan kind of stays
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: at least to where he's at. I don't know if
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: it gets much lower than what we have him at,
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: but I definitely think he kind of stays in that
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: range because people just feel much better about James Cook.
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: They feel much better about just dropping down the hall
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: and spending up. If they don't love all these or
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: they can't figure out these value plays, I guess the
- 1:24:33Speaker 3: only other one, but it's not really his ownership number
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: as much as like in a good spot based on
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: the stone that could still work out is Dereck Henry,
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: who I talked about earlier a little bit.
- 1:24:43Speaker 4: What about that James Cook twenty seven percent number? Is
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: that gonna be percent.
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: Even higher in high scho Maybe not highering thirty seven,
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but much higher than the twenty seven you
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: announced in the first part of that so.
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: Big big lift. It says it just got a now
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: wrap up or posted Dalton and Kaid is officially active,
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: So good to roll there on that news and all
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: the other stuff will start pouring in in the next
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: five minutes or so. Hoop anything from you, any final thoughts,
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: anything else you want to add on here before we
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: get here.
- 1:25:12Speaker 5: No, I think solid Joe kind of went through everything.
- 1:25:16Speaker 6: The other guys can add to that list, and I
- 1:25:19Speaker 6: just wanted to pull up the ownership real quick. Was
- 1:25:22Speaker 6: Bowers I think has a chance to get We're showing
- 1:25:25Speaker 6: you so we have it much lower than the industry.
- 1:25:27Speaker 6: We're showing seven, and I think that is probably pretty realistic.
- 1:25:30Speaker 6: Everyone else has it much higher. I think he is
- 1:25:32Speaker 6: going to be six seven eight percent own, so he's
- 1:25:37Speaker 6: one that that definitely has a chance to go overlook.
- 1:25:40Speaker 6: But it is a tough spot and you know that
- 1:25:42Speaker 6: someone in the chat did have the comment that they
- 1:25:45Speaker 6: have been getting beat up the Broncos by tight Ends.
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: I think he is interesting and a guy that could
- 1:25:51Speaker 6: go backwards a little bit, but solid slate overall as
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