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#0132_ STORY INSPIRE: Drones, Mangione & The Business of Syria · INSPIRE STORY

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. A
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Speaker 1: friend of the show, Bashar al-Assad, his wife, Asma, who,
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Speaker 1: by the way, is suffering from leukemia. And it's very,
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Speaker 1: I think, sick that a lot of people that are
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Speaker 1: celebrating the downfall of the Assads, who've been friends of
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Speaker 1: the program for years, are cheering on Luigi Mangione for
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Speaker 1: shooting a health care executive And yet applauding the downfall
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Speaker 1: of a woman with leukemia. And that makes you think.
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Speaker 1: And were the Assads perfect? No, probably not.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Is anyone perfect? But now that they're gone, you know,
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Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know the rebels. We're just
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Speaker 1: calling them the rebels are here. And I'm sure the
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Speaker 1: rebels will be lovely. Lovely. That's the thing about the
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Speaker 1: Middle East. When one government leaves, everybody celebrates because that
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Speaker 1: government is usually heinous and everybody goes, good, they're gone.
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Speaker 1: You know what they did? They tortured people and they
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Speaker 1: put them in cages and they butchered people and they
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Speaker 1: poisoned people. Everybody applauds. It's the right thing to do.
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Speaker 1: We all feel good about it. We're like, good, get
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Speaker 1: them out of there. You see that? The rape rooms?
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Speaker 1: And then you go, all right, so who's on deck?
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Speaker 1: Who's next? What are their plans? Do they involve rooms
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Speaker 1: of rape? Do they involve torture? Do they involve any
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Speaker 1: jail cells? Will there be a religious police, perhaps? It's tough.
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Speaker 1: It's tough to get excited about regime change in the
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Speaker 1: Middle East. I'm an older man. I'm 39. Many of
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Speaker 1: you younger people listen to this show and You know,
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Speaker 1: you tend to look at regime change in the Middle
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Speaker 1: East like a wide-eyed young person. Maybe in your first
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Speaker 1: year of college, you're getting laid, you're having fun, you
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Speaker 1: rush a sorority, you pledge a frat, you're meeting your
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Speaker 1: lifelong friends. It's fun, it's parents' weekend, you're growing into
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Speaker 1: the person you've always been meant to be. That is
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Speaker 1: the type of person who.
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Speaker 1: Looks at regime change in the Middle East with excitement.
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Speaker 1: You're in awe. Oh my God, they lived under this totalitarian, brutal,
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Speaker 1: evil regime. Jessica, you have no idea how bad, like
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Speaker 1: some of the people didn't even eat. I know, I
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Speaker 1: feel you. As you get older, let's say if you
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Speaker 1: are a, 39-year-old ex-cocaine addict, homosexual, multimillionaire, you tend to
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Speaker 1: look at regime change in the Middle East. Not as
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Speaker 1: a negative, just as kind of like, hey, this is
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Speaker 1: happening now, huh? That's what you look at as you
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Speaker 1: get older, because I've been around long enough to know
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Speaker 1: that the rebels, and God bless the rebels, the rebels
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Speaker 1: are led by Hayat Tahir al-Sham, A group that grew
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Speaker 1: from an al-Qaeda affiliate. Its leader, Abu Mohammed al-Jilani, was
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Speaker 1: involved with militants battling American forces in Iraq following their
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Speaker 1: 2003 invasion. And the State Department has a $ 10 million
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Speaker 1: bounty for information on him. So he's on deck. He's
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Speaker 1: on deck. He's up next. Now, listen, do I blame
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Speaker 1: him for fighting us in Iraq? Not really. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what's he going to do, right? We get there in Iraq.
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Speaker 1: He's trying to establish a caliphate. We're getting in the
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Speaker 1: way of that. This is the thing about the Middle East,
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Speaker 1: by the way. There's very few people in the Middle
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Speaker 1: East who under scrutiny are are going to really hold
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Speaker 1: up when it comes to the people that want to
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Speaker 1: run Syria. There's not that many people that want to
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Speaker 1: run Syria that you'd have at your house at a barbecue.
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Speaker 1: And when they started talking about the beliefs they had,
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Speaker 1: you'd go, huh, interesting. Most of these people are religious fundamentalists.
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Speaker 1: They are militarists, meaning that like Assad. They have a
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Speaker 1: military dictatorship. It's a strong man. It's an authoritarian leader.
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Speaker 1: That's not a region that has democracy in their bones.
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Speaker 1: They don't. It's a region that is run by petro-dictatorships
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Speaker 1: that lean on enforced religiosity. So as an older person,
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Speaker 1: as a person that has been around for a long time,
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Speaker 1: I am not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not happy or sad. I'm happy that the people
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Speaker 1: got out of the butcher jail or the slaughter prison,
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Speaker 1: and I hope they enjoy the two weeks they have
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Speaker 1: before they're in the next one because you just start eventually,
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Speaker 1: and again, it's nobody's fault. It's someone's fault, but it
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Speaker 1: ain't my fault. And as you get older, you actually
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Speaker 1: stomp When things aren't your fault, you have to release
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Speaker 1: yourself from them. This is true. This is controversial. People
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Speaker 1: actually don't love this, but it is true. I didn't
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Speaker 1: fuck up Syria. I'm probably, and I know this may
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Speaker 1: shock you, I'm not going to fix Syria. You see,
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to not have pancakes. I'm trying to make
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Speaker 1: a better choice. You see, I'm not trying to fix Syria.
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in our country are,
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Speaker 1: and they have been. They've been fighting proxy wars in
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Speaker 1: Syria with Russia for a very long time. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the Syrian people are great. I really am. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: they're lovely, and I don't love the, you know, can
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Speaker 1: we get the photo of that little, that toddler getting
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Speaker 1: out of that prison? It's a perfect example of, you know,
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Speaker 1: this emotional appeal, which obviously we're all human beings. We
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Speaker 1: all have. Make it bigger. This is a toddler getting
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Speaker 1: out of the Assad prison. And of course, your immediate,
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Speaker 1: your immediate response is this. Oh my God, the brutality,
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Speaker 1: the horror. To which I say, yes, but also, what
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Speaker 1: did he do? Why is he in that jail? Are
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Speaker 1: you naive enough to believe children are never dangerous? Are
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Speaker 1: you naive enough to believe that there's an age at
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Speaker 1: which children can never be dangerous? What was he trying
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Speaker 1: to do? Why was he in that cell? I have
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Speaker 1: had no explanation for that. If you think that two-year-old
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Speaker 1: isn't going to get out of that cell and raise
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Speaker 1: havoc in the new Syria, I mean hell, the things
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Speaker 1: he'll do. Can you imagine that? This kid has more
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Speaker 1: cred than anybody. That is the next leader. That is
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Speaker 1: the next leader that is going to destroy the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: That is the hardest photo I've ever seen in my life.
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Speaker 1: Other than the Trump photo of him getting shot and
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Speaker 1: then pumping his fist full of blood, going fight, fight, fight.
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Speaker 1: That two-year-old walking out of that jail cell is the
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Speaker 1: hardest photo I've seen in my life. There is nothing,
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Speaker 1: nothing that will ever compete with that photo. That guy
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Speaker 1: is going to, he is going to be a dictator.
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Speaker 1: And if he is not, it is because he has
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Speaker 1: made a lot of mistakes. But I'll tell you right now,
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Speaker 1: nothing sets you on a path of domination like that photo.
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Speaker 1: Did you see the title of this article? Yeah, toddler
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Speaker 1: released from jail with hopes of Syria on his shoulders.
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Speaker 1: Collapse of the Assad regime brings exuberant euphoria to Syrians
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Speaker 1: across the globe while new rebel leader faces new challenges ahead.
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Speaker 1: This photo has come to symbolize the brutality. Okay, we can,
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Speaker 1: has come to symbolize the brutality of the Assad regime,
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Speaker 1: which again, we are not minimizing, by the way. I
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Speaker 1: don't want you to hear, just because I'm friends with
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Speaker 1: Assad and his wife and his children, and I'll probably
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Speaker 1: have dinner with him in Moscow, it doesn't mean that
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Speaker 1: I don't recognize that mistakes were made. What I'm saying
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Speaker 1: is the rebels, the rebels, whoever these people are, I'm
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Speaker 1: hoping and praying that they create a pluralistic, beautiful society
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Speaker 1: in Syria that respects human rights and and the rights
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Speaker 1: of women, and they're a good partner, and that's the hope.
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm not, am I, I'm just
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Speaker 1: saying the likelihood of that is low. That's all. The
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Speaker 1: likelihood of that is low, and it is because I
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Speaker 1: am old enough to have seen this movie before. I've
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Speaker 1: seen it before. Now, I know they're releasing this one
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Speaker 1: around Christmas. They're releasing this one around Donald Trump's inauguration.
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Speaker 1: They're really trying to get stuff going, aren't they, before
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Speaker 1: his inauguration? We'll talk about the fake alien invasion in
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Speaker 1: a minute. But they're really trying to leave him a mess,
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Speaker 1: you know? They're really trying to get things going. They
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Speaker 1: go to the Ukraine. They go, yeah. shoot these long
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Speaker 1: range missiles into Moscow. See how we can fuck all
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Speaker 1: of this shit up. Then they're like, you know, let's
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Speaker 1: get Syria going. Because by the way, none of this
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Speaker 1: is an accident. Like the rebels don't just accidentally topple
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Speaker 1: the regime in Syria with a month before the inauguration.
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Speaker 1: I hope listeners of the show are smart enough to
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Speaker 1: know that this is not an accidental thing. Again, I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying it's a bad thing or a good thing.
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Speaker 1: It's a thing. I'm hoping, I'm happy that that two-year-old
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Speaker 1: got out of jail. God knows what he'll do, but
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Speaker 1: I'm happy. And I think, again, he's setting himself up
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Speaker 1: with that one photo alone to be a significant player
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Speaker 1: in Middle East politics later on if he survives. But
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Speaker 1: know this and be aware of it. Be aware of
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Speaker 1: the fact that if in a year or two we
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Speaker 1: are again at war in Syria, if we are again...
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Speaker 1: In the Middle East, fighting with the new Syrian government,
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Speaker 1: the new leader. Don't be shocked. Don't be shocked and
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Speaker 1: do not... I want you to remember this show when
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Speaker 1: I told you. This is how things in that region
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Speaker 1: of the world work. It's almost like people around the
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Speaker 1: world value different things and you cannot... Always make people
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Speaker 1: see things your way. You certainly can't do it at
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Speaker 1: the barrel of a gun. We've tried to do that
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Speaker 1: for many years. Also, this idea of endless immigration is
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Speaker 1: the hope, this utopian dream, that everybody from all over
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Speaker 1: the world that comes to America is doing it to
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Speaker 1: be an American and not because they want an economic opportunity.
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Speaker 1: They're doing it to be an American. That's a big
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Speaker 1: utopian dream. There's a lot of people coming to America
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Speaker 1: probably because they want to make money. They want to
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Speaker 1: send money back to the country they live in. And
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Speaker 1: they want to retain a lot of the customs and
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Speaker 1: the culture of the place that they came from. And
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Speaker 1: some of those customs and some of that culture is
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Speaker 1: probably diametrically opposed to American culture. And it's not as
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Speaker 1: easy to assimilate certain people. It's not about race. It's
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Speaker 1: not about anything. It's about culture. And it's about the
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Speaker 1: ideal of what a country should be. Now there's people
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Speaker 1: in America that disagree on lots of things. We have
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Speaker 1: vastly different views on lots of things, but there are
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Speaker 1: core principles that we do agree on. We agree on
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Speaker 1: freedom of speech. Some of us, we agree on freedom
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Speaker 1: of religion. We agree on, on some of the core principles.
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Speaker 1: And if you're importing people from parts of the world
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Speaker 1: that have no tradition of that, that do not believe
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Speaker 1: in that, that actually believe that is an affront to
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Speaker 1: their culture and the way that they live, um, you're
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Speaker 1: going to have a little bit of a sticky situation.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be an issue. So that's why this
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Speaker 1: beautiful movie of the Assad's fleeing Syria released on Christmas, um,
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Speaker 1: You will see again. This is not a movie that
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Speaker 1: doesn't have sequels. This is a movie that every few years,
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Speaker 1: the news goes, we are overjoyed to bring you some
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Speaker 1: great news from the Middle East. Finally, the long-suffering people
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Speaker 1: of blank have toppled the regime of blank. And Blank has,
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Speaker 1: it's his man lips. You can do it man lips.
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Speaker 1: And Blank has fleed the country and has been given
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Speaker 1: a home in Russia or Iran. And they have fled
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Speaker 1: the country. And here all the people are jubilant. They're happy,
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Speaker 1: as I am for the people. And now they have
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Speaker 1: the tough, and this is the way Americans talk and
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Speaker 1: they do in the press, they go, They have a
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Speaker 1: tough road ahead. They have a tough road ahead and
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Speaker 1: they have some real challenges to building a government. They
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Speaker 1: have a tough road ahead and real challenges to building
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Speaker 1: a government and we wish them the best. Now, of course,
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Speaker 1: we're over there telling them exactly who to pick or
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Speaker 1: how to pick. We're trying. Whether it happens or not,
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Speaker 1: we're trying. We're trying to do that. Let's take a look, though.
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Speaker 1: And this is the reality show that I want to see.
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Speaker 1: You know, everybody likes these shows in L.A. or New York. But,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're all boring, right? These real estate shows.
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Speaker 1: We've seen all of them before. We've seen all of
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Speaker 1: the houses. And you go, you know, I get it.
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Speaker 1: You know, we all know how a basketball player or
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Speaker 1: an actor or a musician or a finance guy lives
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Speaker 1: or a tech guy.
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Speaker 4: We know.
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Speaker 1: We don't need like season eight of Selling Sunset. We're
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Speaker 1: aware of how these people live and you know, they
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Speaker 1: got a pool. Ooh, it's an infinity pool. It looks
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Speaker 1: like it's going off the edge, but it's not. We
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Speaker 1: know how they live, but this is the show that
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Speaker 1: I would like, which is we go around the world
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Speaker 1: into the palaces of toppled dictators that at one time
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Speaker 1: we propped up and gave them the money to do
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Speaker 1: all of this. Because this is beautiful. He was modern.
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Speaker 1: The Assads were modern. They had a modern aesthetic. Pause
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Speaker 1: this for a minute. Many dictators, and this is one
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Speaker 1: of their shortcomings, aren't evolved in terms of their aesthetic.
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Speaker 1: They don't, it's not working. It's old. It's very old.
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Speaker 1: It's dated. It's stuffy. The decor is, it just feels
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Speaker 1: like it isn't what it needs to be. And what's
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Speaker 1: nice about the Assad torture palace is how clean it is.
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Speaker 1: It's metallic. It's a little cold. I think that's maybe
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Speaker 1: the critique. You got to find the balance. This is hard.
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Speaker 1: You know, A lot of these palaces, Saddam's, for example,
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Speaker 1: very gaudy, very big. You go very big, very gaudy. Yes, regal,
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Speaker 1: but a little silly, a little ridiculous, over the top,
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Speaker 1: you know? What the Assads have done is they've created
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Speaker 1: a space, which I think is very important, that feels
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Speaker 1: new and clean. Clean lines, metal... kind of marble, nice finishes, uncluttered,
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Speaker 1: a little stark. Play the rest. A little stark. Perhaps
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Speaker 1: that's the critique. There is wood paneling that warms it up.
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Speaker 1: You have wood paneling in the library. You have, of course,
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Speaker 1: the door, the very thick door. If any of the
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Speaker 1: palace servants get going or if there's a coup, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to have the thick doors or
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Speaker 1: if your wife gets cute. You got to have all
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Speaker 1: of the thick... doors but again I mean nice bright
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Speaker 1: well-lit kind of nice as a dictator palace goes these
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Speaker 1: next guys coming in have big shoes to fill a
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Speaker 1: little Vegas in the bathroom do I love it do
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Speaker 1: I love a little Vegas a little Vegas in the
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Speaker 1: bathroom not ideal I love the ceiling I like the
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Speaker 1: chandeliers I I got to be honest, I like it.
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people, there's a few different
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Speaker 1: styles here happening, but I think they're all brought together
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Speaker 1: by this kind of sense of drama because he knows
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Speaker 1: how to create drama in a space. And you're doing
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Speaker 1: it with kind of this marriage of this new modernist architecture,
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Speaker 1: but also these large chandeliers and this wood paneling Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, you're, you're basically, so let's, let's find out
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Speaker 1: about these rebels. Cause I'm excited about these rebels and
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Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to listen to this show and
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Speaker 1: think for even one second that I am a Debbie
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Speaker 1: Downer or that I'm being cynical. I'm excited about the rebels. I,
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Speaker 1: and that's, that's what's being said probably somewhere in Washington,
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Speaker 1: DC right now. I am excited about the rebels. First,
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Speaker 1: The rebel coalition, now this is going to shock you,
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Speaker 1: appears to be fragile. You see? This is the thing
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Speaker 1: with rebels. They really agree that Assad's got to go.
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Speaker 1: We do not like this guy. He's got to go.
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Speaker 1: Everybody gets on board for that. This is how every coup,
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Speaker 1: every government that's being toppled works. All the rebels get
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Speaker 1: together and they have a meeting and it's fun. They
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Speaker 1: sit around the fire and they go, hey, I hate you.
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Speaker 1: You hate me. I raped your wife. You killed me. mine.
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Speaker 1: But here's what we're going to do. Here's what we're
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Speaker 1: going to do. Now you believe in this version of
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Speaker 1: the religion. I believe in that version. You believe the
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Speaker 1: woman should be dressed in a full garbage bag. I
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Speaker 1: believe she can have the slits out the eyes or whatever.
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Speaker 1: And I want to kill you and you want to
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Speaker 1: kill me. And that's the way we do it. However...
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Speaker 1: What we're going to do right now is put our swords,
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Speaker 1: lay our swords down. There's too much to be gained
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Speaker 1: from a union. So all these rebels, Turkish-backed rebels, you
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Speaker 1: have rebels from Syria that are getting support, probably, I
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Speaker 1: would guess, from maybe us. You have all these different
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Speaker 1: rebel groups. And together they made it happen. Now, the
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Speaker 1: HTS coalition of rebels had started outlining the basics of
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Speaker 1: a state, publishing prison sentence guidelines for theft and criminal damage,
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Speaker 1: as well as a plea not to settle scores or
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Speaker 1: seek revenge. However, it remains unclear whether What the rebel
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Speaker 1: group has in mind for Syria's future and stories of
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Speaker 1: war-torn states rising from the Iron Fist dictatorship to flourish
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Speaker 1: into democracies are rare. And by the way, remember, I
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Speaker 1: call this, Syria's will be as challenging as any. These
21:19
Speaker 1: are the two words that will always be used here.
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Speaker 1: They go, this is very challenging. Our friend Luigi Mangione
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Speaker 1: is finally in prison. Um, and of course he is
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Speaker 1: the hot, uh, murderer of the United healthcare CEO. He
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Speaker 1: is the hot Italian anarchist murderer who had a secret
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Speaker 1: gay life where he had a sugar baby relationships with
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Speaker 1: black men. How fucking hot is that? Let's all stroke
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Speaker 1: to that. And you know, he was buying Gucci sneakers
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Speaker 1: for some black guys who are probably pounding him out.
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Speaker 1: Luigi Mangione, God bless him. That's the deal. That's what
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Speaker 1: it is. Um, The way it's going to work, by
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Speaker 1: the way, is like over the next few days or weeks,
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Speaker 1: they're going to find out a lot about him and
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Speaker 1: it'll probably test like who supports him and who doesn't
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Speaker 1: because they're going to be like, wait a minute. So
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Speaker 1: he was a socialist anarchist, but he was also like
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Speaker 1: right wing and racist, but he was also like objective
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Speaker 1: flying black men, but he also like didn't come out
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Speaker 1: of the closet. And he also like fetishized black men,
22:24
Speaker 1: but he also like, like watch the discourse of is
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Speaker 1: going to go off the rails for Luigi Mangione. There
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Speaker 1: is no hero in America. We can't have a hero.
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Speaker 1: We don't get a hero in this country, by the way.
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Speaker 1: So if you think Luigi Mangione is your hero, wait
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Speaker 1: a week. It's not going to happen. We don't get
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Speaker 1: a hero because he was like everyone else. He's an American.
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Speaker 1: So it's going to come out. All these different things
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Speaker 1: about his life are going to come out, and we
22:51
Speaker 1: don't get... and don't deserve a hero. And we're going
22:57
Speaker 1: to go through every single thing that this guy ever did.
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Speaker 1: Some of his sugar baby tricks are going to be
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Speaker 1: out there going, you know, he said a few things
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Speaker 1: that really made me uncomfortable. He didn't really respect my boundaries.
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Speaker 1: But what I like, by the way, as someone who's
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Speaker 1: bought sneakers for a few twinks, what I like is
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Speaker 1: that they've all kept their mouth shut. None of them
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Speaker 1: have appeared publicly, you know, any of his relationships or whatnot.
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Speaker 1: Number one, he had, this was a side of himself
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Speaker 1: that I believed he was keeping a little quiet. Some
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Speaker 1: of my friends who are, you know, pretending to be
23:35
Speaker 1: bisexual are very excited that they finally have representation in
23:38
Speaker 1: Luigi Mangione. I don't know about his sexuality, but everybody
23:48
Speaker 1: is speculating about his deal. But however it is, Um,
23:54
Speaker 1: it is kind of being reported that he did have
23:58
Speaker 1: these gay relationships with, uh, men of color who he
24:05
Speaker 1: would visit and treat nicely. If you bring up the article,
24:10
Speaker 1: Luigi Mangione secret gay life. And this has been fascinating.
24:15
Speaker 1: A lot of people who are, uh, you know, they're just,
24:20
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. Um, Yeah. According to Radar Online, Luigi
24:28
Speaker 1: Mangione would travel to gay bars. He'd be the only
24:33
Speaker 1: white guy there. And he was a closeted homosexual with
24:38
Speaker 1: a predilection. I don't know if predilection is the right word,
24:41
Speaker 1: but he had a preference for African-American men. Somebody said,
24:47
Speaker 1: we met at a gay club in Baltimore. He was
24:49
Speaker 1: one of the only white guys in the club, and
24:50
Speaker 1: he bought me a drink. Sean said the two went
24:53
Speaker 1: home together that night and enjoyed a long-distance relationship on
24:56
Speaker 1: and off for the next several years. He would see
24:58
Speaker 1: me when he was in town, and he was very generous.
25:01
Speaker 1: He would always buy me something nice from Hermes or
25:03
Speaker 1: Louis Vuitton. Those are my favorites, Sean claimed. He was
25:09
Speaker 1: a good guy, this guy. I mean, here's the thing.
25:11
Speaker 1: It's coming out. All of these things that are coming
25:14
Speaker 1: out about him aren't necessarily bad. He's spending money. Another
25:20
Speaker 1: man identified only as Tommy said Mangione clearly had a type.
25:24
Speaker 1: He was big into hip hop and black culture. They
25:27
Speaker 1: think pieces are coming by the way, but the two
25:30
Speaker 1: apparently kept their relationship shallow. We never talked politics or
25:34
Speaker 1: anything like that. Tommy said, much like Sean Mangione showered
25:37
Speaker 1: him with pricey gifts. I'm an expensive friend. Luigi knew
25:41
Speaker 1: that and made sure that I was properly taken care of.
25:45
Speaker 1: So he's having fun. in Maryland blowing bags out or
25:49
Speaker 1: getting his back blown out and maybe doing both. And
25:50
Speaker 1: then he has this back surgery and he cannot go
25:53
Speaker 1: to Maryland and hook up with dudes. And he starts
25:56
Speaker 1: to go nuts. And then of course, I understand that
26:00
Speaker 1: he becomes enamored with the inequity in the healthcare system
26:04
Speaker 1: and the evil depravity of our healthcare system, which we
26:07
Speaker 1: all know about. My mother was in a public institution
26:09
Speaker 1: until she died. And we used to have to fight
26:11
Speaker 1: with Medicare to cover things. I'm well aware of the well, um,
26:17
Speaker 1: placed rage at American insurance companies. But it is interesting
26:22
Speaker 1: to look at the psychological profile of this guy. He
26:26
Speaker 1: was an Ivy league, good looking, well-educated, successful guy who's
26:31
Speaker 1: out there having fun doing all these things. And then
26:36
Speaker 1: something happens. He has a back surgery and he withdraws
26:41
Speaker 1: from society. He's in pain. He can not, do the things.
26:46
Speaker 1: His spine gave out and he went off the grid.
26:50
Speaker 1: He got a gun. He made a plan. He followed
26:54
Speaker 1: through and now he's in jail and everybody loves him.
26:58
Speaker 1: And who's the jury going to be? You know, that's
27:03
Speaker 1: the real question. Now, obviously the trial, it's going to
27:05
Speaker 1: be a year from now. People forget. I love all
27:08
Speaker 1: my friends are like, nobody's going to convict him. I go, dude,
27:11
Speaker 1: people forget. There's one of my friends goes, There'll be 100,000
27:14
Speaker 1: person protests at his trial. I go, dude, it's going
27:17
Speaker 1: to be a year and a half from now. Everyone's
27:19
Speaker 1: going to forget. I'm sorry. I know that right now
27:23
Speaker 1: it is the biggest story in the world. It is drama.
27:27
Speaker 1: It is forcing a long overdue conversation about health care.
27:31
Speaker 1: But in a year and a half, whatever his trial is,
27:35
Speaker 1: I don't think you can have 100,000 people. I don't
27:40
Speaker 1: think so. Americans move on pretty quickly. And I don't
27:46
Speaker 1: know how they're going to, it's going to be tough
27:47
Speaker 1: to find people that don't have a negative, because one
27:52
Speaker 1: of the questions they're going to have to ask when
27:54
Speaker 1: they put people in the jury box is, do you
27:56
Speaker 1: have a negative opinion of the healthcare industry? And most
28:01
Speaker 1: people are going to say yes. And the people that
28:05
Speaker 1: don't are crazy. They're like psychotic. Anyone that doesn't have
28:10
Speaker 1: a negative opinion of the healthcare industry in America works
28:15
Speaker 1: for the healthcare industry. There's no other way to do it.
28:19
Speaker 1: There's no other person in this country that doesn't have
28:24
Speaker 1: a negative opinion of the healthcare business. I mean, could
28:29
Speaker 1: you imagine? Are you sure?
28:30
Speaker 4: Yep.
28:32
Speaker 1: No negative feelings about the healthcare business.
28:34
Speaker 5: No.
28:34
Speaker 1: None at all. You sure about that?
28:36
Speaker 4: Okay.
28:37
Speaker 1: And what company are you the CEO of? Blue Cross
28:39
Speaker 1: Blue Shield. You have to be. You are either the
28:43
Speaker 1: CEO of a healthcare company in America or you hate them.
28:49
Speaker 1: Even the rank and file people that work there probably
28:51
Speaker 1: hate them. But if you're not a genuine, like, high-level
28:56
Speaker 1: executive or CEO, you hate them. So the state who's
29:03
Speaker 1: prosecuting this case has to hope that the jury is
29:08
Speaker 1: 12 healthcare company CEOs. That's it. That's what they really
29:15
Speaker 1: have to help. Otherwise, otherwise they might be in a
29:19
Speaker 1: little bit of trouble. Now they're going to paint him
29:22
Speaker 1: as a psychopath who just wanted to kill anybody. That's
29:28
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. They're going to say he
29:29
Speaker 1: had a manifesto. He was a radical, uh, He acted
29:36
Speaker 1: out violently and the target of his violence was it's irrelevant.
29:45
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29:46
Speaker 1: the target of his violence was irrelevant. Now the defense,
29:53
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29:56
Speaker 1: and maybe by reasons of insanity, had a temporary lapse
30:00
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30:06
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30:10
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30:11
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30:18
Speaker 1: seeing this. Mangione was wildly active online. Even had Letterboxd
30:22
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30:26
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30:30
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30:35
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30:36
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30:39
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30:42
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30:44
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34:29
Speaker 1: with disease than the rest of the world. This is
34:32
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34:40
Speaker 1: Louis C.K., and he made a good point that People
34:45
Speaker 1: in other countries, like doctors in other countries, are very
34:50
Speaker 1: different about life and death than they are in America. America,
34:55
Speaker 1: it's about winning. Doctors want to keep you alive at
35:01
Speaker 1: all costs, really no matter what your quality of life is,
35:07
Speaker 1: because it's about winning. And doctors in France, for example,
35:12
Speaker 1: will go, yeah, she could die. That happens. People die.
35:17
Speaker 1: But in America, it is, you know, it's the movie Rudy.
35:22
Speaker 1: Like it is, we are fighting to win. And it
35:26
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if a person is a vegetable or It
35:32
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if a person has zero quality of life.
35:37
Speaker 1: It is about the numbers. America is about the numbers.
35:43
Speaker 1: And it's about winning. And you win by going out
35:49
Speaker 1: to the waiting room and going, they are still with us.
35:52
Speaker 1: And they don't know who you are. They cannot speak.
35:56
Speaker 1: They cannot lift their hand. But they are here. Then
36:00
Speaker 1: you throw them in an assisted living. And then they're there,
36:04
Speaker 1: and they're in an assisted living where nurses, many of
36:09
Speaker 1: them good people from other parts of the world, wipe
36:13
Speaker 1: their asses and feed them. And you keep them alive
36:17
Speaker 1: in the same way that you would keep a cat
36:21
Speaker 1: or a dog alive at the end of their life
36:24
Speaker 1: when they could no longer run around in the yard. Like,
36:27
Speaker 1: the dog can no longer play fetch. The dog is
36:31
Speaker 1: no longer... When you walk into the house, the dog's
36:35
Speaker 1: not excited to see you. The dog can kind of
36:38
Speaker 1: barely raise its head from the bed, and it looks
36:41
Speaker 1: at you with those eyes, and what the dog is
36:43
Speaker 1: saying is, kill me. But you can't. You have to
36:46
Speaker 1: sit down with the dog and explain it's about the numbers.
36:50
Speaker 1: It's not about you. It is not about you. People
36:56
Speaker 1: are living longer than ever before, but they're not actually healthier.
36:59
Speaker 1: And the number of years spent sick is only growing,
37:02
Speaker 1: according to a massive new study published in the journal.
37:07
Speaker 1: It's the JAMA. I forgot. Whatever it is. The New
37:09
Speaker 1: American Medical Journal or whatever. While researchers found that this
37:13
Speaker 1: is a global phenomenon. The so-called health span, lifespan gap
37:20
Speaker 1: is wider in the U.S. than anywhere else in the
37:22
Speaker 1: world because it's about winning. In America, the gap between
37:26
Speaker 1: how long people live and how long they live in
37:29
Speaker 1: good health is over 12 years. So the goal here
37:35
Speaker 1: is to keep you sick and alive for 12 years,
37:40
Speaker 1: if possible. If you can be sick for 12 years...
37:46
Speaker 1: on average in this country and still work and still consume,
37:51
Speaker 1: and still contribute to the economy, if you have only
37:56
Speaker 1: one working finger left, and that finger can press the
38:03
Speaker 1: DoorDash button that says order now, we keep you alive.
38:09
Speaker 1: We do not care about quality of life in America.
38:13
Speaker 1: It is not about quality of life. It is the
38:16
Speaker 1: fact that you are here. You're in America. That's it.
38:20
Speaker 1: That is all you get. You're here. You are participating
38:25
Speaker 1: with everybody else. You could be a billionaire too. That
38:29
Speaker 1: is the ethos. So sick people can still consume. They
38:36
Speaker 1: can still order food to their house. Many of them
38:40
Speaker 1: are on very pricey pharmaceutical drugs that we would rather
38:44
Speaker 1: keep them on. And they're alive. They're alive when their
38:50
Speaker 1: son is incarcerated. They're alive when their daughter overdoses in
38:55
Speaker 1: the bathroom. They are alive for the beautiful moments. We
38:59
Speaker 1: keep them alive for the beautiful moments. They are alive
39:03
Speaker 1: when their sister is taken to jail because of identity theft.
39:08
Speaker 1: They are alive when their husband is laid off from
39:11
Speaker 1: his job. We want them here to experience the beautiful moments.
39:18
Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to. We will not
39:20
Speaker 1: let you die in this country if you can still
39:23
Speaker 1: consume and work. Not if you're too, you can't be too.
39:30
Speaker 1: expensive to keep alive. That's when the Brian Thompson's come
39:33
Speaker 1: in that you, but you can live sick. That's what
39:38
Speaker 1: America is about living sick. We don't mind that you
39:46
Speaker 1: can vote sick. You can go and do the things
39:50
Speaker 1: we need you to do sick. The main takeaway is that, yes,
39:55
Speaker 1: lifespan has been increasing over the past two decades, but
39:57
Speaker 1: a lot of those years are not being spent in
39:59
Speaker 1: a healthy state. Not only does it inflate healthcare costs
40:03
Speaker 1: to individuals in their countries, it's simply not what most
40:05
Speaker 1: people want. If more people lived healthy lifestyles, a balanced diet,
40:12
Speaker 1: healthy eating, heart healthy, exercising, maintaining a healthy weight, and
40:16
Speaker 1: so on, the gap would most likely narrow, but we
40:18
Speaker 1: can't rely on individual willpower alone. Interesting. They agree that
40:24
Speaker 1: both behavioral changes and more effective healthcare practices will be
40:27
Speaker 1: crucial to closing the health span, lifespan gap, which is
40:31
Speaker 1: so funny, the rage at RFK, the anger that he
40:35
Speaker 1: would go in there and smash the FDA, which he should,
40:38
Speaker 1: you know, They're clearly, and I read some article in
40:43
Speaker 1: the Atlantic. It was kind of funny. It was like
40:46
Speaker 1: one article and the guy's like, maybe sugar is good
40:48
Speaker 1: when you're sick. Like every single article. And you clearly
40:51
Speaker 1: Nestle like paying him money. Cause I have a little cold.
40:54
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you have a cold, you're like, well,
40:56
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have any sugar, but you're like, maybe I
40:59
Speaker 1: can find one article. Maybe there's one article out there
41:04
Speaker 1: that says it's good. And lo and behold, it took
41:08
Speaker 1: me about three minutes, the Atlantic Monthly, And it's some
41:12
Speaker 1: like fake study published somewhere that sugar when you're sick
41:16
Speaker 1: can actually be good if you have a cold. So
41:19
Speaker 1: clearly a lot of these people are on the payroll
41:23
Speaker 1: of these big corporations and they're churning out very dubious
41:29
Speaker 1: research to prove the things that. They're saying, you know,
41:34
Speaker 1: RFK is going in there and threatening their power base
41:38
Speaker 1: and he's threatening the way things have been done. But
41:40
Speaker 1: it's so funny because in theory, all of these people
41:42
Speaker 1: know it needs to be done. But then when you
41:44
Speaker 1: bring up his name, they're like, no, fuck him. It's like, yeah,
41:47
Speaker 1: but you're agreeing in principle with everything he wants to do. Yeah,
41:51
Speaker 1: but fuck him. But this is a very American thing
41:57
Speaker 1: about winning. And if someone doesn't die and we keep
42:01
Speaker 1: them alive and we can say they've lived a long life,
42:05
Speaker 1: even if it's been hellish, even if it's been terrible,
42:10
Speaker 1: they hope that technologies like AI will soon help usher
42:13
Speaker 1: in an era of interceptive medicine, allowing doctors to identify
42:16
Speaker 1: people at risk of shorter health spans and intervene before
42:19
Speaker 1: chronic disease takes hold. A lot of the chronic diseases
42:23
Speaker 1: in America that we have are the result of the
42:25
Speaker 1: food supply. They are the result of environmental toxins and
42:29
Speaker 1: everything from furniture to the food you eat. And people
42:33
Speaker 1: like RFK are the only ones that I've ever heard
42:36
Speaker 1: talk about that. I'm 40 years old. I will be
42:38
Speaker 1: in a couple of months. And I've never heard anybody
42:43
Speaker 1: with a mainstream platform talk about toxins in food, environmental toxins,
42:49
Speaker 1: things like that, that contribute to chronic diseases. But that
42:53
Speaker 1: is like what America has become. It is kind of
42:57
Speaker 1: a big ward. It's a big hospital where everybody's sick
43:00
Speaker 1: with something physical and or mental. And often those things
43:05
Speaker 1: work hand in hand. So we're just living kind of
43:09
Speaker 1: in a big insane asylum. And we have all of
43:15
Speaker 1: these different ailments. And as long as you're you have
43:19
Speaker 1: enough energy to gamble on the internet, they consider you
43:25
Speaker 1: healthy in America. As long as you have enough energy
43:30
Speaker 1: to gamble money that you made on the internet, you're healthy.
43:36
Speaker 1: Health in America is about consumption. It is about your...
43:40
Speaker 1: They don't care if you can take a bike ride.
43:42
Speaker 1: The fuck do they care? They do not care if
43:45
Speaker 1: you can hike. Can you go to a casino? All
43:49
Speaker 1: of these wheelchairs, jazzies, scooters are designed so that people
43:54
Speaker 1: who cannot walk on their own can still participate in
43:59
Speaker 1: the only cultural monolith this country has left, gambling. Fat
44:06
Speaker 1: people on.
44:08
Speaker 1: Scooters are being put in front of a slot machine
44:15
Speaker 1: and being told to sit there until they explode because
44:18
Speaker 1: it is good for the economy. It is why you
44:22
Speaker 1: have so many the rascal scooter, the jazzy, all of
44:27
Speaker 1: these things, because we cannot lose a customer. When someone
44:31
Speaker 1: dies in America, you're losing a customer. Everything has to
44:37
Speaker 1: be made easy for chronically ill people. Chronically ill people
44:43
Speaker 1: in America must be able to consume, to gamble, to
44:49
Speaker 1: put themselves or their family in debt. If not, there's
44:53
Speaker 1: no point. We're going to talk now about a Christian missionary,
44:58
Speaker 1: a CEO. I'm sorry, not a CEO, a Christian missionary
45:01
Speaker 1: who was imprisoned by the Assad regime and has been freed.
45:09
Speaker 1: We have a Christian missionary who has been freed. A
45:13
Speaker 1: missing U.S. man in Syria where he says he was
45:16
Speaker 1: kept in prison for months after entering the country as
45:19
Speaker 1: a pilgrim. Travis Timmerman spoke to several outlets Thursday after
45:24
Speaker 1: locals saw him walking barefoot in the streets of southern Damascus.
45:27
Speaker 1: Thousands of people have been released from prisons across Syria
45:30
Speaker 1: this week after rebels toppled the country's former president. He
45:35
Speaker 1: traveled to Syria for spiritual purposes. Now we're going to
45:38
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45:41
Speaker 1: by the way. This is his quote. He says he
45:45
Speaker 1: was never beaten. Go back to his quote. He says
45:47
Speaker 1: he was never beaten. And he was, I think, treated
45:52
Speaker 1: and I was never beaten. The only really bad part
45:55
Speaker 1: was that I couldn't go to the bathroom when I
45:57
Speaker 1: wanted to. I was only let out three times a
45:58
Speaker 1: day to go to the bathroom. Interesting. So let's see
46:03
Speaker 1: his interview because he kind of liked it. This guy
46:06
Speaker 1: kind of liked it, which is, by the way, when
46:08
Speaker 1: you're really incredibly religious, I bet being in a Syrian
46:13
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46:16
Speaker 1: you're incredibly religious. When you're really deep in, this is
46:21
Speaker 1: all good. It all happens for a reason. You're like,
46:23
Speaker 1: hey man, I'm in this prison, but it's good. I mean,
46:27
Speaker 1: look at this guy. Look at the eyes on this guy.
46:28
Speaker 1: Not a bad looking guy. Look at the eyes on
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Speaker 1: this guy. Let's watch. How does it feel right now?
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Speaker 5: You were here, you were held in prison, then you
46:36
Speaker 5: were freed and then wandering the streets and now everyone
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Speaker 5: is surrounding you, but they're telling you you're safe.
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Speaker 1: What's going through your mind? I'm okay. I'm playing.
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Speaker 3: My imprisonment was actually good for me. It was a
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Speaker 3: time of solace, of meditation, and I'm stronger for it.
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Speaker 1: That's correct.
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Speaker 5: Did you hear about any other detainees, any other Americans
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Speaker 5: while you were in prison?
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Speaker 3: No, I'm sure there weren't any other Americans there because
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Speaker 3: I was held separately from most all of the other prisoners,
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Speaker 3: and they would have held an American near me, and
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Speaker 3: I would have heard my guard with him.
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Speaker 5: You just came in on your own for this religious pilgrimage.
47:19
Speaker 5: And did you cross the border legally?
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Speaker 1: Did you just sort of find a hole in the
47:26
Speaker 1: fence and come in? How did you get here?
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Speaker 3: The Lebanese-Syrian border are mountains. They're sort of like the
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Speaker 3: mountains of California. They're not massive mountains. And I left Zahle, Lebanon,
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Speaker 3: and I walked six hours to that border.
47:43
Speaker 1: That's right.
47:43
Speaker 3: And I ended up living on that mountain for three
47:46
Speaker 3: days and three nights without food or water.
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Speaker 1: How biblical. You said this was a religious mission.
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Speaker 5: Was this sort of like following in the footsteps of Jesus,
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Speaker 5: the road to Damascus, that kind of thing?
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Speaker 3: Well, I've heard the word of God. I've heard the
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Speaker 3: word of God.
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Speaker 1: Well, he's heard the word of God and he enjoyed
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48:07
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48:11
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48:15
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48:19
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51:33
Speaker 1: The kids weren't there. Let's talk about this Florida teacher.
51:38
Speaker 1: And by the way, bring up his mugshot. He looks fun.
51:41
Speaker 1: Doesn't that look like a fun guy? Well, this gentleman
51:46
Speaker 1: who was a teacher, he's a former teacher at Somerset
51:50
Speaker 1: College Prep. He was naked inside the school. This was
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Speaker 1: naked naked. And he's in the classroom. And I believe
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Speaker 1: the story. Let's see what he is doing.
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Speaker 4: Jim and Liz, not only did Joe Arias allegedly break
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Speaker 4: into Windmill Point Elementary, but when a deputy caught him
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Speaker 4: naked in a classroom, that deputy confronted him. And according
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Speaker 4: to law enforcement, Arias responded by punching the deputy in
52:30
Speaker 4: the face.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Joe Urias had himself quite a Thanksgiving night that eventually
52:35
Speaker 4: landed himself in a jail cell.
52:37
Speaker 1: The more it unfolded, the weirder it got.
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Speaker 4: Deputy Eric Holbert lives at Windmill Point Elementary, one of
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Speaker 4: the several deputies that live on school grounds in the county.
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Speaker 4: Last Thursday night, Holbert spotted Urias, who is now a
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Speaker 4: former teacher at Somerset College Preparatory Academy, naked inside the school.
52:53
Speaker 4: Holbert says when Urias saw him, he tried to grab
52:56
Speaker 4: his clothes and run.
52:57
Speaker 1: Identify myself. I hold both hands up with some deputy
52:59
Speaker 1: sheriff stop and he said no, bro And just try
53:02
Speaker 1: to run through me. We toss it a little bit.
53:04
Speaker 1: He hit me here in the lip I hit him
53:06
Speaker 1: in the jaw and I was able to hold him
53:09
Speaker 1: with a jujitsu.
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Speaker 4: Belief to have broken into the school through a window
53:15
Speaker 4: triggering a silent alarm and police.
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Speaker 1: Response showed that the perimeter was secure and inspected the grounds,
53:21
Speaker 1: didn't find any forced entry or signs of a burglary.
53:24
Speaker 1: By the way, you know what's funny about this? If
53:26
Speaker 1: this was a school shooting, none of them would have
53:27
Speaker 1: went in the school. Like all of these cops are like,
53:30
Speaker 1: they heard an alarm went off and they thought it
53:32
Speaker 1: was like a couple of kids in there. it was
53:34
Speaker 1: a school shooting, all these tough guy cops would have
53:36
Speaker 1: sat outside like they did in Uvalde and did nothing
53:39
Speaker 1: for two hours. They're like, yeah, I hit him with,
53:40
Speaker 1: I got a jujitsu, I put him in a jujitsu
53:43
Speaker 1: hole there, I fucking, you know. So this was a
53:46
Speaker 1: guy that just on Thanksgiving night probably didn't have anywhere
53:49
Speaker 1: to go and he wanted to go into his classroom
53:51
Speaker 1: and get high and get naked in his classroom. And
53:56
Speaker 1: that is, you know, frowned upon. People don't like it.
54:03
Speaker 1: Let's see what else here.
54:04
Speaker 4: Yeah.
54:07
Speaker 1: He broke in. We know that. There's a large pillow
54:10
Speaker 1: that kids sleep on. There was some sort of stain
54:13
Speaker 1: on that. That's not great. He was naked when I
54:16
Speaker 1: saw him, Hobart recalled. But why was he there? He
54:21
Speaker 1: said that he was homeless. And what he has been
54:23
Speaker 1: doing is teaching at his school and then hanging out
54:27
Speaker 1: at a Starbucks and then sleeping in public wherever he can.
54:30
Speaker 1: By the way, how many of our teachers are homeless?
54:32
Speaker 1: Probably a good amount. The deputy shared he knew this
54:35
Speaker 1: week that schools were out, so he was going to
54:37
Speaker 1: break into the school and stay there for the week. Now, teachers, obviously,
54:40
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. They get a decent salary, most of them.
54:42
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be able to afford an apartment or a home.
54:46
Speaker 1: The vulgarity, I don't even want to get into his
54:49
Speaker 1: mind to think about what he was thinking about. The
54:51
Speaker 1: chief said, I have no explanation for what he was doing. Yeah. Well...
54:58
Speaker 1: they fired him. It is creepy. If you, your child
55:02
Speaker 1: was in that class, you're going to sit down with
55:03
Speaker 1: your child and go, can you, what, when, what do
55:07
Speaker 1: you think about Mr. Urias? What was his deal? But
55:11
Speaker 1: it is interesting. I think they found him like, you know,
55:13
Speaker 1: high in the class, naked masturbating. And you don't want
55:17
Speaker 1: a teacher to behave in that manner. You don't want that.
55:20
Speaker 1: If you can avoid it, you really don't want that.
55:22
Speaker 1: You never want to see a teacher out of a classroom.
55:25
Speaker 1: You know, remember how awkward it was when you bumped
55:26
Speaker 1: into a teacher in real life? You're like, oh, hello. Hi, Mrs. Benedetto.
55:30
Speaker 1: But still, you know, you want to see a teacher
55:34
Speaker 1: in a classroom, but you don't want to see them
55:35
Speaker 1: naked after hours, jerking off on a pillow that the
55:37
Speaker 1: kids sit on. So this guy has mental problems, and
55:40
Speaker 1: he's probably not going to be able to get another gig.
55:44
Speaker 1: These things follow you. That's what I've learned. These things
55:47
Speaker 1: follow you in life. They really do. This is what'll
55:50
Speaker 1: follow you. It'll follow you. You know, what happened at
55:53
Speaker 1: the last job? Well, did you relocate? Yeah, I was
55:59
Speaker 1: kind of a punched a deputy, punched me. It was
56:02
Speaker 1: masturbating in the classroom at night on Thanksgiving. You know
56:05
Speaker 1: how it is. And everybody totally freaked about it. This
56:09
Speaker 1: is what they call a career ending. This is a
56:12
Speaker 1: career ending behavior. Something in him snapped. And he just goes,
56:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to jerk off on Thanksgiving in that classroom.
56:20
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I don't give a shit. I want to...
56:25
Speaker 1: What a weird move. Like, if he was a pedophile,
56:27
Speaker 1: what an odd move. Because that's the thought, right? He's
56:31
Speaker 1: jerking off in a classroom. Interesting. I wonder if other pedophiles, like,
56:38
Speaker 1: you didn't even fuck the kid. He's like, no, I
56:40
Speaker 1: just jerked off in the class. And they're like, and
56:41
Speaker 1: you lost your job for that? It sounds reasonable if
56:44
Speaker 1: you're another pedophile. If you're another pedophile, you're like, wait
56:47
Speaker 1: a minute, hold on. You lost your job just for
56:50
Speaker 1: jerking off on Thanksgiving night in your own classroom? And
56:55
Speaker 1: no kids were there. Yeah. That's nuts. Like, if you're
57:00
Speaker 1: another pedophile, it seems like he took the path of
57:03
Speaker 1: least resistance. And everybody's like, why would he lose his
57:09
Speaker 1: job just because he was found naked on Thanksgiving jerking
57:14
Speaker 1: off in his classroom? Why would he lose his job?
57:18
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any goddamn sense. So one of the
57:23
Speaker 1: last episodes of the year here, it's interesting, we have
57:26
Speaker 1: the obvious, the new Trump administration coming in, and obviously
57:29
Speaker 1: we are now at the fake alien invasion stage, and
57:32
Speaker 1: I am so proud of our country. By the way,
57:34
Speaker 1: I'm rarely proud of our country. Let me tell you
57:37
Speaker 1: why I am proud of our country. The government over
57:40
Speaker 1: the last few years has been like a nagging mother
57:45
Speaker 1: that you saw, you found that she was cheating on
57:48
Speaker 1: your father, drunk, you came home early one day, And
57:51
Speaker 1: you saw her having sex with someone drunk and it
57:55
Speaker 1: was bad. Maybe it was anal or something. It was,
57:57
Speaker 1: it was, you could never look at her the same
57:59
Speaker 1: way again. Maybe she was doing anal. Like you open
58:03
Speaker 1: the door and, and, and the plumber was fucking her
58:05
Speaker 1: in the ass and she was drunk and it was
58:08
Speaker 1: like 3 PM or something. And you know, two 30
58:11
Speaker 1: and she didn't know you were coming home early from
58:13
Speaker 1: school and she thought you were staying after for practice,
58:15
Speaker 1: but they had to cancel the practice. So you've seen
58:19
Speaker 1: your mother taking it in the ass in the afternoon
58:23
Speaker 1: with a tradesman, union guy. And you can never look
58:28
Speaker 1: at her the same way again. And you don't really
58:30
Speaker 1: listen to her anymore. And she keeps turning up the
58:33
Speaker 1: heat all the time on listening to her. She's like, well,
58:39
Speaker 1: what if we were in a nuclear war with Russia?
58:41
Speaker 1: Would you listen to me then? It's like, I saw
58:43
Speaker 1: you getting fucked in the ass by the plumbers. Well,
58:46
Speaker 1: what if Syria fell? And you're like, I don't even
58:48
Speaker 1: know where that is. I don't care. All right. If
58:51
Speaker 1: there was an alien invasion, would you listen to me?
58:54
Speaker 1: Would you forget you saw me getting fucked in the
58:56
Speaker 1: ass when you got home? That's where we're at. I
58:59
Speaker 1: don't know what these drones are. Here's what I think
59:01
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not from Iran, by the way. Can
59:04
Speaker 1: we stop? Iran. This is the new game. Everything's Iran. Iran.
59:10
Speaker 1: just launching drones all over the country and our military
59:12
Speaker 1: could do nothing about it.
59:13
Speaker 4: No.
59:14
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's aliens, but I don't
59:16
Speaker 1: think it is because they keep doing shit like this
59:20
Speaker 1: and saying it's alien. But remember the spy balloons and
59:23
Speaker 1: the this and the that and all this aerial? We
59:26
Speaker 1: don't know what it is and why is it here?
59:28
Speaker 1: But here's why I'm kind of proud about our country.
59:34
Speaker 1: You know, there's some news stories about this. There's some
59:36
Speaker 1: chatter on X and, you know, on threads and stuff.
59:39
Speaker 1: But for the most part, people, unless aliens land on Earth...
59:44
Speaker 1: and start rounding everybody up, no one really cares. No
59:48
Speaker 1: one really cares. No one cares. And I think there's
59:52
Speaker 1: something really nice about that. Whatever light show they're putting
59:57
Speaker 1: on up there, for whatever reason, ignore it. Ignore it!
1:00:02
Speaker 1: If aliens are here, you'll know. And this might age
1:00:06
Speaker 1: poorly if they land tomorrow and kill everyone, but I
1:00:08
Speaker 1: don't care. If aliens are gonna land... and destroy all life,
1:00:14
Speaker 1: you'll know. You will not have to debate it. You
1:00:18
Speaker 1: will not have to. This is some type of op.
1:00:23
Speaker 1: Ignore it. Ignore it. Ignore the light show in the sky.
1:00:28
Speaker 1: Ignore this. It is of zero consequence to your life.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: Until a spaceship lands at Chick-fil-A and rounds you up,
1:00:38
Speaker 1: you are to ignore this. And that's why I'm very
1:00:41
Speaker 1: proud of the level of apathy. The only way we're
1:00:45
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get out of anything is apathy.
1:00:48
Speaker 1: If they continue to make you care about things that
1:00:50
Speaker 1: have no effect on your life, it's gonna drive you insane,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna destroy your own life, which is
1:00:57
Speaker 1: what they want. They want you to destroy your own
1:01:00
Speaker 1: life and care about things that have no value to you.
1:01:03
Speaker 1: And the reason they want you to do that is
1:01:05
Speaker 1: because that will make you a very pliable, malleable person
1:01:11
Speaker 1: that they can tell anything to because you're insane. That's
1:01:14
Speaker 1: what happens. When you care about things that you can't
1:01:18
Speaker 1: control and have no impact, you can have no impact on,
1:01:22
Speaker 1: and you take your eye off the ball, and the
1:01:25
Speaker 1: ball is your own life, Then you are a perfect
1:01:28
Speaker 1: sitting duck for whatever bullshit they are going to shovel
1:01:33
Speaker 1: on top of your corpse. This is what they want.
1:01:36
Speaker 1: So here is the CBS morning segment here on the
1:01:40
Speaker 1: mysterious New Jersey drones.
1:01:44
Speaker 2: The growing concern over what are now dozens of unexplained
1:01:48
Speaker 2: mysterious drone sightings in the state of New Jersey. Yesterday,
1:01:51
Speaker 2: the Pentagon weighed in saying there's still no evidence the
1:01:54
Speaker 2: drones are from a foreign threat.
1:01:56
Speaker 1: What is going on? But that is not all that.
1:01:58
Speaker 2: Reassuring and there's a lot we do not know.
1:02:00
Speaker 1: Tom Hanson has more. Across New Jersey, the sense of
1:02:04
Speaker 1: unease is growing.
1:02:06
Speaker 2: It's wild, honestly. Every single day there's more conspiracy theories.
1:02:10
Speaker 6: Olivia DiMatteo is a businesswoman in Morris County who says
1:02:14
Speaker 6: the drone sightings have been happening for weeks. Have you
1:02:18
Speaker 6: seen them yourself?
1:02:19
Speaker 1: I have. They are out every single night in London.
1:02:22
Speaker 1: You can look out your window and see anywhere between
1:02:24
Speaker 1: four to eight of them.
1:02:26
Speaker 6: Some of the devices she claims are the size of
1:02:28
Speaker 6: small cars. The state's governor, Phil Murphy, says there's no
1:02:32
Speaker 6: concern over public safety. One New Jersey congressman, Jeff Van Drew,
1:02:36
Speaker 6: made waves Wednesday when he stated that sources with high-level
1:02:39
Speaker 6: security clearance told him the drones were coming from what
1:02:43
Speaker 6: he called an Iranian mothership offshore.
1:02:46
Speaker 1: Of course. Of course. Wouldn't you if you were Iran? Because,
1:02:51
Speaker 1: you know, America is not going to respond violently. Wouldn't you?
1:02:55
Speaker 1: By the way, Iran is watching all this going, what
1:02:57
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? The idea that Iran is
1:03:02
Speaker 1: launching all of these drones all over America and that,
1:03:05
Speaker 1: do you understand how quickly we'd be in a war
1:03:07
Speaker 1: with Iran, folks? Do you understand how quickly we would
1:03:11
Speaker 1: be in a war with Iran if this was genuinely Iran?
1:03:15
Speaker 1: Do you know how quickly we'd be in a war
1:03:17
Speaker 1: with Iran? Five minutes? Six minutes? Do you know how
1:03:21
Speaker 1: quickly this hilarious, they're like, well, it's no threat to
1:03:24
Speaker 1: public safety. We think it might be Iran. have a
1:03:28
Speaker 1: couple of ships that came in and they're launching drones
1:03:31
Speaker 1: all over the country. There's nothing we can do. I'm betting,
1:03:33
Speaker 1: and I could be wrong. This is a U S government, uh, operation, uh,
1:03:39
Speaker 1: to further they're testing stuff out. They're seeing how it works.
1:03:43
Speaker 1: People go insane. It's all good. It's all positive. Um, Yeah,
1:03:49
Speaker 1: nobody's freaking out about it, which is, I think, good.
1:03:51
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a few people that are freaking out
1:03:53
Speaker 1: on social media, but they freak out about everything. I
1:03:55
Speaker 1: think the apathy of the American public may save us.
1:03:59
Speaker 1: The apathy of the American public may save you. They're
1:04:02
Speaker 1: going to try to get you to care about all
1:04:04
Speaker 1: these things because they want to drive you insane. There's
1:04:08
Speaker 1: no other reason for it. You know, we are now
1:04:13
Speaker 1: watching in real time... every golden calf, so to speak, that,
1:04:23
Speaker 1: whether it's the idea of celebrity, the authority that the
1:04:30
Speaker 1: government once had, or the media, all of these things
1:04:35
Speaker 1: have been falling, and they've been falling because their credibility,
1:04:40
Speaker 1: I mean, recently it just came out that the FBI
1:04:42
Speaker 1: had 26 controversial informants in January 6th, which would have
1:04:46
Speaker 1: been a crazy conspiracy theory a few months ago, and
1:04:49
Speaker 1: now it's a fact. People are looking around them and
1:04:52
Speaker 1: realizing that the level of disinformation that they've been getting
1:04:56
Speaker 1: is unreal and wild. And the only way out is apathy,
1:05:02
Speaker 1: is to ignore. Because if you ignore someone, really, there's
1:05:07
Speaker 1: not much they can do. And whatever Hollywood special effects
1:05:12
Speaker 1: type of light show, James Cameron, avatar three drone strike thing.
1:05:20
Speaker 1: No one in our government seems panicked. Nobody in the
1:05:26
Speaker 1: media seems pat. Nobody's treating it like an alien invasion.
1:05:30
Speaker 1: Everyone's treating it like something that now maybe again, maybe
1:05:35
Speaker 1: who knows? We don't know what any of it is,
1:05:38
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you my instinct is that it is
1:05:41
Speaker 1: an op and My instinct is that we know exactly
1:05:46
Speaker 1: what these things are and we know why they're there.
1:05:49
Speaker 1: I don't think we're letting things in our airspace. We
1:05:53
Speaker 1: have no idea what they are. I think we have
1:05:56
Speaker 1: an idea of what they are. I would be shocked
1:05:58
Speaker 1: if the Pentagon, NASA, and all of these people had
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Speaker 1: no idea what any of this stuff was. And I
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Speaker 1: was just flying around America. Well, it might be Iran.
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Speaker 1: We think Iran sending drones to the airports. You know,
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Speaker 1: there are spy balloons. There are nefarious actors all over
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Speaker 1: the globe. And I'm sure that, you know, those things
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Speaker 1: are real. And they try to do all those things.
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Speaker 1: But this idea that there's a large-scale drone attack from Iran.
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Speaker 1: If it is Iran, it's not Iran. In my estimation,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like something else. Right. And I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's aliens. I don't think it's aliens. I think it's us.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think. And I could be wrong. It
1:06:45
Speaker 1: might age poorly. I don't know. I don't know. Let's
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Speaker 1: see the rest of this representative here from Jersey.
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Speaker 6: So I'm hearing concerns, but do you have any concrete
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Speaker 6: evidence that these drones are in fact coming from Iran?
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Speaker 6: The evidence that I have comes from individuals who have
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Speaker 6: expressed their concern in me, who are highly placed. The
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Speaker 6: Pentagon has directly pushed back on those claims.
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Speaker 5: There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the
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Speaker 5: United States, and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards
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Speaker 5: the United States.
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Speaker 6: And while law enforcement works to track down the source
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Speaker 6: of the drones, there have been reports of sightings in
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Speaker 6: the Philadelphia and New York City areas. For CBS Mornings,
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Speaker 6: I'm Tom Hanson in Mendham, New Jersey.
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Speaker 1: That's some scary stuff. I don't know. Is it? Is it?
1:07:42
Speaker 1: Is it some scary stuff? Is that what it is?
1:07:47
Speaker 1: They're all on cue. That's some scary stuff. Be scared
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Speaker 1: out there. We like you scared. That's some scary stuff.
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Speaker 1: There's mysteries of the drones. I'm undeterred. I'm unafraid. If
1:08:05
Speaker 1: the aliens land, they land. Enough. Are we going to
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Speaker 1: talk about it for three weeks? Like a loser? Enough already.
1:08:12
Speaker 1: Maybe the aliens are landing and they're going to take
1:08:14
Speaker 1: over Syria. Maybe they want Syria. Maybe that's why they came.
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Speaker 1: In straightening out. The aliens, three years later, we'll be like, well,
1:08:25
Speaker 1: those aliens that took over Syria, that didn't really work out,
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Speaker 1: did it? They had Locke and P. Blob, they got
1:08:29
Speaker 1: the rape rooms back. They never got rid of that jail.
1:08:32
Speaker 1: They're still keeping that jail, by the way. You know
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Speaker 1: what's funny about all of these Mideast things that happen
1:08:37
Speaker 1: when somebody gets toppled? And they go, we're letting the
1:08:40
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse open. They're opening the butcher block. And all these
1:08:44
Speaker 1: people walk out of the jail. And then they go,
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Speaker 1: so are you going to destroy the jail? And they're like, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's history. You can't destroy history. We got
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Speaker 1: to keep history. Good night, everyone.