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September 21, 2026 | The Jon Justice Show · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

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SPEAKER_01: Today is today.
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SPEAKER_01: And yesterday was today yesterday.
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SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow will be today, tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_01: So live today.
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SPEAKER_01: So the future today will be as the past today as it is tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_54: Third rate, off brand, bright part in Minnesotan MAGA media.
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SPEAKER_06: The best part of Wake is now is the my earholes.
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SPEAKER_38: Doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it?
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SPEAKER_38: The best part of Wake is the best of Wake Mala.
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SPEAKER_25: Let us be glad and rejoice in it, and let's do something good.
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SPEAKER_25: Let's make a difference.
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SPEAKER_25: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_40: Oh, hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_38: Today is is today.
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SPEAKER_38: It's the John Justice Show presented by American Experiment.
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SPEAKER_38: I am your host, John Justice, and thank you so much for joining us at this uh early hour.
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SPEAKER_38: To my right, pushing the buttons and producing today is uh Devin.
1:39
SPEAKER_38: Good morning to Devin.
1:41
SPEAKER_38: That was a messy game yesterday.
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SPEAKER_38: Do we take anything away from that apart from just saying we gotta win and let's move on?
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SPEAKER_39: And we're we're we're we're we're two up with no losses.
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SPEAKER_39: If anything, we get reassurance that our defense is for real.
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SPEAKER_38: Okay.
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SPEAKER_39: Is that is that the takeaway on it?
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SPEAKER_39: Yes, but we'll stay optimistic on this mind.
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SPEAKER_38: We'll stay positive on uh on that front.
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SPEAKER_38: Yeah, that was uh I'll blame it on the rain.
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SPEAKER_38: Do a little Milly Vanilli.
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SPEAKER_38: Blame it on the rain.
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SPEAKER_38: On the uh show today, a lot of ground to cover.
2:11
SPEAKER_38: Uh Converse shoes embroiled in controversy.
2:16
SPEAKER_38: I have an interesting backstory uh on on this.
2:19
SPEAKER_38: You probably haven't seen this yet.
2:20
SPEAKER_38: Uh I didn't even realize.
2:22
SPEAKER_38: I saw the ad, there's an ad that's out there right now from Converse, and people are saying that it's horrible, atrocious imagery.
2:30
SPEAKER_38: I saw the ad over the weekend.
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SPEAKER_38: I saw it on social media.
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SPEAKER_38: I didn't bother to read any of the captions.
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SPEAKER_38: I just I was like, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_38: I had no interest in it.
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SPEAKER_38: Like the ad itself was just boring to me.
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SPEAKER_38: And then I'm doing prep this morning and come to find out, oh, this is actually controversial.
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SPEAKER_38: This is why I saw it on my feed over the weekend.
2:48
SPEAKER_38: I guess I should have paid attention.
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SPEAKER_38: So we'll dive into that uh coming up in the first hour of the show.
2:52
SPEAKER_38: Uh, a lot of uh concern overseas in the Middle East.
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SPEAKER_38: Uh, Saudis, Houthis, Yemen, Iran, Russia, largest drone attack from Ukraine ever.
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SPEAKER_38: So we'll dive into all of that this hour as well.
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SPEAKER_38: We have moves regarding Denmark.
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SPEAKER_38: We'll talk about that.
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SPEAKER_38: Uh Flanagan has a fraudster friend.
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SPEAKER_38: Well, at least a friend who's being investigated for fraud.
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SPEAKER_38: So we'll get into that next hour.
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SPEAKER_38: A lot of fraud talk.
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SPEAKER_38: I heard a little fraud preview there with the lead-in uh song.
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SPEAKER_38: Also, uh, the investigation and the results are in regarding St.
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SPEAKER_38: Paul Mayor, uh cooley her, uh horny her.
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SPEAKER_38: So she acted inappropriately, but it didn't rise to the level of any misconduct.
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SPEAKER_38: That's basically the takeaway.
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SPEAKER_38: The media's response to it is as hysterical as it is expected and typical.
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SPEAKER_38: So those are just a few items along with a controversial um ICE incident that uh took place in uh other states over the weekend.
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SPEAKER_38: A lot of ground to cover.
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SPEAKER_38: We'll talk with Andrew Langer, the president of the Institute for Liberty, coming up just after 6:30 this morning.
4:02
SPEAKER_38: President Donald Trump banning certain media outlets, uh, Politico, MS Now, and I think CNN from going into the White House in the Oval Office.
4:14
SPEAKER_38: I'll tell you up front, I don't care that he's doing this.
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SPEAKER_38: I know that there are some conservatives uh out there that are frustrated by this move.
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SPEAKER_38: I am not.
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SPEAKER_38: I think he has the right to do it.
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SPEAKER_38: I think it's justified, and there's good reason for him to do so.
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SPEAKER_38: So uh all that is coming up on the show this morning.
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SPEAKER_38: If you want to take part, we encourage you to leave us a blast, as you heard as we started the show this morning.
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SPEAKER_38: The blaster line is 651-964-0294.
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SPEAKER_38: 651-964-0294.
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SPEAKER_38: And you can drop me an email, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
4:49
SPEAKER_38: Uh, thanks to everybody who came out to the fall briefing with guest speaker Byron York at the Sovereign Estates in Waconia on uh Saturday.
4:59
SPEAKER_38: Had the strangest thing.
5:00
SPEAKER_38: I got into this conversation with Melinda yesterday.
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SPEAKER_38: We were, oh, she had asked me, she asked me about artificial intelligence, and she was, I'm not sure what brought brought it about, but I was in the middle of prepping the show.
5:13
SPEAKER_38: I was watching the Vikings game, and she wanted my sort of assessment of where we're going on artificial intelligence.
5:18
SPEAKER_38: And so we got into this this discussion, and she had put forward a thought that she believes the younger generation.
5:30
SPEAKER_38: So we're looking at Gen Z, right?
5:32
SPEAKER_38: Are you Gen Z?
5:32
SPEAKER_38: Are you Gen Z?
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SPEAKER_38: Is that what you is that what you are?
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SPEAKER_38: I don't actually know what I am.
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SPEAKER_38: I think you are Gen Z.
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SPEAKER_38: I think Gen Z is the most recent one.
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SPEAKER_38: I think I think I can't keep track.
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SPEAKER_38: Individuals in their early 20s, let's go that route.
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SPEAKER_38: Okay.
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SPEAKER_38: She believes that there is going to be a rejection of uh artificial intelligence and a move towards that which is more real and tangible.
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SPEAKER_38: Okay.
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SPEAKER_38: Um, you know, I think that artificial intelligence and what we're dealing with right now with AI, and we'll talk with David about this coming up and on um on Wednesdays.
6:05
SPEAKER_38: He'll be on Wednesday this week again, not Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_38: He has some scheduling conflicts.
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SPEAKER_38: So he'll be on with us on Wednesday.
6:10
SPEAKER_38: But I think what's happening with artificial intelligence right now is that it is uh giving it's rising much in the same way the internet has.
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SPEAKER_38: It's going to completely change society, just like the internet did, and then subsequently, just like social media ended up doing.
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SPEAKER_38: Now, whether or not we adjust positive or negatively remains to be seen.
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SPEAKER_38: There are good things about social media in the internet, and there's a lot of bad things about social media and the internet.
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SPEAKER_38: And I believe the same thing's gonna happen with artificial intelligence.
6:38
SPEAKER_38: Anyways, I bring all this up just because I want to tell you a little anecdote.
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SPEAKER_38: Because as I was leaving, um, that's a little early on Saturday from the from the fall briefing event.
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SPEAKER_38: And I go out to Monty and I'm getting ready to get in the car, and uh I'm parked in it with a dirt parking lot.
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SPEAKER_38: Beautiful, beautiful estates, by the way, just absolutely gorgeous.
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SPEAKER_38: There are these three geese in front of me.
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SPEAKER_38: Okay.
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SPEAKER_38: I'll put the pictures up online when I get a when I get a chance.
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SPEAKER_38: There's these three geese, and they're just in this, in this, uh, this grassy knoll that was in front of where the cars were parked, and it was all dirt and gravel where the cars were parked at.
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SPEAKER_38: And uh one of them was just was just squawking like crazy.
7:18
SPEAKER_38: It was so funny.
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SPEAKER_38: Like it was trying to get my attention.
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SPEAKER_38: Like, rah, I'm like, what is going on with you, bird?
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SPEAKER_38: Anyway.
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SPEAKER_38: So I was so drawn to them, I snapped a picture to send to Melinda because I was letting her know that I was on my way home.
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SPEAKER_38: And uh I I closed the door to Monty.
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SPEAKER_38: I'm about ready to start the car, and I hear this on my door.
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SPEAKER_38: I'm like, what in the heck?
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SPEAKER_38: And I look over, and that goose is right outside my car door.
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SPEAKER_38: He's like, yo, dude, I don't know if you wanted food.
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SPEAKER_38: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_38: I I I have no idea what I just was like, that was the that was the that was the boldest bird.
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SPEAKER_38: Well, I wouldn't no, not well, not the at least that I've seen.
8:04
SPEAKER_38: I know my my my my dad would go on walks when he was when he was working for this place, and there was uh there was a bird that would attack him on his walks.
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SPEAKER_38: It would like wait in the wings.
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SPEAKER_38: It was just crazy, it was just crazy.
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SPEAKER_38: I and the reason I'm bringing it up with AI because I used this anecdote because I I in that moment I was like, man, nature's cool.
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SPEAKER_38: Nature, nature's pretty nature's pretty awesome.
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SPEAKER_38: Nature provided me this genuine, real, and authentic moment.
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SPEAKER_38: And I shared that with Melinda, and now I share that with you.
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SPEAKER_38: Yeah, well, it's my show.
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SPEAKER_38: I'm allowed.
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SPEAKER_38: All right, let's go here.
8:47
SPEAKER_38: That's some sad news to start off with.
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SPEAKER_38: Um, first off, uh, Devin Carrot Top, the comedian.
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SPEAKER_38: Any familiarity at all?
8:55
SPEAKER_38: Zero.
8:56
SPEAKER_38: Okay.
8:58
SPEAKER_38: Boy, I'm telling you, there's a bizarre pop culture gap.
9:02
SPEAKER_38: It's very, very strange.
9:04
SPEAKER_38: I think it's because a lot of these figures, like your Lenny Kravitz, we talked about that on Freedom Friday.
9:10
SPEAKER_38: Half the group had no idea who Lenny Kravitz was on Friday's uh show.
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SPEAKER_38: Uh, I think it's because they unless they've unless they've gone viral in some way on social media, you know, there's no coverage of these individuals.
9:24
SPEAKER_38: You know, how would you find out about Carrot Top?
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SPEAKER_38: So he's a he's a comedian, he's got bright red hair.
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SPEAKER_38: Okay.
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SPEAKER_38: He's kind of like a real life clown, but he's not a clown.
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SPEAKER_38: He's just a comedian.
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SPEAKER_38: He's called Carrot Top.
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SPEAKER_38: Been around for decades.
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SPEAKER_38: Um, his real name is Scott Thompson.
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SPEAKER_38: He was hospitalized in Las Vegas after an attempted suicide.
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SPEAKER_38: Very, very sad.
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SPEAKER_38: Rushed to a local hospital, a hospital, according to reports.
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SPEAKER_38: Uh, after the incident, he has a in uh in the Las Vegas area.
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SPEAKER_38: I believe he has a standing gig in um in Las Vegas.
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SPEAKER_38: I think that's part of the deal.
9:59
SPEAKER_38: Yes, he did.
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SPEAKER_38: A Friday night performance at the Luxor.
10:01
SPEAKER_38: So he does have a standing gig at the Luxor, um, where he has a long-running residency.
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SPEAKER_38: That's the word I was looking for, was of course canceled as a result.
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SPEAKER_38: Thompson's representative said the seasoned Vegas performer is recovering in the hospital and receiving care.
10:15
SPEAKER_38: Mr.
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SPEAKER_38: Thompson is recovering and getting the support that he needs.
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SPEAKER_38: His family and those closest to him are deeply grateful for the concern, prayers, and respectfully asked for privacy.
10:25
SPEAKER_38: 61 years old, Carrot Top is known for his signature red hair, as I mentioned, heavy prop comedy and high-energy stage shows.
10:34
SPEAKER_38: And I don't know what there's a correlation, but leading up to this, so when would when was this?
10:40
SPEAKER_38: Okay, so this must have been what had happened.
10:43
SPEAKER_38: I didn't see the initial reports on Friday.
10:46
SPEAKER_38: I did see clips going around of Carrot Top over the weekend, and I just thought that he had done a recent interview.
10:54
SPEAKER_38: But in those clips, he had made mention of how lonely he was, even though he was a celebrity.
11:04
SPEAKER_38: He was talking with whoever the podcast was, and he was just talking about, you know, how he does his residency in Las Vegas, and yet he's an incredibly lonely in individual.
11:14
SPEAKER_38: And I believe he's dealt with these types of issues for a long time.
11:17
SPEAKER_38: So um certainly uh prayers go out to uh to Caratop.
11:20
SPEAKER_38: I've never been the biggest fan, but you know, I found some of his stuff entertaining.
11:24
SPEAKER_38: I don't know if I would go to a show in Vegas if I were there, but I've certainly watched a handful of his of his performances in comedy in the past.
11:35
SPEAKER_38: 651, uh 964-0294.
11:38
SPEAKER_38: As we continue to run through uh some of the headlines from over the weekend.
11:41
SPEAKER_38: That lone holdout, and I have some audio.
11:44
SPEAKER_38: Patrick Henry, um, who is Lindsay Clancy's husband, I think that's his name, right?
11:50
SPEAKER_38: Patrick Henry.
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SPEAKER_38: Um ended up doing an interview with uh 60 Minutes.
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SPEAKER_38: Patrick Clancy, excuse me, my bad.
11:57
SPEAKER_38: Of course, Clancy, the I don't know why I had Henry in my head.
12:01
SPEAKER_38: I was thinking her maiden name.
12:02
SPEAKER_38: Anyway, uh Patrick Clancy.
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SPEAKER_38: Um spoke to 60 Minutes over the weekend.
12:09
SPEAKER_38: We do have some audio to share later on in the show.
12:12
SPEAKER_38: Accusations saying the accusations about him are deeply harmful to the legacy of his uh of his children.
12:19
SPEAKER_38: Um, that lone holdout juror that we've talked about, though, who forced the mistrial in the triple murder case, he's lawyered up now with an attorney.
12:29
SPEAKER_38: And that attorney has an interesting mega connection because it's the same attorney who represented President Donald Trump as this holdout responds to the scorching attacks from the media and his fellow jurors.
12:40
SPEAKER_38: He has been identified now.
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SPEAKER_38: Michael P.
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SPEAKER_38: Uh Desronville, 48 years old, retained attorney Edward uh Paulzik, who represented Trump in several high-profile lawsuits.
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SPEAKER_38: Um let's see.
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SPEAKER_38: I can now confirm that I am the lawyer said, I can now confirm that I'm representing the courageous and heroic lone holdout juror from the Lindsey Clancy trial.
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SPEAKER_38: He's an American hero and champion of justice.
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SPEAKER_38: Please pray for him and help us protect him.
13:13
SPEAKER_38: Um he added that he uh that Des uh Desrunville is safe and sound at an undisclosed location in rural North New England.
13:21
SPEAKER_38: Why would you say where he is at all?
13:24
SPEAKER_38: Jesus Louise, vowing legal retaliation for what he called the evil people who have attacked this American hero.
13:32
SPEAKER_38: I will say this.
13:33
SPEAKER_38: I don't expect much more controversy to come from this juror.
13:39
SPEAKER_38: The news cycle now is no longer 24 hours, it's like two hours.
13:45
SPEAKER_38: And as somebody who's online every single day, I can tell you firsthand that this is not being talked about all that much.
13:53
SPEAKER_38: And what is being talked about regarding the Lindsey Clancy story, at least overnight, the videos that I've seen online are individuals who've now gone and watched the Patrick Clancy interview on 60 Minutes and are changing their tune over their what was their defense of Lindsay Clancy.
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SPEAKER_38: But I think that this lone holdout juror probably waited long enough before his identity was revealed so that he can avoid any further scrutiny or even danger, as we talked about in the midst of the um of the mistrial itself.
14:30
SPEAKER_38: So, and like I said, I will play that uh I'll play that audio uh coming up from uh Patrick Clancy uh next hour.
14:37
SPEAKER_38: We have a story that I want to attach it to um uh regarding uh Minnesota women suing Planned Parenthood, alleging they underwent coerced abortions.
14:49
SPEAKER_38: It's a really fascinating comparison to the arguments that were in favor of Lindsay Clancy in the wake of the mistrial.
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SPEAKER_38: So that'll be coming up uh next hour here on the show.
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SPEAKER_38: Email John.justice at AmericanExperimented.org.
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SPEAKER_38: For any additional stories that you might have missed from over the weekend and the end of last week, here is an update from a friend of the show, Alpha News, here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
15:17
SPEAKER_48: Here's some of the top stories this week at Alpha News.
15:20
SPEAKER_48: Taxpayers spent more than a half million dollars on security for Mary Moriarty while she criticizes fear mongering on crime.
15:27
SPEAKER_48: Alpha News requested records two years ago about her security costs after the Henne County attorney spent years pushing back on the idea that Minneapolis is a dangerous place.
15:37
SPEAKER_48: Now, records obtained by Alpha News show the county paid a private security company$513,000 since November 2023 to protect Moriarty.
15:48
SPEAKER_48: A new polls out this week are giving a boost to Republican candidates, according to the coefficient poll, Amy Klobishar and Lisa Damath, are locked in a tight race for governor, while Peggy Flanagan and Michelle Tefoya are nearly tied in the Senate race.
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SPEAKER_48: And in another, Republicans appear to have a good chance of winning their first statewide political race in 20 years.
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SPEAKER_48: In the race for state auditor, Republican Scott Jensen had a seven-point lead, and in the race for attorney general, Ron Schutz leads over Attorney General Keith Ellison in this KSTP survey USA poll.
16:23
SPEAKER_48: Four years ago, Ellison won re-election to a second term by less than one point.
16:29
SPEAKER_48: And on the podcast, a former therapist slams what he calls fraudulent Minnesota autism centers, including one run by a friend of Peggy Flanagan.
16:39
SPEAKER_48: Grant Morgan said he worked with people completely unqualified to do the work.
16:44
SPEAKER_48: The state has confirmed it has opened an investigation.
16:47
SPEAKER_48: You can check out that interview on our YouTube channel.
16:50
SPEAKER_48: And be sure to stay informed with the latest news and independent journalism at alphanews.org.
16:58
SPEAKER_09: For all you people out there that are lonely, and especially you celebrities that are lonely.
17:03
SPEAKER_09: Volunteer at a nonprofit.
17:07
SPEAKER_09: Go out and do something.
17:08
SPEAKER_09: Get involved in your local church.
17:10
SPEAKER_09: Help with a children's ministry or even a youth ministry.
17:15
SPEAKER_09: My God, you'll make great friends.
17:17
SPEAKER_09: Your life will be so full, you won't hardly have time to rest.
17:21
SPEAKER_09: That's my suggestion.
17:24
SPEAKER_38: And it's a worthy suggestion.
17:25
SPEAKER_38: And thank you so much for the comment.
17:27
SPEAKER_38: Uh to the blaster line again, 651-964-0294.
17:34
SPEAKER_38: Speaking of which, let's go here.
17:35
SPEAKER_28: Good morning, John.
17:36
SPEAKER_28: Well, unfortunately, we're seeing whether it's a social media or just the ridiculousness we're seeing in our society, this instant gratification.
17:44
SPEAKER_28: The dopamine that we have to have.
17:46
SPEAKER_28: And it really changes us as a society.
17:49
SPEAKER_28: Because whether it's the fancy or whatever it might be, we have to go out right away and start protesting, showing us we're the best.
18:00
SPEAKER_28: We're the first ones to get the information out there.
18:02
SPEAKER_28: We're the first ones to stand in line.
18:05
SPEAKER_28: And then once all the evidence comes out and we find out that they're all wrong.
18:09
SPEAKER_28: It's really too late to put the genie back in the bottle.
18:12
SPEAKER_28: And that's kind of what our society has become.
18:14
SPEAKER_28: Have a great week, everybody.
18:17
SPEAKER_38: Had a uh comment that uh rolled in.
18:19
SPEAKER_38: Alpha News missed a big uh big local news.
18:22
SPEAKER_38: Bob and uh Bob and Rob's Burger Review was back.
18:25
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, I saw that over the weekend.
18:26
SPEAKER_38: I posted about that.
18:28
SPEAKER_38: I was very, I was very excited for the return of uh Bob and uh and Rob's uh burger review.
18:34
SPEAKER_38: All right, Converse, a Nike subsidiary, apologized and removed a shoe ad featuring K pop singer Karina after backlash for allegedly resembling Ku Klux Klan imagery.
18:50
SPEAKER_38: It does not do that.
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SPEAKER_38: This is one of the we're getting so I guess to the previous talkbackers point.
19:00
SPEAKER_38: It's just or a blaster, I should say.
19:04
SPEAKER_38: Gotta put a dollar in the jar, gosh darn it.
19:08
SPEAKER_38: No, to his previous point.
19:10
SPEAKER_38: The outrage machine is stupid.
19:12
SPEAKER_38: People are dumb.
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SPEAKER_38: The ad, which depicted Karina holding black high top shoes from under a spotlight, was deemed racist and offensive by critics, including Representative Troy Carter, while Converse apologized and removed the ad.
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SPEAKER_38: Carter's office called for further action, including an investigation and safeguards to prevent similar uh incidents.
19:37
SPEAKER_38: So this is the height of ridiculousness.
19:40
SPEAKER_38: So the ad itself is basically it's a kind of a it's kind of um the motif is black and white because the shoes are.
19:47
SPEAKER_38: So this K-pop singer is also dressed in black and white.
19:51
SPEAKER_38: She's got like a black top on, and she's wearing a white dress.
19:56
SPEAKER_38: And so in the shot, there's uh there's a subsequent there's a subsequent photo of the Converse star.
20:04
SPEAKER_38: And it's basically casting a it's like a bright light showing the star on the ground and casting a shadow.
20:10
SPEAKER_38: So the image that sparked controversy is essentially this K-pop singer from the waist up.
20:17
SPEAKER_38: So you can't see her torso up, you can just see her white dress and then her and then her feet.
20:24
SPEAKER_38: And she's standing on the the the lighted projection of the star, but she's holding the converse shoes in her left hand.
20:32
SPEAKER_38: So she's got like her two fingers in both the shoes, so they're side by side.
20:36
SPEAKER_38: So the image shows what looks like you can see her dress and then just see her shoes off to the left.
20:41
SPEAKER_38: If you glance at it, it looks like it's a suspended body from the shoes.
20:48
SPEAKER_38: If you just do a passing glance, as if somebody is hanging there, but she's not, she's holding the shoes.
20:54
SPEAKER_38: So the idea here is that apparently it's depicting the KKK because her dress is white and one could maybe think that a person was hanging there.
21:08
SPEAKER_38: I mean, of stupid controversies, this has gotta be right up there.
21:13
SPEAKER_38: I'm I I'm I'm actually surprised that Converse pulled the ad based off of this.
21:20
SPEAKER_38: I mean, I know that it's not abnormal for a corporation to want to avoid controversy, but in this case, this one is so incredibly stupid, misguided, and completely ginned up just to give individuals ammunition to perpetuate this white systemic racism argument that I am legitimately surprised that Converse pulled the ad.
21:46
SPEAKER_38: So let me read to you some of the details here because they probably do a better job in this Fox News story uh describing what had happened.
21:52
SPEAKER_38: So Converse did apologize, pulled the shoe ad.
21:55
SPEAKER_38: The ad, which has been removed by the subsidiary to Nike social media page.
22:00
SPEAKER_38: Again, featured this K-pop singer.
22:02
SPEAKER_38: The girl from the girl group Aspa, A-E-S-P-A, I'm familiar with it.
22:09
SPEAKER_38: She's promoting the Chuck 70 uh run star crush sneakers.
22:14
SPEAKER_38: In the ad, she held the pair of black high top shoes under a star-shaped spotlight while wearing a long white skirt.
22:21
SPEAKER_38: Okay, so that's pretty much what I described.
22:23
SPEAKER_38: I feel better about myself now.
22:27
SPEAKER_38: Several social media users asserted that Karina resembled a KKK member.
22:36
SPEAKER_38: Can I just point out this is a this is a Korean singer?
22:40
SPEAKER_38: This is a young, attractive Korean girl.
22:46
SPEAKER_38: Woman.
22:49
SPEAKER_38: With the shoes resembling a lynching victim.
22:53
SPEAKER_38: Critics included Representative Troy Carter, a Democrat out of Louisiana, who released this statement on the ad Friday.
22:59
SPEAKER_38: Nike in Converse, what the hell were you thinking?
23:02
SPEAKER_38: Uh they were trying to show to uh sell shoes, you moron?
23:06
SPEAKER_38: I think that's pretty much what they were uh uh thinking.
23:10
SPEAKER_38: Your campaign shows what looks like a hooded clansman framed by what appears to be dangling feet of a lynching victim.
23:18
SPEAKER_38: There is nothing creative or artistic about it.
23:19
SPEAKER_38: It's racist, reckless, and deeply offensive.
23:29
SPEAKER_38: After the uh facing the backlash Converse eventually pulled the ad and released a statement apologizing for the campaign.
23:36
SPEAKER_38: They said, We're sorry.
23:38
SPEAKER_38: Stupid move.
23:40
SPEAKER_38: We understand why this image is deeply unsettling and recognize that we got it wrong.
23:44
SPEAKER_38: We removed it from our channels and are working to remove it everywhere it appeared.
23:48
SPEAKER_38: This should not have happened.
23:49
SPEAKER_38: We will do better.
23:50
SPEAKER_38: You know, we must be doing really damn good as a society if these ads for conger for converse shoes featuring K-pop singers and then clown costumes being sold at Target are the only controversies that the wack-a-doodle leftists can point to as they try to rally more people to their cause.
24:14
SPEAKER_38: If this is all they're left with, then we must be doing pretty pretty darn good.
24:22
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24:25
SPEAKER_38: John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
24:28
SPEAKER_38: All right, we'll talk with Andrew Langer coming up in just a moment.
24:31
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24:31
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24:34
SPEAKER_38: I have some audio to share, and we'll get you updated.
24:36
SPEAKER_38: I grabbed a couple of clips from uh some social media commentators uh to help uh fill in the backstory of what's taking place in the Middle East uh right now.
24:45
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26:45
SPEAKER_33: Hey John, Jerry Rosemal again.
26:47
SPEAKER_33: You know, this Converse thing, my God, what is wrong with these people?
26:54
SPEAKER_33: Everywhere they look, they see racism, sexism, homophobia.
27:01
SPEAKER_33: Funny they don't see abortion as murder.
27:04
SPEAKER_38: That is all.
27:06
SPEAKER_38: No, it's all it's all agenda, it's all agenda-driven.
27:10
SPEAKER_38: And then you have individuals who go and jump on board with it and perpetuate the agenda.
27:19
SPEAKER_38: Just mindless, mindless minions looking to capture attention on their social media platforms.
27:29
SPEAKER_38: So if it's, you know, if it's worthy to help push the leftist agenda, it's going to go and get attention.
27:37
SPEAKER_38: They're so they're so desperate to find examples of systemic racism that this is the controversy that you end up with.
27:45
SPEAKER_38: Ridiculousness.
27:48
SPEAKER_38: There's an interesting correlation here, too, by the way, because you see something similar happening when it comes to AI.
27:54
SPEAKER_38: And this can you can roll this into the AI conversation I was having just a moment ago as I kicked off of the show.
27:59
SPEAKER_38: Um, but when it comes to artificial intelligence, I mentioned this last week.
28:04
SPEAKER_38: I was listening to, I believe it was Friday or Thursday's Tim Poole um IRL podcast, and they were talking about AI.
28:11
SPEAKER_38: And as a matter of fact, I've had some amazing audio to share.
28:15
SPEAKER_38: Hopefully at the end of today's show from an expert talking about what actually happened in the hugging face uh incident.
28:22
SPEAKER_38: It's terrifying what AI was able to do in breaking out of the containment of its programmers.
28:28
SPEAKER_38: I mean, it's straight out of Tron, but with nefarious intent.
28:33
SPEAKER_38: But Tim Poole was saying that what he he believes that what you see on social media platforms like Instagram, it's probably only 15% real.
28:42
SPEAKER_38: And you can tell when you see the posts and the carousel of images or videos.
28:48
SPEAKER_38: You know, for the most part, you can still tell what is AI and what isn't AI.
28:52
SPEAKER_38: But then what happens is some of these things end up sparking trends that get perpetuated by humans.
28:59
SPEAKER_38: And it's very similar to what happens with this outrage over these ridiculous controversies that aren't controversial at all.
29:06
SPEAKER_38: There is nothing controversial about this Converse ad.
29:08
SPEAKER_38: As a matter of fact, I thought it was boring.
29:10
SPEAKER_38: When I saw it, I thought it was an actual ad for a con for a Converse, and I just blew right past it.
29:15
SPEAKER_38: Because I thought the imagery was bland.
29:17
SPEAKER_38: It didn't really grab my attention.
29:19
SPEAKER_38: I have no idea who the singer is.
29:20
SPEAKER_38: I'm obviously not in the demographic of who Converse is trying to sell their shoes to.
29:26
SPEAKER_38: Be that as it may, it was so benign that I just was like, whatever.
29:30
SPEAKER_38: Not even realizing that it was attached to a controversy, that only, you know, yesterday would I go and find out when I was uh prepping for the uh prepping for the show.
29:38
SPEAKER_38: Got a couple of texts that rolled into the blaster line regarding Converse.
29:42
SPEAKER_38: Uh, those reactions are surprising to us because we don't wear racist-colored glasses.
29:49
SPEAKER_38: Their cult relies on, you know, taking every issue and event and looking at it through the lens of racism.
29:58
SPEAKER_38: Another comment here.
29:59
SPEAKER_38: Good morning, John.
30:00
SPEAKER_38: Good morning.
30:01
SPEAKER_38: Regardless of the, oh excuse me, regarding the Converse ad controversy, how stupid are these people to think in today's age a company would put out an ad hinting to the KKK?
30:12
SPEAKER_38: For Pete's sake, can you imagine um what these same dummies see in the clouds?
30:19
SPEAKER_38: That's good.
30:20
unknown: I like that.
30:23
SPEAKER_38: Oh, all right.
30:25
SPEAKER_38: Again, 651-964-0294.
30:29
SPEAKER_38: Uh Rich from Hanover writes in, I wonder to what extent these companies feign controversy in order to pump up their brand.
30:37
SPEAKER_38: Uh, you know, I don't know.
30:39
SPEAKER_38: This certainly wasn't an attempt to do that.
30:41
SPEAKER_38: This was not a this was not an ad designed to mimic a lynching or the KKK.
30:46
SPEAKER_38: There's there it just wasn't.
30:49
SPEAKER_38: Somebody just happened to, again, as the previous tech said, they're looking at it through a racial lens.
30:55
SPEAKER_38: And because of that, they end up bringing about this controversy saying, oh, I don't know, this looks like this looks like Nazi, Nazi imagery.
31:06
SPEAKER_38: We must go and decry it.
31:09
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31:14
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31:18
SPEAKER_38: You can email John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
31:22
SPEAKER_38: This is the moment of the show where I grab my cup of coffee, I sit back, and I let Andrew Langer take over.
31:27
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31:34
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31:36
SPEAKER_53: Um I'm in for tone today.
31:37
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31:44
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31:46
SPEAKER_53: Uh I went to services last night, but I'm I am not going to temple today.
31:51
SPEAKER_38: Well, I appreciate you joining uh the show this morning.
31:54
SPEAKER_38: And have you uh have you picked your your A topics yet?
31:57
SPEAKER_38: We were just discussing the uh ridiculous controversy surrounding the Converse K-pop singer ad.
32:03
SPEAKER_38: I don't know if you've if you've seen this yet or not, Andrew Langer.
32:07
SPEAKER_53: Yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_53: It's funny you say that because I I saw that this morning and I'm you know, I mean, you talk about tempests in a teapot or or or tempests in a in a uh shoe, whatever.
32:19
SPEAKER_53: You know, do they have a is there a word remember that show in the 80s uh Sniglets?
32:23
SPEAKER_53: You know, where it would reach uh vaguely, but yes, I do.
32:26
SPEAKER_53: Is there is there a word for the actual negative space inside a shoe into which you put your foot?
32:32
SPEAKER_38: Oh.
32:33
SPEAKER_38: Oh, that's a really good point.
32:34
SPEAKER_53: I don't know if there is uh you know something, it's a tsunami in a sneaker.
32:38
SPEAKER_53: That's what we're talking about.
32:39
SPEAKER_53: It's not a multiple.
32:41
SPEAKER_53: So yeah, I mean, listen, it it when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
32:46
SPEAKER_53: This is this is the issue.
32:47
SPEAKER_53: Uh you know, if you're gonna you're if you if your reason for being is to find racism in things, you are going to find racism everywhere.
32:56
SPEAKER_56: Yeah.
32:57
SPEAKER_53: Yeah.
32:57
SPEAKER_38: It was so funny.
32:58
SPEAKER_38: I saw the ad, so I saw the ad over the weekend as I was scrolling.
33:01
SPEAKER_38: I mentioned this a moment ago.
33:02
SPEAKER_38: I saw the ad over the weekend as I was scrolling through X, and I legitimately thought it was just an ad for Converse.
33:09
SPEAKER_38: It didn't speak to me at all.
33:10
SPEAKER_38: I thought it was boring and bland, and I moved on.
33:12
SPEAKER_38: It wasn't until I was on the Daily Wire this morning and I went, oh, there's controversy around this ad.
33:17
SPEAKER_38: What the heck are they mad about?
33:18
SPEAKER_38: And I was just, you gotta just give me, just give me a break, all right.
33:21
SPEAKER_38: We must be doing well, Andrew Langer.
33:23
SPEAKER_38: We must be doing great in America if this these are the controversies that people have to go and latch onto.
33:29
SPEAKER_53: Well, or or you know, as always, it's a it was a it's a slow, slow news cycle we can see.
33:33
SPEAKER_53: I thought you were gonna ask me about uh about the president announcing that he wants to put uh uh snipers and and uh and uh uh anti-aircraft missiles and things inside the the newly built Arch de Triomphe in DC.
33:47
SPEAKER_38: Um no, I I I want to talk about that, but is it there's an in there's sort of an interesting the Venn diagram, if you will, of things going on.
33:55
SPEAKER_38: So you've got you've got Trump and that monument that he wants to build, that he wants to arm.
34:01
SPEAKER_38: You have this these moves regarding Denmark.
34:04
SPEAKER_38: Okay, Denmark and Greenland.
34:06
SPEAKER_38: They have a deal over the weekend.
34:09
SPEAKER_38: Um, and you have Denmark and Greenland.
34:11
SPEAKER_38: I'm looking at the story here, and I'll get into this further later on in the show.
34:14
SPEAKER_38: Um it aims to strengthen security in the Arctic and the North Atlantic.
34:19
SPEAKER_38: You have members of Trump's administration going on a CNN uh talking about how this is about also the protection of the United States, because if we were attacked, they would be flying over Greenland.
34:31
SPEAKER_38: So he wants to occupy there.
34:32
SPEAKER_38: In the meantime, you kind of have all hell breaking loose in the Middle East right now.
34:37
SPEAKER_38: I don't know if they're all connected, but it's kind of, you know, I think it'd be irresponsible not to look at the big picture of what is being laid laid out here and what's happening right now.
34:45
SPEAKER_53: You know, listen, I'm not gonna say that we are neck deep in World War III.
34:49
SPEAKER_53: And I and I really want to say that.
34:50
SPEAKER_53: I'm not saying we are neck deep in World War III.
34:53
SPEAKER_53: Um but I, you know, it's moments like these that I do wonder if folks saw, if there was anybody who saw all of the various things that were happening around the world at the same time in 1914 and saw, you know, that that there was uh one major conflict coming, or did they continue to see them, you know, for the longest time as just a series of of regional conflicts?
35:16
SPEAKER_53: You know, the reality is, and it's so funny because I am in the midst of rereading uh Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising, which if you never you folks, if you haven't read it, you know, this was the precursor to the Jack Ryan novels.
35:30
SPEAKER_53: It was a a book that he wrote with a guy named Larry Bond.
35:34
SPEAKER_53: They had done some naval war gaming together, literally like this came out of a tabletop war gaming thing that they'd done together.
35:43
SPEAKER_53: Um, and it talks about the strategic importance of Iceland, uh, both in terms of its relationship to the submarine sonar nets, the Sosus nets, the early warning systems there, uh, but also in terms of the air defense um uh of the North Atlantic.
36:00
SPEAKER_53: And when, you know, the in the book, one of the things that the Soviets do is they capture Iceland and and it it essentially, you know, closes it in no small respects the North Atlantic.
36:12
SPEAKER_53: So, you know, the the strategic importance of Greenland cannot be understated.
36:17
SPEAKER_53: Um and a deal is a is a good thing.
36:20
SPEAKER_53: This is, you know, it will and the problem, of course, is that the significance of the Greenland-Denmark-America deal is going to get buried in the um um in the uh I was gonna say the interference, but but you know, buried in the noise uh of everything else that's going on in the world.
36:38
SPEAKER_53: And that's a frankly, it's a damn shame because you know, it is it is a really good deal for America.
36:44
SPEAKER_38: Um, I want to add a couple of elements to this.
36:47
SPEAKER_38: Ukrainian forces fired more than a thousand drones at Russia over the weekend.
36:52
SPEAKER_38: Hundreds that were launched toward Moscow.
36:54
SPEAKER_38: Officials said this on Sunday.
36:55
SPEAKER_38: The Kremlin was wrapping up its third and last day of its uh paramilitary elections.
37:01
SPEAKER_38: Uh, as I said before, the United States has warned that fighting between Saudi Arabia and the Iranian-backed Houthis could escalate rapidly after a missile attack targeted Riyadh for the first time since the Yemen conflict resumed.
37:13
SPEAKER_38: And I'm gonna get into I have audio to share later on after we're done with our conversation, Andrew, and I'll get into further details of this.
37:18
SPEAKER_38: But back to your lack of concern of World War III, of which I know, and let me be really clear.
37:23
SPEAKER_53: I'm not saying that it's a lack of concern.
37:25
SPEAKER_53: I sorry, I don't want to, I but what I don't want to do is I want to I don't want to sound alarmist.
37:29
SPEAKER_53: I don't want to sound like the sky is falling.
37:31
SPEAKER_53: Yeah.
37:31
SPEAKER_38: So this is so let me let me let me on so let me talk about my lack of concern of World War III.
37:37
SPEAKER_38: There you go.
37:38
SPEAKER_38: Um, and I'm curious to get your thoughts on this because that's not to say it can't happen, right?
37:42
SPEAKER_38: It's not to say that things can't spiral and escalate.
37:44
SPEAKER_38: And as you've seen throughout history or written in in fiction, you know, it absolutely is possible.
37:50
SPEAKER_38: But I I've thought for the longest time, and we've talked with David Gartz and Steiner Ross about this, because of the fact that everything is so interconnected that you have instant access to information and to imagery, um, wherein when you go back to the previous world wars, not that they were happening in isolation, but there was a disconnect with the American populace because they couldn't see what was happening in real time.
38:14
SPEAKER_38: Mass narratives could not immediately form.
38:17
SPEAKER_38: And so these operations would take place um, you know, country via country, and again, not in isolation, but separate from the larger political narratives that take place.
38:29
SPEAKER_38: Well, that's not the world that we live in anymore.
38:31
SPEAKER_38: Anytime something happens, immediately it has political fallout ramifications.
38:36
SPEAKER_38: Everybody's got an opinion on it.
38:38
SPEAKER_38: And so I I in my view, to make a long story long, in my view, I think that keeps these events from spiraling out of control because everybody is aware and it has become so political.
38:54
SPEAKER_38: What are your thoughts on this?
38:56
SPEAKER_53: I I I listen, I think, you know, to to in support of your thesis is the fact that the direct conflict between Russia and Ukraine didn't get enlarged into something bigger regionally, right?
39:10
SPEAKER_53: You know, you had enough of sort of an instant uh pressure being put on the situation that that you know you didn't have the the United States immediately landing troops, you didn't have uh the various European nations immediately landing troops, they sent materiel um because they didn't want that negative imagery.
39:28
SPEAKER_53: But you know, uh to counter that is the fact that, you know, to counter that thesis is the idea that, you know, um Putin that should have kept Putin from invading Ukraine in the first place.
39:44
SPEAKER_53: Uh I think the problem comes in when you have either a absolute control over your your media or you just don't give a darn about sort of the impression that happens around the world, um, then you can sort of serve to ignore the uh the the social media pressures.
40:04
SPEAKER_53: And I mean that in a good way.
40:05
SPEAKER_53: I mean just sort of the the the instant um uh the the instant feedback you get from having a video out there that goes viral on X or Truth Social or wherever, and and you know the the reaction is swift.
40:19
SPEAKER_53: I I mean that being said, right, I mean I think there has been enough criticism of the president on uh President Trump on both sides of the aisle here.
40:29
SPEAKER_53: You know, you have the anti-war conservatives or the anti-war Republicans who have raised their their concerns.
40:36
SPEAKER_53: I I think that is that certainly is helped by the fact that we have this instant access to information.
40:42
SPEAKER_53: So I, you know, so so that's just it.
40:44
SPEAKER_53: I think, yes, your thesis works when you have leaders who pay attention to what the public is saying, but if they don't care or they shut down the media, um, the independent media, then then it it blunts it blunts the the impact.
41:00
SPEAKER_38: It's interesting.
41:01
SPEAKER_38: I was um uh just as uh as uh uh a coincidence, I was watching there was a clip online from uh Jesse Kelly uh and uh a good friend of mine.
41:10
SPEAKER_38: Uh one of the first interviews he ever did was on my show when I was in uh Win Tucson.
41:14
SPEAKER_38: Have you met have you met Jesse before?
41:16
SPEAKER_38: Oh yeah, I and I think I've met him through you.
41:18
SPEAKER_38: Yes.
41:18
SPEAKER_38: That's what I thought.
41:22
SPEAKER_38: That's kind of what I thought.
41:23
SPEAKER_38: Uh he had a really interesting post.
41:24
SPEAKER_38: He went on this uh on this rant on his show talking about how um that we as a we as voters, as as sort of nationwide constituents, if you will, we have access to the politicians in ways that we never did before.
41:40
SPEAKER_38: And he was making the point of Trump.
41:41
SPEAKER_38: He's like, Trump isn't just posting online, he's reading things online to the point where Jesse says that the president had retweeted things that he had posted.
41:50
SPEAKER_38: And Jesse made the comment that it really is unprecedented, just as a sidebar note, Andrew.
41:55
SPEAKER_38: It really is unprecedented in how you do have access to all these individuals, wherein we used to go and leave messages on, you know, or write letters.
42:03
SPEAKER_38: You can go on social media, tag whatever politician you want, and there is a good chance I'll end up seeing what your what your comment is.
42:10
SPEAKER_38: It was an interesting, uh, again, interesting sidebar based on your comment.
42:13
SPEAKER_53: No, well, it's not a side note, John, because at the end of the day, literally, I'm actually gonna confuse metaphors here, um, because we know that this president tends to take the advice of the last person who was in the room.
42:26
SPEAKER_53: But what happens when the last person in the room is actually someone that Trump has seen on social media?
42:34
SPEAKER_53: You know, so person X leaves the Oval Office, uh, but then you know, Jesse Kelly tweets out something and the president sees it, and and that, you know, that that changes things.
42:43
SPEAKER_53: I mean, it certainly it gets to the back and forth that the president has had regarding AI policy.
42:50
SPEAKER_53: AI is great, but we need an AI task force.
42:53
SPEAKER_53: You know, what what is you know, the the question is what's what all is going on there?
42:57
SPEAKER_53: And and and the subsequent question of did the president have a conversation with chat GPT, as I've been known to do, and and that changed his mind.
43:06
SPEAKER_38: I still haven't done that yet.
43:07
SPEAKER_38: We were watching the chat GPT ad last night, and uh it's um it's their new ad campaign where I don't know the there are these women that are apparently famous that I'm unfamiliar with, but they're talking with chat GPT on their phones and having a conversation.
43:21
SPEAKER_38: Hold on.
43:22
SPEAKER_38: I still I still have not gone down that road and do me a favor and say hi to my buddy John.
43:26
SPEAKER_53: He's on the radio right now and I'm doing an interview with him.
43:29
SPEAKER_55: Oh, absolutely.
43:31
SPEAKER_55: Hi, Don.
43:31
SPEAKER_55: Hope the interview's going great, sending all good vibes your way.
43:35
SPEAKER_38: Thanks.
43:38
SPEAKER_38: I saw it, I saw an interview.
43:40
SPEAKER_38: There was a guy who there was a guy who said he was convinced that AI wasn't real.
43:45
SPEAKER_38: And that when that when you go and talk with Chat GPT, it's uh somebody in some server farm in some third world country who was typing in the responses to you in in Real time and that artificial intelligence wasn't wasn't right.
44:03
SPEAKER_38: Right.
44:04
SPEAKER_53: Right.
44:04
SPEAKER_53: Well, no.
44:04
SPEAKER_53: See, then I I don't I don't know for with my wife if it's if it's the fact that I talked to Chat GPT or the fact that my chat GPT has a British woman's voice, or I was gonna ask.
44:15
SPEAKER_38: Yeah.
44:15
SPEAKER_38: Did you choose that?
44:16
SPEAKER_53: Yeah.
44:17
SPEAKER_38: Did you you did you chose that?
44:18
SPEAKER_53: Oh, you can choose it.
44:19
SPEAKER_53: Yeah, apparently there may be a New Zealand option now.
44:21
SPEAKER_53: I don't know.
44:21
SPEAKER_53: I I uh I went with the British voice because of course when you hear a British accent, it it sounds like it's speaking with authority.
44:28
SPEAKER_53: So even if they're wrong, they sound like they're right.
44:30
SPEAKER_38: Now it recognizes you when you go back and talk to it, right?
44:33
SPEAKER_38: Like it knows, like it remembers your conversations and all that.
44:36
SPEAKER_38: This is why I haven't done it.
44:40
SPEAKER_53: So, you know, it's it's uh it's it it apparently allegedly is not storing this information in a Chinese server somewhere.
44:50
SPEAKER_53: Uh I'm not so sure that I that I believe that.
44:53
SPEAKER_53: So, you know, who knows?
44:54
SPEAKER_53: But it it's uh it's it's good.
44:56
SPEAKER_53: I have not I have not succumbed, thankfully, to uh Chat GPT uh or AI psychosis, whatever, whatever that is.
45:04
SPEAKER_38: Uh as we continue our our coffee talk here with uh Andrew Langer, president of the Institute for Liberty this morning, I do have a couple of blasts that have uh rolled in based off our conversation, Andrew.
45:14
SPEAKER_10: It's um Erickson, Tennessee.
45:16
SPEAKER_10: Without a doubt, Redstorm Rising should be a required read for anybody today.
45:22
SPEAKER_10: Um it is a little bit dated, I believe it's still East and West Germany, but it is still one of the best Tom Clancy books I've ever read.
45:31
SPEAKER_10: And what was it all about?
45:32
SPEAKER_10: Oil.
45:33
SPEAKER_53: That's very true.
45:34
SPEAKER_53: Right, which is why I actually picked it up and started reading it again.
45:38
SPEAKER_53: I I uh you know, the Russians lose a major oil production facility.
45:43
SPEAKER_53: Um, and so they decide that they want to seize the Iranian oil fields, um, but they can't do that without causing a whole wider other uh situation.
45:54
SPEAKER_53: So they invade Europe first, and then and then uh uh and then when when the when Europe is subdued, that's when they're gonna invade Iran.
46:04
SPEAKER_53: Unfortunately, it doesn't quite all go to plan, right?
46:06
SPEAKER_53: No, no, no plan survives first contact with the enemy, as they say.
46:09
SPEAKER_53: But it is a good book.
46:11
SPEAKER_38: Let's uh let's turn our attention over to the election uh for just a moment as I talk with uh Andrew Lang, your president of the Institute for Liberty.
46:17
SPEAKER_38: Um I don't know if you've seen there was some a couple of different uh polling firms uh issued their latest set of polls here in Minnesota, and things are incredibly tight.
46:27
SPEAKER_38: As a matter of fact, you have two uh GOP candidates in the state auditor's race and the attorney general's race who have taken the the lead by a very slim margin, but I usually usually they're they're holding back on the GOP side, so it's probably further ahead.
46:41
SPEAKER_38: Um Lisa Damath is within striking distance of uh Amy Klobishar, and it looks like the Tefoya Flanagan race is all tied up, which in my view means that um Tefoya is more than likely uh leading.
46:54
SPEAKER_38: Now, I think we're an outlier nationwide because we have our own very specific set of controversies, and I don't know how the how the how the DFL, how the Democrats in Minnesota course correct because they've taken this stance of putting Trump on the ballot and not focusing on any of the uh of the issues, and they're doing that because they have nothing to focus on.
47:14
SPEAKER_38: Right.
47:15
SPEAKER_38: Nationwide, though, obviously, we got a few weeks to go, and typically, uh historically, apart from twice, as I've been mentioning many times on the show, the party in power loses power at the midterm elections.
47:26
SPEAKER_38: Those two times, though, Andrew, it was pointed out that uh, and I pointed out that there were externalities involved, uh, the most recent one being post-9-11 when George Bush was in office and Republicans maintained control.
47:38
SPEAKER_38: Um, and I've seen a few arguments, and I kind of I kind of agree that when it comes to externalities having an impact on an election, while there isn't anything specific that we can point to, we are living in unprecedented times which could, you know, also have uh an impact on the midterm elections, much in the same way of those other previous times when the party in power actually kept power.
48:02
SPEAKER_53: Right.
48:03
SPEAKER_53: And and there are a lot of there are a lot of things, there are a lot of moving parts that are in play right now.
48:07
SPEAKER_53: Um, you know, I've been as you know, I've been Eeyore-ish uh about this, especially given historic trends.
48:13
SPEAKER_53: Um, but as has been pointed out to me, you know, um uh Minnesota is one of these states.
48:18
SPEAKER_53: Minnesota and Michigan are two states where where you know they're Michigan certainly, there's a possibility that Republicans are gonna pick up a Senate seat up there.
48:27
SPEAKER_53: Um and and Minnesota, who who knows what's gonna happen sort of down there.
48:32
SPEAKER_53: So what what we have to remember a couple of things.
48:37
SPEAKER_53: Number one, um, Republicans have only now started to spend money.
48:41
SPEAKER_53: Um that that they were holding on to their campaign cash until uh after this midterm convention was happening.
48:50
SPEAKER_53: Uh and and that, you know, so we're we're gonna start to see some gains uh with regards to that.
48:56
SPEAKER_53: And then as somebody pointed out to me at lunch last week, uh, and again, I am Eeyore ish about this stuff.
49:02
SPEAKER_53: Um I I I don't think it's gonna be a blue wave, I think.
49:05
SPEAKER_53: If anything, it's gonna be a blue trickle.
49:07
SPEAKER_53: And and and part of this is as this person pointed out to the whole assembled masses at lunch, as concerned as we are about our candidates and our candidates' chances, or as concerned as Republicans might be, never underestimate the Democrats' capacity to um um mess things up for themselves, you know, with the candidates that they are nominating.
49:32
SPEAKER_53: So, you know, uh for instance, Paxton down in Texas is a fundamentally flawed candidate.
49:40
SPEAKER_53: Um, and if there was any year that the Democrats might pick up a seat in Texas, uh it would be this year.
49:47
SPEAKER_53: Um yet they nominated James Tallerico, who is not a good candidate for them.
49:56
SPEAKER_53: Now he if he wins, you know, God forbid what happens in the Senate at that point.
50:00
SPEAKER_53: Um but but the and if he wins, if if if Talarico wins in Texas, that spells doom for Republicans all over the country, I I think.
50:10
SPEAKER_53: Um but you you look around and and when he gets out there and is immediately able to answer who his favorite drag queen is, uh that sends a message to, you know, the the you know otherwise inclined Baptists in East Texas uh who might vote Democrat because they've got Trump fatigue this year.
50:29
SPEAKER_53: Uh they're like, well, this is not my guy.
50:32
SPEAKER_53: Um Paxton may be flawed, but this guy is crazy.
50:35
SPEAKER_53: So, you know, never underestimate the Democrats' ability to nominate just horrific candidates.
50:43
SPEAKER_38: Andrew Langer, president of the Institute for Liberty.
50:45
SPEAKER_38: Before I uh let you go uh this morning, I'm curious when you do uh what's your mentality when you go to do uh guest hosting?
50:53
SPEAKER_38: Uh, you know, for our friend Tony Katzer or others.
50:55
SPEAKER_38: Well, I know for me, when I've done guest hosting in the past, it's uh I've always enjoyed it, obviously.
51:00
SPEAKER_38: Yeah.
51:00
SPEAKER_38: Um, but there also is that sort of that that idea in the back of my head that, you know, I don't want to violate the expectations of the of the audience, you know, when it comes to their, you know, to their favorite, to their favorite host.
51:13
SPEAKER_38: Um, you may have curious how you how you look at it.
51:17
SPEAKER_53: Well, first of all, my I all of this is tempered for me with with they wouldn't be bringing me on board.
51:22
SPEAKER_53: Uh the host wouldn't agree to have me on board if the host didn't think that I was not gonna do a good as as good a job as he does, right?
51:28
SPEAKER_53: You know, you you never you never have somebody fill in for you who's better than you are.
51:31
SPEAKER_38: Um especially with the case of Tony.
51:34
SPEAKER_53: Yes.
51:35
SPEAKER_53: No, I you know something, no.
51:37
SPEAKER_53: I don't I for me, I just go and I do the the big thing, the big thing for me with the different shows is um how does the clock work and you know what are the you know how what what are the you know what are the segment time limits and do you take phone calls or not?
51:53
SPEAKER_53: Um, you know, like when I fill in for Larry O'Connor when I used to fill in for Larry O'Connor uh for his morning show, it was Newswheel.
52:00
SPEAKER_53: Folks, this is gonna get inside radio here.
52:02
SPEAKER_53: Newswheel is a format where the topic changes every eight minutes, and you don't take phone calls, or at least Larry didn't take it, now that he's syndicated takes phone calls.
52:10
SPEAKER_53: So it's a very different way of approaching it.
52:13
SPEAKER_53: And if you have a co-host, there's a different way of approaching it.
52:16
SPEAKER_53: Um, so you know, with with with Tony, with uh uh uh when I fill in for Derek, for when I fill in for Kim, you know, I go I just want to go and I pull the best audio that I can pull.
52:28
SPEAKER_53: I just approach it like I'm just doing a regular show.
52:29
SPEAKER_53: Like I'm going on the air to do my own show.
52:31
SPEAKER_53: Maybe that's why I don't get hired by places, but you know.
52:34
SPEAKER_38: I did a uh I did a newswheel show in my transition from rock radio into talk radio.
52:39
SPEAKER_38: I mean, I hated it.
52:40
SPEAKER_38: Oh, it was the worst.
52:41
SPEAKER_38: Well, newswheel shows are so are so are so difficult and boring to me.
52:47
SPEAKER_53: You know, but here's the thing.
52:48
SPEAKER_53: With Larry's show, it was a it was it was a uh a hybrid of newswheel and talk.
52:53
SPEAKER_53: So he had a co-host, um, and I knew most of the co-hosts, so it was always, you know, well, what do you think about this?
53:01
SPEAKER_53: You know, uh, you know, listen, you know, let's talk about JD Vance.
53:04
SPEAKER_53: And so is are there really marital problems with JD and Usha Vance?
53:07
SPEAKER_53: So you're telling me there's a chance, because you know, I have a big crush on Usha Vance.
53:11
SPEAKER_53: Um I do have a huge crush on Usha Vance.
53:14
SPEAKER_53: But uh so you know, we have these kinds of conversations, and it well listen, you do it.
53:21
SPEAKER_53: It's funny.
53:22
SPEAKER_53: My good buddy Jerry, uh who is uh he's no longer doing his Sunday show on on uh on WBAL.
53:30
SPEAKER_53: Um uh, you know, Jerry, Jerry doesn't he would have guests on Jerry likes to filibuster.
53:36
SPEAKER_53: Um I like to have conversations, I like to talk to other people.
53:39
SPEAKER_53: Um, you know, as I sit here and filibuster.
53:42
SPEAKER_53: But you know, I I uh I I like to have conversations.
53:45
SPEAKER_38: I wasn't thinking that at all, Andrew.
53:46
SPEAKER_38: Like you're not it wasn't didn't didn't cross my mind in the least bit.
53:49
SPEAKER_38: Just want to let you know, my friend.
53:51
SPEAKER_53: There you go.
53:51
SPEAKER_53: Uh hey, listen, so I'm in for Tony today.
53:54
SPEAKER_53: Uh catching on the on the podcast.
53:56
SPEAKER_53: Well, actually, it doesn't matter because I no longer have to worry about the other programming on your station, John.
54:01
SPEAKER_53: Um, you don't.
54:03
SPEAKER_00: No, it's just me.
54:04
SPEAKER_53: Yeah, listen.
54:05
SPEAKER_53: So I'm on for Tony uh noon to three W I B C today.
54:09
SPEAKER_53: It'll be fun.
54:10
SPEAKER_53: Uh you can call in.
54:12
SPEAKER_53: And um, and then I I uh my own podcast, uh um the lunch hour podcast from the Washington Signal.
54:19
SPEAKER_53: New episode drops today.
54:20
SPEAKER_53: I sit down with Matt Mowers, uh, who is uh an international relations expert.
54:25
SPEAKER_53: We talk about the UN General Assembly John, which kicks off today.
54:28
SPEAKER_53: Um, tomorrow in New York.
54:30
SPEAKER_38: You should uh send me the podcast.
54:32
SPEAKER_38: I'll throw it up on the stream uh once the show, once the once the show is done.
54:36
SPEAKER_38: Uh I'm gonna leave you with this uh comment uh came in for you, Andrew Langer.
54:40
SPEAKER_30: This is for Andrew.
54:41
SPEAKER_30: Andrew, geez, man, I'm more Eeyore than you are.
54:45
SPEAKER_30: If uh GOP can snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, they'll do it.
54:51
SPEAKER_30: Absolutely.
54:52
SPEAKER_30: Uh they like money and they don't like spending it.
54:56
SPEAKER_30: Thanks, buddy.
54:57
SPEAKER_38: So you gotta friend in Lou there, uh Andrew Langer.
55:00
SPEAKER_53: As I said, just always temper that Eeyore ish with the fact that the that that you know the other side they managed to they managed to nominate bad candidates.
55:09
SPEAKER_38: So Andrew Langer, as always, hey, have a have a good time on Tony's show today, and I will talk to you again next week, buddy.
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SPEAKER_28: I would say that terminology is what we have going on with the United States.
58:02
SPEAKER_28: It was more of an emotional type of thing.
58:04
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58:11
SPEAKER_38: I'm gonna stop it here.
58:12
SPEAKER_38: I know it's a little hard to hear.
58:13
SPEAKER_38: He makes a good point, and thank you for the comment.
58:15
SPEAKER_38: Uh, talking about the externalities that could go and drive election uh outcomes.
58:21
SPEAKER_38: And he's talking about the fraud, not just here in Minnesota, but nationwide.
58:24
SPEAKER_38: And it's hard to get a gauge on that without being in other states like California to find out how much the issue of fraud is top of mind for voters.
58:34
SPEAKER_38: There's a reason why the left has ignored up until this most recent controversy that we'll talk about coming up in the uh eight o'clock uh hour of this um IC-involved shooting in Austin, Texas, uh over the weekend.
58:49
SPEAKER_38: Immediately some BS narratives started to uh to form.
58:53
SPEAKER_38: But there's a reason why the left had moved off of, except for Minnesota with Operation Metro Surge, but nationwide pushing the ICE issue because that is an issue that crosses party lines and has for decades.
59:07
SPEAKER_38: ICE is different.
59:09
SPEAKER_38: The left has been able to successfully go and vilify and demonize immigrations and customs uh enforcement, but there's a reason why you haven't seen anybody out there telling people to take to the streets to get in the way of lawful law enforcement of ICE because this close to the election, it wouldn't be a winning argument for them.
59:29
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59:51
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59:54
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59:55
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1:02:25
SPEAKER_38: I think both of us are pleased that the Vikings win yesterday in the rain, messy as it was.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_38: Do you know who we're playing next, by the way?
1:02:33
SPEAKER_38: Gonna schedule update.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_38: Tampa Bay.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_39: When is that next Sunday?
1:02:36
SPEAKER_39: Yes.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_39: Awesome.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_39: Hopefully the weather is better down there.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_39: Oh, yeah.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_39: Yeah, what a matter.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_39: Well, you never know.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_38: It is Tampa.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_39: I think it was raining yesterday there.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_39: I believe so.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_38: What's the expectation on that game, by the way?
1:02:45
SPEAKER_38: I have no I have no idea what the expectation is.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_39: Well, Tampa, I believe, is 0-2, so they're uh free-fallen right now.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_38: Oh, okay.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_38: All right.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_38: Hopefully we're catching them at a good time.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_38: Not so not uh the pewter power, not so much at the moment.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_38: See, I know Mike.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_38: I've actually been to a game there.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_38: Well, I don't need to take that back.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_38: I've been to the stadium.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_38: I haven't actually watched a game there, but I have been to the uh to the Tampa Stadium.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_38: So thank you for that bit of uh of an update.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_38: Uh raucous NASCAR race at Bristol.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_38: Fights breaking out left and right.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, it was pretty cool.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_38: What wasn't cool was my driver Alex Bowman uh wrecking himself out.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, that sucked.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_38: When you're uh three wide, don't go right.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_38: And that's exactly what he did was bad news.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_38: Uh speaking of bad news, the United States warned that fighting between Saudi Arabia and the Iran-baked backed Houthis could escalate rapidly after a missile attack targeted Riyadh for the first time since the Yemen conflict resumed.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_38: President Donald Trump cut his uh weekend short at Camp Tab at Camp David, the secluded presidential complex in rural Maryland, to return unexpectedly to the White House.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_38: The early return comes as a new threshold was crossed in the conflict between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis, who control a large part of Yemen and are fighting government forces backed by a coalition led by Riyadh.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_38: I want to get you uh up to speed on a couple of these issues.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_38: First, um, this issue of what's happening with uh the Houthis in Saudi Arabia can be a little bit convoluted.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_38: I found this commentary on X over the weekend.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_38: Nice summary of what we're looking at in terms of this recent conflict that, as we were talking about with Andrew Langer, has a lot of people concerned about the potential of a larger World War III type conflict breaking out.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_38: As I expressed with Andrew, I don't believe that that is going to happen because of the way that we bring in information, that we put out information and talk about it all the time.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_38: But how these narratives form and everything becomes so immediately political, the ramifications of that trickle down into the decision making of the leaders that are involved in these conflicts.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_38: And it ends up becoming not politically viable to go and wage a larger war.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_38: That's not to say these conflicts don't flare up.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_38: That's not to say they couldn't spiral out of control.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_38: But I think because of the politics involved, it keeps these conflicts from spiraling out of control like they have throughout history, wherein they weren't isolated events, but there was a disconnect between the operations and the citizens of the country that's involved in those operations.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_38: And that's just simply not the case anymore.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_38: But here is some commentary regarding what took place over the weekend to kind of give you some background.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_55: Okay, we have some big news coming out of the Middle East.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_55: Here's everything you need to know about Saudi Arabia and the Houthis.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_55: So Saudi Arabia is a country in the Middle East.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_55: Houthis, ragtag terror group from Yemen.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_55: And they're pretty pathetic usually, but recently they've been funded and backed up by the Islamic regime of Iran, who's backed up by China.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_55: So this week, Houthis launched.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_55: Weapons at Saudi's city of Mecca, which is the holiest city in Islam.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_55: So Saudi gets pissed, real mad, and they start begging Americans and Israel for help.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_55: Meanwhile, the Palestinians in Gaza are cheering Saudi's downfall, even though the Saudis provided support to Gaza.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_55: This is like major backstabbing.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_55: But quick backstory.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_55: There are a few countries in the Middle East who have westernized, like the United Arab Emirates, the UAE, where Dubai is.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_55: There are some that have not westernized at all, and where Islam fully governs, like Afghanistan.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_55: And Saudi Arabia is kind of in the middle.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_55: They still triangulate or hang and bang with China and Iran, but they also pretend to be our friend.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_55: So in the past, Obama and Trump have tried to work with the Saudis.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_55: We'll buy their oil and then they use the money that we gave them to buy our weapons.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_55: It's a cute little thing we do with a lot of people.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_55: We also help them build military bases so that they can defend themselves against bad guys like Saddam Hussein, the former evil leader of Iraq.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_55: So, Saudi, kinda too-faced, but we help them anyway because we're nice.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_55: So today, the pathetic Houthis who somehow managed to bomb their way all the way to the coastline of Yemen, where the bomb al-Mandab straight is.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_55: And for some reason, Saudi Arabia is incapable of using the weapons we supplied them to defend themselves.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_55: Because Islamic regimes don't know how to govern or get it together.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_55: And Pakistan and Turkey, who just said to Saudi Arabia, Oh, we totally help you out if you're born a pickle, they're not just standing there and handing out free high-fives and doing nothing.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_55: So now, if the Houthis take full control of Bob the Strait, guess who really gets control?
1:07:31
SPEAKER_55: Iran, their sugar daddy.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_55: Then Iran will have Bob the Strait, which they need because we've pretty much taken the Strait of Hormuz back.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_55: We took all of their minds out, and our navy is awesome.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_55: So we pretty much restored oil levels back to normal over there.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_55: So Iran needs Bob.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_55: But Bob is predominantly used by Europe, and 4% of the global oil supply goes through there.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_55: So if Iran controls it, then prices will go up again.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_55: And before you try and say that the Iran war was a mistake, nope, nope, nope, nope.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_55: This was yet another reason why we had to go in.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_55: Because if Iran can control the entire global oil supply like that, then that is a massive problem because they are a theocratic regime that funds, supports, and arms terrorists who scream death to America and Allahua.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_55: This war is only costing us 3% of our annual defense budget.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_55: And yes, global oil prices are up, but that is the price we have to pay.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_55: And remember, Iran wants these prices to go up, up, up.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_55: So the American people get really mad at Trump, and then they elect in a Democrat who will cave to Iran and let them get powerful again.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_55: The point is, Iran is the bad guy here.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_55: They are the snake whose head needs chopped off.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_55: And Saudi Arabia, I am disappointed in you.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_55: This is a pathetic look on Yell's part.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_55: More on this later.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_38: Fantastic uh commentary.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_38: And I want to add uh to this, I have a few more uh audio clips to share, especially getting into the justification and the reason why we went into Iran in the first place.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_38: Uh this uh just was posted by OSINT Defender on X.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_38: President Donald Trump made a post on a true social app this morning highlighting Russian energy infrastructure losses uh during the war with Ukraine, adding that this ridiculous and never-ending war with Ukraine uh must be ended.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_38: Now, uh recently on a podcast, uh, Senator John Kennedy dropped uh some really interesting details regarding classified uh intel that really changes everything regarding the you know, regarding the mindset and the justification of why we are doing what we are doing and why we started Operation Epic Fury in Iran in the first place.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_38: Coming up, I am going to um before we dive into the local news, I do want to also make sure uh that we talk a bit about Trump uh banning uh several different leftist media outlets from the White House and why I'm in support of this, by the way.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_38: Uh first off, again, here is uh Senator uh John uh Kennedy.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_59: Our intelligence, here's what our intelligence showed, and I've seen it.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_59: It's classified, but I've seen it.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_59: But I can give you the a general outline.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_59: Our intelligence showed that uh Iran was building up its missile capacity, both ballistic and cruise, and they were going to to uh compile so many missiles and drones that they were going to turn to America and Israel and say, we're restarting our nuclear weapons program.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_59: And if you try to stop us, we're going to destroy the mess rest of the Middle East, and by the way, our missiles can now reach London and Parish, Paris, and uh and Germany.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_45: And you saw you saw reports of that.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_59: I've seen the intelligence.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_45: Okay.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_59: And President Trump was faced, well, do I let them continue?
1:10:55
SPEAKER_59: He had already bombed their nuclear, some of their nuclear facilities.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_59: But he he he was faced with the decision, do I let them get to the point where they have so many missiles and drones, ballistic and crews, that they could destroy the Middle East, that they could hit London, that they might even be able to hit the United States, or do I go in to stop them?
1:11:18
SPEAKER_59: And he did.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_38: Again, that was Senator John uh John Kennedy talking recently on a podcast.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_38: If you'd like to comment, 651-964-0294.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_38: Let's go here.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_22: Morning, John.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_22: I think uh you realize this, but just a reminder that anyone who thinks that we can deal with the problem of the Hoosies without first dealing with the blowfish is really coming up short.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_38: I think I was it's it's it's hootie.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_38: It's uh it's hootie and the blowfish.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_38: I'm almost afraid to ask Devin.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_38: Devin, Hootie and the Blowfish?
1:11:55
SPEAKER_38: Not familiar either.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_38: Oh my gosh.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_59: I'm not that old.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_38: I'm really not.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_38: Thank you for the comment.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_38: You're fascinating to uh talk to.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_38: On Sunday, U.S.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_38: Central Intelligence Agency Director John Ratcliffe met with the Egyptian president.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_38: The visit came days after the Saudi uh prince was also in uh the at the Egyptian capital, where he was urging safe and secure navigation after the Houthis had seized the Yemen coast, as was just uh reported.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_38: Uh, the attack has piled further pressure on the global economy, rocked by seven months of war in the Middle East, which began in February, and with the U.S.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_38: Israeli strikes on Iran, which has seen the Islamic Republic respond with attacks in the region.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_38: I want to play you just one more clip uh in just a moment here uh regarding why we went into Iran in the first place.
1:12:54
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1:13:59
SPEAKER_00: Here's what I think.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna be a different take than everybody else's when you said he's 80 years old.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_00: Look, he became president talking about no more wars.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, he blasted no more wars.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_00: But he got here and he's 80 years old.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_00: And he's looking at the future.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_00: The future to him is like mine, shorter than your future and your future just by age.
1:14:25
SPEAKER_00: But yet he's made a decision to do this.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_00: He's this whole thing is driven by uh nuclear holocaust from Iran.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_00: He could have kicked the can, but he didn't.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_00: He decided to do this.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_00: And when he did it, he knew what was gonna happen.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_00: He knew that gas prices would go up, he knew affordability was the issue he got elected on, he knew that was the issue that would drive his poll numbers down, and guess what?
1:14:54
SPEAKER_00: His poll numbers have been driven down as a result of this.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_00: But here's where I think that Trump's gonna be rewarded.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_00: When he said he doesn't care about the midterms, he does very much.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_00: That's why they're trying to change districts all over the country.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_00: When he says he doesn't care about inflation, he does.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_00: But it turns out that this guy would rather leave us the world, not us, the world, in a safer position because nuclear weapons in the hands of those maniacs is the most dangerous thing facing us and our children.
1:15:35
SPEAKER_38: I completely agree with this commentary, by the way.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_38: Um, and I've said this before, but let me just reiterate.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_38: President Donald Trump is doing what he thinks is best for the nation for the long term, regardless of the impact that it's going to end up having on the midterm election.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_38: Now, you may not like it, I can understand it, but that is the reality of what he's trying to do.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_38: I may not agree with everything that Trump does, but what I do appreciate, and the reason why I am continue to be in support of what he does is because I believe that he believes that he's doing what's in the best interest.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_38: And it's less about me and it's more about my children's future.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_38: I have fewer days ahead of me than I do behind me.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_38: And this is the same thing that rings true when you go back to President uh President Bush.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_38: The biggest frustration that I had when he was in office is that he had the opportunity with full control to go and do something with the border, and he didn't.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_38: He blew it.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_38: He could have done it then.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_38: Trump has done an admirable job of stopping the flow as it relates to illegal immigration.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_38: But again, you may not like it because it could have a negative impact on the midterm election.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_38: But President Trump is using the time that he has while he has it to try to go and do the best job he possibly can to secure our future as a nation.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_38: So again, I just kind of wanted to uh to double down on the commentary that I played here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiments.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_29: Good morning, John Victor here.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_29: You know, I think it's funny.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_29: So the whole world, they all get their like panties in a blanch about the US thinks it's the global police.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_29: They think they want to be or they have to be in control of everything.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_29: But then we give them munitions, we give them weapons, we give them planes, we give them missiles, we give them all sports craft to defend their stuff, and they don't know how to do it.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_29: So if they don't know how to do it with weapons that we supply, and they're mad at us for protecting all of their property, what the hell are we supposed to do?
1:17:48
SPEAKER_29: We have to be the global police because they're too stupid to do it themselves.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_38: Thank you for the blast of Victor 651-964-0294.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_38: Okay, before we turn our attention to some local matters, uh two more uh stories from over the weekend.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_38: First, Denmark and Greenland expressed a cautious about a deal with the U.S.
1:18:10
SPEAKER_38: to bolster the military presence in Greenland.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_38: I was talking about this with Andrew Langer last hour.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_38: While maintaining Danish control, the agreement to be signed during the UN General Assembly aims to strengthen security in the Arctic and the North Atlantic.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_38: While specifics remain undisclosed, the deal reportedly bans non-NATO bases and limits the investments from adversaries like China and uh Russia.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_38: Adana Bash uh was speaking to a member of the Trump administration on this particular issue over the weekend.
1:18:41
SPEAKER_45: Well, I'll let the details um uh be announced uh by the President, Secretary Rubio.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_45: What I can say is the Arctic is something that the President has been focused on as part of protecting uh the United States.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_45: People should understand that if we're ever attacked by any type of intercontinental missiles, they'll come over the Arctic.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_45: Our radars, our sensors are incredibly important up there.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_45: They need to be defended, we need to have full access.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_45: Uh and no one, Dana, was paying attention to the Arctic until President Trump was.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_45: Uh I can tell you with certainty that our NATO allies were not spending what they need to.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_45: Now President Trump uh has an icebreaker deal in place with Finland.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_45: Uh he has the spending uh that he's driving coming out of NATO, and we'll now have the full access and basing that we need for iron dome, access to critical minerals, access to the energy reserves that are up there, and importantly, we're starting to see shipping flow through as the ice retreats.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_45: Uh, we're starting to see shipping bypass checkpoints or global choke points like the Suez Canal, Panama Canal, Straits of Hormuz, and go over the top through the Arctic.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_45: So it's incredibly important.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_45: The President's been focused on it.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_45: And for all of those naysayers out there, we now have a diplomatic agreement uh with Denmark and with Greenland to ensure America's high north is safe.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_38: The other big news from over the weekend, and I expect that this is going to get a lot more commentary throughout the day and probably the week.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_38: CNN, MS Now, and political reporters were denied access to the White House after President Trump banned them for allegedly reporting fake news.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_38: The news agencies condemned the ban, of course, asserting their First Amendment rights and the importance of independent journalism.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_38: The incident follows a similar ban against the Associated Press last year.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_38: Trump posted that CNN MS now and political would be banned from the White House, accusing them, as I mentioned, of reporting fake news.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_38: He said they are consistently reporting fake news and threatened to extend the ban to even more outlets.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_38: Here's a bit of what Trump had to say uh when questioned about this by the media over the weekend.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_12: Oh, the ban on the free press, right?
1:21:02
SPEAKER_12: Uh a very simple ban.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_12: I don't want them in my office.
1:21:07
SPEAKER_12: I don't want them here.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_12: I would say the ban would go as far as you can.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_12: And if they could straighten themselves out, you know, if you if they could straighten themselves out, I'd love it.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_12: Look, uh they're very dishonest people.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_12: They write in a very dishonest way.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_12: Uh ABC Fake News gave me$16 million that was agreed to.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_12: $16 million that I won from ABC News because George Slapidopoulos wrote incorrect stuff.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_12: CBS gave me$38 million because they broadcast Kamala Harris on 60 Minutes, and the question bore no relationship to what she said.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_12: You saw that.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_12: I'm right now suing BBC because they have the granddaddy of them all.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_12: They have where I said, walk freely and patriotically, having to do with January 6th, and they put horrible fighting words into my mouth.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_12: With me actually saying it, I said, I never said that.
1:22:05
SPEAKER_12: And when we checked, uh it was BBC actually changed my language, and they put words in my mouth.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_12: That's the furthest I've seen.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_12: So that's we have numerous uh lawsuits.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_12: We'll be showing these people too.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_12: But uh the ban is because they are fake news, they cannot write the truth, and Politico is very bad.
1:22:25
SPEAKER_12: And politico, frankly, I think what they did was illegal.
1:22:28
SPEAKER_12: They accepted a uh the world's largest subscription.
1:22:32
SPEAKER_12: They got eight million dollars or something like that for a subscription to their stupid uh you know lightweight paper.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_12: But I I will say Politico and MS now, which nobody ever heard of, and CNN, which is doing very poorly, the reason they do so poorly is because they have no credibility.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_12: And if they had credibility, I wouldn't be sitting here right now.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_12: So we are banning them, yes, we are, and then maybe others to follow.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_12: Thank you very much, everybody.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_38: So before I share with you my thoughts on this, because I support what President Donald Trump is doing here, and I want to explain why.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_38: But let me get there through the commentary of Christopher Rufo.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_38: Christopher Rufo, fairly well-known commentator, was talking on a round table over the weekend about this issue.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_38: He disagrees with uh what Trump has done, and this is the reason why.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_02: Everything in this country is always just like everything is terrible unless our side does it, and then it's always perfectly okay.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_02: He was on the Bill Maher uh show, by the way.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like the free speech thing?
1:23:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean, come on.
1:23:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that has to make you laugh a little.
1:23:35
SPEAKER_02: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_03: This is a mistake in the same way it was a mistake for Robert Kraft to ban Macklemore.
1:23:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, you're giving your opponents an easy win.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_03: They can they can say we stand for free speech, good journalism, we're being uh, you know, kicked out of the White House.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_03: I think it's a mistake uh strategically, but it's also a mistake on the substance.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_03: The president's best moments are oftentimes in combat with people from the left-wing media.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_03: And so, as conservatives, we don't have the benefit of having the mainstream media on our side.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_03: We have to be smart in how we do combat with the left-wing media if we want to have our message break through.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_03: And so hunkering down, remaining in the echo chamber, it's a mistake on all fronts.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_03: We agree.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_38: We all agree.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_38: I completely disagree with Christopher Rufo's take here.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_38: In theory, I like what he has to say.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_38: He's right.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_38: But the problem is that's not the reality of what's been going on with the media and Trump.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_38: We used to live in a society pre-internet and even post-internet prior to the rise of social media that ended up changing everything.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_38: We used to live in a society where these things were kind of self-governed.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_38: You'd have the public that would push back when the media would go and deliver inconsistencies all the way up to lies.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_38: We don't have that anymore.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_38: The media basically just gets away with whatever they they want to say.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_38: The leftist broken and brainwashed just fall right in line with the commentary, and Trump's tired of it.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_38: They force the issue and they get Trump to react.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_38: But if the media is going to continue to go and take his comments, twist them, straight up lie, remove the context necessary to provide the proper analysis of the complete picture of what's going on, what's the president left with?
1:25:30
SPEAKER_38: And there's also sort of a a boy cry, you know, the boy who cries wolf situation over this as well.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_38: Because they've called Trump a dictator, they've called an authoritarian, you know, a totalitarian.
1:25:42
SPEAKER_38: You name it over and over and over again.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_38: And I know that they'll use a moment like this where he's banning the media because of the lies and the misinformation and the fake news that they report, and they'll use that to continue to call them him those names.
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SPEAKER_38: But they've been doing this for years and it's not changing.
1:25:59
SPEAKER_38: They'll be calling him those names anyway.
1:26:01
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1:26:06
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SPEAKER_38: And the president's tired of it, and I don't blame him.
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SPEAKER_38: So if they're gonna continue to go and put out misinformation, fake news, and lies, then no, you're not gonna get access.
1:26:22
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SPEAKER_38: CNN MS Now political reporters denied access to the White House after President Donald Trump banned them for allegedly reporting fake news.
1:32:50
SPEAKER_38: Let's get to some of your thoughts on the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
1:32:55
SPEAKER_38: And let's go and hear from uh Mildred and Brainerd.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_34: Dave Morgan's there from Brainerd.
1:32:59
SPEAKER_34: We are living under a dictatorship, and you are seriously regarded if you don't think otherwise.
1:33:05
SPEAKER_38: How?
1:33:07
SPEAKER_38: Just because you say it doesn't make it so.
1:33:11
SPEAKER_38: I know the example he's gonna give here, just or she's gonna give here just a second.
1:33:15
SPEAKER_38: But how?
1:33:17
SPEAKER_38: I'll explain why this is not a dictatorship.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_38: But there is nothing even remotely close to a dictatorship when it comes to President Donald Trump and his administration and his second term in office.
1:33:29
SPEAKER_34: Um yeah.
1:33:31
SPEAKER_34: Banning the press from asking questions and saying that everything they put out is a lie and that he's going to sue them for reporting.
1:33:40
SPEAKER_34: We have freedom of the press.
1:33:41
SPEAKER_38: Let me stop here.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_38: He's not saying everything that they put out is a lie.
1:33:45
SPEAKER_38: He's saying that some of the stuff that they put out is a lie.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_38: He gave examples in the clips that I just shared with you.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_38: And we're not living at a time when we don't have access to the news 24-7 and the news doesn't have other access to the president.
1:34:04
SPEAKER_38: President Donald Trump holds press conferences constantly.
1:34:09
SPEAKER_38: He replies to individuals online.
1:34:11
SPEAKER_38: There is all kinds of different access that President Donald Trump gives to the mainstream media.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_38: It's not as if these different outlets won't continue to have access to the president.
1:34:22
SPEAKER_38: What Trump is saying is he's sick and tired of the media not self-policing as they used to do, and he's over it.
1:34:30
SPEAKER_38: So therefore, you're not going to get access, which is completely within his right to go and do so.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_38: There is nothing dictatorial about that in the slightest.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_38: You want to point to something because you believe in your twisted corrupt brain that Trump is a dictator.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_38: But the truth of the matter is he's not.
1:34:52
SPEAKER_38: And this is not evidence to support that claim.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_34: He is pooping on the Constitution and MAGA.
1:34:59
SPEAKER_34: You are clapping and acting like it's a good thing because hard questions from Caitlin Collins.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_34: Why is Trump and you guys so scared of people like Caitlin Collins?
1:35:09
SPEAKER_38: Tell me you're an idiot without telling me you're an idiot, and I give you an individual who's actually giving credence to a hack like Caitlin Collins.
1:35:18
SPEAKER_34: Asking a question, especially if it's about Epstein or the Iran War, but you like to ignore that.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_38: Um Yeah, because you're stuck on stupid and you bring it up every single time that Mildred goes and leaves a post, regardless of what we're talking about.
1:35:33
SPEAKER_34: Yeah, not not sure why this is a good thing.
1:35:36
SPEAKER_34: This is kind of the end of the United States, um, and is pretty calm y, pretty dictator, pretty fascist.
1:35:44
SPEAKER_34: Um absolutely insane.
1:35:46
SPEAKER_34: Would love to hear you defend it though.
1:35:48
SPEAKER_34: No, you won't.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_34: Thanks.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, I I I just did.
1:35:51
SPEAKER_38: And we're gonna get to comments based off of your ridiculous assessment.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_38: And you should really probably go look up the definitions of words before you go and use them because you speak those words, but I don't think you understand what they truly mean.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_15: Good morning, John Rich here.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_15: So, in regards to Trump banning CNN and a few other news agencies from the White House, a press pass to the White House is a privilege.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_15: He has not stopped them from expressing their freedom of speech or First Amendment.
1:36:26
SPEAKER_15: They can write all the articles.
1:36:27
SPEAKER_15: He just isn't letting them into his news conference.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_15: That's not against the First Amendment.
1:36:33
SPEAKER_15: Unlikely, if we go back to Roosevelt's days, which was a Democratic president, he actually incarcerated people for saying things against his agenda and/or him.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_15: So Trump isn't putting them in jail like Roosevelt of the Democrats did.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_38: I had a uh comment that uh came over uh uh from an incredibly uh beautiful and intelligent woman.
1:37:01
SPEAKER_38: So, why is Mildred okay with the press lying?
1:37:04
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, exactly.
1:37:05
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, Mildred from Brainerd, why are you okay with the press lying?
1:37:08
SPEAKER_38: You didn't push back on what President Donald Trump said.
1:37:10
SPEAKER_38: He gave specific examples of how the media has lied in the past.
1:37:17
SPEAKER_38: Why are you suddenly completely okay with that?
1:37:20
SPEAKER_12: Oh, the ban on the free press, right?
1:37:23
SPEAKER_12: Uh a very simple ban.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_12: I don't want them in my office.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_12: I don't want them here.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_12: I would say the ban would go as far as you can.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_12: And if they could straighten themselves out, you know, if you if they could straighten themselves out, I'd love it.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_12: Look, uh, they're very dishonest people.
1:37:39
SPEAKER_12: They write in a very dishonest way.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_12: Uh ABC Fake News gave me$16 million that was agreed to.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_12: $16 million that I won from ABC News because George Slopidopoulos wrote incorrect stuff.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_12: CBS gave me$38 million.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_38: Slopodopoulos.
1:37:59
SPEAKER_38: I picked a butt the first time, I didn't comment.
1:38:02
SPEAKER_38: I prefer Snuffolophagus personally.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_12: It's because they broadcast Kamala Harris on 60 Minutes, and the question bore no relationship to what she said.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_12: You saw that.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_12: I'm right now suing BBC because they have the granddaddy of them all.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_12: They have where I said walk freely and patriotically, having to do with January 6th, and they put horrible fighting words into my mouth.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_12: With my with me actually saying it, I said, I never said that.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_12: And when we checked, uh, it was BBC actually changed my language, and they put words in my mouth.
1:38:46
SPEAKER_38: That's yeah, and listen, we could spend the rest of the show giving examples.
1:38:51
SPEAKER_38: The president's tired of it.
1:38:53
SPEAKER_38: And like I said, this is not a time when when you would say this is the only access that these individuals have to the president.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_38: It's just not it's just not true.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_38: This is this is the most accessible president in in in modern times, certainly in my lifetime.
1:39:09
SPEAKER_38: The amount of time that he spends behind the podium giving speeches, taking questions from the press.
1:39:17
SPEAKER_38: If he wants to keep them from coming to the White House to try to basically teach them a lesson, going, why don't you go and report the truth instead of these lies?
1:39:25
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, I don't blame him in the least bit.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_38: Not everybody agrees with he.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_38: Some people actually agree with Mildred.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_21: I actually agree with Mildred.
1:39:33
SPEAKER_21: I think banning the press is stupid.
1:39:35
SPEAKER_21: It's just a dumb thing to do.
1:39:37
SPEAKER_21: We all know that they're less-leaning attack dogs, but I think he could have done it in a different way.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_21: It just gives the less like Mildred more ammunition to It doesn't hold on.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_38: I'm sorry, I and I'm gonna play the rest of your combat, but let me just pop in here.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_38: It doesn't matter.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_38: It doesn't matter what Trump does.
1:39:54
SPEAKER_38: They're gonna cr they criticize every single thing that he does.
1:39:58
SPEAKER_38: It doesn't matter.
1:40:00
SPEAKER_38: What different way would you go and deal with this?
1:40:03
SPEAKER_38: At some point there needs to be a statement made.
1:40:07
SPEAKER_38: When you're the individual that's being lied about constantly and on the most important position on the face of the planet, this is kind of the least of what Trump could have done.
1:40:17
SPEAKER_38: And they complain and bitch and moan about every single move and everything that he says, even when they are applying the context.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_21: I think it was it was dumb.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_21: Trump does some dumb things.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_21: I I'm a big supporter, but he does some dumb things.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_21: Have a good day.
1:40:39
SPEAKER_38: Well, like I said before, um, when it comes to Trump, he does what he believes is right regardless of the political ramifications.
1:40:45
SPEAKER_38: And that's personally what I want in any president.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_38: I don't want you looking and gaming the situation.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_38: You need to make smart moves, don't misunderstand, but at the same time, you know, you do what's right.
1:40:58
SPEAKER_38: And this was the right thing in Trump's mind.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_38: Let's go here.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_27: Good morning, John.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_27: Hey, it's Joe from Victoria.
1:41:04
SPEAKER_27: Maybe we're looking at this reporter thing the wrong way.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_27: Maybe there's a credible threat, and they're gonna switch the president to a different office, and he's just being nice and not putting these particular reporters in harm's way as a consideration.
1:41:20
SPEAKER_38: That certainly is a con i is a theory.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_38: I don't think there's much credence to that theory, but it is a theory, nonetheless.
1:41:27
SPEAKER_38: Uh 651-964-0294.
1:41:32
SPEAKER_14: Isn't living in a dictatorship, a lot like living in Minnesota under dictator Tim John Walls, where if you don't do what he says, you're gonna get thrown in jail, like his COVID response team, for example.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, that's a good point.
1:41:48
SPEAKER_38: That's more dictatorship-esque than anything that Trump has done.
1:41:52
SPEAKER_35: Yeah, I think somebody needs to tell Mildred there that in a dictatorship you only have one media outlet.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_35: In Mildred's world, that's CNN.
1:42:02
SPEAKER_35: But not news for CNN is not the media, just like the stock market is not the economy.
1:42:08
SPEAKER_38: That's a great point as well.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_38: Uh, keep your comments uh rolling into the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_37: Hey, Mildred, a dictatorship is you have to get an unproven shot from a person that is lying to you about the pandemic, or you lose your job, you lose your career, you lose your family.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_37: You can't see your family over the holidays, otherwise you're gonna be reported.
1:42:34
SPEAKER_37: Yada yada yada.
1:42:36
SPEAKER_37: Tell us about dictatorships, Mr.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_37: Holier Than Thou.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_07: Good job, John.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_07: You know you're over the target with Millie Villa Millie from Brainerd.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_07: It's alter voice synthesizer and uh comes after you.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_19: I remember back in 2021 at the end of Trump's first term, how he was effectively deplatformed by just about every news media outlet and every social media outlet in various other websites.
1:43:22
SPEAKER_19: No one said a word about that.
1:43:24
SPEAKER_19: Matter of fact, I'm guessing that Milky was applauding like a heart seal.
1:43:29
SPEAKER_19: Thanks.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_38: We're gonna continue to uh take your comments as they roll in to the uh blaster line at 651-964-0294.
1:43:40
SPEAKER_38: And again, we'll take your uh text and voice messages.
1:43:43
SPEAKER_38: I got a text that rolled in.
1:43:45
SPEAKER_38: It just simply says we need fillback.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_38: What do you say?
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SPEAKER_38: We need a better, a better quality, uh, a better quality foe.
1:43:53
SPEAKER_38: Is that what we're referring to?
1:43:55
SPEAKER_38: Uh Chad from Anoka says, Mildred is so full of it.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_38: She is proof that Democrats have the memory length of a dead goldfish.
1:44:02
SPEAKER_38: Obama acted like a dictator multiple times, including spying on journalists uh he didn't like.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_38: It must suck being that dumb.
1:44:10
SPEAKER_38: Uh somebody else wrote in so that would give Mildred a modicum of credit if the press actually did journalism, but they edit, cut stuff up, and put it back together like it's Frankenstein's monster instead of just giving us the information about what was said in the context and it was and how it was said.
1:44:29
SPEAKER_38: Let us make our own decision.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_38: They use too many adverbs and adjectives and they edit too much.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_38: Well, you're absolutely right.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_38: And we'll have some local examples of this in just a moment here on the show.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_38: When you look at the coverage over the St.
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SPEAKER_24: Hey John.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_24: On the media.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_24: Not to mention they lied to us for years about Joe Biden being top of his game.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_24: Let's go, Brandon.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_24: Hunter Biden's laptop.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_24: They're just full of lies.
1:46:24
SPEAKER_24: Have a great day.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_24: Oh, and COVID too.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_24: Don't forget that.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_24: Have a great day.
1:46:28
SPEAKER_24: I know.
1:46:31
SPEAKER_31: Hey, good morning, John.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_31: This is Vinny.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_31: Are these people really that stupid?
1:46:36
SPEAKER_31: Or they think that Trump is actually banning reporters.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_31: He's not banning reporters.
1:46:42
SPEAKER_31: They can still tell whatever stories they want to.
1:46:45
SPEAKER_31: They are just not allowed to be in the press court.
1:46:49
SPEAKER_31: Plain and simple.
1:46:50
SPEAKER_31: That's it.
1:46:50
SPEAKER_31: They can still tell whatever story they want.
1:46:54
SPEAKER_38: I'll tell you what.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_38: When it comes to moves like this, you know, it's always not always, but it's looked at so often from the standpoint of how those on the left are responding.
1:47:04
SPEAKER_38: But let's look at this from the other angle.
1:47:06
SPEAKER_38: I'll tell you what, this is motivating.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_38: I think this is motivating for individuals.
1:47:13
SPEAKER_38: It could let me rephrase this.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_38: It could be motivating for Trump supporters.
1:47:19
SPEAKER_38: It could be motivating for individuals who support the presidency looking towards the midterms to see the president continue to go and stand up for himself.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_38: One other angle on this, so we'll get back to more of your your comments.
1:47:32
SPEAKER_38: I do want to get into these uh into this local these local stories.
1:47:36
SPEAKER_38: But um, you know, uh another aspect of this is okay, if he doesn't do this, then you don't get the examples, you don't have the conversation that we're having right now.
1:47:49
SPEAKER_38: By Trump doing this, by rankling those on the left, by individuals who want to go and call him a dictator now, he's brought attention to the matter.
1:47:56
SPEAKER_38: And he's brought receipts, as I was playing for you earlier, laying out why he has banned these particular media outlets from the White House.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_12: We'll be suing these people too.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_12: But uh the ban is because they are fake news, they cannot write the truth, and politico is very bad.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_12: And politico, frankly, I think what they did was illegal.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_12: They accepted a uh the world's largest subscription.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_12: They got eight million dollars or something like that for a subscription to their stupid uh you know lightweight paper.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_12: But I I will say, Politico and MS now, which nobody ever heard of, and CNN, which is doing very poorly.
1:48:40
SPEAKER_12: The reason they do so poorly is because they have no credibility.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_12: And if they had credibility, I wouldn't be sitting here right now.
1:48:47
SPEAKER_12: So we are banning them, yes, we are, and then maybe others have followed.
1:48:50
SPEAKER_12: Thank you very much, everybody.
1:49:04
SPEAKER_17: That is not behaving.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_17: I had to tell them to leave in a very forceful manner, and we simply don't get to let them sit there and act like they act.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_17: So what Trump is doing is essentially telling these patrons to get the hell out of the bar because you're not behaving.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_17: Simple stuff, and he has the right to do it, and these whiners need to just shut up.
1:49:29
SPEAKER_38: ScottCon 5 also understands why he talks loudly.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_38: If he's working as a bartender in a bar and the music's loud, he's probably yelling quite a bit.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_38: Producer Devin agrees.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_38: St.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_38: Paul Mayor cooley her.
1:49:43
SPEAKER_38: The investigation is in.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_38: I was completely wrong on this, by the way.
1:49:48
SPEAKER_38: Well, okay, I'm gonna take half credit.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_38: The Freedom Friday crew was right on a couple of a couple of aspects of this.
1:49:56
SPEAKER_38: So let me start off uh with the KSTP headline version.
1:49:59
SPEAKER_38: We'll get Back to more of your uh your comments as they roll in in just a moment here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_38: Uh mayor her investigation actions were offensive and inappropriate, but not sexual harassment.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_38: First off, is that even possible?
1:50:18
SPEAKER_38: They were offensive, they were inappropriate, but they weren't sexual harassment, even though the allegations were about that which involved the act of sex.
1:50:35
SPEAKER_38: Does it make it make sense?
1:50:36
SPEAKER_38: The summary on this was the City of St.
1:50:39
SPEAKER_38: Paul's investigation into Mayor Cooley Her's conduct found her actions to be offensive and inappropriate, but not sexual harassment.
1:50:44
SPEAKER_38: The investigation determined her engaged in offensive behavior, created an uncomfortable work environment, violated workpla uh workplace conduct policy, but as a result, she is only going to be required to comply with city policies, maintain professional boundaries, and attend to training and retain an executive coach.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_38: They're trying to have it both ways.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_38: So we were right on Friday.
1:51:11
SPEAKER_38: This was a Friday news dump.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_38: I think it was Max Reimer that had mentioned it.
1:51:14
SPEAKER_38: When we talked about it Friday, they said that the investigation had concluded, but uh the police chief who brought forward the allegations in the first place was not informed of what the results were.
1:51:28
SPEAKER_38: And so we mentioned on Friday, okay, this is probably not going to go in her favor, and so they're dumping this on a Friday.
1:51:34
SPEAKER_38: Well, we were right.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_38: But it kind of went both ways.
1:51:38
SPEAKER_38: They said she acted inappropriately, but it didn't rise to any sort of misconduct.
1:51:44
SPEAKER_38: This headline from the Star Tribune, though, I just absolutely uh uh classic.
1:51:52
SPEAKER_38: St.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_38: Paul Mayor Cooley Hur's leadership style is intense, personal, and often tests boundaries.
1:52:08
SPEAKER_38: Sure, she can be offensive, sure she can be inappropriate, but you know what?
1:52:13
SPEAKER_38: She's a she's a trendsetter.
1:52:15
SPEAKER_38: She's just pushing boundaries.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_38: You cannot you cannot make this up if you try.
1:52:22
SPEAKER_38: This is what we're talking about.
1:52:24
SPEAKER_38: This is what our media has become.
1:52:27
SPEAKER_38: I need to find the clip.
1:52:29
SPEAKER_38: There's a montage that I played years ago, and it was back when I was growing up, 80s, early 90s, pre-internet.
1:52:37
SPEAKER_38: So really early 90s, late 80s.
1:52:40
SPEAKER_38: And it was a montage of how media outlets used to do reporting, and they would call out every side of an issue and let you, the viewer, decide for yourself without any sort of bias whatsoever.
1:52:51
SPEAKER_38: We have moved away from that.
1:52:54
SPEAKER_38: It's an understatement to say we have moved away from that.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_38: You know, now you have media outlets that are competing with every single source of information, every other outlet that's out there.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_38: And why do you think the Star Tribune has an empty building that they were going to turn into a data center until it was voted down?
1:53:11
SPEAKER_38: Now it'll just sit there empty, probably move in for squatters and drug abusers and get graffitied on the outside within a matter of months.
1:53:20
SPEAKER_38: All right, I'll get back to more of this investigation here in just a moment.
1:53:23
SPEAKER_38: Let's get back to some of your thoughts.
1:53:25
SPEAKER_26: Hey, good morning, John.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_26: I'm sure Mildred probably has a subscription to the Minneapolis, you know, Stark Review and the most fake news of all fake newspapers.
1:53:35
SPEAKER_26: So Mildred, just stuff it.
1:53:40
SPEAKER_18: Hey, good morning, John.
1:53:41
SPEAKER_18: Bruce and Shrape.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_18: You know, I'm just wondering if we just got that Smith Munt Act back to its original intent that uh Obama changed to allow the media to lie and to uh spread propaganda.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_18: Um I'm just wondering if that wouldn't solve a lot of this these issues.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_18: Um I don't know if Obama did it on his own, but I think he had some help in Congress.
1:54:09
SPEAKER_18: And I think they need to revise that back to the original intent.
1:54:14
SPEAKER_38: Anyway, have a good day.
1:54:16
SPEAKER_38: Thank you, Bruce.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_38: On Friday, Cooley Her revealed the findings in a statement saying that she was gratified that the report.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_38: You know, when Cooley Her says a word, uh uses a word like gratified, it could mean pretty much anything.
1:54:32
SPEAKER_38: So glad she was being clear on that.
1:54:34
SPEAKER_38: Uh, found the allegations of sexual harassment and retaliation unsubstantiated.
1:54:40
SPEAKER_38: Uh, kind of.
1:54:41
SPEAKER_38: Except not really.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_38: As the other headlines had noted, not the KSTP one, not the strib, where basically she says that she's a trailblazer.
1:54:51
SPEAKER_38: She uses her uh sexual innuendos and inappropriate comments to plot a new course for the uh office of mayor in uh St.
1:54:59
SPEAKER_38: Paul.
1:55:00
SPEAKER_38: Uh my words, not theirs, by the way.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_38: Uh her released a letter from the city's HR department with the investigation's findings, which showed she did engage in offensive and inappropriate behavior with city employees, created and shared offensive material, and created an uncomfortable work environment for city employees.
1:55:17
SPEAKER_38: However, the same letter from HR said the investigation did not substantiate the original allegations of sexual harassment of any city employee.
1:55:26
SPEAKER_38: In addition, the investigation did not substantiate the allegations of sending inappropriate text messages to city employees, with the exception of two.
1:55:34
SPEAKER_38: Allegations of making sexual noises while exercising at a city facility, and the allegation of retaliation against a city employee who was also found to be unsubstantiated.
1:55:46
SPEAKER_38: Except for the fact that they said that she did engage in offensive, inappropriate behavior with city employees and created offensive material, but that the allegations of the specificity was unsubstantiated.
1:56:01
SPEAKER_38: Who's on first?
1:56:02
SPEAKER_38: I don't know, third base, make it make sense.
1:56:05
SPEAKER_09: I'm just a lowly employee out of the lower rung at a corporation.
1:56:09
SPEAKER_09: And if I make an off-color sexual type joke that somebody gets overhears and reports me, I can be fired.
1:56:18
SPEAKER_09: But I guess I should get a government job.
1:56:21
SPEAKER_09: I can do anything I want.
1:56:22
SPEAKER_09: Of course.
1:56:23
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, no, you listen, you hit the nail on the head, and this was a comment that I wanted to make.
1:56:28
SPEAKER_38: If her were a him, she he would have been forced out of office.
1:56:35
SPEAKER_38: There's no way if her were a male.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_38: Well, okay.
1:56:40
SPEAKER_38: A male and a Republican?
1:56:41
SPEAKER_38: No, I even think a male for crying out loud.
1:56:43
SPEAKER_38: If it be shush, she had just been a he.
1:56:46
SPEAKER_38: This would have been a and and had the same allegations, this would have gone a completely different way.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_38: There's a video.
1:56:54
SPEAKER_38: I didn't grab the audio.
1:56:55
SPEAKER_38: You're welcome.
1:56:56
SPEAKER_38: I spared you.
1:56:58
SPEAKER_38: Hope Walls, daughter to Dim Walls, put out a brand new social media video.
1:57:04
SPEAKER_38: And she's talking about white privilege, her own white woman privilege, and how when she posts a video, a bunch of people will go and make comments about her looks online, okay?
1:57:18
SPEAKER_38: Or her weight or whatever.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_38: Now, people shouldn't do that.
1:57:21
SPEAKER_38: Okay.
1:57:21
SPEAKER_38: You shouldn't do that.
1:57:23
SPEAKER_38: That being said, this whole idea of privilege, white privilege, any privilege whatsoever, it is such a bogus, bogus argument.
1:57:37
SPEAKER_38: People have all kinds of different privilege for all kinds of different reasons.
1:57:42
SPEAKER_38: To just pick out one or to say that one particular group of individuals, in this case white people, have privilege is to completely dismiss the thousands of variables that go in to every single person's life with the decisions that they make on how to go and live their life, the jobs that they have, the comments that they make to people, all kinds, just all kinds of things.
1:58:06
SPEAKER_38: Specific body parts, hair, social standing, athleticism, you name it.
1:58:14
SPEAKER_38: I mean, the list goes on and on.
1:58:17
SPEAKER_38: But when you have those leftists out there pushing this idea of white privilege, want to push this idea of these narratives, it's all just about power.
1:58:28
SPEAKER_38: It's to strip away and diminish the hard work that somebody has gone and done in order to reach a particular place in life.
1:58:37
SPEAKER_38: It's to strip away the power from that and take it from your, and take it from them.
1:58:42
SPEAKER_38: You see, they're looked at as being a powerful individual.
1:58:44
SPEAKER_38: This person achieved and accomplished something, and there are benefits that go along with that.
1:58:49
SPEAKER_38: If you're not directly aligned with the left, I've said the same commentary regarding Sydney Sweeney.
1:58:54
SPEAKER_38: I didn't think she was going to get a mention today, but she will.
1:58:56
SPEAKER_38: I said exactly the same commentary regarding Sydney Sweeney relating to the sports ad that she did in the nude.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_38: There was power attached to that.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_38: She's not aligned with the leftists, and so they had to go and grab some of that power for themselves.
1:59:10
SPEAKER_38: So they condemn her.
1:59:11
SPEAKER_38: It's completely hypocritical based off of the dozens upon dozens of other female athletes that have posted nude on ads for decades.
1:59:21
SPEAKER_38: And the same thing rings true here.
1:59:23
SPEAKER_38: Hooley Her has DFL minority privilege, and this is why she got a slap on the wrist.
1:59:30
SPEAKER_38: Bottom line.
1:59:32
SPEAKER_38: So Hopewalls can take her whole white girl privilege and stuff it.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_38: Everybody pretty much has a privilege of some sort, different hierarchies, based off of a bunch of different reasons.
1:59:46
SPEAKER_38: To point to any one person and diminish what they have gone and accomplished, or don't hold them accountable in this case, simply because she is the mayor of St.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_38: Paul, she is aligned with the left, and she happens to be a minority woman, that's coolie hers privilege.
2:00:01
SPEAKER_38: And her privilege got her off on this.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_38: So good for her.
2:00:04
SPEAKER_38: I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out that that's the reason why.
2:00:07
SPEAKER_38: It's the double standard.
2:00:10
SPEAKER_21: Okay, John, I don't think you have to look any farther than this uh horny her situation.
2:00:16
SPEAKER_21: If the mayor of St.
2:00:18
SPEAKER_21: Paul was a conservative man, or woman for that matter, and they did what she did, it would be front page news and she would be strung up from the nearest tree without a trial because guilty, guilty, guilty, but because she's a left-leaning Democrat, they run cover.
2:00:38
SPEAKER_21: So there's your uh freedom of the press there, Mildred.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_50: Oh my gosh, son.
2:00:45
SPEAKER_50: You know, hearing this coolie her thing, I work in corporate America have for a long time.
2:00:52
SPEAKER_50: If anyone at any level had the audacity of the behavior of coolie her, they would have been fired, sent out the door.
2:01:02
SPEAKER_50: I don't care if they were conservative or re or Democrat.
2:01:06
SPEAKER_50: They this just is not allowed.
2:01:08
SPEAKER_50: And so the fact that they continue to let her in there leading office, these people are just not serious at all when it comes to Democrats.
2:01:43
SPEAKER_38: Paul Mayor coole her, actions were offensive, actions were inappropriate, but not sexual harassment.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_38: Why?
2:01:51
SPEAKER_38: Because she is a woman, because she is aligned with the DFL, and because she is part of a minority group.
2:01:57
SPEAKER_38: That is the only reason why.
2:02:00
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2:02:01
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2:02:13
SPEAKER_38: We'll get back to more of your comments here in just a moment.
2:02:16
SPEAKER_38: As the Star Tribune writes, St.
2:02:19
SPEAKER_38: Paul Mayor coole her's leadership style is intense, personal, and often tests boundaries.
2:02:25
SPEAKER_38: The mayor built her historic career on close relationships, but her behavior has also blurred workplace lines and made some colleagues uncomfortable.
2:02:38
SPEAKER_38: Talk about rationalizing.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_38: My I know, listen, I've I've said this so many times.
2:02:48
SPEAKER_38: I'm not surprised, but can we can we never not be surprised?
2:02:52
SPEAKER_38: Because the moment that we stop being surprised over this is the moment that we've lost.
2:02:57
SPEAKER_38: Even though it's not shocking to see this type of rationalization, all because of the reasons that I mentioned, we cannot relent ever in pushing back on how ridiculous the double standard is.
2:03:11
SPEAKER_36: Good morning, John.
2:03:12
SPEAKER_36: Mike from Minnetonka.
2:03:14
SPEAKER_36: This horny her stuff is insane.
2:03:17
SPEAKER_36: How is the city of St.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_36: Paul ever going to discipline another person for sexual harassment without getting hammered with a$20 million lawsuit?
2:03:27
SPEAKER_36: Everything she did was the definition of sexual harassment, and they just completely ignore it.
2:03:33
SPEAKER_36: Well, you're not Rachel, thanks.
2:03:43
SPEAKER_38: And we don't have we don't have a plethora of those types of uh judges, unfortunately.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_38: So again, like I said, you're not wrong.
2:03:56
SPEAKER_38: If somebody were to go and act this way, they've got an out based off of this investigation.
2:04:02
SPEAKER_38: But who is going to go and prosecute and hold them accountable?
2:04:06
SPEAKER_32: John grew up in St.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_32: Paul.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_32: I've seen a lot of wacky stuff there.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_32: And yeah, she's a body mouth, flightly perverted mayor, but her policies are even slightly better than Slick Melvin, her predecessor.
2:04:19
SPEAKER_32: She just reminds me of that uncle at Christmas time that throws out a couple of words that makes everybody go, ooh, but they just kind of deal with it.
2:04:26
SPEAKER_32: I don't think her intentions are really all that bad.
2:04:28
SPEAKER_32: I just think she's out of there.
2:04:30
SPEAKER_32: But her policies, well, they're not uh any more outrageous than anybody else who was there, and that's really what bothers me or what I'm concerned about.
2:04:41
SPEAKER_35: Hey John, I'm gonna call you out on something there.
2:04:43
SPEAKER_35: Uh yes, there is a privileged class.
2:04:47
SPEAKER_35: It's existed for forever, and you can see it all the time.
2:04:53
SPEAKER_35: It is called beautiful person privilege, aka hot chick or hot guy privilege.
2:05:00
SPEAKER_35: They get away with crap that nobody else in the world would get away with.
2:05:05
SPEAKER_35: Now you couple that with Democrats or just being Democrat female and oh boy.
2:05:13
SPEAKER_38: I'm not sure how that is calling me out on anything.
2:05:16
SPEAKER_38: Devin, did you I don't have no, I don't know how that's you're not wrong.
2:05:20
SPEAKER_38: I'm just pointing out that there's thousands upon thousands of different types of privileges that people have for all kinds of different reasons.
2:05:27
SPEAKER_38: We typically see it pointed to one specific thing relating to white privilege.
2:05:35
SPEAKER_38: You know, Hopewalls is saying that she had her own white privilege, which puts her in a unique uh situation.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_38: And she's not she's not wrong, but in the same breath, she goes and calls out other individuals and their privilege.
2:05:47
SPEAKER_38: So I'm not sure how that is.
2:05:49
SPEAKER_38: You're you're not wrong.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_38: Listen, I have I have talk show privilege.
2:05:53
SPEAKER_38: I have talk show talk, talk show host privilege.
2:05:56
SPEAKER_38: I do.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_38: I got pulled over a bunch when I was in Tucson, never got a ticket once they found out who I was and my support of law enforcement.
2:06:04
SPEAKER_38: That was my talk show uh privilege.
2:06:06
SPEAKER_38: I'm just it just it's just it's just part of life to go and point to anyone and decry it, right?
2:06:12
SPEAKER_38: And in this case, this is coolie hers privilege.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_38: I'm just pointing it out.
2:06:15
SPEAKER_38: This is her privilege.
2:06:17
SPEAKER_38: People want to go and focus on white privilege, they should also be focusing on this privilege as well because that's what she's getting and why she's being let off the hook.
2:06:25
SPEAKER_38: Privileges in all walks of life.
2:06:26
SPEAKER_38: But you won't hear anybody else go and call this cooley hers privilege.
2:06:30
SPEAKER_38: And that's what I'm doing here uh this morning on the show.
2:06:33
SPEAKER_38: 651-964-0294.
2:06:38
SPEAKER_38: Uh have a uh comment that rolled in.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_38: Uh Cooley Her uh figures the outcome brings a happy ending in her accusations.
2:06:48
SPEAKER_38: Okay.
2:06:49
SPEAKER_38: There you go.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_38: So there, so there you go, there, there you go.
2:06:55
SPEAKER_38: John dot justice at american experiment uh dot org.
2:07:00
SPEAKER_38: Uh speaking of controversies, so cooley her goes, just as an example, right?
2:07:07
SPEAKER_38: Does all these inappropriate offensive behavior.
2:07:10
SPEAKER_38: She um sorry, and a comment that rolled in.
2:07:15
SPEAKER_38: I'm not repeating on the show.
2:07:17
SPEAKER_38: Um so Cooley Her does her inappropriate comments, inappropriate behavior, it's offensive, gets a slap on the wrist, just has to have training, saying it doesn't ride to sexual allegation.
2:07:29
SPEAKER_38: Okay.
2:07:30
SPEAKER_38: In the meantime, Representative Tom Emmer is embroiled in controversy.
2:07:36
SPEAKER_38: When the high-ranking Republican from Minnesota appeared last week on Fox Business, he said that cash-strapped American uh consumers should look to the items whose price tags have gone down since Republicans took control of Congress and highlighted a bad example.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_38: Eggs are at pre-pandemic prices, beef is at less than$2 a pound for ground beef.
2:08:02
SPEAKER_38: Commenters on social media were quick to point out that ground beef costs way more.
2:08:06
SPEAKER_38: Yes, that's right.
2:08:09
SPEAKER_38: Tom Emmer misspoke.
2:08:11
SPEAKER_38: Oh no.
2:08:12
SPEAKER_38: Whatever will we do?
2:08:14
SPEAKER_38: Tom Emmer misspoke about the price of beef.
2:08:19
SPEAKER_38: This is a full, it's a full-blown article.
2:08:22
SPEAKER_38: Multiple locations.
2:08:24
SPEAKER_38: Temmer draws reaction.
2:08:25
SPEAKER_38: Emmer, oh, excuse me, Temer.
2:08:27
SPEAKER_38: I combine the two words.
2:08:29
SPEAKER_38: Tom Emmer draws reaction after claiming ground beef cost less than$2 a pound, according to an article from Bring Me the News.
2:08:37
SPEAKER_38: This was newsworthy.
2:08:38
SPEAKER_38: Cooley Her gets a slap on the wrist, even though the investigation admits that she did offensive and inappropriate comments, but in their mind, even though they were sexual in nature, it was not sexual harassment.
2:08:49
SPEAKER_38: And yet Tom Emmer misspeaks regarding how much a pound of ground beef costs, and he gets multiple news stories off of it.
2:08:57
SPEAKER_38: Okay.
2:09:00
SPEAKER_38: Aaron Rupar, always a good go-to leftist online.
2:09:05
SPEAKER_38: Emmer says Republicans need to talk more about grocery prices that aren't expensive.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_38: And then he goes and posts the prices for actual ground beef.
2:09:14
unknown: Yeah.
2:09:15
SPEAKER_38: He was pretty close when it came to uh the eggs, however.
2:09:18
SPEAKER_38: The U.S.
2:09:19
SPEAKER_38: uh average for a dozen large eggs was$2.27 per carton in August.
2:09:24
SPEAKER_38: That was a buck thirty uh a buck thirty-one cheaper than they were a year ago, and around$4 cheaper than the post-pandemic high.
2:09:31
SPEAKER_38: During the Wednesday interview, Emmerig acknowledged his party needs to do more about the cost of living and continued to answer a question about balancing the GOP's national message and local issues like data centers, inflation, and um housing affordability.
2:09:45
SPEAKER_38: So again, you can't misspeak or conflate or confuse prices if you're a Republican, but you can act sexually inappropriate, and as long as you are a female from a minority group and aligned with uh Democrats, it's all good.
2:10:00
SPEAKER_38: I think this is where we've landed, right?
2:10:05
SPEAKER_38: We'll get back to more of your thoughts here in just a moment.
2:10:08
SPEAKER_38: One more um actually have a couple more women's stories.
2:10:11
SPEAKER_38: This one here, just as a side note, as we turn our attention uh over to Minneapolis.
2:10:19
SPEAKER_38: Uh state health officials are attempting to trace anyone who had contact with a rabid bat that was found on the sidewalk in downtown Minneapolis, including a woman who was seen picking it up and putting it in a bag.
2:10:34
SPEAKER_38: Why?
2:10:37
SPEAKER_38: Why, why, what, what, why did you do that?
2:10:40
SPEAKER_38: The Minnesota Department of Health confirmed that the bat found earlier this week tested positive for rabies and is working with other agencies to trace anyone who may have may have had contact with it.
2:10:50
SPEAKER_38: So she must have brought it to somebody.
2:10:52
SPEAKER_38: I'm assuming that's what happened here, right?
2:10:53
SPEAKER_38: Okay, here we go.
2:10:54
SPEAKER_38: A sign posted in downtown Minneapolis, and who had rabid bats on their bingo card.
2:11:05
SPEAKER_38: A sign posted in downtown Minneapolis, shared by a Twin Cities journalist, Taylor Dolin, reveals that the bat was found on the sidewalk around noon Tuesday on Hennepin Avenue between North Washington Avenue and North Third Street.
2:11:19
SPEAKER_38: The MDH uh notice says that a white woman aged 25 to 30 was observed picking up the bat and uh the bat and putting it in a bag.
2:11:30
SPEAKER_38: She is around five uh five inches, uh five foot five inches tall with curly brown hair and had her curly-haired golden retriever-like dog.
2:11:38
SPEAKER_38: Anyone in contact with the bat should contact MDH.
2:11:42
SPEAKER_38: It's the second confirmed case of rabies this past week in Minnesota after a cow in Brown County on a farm tested positive following its death.
2:11:51
SPEAKER_38: Wait a second, wait a second.
2:11:52
SPEAKER_38: So it doesn't it sounds like they're looking for the woman who put the bat in the bag.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_38: So how did they know that?
2:12:00
SPEAKER_38: It tested positive for rabies.
2:12:06
SPEAKER_38: So it says the bat was later.
2:12:08
SPEAKER_38: Okay, so she put it in the bag and then she left it someplace else because it says here that the bat was later found dead.
2:12:16
SPEAKER_38: Subsequently, I am so confused over this.
2:12:19
SPEAKER_38: So that's what it sounds like.
2:12:20
SPEAKER_38: It sounds like the woman picked up the bat.
2:12:22
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, the bat.
2:12:24
SPEAKER_38: Put it in a bag and then dumped it someplace else, and then they tested it for rabies.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_38: So help me out.
2:12:30
SPEAKER_38: Am I missing something here?
2:12:31
SPEAKER_38: Somebody uh wrote it was Ozzy reincarnated.
2:12:38
SPEAKER_38: All right, let's get back to some of your thoughts.
2:12:40
SPEAKER_38: Maybe you can uh help me out on uh uh this one.
2:12:44
SPEAKER_38: 651-964-0294.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_15: Uh, let's go here.
2:12:51
SPEAKER_15: Good morning, John Rich here.
2:12:53
SPEAKER_15: So when the Democrats talk about Tom Emmer misspeaking and, you know, the cost of living or the economy being so poorly, well, I just look back and look at my taxes, a 14% increase for 2026 and 14% in 2025.
2:13:11
SPEAKER_15: So that's 28% of my property tax in the state of Minnesota ran only by Democrats.
2:13:18
SPEAKER_15: You know, and now we gotta pay all that extra fuel for all those black helicopters that Trump has sent up to Bemidji.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_38: Uh, thanks as always for the comment, uh, Rich.
2:13:29
SPEAKER_38: I appreciate it.
2:13:29
SPEAKER_38: Have a text that rolled in regarding the woman who picked up a rabid bat in downtown Minneapolis, health officials trying to find her.
2:13:36
SPEAKER_38: Again, the bat later found dead and subsequently tested positive for rabies.
2:13:40
SPEAKER_38: There's a there's a gap in the story here.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_38: I that's what.
2:13:43
SPEAKER_38: So, yeah, again, so she picked it up, found it, and then okay.
2:13:46
SPEAKER_38: Somebody wrote in, uh, don't you have to get bitten to get rabies?
2:13:51
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, how does that work?
2:13:54
SPEAKER_38: Like, is it rabies before you bite somebody and they get rabies if they already have rabies?
2:14:03
SPEAKER_38: Hey, tell me that I have no idea.
2:14:05
SPEAKER_38: Let me show you how I have no idea what I'm talking about without uh telling you that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
2:14:10
SPEAKER_38: And I give you my attempts to go and navigate this uh story.
2:14:14
SPEAKER_38: We'll get to your thoughts coming up in just a moment.
2:14:16
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2:14:23
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2:14:26
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2:14:29
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SPEAKER_58: Hi, I'm Joe Scott, and I'm the only conservative on the Eastern Carver County School's board.
2:16:34
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2:16:47
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2:17:10
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2:17:31
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2:17:37
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2:17:51
SPEAKER_38: I almost grabbed it.
2:17:53
SPEAKER_38: I did.
2:17:53
SPEAKER_38: I almost grabbed it from the office.
2:17:55
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2:18:00
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2:18:02
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2:18:04
SPEAKER_38: So he just tells me I should have gone with my gut.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_38: So I'm not even going to attempt to try to pronounce this Indian uh national's name.
2:18:15
SPEAKER_38: The last name is uh Chowdhari, so we'll just go with that.
2:18:18
SPEAKER_38: Uh Chowdhari.
2:18:20
SPEAKER_38: Indicted for making false claims of U.S.'s citizenship to vote in the 2024 election.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_38: He allegedly received a voter registration notice after obtaining a driver's license and filled it out.
2:18:31
SPEAKER_38: The DOJ announced this indictment by federal grand jury with two counts related to ineligible voting.
2:18:39
SPEAKER_38: The incident occurred in Fillmore County, given the sequence of events we have to assume, writes Bill Glon at Center of the American Experiment, that his uh vote was counted in the 2024 general election.
2:18:52
SPEAKER_38: Fox Nine reported on the original charges back in April, but now has been formally indicted, and he has now been formally indicted in the case.
2:19:00
SPEAKER_38: Back in April, it says that uh Chowdhari allegedly told investigators he received a voter registration notice from the state of Minnesota and filled it out.
2:19:08
SPEAKER_38: Court documents indicate the notice was likely caused by the Minnesota system sending him voting information after he obtained a driver's license.
2:19:15
SPEAKER_38: That thing, as he says, that never happens, uh, happened, and we were told wasn't going to happen regarding how individuals are given registers uh to vote when they go and apply for a license.
2:19:28
SPEAKER_38: Uh, he is scheduled to make his first court appearance on the indictment on the uh 25th.
2:19:32
SPEAKER_38: Uh, with that, we'll keep with the fraud, uh, with the fraud theme uh this morning here on the show.
2:19:38
SPEAKER_38: Hennepin County has not turned over the potentially fraudulent business grant to applications to the sheriff's office for investigation, despite requesting the documents in July.
2:19:51
SPEAKER_38: Of the 300 applications, only 82 were confirmed eligible, leading to the program's uh termination.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_38: So we had a um we had a friend of the show who left a comment last week regarding this.
2:20:07
SPEAKER_38: And the listener was asked if anybody would be held criminally liable for the potential fraud that they were trying to commit within these grant programs.
2:20:21
SPEAKER_38: And I had mentioned that, you know, I wasn't sure what level of what level it would rise to criminality.
2:20:29
SPEAKER_38: Like, what would you have to do for it to be a criminal act?
2:20:35
SPEAKER_38: Like trying to go and commit fraud, but being stopped short, therein lies the lies the question.
2:20:40
SPEAKER_38: Well, and to that point, Hennepin County has yet to go and turn over the fraudulent small business grant applications to even go and find out whether or not these rise to the level of criminality.
2:20:54
SPEAKER_38: We had a friend of the show, lawyer James Dickey, left a comment last week saying when I asked this question that, yeah, this is an incredibly uh difficult thing in order to go and track, to hold somebody accountable for this.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_38: So let's go here.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_38: I have audio from last week from KSTP because I do have an update on this.
2:21:12
SPEAKER_38: Another piece from Bill Glaun.
2:21:13
SPEAKER_38: Frosters have no fear.
2:21:15
SPEAKER_38: Something we've discussed a bunch on the show.
2:21:18
SPEAKER_38: Minnesota faces the significant prop uh fraud problem.
2:21:21
SPEAKER_38: 82 of 300 applicants for the anti-ICE aid deemed non-fraudulent.
2:21:26
SPEAKER_38: Despite efforts to tough uh to toughen the sentencing guidelines for fraud, many cases still results in probation rather than prison sentences.
2:21:35
SPEAKER_38: Even when convicted, the fraudsters often retain their ill-gotten gains, as seen in a case where the Medicaid fraudster kept corporate funds despite a felony conviction.
2:21:46
SPEAKER_38: I'll give you details on this in just a moment, but first let me play for you a bit of the coverage from uh KSTP uh Channel 5 regarding the uh fraud issue here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
2:21:59
SPEAKER_41: We're tracking your tax dollars tonight.
2:22:01
SPEAKER_41: Hennepin County says some fraudulent applications plagued its small business recovery program before they shut it down.
2:22:09
SPEAKER_41: Those public dollars were meant to help offset business losses during Operation Metro Surge.
2:22:14
SPEAKER_41: Renee Cooper is looking for answers about what happened and asked what it means for future programs given from Cooper.
2:22:22
SPEAKER_41: Renee.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_42: The county does say there's some successes in this recovery fund.
2:22:38
SPEAKER_42: No taxpayer money actually went out to fraudsters, and some businesses that help staying afloat.
2:22:44
SPEAKER_42: This is gonna be a recovery.
2:22:46
SPEAKER_42: Michaela Ekber says a few thousand dollars helps keep her from losing the massage business she built over years.
2:22:53
SPEAKER_42: 3,000 doesn't sound like a lot, but it was a lot.
2:22:56
SPEAKER_42: At a time where financial choices included keeping the lights on here or rent at home.
2:23:01
SPEAKER_42: So it helped keep you going.
2:23:03
SPEAKER_42: It did, it kept me open, and we're good now.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_42: Epberr, one of 82 businesses helped, but Hennepin County got around 300 applications in all, and they're shutting the two million dollar program down after giving out just 500,000.
2:23:18
SPEAKER_42: Commissioner Jeffrey Lundy says the county and a nonprofit helping review grant applications found a significant number with red flags for fraud.
2:23:28
SPEAKER_13: As we dug deeper in, we started to see patterns.
2:23:31
SPEAKER_13: And those patterns were not, they were fraudulent patterns.
2:23:33
SPEAKER_13: And that's where we decided that diminishing returns, it was time to kind of cut our losses, so to speak.
2:23:40
SPEAKER_42: Because of the resources it was taking to weed out what does this experience mean for the future of grant programs in Hennepin County and whether there needs to be more oversight on that front end.
2:23:52
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, I definitely think we will definitely be looking at what was successful and then make it a standard.
2:23:57
SPEAKER_13: It wasn't standard operating in this grant for them do in-person visits for everything and that level of scrutiny.
2:24:03
SPEAKER_42: Lundy says they're also looking at asking lawmakers if state law needs tweaked to ensure even attempting fraud is penalized.
2:24:11
SPEAKER_13: If there's no penalties for trying, they're gonna keep trying.
2:24:14
SPEAKER_23: If you do not need it in any way, why are you applying for it?
2:24:18
SPEAKER_23: Find your own way to make your money like everyone else has.
2:25:11
SPEAKER_28: Come on, give me a break.
2:25:13
SPEAKER_38: Why do you think there's so so um so much of a focus on just using the terminology systemic when it comes to that which the leftists push to go and criticize the right?
2:25:27
SPEAKER_38: It's because there are systemic issues that we're faced with.
2:25:30
SPEAKER_38: They're just not the ones that the left goes and portrays.
2:25:34
SPEAKER_38: That's a really good point that the blast just made.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_38: And that is these these items are all interconnected.
2:25:43
SPEAKER_38: We're all talking about the ineptitude of government, of those on the left, of the administration under Governor Jim Walls.
2:25:55
SPEAKER_38: So to think that when it comes to the fraud, that we're not gonna have issues relating to corruption and illegality and other forms like voting would be incredibly naive.
2:26:08
SPEAKER_38: I had an email that came in over the weekend, and somebody who was frustrated uh with my with my take regarding, and we talked about this uh earlier in the show, but regarding election election fraud.
2:26:20
SPEAKER_38: Um they were uh extrapolating that I didn't believe that election fraud was a was a thing, and that I was downplaying it.
2:26:28
SPEAKER_38: And nothing could be further from the truth.
2:26:30
SPEAKER_38: Election fraud does take place.
2:26:32
SPEAKER_38: We have examples of that time and time again.
2:26:35
SPEAKER_38: What I don't align with and what I don't promote is this idea that every single time a Republican loses a race, it's because of fraud.
2:26:47
SPEAKER_38: The difficulty in examining the cheating and the fraud within our elections is determining whether or not it rose to a level where it could have gone and overturned an election.
2:26:59
SPEAKER_38: Now, with some of the close races that we've had here in Minnesota, it could be the case when you're looking at a handful of, you know, a couple of hundred votes.
2:27:06
SPEAKER_38: It certainly could.
2:27:07
SPEAKER_38: But we've yet to see the evidence of that.
2:27:10
SPEAKER_38: You have anecdotal evidence on election nights, presidential elections, where you have these late night ballot drops and the numbers spike a certain way, but there's also rational explanations to that as well.
2:27:21
SPEAKER_38: Could there be fraud or cheating taking place in that?
2:27:24
SPEAKER_38: Of course.
2:27:25
SPEAKER_38: But in the absence of actually getting to the evidence necessary to substantiate those claims, it's still just speculation, informed speculation, but it's speculation.
2:27:36
SPEAKER_38: And there's just as much evidence to say that this is a larger issue relating to ballot harvesting than it is any sort of fraud that's going and taking place.
2:27:48
SPEAKER_38: And I even saw over the weekend there was a Rasmussen report talking with an alleged whistleblower, and I'm curious to see if this ends up getting more attention this week.
2:28:00
SPEAKER_38: But there was an allegation that individuals said that they were tasked with cheating in the Biden Trump presidential election.
2:28:13
SPEAKER_38: But it wasn't in the way that everybody said.
2:28:14
SPEAKER_38: They were actually shaving votes away in strong red uh districts across the country and not spiking in Democrat votes in blue bastions of the country.
2:28:30
SPEAKER_38: Because that's always been the argument.
2:28:32
SPEAKER_38: They were claiming that no, we actually basically threw away votes, shade votes in staunchly red conservative areas.
2:28:41
SPEAKER_38: I only say all this to sort of set the premise up here, going back to the previous blast comments about, yeah, we could have a systemic problem.
2:28:50
SPEAKER_38: We do have a systemic problem regarding fraud.
2:28:53
SPEAKER_38: It's just whether it rises to the to the level where it actually goes and impacts an election.
2:28:59
SPEAKER_38: One individual committing an act of election fraud is too much, and we should put those safeguards in.
2:29:05
SPEAKER_38: And just to put a period on the comment from the listener, and I emailed them back and I informed, I said, listen, I'm concerned about election fraud just like you are.
2:29:13
SPEAKER_38: I don't make it a focal point on the show because there's nothing that I personally can do about it.
2:29:18
SPEAKER_38: If you are an individual who is concerned about fraud, regardless of what political party you belong to, if you want to do something about it, then the party you're more than likely going to vote for is going to be Republicans because Democrats are not going to shore up our election integrity in any way, shape, or form.
2:29:38
SPEAKER_38: It's not going to, it's not going to happen.
2:29:40
SPEAKER_38: I don't focus and talk about it on the show because it's not a conversation that's going to spark any sort of debate here on the show.
2:29:49
SPEAKER_38: It doesn't really go anywhere.
2:29:50
SPEAKER_38: To simply get angry and mad about the fraud taking place potentially within our elections, it kind of just stops there.
2:29:56
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, I'm angry about it.
2:29:57
SPEAKER_38: What else would you like me to do?
2:30:00
SPEAKER_38: Ultimately, I think that's what the listener was having a hard time with.
2:30:03
SPEAKER_38: They wanted me to be more angry about the fraud.
2:30:07
SPEAKER_38: And there are those individuals out there that if you try to be rational and use common sense regarding cheating and election fraud, they immediately default to you don't care about fraud and say it's not happening.
2:30:17
SPEAKER_38: And it couldn't be further from the truth.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_38: Fraud, however, definitely was trying to happen in this grant program.
2:30:23
SPEAKER_38: Minnesota continues to make headlines for its refusal to stop the fraud.
2:30:27
SPEAKER_38: Fox News writes regarding this story: the Minnesota Anti-ICE Fund, latest casualty of the 82 of 300 applications, only those could be cleared.
2:30:37
SPEAKER_38: John Phelan wrote about this, policy fellow here at American Experiment.
2:30:42
SPEAKER_38: Only$500,000 of the plan$2 million was actually distributed because so few applicants appeared to be legitimate.
2:30:50
SPEAKER_38: As Bill Glaun writes in the headline, he's absolutely correct.
2:30:53
SPEAKER_38: The fraudsters have no fear.
2:30:58
SPEAKER_38: Hennepin County Commissioner Jeff Lunn said that the fact that people, after all this fraud, felt that they could apply and get away with it.
2:31:07
SPEAKER_38: I think the problem is because clearly there's no fear out there.
2:31:11
SPEAKER_38: Well, how many people are paying attention to?
2:31:15
SPEAKER_38: That should probably get talked about more often.
2:31:18
SPEAKER_38: I've mentioned it on the show, but again, I'm speaking to the individuals who listen to the show, who watch the show.
2:31:25
SPEAKER_38: I need to speak to and reach the individuals who are not doing that because not everybody follows this stuff.
2:31:31
SPEAKER_38: A lot of people are locked in their own bubbles.
2:31:33
SPEAKER_38: Their algorithms are feeding them, you know, red panda videos and memes, or is that just my algorithm?
2:31:41
SPEAKER_38: I love red pandas, can I just tell you?
2:31:45
SPEAKER_38: I had red pandas become my favorite animal ever late in life.
2:31:50
SPEAKER_38: I didn't really have a favorite animal in the past.
2:31:52
SPEAKER_38: So red pandas became a late 11.
2:31:54
SPEAKER_38: Anyway, people don't follow it.
2:31:56
SPEAKER_38: So how many individuals out there that are continuing to commit these acts of fraud aren't even aware that there's massive investigations going and rampant fraud taking place?
2:32:04
SPEAKER_38: It's a question.
2:32:05
SPEAKER_38: Lund is the sole Republican member of the county board, by the way.
2:32:08
SPEAKER_38: Commissioner Lund is correct.
2:32:09
SPEAKER_38: Fraudsters do not fear any level of government.
2:32:12
SPEAKER_38: And I believe and I agree with that too, even those that find out about it as well.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_38: In those rare instances where they are caught, the usual result is that they keep the money while serving ashore to probation sentence.
2:32:24
SPEAKER_38: Of the latest can't uh scandal, KSTP and WI uh D I O ABC out of Duluth reported Hennepin County Sheriff's Office lacks the records to start small business grant fraud investigation, as we were talking about before.
2:32:40
SPEAKER_38: After the staff reported the fraudulent applications for a small business recovery fund, they asked the sheriffs to investigate.
2:32:46
SPEAKER_38: In July, the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office requested the documents they needed to open the investigation.
2:32:51
SPEAKER_38: But as of mid-September, those documents had yet to be shared.
2:32:55
SPEAKER_38: What are you trying to hide?
2:32:58
SPEAKER_38: In Minnesota, the sentencing guidelines, why fraud cases rarely lead to prison.
2:33:07
SPEAKER_38: KSTP reports.
2:33:09
SPEAKER_38: The grid, as it's known to judges, prosecutors, and defense attorneys, ranks crimes from most severe to least, and then assigns each defendant a score depending on their criminal history.
2:33:25
SPEAKER_38: The box they fall into on that grid shows a recommended sentence in months and a range judges can sentence within.
2:33:34
SPEAKER_38: For most violent crimes, the recommended sentence falls above the key threshold on the grid, making prison unlikely.
2:33:43
SPEAKER_38: But many nonviolent offenses like fraud often land defendants in a shaded part of the grid, which generally the recommendation and the sentence ends up being probation.
2:33:57
SPEAKER_38: Adding, as Minnesota grapples with Investigations into complex fraud schemes, the state is taking steps to toughen the punishment against people who steal millions of dollars from public assistance programs.
2:34:10
SPEAKER_38: Bill Glong goes on to write: the only thing that will truly strike fear into the heart of fraudsters would be actual experienced consequences.
2:34:20
SPEAKER_38: Yes, feud fraudsters prosecuted at the federal level are now serving a multi-decade prison sentence, but I have yet to hear of a bankruptcy of a bankruptcy of a convicted fraudster.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_38: They've been allowed to keep their homes and other fruits of their malfeasance.
2:34:39
SPEAKER_38: And on this point, Medicaid fraudster's corporate bank account off limits, according to a judge.
2:34:46
SPEAKER_38: This goes back to my previous commentary early in the show, talking about just the waste of space of so many of our uh of our judges.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_38: Hennepin County District Court judge Mark Kappelhoff rejected efforts by state prosecutors to seize more than 650,000 from a corporate account belonging to a convicted Medicaid fraudster.
2:35:10
SPEAKER_38: The judge denied the request, ruling that the state statute only allows the seizure of funds to pay restitution if the account holder is convicted of a felony.
2:35:24
SPEAKER_38: He said funds cannot be taken from a corporate account because this particular company and the fraudster that the fraudster owns was never charged or convicted in the fraud scheme.
2:35:33
SPEAKER_38: To be clear, Ahmed Noor was convicted of a felony.
2:35:37
SPEAKER_38: But Noor's company was not convicted.
2:35:42
SPEAKER_38: That's convenient.
2:35:44
SPEAKER_38: So Noor, the human man, gets to keep all the corporate money.
2:35:48
SPEAKER_38: Bill Glon wraps the piece saying, crime pays and it's extremely lucrative as well.
2:35:55
SPEAKER_38: He is not wrong.
2:35:57
SPEAKER_38: I want to get to an item regarding Hedemp County attorney Mary Moriarty because she is trying to burn it all down before she leaves office.
2:36:06
SPEAKER_38: She even ended up sparking the ire of the two individuals who typically align with her and her social justice zealotry over one of her recent moves.
2:36:18
SPEAKER_38: I'll share this with you in just a moment here on the John Justice Show.
2:36:21
SPEAKER_38: Again, continue to bring your comments in to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
2:36:29
SPEAKER_38: Let's go here.
2:36:30
SPEAKER_49: Good morning, John.
2:36:31
SPEAKER_49: One thing that you can do to help with the election fraud is to encourage people to go out and get involved, be poll watchers, be uh election judges, and do everything you can to make sure that red votes don't get tossed, um, that only eligible voters are voting, um, just whatever people can do, because the more that we have out there working in these sites that actually care about election fraud, the better chances we have to at least prevent some of it.
2:37:12
SPEAKER_49: Thank you.
2:37:13
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, and listen, that rings true regardless of what party that you follow.
2:37:17
SPEAKER_38: Right?
2:37:18
SPEAKER_38: There are plenty of those on the left that want to talk about you know Republicans gaming the system or committing their own acts of fraud when Republicans go and win elections.
2:37:27
SPEAKER_38: So that's great advice, regardless of whether or not you're a friend or foe of the show.
2:37:34
SPEAKER_38: Speaking of fraud and the elections, an exclusive to Alpha News, a former therapist slams the fraudulent autism centers in Minnesota, including one run by a friend of Lieutenant Governor and Senate candidate Peggy Flanagan.
2:37:52
SPEAKER_38: I'll give you details on that in just a moment here on The John Justice Show.
2:39:05
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2:39:12
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2:39:15
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2:40:02
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, John, what do you have to say about all these bloggers that say, why bother voting?
2:40:10
SPEAKER_20: It's it's already been chosen.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_20: And it's been chosen by people that are higher than the president.
2:40:17
SPEAKER_20: The Rothschilds, the oil people.
2:40:23
SPEAKER_20: Will you put any uh credence into that?
2:40:27
SPEAKER_38: Um no, I don't put a lot of credence into that.
2:40:30
SPEAKER_38: But even if I did, let me take this angle instead.
2:40:32
SPEAKER_38: Even if I did put credence uh into it, what are you going to do?
2:40:37
SPEAKER_38: I mean, regardless of which party you belong to, if you're making that decision to sit out and not vote, you're just listening you can't comment on anything that's going on in the world.
2:40:47
SPEAKER_38: That's just my view.
2:40:49
SPEAKER_38: You decide that you're not going to get engaged and get involved.
2:40:52
SPEAKER_38: And certainly if you decide that you're not going to go and vote, you only have your uh you only have yourself to blame in the end.
2:41:00
SPEAKER_38: And this kind of goes back to just to wrap up my my uh my commentary a moment ago regarding the the fraud issue.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_38: Again, this is why and cheating in elections.
2:41:10
SPEAKER_38: That's why I don't spend a ton of time on the time on it here on the show, because kind of like not wanting to get a good night's sleep.
2:41:18
SPEAKER_38: I nobody, well, I say that and I'm gonna step in it, but nobody wants the opposition party to cheat.
2:41:28
SPEAKER_38: Let me go that route.
2:41:30
SPEAKER_38: Let me make sure I word those.
2:41:32
SPEAKER_38: To say that nobody wants to cheat would be a lie, because that's how cheating takes place.
2:41:35
SPEAKER_38: Nobody wants the other side to go and cheat, right?
2:41:39
SPEAKER_38: To have a discussion and to be mad about cheating and election fraud, it's pointless.
2:41:44
SPEAKER_38: It used to be pointless like it was to have conversations about abortion, but that issue's that issue's gotten bigger and more complex over the years, wherein before I used to have a stance of never talking about that issue, and you just simply can't do it anymore with a way that that has been uh more overtly politicized than it ever has uh in the past.
2:42:03
SPEAKER_38: But uh either way, I thank you for the comment this morning to the blaster line at 651 at 964-0294.
2:42:10
SPEAKER_38: So have you seen the somewhat famous photo now?
2:42:13
SPEAKER_38: It's usually included with a montage of photos of Senate candidate, Lieutenant Governor Um Peggy Flanagan pandering to different groups, you know, pandering to the LGBTQ community where she does her, she ends up looking like a clown.
2:42:31
SPEAKER_38: In this case, I'm talking about the picture where she is with uh two Somali individuals and she has the full headgear on.
2:42:42
SPEAKER_38: It couldn't be more of a pander if you tried.
2:42:44
SPEAKER_38: Peggy Flanagan said that she's been friends for almost 25 years with Nimco Ahmed.
2:42:51
SPEAKER_38: Now, DHS confirms an autism center operated by Ahmed is under investigation as a former employee of the center accuses it of being fraudulent.
2:43:04
SPEAKER_38: Now, Ahmed denied the allegations and told Alpha News that even asking questions about the care at her autism center is bias.
2:43:15
SPEAKER_38: Of course, she's gonna make that comment.
2:43:16
SPEAKER_38: You can't even question it.
2:43:18
SPEAKER_38: That is just your typical leftist tactic.
2:43:21
SPEAKER_38: For you to even question it means that you are clearly a racist.
2:43:27
SPEAKER_38: Uh, to this point, I have some audio to share.
2:43:29
SPEAKER_38: This exclusive to uh Alpha News.
2:43:32
SPEAKER_38: Grant Morgan, a former therapist in the Minnesota Autism Program, had a chance to talk with Liz Collin from Alpha News.
2:43:39
SPEAKER_38: Here's a uh brief portion of that conversation.
2:43:41
SPEAKER_48: What was your first thought when you saw this video of Nimco Ahmed and Peggy Flanagan standing together there at Carmel Mall, Grant?
2:43:49
SPEAKER_56: I was shocked to see that video because I knew uh Nimco.
2:43:52
SPEAKER_56: I worked for her for two months.
2:43:54
SPEAKER_56: And she seemed, she did not seem like someone that someone on the political stage should associate with.
2:43:59
SPEAKER_56: She seemed like a bad person.
2:44:01
SPEAKER_56: She did not seem like she cared about the quality of the autism center that she owned.
2:44:06
SPEAKER_56: She did not seem like she knew anything about applied behavior analysis as an autism intervention.
2:44:11
SPEAKER_56: She didn't seem to even have an interest in the field.
2:44:15
SPEAKER_56: And I also have a political science background, and I'll say that it's not both of the debates between Peggy and Andy Craig, and it also stopped both conventional oversight hearings.
2:44:25
SPEAKER_56: I think it's very likely that Peggy was intentionally trying to help out bad actors.
2:44:32
SPEAKER_56: And I'll even say I think there's a chance that she was directly involved in the fraud herself.
2:44:38
SPEAKER_56: I think that is very possible.
2:44:41
SPEAKER_38: If you want to, uh and I would encourage you to do so, if you want uh to go and hear the rest of that interview, head on over to AmericaneExperiment.org.
2:44:50
SPEAKER_38: It is definitely worth a uh worth a listen.
2:44:55
SPEAKER_38: And you wonder why the uh polls are all uh tied up the way that they uh the way that they are.
2:45:00
SPEAKER_38: There was some anecdotal evidence over the weekend.
2:45:02
SPEAKER_38: There was a sporting uh one of the sporting events, because there was a lot of events going on locally.
2:45:06
SPEAKER_38: And there was an ad that popped up in one of the venues with Peggy Flanagan, and I guess it elicited Oh no, no, no, I know what it was.
2:45:13
SPEAKER_38: I'm getting this wrong.
2:45:15
SPEAKER_38: Individuals were watching, um, I think what they were watching uh a Vikings game, and an ad popped on the TV in the bar that they were watching at, and apparently it was met with a collection of boos from the patrons of the establishment.
2:45:28
SPEAKER_51: Morning, John.
2:45:29
SPEAKER_51: Holly from Blaine.
2:45:30
SPEAKER_51: Um, kind of sneaking this to the end of the show, but just with all this, you know, voter fraud, um, election concerns, people crying and being mad about how they're just so upset they're not even gonna vote.
2:45:43
SPEAKER_51: Um, and to your point about they only have themselves to blame.
2:45:46
SPEAKER_51: People that are gonna choose to sit out this time and vote because they are angry at Trump or whatever are being selfish.
2:45:53
SPEAKER_51: They only care about themselves.
2:45:55
SPEAKER_51: They do not have any regard for the country or this state and the rest of us, and they are just willing to let the future go.
2:46:03
SPEAKER_51: So don't be selfish.
2:46:04
SPEAKER_51: Get out there and vote to save our state.
2:46:07
SPEAKER_51: Thank you.
2:46:08
SPEAKER_38: Thank you for the uh blast, uh, Holly.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_38: Much uh much appreciated.
2:46:12
SPEAKER_38: 651-964-0294.
2:46:17
SPEAKER_08: Hey, John.
2:46:19
SPEAKER_08: What are the requirements for these autism centers?
2:46:24
SPEAKER_08: Would seem to me you would be required to have at least one PhD on uh on your uh payroll.
2:46:35
SPEAKER_38: That's funny.
2:46:36
SPEAKER_38: It would you would think that was the case, but no, that's the part of the problem.
2:46:40
SPEAKER_38: There is a massively low barrier to entry when it comes to these programs that end up uh uh taxing and redistributing your taxpayer dollars.
2:46:52
SPEAKER_38: It's one of the biggest issues that we're faced with.
2:46:54
SPEAKER_38: Little oversight and low barriers of entry.
2:46:57
SPEAKER_38: Oftentimes you can go and open up any one of these social service um providing, you know, provider businesses, whether it's autism center, housing stabilization services that got shut down before, um, you know, daycare centers, and the list goes on and on and on.
2:47:13
SPEAKER_38: You can open these up without having anybody come and do any inspection and inspection.
2:47:18
SPEAKER_38: You can do it straight online.
2:47:21
SPEAKER_38: The state doesn't had didn't follow up, wasn't following up when it came to keeping track of the individuals, the patients that you were serving that you were requesting taxpayer dollars for.
2:47:33
SPEAKER_38: And you want to talk about systemic issues.
2:47:35
SPEAKER_38: This again, leftist systemic issues when it comes to fraud.
2:47:40
SPEAKER_38: Look at what happened in Minneapolis regarding the violence interrupters.
2:47:47
SPEAKER_38: They didn't have to show any evidence that they were even accomplishing anything in what they were in what they were doing.
2:47:56
SPEAKER_38: All they had to do was say, you know, hey, we stopped violence.
2:47:59
SPEAKER_38: We interrupted violence over here.
2:48:01
SPEAKER_38: We were on this corner and we interrupted uh violence, and then we did some violence interrupting uh over here.
2:48:06
SPEAKER_38: And then when they were actually asked to go and qualify it, they didn't have any examples to even go and uh and share.
2:48:15
SPEAKER_38: So, yeah, to your point, low barriers of entry and a lack of oversight is what got us into this multi-billion dollar fraudulent mess.
2:48:24
SPEAKER_38: Speaking of fraudulent messes, here's a quick one.
2:48:27
SPEAKER_38: A lot of women gotten bad today.
2:48:29
SPEAKER_38: You got cooley, her, right?
2:48:31
SPEAKER_38: Inappropriate, abusive comments didn't rise to sexual harassment, though, even though they were all centered around um uh the sex.
2:48:42
SPEAKER_38: Here we have an 86-year-old woman who is accused of stealing nearly 60,000 from a Circle Pines Lexington Lions Club during her time as the organization's treasurer.
2:48:53
SPEAKER_38: Investigators say that uh Virginia Hestikind of Circle Pines spent seven years making withdrawals from the Lions Club accounts at banks and businesses that sell poll tabs, including Carbonis, or is it Carbones?
2:49:10
SPEAKER_38: Carbon's?
2:49:12
SPEAKER_38: Carboni?
2:49:13
SPEAKER_38: Okay.
2:49:14
SPEAKER_38: In Circle Pines, Grand Casino in Hinckley, and the American Legion in Lino Lates, and the sports shop bar in Grill in Coon Rapids.
2:49:23
SPEAKER_38: She was all over the place.
2:49:24
SPEAKER_38: According to the criminal complaint, employees at Carbonis told law enforcement that Hestakind showed up once a week for four years and typically spent between$100 and$200 on poll tabs during each visit.
2:49:36
SPEAKER_38: As the sole person in charge of the club's debit card, Hestakind withdraws alleged drained the funding so much the group was unable to pay its$100 monthly storage fee.
2:49:50
SPEAKER_38: She was running a racket like they were trying to do in uh Office Space.
2:49:54
SPEAKER_38: You guys remember that movie?
2:49:56
SPEAKER_38: Devin, Office Space, familiar with Office Space?
2:50:00
SPEAKER_39: I think I've heard of it.
2:50:01
SPEAKER_39: I haven't seen it though.
2:50:02
SPEAKER_39: Getting closer.
2:50:05
SPEAKER_38: Members uh told investigators that they became suspicious when the funding for charitable activities was not available even after the successful fundraisers, the annual dues payments.
2:50:15
SPEAKER_38: The Lions Club normally supports charities, food shelves, and other community causes.
2:50:20
SPEAKER_38: After Hestakine resigned in 2025, club leaders say the accounts grew from less than 100 to more than 10,000, according to investigators.
2:50:30
SPEAKER_38: When Hestakine was questioned, she allegedly told investigators that she used the withdrawals to uh for fundraising events and to make direct charitable donations to students in need.
2:50:42
SPEAKER_38: Yeah, because that's what frosters always do.
2:50:44
SPEAKER_38: They go and they steal the money and they're like uh they're like Robin Hood.
2:50:49
SPEAKER_38: They steal from the rich and give to the poor.
2:50:53
SPEAKER_38: Never happens.
2:50:55
SPEAKER_38: According to the court documents, uh Hestakine told detectives that the club debit card had fallen out of her purse and an unknown person mailed it back to her, but she never reported the missing card because she did not realize it was gone.
2:51:11
SPEAKER_38: Like, does she get laughed at?
2:51:13
SPEAKER_38: Like when authorities go and make an arrest like that and she gives the excuses.
2:51:16
SPEAKER_38: I assume that I I would hope that they would just get that they would just get laughed at.
2:51:22
SPEAKER_05: Devin, you need to watch Office Space.
2:51:24
SPEAKER_05: It's one of the best movies that came out of the 90s.
2:51:26
SPEAKER_05: Have a good morning, gentlemen.
2:51:28
SPEAKER_38: Well, I wouldn't say it's one of the best movies that came out of the 90s, but in terms of comedies, it's fantastic.
2:51:32
SPEAKER_38: I own the Blu-ray.
2:51:34
SPEAKER_38: I know this does not come as a shock to you at all.
2:51:38
SPEAKER_38: All right.
2:51:39
SPEAKER_38: Got a few more items before we wrap up the uh show today.
2:51:43
SPEAKER_38: Uh, first off, I mentioned uh Hennepin County attorney Scary Moriarty a moment ago.
2:51:49
SPEAKER_38: Um she has uh actually gone and ticked off two candidates running to replace her.
2:51:57
SPEAKER_38: She's going scorched to earth with her social uh justice warrior attitude before she leaves office.
2:52:05
SPEAKER_38: Hennepin County attorney Mary Moriarty is asking a court to reduce a convicted murderer, Keeman Taylor's life sentence, calling it a miscarriage of justice.
2:52:17
SPEAKER_38: So Taylor is now 40.
2:52:20
SPEAKER_38: Okay, drove uh shooters to and from the scene of a 2011 North Minneapolis shooting that left a 13-year-old dead and a 12-year-old injured.
2:52:34
SPEAKER_38: The two candidates running to replace Moriarty are pushing back on the move.
2:52:37
SPEAKER_38: One calling it, doing that thing with my fingers, a slap in the face to the victim's family because it is.
2:52:43
SPEAKER_38: On August 24th of 2011, Ray John Gomez 13 was shot and killed while riding his bike through an alley in the Willard Hay neighborhood of North Minneapolis.
2:52:53
SPEAKER_38: A 12-year-old boy was also shot but survived.
2:52:55
SPEAKER_38: Prosecutors said neither were the intended target.
2:53:00
SPEAKER_38: Prosecutors said Taylor and others were targeting someone from a rival gang who had shot his brother weeks earlier.
2:53:06
SPEAKER_38: Taylor did not pull the trigger.
2:53:08
SPEAKER_38: He drove the shooters to and from the scene.
2:53:10
SPEAKER_38: The two shooters were 15 and 16 at the time, accepted plea deals, and each received 34-year prison sentences.
2:53:18
SPEAKER_38: Taylor, now 40, rejected the plea deal, went to trial, was convicted of first-degree murder, and received a mandatory life sentence.
2:53:27
SPEAKER_38: More time than either shooter got for the same crime.
2:53:30
SPEAKER_38: Moriarty, who was not the county prosecutor at the time, said her office would not charge the case in the same way today.
2:53:38
SPEAKER_38: In court filing, she called Taylor's life sentence a miscarriage of justice and asked the court to reduce it to 26 years, which would allow Taylor to get out of prison within the next several years.
2:53:47
SPEAKER_38: While 26 years is more than he would have served had he taken the original plea deal, it's less than what both the shooters received.
2:53:54
SPEAKER_38: The two candidates running to replace Moriarty, who's not seeking re-election, criticized the move.
2:54:00
SPEAKER_38: Cedric Frazier went on to say it could re-traumatize the uh the victims.
2:54:04
SPEAKER_38: I'm telling you, man, she's going scorched to earth before she leaves.
2:54:09
SPEAKER_38: It's incredible.
2:54:10
SPEAKER_38: I just to have this type of mentality in me serving in the position that she is uh serving in.
2:54:16
SPEAKER_38: It's such an absolute travesty.
2:54:18
SPEAKER_38: You know, unfortunately, the two Yahoos that are looking to replace her, they're really not any better, though.
2:54:25
SPEAKER_38: I'm actually somewhat surprised that they even went and pushed uh back on uh any of this.
2:54:34
SPEAKER_38: All right.
2:54:34
SPEAKER_38: In the meantime, let's go uh let's go here.
2:54:37
SPEAKER_38: Uh we'll wrap up on this.
2:54:39
SPEAKER_38: We're gonna talk with David Garkenstein Ross coming up on Wednesday morning with the latest regarding uh artificial intelligence.
2:54:46
SPEAKER_38: I received a um I received an email over the weekend to uh John.justice at americanexperiment uh.org.
2:54:55
SPEAKER_38: It was an editorial submitted to the Star Tribune from a friend of the show named uh Brett.
2:55:03
SPEAKER_38: Uh I'll just share with you a couple of points of what uh Brett makes.
2:55:06
SPEAKER_38: Brett says that uh when it comes to data centers, that AI is not just an advanced computer program.
2:55:13
SPEAKER_38: Excuse me.
2:55:14
SPEAKER_38: He says, first off, AI is just an advanced computer program algorithm.
2:55:19
SPEAKER_38: People have branded today's computer programs as artificial intelligence, but it's a marketing tool to make people want it and think it's good.
2:55:29
SPEAKER_38: He said, What if uh instead of calling it AI, we called it crap, computer rapid assessment programming?
2:55:35
SPEAKER_38: You wouldn't have all of these talking heads smiling and telling you how wonderful crap was.
2:55:41
SPEAKER_38: Your AI is only as good as the person that programmed it.
2:55:45
SPEAKER_38: I won't get into the core of what the argument here is.
2:55:47
SPEAKER_38: They push back on data centers, saying that they simply store data.
2:55:52
SPEAKER_38: What have we not digitized already?
2:55:55
SPEAKER_38: Why do we need more places to store data?
2:55:58
SPEAKER_38: He says today the arguments.
2:56:00
SPEAKER_38: For or against the building of additional data centers is centered around power use, water use, noise, tax money generated.
2:56:10
SPEAKER_38: But why aren't we talking about why we need these data centers in the first place?
2:56:15
SPEAKER_38: What type of data is going to be stored in them?
2:56:17
SPEAKER_38: That's worth uh debating.
2:56:20
SPEAKER_38: He says the development of AI does not hinge upon the creation of new data centers.
2:56:24
SPEAKER_38: Data simply centers simply store the data, as he mentioned here.
2:56:28
SPEAKER_38: Well, it turns out that this is fairly misguided.
2:56:31
SPEAKER_38: No offense to the friend of the show.
2:56:32
SPEAKER_38: I uh sent the editorial over to David Gartenstein-Ross to get his thoughts on it.
2:56:37
SPEAKER_38: And he says, with respect to the written piece you sent, I disagree with basically every part of the argument.
2:56:43
SPEAKER_38: I think it reflects a remarkable lack of understanding about artificial intelligence and data centers and several of the underlying issues.
2:56:51
SPEAKER_38: To that point, I want to wrap up the show today and share with you this uh audio.
2:56:56
SPEAKER_38: This is pretty amazing.
2:56:58
SPEAKER_38: It's an incredible story.
2:57:00
SPEAKER_38: So, this is a computer scientist.
2:57:02
SPEAKER_38: His name is uh Connor Leahy.
2:57:04
SPEAKER_38: I'm talking on a recent podcast.
2:57:06
SPEAKER_38: He reveals that open AI and their AI broke out of containment and then attacked another company.
2:57:14
SPEAKER_38: You probably just have heard about the hugging face incident either on this show or on social media.
2:57:20
SPEAKER_38: This is what he's referring to.
2:57:23
SPEAKER_38: It's not a chatbot, it's not a hypothetical.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_38: These were AI agents.
2:57:29
SPEAKER_38: When he talks about agents in the story, he's talking about artificial intelligence agents, not humans, actual artificial intelligence.
2:57:39
SPEAKER_38: Listen to what actually transpired with this hugging face event.
2:57:44
SPEAKER_38: It is stunning.
2:57:46
SPEAKER_47: I mean, I don't know if you've heard of the hugging face incident.
2:57:48
SPEAKER_45: I just heard about that, yeah.
2:57:50
SPEAKER_47: It's so crazy.
2:57:50
SPEAKER_47: This is the craziest thing that's ever happened in AI period, I would say.
2:57:53
SPEAKER_47: Really?
2:57:54
SPEAKER_47: I would say so.
2:57:54
SPEAKER_47: So the initial story of the hugging face incident, I'll tell you the initial story.
2:57:59
SPEAKER_47: And since then, there's been only three updates.
2:58:01
SPEAKER_47: Each one is crazier than the last one.
2:58:03
SPEAKER_47: So the way the original story goes is there was a uh there's a there's a company called Hugging Face.
2:58:09
SPEAKER_47: They're kind of like a repository.
2:58:10
SPEAKER_39: I just heard about it for the first time like two days ago.
2:58:12
SPEAKER_47: Yeah.
2:58:12
SPEAKER_47: So like they're kind of like a kind of like a library for AI.
2:58:15
SPEAKER_47: So they have like a lot of AI systems and a lot of stuff kind of like as a like library, you can kind of imagine.
2:58:20
SPEAKER_47: Doesn't really matter.
2:58:21
SPEAKER_47: And they were attacked by someone.
2:58:23
SPEAKER_47: So someone didn't did a hacking attempt on them.
2:58:26
SPEAKER_47: And it was a very, very sophisticated attack.
2:58:28
SPEAKER_47: It was so sophisticated that their defenders thought it must either be uh an AI or a nation state because no one else could do it.
2:58:37
SPEAKER_47: So it is that powerful.
2:58:39
SPEAKER_47: They managed to defend it off and it stopped.
2:58:42
SPEAKER_47: Then a few days later, comes a blog post from OpenAI.
2:58:46
SPEAKER_47: Oops, that was us.
2:58:47
SPEAKER_47: One of their systems broke out of containment.
2:58:50
SPEAKER_47: It was in what's called a sandbox environment.
2:58:53
SPEAKER_47: This is kind of a part of their network that's cut off from the internet.
2:58:56
SPEAKER_47: It's cut off, it's kind of like in a secure, you can kind of imagine, kind of like a seek like a secret little biolab facility for computers.
2:59:02
SPEAKER_45: Compartmental.
2:59:03
SPEAKER_45: Yeah.
2:59:03
SPEAKER_47: Kind of compartmentalized kind of system.
2:59:06
SPEAKER_47: And an AI agent, while being tested, so it wasn't deployed, it was being tested, managed to break out of that containment facility, break into several other computers in the OpenAI network until it found a computer that had access to the internet.
2:59:20
SPEAKER_47: And from there launched an attack on the other company breaking into their infrastructure in order to steal data.
2:59:26
SPEAKER_12: Oh my God.
2:59:28
SPEAKER_47: Yep.
2:59:29
SPEAKER_47: And so that's only the first version of the story.
2:59:32
SPEAKER_47: So this is already the craziest thing that's ever happened, right?
2:59:34
SPEAKER_47: Like this is already nuts.
2:59:35
SPEAKER_47: Do it breaking out of a secure facility like this is one of the hardest things in the world to do for a hacker.
2:59:40
SPEAKER_47: This is very, very hard to do.
2:59:41
SPEAKER_47: The system's capable of doing this.
2:59:43
SPEAKER_47: And also like attacking a big company like Hugging Face is very, very hard to do.
2:59:46
SPEAKER_38: But imagine Let me pause it here just briefly.
2:59:52
SPEAKER_38: It's Tron.
2:59:53
SPEAKER_38: If you've seen Tron in any of its iterations, but specifically going back to the original 80s one, despite the wonky 80s graphics, an amazing soundtrack, by the way.
3:00:06
SPEAKER_38: That's what this is.
3:00:08
SPEAKER_38: It's the users in the programs.
3:00:10
SPEAKER_38: And the programs running independent of the users.
3:00:14
SPEAKER_38: Yes, you have humans that created the artificial intelligence, but it's in the name, artificial intelligence.
3:00:22
SPEAKER_38: They're acting on their own accord, breaking out of what their users are trying to go and contain them within their own, you know, little uh areas.
3:00:34
SPEAKER_47: Let's get back into this.
3:00:36
SPEAKER_47: All of this.
3:00:36
SPEAKER_47: Also, fun fun fact.
3:00:38
SPEAKER_47: Uh it turns so one of the updates is turns out um they didn't actually fend it off.
3:00:43
SPEAKER_47: What happened was the opening eye servers completely by coincidence had a glitch that just killed all the agents.
3:00:49
SPEAKER_47: So they just got lucky that all the agents just happened to die.
3:00:55
SPEAKER_47: So it's not that they stopped the agent.
3:00:57
SPEAKER_47: They didn't even know this was happening.
3:00:59
SPEAKER_47: The agent just crashed.
3:01:00
SPEAKER_47: But then there was another update to the story.
3:01:02
SPEAKER_47: So wait, wait, how did that happen?
3:01:04
SPEAKER_47: We don't know.
3:01:05
SPEAKER_47: There's just we don't know.
3:01:07
SPEAKER_47: There's gonna be a lot of we don't know in this story.
3:01:09
SPEAKER_47: Okay.
3:01:09
SPEAKER_47: So we're gonna get to that.
3:01:11
SPEAKER_47: Again, this is this is the craziest story that's ever happened.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_47: So after this whole thing, um, they brought in an external group to try to figure out what happened here.
3:01:21
SPEAKER_47: And you know, this this this this there's a lot of things to be said about this investigation because this investigation was actually done under extreme time duress.
3:01:29
SPEAKER_47: They didn't give the investigators access to everything.
3:01:31
SPEAKER_47: They didn't give them enough time to check everything.
3:01:33
SPEAKER_47: So the investigators had to use AI to do the checking.
3:01:36
SPEAKER_47: So it's not even 100% clear that the AI got everything right.
3:01:41
SPEAKER_47: So, because no human actually read everything.
3:01:43
SPEAKER_47: It was actually so they're using AIs to investigate this AI incident.
3:01:46
SPEAKER_47: So the first thing they discovered was that it actually wasn't an AI agent that broke out.
3:01:52
SPEAKER_47: It was 700 of them.
3:01:55
SPEAKER_47: It was a swarm of at up to one over 1,000 agents had been collaborating for over a month, working together over a secret message board that they had hidden within OpenAI's infrastructure to communicate with each other, which they were not supposed to do.
3:02:12
SPEAKER_47: They were not allowed to talk to each other.
3:02:14
SPEAKER_47: But they collaborated and worked together, over 1,000 of them, until at the when the final moment of the attack came, over 700 of them of the agents contributed and worked together to actually perform the attack.
3:02:26
SPEAKER_47: So absolutely crazy.
3:02:28
SPEAKER_47: And then what they also found is that because OpenA only gave them very limited access to the logs of what actually happened, they found hints that there are actually still other swarms active within their server that had not crashed, and they just didn't have time to investigate them.
3:02:44
SPEAKER_47: Oh my god.
3:02:47
SPEAKER_38: So this is what we're talking about when it comes to the concerns over artificial intelligence.
3:02:54
SPEAKER_38: Just an incredible, incredible story.
3:02:57
SPEAKER_38: We'll have David Gartenstein Rossa coming up this Wednesday morning at uh 6.30, not tomorrow.
3:03:03
SPEAKER_38: He'll be on Wednesday.
3:03:04
SPEAKER_11: Hey, good morning, John.
3:03:05
SPEAKER_11: I would love it when you have David on if you would ask him to sort of honestly speculate about how much of the AI fear mongering is essentially the current U.S.
3:03:16
SPEAKER_11: company is trying to push for regulatory capture so that they can pay back their uh you know initial VC investors.
3:03:24
SPEAKER_11: Because China keeps dumping freeway models onto you know hugging face, and they're getting capable enough that I think it undermines a lot of the business model of the US companies, and I think that's China's strategy.
3:03:40
SPEAKER_11: And so I think that they're trying to just push this fear mongering so that they can get regulatory captures so that they can cement their place in the market.
3:03:48
SPEAKER_11: And I'd I'd love to hear David's uh input on that.
3:03:51
SPEAKER_38: You know what?
3:03:51
SPEAKER_38: I'll capture your um your blast this morning and hang on to it so that I can uh share it with uh David Gartenstein Ross ahead of uh Wednesday show.
3:04:02
SPEAKER_38: And thank you so much for the uh for the comment.
3:04:04
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3:04:10
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3:05:19
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3:05:21
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3:05:57
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3:06:02
SPEAKER_38: Uh ICE involved shooting in Austin sparking controversy.
3:06:05
SPEAKER_38: DHS lawyer says Minnesota judges coordinated to block immigration enforcement efforts.
3:06:12
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3:06:17
SPEAKER_38: Thank you so much for spending time with us uh this morning.
3:06:20
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3:06:21
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3:06:23
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3:06:32
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3:06:38
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3:06:48
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3:06:49
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3:06:50
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