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  t in tonight's episode of Disguise coverage pretty straightforward, pretty simple. I don't
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  think we need a big lead in to kind of explain what is going on.
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  Legal tampering started yesterday and that means deals are coming to fruition between teams
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  and players. Nothing is official, of course, until Wednesday starting at four
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  pm, and that does happen to a degree. Album will always remember when
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  Anthony Barr agreed to sign with the Jets several years ago on like that Monday
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  or Tuesday, and then that Wednesday flipped and went back to Minnesota. But
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  nonetheless, we are here seeing moves that the Buffalo Bills have made, seeing
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  moves that the Buffalo Bills are not making. How those tie into the red
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  wedding slash Bloody Wednesday That was last week when the Bills overturned a significant part
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  of their roster from a leadership perspective and an on field snaps and meaningful role
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  perspective. So there was a lot to dive into in this episode and kind
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  of set the table for what the outlook looks like for this team going forward,
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  what they need to accomplish, who and what they should be looking to
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  try and address and or bring in and also of course taking a peek and
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  reviewing and reacting and grading a bit the moves that the Buffalo Bills have made
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  thus far, and to do that and join me on this journey and in
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  this episode of Discuss Courage, I am joined by one of favorite space mister
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  Joe Marino, host of course of Lockdown Bills and co hosts of Lockdown Scouting.
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  Joe, you are a very busy man. I appreciate you taking the
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  time and welcome to the show. Good to be here, Anthony. Always
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  loved talking football with you. Excited to kind of hear your thoughts as well
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  on what's been going down with the Buffalo Bills. Again we start here.
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  I know this is your show, but how amazing would it be if Aaron
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  Rodgers winds up being this vice presidential candidate? Man? Are you good?
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  Wow? There's there's so much weirdness with Like I see Aaron Rodgers related stories
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  and I'm always like, oh, that's fake, And then like is no
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  When he was like, oh, yeah, I tore my achilles, I'll
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  be back in like two and a half weeks, I'm like that's like made
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  up or right whatever he actually said, I'm like that's not real. And
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  then I saw this vice president thing and I was like, oh, like
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  that's really funny, like because that sounds like something he would say or something
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  that could actually happen. And I'm like, oh my god, it's real.
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  Like it's like you said, it never is. Like all these outlandish
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  things you hear tied to Aaron Rodgers, they just always seem to be true
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  somehow. Listen, I'm here for the Jets staying the bottom too of the
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  AFC East. They've been there for a while. Yeah, there's I don't
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  know what what since that second Rex Ryan year, whenever the heck that was,
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  they've been down there. And you want to talk about a tizzy.
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  I mean you want to put Jets fans spiraling Aaron Rodgers from what happened this
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  past year into what is he not? He's not gonna play because he's gonna
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  be doing campaigning across the country. I want to see the chaos of like
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  him trying to balance both and it's like, oh, he didn't get a
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  lot of prep this week because they had a debate or and you could see
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  Aaron Rodgers being like, you know, this is my duty, right I
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  have to do this, you know what I mean, Like I made a
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  commitment to the Jets and Woody Johnson, but you know there's bigger things than
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  football, right, come on. And the thing is, I'm not I'm
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  not getting into politics, right, that's I don't. I don't, I'm
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  not doing that. But from what I understand, it's like an independent candidate
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  which whatever not gonna win, right, just not gonna win. So he's
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  gonna put all his time in Oh man, all right, I know that
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  that was a weird hijack to the start of your show, but I've been
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  thinking about that. Man, It's like this would be crazy. It's just
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  and it's just so it's so on brand for him as like a person.
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  Just and again like all the weird because there's professional athletes and like celebrities in
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  general, Like there's always some kind of like rumor. Like I remember like
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  going to the grocery store and you'd see something ridiculous on like the National Inquirer
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  and it was always like fake. But like everything with Aaron Rodgers always like
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  somehow ends up being true, like even just the ayahuasca stuff or whatever it
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  is, Like you imagine if like, well you know how to say that
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  did you said that correctly? I think it's like that rolled off your tongue,
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  like you've said that before. That was unbelievable. You appreciated, appreciate
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  it. I've seen that word. I had no idea how to say it.
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  That was That's I'm pretty close. I think I might be spot on
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  or them at the very least, I'm very, very very close. But
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  you like, would you think like, oh, yeah, like this dude
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  went on this basic like psychedelic drug retreat to hang out in a dark cave
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  for forever, you like just every how would all unravels? It's just like
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  no, that's free, yeah, a darkness or tree. And to think
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  about it, like they said that about like certain guys, you'd be like,
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  no, no way. But like really anything with Aaron Rodgers, Like
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  if you told me like, oh, yeah, he'd like to get more
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  of a feel for New York. He's like living on the streets with the
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  homeless to try and like himself ingrained with the community, I'd be like,
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  I gotta buy that. Likes he's living underneath met life in the sewers to
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  try and like really establish himself with the feeld. I'd be like Okay,
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  that makes sense, Like that tracks nobody else, nobody else, we'd buy
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  it April fools, right, yes, but yeah, okay, my my
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  buddy and my my buddy, my dad, my brother called him all like
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  text me to Aaron Rodgerstseff, and I was just like, and my dad
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  always gets got by like the things that are like fake on the Internet or
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  Twitter, and I was like another one. And then I looked into it
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  and I was like, oh no, this is like actually real, like
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  it's just yeah, man, dude is dude's a wild guy, and especially
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  the independent piece, Like but I love the idea of like the Jets being
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  thrown further into turmoil, on the idea of like what does he do?
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  Does he try to balance both or to your point where he like, no,
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  like I have to I have to do my duty. They signed Tyrod
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  Taylor. I know, like that's not a that's that's not a small deal
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  with the backup quarterback. And this tweet from Kyle Fellows at Packers Pundit April
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  twenty fifth, twenty twenty three. Did you see this tweet? No?
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  I did not. This is April twenty fifth, twenty twenty three. Jets
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  fans gonna be big mad when Rogers doesn't play in twenty twenty four, So
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  he could be Robert Kennedy's running mate if this happens. Kyle Fellows is going
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  to plow up. And I've done podcasts with him before, like he's I've
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  been on the show. He's he's a cool dude. Unbelievable. He didn't.
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  Also, wasn't there someone someone when like Rogers signed with the Jets did
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  something that was like, oh, man, can't wait until like week one,
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  like four minutes into the first quarter and he pops his achilles. It
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  was something like that, and like that person like got it. I almost
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  spot on. He either referenced like the amount of snaps or the time in
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  the first quarter and had it spot on. Like there's some weird tweets that
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  go out there that are like, oh, like, man, it's all
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  gonna comes back to Aaron Rodgers. Everything goes back to Aaron Rodgers. Man,
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  that's a good start. That's a good start. We should just keep
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  going on about Aaron Rodgers and all the I would love to do a show
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  just on like the oddity that is Aaron Rodgers. He's a weird type of
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  dude. But you know what's what's hard for me about Aaron Rodgers. Here
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  we go, we're gonna be ten minutes into this thing. I'm ruining your
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  podcast. No, I like it him that there was a point in my
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  time, a point in my time. There was a point in my life
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  where I thought Aaron Rodgers was the best thing in the NFL. Same loved
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  him. I thought he was such a cool player, the arm, talent,
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  the throw is like he was my kind of quarterback. I was so
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  jealous of him. And now I just think he's a clown. Yes,
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  absolutely, there I was. I was right there with you. I thought
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  Steve Young is my favorite quarterback of all time. So like dudes, you
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  can sling it, but who have like Steve Young to me was always like
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  the perfect quarterback because he was mobile and athletic, but he still like could
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  really play quarterback from the neck up and with his arm, like he had
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  everything and to me at least, and then Rogers came along and I felt
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  like he was the next kind of closest thing to like Young because he had
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  enough mobility and movement and his scrambling was underrated and he could run the ball,
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  but he had a cannon. He was tremendously smart. And then you
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  had some of those games like the game against Arizona and the playoffs and all
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  the different like Hail Mary's that he was completing against Detroit and all these like
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  wild things. I just and the super Bowl against Pittsburgh. Just the way
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  he threw the ball and how the way he played the game. I was
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  very much enamored with it, like similar to you, and now like I
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  just every time I hear him speak, I'm just like, I can't believe
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  I used to like you so much as I feel that way too. It's
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  sad, you know, but again, neither you know, die here or
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  live long enough to see yourself come a villain, you know. And that's
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  where he is. That's what it is. He's the to face this easy
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  or our event of this whole aspect. But Joe, we could probably do
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  this for forever and wax poetically kind of like we did one of the first
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  times I was on your show and we started talking about like the Charlotte Hornets
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  and basketball good times, good times, good times. But we are here
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  to talk about the Buffalo Bills, you know, and I could probably have
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  a good time just talking about whatever. But I don't want to mislead the
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  people, So let's dive into it. And before we get into the nitty
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  gritty details throughout this episode, high level right now. I referenced in the
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  beginning you and I were talking about it offline, a bit of a gut
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  punch last Wednesday with who was released in terms of quality, quantity, emotional
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  aspects involved with the players. You know, from a fan perspective and analyst
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  perspective, however, you look at it, a lot of complicated feelings mentally
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  and emotionally last week. Here we are almost a full week away, so
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  we had that kind of bloody Wednesday action last week, and now we've come
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  into free agency scene some moves, high level. Where are you at right
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  now with this kind of Buffalo Bills off season as we continue to go through
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  free agency and set things up for two twenty four. I think it's been
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  really necessary. I've been speaking on this, but it feels like for a
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  few months now where if you've listened to Lockdown Bills, you've heard me talk
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  about getting younger and cheaper and also not being afraid of resets. And I
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  feel like Brandon Mean has done that, so while it's been tough to kind
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  of see some really good players, meaningful players, pillars of the organization,
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  high character guys, guys we love the rooting for that were a big part
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  of the Bills becoming one of the best teams in the NFL. Go it
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  felt necessary, and you can only for so long sit there and restructure and
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  penny pinch and push money down the road. And he certainly Brandon me did
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  some of that, There's no question he did some of that, but not
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  to the extent that he's had to in the past. And I think it
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  was a very necessary situation to avoid this perpetual cycle that was trending towards becoming
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  the New Orleans Saints, who are already next year over by fifty million dollars
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  and they haven't even finished out their roster this year. As this tradition,
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  it gets tired, It gets very, very tiring, and I think at
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  the end of the day, you have to remind yourself of who you have,
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  and that's seventeen, that's Josh Allen, and yes you need other pieces
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  around him, and I don't want it to make it as hard as it
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  possibly can for Josh Allen to be successful. But you have a dude like
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  you have one of the legit elite players in the NFL, I very clearly
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  to me the second s quarterback, And so you can't stress over some of
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  this stuff. You have to be able to go with some resets, get
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  cheaper, get younger, and rally once again. And I think the Bills
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  are primed to do that. So it's been tough, but I think it's
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  also been very necessary. Piggyback off that I spoke about this, you know,
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  in the film room last week. I was going to get in at
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  some point at the show, but I kind of want to give you your
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  thoughts first again before we try to really dive into the peer individual pieces.
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  You know, you mentioned the Josh Allen aspect, which you can't speak about
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  the Bills without talking about Josh Allen. One of I did an episode a
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  couple of weeks after the Bill season ended, talking about like what it would
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  take for them to overcome the Kansas City Chiefs literally but also figuravely in terms
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  of like getting over the hump in the AFC, finally getting the Super Bowl,
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  so on and so forth. And one of the aspects that I hung
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  my hat on was this offensive line that was tremendous, tremendously improved versus what
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  they'd seen in the past in both pass protection but also in the run game,
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  like the yards before contact and adjusted lineyards for Cook and Murray, even
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  going to Damian Harris ty Johnson, like, the Bills had such a good
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  offensive line and overall well rounded offensive line. You got some athleticism, you
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  got some technique, you have a good football IQ. They could pass pro,
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  they could run, block zone, scheme, gap schemes, a variety
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  of aspects. It was one of the main things I hung my hat on
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  for. You know, twenty twenty four still looks good because you have Josh
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  Allen and you have this group up front protecting him. Where are you?
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  You know, we're getting to deon Dawkins and his extension in a bit,
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  as well as some other pieces, but where are you on that offensive line?
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  You know, you talk about you've got seventeen you know, second best
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  quarterback in the league. That's a good place to start. Where are you
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  on the changes on the offensive line with Morse going out and the reported movement
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  of Connor McGovern from left guard to center, David Edwards being resigned being put
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  in at left guard. Again, there's only five starters, so you're switching
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  essentially two out of the five from a positional standpoint and bringing in a new
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  one. Where are you on those offensive line changes? Does it worry you?
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  Are you not worried? If so, how much you know? Just
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  kind of where's your head at? Yeah? I certainly aligned with what you
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  were saying there and reflecting on the success of the twenty twenty three offensive line
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  and being very excited that it could be intact for twenty twenty four. I
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  in my mock off season, I had the Bills extending Mitch Morse, right,
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  so they did the complete opposite of that, And especially once Bates goes
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  away, you're thinking, well, there's no way Morse is going which I
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  appreciate you mentioning that, because this very clearly signals to me that the Bills
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  made a choice. They didn't have to do this stuff. They didn't have
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  to move on from Bates, didn't have to move on for Mitch Morse.
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  They chose to do this, And I think that's an important layer to this
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  entire conversation, as maybe there are some frustrations that Mitch Morse is no longer
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  around, and then the succession plan of Ryan Bates is traded away, and
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  you know, they're playing some musical chairs. They made a choice to do
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  this. They're well aware, Brandon me and Sean McDermott, they're well aware
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  of the success of the twenty twenty three offensive line and the excitement of keeping
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  an intact for twenty twenty four, and they said, you know what,
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  we don't want to do that, right, So I acknowledge that right off
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  the bat. You study the tape. That's why I love talking to you,
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  man. You know, like we could talk about what's really going on
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  with the film and what these players are doing. We don't have to sit
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  there and just like talk at it, like at a basic level. You
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  watch the tape. If I had one frustration for the Bills offensive line,
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  I thought McGovern and Morse next to each other in the run game, I
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  thought it was sloppy. I thought that there was a lot of timing issues
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  when they're having to kind of combo block and seal, and like their timing
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  was off a lot of times. Neither one of them are particularly good people
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  movers, right, And I think when you have two of those next to
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  each other along the offensive line, that can be problematic, and hopefully you
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  get ahead of that or you fix that issue with moving Connor McGovern to center.
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  And you know, I presume that David Edwards is going to have a
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  great opportunity to be the starting left guard that maybe you get ahead of some
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  of that. So does that sound like I'm finding silver linings and manufacturing things.
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  I can understand why you would say that, But as I try to
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  figure out why, going back to my belief that this was a choice that
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  they were ready to move on from Bates and Morse, you know what were
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  the reasons why? Those are? Those are kind of the things that I
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  land on. Not to mention the strength of this offensive line draft. It's
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  a very very good offensive line draft, And like we need to be honest
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  about, well, no longer Dion Dawkins, he's you know, he's he's
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  extended. But you know, Spencer Brown an expiring contract. You know,
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  they're gonna have to make a decision on him after the twenty twenty four season.
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  They can make it now, perhaps, but I'd probably want want more
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  information on Spencer Brown. I'd want another season. But then the other side
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  of that is it's never going to be cheaper than it is right now.
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  Right, Like, look at how successful that at Oliver contract is, dude,
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  Like, you know as as well as I do. If ed Oliver
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  hit the market, that's a twenty two twenty three million dollar a year player.
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  We got them for sixteen. So yeah, you can ask yourself those
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  questions. And even going back to Tremaine Edmonds right where you didn't get it
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  on early and then he becomes an eighteen million dollar a year linebacker. So
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  there's maybe there's maybe some moves to be made here long term thinking. But
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  I think the Bills made a choice, whether that you agree with it or
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  not. I think they made a choice. They didn't have to do anything
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  that they did. They did it anyways, and you know, I've really
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  kind of try to spend my efforts figuring out why they made that choice.
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  I think it's a good way to go about it and look at it.
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  And that's where my head went to as well. And I look at someone
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  like Connor McGovern, who I think you hit it on the head, like
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  isn't a people mover when he was brought in last year and I was watching
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  his film, like the way I described him as like how he moves people
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  or lack thereof. I described it as more of like a shepherd than he
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  is like a people mover. He's like, come on, let's go,
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  rather than just like let me take you and like move you out of the
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  way. But he anchors well, And I wonder, okay, like you
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  kick him inside, are you trying to just sustain the depth of the pocket
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  more? Because if there was a weakness to Mitch Morre's game at times it
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  was like him struggling a bit with some of those like bigger one text and
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  those zero shade type dudes would be able to kind of drive him back a
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  bit into Josh Allen's laps or are you trying to you know, cement the
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  depth of the pocket there and then you take edwards. That's also a move
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  in that aspect. And again with the size and physicality he has, are
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  you looking to hit more of a downhill aspect of the run game? Like
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  is it? And how many schematic changes do we see? And it's it's
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  just so I don't think it's awful, you know, And I also do
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  trust in Aaron Kromer, who I think, you know, has done a
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  really good job with this offensive line, and you see the techniques that he
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  taught you know, pretty much everywhere he's been, but especially his most recent
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  stop with the Rams, before he was with the Bills, and you see,
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  you know, the hand technique and the usage kind of being replicated here
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  as it was with the Rams. Like you know, he he knows what
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  to identify, he knows how to coach guy's up. But I think that
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  was the most jarring one for me in terms of just like the changes in
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  general, especially like I said, once Bates was gone, I loved the
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  idea last year of Bates and Edwards as like these super subs. Granted we
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  saw Edwards in those six offensive lineman sets, but I was cool with Bates
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  was a starter in the league with some teams, and you had a guy
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  who could play anywhere on the interior and if you're really in a horrible pinch,
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  he might even be able to kick out the tackle for you. And
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  you got him and Edwards this solid starting five again, something that it felt
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  like every year with Alan, like the offensive line was a roller coaster in
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  some way, and Alan was always having to course correct for the weaknesses up
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  front. And last year we kind of got away from that, and I
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  think that's why it was so jarring. Like I understood getting rid of Ployer,
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  the Trey White one I thought was a little bit surprising as well,
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  though I understood it, But yeah, the line changes for me, especially
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  once Bates got traded, Like I literally was like, oh, well,
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  Mitch Moore's like definitely isn't going where I would have been. I would have
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  literally bet my life once Bates was traded that he morse isn't going anywhere.
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  But like you said, like that also to think of it on the other
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  side and that swing of the pendulum, that means it was even more of
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  a concentrated and focused choice. It wasn't reactionary. This was calculated. This
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  was purposeful, and it was for a reason. And obviously as we go
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  forward we'll kind of figure that reason out. But yeah, it's, man,
• 20:34
  just a very interesting aspect. One thing we have to point out here
• 20:37
  as well is it probably is a good sign for where the team believes alec
• 20:45
  Anderson is. Oh yeah, for what we talk about with Ryan Bates as
• 20:52
  this five position guy. Alec Anderson's also that, right, So if they
• 20:56
  if they believe in him as this multi position player, and they're pleased with
• 21:03
  his trajectory as a as a you know, as a developmental player. Maybe
• 21:07
  they thought there was some redundancy and they could Okay, well we'll get our
• 21:11
  fifth round pick, we'll save a little bit of cap the next year,
• 21:15
  and we believe we have something in Alec Anderson. So another piece of the
• 21:19
  pie as I try to figure out, well, why they do this,
• 21:22
  you know, that's a good point as well, and especially he had some
• 21:25
  moments in the preseason where his physicality and nastiness really showed. And so you
• 21:30
  have that aspect, which you know is like a chromer piece that he likes.
• 21:33
  And then so much of the conversation like we don't see what happens in
• 21:37
  practices throughout the year, and maybe he's just week after week like showing these
• 21:41
  improvements. And then yeah, you sit down for kind of the year end
• 21:45
  conversation, and they bring that conversation to the table, like you know,
• 21:48
  Anderson was having a he really showed improvement year week after week in practice and
• 21:52
  practice. Then you bring that bigger conversation to the table and obviously the money
• 21:56
  and everything tied to it. With Morse and what you could say even though
• 21:59
  he was a good player and all that aspect, but yeah, I wanted
• 22:02
  to pick your brain on that a little bit. And now, Joe,
• 22:04
  let's pivot to the meat of this episode and the crux of it, the
• 22:10
  brass tacks of it. We'll start with mister Daiquon Jones comeback, comes back
• 22:12
  to the Buffalo Bills on a two year, sixteen million dollar deal. Really
• 22:18
  strong first two years with the Bills, coming in as a free agent.
• 22:22
  I continue to say it every time. If he would have sustained the production
• 22:26
  in the level of play that he was on in twenty twenty three, I
• 22:29
  think he's an All Pro with the year he was having last year. Just
• 22:33
  the pass rush pop is something that I wasn't anticipating in his game, and
• 22:37
  he brought it. Just the penetration, the moves, the force, everything
• 22:41
  that he was inside against the run. He started to showcase that against the
• 22:45
  pass, a real keikog in that defense. Significant loss when he went down,
• 22:49
  and even when he came back fighting through that pack a little bit,
• 22:52
  wasn't exactly the same guy. But he comes back again two years, sixteen
• 22:56
  million dollar deal. What are your thoughts? Thumbs up, thumbs down?
• 22:59
  How much thumbs up, all that kind of stuff, all the thumbs up
• 23:02
  on this, I think I think a lot of us had Daikwon Jones as
• 23:06
  the highest priority for the Bills list of expiring contracts, and so I'm very
• 23:11
  pleased to see him return. The deal I think is really very reasonable.
• 23:15
  He's the twenty seventh highest paid defensive tackle in the NFL. He's just a
• 23:18
  tick below bj Hill if I'm not mistaken, and just ahead of like Harrison
• 23:23
  Phillips in shy tuttle like. I feel like it's very appropriate value. And
• 23:27
  what's interesting about Daikwon Jones And I'm glad you mentioned the pass rush ability,
• 23:32
  right, that's something that felt like it was unlocked last year, which is
• 23:36
  extremely strange for a guy in their age thirty two season. But I think
• 23:41
  when you consider the defenses that he's played on in the past in Tennessee,
• 23:45
  where he's you know, he's literally a two gaping nose tackle, even his
• 23:49
  one season in Carolina. He goes to Buffalo and in twenty twenty one,
• 23:53
  he was a good player, but it's definitely different. Right. It's an
• 23:57
  attack style, one tech, which is different than what he's been asked to
• 24:03
  do in the past, and so you could see that comfort coming along,
• 24:06
  not only in his role, but how he was playing off of at Oliver.
• 24:10
  I think that was one of my favorite developments in the seven games that
• 24:14
  we got a chance to watch Daikon at twenty twenty three was how well him
• 24:17
  and at Oliver were executing games up front and how well they were playing off
• 24:22
  of each other. And so, you know, you just don't expect a
• 24:27
  surge for a guy he's always been a good player, but like there's no
• 24:32
  doubt those first four and a half games in twenty twenty three it was another
• 24:37
  level. You mentioned all pro I agree with you. I'm excited to see
• 24:41
  how he comes back in twenty twenty four. You know, he loves being
• 24:48
  in Buffalo. He's from like Johnson City, New York, grew up a
• 24:52
  Bills fan, Like this is what he wants to do. He takes great
• 24:56
  care of himself, and I think that comfort in the defense and even more
• 24:59
  so in his role gets me really excited. So yeah, I'm thrilled to
• 25:03
  have him back. They I mean, at Oliver was the only guy under
• 25:07
  contract. I knew eleon Ku was kind of a future steal guy, but
• 25:11
  they need they needed to bring some guys back. I certainly force and turnover
• 25:15
  with the defensive line, but I mean, I think there was a tweet
• 25:18
  from you a few weeks ago about the possibility of like the amount of snaps
• 25:22
  from the defensive line that we're expiring, and oh, yes, I don't
• 25:26
  think that's healthy, right, Like, I'm for some of that, but
• 25:30
  not all of that. So it's good to see Daikwan Jones, who I
• 25:33
  think has a chance to be an impact player for this defense for the next
• 25:36
  couple of seasons. Yeah. He he just meant so much to this defense
• 25:42
  with that role, getting somebody who can function on the line against the run
• 25:48
  like he does and allow you to you know, you and I talked about
• 25:51
  it on your show a bit with the whole Nickel defense aspect and some of
• 25:53
  the things we'll see in twenty twenty four. But you know, with him
• 25:56
  on the field, he makes it more sustainable for you to stay in Nickel
• 26:00
  or for you to play those light boxes because of what he does against the
• 26:03
  run, and then yeah, like that pass rush aspect. He you know,
• 26:07
  I've been lucky enough to have the pleasure of doing two Film Room episodes
• 26:11
  with him and just you really get to see his football IQ and how smart
• 26:15
  he is. But in one of the episodes it may have actually been like
• 26:18
  offline before we even did the show, but he talked about coming over to
• 26:22
  the Bills and having to change like his play style, coming like you said,
• 26:26
  from being more than two gaping guy and now he's in like a one
• 26:29
  gapping defense. And that put it into my perspective even more because I knew
• 26:33
  that already, but him talking about it as that's not like the easiest transition,
• 26:38
  like to go from that change. I put it kind of in a
• 26:41
  similar boat when people are like, oh, well, yeah, that guy
• 26:44
  plays right tackle, you can just take him and put him at left tackle.
• 26:47
  It's like, no, listen, listen to Tristan Wurf's last year talk
• 26:49
  about moving from right tackle to left tackle and how different it is and how
• 26:52
  crazy it is changing your post foot but your plant foot in your hands and
• 26:56
  how you're punching and all that kind of stuff. And so for him to
• 26:59
  change kind of his role and play style, but being able to do so
• 27:04
  because of his skill set and how functionally intelligent he is. And you watch
• 27:08
  him, you know, break down blocks and understand Okay, this guy's trying
• 27:12
  to reach me here. If the play's going here, you can watch him
• 27:15
  track running backs and change leverage and shut things down. Yeah, he was
• 27:19
  absolutely a priority re signing for me. I know it was for you as
• 27:22
  well. Like you mentioned, I'm sure for everybody, Like even just your
• 27:26
  most casual fan is probably on the street being like, are the Bills going
• 27:29
  to bring back Daikon Jones? And he pairs so well with that Oliver And
• 27:32
  yet to the point like the Bills only had six offensive linemen under contract before
• 27:37
  free agency started for this year, and the interior was a very scary piece.
• 27:41
  And I also think what's nice too is even if they had brought in
• 27:45
  a higher profile potential, like you know, defensive tackle signing, what's nice
• 27:48
  about Daiquon is you have that known quantity. There is no like, well,
• 27:52
  what if he doesn't work out? We know who he is, we
• 27:55
  know how he plays, we know what his fit is on the field,
• 27:57
  off the field, what he means to this team. There is no like
• 28:02
  potential worry about what if he isn't what we want him or need him to
• 28:06
  be. We know what he is and when he's healthy do was an absolute
• 28:08
  game wrecker on the interior, and I've been trying to scroll. I always
• 28:14
  want to need something that can never find it. I was trying to find
• 28:15
  that tweet of how many snaps were going to be lost. I'm pretty sure
• 28:18
  it was around like forty six percent of steps. It was fifty, so
• 28:22
  high. And so Daikon comes back and you know, again a priority position,
• 28:27
  premium position played it extremely well. No quantity. Yeah, and for
• 28:32
  the price too, like an average annual value of like eight million dollars.
• 28:36
  You're for a guy who can potentially play at an all pro level and affect
• 28:40
  the quarterback and affect the run from the interior. Tremendous, tremendous value for
• 28:44
  him coming back. What didon? Did Rayqwon Davis get seven per? I
• 28:49
  think he just signed for seven per and I I would I would argue that
• 28:55
  Daikwon Jones is three times the player Rayqwon Davis's. Oh I would take Uh
• 28:59
  that's yeah, two years, fourteen million dollars with the Colt. Yeah,
• 29:03
  so what was he like, He's coming out of his rookie deal too.
• 29:06
  He's a young player. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, he
• 29:08
  was a second round pick back in twenty twenty yep, good call. Yeah,
• 29:11
  and so he's getting one million more. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm ecstatic
• 29:15
  with that deal. That was kind of what I had PEG like. I
• 29:18
  would gladly live in that realm of like eight to nine average annual value for
• 29:22
  DAYK one like And honestly, I think Age probably went into it. If
• 29:25
  he's twenty nine instead of thirty two, that's the Grover Stewart. It's it's
• 29:30
  eleven twelve for sure, exactly. And so he gives you that high floor
• 29:33
  and he still again allows this defense to really take off, adds that protection
• 29:37
  for Matt Milano went Torell Bernard. So he comes back A j Panessa also
• 29:42
  coming back someone who I think, depending on what sect of the fan base
• 29:48
  you speak to, this is either a nice, all cool type of move
• 29:52
  or this is awful because he never amounted to anything. The draft pick was
• 29:56
  a waste, and now the money is a further waist. But a those
• 30:00
  people have watched the last two seasons because it must not have its never enough.
• 30:04
  It's never enough for a guy who supposed it's this. I think it's
• 30:07
  the same group of people that are like, well, I heard that Ed
• 30:11
  Oliver was like Aaron Donald, and he's not Aaron Donald, so he sucks
• 30:15
  and I'm upset because he's not that and I'm not friends with those people.
• 30:18
  Yeah, I don't know about those people. Talk to those people. But
• 30:22
  aj Pvanessa comes back to the Buffalo. Bill's two year deal twelve million dollars
• 30:26
  six million dollars average annual value. The cap hits are really nice the way
• 30:30
  they spread it out. His cap hit for this year is only three point
• 30:33
  nine million, three point nine six so basically let's call it four. You
• 30:37
  get a guy who comes back who to your point, and I hate saying
• 30:42
  this because I feel like it makes me sound like an Ajfanessa apologist. But
• 30:45
  he gets drafted during that COVID offseason where you cannot meet in person really ever,
• 30:52
  and so that's going to hinder someone's development. And at the same time,
• 30:56
  they ask him to change his body composition and his play style. So
• 31:00
  he's learning on the fly how to play edge in a complete different manner and
• 31:03
  way than he played it at Iowa, and he's got to do it pretty
• 31:07
  much virtually for the majority of his first year. I hate calling that first
• 31:11
  year a wash, but I really feel like it was just because of how
• 31:15
  much he had to go through acclimating the life of the NFL with COVID changing
• 31:19
  his play style and body composition, and in addition to just adjusting to life
• 31:23
  as a professional football player, which is also not the easiest thing. But
• 31:26
  each year from year one to year two, two to three, and three
• 31:30
  to four this past year, you saw incremental improvements in his game against the
• 31:34
  pass and against the run. His hand technique is something these past two years
• 31:40
  that he had some teach tape with the prototypical, you know, beat the
• 31:42
  hands, beat the man type of stuff. He had a rep against Philly
• 31:45
  where he just completely swipes and beats Jordan Mayolotta around the arc with his hands.
• 31:51
  Like multiple plays on the ball this past year with you know, batted
• 31:53
  balls, interceptions, a touchdown. Some of his athleticism starting to show up.
• 31:57
  So again he gets brought back on that contract. You like it,
• 32:00
  You like the deal. Where do you think he slots in? Do you
• 32:04
  still think there's upside because he's he's not the most polarizing player, But I
• 32:07
  think again depending on who you ask, some people are like cool and other
• 32:10
  people hate that he came back. Yeah, for this money, I'm really
• 32:15
  fine with it. Six million AAV I think is extremely reasonable. Love the
• 32:20
  trajectory, Love what he's done the last two years, as he's become more
• 32:23
  confident, as he's learned to play with the new body type, and you
• 32:30
  know, I think I think he I think he lost too much weight to
• 32:32
  start and then kind of had to put some back on it. So there's
• 32:36
  there's a lot that goes into that, but I love the trajectory that he's
• 32:38
  on. I felt like that rib injury really it was about three quarters of
• 32:44
  the way through the season, was against Kansas City. I mean, he
• 32:46
  was really really hitting his stride and then you missed a couple of games and
• 32:51
  you could totally just wasn't quite the same coming back, and you could you
• 32:53
  could feel that missing from the defense. But I think between him and Miller,
• 32:58
  I think you've got your arder opposite of Groot of Greg Russo, and
• 33:04
  I think you're probably at this point looking for that fourth guy in the rotation.
• 33:07
  So I think he was my second most desired player to bring back,
• 33:14
  and so landing Day Kwon Jones and Ajpanessa were the two extensions I was hoping
• 33:21
  for and to get them at this point makes me happy they were players I
• 33:25
  definitely wanted back. And AJ's young, Like he's a very young players,
• 33:30
  the only twenty five years old, so I'm excited to see how he continues
• 33:34
  to develop. I don't think there's any question about who he is and what
• 33:37
  his role is. And you know, Boogie Basham's no longer around. We
• 33:40
  don't have to have those conversations anymore. And he's just becoming more and more
• 33:45
  comfortable. He's an a sending young player that the Bills got under contract for
• 33:47
  a modest deal for the next two seasons. I'm good with that. I
• 33:52
  also think like if you look at some of like the numbers to kind of
• 33:54
  put things into perspective, so like from a passwords productivity standpoint, and pass
• 33:59
  or's productivity being you know, sacks, hits, hurries, all of that
• 34:02
  relative to how much you know a player rushes the quarterback Ajfvanessa. Out of
• 34:07
  one hundred and eighteen qualifying edges in twenty twenty three, he finished twenty seventh
• 34:13
  in pass rust productivity, which again playing a good chunk of the year with
• 34:16
  that ribbon in really similar to kind of how Groot was playing through a chunk
• 34:20
  of the year with that like ankle and foot yep, all that kind of
• 34:22
  stuff, playing with a busted wheel. And I love that you mentioned that
• 34:25
  injury piece. I didn't want to mention it in addition to kind of already
• 34:29
  like talking he's got to change all this stuff. It maybe me sound like
• 34:30
  a bigger Homer, but yeah, that's a significant piece. Like he was
• 34:35
  flashing the athleticism and football IQ and just his ability to I saw somebody,
• 34:40
  somebody kind of came at one of the ajfins things was like, oh,
• 34:44
  like the batted passes which he was tied for first in the league with,
• 34:46
  you know, for amongst those edges with five and could have had a couple
• 34:51
  of interceptions off it as well. But people are like, oh, you
• 34:52
  know, that's not consistent. It was more luck than anything. It wasn't
• 34:55
  luck. He's reading quarterback drops and he's taken the right angle, and he's
• 35:00
  getting in passing windows and lanes, and I just I think, I also,
• 35:05
  do you know, to your point, with his age and given you
• 35:07
  know his career trajectory, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility
• 35:10
  that he continues to make these incremental improvements over these next two years in this
• 35:14
  deal, Now will he ever be a true edge one or this terror off
• 35:19
  the other side of Grood or on his own? You know, I think
• 35:22
  that still remains to be seen. But he's a very quality I think rotational
• 35:25
  player at this moment. If he's your edge three, I think you feel
• 35:30
  comfortable within that. And again some of the metrics speak to it. The
• 35:34
  tape speaks to it. I really didn't think he was gonna come back.
• 35:37
  I thought somebody was going to kind of bite on the upside and give him
• 35:42
  an eleven twelve million a year type of deal, like it's for dudes on
• 35:46
  the edge market. I mean we saw what like Yader gross motto Scott for
• 35:51
  San Francisco forty nine ers, ess just get paid? Yeah, literally,
• 35:54
  I mean that's that's might be the worst deal I've seen so far in free
• 35:58
  agency. What has he done? What was it? Is it? Two
• 36:00
  years eighteen Yes? Two years eighteen million. It made me go back to
• 36:05
  the point that I was like, have I have I been like watching wrong?
• 36:07
  Because I got the same thing right, Okay, cool, So I'm
• 36:10
  not like I was just I was shy at first, I misread and I
• 36:14
  was like maybe it's two years, eight million dollars. It was like,
• 36:16
  nope, two years. So when you're seeing what he's getting on the open
• 36:20
  market, and then you know, I love Jonathan Grenard. He got paid
• 36:24
  big time on that market, like you know Edges quite oh, Bryce Hoff,
• 36:30
  Yes, getting paid big time, Like if you can affect a quarterback,
• 36:34
  you're getting paid on the open market. And I really thought somebody was
• 36:37
  going to bite on that trajectory in the upside, along with some of the
• 36:40
  floor that aj Panessa offered. I was actually shocked that he came back and
• 36:45
  that he came back at the price he came back at. I thought he
• 36:47
  was going to get closer to like double digit and average annual value because of
• 36:51
  the trajectory he was on. What's going to be interesting with that Panessa as
• 36:54
  a guy who's probably played I mean not probably Look at the umbers right here.
• 37:00
  Over the last three seasons and games he was healthy for between thirty seven
• 37:05
  and forty one percent of the snaps. I think now he's in line for
• 37:07
  that to jump ten to fifteen to twenty percent, and if his production that
• 37:12
  he's had over the last two seasons sustains over a ten to fifteen to twenty
• 37:17
  percent more snap volume. Those numbers are going to be really good, really
• 37:22
  good, a lot of splash plays. Yeah, I'm excited to see what
• 37:25
  he does. And again, I think he'll continue to get better. It's
• 37:29
  just going to be a matter of like how much and what does he really
• 37:31
  turn into? And you know, him getting that two year deal, how
• 37:36
  that aligns with this edge position. This conversation for another time, but you
• 37:39
  know, with Groot's rookie contracts starting to come to that fifth year option territory,
• 37:44
  von Miller's contract, Ajfmanessa like this edge grouping for twenty twenty five and
• 37:50
  beyond is very is very interesting, like in a good way, but also
• 37:52
  potentially like in some scary ways at times too. All Right, So now
• 37:57
  that offensive line conversation we started to talk about it, just with some of
• 38:00
  the wholesale changes, but let's focus more on that. Dion Dawkin's aspect,
• 38:04
  he plays games with everyone early on Monday, you know, make it it
• 38:07
  seem like he was out, but you know, being the character that he
• 38:12
  is, he was not signs an extension that pays him very very very very
• 38:15
  very very very handsomely amongst not just left tackles, but amongst all tackles,
• 38:21
  with what he got, I think let's start with, you know, that
• 38:23
  twenty twenty three season that he had, you know, playing really well next
• 38:27
  to Connor McGovern and arguably his best season, especially when you're looking at like
• 38:30
  pressure rates and advanced metrics pieces, and even when you put it on the
• 38:34
  tape and watching some of what he was doing. So how do you feel
• 38:37
  about you know, I'm assuming you're happy about Dawkins staying, but how happy
• 38:40
  are you relative to the money that he got twenty point two million AAV That
• 38:46
  makes him right now the fifth highest paid offensive tackle in the NFL, which
• 38:52
  is crazy when you consider that Robert Hunt is now a twenty million dollars a
• 38:54
  year guard Wild Hawes. That's crazy to me. So he's fifth. And
• 39:02
  I actually said a couple of weeks ago on Lockdown Bills, I was doing
• 39:07
  my offensive line performance review for twenty twenty three, and I said, I
• 39:12
  think it's time for us to no longer talk about Dion Dawkins as an above
• 39:15
  average left tackle. Right we would say he's probably ten to fifteen. I
• 39:19
  said, I think he's firmly top ten. And then they paid him like
• 39:22
  he's the top five left tackle, and I always like to look at the
• 39:28
  future of the market, and right now he comes in at fifth, below
• 39:31
  Laramie Tunzel, Andrew Thomas, Trent Williams, Lane Johnson. Then it's Dion
• 39:35
  Dawkins. Juwan Taylor is sixth. There's gonna be some big contracts handed out
• 39:39
  very soon. Penny Suwel, Tristan Wurfs, Ray, Shawn Slater, Christian
• 39:45
  Darisaw. I promise you they all topp deon Dawkins. So in the next
• 39:51
  calendar year, Dawkins is gonna go from fifth to ninth, you know what
• 39:54
  I mean, Like, it's just a matter of time. And that doesn't
• 39:57
  even factor in Jed Wills or any unexpected like breakout players, which tends to
• 40:02
  happen. So I'm pretty fine with the contract valuation. I know that there
• 40:07
  was a great opportunity with his cap hit in twenty twenty four to kind of
• 40:12
  spread that out through the remainder of the deal. And we we have so
• 40:15
  much to learn. I get this question so many times right now, like,
• 40:17
  well, how much cap space do the Bills have? I don't know
• 40:21
  right there, but part of part of that equation is factoring in there,
• 40:27
  there's a cap benefit to that. There should be a cap benefit to the
• 40:30
  Dion Dawkins extension. So you get more Dion Dawkins, you get cap space.
• 40:36
  Now why I'm good and I think it's I think it's gonna be a
• 40:40
  good value deal. And Dion is has become a pillar of the organization.
• 40:45
  Like, not only is he a high level performers, he made the last
• 40:47
  three Pro Bowls at left tackle. If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, yeah,
• 40:52
  he might ask. So he's coming off of his best season. He'd
• 40:54
  tell you that. He obviously referenced that in his in his press conference.
• 41:00
  But I really like not only the player, but the person the personality.
• 41:07
  The last two seasons, he's been the Walter Payton Man of the Year.
• 41:10
  Like he's every He's Buffalo, right, Like is there a player that vibes
• 41:15
  more with Buffalo than Beyon Dawkins, Like in every imaginable way, just the
• 41:17
  perfect Like that left tackle for this football team. They ran the run game
• 41:22
  through him, dude, Like they ran tackle rep all year long. What
• 41:25
  I don't maybe you have this number, I don't have it. What percentage
• 41:29
  of plays was Deon Dawkins a place side blocker, whether they ran it left
• 41:32
  or they ran it behind him in the tackle rep and I'm absurd. I
• 41:37
  mean, it was like, I'm gonna give you a weird reference. But
• 41:38
  it's like Jonathan Cooper at North Carolina. There's not many people that's gonna understand
• 41:43
  that. But if you remember watching Jonathan Cooper at North Carolina, they ran
• 41:46
  that offense through him. The Bills did that with Dean Dawkins. He's a
• 41:50
  special player, special person. Like, yeah, I don't see one bit
• 41:53
  of downside on that move at all. And that's such a great call too,
• 41:58
  Like they wrote lied on that run scheme so much this year, and
• 42:04
  it worked consistently even when a lot of teams knew it was coming, because
• 42:07
  unbelievable. There was one play against the Patriots where I was like, oh,
• 42:09
  they know it, they know the play, Yeah, they know the
• 42:13
  play? Was it Dietrich WHI shot it? And it's like, oh,
• 42:15
  man, I hope that everyone doesn't do that. And then it never happened
• 42:17
  again. And there was there was a couple in the second game against the
• 42:22
  Jets where CJ. Moseley like diagnosed it squeezed the front side cut it off,
• 42:27
  but Aside from that, they ran it like every single week and it's
• 42:30
  a testament to Spencer Brown on one side and Dion Dawkins on the other end.
• 42:35
  So much of Spencer Brown's game is like predicated upon that athleticism. Everyone
• 42:38
  always talks about it, but I don't think we talk about Dion Dawkins's athleticism
• 42:43
  enough. And I think it's because he doesn't look like the most athletic type
• 42:45
  of dude. But he can move and he can scoot, and that's the
• 42:49
  reason they were able to rely on that piece. And he's got really good
• 42:52
  snatch trap, like just some of his hand usage and what he does.
• 42:55
  When I saw the amount at first, I kind of balked at it again,
• 43:00
  especially because it was like agents speak, but listed is like the fourth
• 43:04
  highest paid tackle. I was like tackle in general. But then exactly what
• 43:07
  you mentioned, I went and started looking at the deals that'll be coming up
• 43:12
  after that, and he's gonna get pushed down. Similar to Ed Oliver and
• 43:15
  similar to Justin had a great comment in the chat. You're saying, it's
• 43:19
  like when Trey was the highest paid cornerback for like ten minutes. Yeah,
• 43:22
  he got paid, and then and like after a day and a half,
• 43:23
  it was like, well, Trey White's not like the fourth highest paid corn.
• 43:27
  It was like, okay, Like that deal looks even better and it
• 43:29
  continues to get better and continues to get better, and so I think that's
• 43:32
  a deal, like you said, that'll start to age better and look good.
• 43:37
  And especially to position, you know, those tackle spots. I know
• 43:39
  there's some debate nowadays, I think for like what are premium positions and what
• 43:44
  aren't. But even if you're like it's just an average left tackle and you're
• 43:49
  just steady, you're gonna get paid. Let alone Dion Dawkins being consistently above
• 43:52
  average, and then to your point, I think has been above above average,
• 43:57
  like that that position's gonna get paid on them. And even if you're
• 44:00
  not the second I'm not saying this about Dean Dawkins, but even if you're
• 44:04
  not like the sexiest guy and you just get the job done, there's tremendous
• 44:07
  value knowing that you have a bookend that is just gonna be this steady eddy
• 44:12
  on the side there, but he's flashed improvement. I am interested to see
• 44:15
  what he looks like paired next to if the reports are true, paired next
• 44:20
  to David Edwards this year. I wonder how they work together. But I
• 44:23
  mean, dude has really just been a model of consistency a lot like these
• 44:28
  past couple of years, and especially in twenty twenty three, like taking his
• 44:30
  game to the that next level and yeah, I love your point there,
• 44:34
  and it's something I had my notes as well, like we're going to look
• 44:36
  at this deal two years from now and be like, man like, yeah,
• 44:39
  he's the I don't know, ninth, tenth or eleventh, like paid
• 44:42
  tackle, like the Brian O'Neal maybe gets another deal, like Ramcheck might get
• 44:45
  like another deal, like these younger guys who are starting to we're going to
• 44:49
  be free agents in like that twenty twenty five twenty twenty six range, Like
• 44:52
  all these type of deals start to creep in, and then the obvious twenty
• 44:54
  twenty four benefit of the KAP relief that we're assuming a god like I haven't
• 45:00
  seen so many things are like weird. I hate not knowing all the cap
• 45:04
  details right away, so I can just calculate and know, and then like
• 45:07
  a lot of like over the cap and the spot track are both as soon
• 45:10
  as like new deals happen, they pull the old contract and all the details
• 45:15
  from the site. So then like I'm trying to like messes up my old
• 45:19
  numbers and I'm glad I had things copy and pasted. But yeah, wild
• 45:22
  times, but good for Dion and again continues to be kind of that core
• 45:24
  piece going forward. Another person the Bills brought back who you know, unlike
• 45:30
  Deon Dawkins, you know, still under contract, gave him that extension.
• 45:32
  But similar to the Daiklon Jones and the aj Apanessa's of the world, Taylor
• 45:36
  Rapp came back to the Buffalo Bills, came in last year on that one
• 45:40
  year I think like two point five million dollar deal, something very very very
• 45:45
  low. Comes in this year after testing I guess we'll not really testing the
• 45:50
  open market, but being you know, a UFA. But he comes back
• 45:52
  to the Buffalo Bills and for what it looks like right now, penciled in
• 45:58
  as that starter and when you see the money, you know, thinking that
• 46:00
  as well. What are your thoughts on Taylor rap I guess you know,
• 46:02
  what do you think of him from the twenty twenty three perspective? What do
• 46:05
  you think of him being a full time not just like the third safety on
• 46:08
  the field type of guy sub package. You know, what do you think
• 46:12
  of him being an actual, like three down every downstarter for this Buffalo Bills
• 46:15
  team this year and going forward. I didn't love Taylor Rapp in twenty twenty
• 46:20
  three. I was hoping for more. I really liked him with the Rams,
• 46:23
  and That's gonna be a big part of where I'm gonna get to in
• 46:28
  this conversation. But I candidly I didn't love him. I know early on
• 46:31
  it was three safety looks. They tried to play in the box. That
• 46:34
  was a bit of a disaster. And then you know he's coming in.
• 46:37
  He's having to play situationally, you know, filling in for Mica Hide a
• 46:42
  couple of times, filling in for Poyer I think at least one game,
• 46:44
  and then they had to do this musical chairs on long and Lake downs where
• 46:47
  Dotson goes off the field, Ployer goes a linebacker, Rap comes in at
• 46:51
  safety. Like a very strange year, and then you know he in his
• 46:54
  press conference, he talked a lot about some personal challenges that he went through
• 46:59
  that made things difficult for him in twenty twenty three. But the point that
• 47:01
  I want to make here is in my twenty twenty three mock off season for
• 47:06
  the Buffalo Bills. I had the Bills moving on from Jordan Poyer, and
• 47:10
  I had them signing Taylor Rapp to a three year, twenty four million dollar
• 47:15
  contract. Oh so value. Yeah, if that gives you any idea of
• 47:17
  the player I thought Taylor rap was before twenty twenty three, that should give
• 47:22
  you some encouragement because I really really liked him. And so one thing that
• 47:28
  I do trust is for Sean McDermott to figure out safety. So the resume
• 47:31
  is just off the charts. And not only did they pay him a three
• 47:36
  year contract, that's really one year and then we'll see and I know that
• 47:39
  it's what valued up to ten to eleven million bucks, Like that's a very
• 47:44
  reasonable dollar amount. But they were around him for the past year. So
• 47:47
  somebody who's unbelievable at developing safety spent the last year around this safety and says,
• 47:53
  you know what, I think, we want you to be one of
• 47:55
  our guys next year. That gives me a level of comfort. Now.
• 47:59
  I want him to be a better player than he was this past season,
• 48:02
  and I have a level of confidence that he will be. But if he's
• 48:07
  the player he was last year. I don't, I don't. I don't
• 48:08
  love that, but I think I think somewhere inside of him is that guy
• 48:13
  that we saw with the Rams, the guy that I watched in training camp.
• 48:15
  I'm sure you went to some of the training camp practices he popped.
• 48:19
  Man. I was like, dude, I think this guy's going to be
• 48:21
  a baller. He's rocked up, he's all over the place. You love
• 48:23
  the practice energy, and you know, if you go to the training camp
• 48:29
  practices, you could tell they're pretty They knew who twenty one, twenty three,
• 48:34
  and twenty seven were. Those guys didn't play, They didn't have a
• 48:37
  lot of practice reps, right, you know what I mean. So you
• 48:37
  saw a lot of Taylor rap in those in kind of, you know,
• 48:43
  stepping in for those guys. So I'm I'm optimistic, but I'm certainly not
• 48:47
  pointing to twenty twenty three as my primary reason for optimism. You know,
• 48:52
  he I went in why as soon as he signed last year, I went
• 48:54
  back and watched the RAMS tape and I went to the playoff run lead to
• 49:00
  the super Bowl because he I remember them bringing like Eric Weddle off the couch
• 49:06
  to start and it was Weddell and Nick Scott who's now in Cincinnati where the
• 49:08
  starting safeties and be benched in Cincinnati, so right makes sense for Jordan Battle
• 49:15
  and they were the starters. And then like you're looking at Taylor Rap and
• 49:20
  he's this like Apex big nickel third down dime linebacker, but he's holding his
• 49:25
  own li Like there's multiple reps where he's covering on Jamar Chase from the slot
• 49:30
  and like canceling him and then like you know he Chase will make a tackle,
• 49:34
  he shuts him down for a third down stop. And I thought he
• 49:37
  would be used in more of that role. And then to your point,
• 49:39
  early on they tried to use him in that big nickel role but like closer
• 49:44
  to the box, and I'm like early downs and he just does not function
• 49:46
  well in that space like last year and that AA in there, and I
• 49:51
  thought he got better as the season went on. I still think he's arguably
• 49:53
  the best tackler on the Bill's defense. Like he's such a sure tackler,
• 49:57
  even coming from depth. I had hoped that there once Poyer went. You
• 50:01
  know, my my biggest thing with Poyer and Hide, as much as I
• 50:05
  loved him, I think the miles on the tire started to show a little
• 50:07
  bit in twenty twenty three. I had hoped for whoever the new safety tandem
• 50:12
  was. I hope for more range from both of them, and I think
• 50:15
  Rap is fine in those two high alignments. You know, he had multiple
• 50:20
  good plays against Miami in Week eighteen from split field safety looks, you know,
• 50:25
  the interception and then the pass break up to play before. I want
• 50:29
  to think that's Cover two. The other one is two man. But I
• 50:31
  wanted a little more interchangeability, Like I wanted a safety that you could put
• 50:36
  in the post and let him live, you know, as the deep safety
• 50:38
  at single high and cover one and or Cover three. I think you can
• 50:43
  do that from time to time, but that's not really where he's going to
• 50:46
  succeed. So a lot of my happiness for the Rap signing will be tied
• 50:52
  to who his running mate is at the other safety spot, Like do you
• 50:55
  pair him with more of a you know, truer even though we're kind of
• 50:59
  we moved away from this, but more of a truer like free safety type.
• 51:02
  Do you pair him with more of a rangier sideline to sideline type of
• 51:06
  guy, Because again, in a vacuum. The rap last year came in
• 51:08
  on a one year, one point seven million dollar deal with the Bills.
• 51:12
  This year it's a three year ten point six The cap hits are very very
• 51:15
  low even next year too, Like if things don't work out in twenty twenty
• 51:21
  four and the Bills want to cut Bait, he can get cut next year
• 51:22
  and it's only a dead cap hit a one point three million, and you
• 51:25
  say basically three point one, So essentially it's a one year deal still,
• 51:30
  even though it's like wrapped up in a shiny three year package. I do
• 51:34
  like some of what he brings. I still think his best football is playing
• 51:37
  him closer to the line of scrimmage, and I do wonder do we see
• 51:43
  any more, like do we see more single high alignments from them this year?
• 51:45
  Potentially? That's really where my head is at. It's from a schematic
• 51:49
  perspective. I'm very focused on who do you pair him with, because I
• 51:53
  don't think he has the range to consistently be in those single high alignments like
• 51:58
  Micah Hi did, Michael I did, and Jordan Poyer for the majority of
• 52:01
  his career, like before the miles started to show, you could put him
• 52:05
  in a single high spot too. That's what made him and Hide such an
• 52:07
  amazing tandem because even though Poyer was more strong safety and Hide was more free,
• 52:13
  they basically could do both remove the label and they're each just the safety.
• 52:16
  So I like the deal for the value is what it is and what
• 52:20
  I think he still can be. But from a schematic perspective, I do
• 52:23
  have questions in terms of the coverages. They rely on what they do on
• 52:28
  the back end, especially with a secondary that you know Trey White has gone.
• 52:30
  I really like Benford and I like Douglas, but there are some questions
• 52:34
  on this new group fitting together. I wish both safeties had more range.
• 52:38
  But depending on who they bring in to play free safety or the other safety
• 52:43
  opposite of him, I think that'll change my mind one way or the other,
• 52:45
  positively or negatively. But that's really where my head is at. Like
• 52:49
  I need to see who his running mate is going to be in safety.
• 52:52
  Do you think that they're gonna run a lot of one high type looks.
• 52:57
  I tend to think they're going to live in a lot of split safety.
• 53:00
  There's a lot of quarterwash which mitigates some of that. You'd love to be
• 53:05
  able to do it. But I hear that as a limitation. I'm certainly
• 53:10
  mindful of it. I just wonder how much it's gonna it's gonna matter,
• 53:15
  because I don't think they're gonna ask him to do it. Yeah, and
• 53:17
  so that's like, so then you're looking at that. I wonder from the
• 53:21
  single high perspective of like, I like him coming down as that robber or
• 53:25
  that buzz safety or that like sky safety. I really like him in that
• 53:29
  role. But to your point, like, as long as he's not the
• 53:32
  post safety in any single high alignment, I'm really fine. I just think
• 53:36
  that means you have to live in those spots more, which again is also
• 53:38
  fine considering the majority of time this defense is in cover two or quarters or
• 53:44
  some aspect like. But just what his skill set brings. I wonder who
• 53:47
  they pair him with. I don't think it's like the worst thing in the
• 53:50
  world again, and two, if it is the worst thing in the world,
• 53:52
  cool, it's one year and goodbye. But yeah, I do wonder
• 53:57
  who who they do pair him with, because it was it was an interesting
• 54:00
  deal for him. He was an also to your point, your initial contract
• 54:04
  projection, like I was just I was very surprised he was still on the
• 54:07
  market when he signed last year, and then seeing what he came in for,
• 54:09
  I was just like, oh, like even now coming back, I
• 54:13
  was like, Okay, I guess that's more in line with what he was
• 54:15
  what he came in for last year. But last year's safety market was weird
• 54:19
  what he signed for, what Chauncey Gardner Johnson signed for last year versus what
• 54:22
  he signed for this year. Safety Brandon Jones is getting paid crazy dollar Miles
• 54:28
  grandit's with the Broncos, Like, I don't know, Like the safety market
• 54:30
  is is a weird one. Real quick, Joe, we got a super
• 54:34
  chaff and Carl Carl is one of our you know, consistent supporters here on
• 54:37
  the show and the brand in general. So Carl, appreciate you being here.
• 54:39
  Thank you very much of the super chat. Carl says, evening,
• 54:42
  guys here here for the sport for cover one. But he has a question.
• 54:45
  He says, will the Dawkins, Edwards McGovern Torrance Brown line be the
• 54:51
  starting line or will a free agent or draft pick be in there? Joe,
• 54:55
  I'll go first here real quick. I think that is your kind of
• 54:58
  penciled in starting group as of now, I think you're looking at more free
• 55:02
  agent auxiliary pieces from a depth perspective and kind of supporting the group. Maybe
• 55:08
  you see something crazy happen in the draft, again, like I didn't think
• 55:12
  Osiris Torrance was necessarily going to be there for the Bills to take in Round
• 55:15
  two last year, and he fell, So maybe something wonky or wild happens,
• 55:17
  a shift shifts things around. But I do think that you're starting five
• 55:22
  for the twenty twenty four season as of now. I agree. I think
• 55:24
  that's the plan. They that the interior offensive line market has really dried up
• 55:31
  significantly here, and then are they going to draft the player and feel like
• 55:37
  they're a better option right now than Edwards. I don't know. So this
• 55:42
  is my expectation at this point in time, and especially knowing how much Aaron
• 55:45
  Cromer is familiar with David Edwards, how much he likes him, how well
• 55:49
  Edwards does in that system, Like Dawkins isn't going anywhere, McGovern isn't anywhere
• 55:52
  going anywhere, Torrens and Brown probably aren't going anywhere either, and Edwards is
• 55:57
  maybe the biggest wild card. But given his history with Chromer and his performance,
• 56:01
  I don't see it happening stick stick in that safety group. Cam Lewis
• 56:05
  comes back, two year, four million dollar deal. He there was some
• 56:08
  rumblings, grumblings, I guess grumblings makes it sound negative rumblings from the fan
• 56:13
  base to see him get more of those third state like that third safety rotation
• 56:17
  in reps last year instead of Taylor rap. But he gives you some of
• 56:22
  that safety versatility, some nickel versatility can function in some man roles. You
• 56:25
  know, he had some really good coverage reps and man against the Cowboys last
• 56:29
  year. What are your thoughts on him coming back happy with the depth?
• 56:32
  Does it you know, does it not matter? Like throwing a deck chair
• 56:35
  off the Titanic? What do you think? Yeah, I think there's some
• 56:37
  people that are a little bit unnecessarily panicking here. It's two years, four
• 56:40
  million dollars, a two million AAV at a minimum. You have a player
• 56:46
  that has been trained to play every single position in your secondary and has been
• 56:50
  a core special team or for you. That's that's the floor there. The
• 56:53
  ceiling is that with more opportunity, with a clearer path, he can do
• 56:59
  more for you from scrimmage and you know, maybe you do have an answer
• 57:02
  here on an economic contract, So I don't really see the downside. I
• 57:07
  think he's been a glue piece of for the team. And you know,
• 57:12
  not every single players Jordan Player and Micah Hyde and Trey White like you need
• 57:15
  players like this to fill out your roster. He brings a lot of value
• 57:19
  with all that he can do. I'm completely satisfied with cam Lewis. And
• 57:24
  you know, if you told me that they're going to pencil him in as
• 57:28
  a starter next to Taylor Rap, draft some guy in the fourth one,
• 57:30
  fourth round and then DeMar Hamlin's the other, I'm not gonna love that,
• 57:34
  right if that's your four safeties. So until that's the plan, I'm good
• 57:37
  with it. Same same boat. I like him that he can give you
• 57:40
  some safety depth. I know that you know and the common cot mentioned here
• 57:45
  by k Mory, like people only remember him for that player lector on Justin
• 57:50
  Jefferson, But yeah, he was in position to make the play. He
• 57:53
  was right there. He was the best ball winner in the NFL. Won
• 57:59
  the ball like the guy who wins the ball from everyone won the ball Like
• 58:04
  it's unfortunate. But yeah, I also think that one too, Like everyone's
• 58:07
  always like, I don't want to like turn the conversation because I know sensitive
• 58:12
  people get but it's always like, man, because cam Lewis blew that game,
• 58:15
  Josh Allen fumbled the snap. If Josh Allen doesn't fumble the ball,
• 58:17
  that game's done. Like why do we not even go to that? But
• 58:21
  again, the conversation for another time. But yeah, I like the cam
• 58:24
  Lewis depth option. I like that he gives you some safety depth. I
• 58:28
  like that he gives you some nickel depth. It's so hard to have functional
• 58:30
  depth depth everywhere, but nickel depth has always scared me for the past several
• 58:36
  years. I love Taron Johnson and what he does. I'm always just terrified
• 58:39
  of who steps in for him if he goes down because of how integral he
• 58:45
  is to the defense and how multifaceted he is in playing that role, and
• 58:50
  for even you know, as much beligned as he may be by the fan
• 58:52
  base at times, how he plays the run, and how he can play
• 58:55
  in coverage from a man in his own perspective, he does so much and
• 59:00
  cam Lewis doesn't completely mitigate my worries. And I don't think any depth guy
• 59:05
  really will for a position that again, is so multifaceted, but you know,
• 59:08
  the coaching staff knows who he is and what he is. We've seen
• 59:13
  what he can be. I also think he's nice from like just a roster
• 59:16
  management perspective, like you have a special teamer, a depth safety, a
• 59:21
  guy who can play in the slot and potentially play on the outside like in
• 59:23
  some really dire scenarios, all wrapped up into one package. Like that saves
• 59:28
  you roster space and money to go bring in other guys who maybe have more
• 59:31
  of a siloed or more of a niche roll, so you can get more
• 59:35
  scheme specific or schematic diverse, dependent on kind of what you want to do.
• 59:38
  Yeah, similar boat, cheap guy who's been here his whole career.
• 59:43
  Like I don't want him to be the day one starting safety opposite of Taylor
• 59:47
  Rap, but yeah, fine for the depth and what he is. Similar
• 59:52
  kind of conversation potentially coming in for Nicholas Morrow. The announced signing today coming
• 59:55
  over from the Philadelphia Eagles. I guess I I kind of tapped out of
• 1:00:00
  social media this afternoon, but I guess some people are really upset that he
• 1:00:05
  got brought in, Like people hate the signing, which for a depth linebacker.
• 1:00:09
  I don't know why I have some thoughts, but you know, you're
• 1:00:13
  the guest. What are your thoughts on on Nicholas Morroll coming in? People
• 1:00:15
  are going to find a reason to hate everything, man like. It's it's
• 1:00:20
  what makes the social media thing so exhausting to me terrible. So what do
• 1:00:24
  I think about Nicholas morro I? I like the signing. There was a
• 1:00:29
  few years ago where I think we all feared Matt Molano could be gone in
• 1:00:31
  free agency. He was on my short list of players that I would like
• 1:00:35
  from the from the Raiders. Yeah, totally would have been fine with that.
• 1:00:39
  Is so a few years later he comes in to be in competition to
• 1:00:43
  be linebacker three, which I think is a good spot for him. I
• 1:00:46
  think he fits very much the matchup linebackers that Bobby Babache has openly spoken about
• 1:00:53
  how they want that style of linebacker, and so I think he positions you
• 1:00:59
  a lot better if you were to lose a Bernard or a Milano to have
• 1:01:04
  more of a stylistic player that could do similar things as opposed to all right,
• 1:01:08
  we have a thump or in Tyroll Dotson, but he can't play in
• 1:01:10
  space or cover, so we got to do all these different things to make
• 1:01:14
  up for that. I think you have a lot cleaner of a transition if
• 1:01:16
  that's necessary, which I think is important. I like that what he started
• 1:01:21
  twelve games last year for the Eagles, he wore the green dot, which
• 1:01:23
  is no small feat. I think that's an important thing to point out.
• 1:01:29
  But I also feel like it's necessary competition for Dorian Williams. I think you
• 1:01:34
  should be excited about Dorian Williams. He's a fast, physical young football player,
• 1:01:37
  but boy, oh boy, does he need some work processing And I
• 1:01:42
  feel like there's no way that he should have went into twenty twenty four as
• 1:01:46
  the assumed LB three with Baylen Specter as the LB four, Like come on,
• 1:01:52
  like, let's be real about this. He needs competition, and I
• 1:01:54
  think Nicholas Morrow absolutely provides that. He has a robust back round on special
• 1:02:00
  teams. Even last year, as he started twelve games for the Eagles,
• 1:02:02
  he played a ton of special team snap. So I don't know what more
• 1:02:06
  can you ask for in a depth linebacker other than a guy that has experienced
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  has worn the green dot as the capability of filling in for your two lead
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  linebackers because he doesn't have the athletic deficiencies of what you had to deal with
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  in the past, and you get meaningful competition for your LB three. Like
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  if you're mad about that, then you just choose to be mad at everything
• 1:02:28
  and you want to cry about the next thing that happens. I don't even
• 1:02:30
  want to say anything about him because you nailed it so well. But yeah,
• 1:02:34
  like the zec sambo for me, and even just some like numbers,
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  right like amongst ninety qualifying linebackers versus the run last year in twenty twenty three,
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  he was tied for twenty first and stops, tied for nineteenth and stop
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  percentage. He also had a mistackle percentage of four point four percent, which
• 1:02:50
  was the fourteenth lowest. And again he's going to be a death guy who's
• 1:02:52
  competing for that third or fourth linebacker spot. And I love your comments there
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  on Dorry Williams, and I understand the excitement around him because again his traits
• 1:03:01
  and what he represents. But and I've continued, I feel like shout it
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  from the rooftops because people just I guess don't see it enough. But like
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  the defense he came from at Tulane. It was going to take him some
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  time to acclimate to NFL coverages and NFL style of defenses and execut your point.
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  You saw struggles for him in that department from a processing perspective, being
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  misled with his eyes, not being able to play fast because he was trying
• 1:03:25
  to diagnose what he was seeing in front of him. The Patriots and the
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  Giants really had a field day with him at times, kind of manipulating him
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  and leaving him, you know, kind of to you know, left to
• 1:03:37
  his own devices, which was kind of putting himself into no man's land.
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  And I really hope he's linebacker three next year. I hope he or this
• 1:03:44
  year. I hope he continues to develop and when they go more base and
• 1:03:46
  three linebacker personnel, boom, he's that guy. But it's a really nice
• 1:03:52
  potential safety net to have a linebacker who is that good against the run,
• 1:03:55
  who has green dot experience, who has functional starting for playoff caliber teams year
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  after year. There's no downside to that. Like, if he's your linebacker
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  three, cool, If he's linebacker four cool, it's a one year deal.
• 1:04:09
  And I also like with his play style, if something happens to Bernardo
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  Mlano, it's terrible, but knowing how he functions against the run and some
• 1:04:15
  of the athleticism that he does have, like that's an okay pairing. It's
• 1:04:20
  much better than what their linebacker three was last year with Tyrol Dodson to your
• 1:04:24
  point, And even though Dodson I think played admirably considering what the expectations were
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  potentially for him going into that season and what the drop off was gonna look
• 1:04:33
  like with Milano out. Yeah, I actually really like this a lot from
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  a depth sign, Like you have a linebacker with all these starting reps and
• 1:04:43
  all this experience and special team experience like you said, and a guy who
• 1:04:45
  knows how to play and live and succeed with teams in the NFL. There's
• 1:04:51
  no downside of that. And if Dorny Williams beats him out, cool you
• 1:04:55
  win. If Dorny and Williams still isn't ready yet, cool, you have
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  moral right there to be your lineback three, and then maybe it's the next
• 1:05:01
  year for joining. There's no there's no downside these depths depth moves that always
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  get criticized so much to your point, like I don't get it, like
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  they're not bringing him in to like b linebacker three or and see all these
• 1:05:13
  snaps, or be a starter, like that's a really great depth guy,
• 1:05:15
  Like I'd rather have him as depth over Balen Spector. Well, it's he's
• 1:05:19
  not Derrick Henry. He's not Curtis Samuel or whatever player Daniil Hunter or whatever
• 1:05:25
  player people are romanticizing over that absolutely don't fit within the Bills cap structure.
• 1:05:30
  That's the problem. That's that's what he's guilty of. He's guilty of not
• 1:05:33
  being Derek Henry. And that's what it goes back to my point. I
• 1:05:38
  know at Oliver has had some rough homents, but it goes back to mat
• 1:05:41
  Doli everything. Every time he struggles, everyone's like, well, I was
• 1:05:43
  told that he was the next Aaron Donald, and it's like, no one
• 1:05:46
  is the next Aaron Donald. He's one of the best football players of all
• 1:05:49
  time. All Right, Joe, we've covered a lot of the movement and
• 1:05:53
  shaken over these rough roughly last seven days, with the exodus of players last
• 1:05:56
  week and then the guys who were brought in these past couple of days.
• 1:06:00
  Looking forward, what's on your mind, you know, going forward as free
• 1:06:03
  agency continues, is there one thing is it several things? Is there's something
• 1:06:08
  that sticks above you know, everything else for you? In his prime number
• 1:06:12
  one urgency point, where's your mind at? As we continue to go forward
• 1:06:15
  in this week and really going forward in general, when it comes to free
• 1:06:17
  agency for this Bills team, Well, I have a to do list for
• 1:06:20
  mister Brandon Bean. He's filled some of the he's checked some of the boxes,
• 1:06:25
  He's still got some to check and so the most important remaining boxes to
• 1:06:30
  check for me are a wide receiver, right, I think they need another
• 1:06:36
  receiver. What's interesting about that is I'm gonna say wide receiver too, but
• 1:06:44
  I don't really mean wide receiver too, because I feel like it's more about
• 1:06:47
  your options in the passing game. Digs is the one in Cag's, the
• 1:06:50
  two Shakir's, the three cooks, probably the four right, and then that
• 1:06:55
  doesn't even include how much running the ball we'll see we cook and all that,
• 1:06:59
  so, which is also another option. So I just need a guy
• 1:07:01
  that could play on the line of scrimmage, that maybe has some vertical ability
• 1:07:04
  that can block right then maybe gets fifty to seventy targets. Like That's all
• 1:07:08
  I'm looking for. So that type of player. His name could be Donovan
• 1:07:12
  Peoples Jones, his name could be Nick Westbrook. I keine something like that.
• 1:07:15
  That doesn't preclude the desire that I would have for the Bills of draft
• 1:07:17
  a wide receiver early. But I think they need a wide receiver. I
• 1:07:20
  think they need another starting safety. I think they need more defensive end depth.
• 1:07:25
  I think they need a lot of defensive tackle depth. I think you
• 1:07:28
  have a lot of snaps avaliable at defensive tackle. You know, even even
• 1:07:32
  if you were to say that at Oliver plays sixty five to seventy percent of
• 1:07:35
  the snaps, Daikwon Jones plays fifty to sixty percent of the snaps, you
• 1:07:40
  got a lot to fill in there. So defensive tackle depth RB two and
• 1:07:45
  three, you need to figure that out, and then it's just really from
• 1:07:47
  there, it's just like more even further down the list depth positions. But
• 1:07:51
  I think the focuses are that receiver, another starting safety, defensive end depth,
• 1:07:57
  defensive tackle depth, and filling out your running back depth or similar about
• 1:08:00
  for myself and I really love the wide receiver two point that you made.
• 1:08:04
  I tweeted it out earlier today. I've said multiple aspects of it, like
• 1:08:06
  it's wide receiver too from a depth chart perspective, But that does not mean
• 1:08:11
  target number two or priority number two. You need someone exactly your point,
• 1:08:15
  Like, just give me someone who can win one on one. I want
• 1:08:18
  someone the example I'm always gonna give. I want someone who you can put
• 1:08:21
  on the backside of the formation when Digs and Shaki and Kincaid are in a
• 1:08:26
  trip set to the other side, I want that one receiver on the backside
• 1:08:30
  to make the defense go. Can our guy can our corner handle him back
• 1:08:34
  there? Like, are we gonna be in trouble with one on one?
• 1:08:36
  You know what, screw it. We'll live with it and see what happens.
• 1:08:39
  And then I want that guy to eat. I just want someone who
• 1:08:41
  can win in a one on one fashion. Ideally, I like as a
• 1:08:44
  complete of a receiver as possible, someone who can win with speed and route
• 1:08:46
  running and who has some ball winning ability. But just that guy who can
• 1:08:50
  win in a one on one fashion, who can also function as a blocker
• 1:08:54
  in the run game. And it's wide receiver too, But exactly your point,
• 1:08:58
  that does not mean it's target number two. Given the construction of this
• 1:09:00
  roster on offense, safety safety is really up there for me. As each
• 1:09:06
  day goes on, I continue to get more and more like desperate, and
• 1:09:10
  I just want to be like, just throw all the money at Justin Simmons.
• 1:09:12
  I don't care. Just sign Justin Simmons, I don't care. Just
• 1:09:14
  take them. I am again because it's tied to that Taylor rat piece and
• 1:09:18
  the defense as a whole, with how important higher hide employed have been to
• 1:09:25
  this defense. I mean, I think it's no coincidence that as this team
• 1:09:29
  has kind of pulled itself out of the drought, it's coincided with this rise
• 1:09:32
  of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer as these perennial like all pro safety type of
• 1:09:35
  candidates, and them also kind of leading that movement of like an interchangeable,
• 1:09:40
  positionless type of safety piece in regards to free and strong. So that's up
• 1:09:44
  there with you know things for me as well. Running back I'm really interested
• 1:09:46
  to see because I think I like the idea of getting like an RB two
• 1:09:50
  or RB three on Day three in the draft and then having somebody under cost
• 1:09:56
  control for forty years, Like it seems to be a position you can continuously
• 1:09:59
  like replenished. Unfortunately for some of the running backs who seek like bigger contracts.
• 1:10:02
  But yeah, that's a sneaky one that needs to be addressed. And
• 1:10:06
  I for me again similar Bolt, like you said, like I just all
• 1:10:10
  this defensive line depth just needs to start coming in. It's awesome that Daikwon
• 1:10:14
  came back. It's awesome that Ajpanessa came back. Cool. Now they have
• 1:10:16
  eight defensive linemen under contract. That's it. Even if all eight were all
• 1:10:21
  pros and studs, you would still need to bring in guys. But all
• 1:10:26
  eight are not all pros and studs because some of those guys are you know,
• 1:10:29
  no disrespect Cameron Klein and Ilion Ku and Von Miller still has a bit
• 1:10:32
  of a question around him in terms of what he's going to be for twenty
• 1:10:35
  twenty four, even though he flashed positively down the stretch in twenty twenty three.
• 1:10:40
  So yeah, they have to continue to really replenish that depth aspect.
• 1:10:44
  I think really on both lines too, I would like to see another veteran
• 1:10:47
  presence brought in on the offensive line, ideally with some positional flexibility if you
• 1:10:51
  can have it, Like I'd love another version of a David Edwards or Ryan
• 1:10:55
  Bates right around the corner to be offensive lineman six or offensive lineman seven for
• 1:11:00
  you even with you know Alec Anderson emerging, Like I just I think you
• 1:11:03
  can never have enough offensive lineman and never have enough corners, and so just
• 1:11:06
  bring me some of that corner is also one too? Like is Kyrie Elum
• 1:11:12
  CB three cool? If he is, you still need a corner four?
• 1:11:15
  Do you are you still iffy on Kyri Elum three? Okay, he's corner
• 1:11:17
  four? Then do you need a corner three? Like all these kind of
• 1:11:21
  depth pieces, after you need that wide receiver two, and that's starting safety
• 1:11:26
  to be addressed, you really get into a whole bunch of depth and a
• 1:11:29
  whole bunch of pieces going forward, and then that obviously sets us up into
• 1:11:32
  draft time as we go forward. Joe, any final thoughts or parting words
• 1:11:38
  of wisdom for the people before you go on your merry way. If you're
• 1:11:44
  disappointed that the Bills haven't made a big splash in free agency, I would
• 1:11:46
  invite you to examine the contracts over the last four years that have been handed
• 1:11:51
  out in free agency that are north of eight million dollars AAV and just it's
• 1:11:58
  very sobering. It's a big remind of how much of this just flops?
• 1:12:00
  You know, teams are desperate, Like, look at the teams that are
• 1:12:03
  out there handing out big money. The Panthers, the Commanders, the Titans,
• 1:12:11
  yep, the Raiders, these are these are these are twenty twelve bills
• 1:12:15
  teams, you know what I mean? Fighting to stay relevant. They need
• 1:12:19
  their splashes, they need to do things to keep their fans interested. They're
• 1:12:23
  not serious football teams. Serious football teams understand to draft and develop, They
• 1:12:29
  understand to find value in free agency, and folks, there hasn't been value.
• 1:12:32
  If you've been watching this, Everyone's out there surging, trying to get
• 1:12:35
  their primary targets, offering all the money in the world. Smart football teams
• 1:12:40
  don't do that. And so you got did you love your Von Miller splash?
• 1:12:44
  How's that working out for you? Right? Like, like, let's
• 1:12:46
  let's let this play out. Let's play the value game. Brandon Bean's best
• 1:12:50
  work came later in the form of like a Leonard Floyd, Like the Brandon
• 1:12:57
  Bean's job isn't to have the roster perfect right now. Frequency really doesn't even
• 1:13:00
  start till tomorrow at four o'clock. Let's let this play out. See the
• 1:13:04
  entire puzzle. And remember that Josh Allen's still the quarterback. Love it,
• 1:13:09
  and we've seen that kind of year after year. When Bean has been most
• 1:13:12
  successful, it's letting that market come to him. And again, that's what
• 1:13:15
  successful football teams do. These teams that go out and make these huge flashes,
• 1:13:18
  they're in the position too because they probably don't have a lot of guys
• 1:13:23
  that they're paying that are good football players, and they're trying to hang their
• 1:13:26
  head onto something for their fan base, and so maybe you're seeing some overpayment,
• 1:13:30
  but you're seeing teams that have to be that aggressive because the commanders are
• 1:13:33
  trying to turn around their football team and signing backup players to starter money,
• 1:13:40
  like the joke, because they still have to prove that they're not the laughing
• 1:13:44
  stock of the NFL, even if Daniel Snyder is not their owner, and
• 1:13:47
  they're playing that's what they have to do. Yep. And you're playing in
• 1:13:49
  division with the Giants and the Cowboys and the Eagles and all these names and
• 1:13:54
  the teams that get the national spotlight, and you feel that you have to
• 1:13:57
  compete, which you do, and then you're also like that you're competing against
• 1:14:00
  yourself because you're trying to get out from that horrible shadow of Daniel Schnyder from
• 1:14:05
  all those years, both on and off the field. So then you have
• 1:14:09
  to overcompensate a little bit and hand out the money that they've handed out.
• 1:14:12
  And yeah, it's I would have loved on day one or yesterday, you
• 1:14:16
  know, bills come out and just sign everybody that was on my wish list
• 1:14:20
  and everything was done and dusted, and we could sit here and talk about
• 1:14:23
  like twelve names and be like, hey, the roster set. Now,
• 1:14:27
  let's have a fun conversation about the draft. It's not realistic. That's not
• 1:14:30
  how it works. It also doesn't mean being and crew are not being active
• 1:14:33
  like you gotta let the market come to you. That's how you play it
• 1:14:35
  smart, replenish through the pipeline and the draft, which obviously will be an
• 1:14:40
  important piece going forward. I'm going to truy, I'm going to trudge on
• 1:14:44
  on this show. But Joe, you've been here for a significant point of
• 1:14:46
  time. You're an up and adham early morning kind of guy. I am
• 1:14:49
  to a degree as well, but you beat me by like another hour or
• 1:14:53
  so every morning. So I'm gonna let you go. I appreciate you taking
• 1:14:55
  the time for joining me. The floor is yours. You're amazing. I
• 1:14:59
  appreciate the how I you tell everybody where they can find you, what you
• 1:15:01
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• 1:15:03
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  one from Kmorey. The dislike comp pick shafting. So you know, and
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  just in case people don't know, like the compic formula is basically like the
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  Krabby Patty Secret formula, Like nobody really knows what it is, and Plankton's
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  already always trying to get his hands on it. But from the people who
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  whose job it is to predict and project what the comppicks will be, it
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  very much looked like the Bills were gonna get a third for Tremaine Edmonds.
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  They did not. They got a fourth. Then the NFL came out the
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  day after a today or yesterday and redid you know we made a mistake and
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  gave the Bengals like a third after originally giving them a six. I don't
• 1:18:46
  understand how the Bills did not get a third. I was legitimately counting on
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  it. I am legitimately disappointed and pissed off that they did not get it.
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  I also think this kind of throws, like, not a huge wrench,
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  but somewhat of a wrench into terms of their draft plan and draft strategy
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  based on who would have been there at that anticipated spot in the third round
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  versus who will be there at there and now confirmed spot in the fourth Frustrated,
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  Yeah, I don't get it. And again, it's not it's not
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  a known in like public systems, so you can be like, well,
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  no, like, let me fact check you and realize why it's screwed because
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  it's a secret. It's a secret formula. It's the Grabby Patty secret formula,
• 1:19:26
  so nobody knows. Yeah. Absolutely infuriating, and the Bills are electric
• 1:19:29
  says how the hell did the Bengals drop from a six to a third?
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  I don't know. I as soon as I read this tweet that was like,
• 1:19:33
  oh, the NFL will be making adjustments to the cop I just immediately
• 1:19:38
  scrolled to the bottom because I assumed it was going to talk about the Bills,
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  and again even that, like the Bengals are jumping, I just don't
• 1:19:44
  get it. I don't get it, and it's extremely disappointing for a team
• 1:19:45
  that, again, a fourth round pick has nothing to sneeze at. There's
• 1:19:49
  a big difference between a third and a fourth, especially given where the Bills
• 1:19:54
  were going to be projected for it, and especially considering where Tremaine Edmonds went
• 1:20:00
  for how much like he I think I have to go back to it,
• 1:20:02
  but like he signed a big year contract. I think Joe said it like
• 1:20:05
  average eighteen million average annual value, but I think it was the most guaranteed
• 1:20:09
  money for a linebacker of all time, Like he got paid handsomely. Everything
• 1:20:14
  that we knew about compics made it seem like it was gonna be a third
• 1:20:15
  and it was not disappointing and frustrating and to you know, the conversation to
• 1:20:21
  some of you guys like, yeah, I think Bean was expecting a third
• 1:20:25
  and I hope that doesn't derail them too much, but definitely definitely a frustrating
• 1:20:29
  aspect to see that Justin says that, uh, Chin signing was a bummer.
• 1:20:34
  Yeah, Jeremy Chin goes to Washington because apparently, you know, or
• 1:20:40
  reportedly, he liked what Dan Quinn, Washington head coach, previously defensive quarteraor
• 1:20:46
  for the Dallas Cowboys. He liked what Quinn did in Dallas, so he
• 1:20:49
  moves on to Washington. I think a one year deal up to five million.
• 1:20:54
  My biggest thing with that always is like, because my head immediately goes
• 1:20:58
  to like, oh, I wish the Bills would have given it one year,
• 1:21:00
  like up to five million. Maybe the Bills didn't want to. Also,
• 1:21:03
  the thing we always never think about, maybe it's the player, Like
• 1:21:05
  maybe the Bills offered him like two years and twelve million, and he was
• 1:21:09
  like, no, I want to go to Washington. So either way to
• 1:21:11
  disappointment, I wanted to see Chin here in Buffalo. I have ever since
• 1:21:15
  he was coming out in the draft back in twenty twenty. So I'm a
• 1:21:18
  little disappointed for sure, but them so the breaks, Tim comes through and
• 1:21:24
  says he's disappointed that not the Bills didn't get either Darnell Mooney or Noah Brown.
• 1:21:29
  He says not getting either of them really hurt. Yeah, I as
• 1:21:31
  you folks know, whether you follow me on Twitter or here on the show
• 1:21:34
  or watch me with Eric Turner in the film room. I really wanted Noah
• 1:21:39
  Brown. I would have been okay with Mooney. I really like Noah Brown,
• 1:21:42
  especially for what I thought the anticipated cost was going to be. He
• 1:21:44
  was another one too. I think I think his is a one year,
• 1:21:48
  five up to five million dollar like it's it's small, or maybe two years
• 1:21:53
  someone in that range. I have five million average annual value. It's something
• 1:21:56
  like slim pickings that I projected that he could be had for. But I
• 1:22:00
  understand him going back to Houston. They have a sweet offense, really good
• 1:22:03
  coaching staff. They're building something special there. He already knows the facility and
• 1:22:08
  the city and already lives there. Like, I get it him going back,
• 1:22:11
  But I was definitely sad and I wanted he was on my wish list,
• 1:22:14
  and I really wanted him to come to Buffalo. Mooney, I would
• 1:22:15
  have understood him coming, but I didn't want him as much as Brown.
• 1:22:18
  But I feel you I'm not getting either. Justin as is Cam Kitchens Safety
• 1:22:25
  from Miami a fit with Rap Yes, I think Cam Kitchens can be a
• 1:22:29
  fit with anybody, because I think he can do a lot of things on
• 1:22:32
  that back end. I think you can play him as a single high post
• 1:22:34
  safety. I think you can play him as a two high safety almost any
• 1:22:39
  coverage. You can playhim in man coverage he can match. He can play
• 1:22:42
  zone and spot drop man match his own match. Coming forward, he does
• 1:22:45
  a lot. I really love Cam Kitchens. A good example to go look
• 1:22:51
  up. If you're on Twitter. Just type into the search bot, type
• 1:22:56
  in like Cam Kitchens versus Louisville, or putting into Google or you Tube or
• 1:23:00
  whatever, and you'll watch him have this interception against Louisville this past season where
• 1:23:02
  he's playing that post safety and the quarterback isn't even too late. But the
• 1:23:05
  quarterback snaps it, tries to hold him, throws a seam ball to the
• 1:23:10
  right and he's not too late on this throw and Cam just post jumps the
• 1:23:15
  hell out of it, jumps the singing picks it off like it kind of
• 1:23:17
  showcases that range. I know he ran slow at the combine. I'm gonna
• 1:23:23
  say this all off season. Please, please please do not think that that
• 1:23:27
  four six five forty is indicative of how fast Cam Kitchens plays. He is
• 1:23:31
  not slow. He plays fast physically and mentally on the field. So I
• 1:23:36
  absolutely think Cam Kinchenes is a fit with Taylor Rap. I think he would
• 1:23:40
  fit with a lot of people. Those are our lecture saying, what's the
• 1:23:43
  best guess roughly of our cap space by four pm. I'll be honest with
• 1:23:46
  you. I haven't dove into it. I got to see what the moral
• 1:23:50
  deal was. I don't remember what the Allen restructure was off the top of
• 1:23:54
  my head. I have to see what Dawkins's move cleared for money. See
• 1:24:00
  all the moves that they're making or agreements they've come to yesterday and today are
• 1:24:03
  because they know they're going to be, you know, over the cap.
• 1:24:05
  If I had to guess pure guests, I'm thinking probably like eight to ten
• 1:24:13
  million dollars of space with all these moves kind of like factored in is what
• 1:24:16
  my thought is so comfortable and okay, obviously not as ideal as you'd like
• 1:24:19
  to be, but I think that's kind of where where they're at. What
• 1:24:26
  else? What else? Oh, Carl coming in saying, after all he
• 1:24:31
  has been for us, I don't like the hate that Jordan Poyer is getting
• 1:24:34
  for accepting a contract with the Dolphins. I understand the cut, and I'm
• 1:24:38
  sorry to see him go, but Poe wants to play, Yeah, I
• 1:24:41
  don't. I don't hate that at all. My thing with it all,
• 1:24:45
  and I understand the emotion of it. But I will never be upset at
• 1:24:49
  a player choosing to sign somewhere else. Like, I know, they're professional
• 1:24:54
  athletes, and you know the fandom attached to it and the entertainment piece,
• 1:24:59
  But at the end of the day, like this is their job. And
• 1:25:00
  granted it's a high profile job and it's a game, and they're paid to
• 1:25:03
  like play a game, you know, quote unquote, but it's still a
• 1:25:08
  job for them. And so I'm never gonna rake somebody over the Cols for
• 1:25:11
  wanting to play in a certain city or chase money or do something, especially
• 1:25:15
  in this instance too, like Poyer got cut by the Bill. So if
• 1:25:17
  anything, like even if he wanted to, like you know what, I'm
• 1:25:20
  going to Miami just so I can stick it to Buffalo, he can do
• 1:25:23
  that, the Bills cut him. I'd be pissed if I was Jordan Poyer.
• 1:25:26
  Maybe not, maybe because there's some things that happened behind the scenes that
• 1:25:30
  I don't know. But I'd be pissed if I was Poyer, Like I
• 1:25:32
  understand being frustrated. Like he essentially got fired kind of from the Buffalo Bill,
• 1:25:38
  so he's free to go wherever he wants. I don't hate him going
• 1:25:42
  to Miami, like, do you get paid, enjoy the weather down there,
• 1:25:45
  whatever you want to do. I also, again, I don't want
• 1:25:48
  to jinx anything. I do think the miles were showing on the tires for
• 1:25:51
  him last year, so that's not a move where he goes to Miami and
• 1:25:55
  I'm like, oh no, we have to face Jordan Poyer twice a year,
• 1:25:58
  you know, no disrespect. Nikki Gi saying I was looking at that
• 1:26:02
  yesterday before the adjustments, but like being made a trade based off getting a
• 1:26:06
  third. Oh yeah, I was thinking of that, the Russell Douglas trade.
• 1:26:09
  You trade that third thinking you're probably gonna get a third back. Little
• 1:26:12
  annoying. Oh I didn't actually know this for the deal, Jeffrey coming in
• 1:26:15
  saying it was a two million, one year deal for Jordan Poort. I
• 1:26:17
  didn't know that, man, So he only got two million from Miami.
• 1:26:21
  Ooh oo oo oo oo ooh kind of schtewing on that. That's low.
• 1:26:28
  What them's the breaks? Yeah, Dylan coming in and saying, yeah,
• 1:26:31
  we pick a pick sixty and then have to wait until one twenty eight.
• 1:26:34
  Literally, No what he being doesn't trade up in swap picks? Yeah,
• 1:26:38
  he has so much Day three ammunition and a volume of picks. I don't
• 1:26:44
  think the Bills sit on all of that quantity. I think they looked at
• 1:26:47
  more quality one way or the other. I could see the Bills trading down
• 1:26:50
  on day one or Day two to acquire more Day two picks, or I
• 1:26:55
  could see them trading some of that Day three capital and trying to move up.
• 1:27:00
  Where are we? What else? What else? I'll say some love
• 1:27:04
  for Cam Curl coming through for some players who chosen one, saying Kaylen Bullock
• 1:27:10
  from USC would be a great range pairing. Absolutely, he ticks that box.
• 1:27:15
  So Kaylen Bullock's safety from USC, he ticks the range box post safety
• 1:27:18
  for days. Not a very good tackler has gotten better. I don't think
• 1:27:24
  he's still the same player that you know had that horrible clip against Utah two
• 1:27:28
  seasons ago. But he's not very good as a tackler and as like a
• 1:27:31
  physical player coming forward and you have to tackle in this Bill's defense, especially
• 1:27:35
  from the safety spot. So that's the only reason that scares me off a
• 1:27:39
  little bit. I haven't completely finished his evaluation, so he may be an
• 1:27:44
  even better tackler than I'm thinking, but tackling is a definite weakness for him.
• 1:27:47
  But the range is one thousand percent there. M oh, I gotta
• 1:27:54
  stop. This is awesome from Teddy. Teddy saying I'm just saying, hi,
• 1:27:57
  you're my favorite sports personality, and then the super chatted I do it.
• 1:28:00
  That's awesome, Thank you so much. That warms my heart. I
• 1:28:02
  kind of feel like there's nowhere to go back down from her, so I
• 1:28:04
  kind of want to stop the show. That's awesome. I appreciate you just
• 1:28:06
  being here watching the show, but also the super chat and then for the
• 1:28:10
  super kind words. That's awesome. Thank you so much. Jamal says,
• 1:28:15
  what if Buffalo gets a backup safety to start at the position. I'll be
• 1:28:18
  a little worried because I know safety is a bit devalued on the open market,
• 1:28:21
  but they need one. I mean this show being called Disguy's coverage.
• 1:28:25
  Kendall sitted earlier in the chat. It's called Disguy's coverage because of how the
• 1:28:30
  Bills. Dis guy's coverage is with their safeties and everything they do on the
• 1:28:32
  back end, So I think you need a legit player at that safety spot.
• 1:28:39
  M m m mmmm. Oh that's right. Good call from chosen one,
• 1:28:42
  saying honestly, I thought it was a pretty obvious signing once Poyer was
• 1:28:45
  cut, that he was going to Miami where he lives anyway, Plus there's
• 1:28:48
  no state tax. The state tax piece is huge, and I forgot,
• 1:28:51
  yeah that he lives in South Florida, so it makes it makes complete sense.
• 1:28:55
  I don't think there's any animosity like he did it to stick to the
• 1:28:59
  Bills. But again, even if he did, dude, that's you like
• 1:29:01
  a these any any snap on the practice field, in training camp, in
• 1:29:10
  season, anything, in games, preseason, whatever, any snap can literally
• 1:29:15
  be your last or can drastically change the trajectory of your career. So I
• 1:29:18
  have no problem with any decision that any player makes at any time. So
• 1:29:21
  even if Poyer went to chase money for a horrible team or he wanted to
• 1:29:25
  go somewhere just to stick to the Bills, I'd be fine. But again,
• 1:29:28
  even in this sense, like that's a great comment here, I think
• 1:29:30
  it just makes sense no state tax, he lives there, cool whatever?
• 1:29:33
  Oh yeah, and are just saying, yeah, he was going to go
• 1:29:35
  to Miami last year if they offered him more. So, who's going to
• 1:29:38
  go there. We'll see what he does. You know. Now he pairs
• 1:29:40
  with Javon Holland. We'll see what they do. You know, they they
• 1:29:44
  had an interesting safety group last year working in like I mean, Holland was
• 1:29:45
  banged up a bunch, but it was like Holland and Brandon Jones and Deshaun
• 1:29:48
  Elliott. So we'll see what they do. And now they're moving away from
• 1:29:53
  you know, Fangio, so we'll see. We'll see what happens there.
• 1:29:58
  Carl's saying Chin is a commander, yeah, and Chauncey Gardner Johnson is an
• 1:30:01
  Eagle. Is there a third safety and free agency that is a fit for
• 1:30:05
  the Bills? Oh, I forgot about Whitehead from the Jets. Honestly,
• 1:30:09
  I joked about it earlier. I don't know how much he's gonna cost.
• 1:30:14
  I really want the Bills to go after Justin Simmons. I think Simmons could
• 1:30:17
  be like an eleven or twelve million average annual value type of dude. I
• 1:30:21
  would do it for him, considering how good he is back like multiple All
• 1:30:26
  Pro seasons, He's been like a perennial All Pro candidate year after year.
• 1:30:30
  I think it's fit in this defense is tremendous. I really want to go
• 1:30:35
  after Justin Simmons, but let me pull up the free agent safety list and
• 1:30:45
  see who is still out there. Ahidy Jackson is still I'd be interested to
• 1:30:53
  see Quandre Diggs again. And if I'm saying any names that have signed since
• 1:30:58
  I went live tonight, you know, feel free to uh, somebody'd stop
• 1:31:00
  me in the chat and say, Quandre Diggs is a name that interests me.
• 1:31:05
  Bom boom boom. Mike Edwards is a name that interests me. M
• 1:31:15
  Ryan Neil, Ashton Davis, Adrian Amos Maybe but not ideal. Honestly,
• 1:31:23
  the safety market's a little scary. I know a bunch of people like Cameron
• 1:31:26
  Curl, I honestly would I'm looking at Justin Simmons and Quandrey Diggs again.
• 1:31:30
  Both of those dudes are gonna be a bit more high profile and a bit
• 1:31:34
  more of a quote unquote splash. But for me, it's Simmons, Digs,
• 1:31:39
  Mike Edwards just coming off of another Super Bowl with the Chiefs, his
• 1:31:45
  first Super Bowl come in with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, those are
• 1:31:47
  my top three right now if I had to, if I had to break
• 1:31:49
  it down from a safety perspective. Oh good coming here from Dobbs saying that
• 1:31:59
  Poyer went from five I have the six interceptions a season to none last year.
• 1:32:02
  Yeah, he had a bit of an interesting year. Nikki g saying
• 1:32:06
  bow Braid from Maryland is the later safety in the draft. I wouldn't mind.
• 1:32:10
  I haven't watched bou Braid yet. Later safeties that I like. I
• 1:32:13
  love Jalen Simpson from Auburn a lot, but he's undersized, former corner,
• 1:32:17
  so I can't keep bugging out. So we'll have to see. But I
• 1:32:20
  can think he's more like a longer term project. I also want to kind
• 1:32:24
  of see if he can bulke up to the mid one eighties. But Jalen
• 1:32:26
  Simpson I really like. I like Malie Mustafa safety from Wake Forest, but
• 1:32:30
  he's more of like in a single high scheme type of dude, kind of
• 1:32:33
  like down safety apex hybrid type of guy. But I do think he has
• 1:32:39
  the speed in the range to play in the post and play in two high
• 1:32:42
  looks. Who else bills are electric? This is a good one. So
• 1:32:46
  Dadrian Taylor Demerson seems like a quote unquote rising name at safety in the draft.
• 1:32:50
  Yeah, safety from Texas Tech. Both both their safety is him and
• 1:32:54
  then Owens the other safety from Texas Tech. They both got speed for days.
• 1:32:59
  I watched one and a half games of Emerson and was not that impressed.
• 1:33:03
  I think the speed is real, but I didn't see a lot of
• 1:33:06
  the hype and love. But again, I'm not finished with his evaluation,
• 1:33:10
  so I don't want to sit here and kind of, you know, bang
• 1:33:12
  the gavel for you know, my full thoughts on him. But I didn't
• 1:33:16
  see all the buzz and the juice for Demerson that people were talking about.
• 1:33:19
  I think he had a good Shrine Bowl week and that's where a lot of
• 1:33:23
  it's coming from. And then he tested well at the Combine. I think
• 1:33:25
  that's where a lot of the buzz is coming from. But on tape and
• 1:33:28
  maybe I just haven't watched the right game yet. I haven't seen it yet
• 1:33:30
  for Demerson, but I am going to continue to get to that spot.
• 1:33:34
  This is going from Josh saying, have you watched mo Kamara yet when that
• 1:33:39
  Panessa back, I feel better about a designated pass rusher type. So Mohamma
• 1:33:43
  Kamara edged from Colorado State. Very productive, lots of good stats, lots
• 1:33:47
  of good numbers. Tested well at the combine. I only watched one game
• 1:33:51
  from him so far, didn't love it. I see some of where the
• 1:33:59
  excitement comes from, but he is a smaller dude. I also don't think
• 1:34:01
  he fits like the archetype or the fit that the Bills usually look for at
• 1:34:05
  edge. But he is a smaller dude. Does have some juice. But
• 1:34:10
  I didn't love his first game or the one game that I watched so far.
• 1:34:15
  I thought there was some lacking in his pass rush plan and his moves.
• 1:34:18
  A lot of his wins were just purely because of speed or poor angles
• 1:34:24
  from the offensive tackles, specifically the right tackle. He had a couple a
• 1:34:27
  couple of pressures in this game. I forget who they were playing, but
• 1:34:30
  it was a wild game. He had like ten pressures in this game,
• 1:34:33
  and the majority of them are that I've seen so far, came from just
• 1:34:36
  kind of poor footwork or poor angles from the tackles instead of it just being
• 1:34:41
  like well, Kamara had this great get off where he had an awesome spin
• 1:34:45
  or a great swipe. So I didn't like him as much as I wanted
• 1:34:47
  to. But again, he's another dude that I'm continuing to go down the
• 1:34:50
  pike with. So follow me on Twitter at pro Underscore Underscore because you will
• 1:34:55
  see some pieces. Oh, I appreciate you, Dobbs. Dobbs saying three
• 1:34:58
  hundred and eighteen and was watching this. Let's all have to like, yes,
• 1:35:00
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• 1:35:02
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• 1:35:06
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• 1:35:17
  An absolute lot question here thoughts on the can Lewis resign myself and Joe Marino
• 1:35:23
  broke this down earlier, Go back and check that piece out on the show.
• 1:35:26
  But long story short, like the depth that Nicol liked the depth of
• 1:35:29
  safety, but we went into that a bit more in depth. Well,
• 1:35:32
  boom boom bum bum. Joe says he wants whitehead just so we can't hurt
• 1:35:41
  us anymore. Yeah, three interceptions against the Bills last year. In Week
• 1:35:45
  one, Dylan saying Simmons has thirty career I iNTS we need that kind of
• 1:35:47
  playmaking building in the secondary. I just don't know what he's going to go
• 1:35:51
  for. Seeing what Chauncey Gardner Johnson got today, I thought Brandon Jones got
• 1:35:57
  overpaid, But seeing what Gardner Johnson went for, the safety market's weird,
• 1:36:01
  Like it's so hard to pinpoint it. I think Simmons is going to go
• 1:36:04
  for even though he is thirty. I think he's going to go for double
• 1:36:08
  digit average anual value. So I could see him sitting there at ten,
• 1:36:12
  eleven, twelve, even pushing like thirteen million dollars a year, which I
• 1:36:15
  don't think is a crazy price considering he's an All Pro safety, and more
• 1:36:19
  important, he's in all Pro safety that makes plays on the ball. Like
• 1:36:25
  that's what I think is so important for safety play today. Like step one
• 1:36:29
  for me, your angles from depth have to be there. Your ability to
• 1:36:31
  come forward and make tackles on underneath routes and versus the run have to be
• 1:36:36
  on points. So your angles to the football, your ability to process and
• 1:36:40
  diagnose run and then being able to make the tackle with the tackle point which
• 1:36:44
  you get there are tremendously important. But the ability to turn the football over
• 1:36:47
  and take it away is so valuable at that safety spot. It's part of
• 1:36:51
  the reason, you know, in this draft class, I really like Cam
• 1:36:54
  Kitchens and I really like Tyler Nuban because of their ability to take the football
• 1:36:57
  away in a variety of forms. But yeah, I think Simmons is such
• 1:37:03
  an intriguing piece for anybody just because he can do anything too. I look
• 1:37:08
  split field looks, he can come forward and make tackles, he can cover
• 1:37:11
  like, he's got a good eye for the football and a good nose,
• 1:37:13
  tremendously smart, really good processor. He's been a one for the Broncos really
• 1:37:16
  since he stepped in on that team. So yeah, I would really like
• 1:37:24
  Justin Simmons. Is just gonna be that he costs a little bit. Jim
• 1:37:27
  Kelly coming in and saying, where do we think Trey goes? I was
• 1:37:30
  thinking of this earlier today. Actually, I really don't know. I guess
• 1:37:32
  it's gonna depend on where his knee is at in terms of I'm sorry his
• 1:37:39
  achilles, in terms of where that is actually honestly, his knee too in
• 1:37:41
  his head, Like I could see a scenario where he potentially retires. I'm
• 1:37:45
  really interested to see where he goes. Like my thoughts of right now is
• 1:37:50
  more to a contender type of team that just needs like depth or somebody that
• 1:37:57
  they think can be like corner three, maybe corner two, like the idea
• 1:38:00
  of him potentially going to like a Baltimore or something like that. But again,
• 1:38:03
  it's all gonna be dependent on what he's gonna cost, and that for
• 1:38:08
  me right now is such a muddy and murky question because we don't know the
• 1:38:12
  health of the Achilles. We don't know what his mental state is at,
• 1:38:15
  Like I think him coming back from the injury was already gonna be tough for
• 1:38:17
  him mentally, but then getting cut from the bills, like I just it's
• 1:38:20
  a lot to deal with, especially considering you know, how he's made up,
• 1:38:26
  Like I mean that in a good way. So, man, he's
• 1:38:29
  one that I was thinking about earlier today, like I wonder kind of where
• 1:38:30
  he goes. Oh, Dylan saying kite ola dappo, you were close that
• 1:38:38
  first, Oh should be an a So it's o la da po so kiteen
• 1:38:43
  Ola Dappo safety from Oregon State. Dude is big. Let me go to
• 1:38:46
  my notes on what I have for him. Yeah, so six foot two,
• 1:38:49
  two hundred nineteen pounds. I think that's what he's listed at. I
• 1:38:53
  don't even know what he checked in at the combine, but size. He's
• 1:38:56
  got some speed, he's got some range, He's willing against the run.
• 1:38:58
  He's a thumper. He gets a little grabby in his man coverage. But
• 1:39:01
  he's another intriguing like later round option I like, and that would be uh
• 1:39:08
  an interesting piece. Cocoa Munk saying not safe. You're related, but you
• 1:39:12
  see Johnson. Yeah, Deontay Johnson was traded from pitt to Carolina for a
• 1:39:15
  seven and six swap in a corner I've never heard of. Yeah, he
• 1:39:17
  went for peanuts. Relatively speaking, I would have liked that fit man him
• 1:39:25
  and Stefan Diggs. As you're one two it it gets hard to find it
• 1:39:28
  better. Like route running duo from a pure route running perspective, as your
• 1:39:30
  one two, that would have been a really interesting piece. I like the
• 1:39:33
  Deontay Johnson trade idea. I like the Courtland Sutton trade idea still, but
• 1:39:38
  you know, we'll see going forward. What else? What else? Oh,
• 1:39:45
  justin saying, who do you got as a draft sleep or I can
• 1:39:46
  go study. It's tough now because a lot of my sleepers are like guys
• 1:39:49
  that have are no longer being slept on, like Jabon Baker was my guy
• 1:39:53
  early on, Jaylen Simpson. I'm gonna go back to the safetyes Jalen Simpson
• 1:39:58
  safety from Auburn, Malik Mustafa safety from Wake Forest. Let's get some fun
• 1:40:04
  wide receivers. Taj Washington wide receiver from USC, Malik Washington wide receiver from
• 1:40:10
  Virginia. Oh, another wide receiver. This is probably my biggest sleeper wide
• 1:40:13
  receiver, Marcus rosemy Jack Saint wide receiver from Georgia. I think he's being
• 1:40:18
  slept on to a good degree. Defensive tackle. I think Tyler Davis is
• 1:40:23
  being slept on a little bit. I think those are good for me right
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  now. So go to some studying and we'll talk next week. Coco Monk
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  saying, is Damar in play for starting safety? I don't. For me,
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  i'd rather not. He might be within the organization. I don't think
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  he is, and for me, I would rather not. Jason says options
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  for RB two and either free agency or the draft. For the draft,
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  it depends on where you go. I love for them to get Marshaon Lloyd
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  running back from USC. There's a lot of dudes really like throughout Day three,
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  throughout Day two. Free agency is interesting as well, Like I'm gonna
• 1:41:04
  continue to hang my hand on the free agent running back that I've talked since
• 1:41:08
  the season ended. Like I think the Bills should just bring back Ty Johnson.
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  He was effective, he's smart, Brady likes him, got good value
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  out of him. Like, just bring back Ty Johnson and kind of be
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  done with it. I do like the potential idea of Aj Dillon. I
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  like some of the I've always been a fan and gravitated of like like the
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  thunder and lightning type of running back, So cooking Dylan, I think is
• 1:41:27
  an interesting combination that could potentially happen. But when we're looking at from running
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  backs from a draft perspective, yeah, I like the idea of Marshawn Lloyd.
• 1:41:40
  I like Braylan Allen again, thunder and lightning type of deal. A
• 1:41:44
  lot of this is gonna be where these guys come down. Even though Bucky
• 1:41:45
  Irving's a small dude, I really like Bucky Irving and what he's been kind
• 1:41:51
  of week in and week out at that running back spot for Oregon, just
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  like with what he can do and how diverse I think his skills that is,
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  again even though he is on more of like the smaller side. Where
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  else let me go through my notes. Yeah, Braylan Allen, I like
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  Dylan Lowby from New Hampshire as another one, and then guys like later like
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  Jase McConnell. Jace McClellan from Auburn I think is an interesting name as well,
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  but running backs, no disrespect. I really feel like it's like throw
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  a dark board and find a good running back and you're good. Oh,
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  Jamal hit me right in my heart. What will Xavier Worthy bring to the
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  Buffalo Bills have drafted by the team? Speed, elite ball tracking, downfield,
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  route running, true juice and toughness after the catch, A good movement
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  guy, A wide receiver two with wide receiver one upside though I think his
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  ceiling is probably just because of the size and frame stuff. I feel like
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  his ceiling is probably high end wide receiver two, low end wide receiver one.
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  But just immediately off the bat, he's bringing speed where he's probably the
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  fastest guy on the field, and he's a very good route runner. So
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  he's bringing you speed ball tracking, downfield juice and route running, and that's
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  tremendously valuable to me. He's my wide receiver for he has been the majority
• 1:43:14
  of this process. Dobbs saying, what do they do with Elam? I
• 1:43:18
  think you leaving the corner. Hopefully new coaching staff on the back end.
• 1:43:23
  Maybe a Die taps into him a little bit, maybe Babbage taps into him
• 1:43:26
  a little bit. Maybe they play more man and that helps him. Maybe
• 1:43:29
  somebody gets into his head about him being grabby and struggling at the catch point
• 1:43:32
  and getting worrisome. But yeah, I think you're sticking the corner. I'm
• 1:43:38
  not a big fan of the whole Elam to safety, Benford to safety,
• 1:43:42
  anybody to safety type of thing. I think moving from corner to safety is
• 1:43:45
  harder than people realize in terms of how you see the field and how you
• 1:43:47
  process and how you play, let alone, how you fit the run and
• 1:43:50
  trying to project that like, it's a harder transition than I think people talk
• 1:43:56
  about. So and also I think corner is a very valuable and premium spots
• 1:44:00
  still, So I'm leaving Elan mccorner and I'm hoping he starts to reach some
• 1:44:04
  of that ceiling that he had coming out. Oh Josh saying thanks R answer
• 1:44:13
  the Kamar question, No, no problem, He said, have you watched
• 1:44:15
  Javon Solomon from Troy or Nelson Sazar from Houston? I was disappointed in Austin
• 1:44:18
  Booker's testing. Haven't watched Booker. Watched him at the Senior Bowl was cool?
• 1:44:25
  Have not seen Solomon and Caesar or Caesar are in my next group of
• 1:44:30
  edges to watch. I also really, really really want to watch Marshaw Neelan
• 1:44:32
  from Western Michigan. I just haven't been able to get my hands on the
• 1:44:34
  tape, but I've sent a lot of feelers out trying to get it.
• 1:44:38
  But those are guys in my next group of edge rinkings. I like the
• 1:44:41
  names you're pulling out though. That's very fun. What else, Yeah,
• 1:44:47
  I think that is where those are lectures saying I think Xavier Worthy could go
• 1:44:53
  top twenty just because of speed. Some team might fall in love. I
• 1:44:55
  absolutely think that. You know again, him set in the combine record with
• 1:44:59
  that is very, very very impressive, but also you watch him on tape
• 1:45:04
  and he plays with that type of speed, Like I mean, you know
• 1:45:06
  you follow me on Twitter, Like I posted so many clips of Worthy,
• 1:45:11
  I have another one. Then I'm going to post tomorrow another one for Donnie
• 1:45:15
  Mitchell two or at Ni Mitchell ad then I'm gonna be posting tomorrow as well,
• 1:45:19
  Like yeah, like Worthy is just so fun for me. I think
• 1:45:23
  you can make the case for a lot of dudes that are wide receiver four.
• 1:45:25
  Like I understand the people that have Brian Thomas. I understand the people
• 1:45:28
  that think it's Mitchell, or even some of the people that think it's Keyank
• 1:45:30
  Coleman or somebody that thinks it's Lad McConkie, like whatever. I think you
• 1:45:33
  make a case for a lot of dudes at wide receiver four. But yeah,
• 1:45:39
  Worthy has been my wide receiver four for a while just because of the
• 1:45:41
  speed and the route running. And I also know that he ran at the
• 1:45:45
  combine at one sixty five. I don't think that's his playing weight. I
• 1:45:47
  think he plays above one seventy, so I think his playing weight is more
• 1:45:51
  like one seventy three one seventy five. I think he cut to be able
• 1:45:56
  to fly and set that time at the combine. Now, I know you're
• 1:45:59
  probably thinking imediately or people listening like, oh, well that if he's heavier,
• 1:46:01
  he's not really running a four to two to one. Probably not.
• 1:46:04
  But I'll take a dude who weighs in at one seventy five and probably runs
• 1:46:08
  like a four to two eight, which is still extremely extremely fast for me
• 1:46:13
  with worthy AD's that combination of speed and route running that really really really gets
• 1:46:16
  me. Some of you folks may hear me coughing, and that's because I'm
• 1:46:20
  still a little sick. I haven't even to fully shake this sickness that I've
• 1:46:24
  had for like about a week now going on right now. So because I'm
• 1:46:27
  starting to cough a bunch, I'm gonna throw up the banner that says toodles,
• 1:46:30
  folks, because I'm gonna start winding down here on this show. If
• 1:46:32
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• 1:46:35
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• 1:46:39
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• 1:46:50
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• 1:47:09
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• 1:47:13
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• 1:47:18
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• 1:47:21
  Dude is one of the best. I was just on his show a couple
• 1:47:26
  of weeks ago, hoping to have him on again before the NFL Draft comes
• 1:47:30
  up. Dude is awesome. Appreciate him making the time. So thank you
• 1:47:34
  very much to Joe Marino for stopping by and doing this episode with me.
• 1:47:40
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• 1:48:40
  Jerry Rice's son or McCaffrey. Who's your pick, Anthony. I think all
• 1:48:43
  of them are being slept on. I agree they're being slept on. If
• 1:48:45
  I had to pick in order, I'm going in that order, I'm going
• 1:48:48
  Jalen Polk, I'm going Brendan Rice, and then I'm going Luke McCaffrey.
• 1:48:53
  But I do I do think all three off or something. And then also
• 1:48:57
  this one. Yeah, this is a little sneaky, Carl says Ann.
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  Are you a one tree guy now? Oh? Yep. So the big
• 1:49:02
  tree stays up over there and the little guy is over there. Mainly for
• 1:49:06
  the holiday season, like November through December, January, even February, as
• 1:49:12
  long as I can leave the big tree up. But with us being fully
• 1:49:14
  into March, we're out of that holiday season, Christmas holiday season, so
• 1:49:16
  I'm back to the one tree season. So it'll be one tree. This
• 1:49:21
  guy here, as you can see, it's decorated for Saint Patrick's Day.
• 1:49:25
  It'll switch up towards Easter at the end of this month, because Easter is
• 1:49:28
  at the end of March this year, which is weird and throwing me for
• 1:49:30
  a loop. But yeah, back to the one tree. It'll be one
• 1:49:32
  tree from now through October and then come November or bust out the bigger guy
• 1:49:39
  and we'll go full holiday mode. I appreciate you recognizing the tree. Thank
• 1:49:42
  you very much. Oh and I appreciate all the sickness remedies and the kind
• 1:49:45
  words in the chat. You know, I'm trying to power through. I
• 1:49:47
  feel a lot better. Last week I was in dire straits. I was
• 1:49:50
  hopped up on theraflu and hauls and tee doing the show on Tuesday and Wednesday.
• 1:49:57
  Got a little better this weekend. I've gotten a little better now.
• 1:50:00
  I think I'm definitely on the upswing. It's just a combination of like I
• 1:50:02
  got sick, and then my wife got sick, and then I started to
• 1:50:04
  get sick again. So we're kind of in this like cat chasing our tail
• 1:50:09
  type of thing, round and round we go with sickness. But I am
• 1:50:12
  a lot I am a lot better. Oh. I like this One tree
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  Bill. Also shout out One Tree Hill, which is a phenomenal show.
• 1:50:16
  I know that's I feel like One Tree Hill was a soap opera for dudes,
• 1:50:19
  and I'm all about that show. I do love talking trees. Second
• 1:50:24
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• 1:51:15
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• 1:51:18
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