Latest / THE STILL REAL TO US SHOW – Real Guy Radio / AEW World's End Preview | SRTU Bonus | 12/29/23
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- 0:00It's still really to be damn. Welcome everybody to this special bonus edition of
- 0:06the Cereal To Show for December twenty ninth, twenty twenty three. It is
- 0:10our aw World's End preview and predictions. We're taking a break during our holiday
- 0:18break to come up here and I don't know, do a couple of minutes
- 0:21and go through this Saturday's pay per view, Doctor Troy. We usually take
- 0:26three straight weeks off. We pre recorded the show from last week, the
- 0:30show yesterday, and the show next week well in advance. But here we
- 0:34are thanks to Tony Kahan interjecting ourselves with some timely wrestling content. Hello,
- 0:40my friends, so good to be here, My friends. Sorry, I
- 0:42flashback to the pre show here. I just it's a little weird to be
- 0:47jumping back in. I can tell your enthusiasm level was not there. We
- 0:51didn't get the big hurrah O. I try not to do the normal opening
- 0:55when it's the bonus edition. I just like to try to get right into
- 0:58it because I feel like there's the bonus edition is like here we are,
- 1:02this is us. But then usually that our bonusis are was like sad news.
- 1:07That is true. It has been that way as of late. It
- 1:08was the last time we did it was the Bray White Show. We have
- 1:12interrupted our holiday programming schedule in the past when Brody Lee passed away. A
- 1:18lot of remembrance for both those guys over the last week with Brody Lee's passing.
- 1:23Now, what was that three years ago? Yeah, I mean it's
- 1:26just it's just wild. I mean, at least this time, it's it's
- 1:30like happiness that we're interjecting ourselves with because we've got a pay per view.
- 1:34I don't know how I feel about a pay per view during the holiday like
- 1:38this, but I know that this was a common thing. I remember I
- 1:41grew up in starkad would be taking place like this upcoming weekend. Yeah,
- 1:46and then you know we got all these now, like ww's kind of taking
- 1:49a page from Adew's book with having these branded themed raws and smackdowns as well
- 1:57as I like that. I really liked that, by the way. Uh,
- 2:00I like that Day one in New Year's Revolution is back in the rotation.
- 2:05I think it's a smart thing to do because they're going to be battling.
- 2:07This is your wheelhouse, Doctor Trey, not so much mine, But
- 2:09they're gonna be battling college football all next week. So does this mean like
- 2:14this is like ww's answer to bowl season. I think, I think in
- 2:17a way right, like because Monday night, uh what the second game,
- 2:23the second semi final game, I think kicks off at eight. I think
- 2:25Rose Bowl is at five thirty, So I mean I'll be watching Raw,
- 2:31most likely live or delayed. But I would imagine well, for you,
- 2:36right the the sans Alabama fan Michigan and Alabama will be probably done by the
- 2:42start of Raw. I'm hoping so because that's that's that's a hard that's a
- 2:46hard choice because it's a weird by the way, this side note, this
- 2:50is a weird game for me because I like Jim Harbaugh X forty nine Ers
- 2:53coach and I like Alabama, so I don't know who to root for that
- 2:54one. So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it's strange.
- 2:58I know Monday Night's gonna be battle for them, and then I don't think
- 3:00the National Championship game is until about a week later, So I mean,
- 3:05definitely the day one edition of Raw is going to be quite the battle and
- 3:08taking on the semi finals, and then people like doing New Year's type stuff
- 3:13like I don't know about you, doctor Trey, but usually like my family
- 3:15or my in laws, like we have dinner together and then the holidays are
- 3:20officially closed and I'm back to my normal work and grind. The next day
- 3:24on the second, January second, is like one of the hardest days of
- 3:29the year. I think it's like she, I think it's it's got to
- 3:34be one of the hardest. Now I'm trying to have I'm trying to think,
- 3:37like what other day would my mind not want to be doing anything,
- 3:40because I don't know. Doctor Trey and I were just talking, like we're
- 3:45both intermittently working right now, doctor Trey more than I am, because like
- 3:50my job is very quiet, Doctor Trey is out and about, so I
- 3:53guess it's a little bit easier. But like December fifteenth hits for me and
- 3:59I'm like tuned out, Like it's very rare that I get an opportunity to
- 4:02take a break from the personal work, podcasting, hobbies, life that I
- 4:08have outside of this spectrum of SRTU. So I always take like these two
- 4:13and a half three weeks and just kind of reset a little bit, and
- 4:15then when January second rolls around for me, it's like son of uh bitch.
- 4:19Yeah, like the company I'm with now, it's a little weird.
- 4:23For like last year when I was running the live events team, like there's
- 4:26there's no events in December because it's too cold to actually be out there and
- 4:30running a fair or a festival or what is too cold in Alabama? Uh
- 4:34thirty five forty okay, people, that is cold. That is cold.
- 4:38That's that is cold. Like our highest week like today's forty seven. So
- 4:42like for Alabama, it's pretty cold. But like you know, if you're
- 4:46running events, they usually start like seven o'clock, eight o'clock in the morning,
- 4:49and those are it's still thirty three thirty forty freez. We don't people
- 4:53don't like getting out that early. So with now moving over to the retail
- 4:56side, it's still slow ish because it's these are in home improvement stores,
- 5:02so it's still slow ish. But I didn't know my company had unlimited PTO
- 5:08and I'm like, shit, I could just taken these entire two weeks off
- 5:10and nobody was said a word to me about it. But I feel guilty
- 5:14about doing stuff like that, so I'm just like, no, I'll keep
- 5:16working. But it is weird, like I'm literally like trying to do a
- 5:19schedule for the people that work under me, and I'm like, we can't
- 5:25be in the store on Sunday, we can't be in the store on Monday,
- 5:27and the company doesn't really want us in the stores on Tuesdays. So
- 5:30we're only back in the store Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, back
- 5:32out again on Sunday and Monday, and then light schedule on Tuesday. I'm
- 5:35like, why are we even doing anything? Can we just shut it down?
- 5:39But oh, by the way, I was seeing this, why like
- 5:43thinking about bull season and wrestling. I know, I'm kind of squirreling around
- 5:46here and jumping around a bit, but this popped in my head when you're
- 5:48talking about like why hat, since we're doing these branded events like like Day
- 5:54one Revolution, why don't they look for sponsorship? Because I would love to
- 6:00see Manscape or Manscaper Presents Monday Night Raw grape Balls of Fire. I would
- 6:03have me, well, duh, yeah, I would love to see that,
- 6:09or bring it back, Tostitos SmackDown. You know, it's just what
- 6:14it just like little things like that like that would be a way for them
- 6:15to make a little bit more revenue, like, I don't see why they
- 6:17haven't tapped into those like college football has done for the better part of the
- 6:20last thirty years. Hey, listen, we're talking to Nick con right now,
- 6:24so might as well let mean throw it out there. Hello, Yeah,
- 6:28let's do it. Nick co On, please hop on in there and
- 6:30take advantage of the grape Balls of Fire returned by Presented by Manscape. One
- 6:35of my favorite January and I think they only did this once and I've definitely
- 6:40talked about this on the podcast somewhere in my wrestling fan library of vhs and
- 6:46DVD which, by the way, rip WE DVDs. WWE Home Video closes
- 6:53like this week. It's it's done. On December thirty. First, they
- 6:56just ran their final DVD, which is a survivor series, War Games,
- 7:02and I don't think that is gonna be talked enough about, probably the only
- 7:05time this will be mentioned this podcast that like w W Home Video is closing,
- 7:10which has been around forever. Coliseum home Video at one point they were
- 7:15doing all their stuff, but one of my favorite branded special football type events
- 7:20they ever did was the Raw Bowl. Do you do you remember that?
- 7:24Doctrin? Basically essentially it was a fatal four way elimination fatal four way tag
- 7:28team match. It was like Breton Yoko, the Smoking Guns one two three
- 7:33kid in Psycho Sid and I think Razormon and Savio Vega. I almost am
- 7:38positive I just nailed that. I think you did because as your mentioning,
- 7:42IM like, I know Savio Vega was in there, like I was remembering,
- 7:45I was like, oh yeah. And then I think, didn't they
- 7:46even have like like those little like craft jersey type they think they did?
- 7:50Yes? Yeah, see how you do remember that? See? My favorite
- 7:54thing was always the when they would do the halftimee shows where we got Rock
- 7:57and Magki and in the Efty Arena match was yes, yes. And I
- 8:01actually think the Raw Bull episode there was a halftime show and I've had something
- 8:05to do with like gold Dust I remember, oh yeah yeah. So but
- 8:09I always love when they would do the football tie is because I mean half
- 8:13I would think probably eighty percent of the wrestling roster were formal like high school
- 8:18football players. You know, most of those guys were big kids growing up.
- 8:20Anyway, I'm talking about you know, the eighties and nineties wrestlers,
- 8:24not the guys today that are one hundred and seventy five pounds. But you
- 8:28know a lot of those guys played football, so it's kind of like a
- 8:31way that's kind of harkened back. I mean, you got guys like Hacksaw
- 8:33Jim Duggan and you know guy you know, Wahoo McDaniel, and you know,
- 8:37all the way through Goldber, guys who actually played in the NFL and
- 8:39stuff like that. Like those guys, you know, you threw up a
- 8:43wrestling thing, you know, paper or event and people got fired up.
- 8:46Plus those were always in response to how great the Bug Bowls and the Puppy
- 8:50Bowls were also back in the nineties. Yes, yeah, so go out
- 8:52of your way. I'm sure it's up on YouTube. Check out Raw Bull.
- 8:56Uh. But yeah, next week is a big week. We certainly
- 8:58are not going to be in the next week's edition the podcast because it's already
- 9:03been pre recorded. It's our wrestling preview special, which actually goes toe to
- 9:05toe with w w we's Previews special. That's Aaron on Peacock. So yeah,
- 9:09let's go hut at wa. But yeah, in about two weeks we'll
- 9:13get back to our normal regular schedule programming for SRTU. That falls on December
- 9:20eleventh, excuse me, January eleventh, and it's possible, I don't know.
- 9:24Maybe Doctor Trey and I will hop on here next week and we'll do
- 9:26a recap as well. If not, we'll certainly cover World's end recap on
- 9:31the January eleventh edition. So just stay tuned, continue to download US where
- 9:35you get US iTunes, Spotify, what have you, and keep an eye
- 9:39on the social media content feeds and Facebook pages and see when this podcast comes
- 9:45up. So we debated actually doing this, decided that we were going to
- 9:48do something here for a little bit at least get another one in there for
- 9:52the end of the year and get you ready for Saturday's aw Worlds and pay
- 9:56per view, which comes to us from the Nasau Veterans More Coliseum in Uniondale,
- 10:01Long Island, New York. I love when we it's like the only
- 10:05part of the United States that we treat like it's a providence in Canada where
- 10:11they're like Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Like only in Long Island, Are
- 10:15you like Uniondale, Long Island, New York, Because people like, oh
- 10:18I thought it was a Long Island. It is, but Uniondale is the
- 10:22town in Long Island, so it's like, Okay, Canada, Long Island.
- 10:26Yeah, it's all the same at the end of the day. So
- 10:28let's get to it here, Doctor Turr. As of right now, they
- 10:31have announced as we record this one, two, three, four, five,
- 10:35six, seven, eight, nine, ten matches. I expect some
- 10:39to be added. One match on here that I don't see right now that
- 10:41I expect to be added as FTR taking on Buddy Matthews and Aliser Black or
- 10:48Malachi Black at the paper view. I would imagine that takes place. But
- 10:52they only have one show really to announce these matches, whether it's online or
- 10:56on Rampage on Friday night, No Collision on Saturday, The Collision Cowboys Stay
- 11:01Home in lieu of World End taking place on Saturday night live in Long Island.
- 11:09So the first match here, Doctor Trey is a twenty man Battle Royal
- 11:11for a future AWT and T Championship matches. You and I record this.
- 11:15They haven't announced a soul that is going to participate in this match, so
- 11:20we have no ideas. So the way that I went about this is I
- 11:24looked at the Continental Classic. I looked at the card, and I was
- 11:26like, Okay, who performed well in the Continental Classic and is not performing
- 11:31in the pay per view. A couple of big names, Brodie Lee and
- 11:35Andreddai Alito is in the pay per view later on Claudium Cassick No Lee is
- 11:41not. So when I looked at the standings, I was like, Ah,
- 11:43this person who performed on Wednesday night in a phenomenal triple threat match with
- 11:48Swarve Strickland and John Moxley. I'm gonna go with Jay White to win this
- 11:52battle Royal Doctor Trey, I'm thinking I honestly, so let's see, I
- 12:00went Continental Classic like like, that's kind of I feel like those are the
- 12:03favorites of Tony con right now. So is Christian and Adam Copland on the
- 12:09card for the match they are They're in a no DQ match, okay,
- 12:13for the TNT Championship. So if I go there, yeah, you know
- 12:18what, I typically try to go way off the radar with us, but
- 12:22you know, I think I think I'll take Claudio to get the win.
- 12:26All right, If that makes sense, Yeah, let's do it. Claudia
- 12:28Lucassignoli is doctor Trace pitt Pick. I'm gonna go with Jay White next match.
- 12:33Here is on the pre show, Hook defends the FTW Championship against Wheelery
- 12:39Utah in an FTW rules match. No idea what that means, but it's
- 12:41an FTW rules match, so I mean FTW. I mean I know what
- 12:46that stood for, so I don't know if that means the rules are.
- 12:50Like if we if we get the no rope match like we saw on an
- 12:54XT the other night, I'm going to take hook uh in the just because
- 13:00I can't see Wheeler Year running around. Although that would bring back the oh,
- 13:05the guy that Claudia fought, the Bloodsport guy. Oh, Josh Barnett,
- 13:11Josh Barnett. Yeah, it's gonna say Josh Briggs. I'm like,
- 13:13that's the wrong Josh b You could do the blood Sport rules. If you
- 13:16have the FTW title, do all your matches under those kind of rules.
- 13:20I still think I'll take Hook. I'll take Hook. There we go.
- 13:22I'm gonna take Hook as well. He's the hometown guy, so I'm gonna
- 13:24take Hook to win the match. Next match, here's the Championship final for
- 13:28the AW Continental Classic for the inaugural Triple Crown Championship of the ROH World Championship,
- 13:33New Japan's Strong open weight Championship and the inaugural ae W Continental Championship.
- 13:39We have no idea what that title looks like yet. Eddie Kinkson takes on
- 13:43John Moxley, the winner of both the Gold League and Blue League finals.
- 13:46The booking of Eddie Kinkson has been a lot of fun in this He started
- 13:50down OH two, worked his way back up, became an underdog, finally
- 13:54defeated Brian Danielson on Wednesday Night's edition of AW Dynamite. I'm really looking forward
- 14:01to this one ton of momentum on Eddie Kinkson's side. I think they did
- 14:03this tournament. He put up his They mentioned multiple times his life work of
- 14:07roa trold title on the New Japan Strong open Weight Championship to be in this
- 14:11tournament, and therefore, I think that this tournament is the opportunity to springboard
- 14:18Eddie Kinkson some more. I'm going to take Eddie Kinkson to win this match,
- 14:22and I just want to give a little tip of the cap to AW.
- 14:26The Continental Classic tournament was a ton of fun to watch, really fun
- 14:28matches, great stuff. It is what has carried AAW since Full Gear to
- 14:33now and it's literally just been this tournament to me, that has truly carried
- 14:39aw looking forward to this in hopeful year's future. Eddie Kinkson has my choice
- 14:45to win this match, Doctor Trey. Yeah, I think Eddie kings is
- 14:46my choice as well, and a lot of it is because of the Moxley
- 14:50booking. Like you, swar Strickland obviously probably the hottest star on the roster,
- 14:54does not get the win because it's like, Okay, you got something
- 14:58else planned first, Sword's than this. Then you have Moxley go over to
- 15:03have Kingston beat Moxley, and those guys are like best friends in real life,
- 15:05so I don't think Moxie is might losing to Eddie Kingson to help elevate
- 15:11his friend. So I'll take Eddie Kingston as well. Next match, Year's
- 15:13Julia Hart to fend the AWTBS Championship against Abadon, Doctor Tree, Who do
- 15:18you like in this one? Man? This was tough because I really like
- 15:20Abadon, She's a really fun character. But I'm gonna take Julia Hart using
- 15:26her black magic against the Abaddon zombie magic and maybe a little sistant from sky
- 15:31Blues Blue Magic to overcome Abudon's zombie magic. Yes, Okay, Wow,
- 15:35and they were in Orlando on Wednesday night, the home of the Orlando Magic.
- 15:41Ironically enough, I'm gonna take Julia Hart to retain the AWTBS Championship as
- 15:46well. This feud has been decent. I'm happy for Abdon to get into
- 15:50a little bit more TV time. She was a really fun character, like
- 15:54in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I know she'd I think she'd battled
- 15:56some injuries and have been away for a while off of AW television. So
- 16:00it's cool to see her in the spot and it's a nice, nice little
- 16:03AWTBS Championship feud. Next match is Timeless Tony Storm defend the AW Women's World
- 16:08Championship against Riho. I'm going to take Timeless Tony Storm to win and retain.
- 16:15And I just have a feeling doctor Trey that Jamie Hayter or a doctor
- 16:18Burt Baker maybe returning at Saturday's AW World's End event. Yeah, there about
- 16:22due. I'm taking Timeless Tony Storm as well. Like I like Rio,
- 16:26but I mean from where she was at when the show first launched a few
- 16:30years ago to where she is now, Like, I mean, she's not
- 16:33even a top Japanese superstar in Order's division. I think you could at Tashida,
- 16:38So like for me, it is kind of just a you know,
- 16:41we're adding days to Tony's run type match, so I'll take Tony Storm as
- 16:47well. Yeah, I mean Rio got derailed a lot by the pandemic and
- 16:49then just very intermittently she's involved in the pro in the promotion. I don't
- 16:55even really know if she's technically a full time wrestler for them at this point
- 16:57based on how things are. But you really forget that Rijo was the first
- 17:02AW women's World champion. It's it's kind of absurd in a way, but
- 17:04the women's division in AW can be a podcast in itself. Next match here
- 17:10is Ricky Stark's Big Bill, Kyle Fletcher and Powerhouse Ops taken on Christ Jericho,
- 17:14Samy Gevara, Sting and Darby Allen in a eight man tag team match.
- 17:19Obviously, this is a match that is taking place because of the dive
- 17:22tiiculitis with Kenny Omega, which could have resulted in death based on some things
- 17:27that are being reported out there right now. The Chris Jericho Samy gevar reunion
- 17:33is a quick creative response to that, so I assume they don't think Kenny
- 17:40Omego will be back anytime soon. We'll get Doctor Trey's thoughts on this in
- 17:45just a second, but I felt like at one point Doctor Trey sidebaring this
- 17:52all that Don Catallus was going to be revealed as the devil and that Powerhouse
- 17:55ops Kyle Fletcher Powerhouse Kence Kenoski to Keshka and Samy, We're gonna be the
- 18:00Devil's henchman. That may be all out the window because Sammy is reunited with
- 18:06Chris Jericho, but here we are. I mean, this is kind of
- 18:11in response to the Kenny Omega stuff. And this also gets Stinging Darby Allen
- 18:15on the card as well. In an eight man tag team match. Who
- 18:19do you like in this one? And I guess give your thoughts on the
- 18:22Jericho Samy Gevar reunion. So I'm gonna take the Sting Darby Allen Jericho Gavar
- 18:27team because Sting doesn't lose him lose like two months before his retirement match in
- 18:33a random eight man tag So you have Sting and Sting in Jericho on the
- 18:37same team as well. It is pretty pretty cool. So I'll take those
- 18:41guys in the win, and it's just kind of such a knee jerk booking
- 18:47response. It is literally like this may be like I give credit to WB
- 18:52for having the worst baby face turn of all time when Al bernadel Rio turned
- 18:56baby face because of the spansion now table Sammy Goavarz hearned baby face because of
- 19:02a baby So that's literally like the ultimate reason to turn babyface. So it's
- 19:10just one of those things where just like it sucks that you know, Kitty
- 19:12got you know, diverticul lies because we all know the brock Lesnar story and
- 19:17how much that mess brought up. It's just it is kind of a shame
- 19:22that you don't have somebody in place to kind of want to elevate into a
- 19:27good babyface role other than flipping Sammy Gavara against Samy gavar Is quickly becoming the
- 19:33big show of AW. I was literally thinking the same thing. It's like
- 19:37the more kids like been baby facing, heel like I think already a dozen
- 19:41times in five years of AW, so it's just hard to kind of keep
- 19:45up. And it's like, Okay, we turned a baby face because Don
- 19:48Challis put his baby in a painting, Like, does that make Don callus
- 19:52the villain from Ghostbusters too, or you just you don't do the match for
- 19:57a while. Yeah, I guess it does in a way. He is
- 20:00the villain from Ghostbusters too. But yeah, I'm gonna take Jericho, Sammy
- 20:04Sting and Darby Allen as well. But creatively, in this entire thing,
- 20:08I think this is a big problem I have with AW creative is that the
- 20:12follow through. I get it. I understand their hands are tied. The
- 20:17belief is that probably Kenny's going to be out for a while. But say
- 20:21Kenny does make a miraculous return and he's back a month from now, and
- 20:23then it leads to Sammy turning on Chris Jericho again. That wouldn't shock me
- 20:29at all. It actually wouldn't shock me if Sammy turns on Jericho this Saturday.
- 20:32AW World's end. There's just so many like you just had FTR make
- 20:38the save for Daniel Garcia and oh God Millard their magic Daddy Magic Millard there
- 20:48from the former JAS like pair. Daniel Garcia up with Jericho, got a
- 20:56great hand. Yeah do that, I mean dip into the stuff like Jay
- 21:00Haeger makes a ton of sense. They can go off on the story about
- 21:03how Hagar basically saved Jericho's life overseas several years ago when they were both in
- 21:07Wue like they have in the past. I just felt like there were so
- 21:11many different ways to go about this and then go in the Sammyovar well again,
- 21:14it was just really strange because they had the big turn at I believe
- 21:18Grand Slam where he turned on Jericho and then he either got concussed I think
- 21:22he got concuss at Wrestled Dream and then we hadn't seen him because he was
- 21:26concussed and then had the maternity leave by having a baby with he and his
- 21:30wife te Mellow Time Mello. It's like, what like this just I don't
- 21:34know, very poorly executed in just a lack of different options that could have
- 21:41made sense. Is he the worst of the four pillars right now? Based
- 21:44on the booking. Based on the booking, I would still put Jungle Boy
- 21:51Jack Perry. I'm I don't. I mean this again could be a podcast
- 21:56in itself, I mean all three of the four And I'm a RB Allen
- 22:00fan. I like Sam mcvaris in ring work. I think we all know
- 22:03how I feel about Jungle Boy Jack Perry. Like Jack Perry was as a
- 22:07character over the heel turn of the summer was starting to take a turn in
- 22:10like this swarming villain that was you wanted to punch in the face. But
- 22:14like, and I know they could still kick my ass, but visually,
- 22:18three out of the four don't look like they could kick my ass, like
- 22:22it could be in a decently even fight. And I've just never been I
- 22:26know that's a very old school approach, but I just have never felt that
- 22:32those guys are are truly the four pillars of the company. I I throw
- 22:37Orange in as the fifth pillar then, and I'm like, yeah, even
- 22:38Orange, I don't think I could. I think most people could think they
- 22:41could take orangin to fight as well. Yeah I would. I would say
- 22:45guys like Moxley, Jericho, Omega, maybe like the Bucks or like the
- 22:48true pillars of that company. But whatever it is, what it is.
- 22:52Enough of that next match here has been is Christian Cage defending the AWT and
- 22:57T Championship in any Notice qualification match against Adam Copeland. This has been kind
- 23:03of a mild feud. I don't know where kill Switch Lucasaurus is. I
- 23:08don't know if he's hurt or I don't believe he was written off of television.
- 23:14I think he may be hurt, but there's been like zero explanation.
- 23:17They changed his name, he wrestled on Collision and then disappeared, and then
- 23:22nothing has come out of this. Cage defeated Copeland when Nick Wayne's mom interfered,
- 23:29her acting is like up there with some of the worst I've seen Judy
- 23:37Bagwell, yeah, but she has like the potential to be Vicky Guerrero bad
- 23:42or good as well, Like you don't know where that's going to go.
- 23:47But nonetheless, I don't know. The Adam Copeland booking of AW has been
- 23:52peculiar at best. I feel like a ton of momentum and hype and popularity
- 23:57and excitement and then it's been kind of mild so far. I don't I
- 24:03don't know. That's always been the trend with with a lot of the debuts
- 24:07in AW for some reason. With that said, I do think Adam Copland
- 24:11becomes the AWT and T champion at Saturday's event and defeats Christian Cage in a
- 24:15notice qualification match. I kind of want to put into a Nick Wayne's mom
- 24:19on a forkliff match. It's possible the way that Tony Kah does stuff,
- 24:23So it is it's a really weird fore and you and I have done this,
- 24:29been doing this show for a very long time, and we always talk
- 24:30about like when best friends have a feud, it's usually really really good because
- 24:34those guys trust each other implicitly and we'll do just crazy stuff like the sam
- 24:41he's saying Kevin Owens Views, you know, things like that, where you're
- 24:44like, these guys trust and love each other so much that they'll just go
- 24:48crazy and balls out and it gets really intense. And this one it feels
- 24:53like they're trying really really hard to be intense, but it's coming out.
- 24:59Yeah, you're trying really hard. I'm taking Adam Copeland as well, because
- 25:04this just reminds me of a w booking in general, Like they'll get a
- 25:07big name in they'll shoot him to the moon, and then like a month
- 25:12and a half in, it's like Tony Kahn forgot about this trying new toy
- 25:15and it gets put back in the box and it just has played with every
- 25:18so often. It's the same booking they've had with Mirro with a drawing a
- 25:23even Brian Danielson to a point Adam Cole like they they come in full of
- 25:29pomp and circumstance and then it end up ends up signifying nothing for a while.
- 25:33So uh, I will say this is a reminder Christian Kasha was in
- 25:37my list for a Performer of the Year on the men's side when we did
- 25:38the Awrange show. So just he's he's been great. I don't know,
- 25:44it just feels very It just feels stagnant. Maybe because longtime wrestling fans like
- 25:48Doctor Trey and I have seen this, We've seen this play out. It
- 25:52just feels it feels forced. It does it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like
- 25:55these guys. We all know these guys are best friends and we want I
- 26:00think the thing is moose of us want to see them together. That's why
- 26:02I was literally going to say that I thought it would make better sense to
- 26:04lead the direction of Nick Wayne, Shanna Wayne and Lucasaurus turning on him for
- 26:10Adam Copeland make to save them the other way that this is going right now?
- 26:14Yeah, I agree, So I love it. Next match here,
- 26:17Swerve Strickland versus Keith Lee. Strict. Swerve has been on a major breakout
- 26:23year in twenty twenty three. He's been in the continental classes the last couple
- 26:29of months, six weeks or so. Keith Lee has been talking about him
- 26:34and chasing him over the last couple of weeks. He identified him as Swerve
- 26:37Strickland. This is a reset, a replay of what was a great tag
- 26:45team and then a pretty decent feud post and now it's taking place again.
- 26:48This just feels like a match that, Hey, we want to get Swurve
- 26:51Strickland on the card. I love the stuff they did with Keith Lee.
- 26:53There's a little bit of a storyline here, so it makes a little bit
- 26:56of sense. So let's throw it up there. Swarve Strickland, take it
- 27:00on. Kei Lee. Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one?
- 27:02Uh? Like, I'm confused. I got this is hard for it
- 27:06says. It's like, it's weird for me to pick because the Keith Lee
- 27:10stuff has been decent on the undercard stuff, like you know, he's he's
- 27:15looking for him, and I'm like, by the way, I love that
- 27:18Carmelo chimed into Carmelo Hayes chimed in on this as well. But it's like,
- 27:23Okay, you're kind of giving Keith Lee a little bit of a push,
- 27:26but you're putting him now with Swerve. Who's the hottest guy in your
- 27:29company. I don't think you want Keith Lee taking Swerve down. So maybe
- 27:33this leads to Keith Lee joining Swerve at some point. I don't know.
- 27:37I'm taking Swerve because this is hard to pick against him right now because he's
- 27:41so on fire. So I'll take Swerve getting the win. I'm gonna take
- 27:45Swerve Strickland as well. The Keith Lee booking has been kind of poor for
- 27:49a while now, so I'm I'm a huge Keith Lee fan. I thought
- 27:52at one point like he was gonna becoming w w weeed World of aweight champion
- 27:56type on this podcast back when he was a w I think if he was
- 28:00in the w umbrella right now, Triple H seemed to have affinity for him
- 28:04and liked his work, he may be higher up on the car than he
- 28:07currently is. Maybe this is an opportunity for him to reboot a little bit
- 28:11and get back in front of the eyes of the resting fans a little bit
- 28:15more positively than having black hair one week, having gray hair the next week.
- 28:18Tagging with Dustin Rhodes one week back to solo and then taking on Shane
- 28:25Taylor at ROH Final Battle a week later. Like, it's just been really
- 28:29weird booking for Keith Lee, who I think deserves more. Hopefully this is
- 28:32a reset and a reboot for him. But I am taking Swerve strictling with
- 28:36a victor. I think Swerve is going to have a epic twenty twenty four,
- 28:38which we'll probably talk about a little bit more on next week's regular edition
- 28:44of SRTU on January the fourth. Next match here is Miro taking on Andrete
- 28:48l Edelo. Those obviously the backstory here, Miro said to his wife C
- 28:51J. Perry, who, I hope she's feeling better. She was in
- 28:55the hospital with a really nasty finger infection. I don't know if she will
- 29:00be at the show on Saturday. They are not promoting her from being there.
- 29:04But Miro said that he would not touch Andredi l Ilo while he was
- 29:07performing the Continental Classic, and once it was over, all bets are off
- 29:11and that's what leads to this match. Outside of just a couple of backstage
- 29:15vignettes and promos, there really has been not much in ring bill for this
- 29:18one. I had a tough time calling this, but I'm gonna go with
- 29:22Miro to take the victory of Doctor Trey. This is good because I think
- 29:27we get to disagree on one. I'm gonna take Andrade just because I thought
- 29:30Androti did really well in the Continental Classic and it seems like they're kind of
- 29:34getting him on a roll a little bit. I love that Miro says that
- 29:37the only reason he wants to fight on drate because Andre is an a hole.
- 29:41It's not about it's not about his wife. It's weird watching one guy
- 29:45find another guy who his wife manages that guy and that guy's wife in another
- 29:49company, but she's out of the torn Aco right now, so that's just
- 29:52kind of weird for me. But uh yeah, I'm gonna take on Dradik.
- 29:55I thought Andretti had a really really solid run in the Continental Classic.
- 29:59He did, he had really good run, and I hope for a bigger
- 30:02year for Androdi because I am a fan of his work. Next match here
- 30:06is for the aw World Championship as MJF defense against Samoa Joe. We will
- 30:11get Doctor Trey's thoughts here in just a second and a prediction, but a
- 30:14little bit of a preview here Doctor Trey. On Wednesday's Dynamite, it was
- 30:18revealed that Samoa Joe had struck a deal with the Devil. The Devil's Henchmen
- 30:22are the new ROH Tag Team Champions And depending on where you are and stand
- 30:26on the storyline, you either really like what's going on, You're kind of
- 30:30mild to what's going on and you like and dislike some stuff, or you
- 30:33completely hate what it's going on with this Old Devil storyline and the involvement of
- 30:38Samoa Joe and MJF in and out of this entire thing. Let me start
- 30:42by saying that, and I rarely get like this, but I am an
- 30:47old school wrestling fan. The ROH Tag Team Championship was at one time considered
- 30:53one of the highest tag team titles in all of professional wrestling. The fact
- 30:59that right now it's held by two people whose identity we have no idea they
- 31:02are, and these Devil Henchmen is not ideal. But it's also not ideal
- 31:07that the title was on MJFF and Adam Cole was being barely defended, wasn't
- 31:11on the ROH Final Battle a couple of weeks a while ago as well.
- 31:15The Samo Joe Devil twist. I kind of wish this played out a couple
- 31:19weeks beforehand. I know MGFF has been hurt, but this has been a
- 31:23mild feud from my standpoint. There's meaning behind it, but it's been been
- 31:29kind of mild, and I think a lot of that has to do with
- 31:32the injury then obviously playing up of what's going on with the Devil's henchman as
- 31:36well. Doctor Trey, your thoughts on this match, the storyline, and
- 31:40who you think walks out as aw World Champion on Saturday Night. So I
- 31:45think it helped this storyline a little bit, like it kind of gave another
- 31:49twist to it. So it's like, Okay, well now I'm a little
- 31:52bit still interested in who this is. I don't hate, like I don't
- 31:59hate that two masked men who we don't know are the tag team champions.
- 32:04That to me is a little bit of a throwback to the old days when
- 32:07you'd have like the mass Superstars and things like that. I do hate what
- 32:09they've done with the ring aboutter tag team titles, and a lot of that
- 32:13was because of the injuries. So, you know, I don't mind that
- 32:15the Devil's rejects have the belt right now. I just like that name better
- 32:20than the Hitchman. It's just it did give a little bit of layers to
- 32:25this, because that was one of things gonna plain about that was that they
- 32:28weren't really doing a whole lot with the storyline, and now that they are,
- 32:31it's like, okay, well you're giving a little bit to it,
- 32:34a little bit of substance to it alone. And I think a lot of
- 32:36it has to do with the Adam colandery. I think it's gonna still come
- 32:38out that at this point. I feel like it is almost gonna be certain
- 32:42to be revealed that it is Adam Cole, you know. So I guess
- 32:47I didn't hate it, but uh, it just adds more to me if
- 32:52I go, Okay, well you're gonna give the spin to it. But
- 32:54I just still don't think that samo Joe's they got to take the belt off
- 32:58MJF. So I'm taking MG after retain. But maybe the kind of shot
- 33:02their watt a little bit too early with even somehow with Joe being revealed as
- 33:07striking a deal with the devil, because now that shows to me that he
- 33:10knows who the devil is. So that's one more persons who it is.
- 33:15I guess. I guess essentially, so you're taking MG after retain, right,
- 33:20I guess essentially it It may but you can still have an agreement with
- 33:24the devil without actually working with the devil in the storyline. It's just weird
- 33:30saying this out loud. I know. But I to me though, like
- 33:34you don't make a deal less you know who you're dealing with. That's logic.
- 33:37Maybe maybe people tagged with Ray Mysterial all the time and they may not
- 33:42know what he looks like under the mask. Yeah, but you know,
- 33:45like you've got twenty years of Ray experience, you kind of know what you're
- 33:49getting with, Like this is a brand, you know. This is when
- 33:52when wrestling becomes real. It's like, look, if this is reality,
- 33:54I'm not striking, I hear you. But if you're going for a world
- 34:00MPIP, you're making a deal with the devil. I mean, do you
- 34:01really need to know who's under the mask? I gotta know that you're gonna
- 34:06be carry your end of the bargain. I don't know, I don't know.
- 34:08I understand where you're coming from, but I still think that you know
- 34:13you don't need to know who the actual devil is by playing this all out,
- 34:17I'm gonna take MJF as well, and I guess while we've got this,
- 34:20we've got a little bit of still extra time here if we want again.
- 34:24I had originally thought that the devil was going to be revealed as Don
- 34:28Kallus and his family like Kenoski Takeshka, Will Hobbs, Kyle Fletcher, Sammy
- 34:34Cavara. It had been four people. The build of all those henchmen resembled
- 34:40the Don Kallis family build. I also think at times, I think we
- 34:46figured maybe it's going to be Adam Cole, Roger Strong, Matt Tavin,
- 34:52and Mike Bennett. Maybe you've thrown Kyle Riley, who is set to return
- 34:55as well. But none of those wrestlers kind of fit the build that has
- 35:00been out there, especially the very muscular one, unless they add like Wardlow
- 35:04to it. Who could be you know, that big bulky devil's henchman.
- 35:09I also thought a point said it was going to be sort of Strickland and
- 35:13the mobile Embassy because of the build of the big muscular one, which would
- 35:16have been Brian Cage. Then you've got the Gates of Agony in there as
- 35:21well, and Prince Nanah. I don't I don't know the direction here.
- 35:27And then obviously as people have gone back to thinking that maybe Jack Perry as
- 35:30well, whether that's the way that you reintroduce him to television, I don't
- 35:35know who's it going to be. I think they're running into a problem right
- 35:40now that people are losing a little bit of interest and maybe they want to
- 35:44reveal it at aw Worlds N on Saturday night, which that may be the
- 35:47plan, and the plan also needs to be considered, like if it's not
- 35:53ran on Saturday, I think I don't think it will. I think they'll
- 35:57probably reveal it once MGF drops the time, which Doctor Trey and I both
- 36:02don't think will be Saturday. Will the reaction meet our expectations? Like I
- 36:09think if it's not anybody outside of Adam Cole, we are disappointed. This
- 36:16could have the higher power type reaction from we back in what ninety nine when
- 36:22it was revealed as Vince, which was a decent twist I liked at the
- 36:25time at the time as a kid. But I think a lot of people
- 36:28refer that storyline as being a little bit underwhelming Where are you sitting on this
- 36:34right now, Doctor Trey? Who who do you think is behind the mask?
- 36:36I guess ultimately, I mean, I guess you've kind of said that
- 36:38already with Adam Cole. Who do you think is behind it? Who do
- 36:42you think is revealed? Do you think it happens on Saturday's pay per view?
- 36:45I mean, I'll sorry, I don't think it happens at the pay
- 36:49per view. I think you hang on to a little longer event especial if
- 36:52you're Gonn put the ring of Monter tag belts on, you know, the
- 36:53two mask guys, and it just it would feel kind of like, you
- 36:58know, everybody pulling their mask off at work. They feel like a Scooby
- 37:00Doo episode when it comes to like who, I think to me, like
- 37:06you have to look at it as whoever this is has to become the biggest
- 37:09villain in your company, and so you have to look at you who your
- 37:13top people are. Like if they were to reveal Sting as the devil,
- 37:19like right before you know, his last match, his last match is him
- 37:22and m j F, Like that'd be really cool, Like I'd be all
- 37:25about that, you know, just Sting turned heel right before he leaves,
- 37:30you know. You know that's why like I take I take Jack Perry out
- 37:34of the mix, because I just don't think you can put Jack Perry as
- 37:37being the face in the focal point of your company. To me, it's
- 37:40got to be an Adam Cole, a swerve Stricklind, somebody that you've already
- 37:44either elevated or has already been a main inventor, you know, and line
- 37:49that up that way. The swarve thing be great because I just love to
- 37:52seeing not in a Devil's match behind him just dancing away like that'd be funny
- 37:55as hell too. So maybe it's stokely Hathaway and he's just say with how
- 38:00Ring of Honor has been booked for the last six months and he's the devil.
- 38:02The firm comes back in, but you have to present this. That's
- 38:07why everybody hated the Vince gimmick was because you had a chance to elevate somebody
- 38:10else and make them an instant main eventor. And I guess you could do
- 38:15that with Jack Perry. It's just Jack Parry's one hundred and fifty five pounds.
- 38:20It's just how do you elevate somebody who could get knocked over by a
- 38:23strong you know, Long Island breeze. That's why to me, it's got
- 38:28to be somebody you're either planning on making a face or a focal point of
- 38:31your company, or somebody's already in that spot. So that's why the Adam
- 38:35Cole thing makes sense to me. It's why it swerve makes sense to me.
- 38:37You know, like I just don't see anybody else on the radar unless
- 38:43they're just waiting for another free I mean, could it be a Dolph Sigler,
- 38:45you know, contracts coming up? And maybe that's why everybody's better masks
- 38:49because they've been waiting for that moment to reveal it to be Doll or somebody
- 38:53else. And I don't hate the the mass muscle guys because back in the
- 38:59aces an eighth days, you know a lot of those mask guys were just
- 39:01guys they had on the show, and then when they came out who everybody
- 39:05was? Half the guys they use under mask were not in the eighties and
- 39:08eighth groups. So talk about disappointing reveals, Yes, So I mean there
- 39:14is, I mean, is it? I just worry about this is going
- 39:16to go old school for a lot of younger folks. I just hope it
- 39:20doesn't heard like a Black Scorpion type thing where they're using one guy's voice and
- 39:23it gets revealed that it was you know, Rick Flair. The entire time
- 39:28that was a horrible, horrible angle because they had somebody else in mind in
- 39:32it the deal fell through. So it's kind of the same thing here.
- 39:36It's like maybe they had somebody in mind the injuries, say, the injuries
- 39:38that to Adam Cole through a wrench of the whole plans. They tried to
- 39:42readjust and drag it out, and hey, maybe it comes out Musafa,
- 39:45you know, and we get retribution two point zero you it'll be interesting.
- 39:50I do know that one of the henchmen going to the ring last night for
- 39:54the Ring of Honor World Tag Team title match against MJFF and Simojoe does have
- 40:00some sort of go tee because you could see that in the mass there.
- 40:05So I don't know the whole thing is. It's interesting. There's a lot
- 40:08lot lot writing on this for this to be a successful storyline, and I
- 40:14really feel like for me as a wrestling fan, the way that it gets
- 40:15best executed would be the reveal of Adam Cole behind this all entire thing,
- 40:21so we will see, we will see how this plays out. AW World's
- 40:23End comes to us again this Saturday from the Nasau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale,
- 40:28Long Island, New York. To everybody tuning into the pay per review,
- 40:31Enjoy the show, enjoy the weekend, stay tuned, stay tuned and
- 40:37everything. Maybe we do a special bonus podcast next week to recap and review
- 40:40AW worldsen on its own. Maybe we save it for the January eleventh edition
- 40:45of SRTU. But once again, next week's regular edition of the Still Realto
- 40:50Show will be on January the fourth. It's our twenty twenty four wrestling preview
- 40:53special. Enjoy the weekend, Enjoy the New Year's Eve and Day holiday until
- 41:01next week or the next time we get on here. Maybe do a bonus
- 41:05cas thank you for tuning in to this special edition of sr TU. For
- 41:08doctor Trey Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. This is mister Rotho show. Yeah,
- 41:14I mean it is. Sorry, Samley just came in and decided to
- 41:17hit me with a bawl. We're watching AW Talking Wrestling. I figure I
- 41:22think he just yes, I'm okay here in Matthew if I was okay.
- 41:24He just hit me the poor an object and then asked me if I was okay.