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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football vs Iowa State Game Preview (Episode 743) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: It's West Virginia and the Cyclones. Of Iowa State.
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  Speaker 1: for all Mountaineers, including you. Welcome to a new month.
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  Speaker 1: Four out of 12 games over for the Mountaineers. That's
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  Speaker 1: one third of the season, which means it's time to
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  Speaker 1: define yourself. Saturday afternoon, well, 11 in the morning, Iowa
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  Speaker 1: State time. It's West Virginia and the Cyclones of Iowa State,
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  Speaker 1: WVU's first true road game of the season after they
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  Speaker 1: played the home game in Charlotte. Moved the stadium down
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  Speaker 1: there to Charlotte for the Virginia game. And now things
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  Speaker 1: get really real. Significant for both of these teams. Iowa
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  Speaker 1: State coming off a home loss to nationally ranked Utah.
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  Speaker 1: They're 2-2. Their two losses are to ranked teams, Iowa
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  Speaker 1: and Utah. Two games that they were supposed to win.
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  Speaker 1: They did SEMO. They beat SEMO. It would be Southeast Missouri, right?
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  Speaker 2: SEMO.
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  Speaker 1: And had a really good women's basketball player there. What
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  Speaker 1: was her name? You remember that? I'll get it for you.
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  Speaker 1: She was like one of the all-time greatest scorers. Jackie?
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to check that now.
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  Speaker 1: Check Jackie. You're with me now. You're coming along.
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  Speaker 3: It's banging around in there somewhere, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What did you say, Southwest Missouri State?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it became like Missouri, Southeast Missouri.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we talking about a Southwest Missouri State basketball player?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's three guys before the game. And anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: they beat two teams they were supposed to beat. They
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  Speaker 1: beat two teams that they were supposed to beat, and
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  Speaker 1: now very important for them. Because they, obviously, they were
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  Speaker 1: bouncy after playing Iowa close. Thought they could get Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't work out. We'll get into all the numbers coming
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  Speaker 1: up here. Hoppy's got obvious observations.
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  Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham?
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  Speaker 1: No. No.
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  Speaker 3: She was at Missouri. She's now at the receiver.
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  Speaker 1: See, now I'm going to go off.
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  Speaker 3: You yell at him, and then you're down a rabbit hole,
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  Speaker 3: and you name one of the most popular players in
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  Speaker 3: the WNBA right now. That's not who he's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Fair point. Move on.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk Iowa State.
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  Speaker 1: I'm finding her name. Anyway, huge decision coming out of
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  Speaker 1: federal court on Wednesday, which we've been waiting for, which
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  Speaker 1: we've been anticipating, and be quite honestly, been rooting for.
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  Speaker 1: I personally, I'm going to go on record, I've been
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  Speaker 1: rooting for him. I've called him like three times, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, here's the deal. Here's the deal. Now, for
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  Speaker 1: those of you, we'll do the real quick count. Federal judge,
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  Speaker 1: rules that four WVU athletes now are immediately eligible to play. Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Two in basketball, which we'll get into, one baseballer, and
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  Speaker 1: one footballer. The reason I was jonesing for this to
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  Speaker 1: happen is because West Virginia, this coming season, is about
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  Speaker 1: to play players who have been granted a fifth year
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  Speaker 1: of eligibility. And my point to him was, dude, If
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  Speaker 1: we've got to go to Iowa State and play Taman Lipsy,
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  Speaker 1: their point guard, because he just got granted an extra year,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm going to be really bummed out if we,
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia, don't have that same opportunity. And fortunately, we will. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's good for now. Fingers are crossed that you don't
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  Speaker 1: get a stay, that you get an appeal. But things
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  Speaker 1: look good and favorable that These guys will play. I
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  Speaker 1: do know this. Footballers, right? We've got Jason Chambers, who
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  Speaker 1: will play this weekend for West Virginia. He will be
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  Speaker 1: on the field.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: He misses a couple games, but he gets the most
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  Speaker 3: benefit out of this ruling because he's inserted right away
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  Speaker 3: and can go. You're right on the other two, Javon
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  Speaker 3: Buchanan and Bilo in particular. You have to now fight
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  Speaker 3: off a stay, which may come on appeal. They're going
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  Speaker 3: to ask for that. Then you're going to have the
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  Speaker 3: appeal process. This is one of those, like, the longer
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  Speaker 3: it takes to schedule that appeal process, the better. Push
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  Speaker 3: that thing out of there. But, Tony, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: I actually was rooting for this as well from a
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  Speaker 3: selfish standpoint as a basketball fan and watching the construction
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  Speaker 3: of this Mountaineer basketball team that we've talked about has
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  Speaker 3: so much talent on it. I'm really looking forward to
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  Speaker 3: the season. You just solidified your four position and made
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  Speaker 3: it really good. This wasn't just getting one guy back.
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  Speaker 3: You get two guys that are really talented players. From
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  Speaker 3: the B-Lo perspective, and that's why I wanted this one
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  Speaker 3: to get through, and then what happens with eligibility is
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  Speaker 3: going to happen with eligibility. There's a lot of weird
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  Speaker 3: things going on in the NCAA, as we know. This
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  Speaker 3: is a rare opportunity, and I probably shouldn't say once
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  Speaker 3: in a lifetime because God knows what's going to happen
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  Speaker 3: in college sports. But to get a guy like B-Lo
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  Speaker 3: back to your team when you thought he was done,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's an NBA talent that is returning to
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  Speaker 3: your roster. It's a guy that in an era when
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  Speaker 3: all players are new, it's somebody that knows this Ross
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  Speaker 3: Hodge system and how it works, to be able to
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  Speaker 3: insert him back in a lineup, that's a huge boost.
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  Speaker 3: That isn't just getting a guy back or adding another
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  Speaker 3: player to your roster. That really might be a once-in-a-generation
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  Speaker 3: type of addition to your roster at the timing in
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  Speaker 3: which it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Quantify that in wins.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can't, but I think this is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, take a shot.
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  Speaker 3: It takes this team from being good to now being,
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  Speaker 3: all right, you've got a real shot here to make
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  Speaker 3: some noise in this Big 12, with B-Lo and Javen
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  Speaker 3: getting inserted here.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting as well that they both play the same position,
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  Speaker 1: as you indicate. You know what that does in practice?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They go at it. Yeah. You ever seen those National
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  Speaker 1: Geographic videos where those animals, they go after each other
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  Speaker 1: and they smack their horns together?
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  Speaker 3: That's actually a good analogy.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of how it looks in practice.
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  Speaker 3: These two in practice look like you're watching us playing
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  Speaker 3: Houston in January. I mean, they're getting some real good
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  Speaker 3: reps against each other. So this isn't just, hey, this
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  Speaker 3: is kind of good news. Okay, you get some players
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  Speaker 3: back that might be able to help somewhere. On the
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  Speaker 3: basketball front in particular, this is massive news. And listen, guys,
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  Speaker 3: Judge Bailey didn't mess around with the ruling. 66-page ruling
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  Speaker 3: that came out of here, and he didn't give it
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  Speaker 3: one of those, yeah, we kind of think this is
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  Speaker 3: the way to go. Let's just, we'll play it out
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  Speaker 3: a little more. He absolutely eviscerated the NCAA, called it
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  Speaker 3: a mess. That's a direct quote.
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  Speaker 1: That's a legal term.
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  Speaker 3: One of the arguments that the NCAA has been making
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  Speaker 3: in all of these cases is that these players that
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  Speaker 3: are returning were stealing roster spots. He said there is
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  Speaker 3: no evidence found that that is the case, and it
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  Speaker 3: certainly wasn't the case for these four. It was a
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  Speaker 3: strong opinion, not kind of a wishy-wash opinion. It was
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  Speaker 3: a strong takedown of the NCAA by Judge Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the NCAA should just give up on this. No,
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  Speaker 2: they should.
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  Speaker 1: They recuse themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just look. they have adopted five for five, right?
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  Speaker 2: So all this does is say we're starting sooner than
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to start it. Just let it go and
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  Speaker 2: move on. Believe me, probably now this Protect College Sports
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  Speaker 2: Act probably is going to pass. So worry about that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about this.
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  Speaker 1: They should have announced this like January 6th of next year.
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  Speaker 1: That's when they should have done five for five. So
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  Speaker 1: these guys would not have been playing. Right? And you're
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  Speaker 1: just going to say, that's what it is. Anyway, they
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  Speaker 1: misplayed it. By the way, for those of you scoring
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  Speaker 1: at home, Jackie Stiles, all-time leading scorer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes. Yeah, she was pretty good. 3,393 points.
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  Speaker 1: Became the first women's basketball player to ever score over 1,000
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  Speaker 1: in a single season.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just glad. That's not the name of the lawyer
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  Speaker 3: from Seinfeld, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Stiles.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, how many rabbit holes are we going down today?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just... No, I don't think it was.
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  Speaker 3: He started it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to jump in. You accused me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, fine. We're done. We're done. We're done playing
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  Speaker 1: silly games. Play silly games and silly prizes. Well, now
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to put you in the name of the lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: He's got thoughts that sound brand new. But they're things
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  Speaker 2: we already knew. He's got his whip bomb ready.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't know Jackie Stiles, I'll tell you that much.
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  Speaker 3: Jackie Stiles.
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  Speaker 2: When are we taping?
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  Speaker 1: Are we still? yet? No, we haven't started. We're just
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  Speaker 1: making sure the mic levels are good. All right, what's
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  Speaker 1: the guy's name? Jackie Stiles? That's the attorney? Yeah, from Seinfeld. Okay. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: In your world? I got stuck on this Oklahoma State game.
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  Speaker 1: And I know because it's going to be 24 hour rule.
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  Speaker 1: Rich is going to get very upset at you for
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  Speaker 1: continuing to bring it up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because I was looking for meaning out of it. OK,
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  Speaker 2: I look at and a couple of things. Rich Rodriguez said,
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  Speaker 2: and this is coach speak, but it's true. Brad, he
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  Speaker 2: said one game does not define us. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think that everybody after it was such a buildup
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  Speaker 2: after Virginia and then you the way you lost Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 2: But no, that game does not and should not define you.
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  Speaker 2: So you have a chance now to reset. And I
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  Speaker 2: think going on the road is not a bad thing
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  Speaker 2: in this instance.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you say that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, because you sort of get away from the hometown
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  Speaker 2: noise and you got actually more control when you're on
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  Speaker 2: the road. Just get away and go play. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's a bad thing necessarily. Number one. No,
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  Speaker 2: you disagree? Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not disagreeing. Off topic. No, no, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going off topic. I'm being serious. Okay. I was surprised
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  Speaker 1: at their field condition. This will be the natural grass
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  Speaker 1: field that West Virginia is playing on. And I watched
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  Speaker 1: their game last week against Utah. It's like, dude, like
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  Speaker 1: it's still September. Their field is beaten up.
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  Speaker 3: Historic rain.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 3: They are having what they call a once in a
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  Speaker 3: generation type of rain throughout Iowa through late summer and
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  Speaker 3: early fall here. Yeah, that's not a one on that.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't three days of rain there. It's been sustained
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  Speaker 3: months-long bad weather there.
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  Speaker 1: So it was getting chewed up during the Utah game. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they had a week to work on it. But don't
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  Speaker 1: be surprised that that thing starts coming up pretty relatively quick.
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  Speaker 1: And West Virginia hasn't played on it yet. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying one way or another. Rich Rodriguez actually has sent
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  Speaker 1: the specialty kickers this week, his punter and his field
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  Speaker 1: goal kicker, over to the women's soccer field.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Natural grass there. so that they can get some footwork done.
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  Speaker 2: Worth noting.
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  Speaker 1: Also, the Mountaineers will be wearing– they will travel with
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  Speaker 1: screw-in spikes, and they will probably have to put a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a longer spike onto their shoes. You
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  Speaker 1: don't use those when you're playing on artificial surface. So
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  Speaker 1: they will be wearing new shoes. They did wear those
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  Speaker 1: in practice this week to get those felt up. They've
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  Speaker 1: been putting– supports in those shoes to expand them during
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  Speaker 1: the course of the week so that their feet are
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  Speaker 1: good to go.
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  Speaker 2: Any metal cleats in there like the old days? Old days.
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  Speaker 1: Old baseball cleats.
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  Speaker 2: The stakes are really high. Let's talk narratives, Brad. If
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  Speaker 2: the defense plays better and the offense does what we
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  Speaker 2: think it can do, then the narrative is, okay, Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: State was a one-off, and now you're back on track.
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  Speaker 2: But if you lose, then the narrative is, oh, gee, uh-oh,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on here? So there are very high stakes
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  Speaker 2: in this game. each team coming off disappointing performances, so
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  Speaker 2: each team looking to get it right. I watched the
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State post-game press conference game with Rich Rod. It
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  Speaker 2: was seven, seven and a half minutes. He mentioned the
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  Speaker 2: word plan 17 times. 17 times. As in, the plan
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  Speaker 2: didn't work, get a better plan, the plan we had failed.
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  Speaker 2: And primarily he's talking about the defense there. Is... Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you go into a game, Brad, and you have a plan.
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  Speaker 2: This is what they do. This is what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do. Well, the plan failed. So get a better plan, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to do better with your planning
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  Speaker 2: for this game. I just thought that that word stood
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  Speaker 2: out to me about getting a better plan. Greg Hunter
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  Speaker 2: asked Rich Rod after the Oklahoma State game. This was insightful, too.
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  Speaker 2: You tried some things defensively, like a 3-2-6. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what you call it. Can you explain what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Rich Rod's response, shaking his head and scowling, it didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: So again, that gets back to plan. What are you
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  Speaker 2: going to do differently in this game? Also, what Rich
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  Speaker 2: Rod's talked about, and Tony, you've mentioned this too, three
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  Speaker 2: or four games in, what do you do? What do
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  Speaker 2: you do well? What can you do? Because you don't
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  Speaker 2: know in game one, game two, you're trying some things.
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  Speaker 2: By now, you should have some idea, right? What is
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  Speaker 2: it you do? What is it you can do well?
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  Speaker 2: What is it you can't do? Because that's big too.
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  Speaker 2: So by now, you should have it sorted out. So
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  Speaker 2: you look for, Brad, I think, better performances because now
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  Speaker 2: you're taking some parts of the playbook and saying, that's out,
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  Speaker 2: we can't do that. And defensively, you're saying, we can't
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  Speaker 2: do that, let's do this. You agree?
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  Speaker 3: To some extent, yeah. But I do also say it's
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  Speaker 3: going to look different this week than it did last
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  Speaker 3: week because your opponent is different. The opponent's allowed to
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  Speaker 3: have a plan as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure people know. So they actually get to
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  Speaker 3: call plays and do things that they think might work
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  Speaker 3: for them. I don't know if you know that. yeah
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  Speaker 3: so it's very matchup based so there there are different
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  Speaker 3: things that go into this week that didn't go into
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  Speaker 3: last week so right this will it will look different
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  Speaker 3: because the team you're playing is different.
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  Speaker 2: Okay agreed all right but also it is it's about
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  Speaker 2: what personnel can do too.
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  Speaker 3: So offensively you know i think that's already established yeah
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  Speaker 3: i think offensively you know that defense has to be
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  Speaker 3: a little more reactive based on the other team and
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  Speaker 3: i'll get into some of that but This quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: not performing at the same level that the quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: you just faced and does some things differently that last
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  Speaker 3: week's quarterback did. Your defensive plan is going to look
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  Speaker 3: different this week.
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  Speaker 1: When you were talking about their defensive plan last week,
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  Speaker 1: and you mentioned the 3-2-6, in essence, the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: boiled down to the inability to get pressure to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Rich said it before the game. He said it after
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  Speaker 1: the game. If you let a quarterback that has great skills,
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  Speaker 1: and even one that doesn't even have great skills, but
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  Speaker 1: if you allow them just to set their feet and
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  Speaker 1: to throw out there, as they would say in the UK,
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  Speaker 1: at his leisure, at his leisure, if he throws at
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  Speaker 1: his leisure, he's going to hurt you. And that to him,
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  Speaker 1: I think, was the biggest level of frustration, the inability,
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  Speaker 1: whatever scheme you were playing, of not to impact the quarterback,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: make him move his feet, make him move on the run.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: That to me was the biggest difference.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: And that's certainly a start. But, Javi, how many times
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: do we say it? Someone's got to get off a block, too.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: You can draw up whatever you want. Someone beat the
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman and go get the quarterback. How about someone
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: guard on the back end instead of having guys just
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: run wide open? So I know we always point at
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the coaches so much. But at some point, you've got
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: to start playing, man. Someone's got to actually make some plays,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: especially on the defensive side of that. We've seen offensively
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: you have guys that will take the ball and say,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: give me the ball.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go make a play.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: That defense has to have some people step up this
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: week and hit somebody in the face and stop somebody.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: And look, the last week's game was a defensive failure.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And the offense did pretty much enough. I mean, the offense,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: and Rich Rodriguez said, I think, after watching tape, okay,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: the offense, there were some things they didn't do either.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And I went back, late third quarter, WVU trailing 28-24.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: WVU's driving. They're in Oklahoma State territory. Second and two
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: from the Cowboy 42. Three tries. all runs, turn the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: ball over on downs. So that was a major fail
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: by the offense at Tony at that point in the game.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, no question about it. Oh, yeah, this isn't
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: all on the defense. He scored 24 points. He's got
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to score more than 24 points to win.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: He's got to score more. Let's see. We talked about
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: both teams coming off disappointing losses. Cyclones could not stop
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: the run or the pass against Utah. Dampier threw for
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: 206 yards, two touchdowns. Way Sean Parker ran the ball
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: 18 times, 174 yards and two touchdowns. So he didn't
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: have any footing problems. So maybe, and Brad, you'll talk
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: about this, that West Virginia can do what it likes
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: to do. Uh, let's see. Homecoming. Okay.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Whatever. Let's see. Why'd you blow off homecoming? People like homecoming.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: People come home.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: It's their homecoming. Well, look, I like Iowa state. They
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: got great fans. They'll have a good crowd. It'll be,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: it'll be a good, it'll be a good environment.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. It always is. Yeah. I can't remember. I
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: forgot that it's been since 2022 since we've been there. Really?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Been a bit.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: What the heck?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Been a bit.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: There's some, you know, Rainer's their quarterback. And again, the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Senator will get into numbers. There's some... You know how
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: fans are. There's some grumbling there because he's not been
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: passing well. And the most popular guy in Ames is
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the backup quarterback, who's an Iowa kid. I forget his name.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Moberly.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Moberly. So there's like, oh, what about good Moberly?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I have to say, I'll come clean.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: And it's been a while, but I think there's some
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: past trauma with West Virginia fans and backup quarterbacks.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: True.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: There is a part of me saying....
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Don't put Moberly in there and throw for 390 all
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: of a sudden. Some dude that hadn't played.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I do have a little bit of that heading into
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: that because they are starting to grumble about the offensive performance.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And you're right.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's the passing game in particular. So I have a
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: little past trauma from backup quarterbacks here this week. So
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: just kind of let's watch that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And Moberly plays a little bit.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Mike, they get him in there.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So the trauma started in 1996 by Oscar Davenport.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Oscar Davenport's one. Jet Duffy's one.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Like, shut up.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: We know far too many names of backup quarterbacks from
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: other schools.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Didn't Duffy win the Heisman against us?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Last week.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Three.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: They gave him three Heismans.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Last week, Utah. I was watching Utah and Dan Pierce
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Helmet got knocked off. Brought in Bird Ficklin. And I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: went like, not Bird Ficklin. Don't bring Bird Ficklin out
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of the field.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So there's already.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: So I hope you don't say Moberly's name on Saturday.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I'll do respect to the young man. I hope he
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: has a wonderful career.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: There's no... Supposedly, there's no quarterback controversy, but you wonder
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: if there's a little bit of a hook on Rainer.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: No, they got money in that dude.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: They got money.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: He's came from Arkansas State. Arkansas State. A lot of talent.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to get into him.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: He's an important part of this game. He's got a
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: lot of talent and skill. His passing game hasn't found
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: footing yet, but he's got some talent.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Looking at the Iowa State message boards, it isn't about why.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Are you doing that. What did you do? What did
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you do? Why would you go there?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Because I want to see what they are saying.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Who's they? You think that represents the actual people?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. Proceed.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: No. Proceed.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Well, just that they are– there's anxiety there because they've
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: lost two games and got beat bad by Utah. Like, okay,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: who are we? What's this team going to be? We're
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: not sure. You know, new coaching staff, new players. They've
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: lost a couple games. What is this exactly? I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that's an accurate reflection of the fan base at Iowa State.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: You know, they're interesting guys. Again, I'll be.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Now, don't be taking shots at them. As an Iowa native,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't be taking shots at them.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I'll be honest here. I was hoping after a historic
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: 10-year run with Matt Campbell in not only stability but
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: level of success that that program had. I mean, Matt
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Campbell was fantastic for that particular school. I was hoping
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: that there was some regression to the mean historically, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Iowa State would come back to the pack. All those
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: new players, new coach, take a while to figure out
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. West Virginia's not been good against them.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Lost four out of five? That stunned me, too, when
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I saw that. So I was hoping they'd come back
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to the pack.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Just like Oklahoma State did.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you roll in and say, OK, thanks for
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: having us, Ames.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: We're out.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: We just got another win. They have impressed me way
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: more than I thought they would impress me at this point.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Rogers can coach, guys. I think that might be
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a great hire by Jamie Pollard, outgoing AD, found a
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: guy that A lot of success at the FCS level,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: success at Washington State, and the similarities are what we
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: saw last week. It's a new coach with 80 new players,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: but brought a ton of guys with him that know
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: the system, especially defensively, and what's been the unit that's
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: ahead of the other one.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: The defense.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: The defense is playing pretty well. So, yeah, this is
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: not one where you go in and get a team
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: that's laid down by any stretch.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And finally, the Protect College Sports Act has passed the U.S. Senate,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and I won't get into that. We'll talk about it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Well, let me just ask you this. Yeah. Let me
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: ask you this. So you know how this stuff works there. Yes,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it did pass the Senate. But I hear like it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: might struggle to get approval in the House. What's history
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: tell you on that?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, the same thing, but the fact that it
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: passed the Senate overwhelmingly, like 77-22 or something like that.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So I mean, with bipartisan support. So there's some momentum.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't a 51-49 thing. So there's some momentum.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So you think, OK, that gives it a legitimate chance
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: of passing the House, which They're not going to take
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: it up before the midterms.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: So that's potentially a little loss of momentum there as
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: it has to sit for a couple months maybe.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And again, I won't go through everything, but I have
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: looked at the different– I think it's a good framework.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It's not perfect, but I think it's a really good
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: framework that sets things up. I'll just mention one thing
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: about it is that thanks to the SEC and the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Big Ten, they now– the new number is 49 million, okay?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about $ 21 or $ 22 million on
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the rev share and then $ 27 million on NIL, air
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: quote there. And that's okay. I mean, look, West Virginia
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: is not going to be a $ 50 million pay-all-athletes number.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: But you're going to be competitive. You're going to be
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: in the 40s. You're going to be in the 40s.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: It will get to high 40s. I mean, it's going
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: to get right up on what the total is. You
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: may not start there. You'll be there pretty quickly.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So some of the complaints will be, wow, 49 million,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: and a lot of schools can't compete with that. But
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you know what? You never could. There's always going to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: be a certain number of schools, and some of that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: number fluctuates from time to time, a number of schools
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that just have more stuff. But as long as you're
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: in there, and West Virginia is definitely in there, in
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the middle to upper middle, You're fine. You're fine. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the framework is positive overall for having some rules. And
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the antitrust provision, which gives the NCAA protection so you
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: can enforce some rules. That's absolutely critical. They think they can.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: There's some others on the other side that says there's
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: a ton of challenges that they're opening themselves up for.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is it's something and it
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: starts you somewhere. And I think if the financial part
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: If people will agree to follow those rules, that's still
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing. And so far in college sports history,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: people have not followed the rules. Well, some haven't. There's
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: some that haven't, though, is what I'm saying. For this
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: to work, all schools have to follow the rules and
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the payment. If they do that, West Virginia is still
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: in a great spot. They're going to be right in
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: that mix. But that's the biggest thing. What's the enforcement level?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: And will schools follow this? Because they didn't follow the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: $ 20 million cap. It was supposed to do the same thing.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: And before that thing was even implemented, there were schools
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: going right around that. So yes, is it better than
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: what you have? Probably in some areas. There's still some
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: challenges coming to this. You probably didn't involve the athletes
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: as much as maybe you should have.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: But it's better.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But you've got to follow it. You've got to play
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: by the rules or we're going to be off track
• 25:07
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• 26:59
  Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about? Well, so football-wise,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: how it impacts, right? Jason Chambers, who actually knows this
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: defensive scheme, having played here last year, recorded over 30 tackles,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: played in each game. and uh just a guy that
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: everyone really likes on this team and in that locker
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: room been practicing so immediately saturday good he's on the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: field he will be in the rotation he'll get on
• 27:24
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• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Which gives some help to that defensive backfield so that's
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: that's similar to what we said about below it's getting
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: a guy back that knows your system that you can
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: plug in right away and yeah you got to play
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: your way into some more football shape but Getting him
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: right away, that's a nice boost.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: The free agent acquisition picked up in the midweek.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Had a roster addition just when he was on free
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: agent wire. Oh, he was on waivers and picked him up.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. I do remain just, it takes
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: my breath away. And I don't know if I'm giggling
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: inside myself or I'm just sitting there shaking my head.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: When I'm putting my football charts together for the week
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and I add two new players and it's October.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm putting, we got this guy this week and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we got this guy this week.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: It came off practice squad.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Listen, guys, here's my stance. I've said it many times.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I am glad West Virginia is in the business now
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: of what some other schools have been doing to West
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Virginia for a long, long time. Adding guys in that
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: then play well, that then go on to win Big
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: 12 championships. Here comes DeSosa. They're hanging banners in their gym.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: And we're over here going, well, how'd that happen? Now,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: how'd they add a new player there in the middle
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: of the season, Oppie, that then double doubles against you
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: and maybe wins you a banner?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: So good.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I hope Chambers goes in and has seven pick sixes
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to start this game, and you get a win. And
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I hope B-Lo averages 40 a game, and we walk
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: in high-stepping. It's about time we get some payback from
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: other schools that have been doing this for a long time.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: You know, if the world champion Mountaineer basketballers go in
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: there on 2 January into Allen Fieldhouse and find a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: way to get a victory, which would give them back-to-back
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: wins inside Allen Fieldhouse, but if they do that, I'm
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: going to have to sedate you On your way out.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Will I go Khalid Al-Amin on top of the scores table?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You're going to go up top and just go like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Sylvia DeSosa, Sylvia DeSosa.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You screwed us with Sylvia DeSosa. Now, here's the only thing.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: We got a couple off the waiver wire.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So did they.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: They are loading off the waiver wire. That changes their
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: team significantly. I was going to say, you know, Brad, Brad.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: That changes them significantly. Hey, Brad, I'm going to do
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a Brad. You know, other schools get to do that, too.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: This wasn't a one-way street. Judge Bailey's not the only
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: one ruling on this.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: And Kansas, in particular, in all seriousness, their basketball team,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest beneficiaries of this, most likely with
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: multiple players.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: And also, if you are a... are a coach or
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a program that aggressively deals with the rules... Whatever the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: new standard is, you may go beyond that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Trust me.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: So you got that to deal with.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: You know, we also have been negligent in not mentioning
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this also adds an arm in the Mountaineer baseball roster. Yeah,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Ben McDougal from Bridgeport was so big in the postseason
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: last year after he came back missing most of the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: season with injury. He came back late and was a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: huge spark. in that run to Omaha. So, yeah, he's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: back in the mix now.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Now, our baseballers went to Indiana last weekend.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Super secret scrimmage. Baseball must be doing those secret super scrimmages.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So, what, you can't say the result?
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Nah, I don't think you can.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So, how'd we do?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Really well, I think.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard. I hope the NCAA police is
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: not there. We're going to go to jail today.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: They don't have any jurisdiction yet.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: They put a little video clip out there, just like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: really flashy little stuff, like food trucks and all that. Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: The baseballers did well. Speaking of that, a real side
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: note here. Did you get a chance to watch any
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: of that Road to Omaha that they just put out?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I know it released yesterday.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not all the way through, but it is worth
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: your time. It's found on YouTube, but you can go
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to the baseball social media pages.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Elite. It's really good. Junior on there? Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, Junior's on there?
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Heard him a couple times.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: People are still, and always will be, but it's amazing
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the staying power of that. Because if you talk to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Mountaineer fans and you're just talking like a sports, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: they go, hey, were you in Omaha? I mean, that
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: comes up all the time.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: We said it while it was happening. That is an all-time, all-timer.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Because it was so unexpected and came up for a
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: program that you'd watched, but you hadn't followed that closely.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: And then I do think they benefit from three of
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the major stars. You could go down the line of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: more than that. But the very high-end, most high-profile guys
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: are back. And Gavin Kelly and Armani Guzman. I had
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Chanson Cole in there.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And on that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Tyrus Hall, Matt Ines. I mean, you can go down
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the line up there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And you know what? But now fans are saying, no,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't make it to Omaha this year. I'll go
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: next year. Like, wait a minute. It's hard to get there.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'll say this. If West Virginia goes
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: back to Omaha, and hopefully it'll be sooner than later,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but the FOMO that a lot of fans experience by
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not going, There will be 1.3 million Mountaineer fans in Omaha.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: You thought we took a lot last time? Well, heck,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: the three of us, we might move to Omaha. We
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: might be based out of Omaha.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: We go back again.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Everyone who went last time will bring nine new people
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: with them because they've been chatting. It'll be crazy. It'll
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: be absolutely crazy.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Hard to get there, though.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: All right, so time to get into these numbers. You
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: said you got one number that makes you go, ooh.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I got some stuff.
• 32:25
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• 32:27
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• 32:30
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• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So I was going to start with what you mentioned
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: with the field. I do think that's an issue. First
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: of all, just playing on natural grass is different, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the rain that they have received in central Iowa will
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: be a factor in that. So it's something to keep
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: our eyes on, although the forecast looks like it's going
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: to be a perfect football day in the 70s by
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: kickoff time, sunny. So hopefully that dries it out some.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: And we start there because of what West Virginia does
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: on the ground. Let's roll through some of these matchup
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: parts of this. If you take out, Hoppy, the three
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: service academies, Set them aside for a second. West Virginia
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: is leading the nation in rushing yards at nearly 300
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: yards per game. So fourth overall behind only the service academies.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: And you're running at a rate that is pretty close
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: to the service academies.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Stop right there.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: He just threw that out there.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I was going to let that fly. Like a year ago,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a year ago, West Virginia's leading rusher had less than
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: 375 yards for the season. Yeah. That's 12 games.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: The leading rusher had less than 375. I think it
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: was like 330-something, right? Dior Hubbard. Dior Hubbard.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: What's Cook had now?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He's over 500.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Both guys that passed that number.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got two guys that have passed the season.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So my point to that is, okay, if you are
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: piece by piece trying to look for areas of improvement, okay,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: running the football, check. Now, obviously, there are other things
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to fix, but that is a huge. I mean, most people,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: if you were as bad as you were running the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: ball last year, if you could be like eighth in
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the Big 12 this year or seventh in the Big
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: 12 in running the football, you'd go like, here we go,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: getting a lot better. And you won. Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You're now leading the country outside of service academies. Here's
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the matchup, Hop. Iowa State, as we mentioned, has been
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: pretty solid against the run. They're averaging just three yards
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: per carry and are top 15 nationally in explosive run
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: plays allowed. So I'm going to get into you. You
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: hear us talking a lot about explosive plays in this segment.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: This is another day. West Virginia started last week with
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: another explosive. Cam Cook going 70-plus yards to start the game.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Who good on good comes out on top right there?
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Because you've got a good run-stopping defense so far against
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: an elite rushing offense in West Virginia. You look at
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: their numbers, too, and they're probably not empty stats that
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: you sometimes see at this time we mentioned. They played
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Iowa and they played Utah. Utah is really interesting offensively,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: which we're going to see that later. They're running some–
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: they have gotten– They have gotten much more creative than
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: they have been in the past, but they run it heavily,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: almost a new age triple option, as Jimmy Rogers called it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: So that's an impressive performance last week in the second
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: half against them. Both those teams, Iowa and Utah, are
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: in the top 30 in rush yards per game. So
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: it's not like they haven't seen good rushing offenses here
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: when you're talking about this Iowa State defense. Much like
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: West Virginia last week, Iowa State really struggled to tackle.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: They came out of that game saying defensively they just
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: did not do their normal job of wrapping people up.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: We talked on Sunday about West Virginia's inability to tackle
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: one of the most missed tackle games that West Virginia's
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: had in the last few seasons.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: That's been the storyline all week for Iowa State. It's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: got to improve the tackling. They missed, what, 23, 24 tackles,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: something like that?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's another little side note here. Which defense
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: tackles better? But if you're Iowa State, now you're staring
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: down the barrel of Cam Cook, who's fourth nationally in
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: missed tackles force. You're looking at Michael Hawkins, who leads
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: all quarterbacks nationally in missed tackles force. So you're a
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: group that was worried about your tackling. These are not
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: the two that you want to come see running against you.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Here's a point that's just counter to what you just said.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I understand and I agree with you. They are missed tackles.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: But when they do tackle, they're very physical. I mean,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I watch that Utah game. Like, when they finally do
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: get you, they get you. Very physical team.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Well, you could say that about West Virginia.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, very much.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, we came out of the Virginia game. The
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: guy's got his helmet turned sideways. You're laying wood on people.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Nick Taylor had a play last week that if West
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Virginia had won that game, we might have put it
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: on a loop in here. He came up and blew
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: up a bubble screen play. He took a running start.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: And that was one of those, he's staring right at
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the receiver like, oh, you want to block me?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Here we go. and ran straight through him and blew
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: that play up.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So West Virginia will be physical as well. But there's
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: a difference between just hitting somebody and not wrapping up.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: If you don't wrap up Cam Cook, you've got a problem.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: And if you don't get near Hawkins and get a
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: couple people on him, you're going to have a bigger
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: problem on that. So the question here is, can West
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Virginia run it successfully down to down and then hit
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: with some explosive plays? Will the pass play, the explosive
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: pass play, come back into play for West Virginia? I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: still believe, even though you ran up and down the
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: field on Oklahoma State, that was a missing element last week.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: You didn't have that one or two big plays that
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: you get in the pass game that really opens up
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: the running game. You're getting an Iowa State team that's
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: excellent and explosive pass rate allowed, fifth among power four,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: 18th among power four when it comes to passing success rate.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: So the air game will be interesting this week for
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. You know you don't have to do it
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: a ton. but you've got to do it enough to
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: loosen that box up. That's a key we could talk
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: about every single week. Now, to be fair, when you
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: look at those explosive stat rates, Hoppy, Iowa not necessarily
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: known for its explosive air attack.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: No, right?
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: That's one of Iowa State's opponents. No, they're a little
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: better this year. They're a little better this year.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Same with Utah.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: They run it heavily as well. But that's also West Virginia, right?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're not known as a drop-back passing team.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: You're looking for targeted, a couple big plays throughout the
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: course of the game. What were you going to say?
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: You're smirking at me.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out what Hoppy's doing over there,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: but go ahead. I digress.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: All right, West Virginia.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: He went backpack on us. Pulled up the backpack. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly where he went.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: That's why I got my back to him. Turn your
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: back to him. I'm focused here. I'm not worried about
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: external noise. I've got a segment to get through here.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: West Virginia's passing EPA per play. They're expected points added. Again,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: this takes into each play how much closer are you
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to scoring points, and it rates that. West Virginia's 15th
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: nationally in that. averaging 12.3 yards per pass attempt, which
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: is 7th nationally in yards per play, or yards per attempt.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: So still continue, the numbers still show you you're pushing
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the ball down the field. Can you do it Saturday
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: against Iowa State? Hoppy, I think that's a critical part
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: of this offense. Now, flip that around, and you opened
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: with this. Can West Virginia's defense find improvement this week
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: against what's an offense that has struggled more through the year?
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to get into Jalen Rayner right now,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: but this is a, I mentioned earlier, a good-on-good matchup
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: with the run defense against West Virginia's run offense. This
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: is kind of the other side. This is two areas
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: of these teams that have been struggling. There's only four
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: teams in the Power Four ranks that have been worse
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: this When it comes to passing success rate allowed in
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: West Virginia, that's your down-to-down success for the opponent when
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: they throw the football. Only four teams worse than West
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Virginia so far. A lot of those numbers came last
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: week against Oklahoma State. But you're getting an Iowa State
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: passing offense that's in the bottom five power four teams
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: when it comes to their passing success rate. Which of
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: those wins out, Bob? Can they throw it? Can you
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: stop the run? Can you get a couple turnovers?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Or who loses less?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: That's a fascinating matchup and may decide the game. Both
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: teams want to run, but I think the passing for
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: both is critical and may hold the key to victory
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: here on either side.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Ding, ding, ding, ding. That's the whole game.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: We mentioned Rainer. He's completing just over 50% of his passes.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: So can you keep him in that range? Or does
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: he get back to where he was at Arkansas State,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: where it was closer to 70%? I think that's a
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: massive play in this. How much can you affect Jalen
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Rainer when they have to throw. Now, they're going to
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: want to run it as well, guys. Rainer can take
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: off and beat you with his legs. He's been very
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: good there. Their top running back has been Aiden Flora,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: 23rd nationally in rushing yards, and he's popped some big plays.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Eight yards per carry for Flora right now.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Old school. Came to the program as a walk-on. Old school.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Rainer's the second leading rusher. He'll have some designed runs,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: but he can also take off if the pocket collapses,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: averaging nearly eight yards per carry on scrambles. So now
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: you're back to the Deuce Bailey model. Can you get
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: back to getting pressure on the quarterback like you did
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: against Coastal, but just contain a little bit better when
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: he takes off and goes? Here's what I found interesting.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Is this the one you've been waiting on?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: It's not a one, but this narrative here will be,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I'm anxious to see how this works out for West Virginia. Stylistically,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: West Virginia is getting a different kind of run game
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: than what they've played so far. So it's not just
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a team that wants to run the ball. Iowa State
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: runs gap concept's on 67% of its carries, and I'll
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: get into what that means in a second. That's the
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: fourth most among Power 4 teams running these gap schemes.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: West Virginia has faced gap scheme runs on just 22%
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: of its opponents' carries, the lowest rate in all of
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Power 4. So it's a different kind of run game.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: So that's, instead of having the entire offensive line that
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: moves together, and then the running back is looking at
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: it and finding the crease, this is you try and
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: create a specific running lane And it's oftentimes done with
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: a pulling lineman. And I'll get into that here in
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: just a second. That creates the formation that that's the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: lead blocker is following a lineman out in space. So
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: they like to get those linemen on the move. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: they do it both ways. Sometimes it's the strong side
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: guard that pulls out or tackle that pulls out. Sometimes
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: they come from the backside as well. But only three
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: power four teams have used this play side pulling lineman
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: more than Iowa State has. So you're going to get...
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: We're back to another key this week is these linebackers.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: You're going to have to diagnose it. You're going to
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: have to handle a bigger offensive lineman coming at you.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Can you handle that when that happens? So nearly one
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: half of Iowa State's rush attempts are the pin pull
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: or the power, which is the backside lineman coming. So
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: it's either... The play side or the back side linemen
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: come in nearly half. That's pretty significant. So linebackers and
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: safeties are going to play a big role. Now, here's
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: one more stat. You've got to fix this because this
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: was very evident last week. West Virginia's defense ranks 66th
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: out of 68 power 14 in yards allowed before contact.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: That's got to be better. The line has got to
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: muck that up so the linebackers can drop down and
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: make some plays. You have got If you let Iowa
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: State do that, if that stat wins and they hold
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: you down at the bottom of the power four, then
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: you got a heck of a problem. Now, Iowa State's
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: only getting one and a half yards before contact. So
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: that's 49th out of 68 teams. So it's not like
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: they've been running it at an elite level. Oklahoma State had.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: They'd been getting a bunch of yards before contact. We
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: talked about that last Thursday. Iowa State has not, but
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: it's because they faced two pretty good defenses in Iowa
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: and Utah. West Virginia has not shown that it is
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: that caliber. Can it be in this particular stat and
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: stop them before yards, before contact, and handle those offensive
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: linemen on the edge? Keep an eye on that. I
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: just thought that was a... So we say West Virginia's
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: had some success at times stopping the run prior to
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: last week, but there's some nuance there. It's a different
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: kind of running game than you've seen so far.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: To me, this boils down to, oh, huge surprise, surprise.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: This is quarterback play. This is quarterback play. This is,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: can Michael Hawkins go out on the road? Can he
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: continue to do what he's doing in running the football?
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: And then can he connect on big pass plays? It's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: as simple as that. Conversely, can West Virginia take Jalen Rayner?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And Brad mentioned, yeah, he can run, but he's a 4'7, 4'8,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: 40 guy. And Michael Hawkins is one of the fastest
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: players in the country, especially at that quarterback position. And
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: this is the first time, despite the fact that Devin
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Dampier can run with the football, They don't run him
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: like West Virginia runs Michael Hawkins. So this is the
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: first time this year that you're going to have a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: dude that truly is the 11th offensive player, and he
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: can hurt you. And so to me, it comes down
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to that. Can Michael have what he's been doing, which
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: is just off the chart right now, averaging six yards
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: per carry? He's already scored nine rushing touchdowns, which is crazy.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Can he do that and then be more accurate with
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: his throws this week? Can you hit those plays? That's
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the thing. And then for Rainer, you know, West Virginia's
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: got a good scouting report on Jalen Rainer. He played
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: for Butch Jones at Arkansas State last season. So if
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you wanted to FOIA, if you wanted to FOIA the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: cell calls over the last couple of weeks, like, all right,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: give me the deal on this guy. And the word
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that they're getting back is like incredibly competitive. Kids love
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to play for him. You could see that. He's got
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: great leadership skills. But, you know, the stats also say
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that accuracy wise, like he'll give you one that's high
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and outside, and you've got to take advantage of those misses.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Well, some of that, he's in a totally different system
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: than he played at Arkansas State. So some of the
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: scout won't be applicable, and that's part of why he's
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: struggling to complete passes. He played in one system for
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: his whole career. Now he's trying to do something different.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Here's one other thing to watch. I'm interested to see
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: how this plays itself out. Tempo matters here. If you
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: look at how Iowa State normally wants to play this season,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: They're going to win with their defense, right? So they're
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: not going to press and go fast offensively. They're going
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: to be judicious with their tempo. But if you listen
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: to them this week, they talked about last week when
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: they had to start kicking it in and going because
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: they got so far behind Utah. They actually looked better offensively,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: and it may have fit Rainer a little bit better
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: to go up tempo and move it a little bit.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Not so much two-minute drill, but a little more speed.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: So what do they decide to do? Do they look
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: at this and say, do we have to slow it
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: down and try and keep it out of West Virginia's
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: explosive hands, but that maybe doesn't fit our offense best?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Or do we try and go a little bit? On
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: the flip side, we know how fast West Virginia is
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: going to want to go. Does that mitigate Iowa State's
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: ability to sub in? They'll do hockey line changes at
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: time on that defensive line. Can you get some benefit,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: as you want to if you're West Virginia, with some
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: tempo by holding their subs on the sideline and stepping
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: on that gas when you get a chance?
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And just get off the field. Get a couple stops.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Well, Rich talked about that extensively, and he's exactly right.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to make West Virginia's offense better, the defense has to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: get three and outs so that it can make that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: defense come back out onto the field again and again
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and again. And that's something they have not been able
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: They didn't.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: But if you go back to Oklahoma State, we keep
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: talking about what a bad defensive performance it was. And
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: I know you got gashed. But it was really the
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: late third into the fourth quarter where it really got ugly.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: That first half is probably more the template for right now, guys.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: There's going to be some bend, don't break on this defense.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: and you held them to a couple field goals last week.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: You got some pressure on a key third down, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Mestemaker throws it high. This isn't going to be, I
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: said it before, this isn't the 96 defense for West Virginia.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: You're not going to lead the country in defense. Get
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: some stops, some strategic stops, and get off the field.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: And now you've got to make a struggling offense continue
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: to struggle. Don't let them get well, because they're doing
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: the opposite of what we're doing. We're saying, okay, go
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: have a better defensive performance because Jalen Rayner's not been accurate.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: They're looking opposite, going, did you just put the film
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: on and see what Mestemaker did to them? Well, I
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: think we can be better this week. I think we
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: can throw the ball better this week against this defense.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Which of those narratives becomes true this week as your winner?
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• 51:00
  Speaker 1: so a couple of things on the healing line. First off,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I got a sweatshirt. Had a great time last weekend
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: at our food court.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: And there is a group of student athletes. They put
• 51:18
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• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you. You're the best. I would have forgot that.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: The West Virginia Wellness Society. And they're sponsoring, getting together
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a major breast cancer fundraiser as well. So thanks again.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: To the girls. By the way, Emily.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Emily Bryce, cross-country star, was at our food court last
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: week doing that.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: So, Emily, remember we interviewed her at B-Dubs there last week, hopping.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: She said her resting heart rate is 33. Yeah.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's a potential Olympian.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, don't go home and obsess over that. It's
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: a potential Olympian.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Don't try to get your heart rate down to 33. Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: She's a young farm lady from Canada.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she has soybeans.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: You knew that, right? And her dad raises soybeans.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's fantastic. She's almost like part of the three guys, too. Yeah,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: she's basically the fourth gal.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Running 80 miles a week in season, which gets her
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: to Flatwoods. So she runs to Flatwoods, probably the Go-Mart.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: She can see the Go-Mart there. She's coming in first.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: She goes to the first Go-Mart. Yeah, that second one
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: would be a little bit further down.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Or the left.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Like if you want to refer to it as.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: The one on the left. Wait, which way?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Left or right? Don't start because you think you're in
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Summersville and it gets all confusing.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, I did think we were talking about Summersville.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Help us.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I did think so.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Gosh. My bad. Texter, Rocky Mountain Alumni Game Watch at
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: the world-famous Nome in Denver. They had their big golf
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: fundraiser coming up there. That's a pretty nice place. That's
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: in Denver and it's all mountaineer. Excellent. Right?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Mountaineer fans show up.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Mountaineer fans are just like, doesn't matter where you are,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: what time zone you're in.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Got a flag up there.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: They flew the flag.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Good job.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: So thanks to those guys out there.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: That'll be an early start in Denver this Saturday.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I got several of these. Ten?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: No.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: It's 11 out there.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: It's 11 in Denver?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: It's 11 Central.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, 11 in Iowa. Yeah, it would be 10 in Denver. Yeah,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it would be 10 in Denver two hours back.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: You did a nice job there. You should work for
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: the Big 12 in time zones.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to paraphrase this next text. I got
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: several of these this week. There are people, and I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say there are people, I've received several texts of
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: folks that say they don't want to play, they don't
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: want to continue to play Sweet Caroline between the third
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and the fourth quarter of games because they feel, okay,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: it's immaterial, you're not playing Pitt, da-da-da-da-da. Just going on
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the record again, Brad and I, and I'll speak for Hoppy,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: we have recused ourselves from any game operations or suggestions.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: We don't do it. I know it's out there, and
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. Now, we've recused ourselves. Hoppy,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: if you want to go down the path, go ahead.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: You can't help yourself.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: You don't know how much this irritates me when he
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: recuses himself because he's part of the reason I'm out
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: of the business because he wouldn't recuse himself when I
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: was doing it. Now, all of a sudden, I'm not
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: going to talk operations. But I agree, we're out on operations.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: If you want to go, I'm not doing it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I'll make one observation, obviously. I happened to be in
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: the stands this past Saturday.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't say that. You were in a bougie box.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I was in a box.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I had good seats. You weren't on aluminum, I'll tell
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you that much. No.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I saw fans having great joy.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And to me, I understand the point. I mean, I
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: get I think you can make the argument. Well, I
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: think you can make the argument he's making. But this
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: whole game experience, which WVU does a really good job with,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: it is part of the joy. Let the fans have
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: the joy. That's my take on that.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: OK, welcome into the world of game ops here. This
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: is it because here you go.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: You're going in.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I am going in.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Because this is what happens. This is why it's so hard,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: because you get 10 people that email you that say
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: you don't like it. And it seems like it's an
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: overwhelming number, right?
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: And then you're sitting there, if you were at the
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: game on Saturday, and you're watching 60,000 people, you go, well,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: where are the 10 people that don't like it? Because
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: everybody's going bananas and loves this right now. Can't win here.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Can't win, huh?
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Can't win.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: There's my stance on game operations. Can't win when it
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: comes to music, boys. I tell you what, cannot win
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: when it comes to music.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say this to you. Hey,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: there was never anyone when you were working there that
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: complained about the music at the Coliseum before the game started,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: did you? Never received any of those.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Every single game.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Ha!
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Internal people, external people, older fans, younger.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Fans, parents. Why do you got to go after Hoppy's girl?
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Downtown would call me multiple times. Downtown would call me
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: on the music. Can you respond to this person? The
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: president got a call on this. Can you call this
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: person about the song choice? There's a reason everybody has
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: their own playlist now. It's hard to do music. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I thought the other night, as somebody that doesn't get
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: involved in operations, I thought that was a heck of
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: an environment, guys. I thought the DJing was great. People
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: were dancing and moving. That should be the goal of
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: the music in the stands is to get people interacting,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: and it certainly was the other night.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you held back.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Now I'm done on game operations.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: No, you can't.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: They did me right into that.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think people got up and got enthused when
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: they played Sister Golden here?
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what Sister Golden Hair is.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: It's a classic song. If you stop doing that, then
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: you want to get texts? Because you're going to get
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: texts then if you stop. Hoppy, I just want the
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: people to have joy. I just want them to have
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: joy like you, Hoppy. If you put out a release
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: that said, we're not going to do this anymore because
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: we think it's disrespectful to people. Wow, I wouldn't want
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to be on the fax machine on that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the point is, so the texter's not wrong. That's
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: their opinion on that particular music, right?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly, yeah.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: That's their opinion on that, and they're certainly entitled to that.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: There are others that are on the total opposite end
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: of the spectrum of that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Next text comes from T-Dub in Barbersville.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: But we're not talking about that. I'm done now. Now
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I am a boycott. Done.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Texter from Barbersville, shout out to Ren and his staff
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: for delivering the... Greatest atmosphere in college football. Except for
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: the loudest crowd I've ever been part of. It felt
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: like a Garth Brooks concert married 500 laps at Bristol
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Motor Speedway and Saturday's game was their first born. There
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: may only be a handful of Mountaineer fans in Cabell County,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: but you'll never see one of us waver when adversity hits.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: So to the guy at the hotel in Fairmont who
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: said that after 50 years, this one finally broke him.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: He's done. I'd say so long. And hopefully that frees
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: up extra space in the blue lot for Arizona. Have
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Hoppy AI Ren Baker as a Mountaineer quarterback, a mullet
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and a number 17 jersey, and he'd be Jake the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Snake Kelchner. That could be.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Jake the Snake reference.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Texter says, this is Jake Pittsburgh.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Another Jake.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Back-to-back Jakes.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Jake's our producer, too.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Wonderful job.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Bingo.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. I think Cignetti at Indiana messed with people's
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: perceptions on the time it takes to build a program.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: If you're not contending for a title year or two,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: people are calling for heads. People don't realize how much
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of a low point this program was in from 2019 on.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It takes time to lay foundations. This team is leaps
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and bounds better than the one last year, and anyone
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: who disagrees is just a hater. Texter, high, three guys, Jordan, Connecticut.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Is it true? Fine-looking Phil. is responsible for Pat McAfee's
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: wardrobe upgrade this football season. Looking like he stopped at
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Daniels before heading to Chicago Monday night. He did have
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a solid blazer on on Monday night. Is Phil taking
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: care of him, too? Don't know that. Can we look
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: into that?
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Pat would be wise to call Phil, though.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Phil would take care of that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Phil takes care of it. Handles it. Just go in.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: He'll take care of it.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Well, Phil's got Taylor back there. He can do anything
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: he wants.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: Master Taylor, not just a Taylor.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, give him a thing of fabric.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Bring in a bolt of fabric.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: A bolt.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: You know you go in there and you're ready for
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: something obvious sure he has really nice stuff you think
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: it does feels good no no i mean what episode
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: what episode is this 743 743 welcome aboard I'm just saying.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I knew he had nice... Feels good.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like when you wear it, it feels different.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not the best dresser.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: No, come on now. Don't say that.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Get that squared away.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: You've been going to film here recently.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in good shape. I got an outfit from him,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: and I was somewhere. Hey, that's nice. You look good. Yeah, welcome.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: You look nice.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The difference... Here's the difference. Not only the quality
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: of the material, right? Not only the quality, the colors,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: all that. He actually fits them.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Yes. That really is the case.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: When it actually fits, it makes it look completely different.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's because he has the tape measure around
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: his neck at all times.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: At all times.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: At some of these places you go in, you've got
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: to go back in the back and get the tape
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: measure and the pins. The pins are right in his
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: suit coat.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I love when he walks out of the store. Either
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: he comes out to the parking lot or he was
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: over at the food court last week and he still
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: keeps the pins in his In his cup. I love that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: That's a good look.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes when I'm redoing the mannequins there, and you've got
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: to take the pins out.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of pins in that business.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, you do that, too?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the pins never drop. They just go right in.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: No, I don't put them in mine.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: He puts them in his.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Well, he put a lot of pins in those shirts.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: A lot of pins. A lot of pins. Oh, that's nice. Texter,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I love the Mountaineers, always have. Through the good and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the bad, we as Mountaineers just want something good to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: happen for us. through these hard times. We don't have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the best economy, the best roads, but we have the Mountaineers.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: We just want our football to be great again. Hopefully
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: we will get there. I trust we will, but I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: truly miss winning games we should win. Waiting patiently for years,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: this is George in Princeton. Let's go, Mountaineers.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Look, there's no substitute for winning. I get that. But
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I had five of my boys in last weekend.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Are you going to talk about your boy? I mean,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: how many times have we heard about his boys?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: They're getting a lot of crap.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: They were wonderful guys. I enjoyed meeting them, too, but
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: they're getting a lot of love.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to see how he gets it in during
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: January in basketball season. Go ahead. You brought five of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: your guys.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no. You're sorry. No, go ahead.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not talking about them.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: No, I want to hear about your guys.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: They had a wonderful time. Disappointed in the loss, but
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the whole experience, the pregame.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Joy.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: They had joy. There they are again. Look, they're back.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Pop, these guys are back.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Show us Hoppy's guys again.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Geez.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Well, never mind. All I'm saying is that, yes, winning
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: is absolutely critical, but there is a totality to the experience. Okay?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Right? Well said. Well said.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Said a guy who goes to one game a year.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: You're going to go back there with 50-yard line seats.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: In a box.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: In a box.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: You're going to go back again. Oh, yeah. You'll be there. Again, it's...
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: You get excited. I see you when you're there game day. Like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: you got a little bounce to you. You like it.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Joy.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: We said he's found joy.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: He's got joy. You found this joy in Omaha, and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: it has not left you.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: It's carried over.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: This joy thing. What a concept.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: It's new to me.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: It's new to me.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Texter. Okay, fellas. Rate my plate. one Mary B., and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: one bacon biscuit from Tudor's in Huntington. I'm not saying
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: that Ben Cutter could not eat five, but if he did,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I'd pay for the next five. Well, there you go.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Those are those cat head biscuits. Got the bacon down
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: there in the middle bifurcating the two biscuits, which is nice.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Those are good.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: But you know what? Tudor's serves more than just biscuits, Hoppy.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: They do?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: They've got those high-protein bowls, the low-carb, high-protein bowls going
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: on right now. And if you don't want to just
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: do the biscuit, they've got the sausage protein bowl, 39
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: grams of protein. If you ate two of those, that'd
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: be 78. I mean, I'm just doing public math, and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: it's kind of scary.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a long way to your daily goal there.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. You can knock out two right there,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: a bacon protein bowl at 30 grams of protein, or
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: the veggie bowl, which Brad leans toward in his new
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: refined eating, the vegetable protein bowl will give you 21
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: grams of protein, and that's nothing to sneeze at. Certainly isn't.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: So check him out this weekend, wherever it might be,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: during the day, during the night. You got a bunch
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: of options at Tudor's Biscuit World. Texter, our old professor Vinny.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: You ever notice that ever since he got tenure at
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: that college he works at in the old Midwest, now
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: he's back to writing. Like when he was on double
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: secret probation, he got chilled out. Now he's just back
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: in there, his feet are on his desk hop. He
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: knows he can't get whacked. Texter says, I think this
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: game against Iowa State will be very telling about the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: overall state of West Virginia football. Both Oklahoma State and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Iowa State are breaking in first-year head coaches with a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: majority of new roster. OSU seemingly caught a break with
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: some talent from North Texas. Iowa State may not be
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: so lucky, but if West Virginia can't take advantage of
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the situation and win one of these types of games
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: with a new coach and new roster, the optics are
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: bad and may be foreshadowing deeper problems.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Tony, I thought that I didn't say it, but I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: thought going into this three-game stretch, I thought if you
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: can get two or three, you're in good shape. So
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: get this. So the one that's gotten away is Oklahoma State. But, Brad,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: go get this one, right? You're right on track.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be a good one to get. You
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: get this, and you come out 4-1, you feel pretty
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: good about where you are.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: What's the line just stated?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: It's moving now.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's moving. What do we got?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: West Virginia was a very early favorite. It flipped and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: ran itself to 3.5 is as high as I saw
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: it get, which– Surprised me that it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Got over that field goal. Iowa State's favorite by three
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and a half?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that surprised me a little bit.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Well, because the money was coming in.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: And the computers, you're still dealing with some hangover, but
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Iowa State should be the same way. The computers don't
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: love West Virginia, but I don't know why they would
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: love Iowa either. So that's an interesting one that obviously
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: took some bets on Iowa State there, and it ran.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: It backed down to three, which that surprised me that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: it got over the three. I figured it would come
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: back a little bit, but it's sitting at three right now.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Which is for being home, so it's pick them. Did
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: you talk about the Moving Mountains event yet?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Let's get that in. That comes up next week.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get a great idea. So next week,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: once again this year for the second year in a row,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: which makes it our second annual, we are going to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Touchdown Terrace at the football stadium, and we are doing
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: a Moving Mountains for United Way, and we are going
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: to raise dollars. That's coming up on October 7th. Next week,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: we will have WVU student athletes with us as part
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: of the Golden Blue Enterprises. And this is a big
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: event for the United Way here in Monongalia and Preston County.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Had a great time last year. And among the items
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: that we'll do, they got food and all that kind
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So student athletes, it's good. We also will
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: auction off the pig.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: For the second year.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Rusty? Yes. We recently bought a pig from the 4-H store.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Fair deal at the Buckwheat Festival in Preston County. And
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: the pig will be available for sale. Last year we
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: got a wonderful number. I will auction it off.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Using your auction skills.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Auction it off. And so if you're looking for a pig,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: freshly produced, wonderful pig.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a lot of stuff that comes
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: out of there. A lot of pig. The only thing
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: you don't use is the oink. No, I'm not a pig.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: That's the old farm joke.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Old farm joke. And lastly.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: That's when?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Wednesday. Next Wednesday. Touchdown, Terrence. October 7th. Contact the folks
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: at United Way, Monongalia, Preston County. We'd love to have you.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: It's always a good time. Homeless is going to be there.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Homeless? He was here this morning.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Homeless stopped in this morning because it's International Coffee Day.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: And delightfully, delightfully, um, We have two guests in our
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: studio audience today. Once in a while we'll have guests.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: They've been excellent.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Very well behaved. I bet the listeners didn't even know
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: there was extra people in the studio.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Very well behaved. Yes. So we've got Toby and Debra
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: with us. They were nice enough to make a donation
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: to the Boys and Girls Club of the Eastern Panhandle
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: when I was out there in August to come and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: sit in. And I always wonder when we have people
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: sitting in, like what does go through their mind?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, why did I do this?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Should I have stayed in bed this morning?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: What are these jokers? But here's the deal. Not only
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: did they come in, they also brought us this basket
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: loaded of treats.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: From Reese's Pieces to Mountaineer Popcorn, which we have a
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: partnership with. We'll be selling that. But Hoppy, these apple
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: cider donuts. Oh, man. Oh, sweet mercy. Just off the chart.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: And then I've been looking at these here from the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Orr's Farmer's Market. Apple dumplings, a two-pack, weigh about nine pounds.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even sure you've brought the best thing
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: out here.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: What is that? Apple cider donut whoopie. pie.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Got some cream in between the apple cider donuts.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Eastern panhandle, heavy apple influence, right? This stuff's off the chart.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: So, you guys, thank you so very, very much.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: In addition, it's Toby's birthday today.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: So happy birthday to Toby.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Sorry you had to spend it with us starting your birthday.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: They did miss our 5.30 a.m. production meeting, so they
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: missed a lot there. That's when we do our calisthenics. Yeah.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: But welcome, you guys. It's great to meet you.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming. Thank you for the stuff, man.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: This is really good stuff. This will be consumed. With joy.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Last text. Texter asked this question. Should I be concerned
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: about Ren Baker going to Oklahoma State? To that, I
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: say yes, you should be because this week's game is
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: at Iowa State. If he goes to Oklahoma State, he'll
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: never see the Mountaineers.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's what they're referring to. Here's when Now,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: for the record, Oklahoma State does not have an athletic
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: director opening right now.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: No, they do not.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: But that has become a big social media trending topic.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: It became a story yesterday.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Barry Trammell put some news out that there may be
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: some questions about their AD's job security. That's why that question.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: You think that's what they were asking about, not about
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: going to the game?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: I think they know the games at Iowa State.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: One of these days, one of these days, one of
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: these days, Ren Baker will take another job, but it'll
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: be the job. that he can define what it is.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: It means that he won't just take a job because
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: it's a bigger school if it's screwed up. If he
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: views that he cannot manage the entirety of it all,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: if he's got to answer to a bunch of other people,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: he's not going to do it.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: You're not saying that at some schools they're heavily... political,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: and a lot of board members get in there and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: politicians get in there at certain schools and try to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: run athletes. Exactly what I'm saying.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly what I'm saying. Exactly what I'm saying. West Virginia
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: is fortunate to have him.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I've never heard that before.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: He's doing a wonderful job. He's happy here. His family's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: happy here. Look, one of these days, I mean, it
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: just happens. People take different jobs.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unlike us.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Unlike us. Never really had that offer, so here we are.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Just like the tattoo, we're just staying put. Just going
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: to stay like that and put there. They have a
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: jailhouse tattoo. Huge game. Huge game. Goes without saying.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: I like us, by the way.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: You do?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I do. I like us.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Go win. I like him because he's got joy in
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: his soul.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Go win.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: And he's got a Mountaineer victory in his heart.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I do. I do. I feel good about it.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: He'll run all up and down that field that may
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: be wet.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and shut down this and make them have a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: quarterback controversy after this week.
• 1:11:36
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• 1:11:42
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• 1:11:45
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  Speaker 2: You better leave. You better get out of here. You've
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: got games early on Saturday.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I do need to run. It's going to be a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: busy day for me. I'm popping around today, but assignment
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: one is complete.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Let's move on. Happy birthday to Toby. We be gone
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: back Sunday for our recap of the Iowa State game.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Will Hoppy be filled with joy?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I hope so.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I certainly hope so. Be good. See y'all.