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Who are the GREATEST shooters in NBA history? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Of the hill, This, Bobby, is the beltline.
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Are you ready? This is King of the hill.
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I don't know what that was. What?
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The heck was saying? Yeah, what?
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What was that? Speedy Willy Whoppers.
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It was a whopper, it was a Willy whop.
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It was getting me a little out there.
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I was, I was, I was lighting up the electricity there and I was
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giving the king did. You like Whoppers when you were
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a kid? I did.
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I did. I still like Whoppers, you know.
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I like looking at them and I like eating them, if you know
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what I mean. I like the little ones you would
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get like the Halloween candy, not like the ones you get from
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like the movie theater, like the big box.
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Yes, I remember those whopper I You know who likes whoppers?
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Josh. Josh loves those Whoppers.
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I, I, I, I wasn't talking about those Whoppers, by the way, the
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candy Whoppers. Not my thing.
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I don't like the taste of those. I'm talking about the Willy
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Whop, Speedy, you know what I'm talking about Good old moms or,
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you know, you know, you know, belly bomber, as we call them,
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the Whoppers itself at the one and only McDonald's.
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I love those Whoppers or Burger King's Whopper.
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You know, those kind of things. Anyways, King of the Hill,
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ladies and gentlemen, I'm very happy to be here.
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Oh, look at that face. Oh God, look at that face.
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There is a lot of whopping through the Willy Wops.
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Irrelevance, as we always say. Somebody's got to be irrelevant
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on this show, Speedy, as we all say.
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Irrelevant. I'm not licking anyone.
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Well, if you're licking somebody and hopefully it's some
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something big and Milky as the milk dud himself.
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All right. Are we ready to do the King of
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the Hell? Right guys, let's start it up
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King of the hill it's a great game show where the winning
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player gets to take on the resident king and as he's the
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defending champion, Errol Marx is the king so Errol will judge
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the first two rounds. Round one, peasant fight
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everyone versus everyone, and you're going to have to answer a
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random trivia question and be put on the spot in like a
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lightning round. Then Errol will decide who the
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two finalists are in the joust and they will compete to face
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the king in Round 3, where all of his subjects will vote on if
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he gets to keep. Stop it.
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I don't know about the subjects I guess.
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It's a metaphor. Come on man, I don't want to
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scare anybody off that I'm some. Kind of king subjects, that's
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what you know, like it's like a scheme, you know what I mean?
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It's like a schema. I wish I was like friends with
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King Charles because then I can get all that money from England
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and I could buy myself my my team like Alex Rodriguez did.
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I love the Timberwolves. Could you imagine me on a
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basketball team, a baseball team?
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I would be a crazy owner. I could you imagine I am worse
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than Mark Cuban? I'd scare people away.
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I'd scare people away. I'm just have to be smarter
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enough not to hire Nico. I would never.
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What's the first thing you're doing as an owner?
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Watch sport. Watch sport.
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Let's say you bought the Dallas Mavericks.
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Why not? Because you just mentioned Mark
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Cuban. Let's Why not?
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Let's go. With that, if I bought the
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Dallas Mavericks, well, I got the number one pick.
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I'm I'm drafting Cooper flag. I'm drafting Cooper flag.
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There's number one right there. That automatically makes me a
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star. They didn't.
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They didn't let Cuban buy the Cubs.
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No, that's true. I I don't know why he would have
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been great for baseball. He would have great for.
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He rubs people the wrong way, doesn't he?
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They thought he was going to be Steinbrenner 2 point O.
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So then they sold him. Literally he was offering 1.2.
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They sold for 7:50 to obviously a family out of Omaha.
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But I was like, why wouldn't you take the extra 550?
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Because there were so many guys that I talked to and it's
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happening. They're like, I've seen what
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he's done with The Mavericks and he'll do everything to get those
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guys. He would have been George 2.0
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and got everybody over there and he won.
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I would have. I would have played for him
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100%. I think everybody would have
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played for Mark Cuban, and the guy knows how to make money.
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He also knows how to steal ideas and usually most billionaires
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steal everybody's ideas. They're not bad at doing that as
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a Shark Tank is one of the biggest and the best shows in
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all of media world, the media world.
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So and. They still, they get they get
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revenue off it anyways whether they sell it or.
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Not I know. We absolutely do because they're
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it's on the show and they sign a contract before they go on the
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show that if they're on the show and they're promoting their
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product, if if it ever, ever goes out there and makes it big
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or public, they're going to get a piece of it.
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So it's a pretty, it's pretty cool.
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It's pretty cool. Anyways, I'm ready.
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What are we doing? What are we?
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Doing all right, peasant. Fight the best shooters in NBA
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history, and we got to put a stop to some of this nonsense.
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Tommy scoops, stop looking things up.
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You're banned from Googling. All right?
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We know you're Googling. We know it.
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How do you Google people? But he could not Google.
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But he's not. He doesn't have to look at
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stats. Yes, he's Googling the top
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shooters in NBA history and he gets a list.
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I don't want to hear it. No, Google best shooters in NBA
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history. Here we go.
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I'll get We'll start it off with Tommy Scoops.
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Well, I mean, I know like it was kind of controversial when I
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picked Michael Jordan, but I don't know if it's going to be
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controversial with this. But the best shooter, Mr. Steph
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Curry, I mean, come on. Like the man just got the not
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just got, but two years ago, of course, just became the all time
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3 point leader. The man has revolutionized, I
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know some people are very iffy about it, but has revolutionized
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the way that the three ball is shot.
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Steph Curry just nobody does it better than him when shooting
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the ball. So Steph Curry #1 all right.
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Spady. All right, let's go for one from
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the pre 3 point era Pistol Pete Maravich.
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There's a reason he got that nickname Pistol Pete.
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He was one of the all time leaders in college basketball is
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when in addition to being in the NBA with the back in the day,
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New Orleans Jazz. And again, that seemed to not
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that was an expansion team that seemed to not have a lot of
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talent around him. He could shoot like crazy at
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that time, which I think revolutionized just the concept
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of trying to be able to shoot that long.
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Jabba. I'm going to I'm going to go off
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the beaten path because it's funny that you bring this up
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because I was actually listening to Reggie Miller on Up in Smoke
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podcast and it was it not including him, right?
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And he's very underrated and he goes down because he is
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literally in Reggie's thing. And I'm going to go Drozen
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Petrovich. Wow.
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Being underrated and, and being from Yugoslavian and the
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Croatian league and then coming over here and doing the things
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it was, it was it was fun to see and like how these guys give
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respect to these other guys that don't really have the names that
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everybody else does. It's easy to give the Steph
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Curry's, the Reggie Miller's and whatever.
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That's why I loved, I try to go off the beaten path.
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Sometimes the stories aren't as great because there's not enough
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information and I didn't see some of these guys, but I love
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guys like that, that it made an impact on guys like Reggie
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Miller that have literally given respect to a guy that is known
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in the game. But the thing that he did as far
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as shooting the three and best shooters was, was definitely in
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the conversation. By the way, I agree with you,
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Josh Curry did ruin the game. I'm I'm not lying.
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That he's did that all year. I wish when didn't have baseball
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tonight with his son. I would, I would.
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Me and fish would go get some either chips or popcorn because
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just sit here. Just listen to you.
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Josh is trying to be the first commenter to to advance to the
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next round. Well, I haven't heard my answer
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yet, and I'm going with one of the guys, Errol.
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That LeBron Miami Heat team was pretty great, you know, And then
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the Spurs did beat him, but there was somebody else who beat
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him too. We know who we're talking about.
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One of the best shooting big men of all time, Dirk Novitz.
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Oh, you went with Dirk, OK. I'm going to Dirk.
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Dirk was a 504090 guy shooting percentages. 50 from the field,
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40 from 390 from the line. That's pretty good for a power
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forward. You know in the league. 7 feet
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tall, could get off any shot against any defense.
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This guy won a title, put the team on his back.
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Had some great role players, older Jason Kidd.
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But we know that Dirk was magic with the touch.
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Interesting. Back to Tommy.
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I'm going to go Kobe Bryant. You know, Kobe Bryant, of
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course, being a side, one of the best or most clutch players of
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all time. He knew how to hit the big shots
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not only when he had of course Shaq, but by himself, with pal
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Gasol leading the team. The two of them, of course.
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Being one of the. Most dominant duo honestly, in
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that that span of when they were going to the finals, like every
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other year against the Celtics had that great year against the
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match. I don't care.
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So Kobe Bryant, of course, like I said, one of the most clutch
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players of all time, Best playoff players of.
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All time let's not let's. Make him my #2 greatest shooter
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of all time. All right.
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Speedy, another shooter that changed the game and won a lot
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of championships as well. That's Larry Bird, really the
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first legend of that three-point era that started in the early
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80s. Obviously he played a little bit
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without the three-point line too, but his height, obviously
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his creativity with the ball on just doing it like I was saying
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with Kobe in the in the playoffs for so long really was that
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transcending guy for a wing a three or a four that could shoot
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like that. And guys like Kevin Durant claim
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that they're better than and they're not.
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Larry Bird is for a power, for a small 4 power forward type, the
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greatest shooter we've seen. Jabba.
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Damn it, Speedy, I was like, all right, if he's I knew you might
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still go back old school after after pistol feet, but I got to
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take Jesus Shuttlesworth. I mean it's just it's tough not
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to. And as we were talking about the
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T wolves earlier, which the original team he was drafted by,
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but then went to the Bucks. He was drafted by them 5th
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overall in the first round. And I was I mean, I was a kid
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that grew up on the court. So it was like one of those
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heard movies that you kind of went towards and you know, you
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win championships, you play with different teams and you know,
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you set all these records as one of the most clutch 3 point
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shooter and shooters of all time.
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I just it, it was just fun to watch.
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And and the one thing that I respected a lot about Ray Allen,
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you never heard about him. He just went about his business
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and, and was somebody that was very, very professional and,
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and, and dead that and kind of kind of stayed out of what he
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was doing with with what he could have done.
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And so he he's got to be up there for me.
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Stole it from me Java. Well, I.
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Was he's stole bird for me. That's true.
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You know, I like to. Go old school.
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There's so. Many let me out do out do the
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old school on you and go back a couple more generations to the
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logo himself, Jerry West, you know, guy who made shooting, you
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know, from distance kind of in vogue in the league, you know,
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from the first place. The guy's shot is so iconic, the
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logo of the league is him taking the shot.
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Jerry West. Last ones, Tommy.
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All right, I'm going. I'm surprised nobody actually
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said it, but I'm going with Reggie Miller.
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Reggie Miller, of course, on charting on top of the three
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pointer list of all time, of course, 3 point.
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I'm good, I'm all good. All right, but yeah, basically
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Reggie Miller, no one did it better at his time period at
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shooting the ball. Reggie Miller of course, never
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won anything. But however, you know there,
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there's nothing to say against the shooting ability, there's
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nothing to say against the shooting prowess.
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And you know, you know for sure he was going to hit big clutch
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shots and then playoffs as well, too.
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So give me Reggie Miller. You guys.
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Know who goes after each other? Why are you waiting?
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Just go. Let's go.
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Yeah, I'm I'm going to go with another another older example.
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We'll go back to the 90s too. And a guy Arrow likes to Clyde
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Drexler, I think a guy that the Houston Rockets obviously
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transformed that team Portland great years for a while.
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Kind of that three pre 3 point shooting, not pre 3 point
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shooting era, but early 3 point shooting era.
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I think definitely was a guy that did well creating his own
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shots too with until he went to Houston.
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Not a lot of talent around him. Jabba yeah, I another one too.
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And and this probably isn't going to get me the best of the
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best, right? But Pager Stoyakovich and, you
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know, just the way he did it in the finals, like and it was, it
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was weird because like I said, I was listening to Reggie talk
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about these guys and obviously you know him, but when he was
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with the Kings and like, what was it?
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The late 90s, early 2000s and he could createspace for like web
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and all those guys. I I just think he extended the
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floor and, and was a huge shoot. I think was that old Vladi too?
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I think that was on that team. One of the most GM's ever, yeah.
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Yeah. And he just, his efficiency rate
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was almost 40% from from threes and and on the field.
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So it's just one that I like to go to where it's not an obvious,
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Obviously Ray Allen was an obvious, but those two were kind
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of ones where I looking at the numbers and see their efficiency
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rates was was pretty impressive and they're not super huge
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names. Paige Tayakovich amazing in
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video game basketball. 100%. Amazing hit every shot.
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I'm going to go with Kevin Durant.
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Kevin Durant, 7 foot tall, shooting guard basically in the
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for most of his career, could transition to be more of a
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traditional forward as he. Got older.
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Why did he? Why did he never say he wanted
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to be listed at 7 foot but like, there'd be dudes standing next
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to him? They're listed 71.
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He's taller. It's, it's strange.
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I, I think he's probably 7-1 and change at this point.
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I think when he came into the league he was only 611.
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But regardless, he's one of the most unstoppable shots in NBA
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history. How are you supposed to stop a
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shot from a guy who's 7 foot tall and the shooting like one
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of the best 2, you know, shooting percentage, 2 guards of
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all time. He's got one of them.
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He's got the championships to back it up.
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He was the best player on the Warriors team that had the
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alleged best shooter of all time bet for this list, and he was
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better than him in that series. In those series, I got to go
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with Kevin Durant. Errol, pick your two for the
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joust. You guys forgot about Steve
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Kerr. I can go on and on and.
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On I was going to go Steve Kerr if Jabba took Durant on that.
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One, there's a lot of them, there's a lot of good shooters,
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but. I almost dropped a mark price.
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Mark Price was a pretty good 3 point shooter.
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Yeah, there was a, there's a couple of really good ones.
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You guys miss Fish and Jabba. I mean, Fish and Speedy are the
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ones that I I like the most, but Jabba wasn't too far off.
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I obviously everybody went well. Everybody went with the obvious
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ones, but the ones that really start speedy went with Clyde
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Drexel. I was very surprised he went
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with that and I like Clyde the glide.
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So I'm I'm going to give him a like a thumbs up on that because
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everybody knows what I feel about him.
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So what I'm going to go, obviously I can't go with fish,
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you know, because fish is hosting.
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I like speedy and fish and fish. If you want to move on and and
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try your opportunity, but you you.
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Can't. It doesn't matter to me.
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It's it's up to you guys. Dude, I want to.
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I want to see it. I.
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I think I should move on. All right, so.
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Speedy and fish all right. Speedy and fish all.
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Right me a job around Speedy. It's time to go to the joust,
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and the joust tonight will be best handles of all time.
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Speedy. Yes, of course we're meeting
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dribbling skills. You can start first.
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All right, Allen Iverson, I think it seems like the obvious
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one here for a guy that was his size too, could do it in error.
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That was very tough to play. And still one of those Errol
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talks about all the time, one of the transitions from when the
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rules went from the physical 90s play to the 2000s, early 2000s
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play. And he dealt with both of those
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too. And a guy that was very
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undersized, we talked about all the time, not, not a lot of
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talent around him. So he really had to create for
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himself too and put up some unbelievable numbers considering
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that. Amidst all that and some of the
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best highlights you'll see. I got to go with Kyrie Irving.
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Kyrie Irving, most unstoppable offensive player in his prime
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with the handles he can get to the basket.
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One NBA championship with with his handles driving to the
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basket. That guy, you say what you will
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about him and there's plenty to say about Kyrie Irving.
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Everyone knows his handles are best close to you know, if not
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best of all time, way way up there speedy.
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All right, I'll transition to Derrick Rose.
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Before he had that knee injury he had was as electric as it
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gets when it comes to dribbling the ball, driving to the hoop,
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really crafty switching hand to hand.
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I think that made a big difference to where his career
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going. Obviously won the MVP in that
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2010 season and I think he was kind of transitioning at the
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time to become that next version of Allen Iverson until obviously
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he had all the knee injuries. I don't think he was as good of
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an overall score offensive player, but still I think he
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definitely deserves to be up there with the ball handling.
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Well, I'll, I'll trade you that, but I want white chocolate,
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white chocolate Williams. Jason Williams played basketball
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in high school with Randy Moss, by the way, comes into the
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league, goes through college and is just maybe not the greatest
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player of all time, but had all the highlight passes, every
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single one. He was like he was in the N1
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mixtapes, but he was doing it in the NBA.
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Jason Williams, white chocolate, speedy.
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And I'll round it out with the prime Russell Westbrook after
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that, and obviously physical ball handler too.
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We can attack another one like Derrick Rose could switch hands
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very well too in his prime. Obviously there's a reason he
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got all those triple double S. He can handle the ball as good
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as anyone and draw fouls. Draw the contact for a physical
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point guard. I mean, the crossover I always
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tried to mimic and do terribly. That was my guy Jamal Crawford,
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who was just absolutely a savage on offense.
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He put him in 6th man of the year one time.
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Started a lot. What?
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Listen, not a great defensive player.
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Those teams didn't win. But when you had to cut somebody
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up and get to the hoop or get an open shot, Jamal Crawford was
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going to be that instant offense for your team.
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Errol, who's moving on? It's a good one.
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It's a good one and I like Derrick Rose.
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Obviously we like, you know, I love Allen Iverson and I like
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Jason Williams too. I'll go with Speedy.
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I'll go with Speedy. It's very close.
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It's very close. It's.
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Very All right, so let's get Tommy back in here is.
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Very close. It was very close.
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I I could argue. I could argue that so.
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I I it was a good fight, you know, but I just got knocked off
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the horse in the joust one time too many going on to the taking
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on the king, Speedy and Errol. Errol, you decide who goes
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first. Best post players of all time
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Anyone playing inside Errol. I know this is one of the more
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favorite ways of playing basketball that you appreciate,
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not this five out Steph Curry crap.
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So let's hear your best post players of all time, boys.
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All right, so I'm going to go 1st.
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I'm going to go if there's no you can't even argue this Hakeem
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the dream Elijah Wan. I mean, he was the best post
21:00
player. This fadeaway jumper.
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I remember this guy never played basketball until he was 1819
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years old and he was drafted. He was a soccer player and he
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came into the NBA and we really want to play college ball in
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Houston. And then he was drafted by the
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Houston Rockets and light that really lit the NBA on fire
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really developed the post game. Everybody wanted a copycat.
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If you look at all the post players still to the game still
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to in the league right now, you can compare his post ability.
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Even Patrick Ewing copied his post ability.
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It was Hakeem Olajuwon. Hakeem Olajuwon the best post
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player in NBA history. Yeah, that was the first one I
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was going to take as well. So I'll go with Tim Duncan too.
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Mr. Fundamental, obviously great defensive player, but also could
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dribble, could pass the ball very well, space the floor very
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well as a as a defender at that time and an offensive player for
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a Spurs team that again was coached with David Robinson too.
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But he was. It was Tim Duncan that really
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took it on. All right, back to Errol, OH.
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Come on, man, you can't really take it away from this guy,
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arguably one of the greatest offensive players and post
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players. And by the way, there is
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somebody that brought this hook into the league.
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar, as we all know, was a world champion when
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he came out of college and then went to Milwaukee and really
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bought his game to Milwaukee. And then obviously went to the
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Lakers and went unbelievably so many times with Magic Johnson.
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And, and was one of the best, was the best big man offensive
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player of all time. His ability to go into the post
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and just dominate and was almost impossible to defend.
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Offensively gifted in every kind of way.
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Kareem of Dolgepark. Yeah, I'll go with another past
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legend as well. I got to go Wilt Chamberlain on
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this one. A guy that obviously the the
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arrow is a little different with him too.
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So I think Kareem is a little better than Will, but I think a
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guy that's still definitely Dominique could switch hands
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very well. And again, as physical as it
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gets in that time as well, still with his height, being very
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crafty with the ball and having his post play really be tough.
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All right, my final guy, the most dominant player in the NBA
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for six years, Impossible to stop in the post.
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Shaquille O'Neal, dominant force, can get into the the post
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and absolutely dominate, ripping basketball, basketball hoops
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down. Just an unbelievable dominant
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player. Once he got into the paint, you
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got to get the hell out away from the freight train.
23:29
The guy ran you over, pulling things down, beating people up.
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Shaquille O'Neal. Unbelievable.
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I'll round it out with with Karl Malone.
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I think Karl Malone definitely was wondering one of the biggest
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scores on the inside game, the mid range game as well.
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Obviously he didn't have the defensive prowess in the same
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way, but his raw offensive post game and in the toughest era of
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basketball until we talk about the 90s with the rules all the
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time. I I think that I'll go Carmelo,
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my last one. All right, so we're going to
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vote on this now. I'll start off the voting.
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I got to give it to Errol. I mean Shaquille O'Neal check,
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Kareem Otul Jabbar check, Hakeem Olajuwon check.
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I, I, I might went with those 3 for top three myself.
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That's a great job. And you got to do that by
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trading picks with Speedy. Hard to argue, Jabba.
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What do you think? I yeah, I'm going to, I'm going
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to give you some, some negative points, Errol, because he didn't
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win the college national championship as Kareem Abdul
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Jabbar. He was actually Lou Alcindor, so
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I'm going to take that away from spitting on your facts.
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That was Kareem and Jules Jabbard.
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It was just a different name he changed.
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His name? His.
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When he was Mama named him Lou Alcindor.
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Yeah, when he went, when he became, when he became Muslim,
24:42
just like Muhammad Ali, he it was the same, but.
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He was on UCLA as Lou Alcindor, not cream.
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Of which part? He still was so.
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If you're going to talk facts, we got to get them right.
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He did won a national championship, so that's all I'm
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going to say. Yeah, as Lou Alcindor, whatever
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I was, I was, I wanted somebody to get it to jot a George Miken,
24:59
but nobody did. I loved it because he changed.
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He changed the width of the paint.
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He created the mic and drill, just about other things.
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But Errol, yeah, it's like Speedy.
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If he would have got Shaq, it would have been real close.
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But Errol, I got to give it to you.
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Yeah, when it comes to Speedy's list, I think Speedy got good
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people that scored like good scores when you were in the
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post. But when you talk about
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physicality and scoring, there's no one that did it better.
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Of course, then Hakeem, then Shaq, and of course then Mr.
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar with one of the most.
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Well, like I said, Hakeem's still teaching these guys.
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Like, yeah, he's still playing. And like, Dream.
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Shakes the most legendary post move of all time in my opinion.
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That or this guy fucking you put both of them.
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Just think about think about Kareem Abdul Jabbard.
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He was the best offensive player until guess who broke his
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record? LeBron James.
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This was this guy was the best offensive player in NBA history,
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OK. And this guy he did it in the
25:53
post. It wasn't he was shooting 3
25:55
pointers. This guy would get into the post
25:58
and dominate sky. He he brought the sky hook to
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the NBA. And then obviously the the dream
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who by the way, to this day, everybody works out with Kareem
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Abdul. I mean Kareem Abdul, Hakeem
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Olajuwon in the offseason, all the post players, even the non
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post players are trying to learn.
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Hakeem Olajuwon's got to be in his 60s now.
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Got to be, I think it's probably like late 50s or 60s. 62 I just
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looked it up. He's in his. 60s All right, so I
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guess we're done. The king gets to stay a king.
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One more week. Errol, congratulations.
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You are still King of the Hill. Listen, I like Speedies picks.
26:36
I love the mailman. I loved Carl Malone and there's
26:38
no doubt that he was there and I all the guys that he picked.
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You can argue that Tim Duncan is one of my favorite players.
26:45
I I Mr. Fundamental, the guy was a great defender.
26:49
He did so many things so great. But when you look at the best
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post players, you're thinking the Diesel for five years, he
26:58
was impossible. And they hack a shot on both
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ends and every kind of end, if you know what I mean.
27:04
Especially as big as he is. I heard it's not that one of the
27:08
one of the Knicks clubhouse guys that I know said it's not as as
27:11
big as you thought it would be. Well, I don't want to know what
27:13
the the guys in with the Knicks. Club.
27:14
I'm just saying because I want. I wanted to know.
27:17
I you. You want to know how big he is
27:19
in his pants? Oh man, Speedy. 100%.
27:21
Speedy, how do you think? What?
27:23
Do you think I'm? Not, I mean, give us an inch.
27:25
I know not giving inch. Inches.
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What do you think? I don't care.
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Just give me an inch. 4 whatever, 4 inches.
27:32
If you told Shaquille O'Neal that he had a four inch, you
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know what? He'd smack you in the face.
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I'll talk about that in front of freaking shack.
27:41
I'm going to say about 20 inches.
27:43
I I think it's long, 2020 inches, man.
27:45
I mean, that guy, you know, hangs.
27:47
Dude, look at the girls. Look at the girls.
27:50
Dude, look at the girls. Almost. 2 feet of pecker like
27:54
are we? I mean, Ovie probably knows all
27:56
about it. You know, Ovie, I mean.
27:58
That's that's like my 2 monitors set up.
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Hey listen, I I mean the first thing if I.
28:04
Thought I had. A If I was training with
28:06
Shaquille O'Neal the I wouldn't want to look.
28:09
But if this guy's walking in the locker room naked, I for one
28:13
time I have to look down and and and figure what he's carrying,
28:16
man, I mean. Absolutely.
28:18
We we always. Do I, I don't, I definitely
28:21
don't want to look. But for somebody like that guy,
28:24
I, I definitely got to, I got to check what he's carrying.
28:27
But that's just me anyways. That might be you, but it looks
28:31
like our guest is here despite having the fire.
28:34
All right, and I'm going to pop out boys.
28:36
All right, I I know Ovie's probably sick to his stomach,
28:40
but hey, you know what? Speaking of sick, but I how are
28:44
you feeling? I mean, I know.
28:45
There's Ovie's Everything good, everything good.
28:47
Over there, everything's good. It's, it's like, you know, it's
28:50
a baby fire. Unfortunately it's it's life
28:52
lifing. You guys have kids y'all, y'all
28:55
children, you guys fathers just despite job is the only one job.
28:58
Is the only one the only one? The only father, yeah.
29:02
So it's like at a certain point in your life when the other
29:06
gentleman become fathers, you're going to have your kids do some
29:10
of the shenanigans that you did. And as mad as you want to get,
29:14
you can't be too mad because you remember you making some of
29:17
those same dumb ass mistakes and when it happened, when when they
29:22
do it, you're like. So.
29:28
So mine was a frozen pizza but he left the cardboard in with
29:31
it. I've done that.
29:35
I thought I thought it was waffles or something of that
29:38
magnitude. That's why when Jabba said, oh,
29:40
tell me, don't, don't come on. I said it's probably a small
29:44
kids thing where somebody left the towel by the microwave or
29:47
the, the, the toaster oven. So it's a it wasn't an actual
29:52
like fire. It was a metaphor for putting
29:55
out like a, a semi big thing. We were just, we, we thought
30:00
that there was rampant fraud going on in our My American
30:04
Express card. And so we were like, what the
30:06
hell is going on? Like there's all these random
30:09
charges and there's all these, you know, 99, there's like $399
30:13
charges in one day. And so we're tracking it down.
30:15
It's insane. It's like the killers inside the
30:18
house. Like it's coming from you.
30:19
It's coming from your, your Apple ID.
30:21
If you're in, in Apple. This is weird thing that annoys
30:23
me. They have this apple.com forward
30:27
slash bill Internet charge and so they put all your charges in
30:32
one. And so I'm like, I didn't buy
30:33
this, I didn't order this. So it ended up my 13 year old
30:37
daughter was doing 13 year old daughter things and she was
30:39
buying, I kid you not, thousands of in app purchases a month.
30:45
Oh, on on. Like on her phone.
30:46
On her phone, on her, I have had thousands of dollars.
30:49
Thankfully they like they, they they're going to refund us like
30:52
$3400. Thank you, Apple, because I was,
30:56
I was, I was livid. I was hot.
30:58
Amex. Amex is really good at that.
31:00
Yeah, they they are. Apple did a great job as well as
31:03
saying, hey, we know this wasn't, you know, intentional
31:05
Amex, like, hey, we know this was intentional.
31:06
So Amex is going to take off a couple $1000, Apple take off a
31:11
couple $1000. But I remember doing a similar
31:15
thing when I was younger in my teens, we didn't have the all
31:20
the Apple stuff, but we had on demand movies and I would just
31:26
watch movies all day. I would just out there and just
31:29
click and click and I order all these movies and some of them
31:32
were rated R and and not, you know, for 12/13 on the watch,
31:36
but I was just like, oh, I rated R movie.
31:39
I saw a side movie. I think, Oh, this is great.
31:42
And and so like, I just did this for months and months and months
31:45
And I remember when my parents finally caught me and I was just
31:49
so like it. It gets this way once you get
31:52
away with something, you feel like you're invincible.
31:53
If you feel like, hey, do this as much as I want, There's you
31:57
don't have a concept of money, so you just spend what you want
32:00
anyway. So parents finally caught me and
32:02
they were upset and she, my daughters look lucky.
32:04
I have Nigerian parents that use frying pans and belts and, you
32:09
know, vacuum cords to, to beat children.
32:11
And I think I'm stronger for it. But we're not allowed to do
32:15
that. This.
32:17
And I'm also scarred from the beatings I took so.
32:20
I had I had crutches and batteries.
32:23
Yeah, yeah, I think I've like spanked my kids like 5 times my
32:26
whole life, but my wife is disciplinary.
32:28
So anyways, Long story short, it's not a real fire.
32:32
It was a. Metaphorical fire.
32:33
I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was.
32:35
That's why I said though I I'm sure Ovie's going to come on.
32:38
It's probably something with the like with the kids.
32:41
Yeah. At the time, though, I had one
32:43
phone with American Express, 1 phone with Apple TV.
32:45
My daughter's sitting here crying.
32:46
My wife's trying to deal with it.
32:47
I have you guys like, hey, Ovie, we got this interview.
32:50
I'm like, fuck the interview. Like, I got shit to do.
32:51
Like, yeah, so. But like we were able to
32:56
decelerate or, you know, get things calm down.
32:59
And So what, everything's fine, right?
33:01
I will say, I will say this, I'm watching the Knick game and it's
33:05
typical Knicks who they, they have a 20 point lead and they're
33:09
letting Indiana come back into the game and, and they're
33:12
letting Josh Hart shoot threes, open 3 pointers and can't hit a
33:16
lick. The guy needs to stop shooting
33:17
threes and draw fouls and go to the free throw line because the
33:21
guy, and now we have, we have Robertson, Mitchell Robertson at
33:25
the line who can't hit a lick over there either.
33:27
It's it's typical New York next they're they're going to do
33:30
whatever it takes to lose this game.
33:32
It's typical. Anyways, we are talking to New
33:34
York. Yeah, well, thank you.
33:36
We are talking to former Ravens and Falcons all pro full back
33:40
our friend Ovie Moo Haley. Now Ovie, the Atlanta Falcons
33:46
made some interesting moves at at the draft and one of the
33:51
moves was a lot of it was very surprising.
33:54
As we all know, there was a Philadelphia Eagles GM that was
33:59
absolutely shocked when they traded away next year's first
34:03
round draft pick to move up into the first round to draft 2 very
34:09
talented defensive players. But did they overspend that
34:13
draft pick to get the player they wanted?
34:16
Your thoughts to this year's first round double draft packs?
34:21
I am ecstatic. And Terry Fontenot we trust and
34:26
in my own personal podcast believe in Falcons, BLEAV and I
34:30
believe the way you regularly spell it, believe in Falcons
34:32
myself, Michael Turner. We talk about how in Terry
34:37
Fontenot we trust our our GM who for years and years over at the
34:41
Saints was able to make magic and even though they had no
34:45
salary cap, he found ways for them to be competitive and beat
34:48
our ass several times. So to have Terry Fontenot here
34:51
and to have the brilliant Michael Pennix move, which a lot
34:54
of people actually who pooed on, I actually said that it was
34:58
going to happen first of all. And it did happen and I thought
35:00
it was a brilliant move. But he now is making another
35:03
brilliant move because he's not going to be here, guys, like
35:06
he's not going to be here, nor is Raheem.
35:10
If we have another mediocre 7 and 88 and 7-8 and eight, nine
35:16
and what, another like year where we're just not getting to
35:21
the heights that we need to be at, there's going to be no Terry
35:24
Fortner. So he's like, forget giving a
35:27
first round pick for next year. We got to win now.
35:30
And if we do like what the Eagles did, they went all in for
35:32
Saquon Barkley. They went all in for all their
35:34
big pieces. They won the Super Bowl.
35:35
No one cares what they had to give up to get there.
35:39
No one cares or is going to care what we gave up when we're
35:42
winning the NFC South in the playoffs, surprising people by
35:47
being an underdog and a dark horse, beating some teams that
35:49
are better than us, and then back at the Super Bowl, no one
35:52
cares. That's where we're going.
35:53
So the last time we had you on the show was actually right
35:55
before they made the Cousins panic switch.
35:58
And you were saying at the time and like the time of it was
36:00
strange. So what are your thoughts with
36:01
the little bit you saw with panics at the end of the season
36:04
and then keeping Cousins on the roster when people thought they
36:06
were either going to cut him or trade him?
36:09
My thoughts are that I actually was with Michael Pennix's family
36:13
for the first annual Falcons Fan cruise that Royal Caribbean put
36:17
on, and it was amazing. It's about 10 former players
36:20
like myself and Michael Pennix's mom and some of his aunties were
36:24
there and we had dinner with the fans and got a chance just to
36:28
hear some old Michael Pennix stories from him growing up and
36:31
everything else. He comes from good stock, good
36:33
family, and he has a great arm. So I feel very confident that
36:39
not only the character of the guy that we're getting, but the
36:43
talent and the the the want to the desire, just the opportunity
36:47
to take us to a place that we've been begging to be in in so
36:52
long. And people kind of forget as big
36:55
and bad and beautiful as Mercedes-Benz Stadium is, it's
36:58
yet to have a winning season, which is it's, it's crazy.
37:01
That's insane. Like the Mercedes-Benz Stadium
37:03
where Kendrick Lamar and sis were performing and I was in
37:06
Arthur Blank suite and we were out there enjoying it.
37:09
And it's just like a Tasha Hall for all things sports and
37:13
entertainment. Yet it's not a winning Taj
37:15
Mahal. It's just a building that the
37:18
Falcons have yet to christen with a winning season.
37:21
Michael Pennix is going to change that.
37:22
So I think it's great for Falcons fans to actually have a
37:26
quarterback that from beginning to end can give us a high level
37:31
of QB play because Kirk Cousins, he gave us a good 345 games, but
37:36
then he fell all the way off, which for a reason.
37:39
Well, you guys have Maddie Ice too.
37:41
I mean, Maddie Ice gave you No, no Matthew right here.
37:44
Matt Maddie was great. He's a Hall of Famer.
37:46
By the way, Matthew Maddie Ice is definitely going to be in the
37:49
Hall of Fame, no question. How about the fact that he's a
37:52
Hall of Famer? But there are Falcons fans that
37:54
just love to hate him. They say Matt was the problem.
37:58
They say Matt the reason we didn't win a Super Bowl.
37:59
They say Matt was, you know, not clutch and all that Matt Ryan
38:04
hate can't be said around me because I'll, I will drop kick a
38:07
lady in the throat like I, I just, you ain't gonna talk with
38:10
my quarterback. I, I, I, I don't like it.
38:12
Like I had fans that were on the cruise that were talking crazy
38:15
on Matt Ryan. Like, you know what?
38:16
I just, I just can't get past that Matt Ryan just, you know,
38:19
stalling the franchise. I'm like, did you see what
38:21
happened when he left the, the Marcus Mariota's and the Desmond
38:24
Ritter's even the Kirk Cousins that didn't build shoes on their
38:29
best day. So it's always greener on the
38:32
other side until you get over there.
38:34
So again, I'm a little biased. That's my quarterback.
38:36
It's my quarterback. But I feel like he's a Hall of
38:40
Famer, obviously a Ring of Honor Falcon player and somebody who
38:46
every QB that comes to Atlanta should try, should just attempt
38:49
to be half as good as he was because he's one of the best.
38:53
Yeah, it's it's it's amazing to me how you say like what Arthur
38:57
Blink built and and how Mercedes-Benz and I kind of want
39:02
to switch gears as they were talking about the draft and
39:05
whatever. Like we've obviously heard talks
39:06
about like the volunteer OTAs and the OTAs.
39:09
Like do you think with like with a guy like Penix or with in any
39:13
situation, how important are those?
39:15
Or like do people overplay them with how important they are to
39:19
like create relationships or to understand schemes or just to
39:23
like just be with each other and like just kind of get a feel of
39:26
like, hey, let's go to lunch. Like let's grab dinner.
39:29
Like, hey, maybe our your wives meet or you know, whatever the
39:31
case may be, do you think that translates into this season a
39:35
little bit? Or is it kind of just people
39:36
blow it out of proportion? Because I've seen it both ways.
39:39
Yeah, it's you don't want to, you know, have a foot in each
39:44
side of the fence and say, well, it's a little bit this and that.
39:46
It's both. But but it it, it depends.
39:50
And I forget what the guy's name, Cleveland Browns and Myron
39:55
the the big defensive end, the Mercedes wanted out the Browns.
39:58
And now he's like, oh, money, I'll stay here.
40:00
We're talking about there you go, Miles Garrett.
40:03
Miles Garrett and his fiance, wife, girlfriend, whatever.
40:06
I think she's an Olympic like stud or something like that.
40:10
He's out called Anime Fest. And I saw an article about, you
40:13
know, he's missing OTAs. Oh my God, Miles Garrett can
40:16
miss as many OTAs as he was. He can show up the day before
40:19
practice and still out their ball like there are certain
40:22
people who have been able to. Earn the right to not go all out
40:30
like at his age and with what he's done and with how you know
40:33
he's going to be prepared for the season.
40:36
Don't talk to me about, you know, boohoo, he's kind of OTAs.
40:39
He's not being a leader. Yes, it'd be nice in a perfect
40:43
world, but just like I'm, you know, when I was with the
40:47
Ravens, Ray Lewis didn't come to every single OTA came to the
40:50
mandatory, but he can't. But for the non mandatory OTAs
40:55
guys who are Hall of farmers were Ring of Honor guys, you
40:59
want them there when it matters the most, which is on game day.
41:02
If they're going to be there for game day and be there for the,
41:05
you know, mandatory training camps, mandatory pre season or
41:09
mini camps, then that's all you want.
41:11
That's all you need. But if you're a brand new team,
41:13
if you're a young player, like why on earth would you be like,
41:17
I'm going to work out, you know, with my trainer and in
41:19
California, be there with a team.
41:21
You need to like Pedex needs to be at every even non mandatory
41:26
event because he's trying to assert himself as the guy.
41:30
He's trying to convince everyone that he's going to be the
41:33
hardest worker first in last night, all that good stuff.
41:35
So for people who still need to prove themselves or if you're a
41:39
fullback that you know you're this close from getting cut at
41:43
every moment, even when you're the best or highest pay, like
41:46
you still have to be there. I didn't miss a OTAA mini camba,
41:51
a workout. I was there all the time.
41:53
Even even after I got my big contract.
41:55
I was like, Nope, you ain't gonna get me.
41:56
You're not gonna talk about me not not appreciating or working
42:00
hard? So.
42:01
Yeah, that that optional wasn't a word at that point.
42:04
Not, not, not not at all. It wasn't there.
42:06
So it it unfortunately long answers that it depends.
42:10
We are talking to former Ravens and Falcons, all Pearl fullback
42:13
OV Moo Haley and a Mr. Moo Haley.
42:16
By the way, I disagree with you. Miles Garretts making 40 million
42:19
now a year. He's making quarterback money.
42:22
If you're making quarterback money, you should be at every
42:25
single OTAs practice. That's that's what I'm doing.
42:28
And you're the leader of this team.
42:30
And this is a team that's been a laughing stock in the NFL.
42:33
They have been absolutely stuck in every kind of press meet or
42:38
whatever the hell you want to call it.
42:39
They are absolutely. They're like, they're like a car
42:43
that has no carburetor. OK, That is that is the
42:47
Cleveland Browns. And after bringing in a guy
42:49
named, you know, Shador Sanders, I I think you need to worry that
42:54
you have what how many quarterbacks?
42:55
Kenny Pickett, first round pick, Joe Flacco, first round pick,
42:59
another old guy. I love Joe, but he's old and I
43:02
already been really quarterbacks.
43:03
Watson first round draft pick. And then you have Shidor and
43:08
then you have Shidor Sanders. Who thought was he?
43:11
He was a first round draft pick and now he's a fifth round draft
43:14
pick. So you know all about it's about
43:16
making the money. Whatever you call him, prime,
43:18
whatever the hell you call him. But I want to get into Kyle.
43:21
Legendary. Yeah, legendary.
43:23
He's going to be a legendary. That was I was cringy.
43:25
That was just it was just so cringy.
43:28
Like you just I mean it just say legendary and.
43:32
When he when he ended it with it, That's what got me.
43:35
I am a legend and. So it's tough because I can't
43:41
knock a man for having confidence.
43:43
You cannot live in this world if you don't love yourself and if
43:48
you don't have confidence, but gosh Dang, like if you're going
43:51
to be overconfident, you got to make sure you back that stuff
43:54
up. And so it's, it was just so, so
43:57
painful to watch. No, it wasn't not it was so fun.
44:01
Well, it was, it was painful for those of us who were rooting for
44:04
Dion root versus Dor because I, I supported the brother, but it
44:07
was just hard. But he was legendary.
44:09
Like it was just too much. It was too much.
44:11
I am a legend. Anyways, great movie in the Part
44:16
2. Yeah, definitely part 2's coming
44:17
out. Netflix I think it's coming out
44:19
on and so is Happy Gilmore too. That's coming out too.
44:23
So I saw that. Yeah.
44:25
That's supposed to be a Netflix. So it was a 2 door Netflix.
44:28
You have A at the end daily at the end of June.
44:32
I think it's coming out. So it will be Stranger Things.
44:35
All I want in my life is Stranger Things.
44:37
I do too. I do too.
44:39
These kids are way too old to have the timeline actually makes
44:43
sense. Like now they're all like, you
44:45
know, got Gray hair and full mustaches and and they're
44:48
supposed to be playing like they're 15 years old.
44:50
They're all like 20 something. You know, it took too long to
44:53
make it come out. You know what I'm hooked on?
44:54
And I I definitely got to get into the Kyle Pitts thing, but
44:56
I'm hooked on mobland. Yellowstone.
44:58
I've been watching Mobland Yellowstone's done.
45:01
I've watched all the all Yellowstone.
45:03
You got to get a chance to watch maybe 20 something, the 1888 and
45:07
the Duttons. It's it's great, it's great, but
45:10
it's over. I've already seen every single
45:11
episode. You got to check out mob land
45:14
and it's fantastic. It's perfectly acted and it's
45:19
we're getting it's getting really, really good.
45:21
So if if you and your wife want to sit down and relax and watch
45:24
a a pretty good series, mob land is the way to go.
45:27
So just to my my opinion, we watch the same kind of series,
45:31
so I know you'll like that. Speaking of series, there's a
45:34
lot of series with. This.
45:35
What about land? What about land, man?
45:37
Let's not cut off land. Man mob.
45:40
Land, land man lot. Of oil field with Billy Bobby.
45:44
No, I don't want to watch Billy Bob on an oil field.
45:48
It's. Hilarious.
45:50
This is monster. Speaking of Monster, make me
45:53
feel good. What's you to ask for that
45:58
speaking? That's a good drop right there.
46:01
That's a perfect drop. Speaking of monsters, we all
46:05
know there are, there is somewhat of a Loch Ness Monster
46:08
out there, but we've never seen it or we thought we've seen it.
46:10
Why haven't we seen Kyle Pitts on a football field?
46:13
The guy looks like he disappears every time he steps on a field.
46:17
And why has he has he disappeared?
46:20
And what do they have to do to get him more involved or trade
46:23
him, as we've heard over the last couple of years?
46:26
And we trade him with our luck, he will become a Hall of Fame
46:30
player somewhere else because he's got the tools, he's got the
46:33
goods. He's his wingspan hasn't changed
46:36
his hands, You know, they, they still, you know, flex and
46:39
contract to his feet, I believe still work.
46:43
It's just sometimes you talk about confidence little bit
46:46
earlier, sometimes you lose confidence so much and you see
46:48
people around you lose it to where you're just like, maybe I
46:52
am kind of sucky, Maybe maybe I do, you know, belong in
46:57
someones, you know, semi pro league.
46:59
I just feel like it's just takes the right system, the right
47:03
quarterback and the right opportunities for him to be jump
47:07
started again and to get back to the cow pitch.
47:10
We saw year one. Like it's just like I remember
47:12
saying very distinctly when Matt Ryan was throwing cop at the
47:14
ball, he made the Pro Bowl, the Pro Bowl.
47:17
This this young brother made the Pro Bowl his first year.
47:20
I'm like, if that's the the floor for him, if that's the
47:23
worst he's going to be, Oh my gosh, we have Tony Gonzalez.
47:27
Watch out because I was gonna say Tony Gonzalez the best time
47:29
I've ever played for the Falcons.
47:30
Tony Gonzalez wasn't like that his first year, maybe.
47:33
What's the Pro Bowl first year? I don't know.
47:35
But Kyle Pitts first year, he probably didn't.
47:38
Kyle Pitts did, though. So I was so confident until the
47:43
sucky quarterbacks came Marcus Mariota and then Desert Ritter.
47:46
And you know, and you know, I have no idea why Kirk Cousins
47:51
didn't connect with. And by the by the way, I want
47:54
to, I want to give a shout out to what you said before we got
47:57
into this whole conversation about Maddie Ice.
47:59
The the reason why Atlanta didn't win that Super Bowl 1 and
48:04
only one reason why they stopped running the ball.
48:06
And you know who was the offensive coordinator of that
48:08
team? Kyle Shanahan.
48:10
And I'll say it again, stop blaming Maddie Ice.
48:13
It wasn't Maddie Ice's fault he doesn't play defense.
48:16
He was the guy that went out there for 3 1/2 quarters and
48:20
threw his ass off. I don't want to hear it was
48:22
Maddie Ice's fault. That was bad coaching, bad
48:26
offensive coordinator and all you needed to do was run the
48:29
ball. That would have been the smart
48:31
thing when you had two of the best, well, running backs in all
48:35
of the NFL. But Kyle Shanahan has been the
48:38
joke of the NFL because it doesn't matter where he's
48:41
coaching or as an offensive coordinator.
48:43
Every time he gets to the big game, he stops running the ball
48:46
and that's why they lose. Just saying it wasn't matter.
48:48
I agree. So.
48:49
And also they had no and also they had, besides Vic Beasley,
48:52
no edge rushers at the time. Now you guys got two of them.
48:55
But. Yeah, these edge rushers,
48:57
everyone's like, oh, you gave it too much for them.
49:00
We have what we need to win this year and these two young boys
49:05
are ready to hunt. So I'm so excited.
49:07
I got a little press pass for my my podcast.
49:10
I'm about to be in the locker room asking questions and
49:12
getting all this good information because because
49:14
these guys I'm I'm 45 in gosh, about a week or so on June 10th,
49:19
couple weeks, I'll be 45 years old.
49:20
You look good, man, you look good.
49:22
Thank you Hit my midlife crisis. But I'm realizing that it's it's
49:26
a it's a different game, but it's the same game.
49:29
Like you're only you're only two years older than me.
49:32
But I mean, OK, you're only two years older than me, but I'm
49:37
happy because we look good 345 and to not be sloppy, you know,
49:41
is a good thing because my boy Todd Heap and one of the worst
49:46
quarterbacks in history that failed Kyle Bowler.
49:48
Love you, Kyle, but just he wasn't good at quarterbacking.
49:52
He doesn't look good. He doesn't look Kelsey.
49:54
That was good that that was a good touchdown because you threw
49:57
it to me. But but yeah, no, I, I, I just
49:59
feel like we have such a good core.
50:04
Of course, Wake Forest, his own Jesse Bates, like Raheem was
50:07
talking about Jesse Bates, just the, the leadership and the
50:12
level, the presence that he brings the locker room on both
50:15
sides of the ball. Being a a first team all pro
50:18
guy. Literally, I'm the best in the
50:20
NFL at my position, safety Jesse Bates and just the the key guys.
50:25
I hate that we got rid of Grady Jarrett, but some of the key
50:28
guys that we have in the locker room, they're not going to
50:32
accept another mediocre season. And they've said that directly.
50:36
And I don't just poopoo it on OTAs, but a lot of it starts in
50:42
the offseason. A lot of a lot of it starts
50:44
mindset wise in the offseason, which is why it's so important
50:47
to make sure that as much as the guys as possible or at these
50:50
workouts, as much as guys as possible are pushing themselves.
50:53
And if you miss superstar here there, you'll survive.
50:56
But you want like you're only as good as your worst players.
51:00
That's the thing you don't understand.
51:01
People don't get like, of course you need your superstars and
51:04
your receivers and your QBs, but you're as good as your worst
51:08
players. You need your bottom level guys,
51:11
your your rotational guys, they're your special teams guys
51:15
to all have the mindset of excellence.
51:18
And that's the type of culture I think Raheem's trying to put in
51:21
place. Especially I love our our new
51:23
DC, Jeff Olbrich. Olbrich.
51:26
That's legend. Olbrich.
51:29
There you go. His son's not too smart, but
51:33
actually he's a genius. That was absolutely funny.
51:36
I love him. I love him.
51:40
It was, it was, come on, that wasn't funny.
51:43
That wasn't funny. I have $100,000.
51:45
Fine. It wasn't $100,000 funny, I'll
51:47
tell you that. I'm sure, I'm sure ownership
51:50
gave him back the money. I mean, it definitely was under
51:53
the table. I don't think Jeff Ulbricht's
51:55
crying about the $100,000 his son lost him because it put him
51:59
center stage. It's all of the tabloids.
52:02
It's embarrassing though. Like I just had a situation with
52:05
my kids and thank goodness that was semi private I just shared
52:09
with you. But to have something be public
52:13
like that and to have like him and his wife and his family,
52:17
just to be eviscerated on every social media or every single
52:23
talk show, it's like, why would you bring this apart?
52:26
Was it wasn't that funny? Is it still funny, son?
52:28
But he but he wasn't the only one that did it.
52:31
He just happened to be his son. True.
52:33
Like the other guy, I don't know his name, but the problem is
52:36
like, yeah, like that's with great power comes great
52:38
responsibility. When you have the last name
52:40
Ulbricht, like you, you're going to get more attention than than
52:44
that guy. I'm sure Michael Vick was out
52:47
there doing the dog stuff with dozens of other people, but they
52:50
they got Michael Vick because he has the name.
52:51
Like it's just, my parents taught me at a very early age,
52:54
like you're going to get all the attention you so I can do the
52:58
same thing you did. And because they're not a
53:01
college athlete, high school athlete, professional athlete,
53:03
no one's going to care. No one's going to care.
53:05
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Yeah. I mean, of course I saw my ice
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I I've been an ice shaker fan for the longest time since Yeah,
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the gallon ones, the half gallon ones.
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MM Turner are getting ready for our big second year, our Blue
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It's not what you know too, you know.
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Yeah, of course I know. Somebody knows somebody.
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Well, I got something for you. Play with my pickle.
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I don't know if you want to play with his Pickles, Petey, Do you
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want to pay with his Pickles? I mean, we were just talking
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about just Shaquille O'neal's pickle.
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Yeah, we were. How about?
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How about? Is that your cucumber or are you
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happy to see me? None of the above.
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You guys, you got duty. My wife is waving me down to try
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eat a late dinner before we go. Well, where's my dinner?
55:56
Tell your wife. What is she cooking for me?
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What is she cooking for me? She's cooking rice and beans.
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My son wants chicharones for some reason.
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I don't know, he gets all these little tangents and he's been
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crying about chicharones. So chicharones, I think it's
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like some fried pork chops, potatoes, potatoes, mashed and
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sweet potatoes and some other stuff.
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So I can smell it. And so she came down to the
56:20
basement and gave me the wow. Yeah, I'd get the hell out of
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here too. I would too.
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I mean, tell, tell your wife that whenever she needs somebody
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to test her food. I'm more than willing.
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I mean, I'll, I'll fly over there to Atlanta and have my
56:34
little fun. I mean, by the way, where are we
56:36
going to get you and Mike Turner on the show?
56:38
How about that? Can we, can we work that we, we
56:42
can work out something. I, I, I'll see what we can do.
56:46
I mean, how do you guess that, that last sponsor guy, I know
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you're getting paid like, you know, 10s of thousands of
56:51
dollars. Oh yeah, right.
56:52
I mean, soon, by the way, I want to give a shout out.
56:54
I want to give a shout out to you.
56:55
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56:58
So we're working with Blue Wire now.
57:00
We're on a pretty well known podcast organization.
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Cam Newton's on it. Darius says what is it?
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Slay Slay, Darius Slay is on it. So we got a bunch of people have
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their own shows on air. Dwight Howard has his own show
57:14
on it. So yeah, we're we're on it.
57:16
And thank you. Thank you very much.
57:18
And we're very excited with Blue Wire.
57:20
And like I said, I would love to get you and Mike Turner on the
57:23
show and have a little fun with you guys.
57:25
Maybe we'll have a trivia with you guys and see who knows a
57:28
little bit more about the other guy and who knows more about
57:32
football than I do. How about that?
57:34
We'll have a nice competition over there.
57:37
How about that? You, you, you win.
57:38
It's actually embarrassing. Like I, I know football, but I,
57:41
I don't know shit about football.
57:43
Like if you ask me, like who was the first thing winning Super
57:46
Bowl Bears, the Green Bay Packers, or like who won?
57:50
You know who's the 1st team to win at 3 peat and I don't know.
57:55
I will tell you this, it wouldn't be fair if I put you
57:57
guys against Speedy because he's like a human Almanac.
58:00
Over Your second guess was right, though.
58:02
The Packers were the first game. Say I that it wouldn't be fits
58:06
Lombardi, right? Yeah, Lombardi trophy fits
58:07
Lombardi. Yeah, it wouldn't.
58:09
It wouldn't. Be fair.
58:10
Was Bart Starr the quarterback or is that 3?
58:13
No, Bart Starr was the quarterback.
58:15
Yeah, Bart Starr was, yes. Over you wouldn't stand a
58:18
chance, I don't think. At all.
58:21
If it's both with choice, I might have a chance.
58:24
I'm pretty lucky I guess, right? Own a friend?
58:27
Yeah, I definitely found a friend.
58:29
I mean, but what let's let's talk about that off air.
58:32
Let's get you and Mike Turner on the show.
58:33
I want to get you on where you can hang out a little bit and
58:36
we'll bring Mikey and Maggie on. And we never had Mikey on the
58:39
show and and have a little a little fun with him.
58:42
Have a little fun with both of you guys.
58:44
Y'all watch the podcast. We we had a good time.
58:47
Funny, I gotta I gotta post some pictures from the first annual
58:51
Falcons fan cruise. Me, Mike still have that
58:53
fullback tailback connection because we wore the same shoes
58:58
at dinner. We had the same black and silver
59:02
Bally shoes at dinner and I was like, you know what?
59:06
I knew you're going to have the same shoes with me.
59:07
Like I don't know what it is. It's like this ESPESPN that we
59:10
have where we're always thinking about doing the same thing.
59:13
It's it's pretty cool creaming involving people faces anyways.
59:19
Hey, get off here before you get in trouble.
59:22
Ovi, thank you for joining us and we will talk to you soon.
59:26
Speedy will be in contact with you.
59:28
Talk to Mike and we'll get you on the show probably in the next
59:30
couple of weeks. Sounds good guys.
59:33
Appreciate having me. Love you, Ovi.
59:34
Thank you. Appreciate you SO.
59:36
Much later, guys. Ovi, Moo, Haley, he's fantastic.
59:41
Oh yeah, he always is. Good guy, good dude, good
59:43
personality and very laid back. Doesn't really hold back on
59:47
anything, anything he says and and how many times have we had
59:52
him on the. Show, I think it's, I think that
59:53
was the sixth. The first time we had him was
59:55
when Tyler was still on the show with us.
59:56
I remember I told him, I told him in the car who we were
1:00:00
having on. He actually recognized him from
1:00:02
when he when he was playing. So I think, I think we've had
1:00:04
him on every year since then at least once.
1:00:06
Yeah, it's it's interesting and a lot of different stories we've
1:00:10
heard from MU and and and understanding what type of
1:00:14
player he was. I don't think people understand
1:00:16
how great of a fullback he is. Guy is a two time all pro player
1:00:22
at his position. There are no real big full backs
1:00:25
anymore in the NFL. There's one on on the 49ers.
1:00:28
That's about it. There's really not.
1:00:30
It's it's a lost position. We've talked, we've talked with
1:00:34
Ovie about this and why the NFL has pushed the full back
1:00:37
position away from the NFL. He says it's not needed anymore.
1:00:40
I disagree. And also he was like taking
1:00:42
shots on all the awards the way they end up coming up because
1:00:44
they're like a lot of them. So only got the accolades
1:00:46
because they were only good receivers and there are better
1:00:49
ones that are blockers. Like I think he's brought up
1:00:50
Lorenzo O'Neill a lot and guys like that that were better
1:00:53
blockers. Absolutely.
1:00:54
And it's so crazy because when when when you speak about some
1:00:58
of the best at their position, Ovie gets lost because there's
1:01:01
quite a few full backs that you can remember that we've had on
1:01:05
the show before. One of them, the Nigerian,
1:01:07
Nigerian nightmare. This guy is a Hall of Famer and
1:01:12
was one of the more right and shining armor, you know, full
1:01:16
backs in the NFL when he played for Kansas City.
1:01:18
So we, we definitely love Ovie and we're really happy that he
1:01:22
can make it and he could make it.
1:01:24
And well, I would love to get Mike Turner on the show, no
1:01:26
question, because Mike Turner was a really good player and
1:01:30
I've heard a very good personality.
1:01:32
I, I've watched his show a little bit.
1:01:34
Ovie's the funny guy and he's definitely the better looking
1:01:37
guy. There's no question.
1:01:38
But Mike Turner has a really good, he has really good
1:01:43
football knowledge and he was a really good running back.
1:01:45
So very, very excited to get both of them on if we can get
1:01:49
them on. David threw in a Jeff Holbrook
1:01:50
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