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- 0:05Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift up. What's up everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Chambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
- 0:40Speaker 1: edition of the Takedown Breakdown here on the Ship at
- 0:42Speaker 1: Nation YouTube station. Make sure to tap that thumbs up
- 0:45Speaker 1: on the way in. Subscribe to the channel for all
- 0:47Speaker 1: of our free shows, and we're gonna break down everything
- 0:49Speaker 1: from the week fifteen main slate. We've got the twenty
- 0:53Speaker 1: dollars million maker. We're gonna look at the perfect lineup,
- 0:55Speaker 1: gonna look at my run at the Milliemaker over on FanDuel,
- 0:58Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Fantasy Football World Championship for DraftKings
- 1:02Speaker 1: there and have a look at all that throughout. But
- 1:04Speaker 1: I got my guy. Naid's here with me, has always
- 1:06Speaker 1: still no mister Bellman. Just a note an update on him.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Always thinking about this guy. Everyone is thinking about him
- 1:11Speaker 1: right now at the Nation. Went in for a back surgery,
- 1:14Speaker 1: came out over the weekend healthy. It seems just gonna
- 1:17Speaker 1: be a long road to recovery. So we're wishing him
- 1:18Speaker 1: the best. But he sends his well wishes, certainly misses
- 1:21Speaker 1: out and he's been involved as much as he can
- 1:23Speaker 1: be in and out of this this stuff. He's going
- 1:25Speaker 1: on with his back, but certainly appreciate Himnates, bring you in, man.
- 1:28Speaker 1: It was an interesting slate, big game slate, Big thirteen gamer.
- 1:31Speaker 1: A lot of people had some trouble with it thinking
- 1:33Speaker 1: of it, but we were pretty close there, and I
- 1:35Speaker 1: know you had a good run as well.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my better Sundays. Just overall yesterday, pretty
- 1:41Speaker 2: tilting starts. Obviously, injury real slate with multiple teams. I mean,
- 1:45Speaker 2: you just hate to see and I hate to see
- 1:46Speaker 2: acl injuries with anyone, not just the Packers, but Mahomes
- 1:49Speaker 2: going down, and then you had a bunch of other
- 1:51Speaker 2: stuff going down.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Right DeVonta Adams, I don't know what that looks like.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Obviously, that's a big piece of the Rams, who look
- 1:57Speaker 2: like the best team in football right now and definitely
- 1:59Speaker 2: the clear cut Super Bowl favorites in my opinion. But
- 2:03Speaker 2: without Defonte Adams that probably changes there. And we'll talk
- 2:05Speaker 2: about that. Those tilting touchdowns that went that way, that
- 2:08Speaker 2: hurt both of us in that game there, and that's
- 2:11Speaker 2: just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes there. But overall,
- 2:14Speaker 2: I thought it was a really I like slates like
- 2:16Speaker 2: this where it's not really that clear cut but it's
- 2:19Speaker 2: clear cut in a way where you know the field
- 2:21Speaker 2: is going and you can make leveraged roster construction type
- 2:25Speaker 2: builds and not just worry about the chalk. It's more
- 2:29Speaker 2: so focusing on the build in general versus the picks
- 2:32Speaker 2: and the plays, which we do a ton breaking down
- 2:34Speaker 2: on here in all of our content over at ship
- 2:36Speaker 2: Nation talking about that. So, I think it was a
- 2:38Speaker 2: really good slate for that yesterday, just because you had
- 2:41Speaker 2: a pretty clear cut right people were spending down it,
- 2:43Speaker 2: running back and spending up for two or three of
- 2:46Speaker 2: those stud wide receivers which we talked about that all
- 2:49Speaker 2: pretty much smashed.
- 2:50Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you needed.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Pretty much Pooka and a Mona in that highest total
- 2:56Speaker 2: game as a different way to play that game too,
- 2:58Speaker 2: which we'll talk about there a lot of people one
- 3:00Speaker 2: of the Gibbs stuff and things like that, the Jamison
- 3:02Speaker 2: Williams there. So overall thought it was really good slate,
- 3:05Speaker 2: really close calls in both main slate for you and
- 3:08Speaker 2: I and then Showdown as well as right there as well.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I know with Title and Rio we're right there as
- 3:13Speaker 2: well a lot of us in overall, a really good
- 3:16Speaker 2: day at the Nation again, Yeah.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Really good day. Like I said, shut up the new
- 3:19Speaker 1: ones in the chat, Sean Sullivan, we got our guy
- 3:21Speaker 1: go collect who had a big NBA weekend. Congrats to him,
- 3:24Speaker 1: said he said, Chad Power's optimal. Yeah, I made fun
- 3:26Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence, like the real life Chad Power is
- 3:29Speaker 1: really good game for him. We'll definitely be talking about
- 3:30Speaker 1: him in a minute. Jerry Matt says, the first day
- 3:33Speaker 1: of Honkah, So happy holidays. Happy Honkah to you, my friend.
- 3:36Speaker 1: And I know you got yourself a big win over
- 3:38Speaker 1: the weekend as well. Andrew. This is really just we
- 3:41Speaker 1: started the show a bit early today because we knew
- 3:43Speaker 1: were gonna tilt more and so we had to get
- 3:45Speaker 1: it going for that. We'll go through everything here in
- 3:46Speaker 1: a minute. And this was my guy Hoop. My guy
- 3:49Speaker 1: Hoop absolutely nailed the McBride call. He nailed the genty
- 3:52Speaker 1: is the terrible play calling. What Hoop says typically is
- 3:55Speaker 1: what goes. So you know, we'll give him his props
- 3:57Speaker 1: later on this afternoon. We'll be back at two pm Eastern.
- 3:59Speaker 1: But he definitely nailed that spot for both of those guys.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 4:03Speaker 1: I mean, the McBride thing was dead right, but Also
- 4:06Speaker 1: it's funny like that still doesn't show up anywhere because
- 4:08Speaker 1: nobody played him and he was just hard to get to.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So I think you. I don't even know if he
- 4:12Speaker 1: made any of the top ten lineups in the twenty
- 4:14Speaker 1: dollars million Maker, but that's just a product of the slate.
- 4:15Speaker 1: It was a great call on his part to flip
- 4:17Speaker 1: the build and get different that way. So let's bring
- 4:20Speaker 1: this up reminder real quick at some of the marketing
- 4:22Speaker 1: stuff out of the way fast, but make sure to
- 4:24Speaker 1: follow us on X at ship a Nation. We've got
- 4:28Speaker 1: the twelve days of ship Miss. The next winner should
- 4:30Speaker 1: be announced if it hasn't been already, it's coming out
- 4:32Speaker 1: very shortly. And then we will have the day three
- 4:35Speaker 1: with the special ship Miss task where it's going to
- 4:37Speaker 1: be three three months given away, or if you're a member,
- 4:39Speaker 1: it's just a bill credit for three hundred dollars, so
- 4:42Speaker 1: you still get taken care of with cash prize that
- 4:43Speaker 1: way via your membership credit. So you can see me,
- 4:46Speaker 1: you know, wearing a Santa hat. This was with the
- 4:48Speaker 1: Christmas Fication cup and my drink of choice Today's I
- 4:51Speaker 1: believe Today's is your holiday dessert of choice.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Nay.
- 4:56Speaker 1: What's your holiday dessert of choice.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I'm a big so homemade homemade Christmas cookies in candy,
- 5:03Speaker 2: but more so the peanut butter balls.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Homemade peanut butter balls. They're great.
- 5:07Speaker 2: It's like a little uh, it's basically like a Reese's
- 5:09Speaker 2: peanut butter cup, but homemade.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Obviously with the chocolate.
- 5:12Speaker 2: You can make them with white chocolate too, And yeah,
- 5:14Speaker 2: they're pretty pretty tasty, especially when you store them outside
- 5:17Speaker 2: in this freezing cold weather. I think yesterday was like
- 5:19Speaker 2: negative four degrees. Saturday was like negative four degrees. So
- 5:23Speaker 2: throw those suckers outside. You pop one, and they're really nice.
- 5:27Speaker 1: So the video today, I said cookies because I mean,
- 5:29Speaker 1: on I love Christmas cookies. I don't eat cookies very
- 5:31Speaker 1: often throughout the year, which is not I'm not a
- 5:32Speaker 1: big sweets guy, to be honest. But at Christmas time,
- 5:35Speaker 1: there's two things and my wife just didn't have the
- 5:37Speaker 1: other one made. And it's not this Jordan brings up
- 5:40Speaker 1: peppermint bark, but it's called we call it Christmas crack,
- 5:44Speaker 1: and it's like those plain like saltine crackers blended up
- 5:48Speaker 1: with all the sugars. You can imagine the chocolates. Everything
- 5:51Speaker 1: sort of glazes the top of it, and then you
- 5:53Speaker 1: put like M and M's or something over the top
- 5:55Speaker 1: of that, and then once it's all frozen, it comes
- 5:57Speaker 1: out and it's like Christmas crack. You just can't stop
- 5:59Speaker 1: eating it. So yeah, lots of good things out there.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Congrats to the winners too around the nation. Jerry Matt
- 6:04Speaker 1: who we just saw there. He had twenty thousand dollars
- 6:07Speaker 1: plus yesterday. I've been working with him in the mentorship program,
- 6:09Speaker 1: so congrats to him. Love to see that. Nung took
- 6:12Speaker 1: down an afternoon only for five thousand. We had a
- 6:15Speaker 1: nine dollars to sixteen hundred dollars in showdown. You gotta
- 6:18Speaker 1: love the ROI there. Jonesy's been on a bit of
- 6:20Speaker 1: a run. Another close call with eleventh for five thousand.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Big day. It's not all on there for Kenny. This
- 6:27Speaker 1: was part of it. This was his last night Thunderdome
- 6:29Speaker 1: quadruple or whatever. But in the afternoon he won a
- 6:32Speaker 1: bunch of money as well on the main slate that
- 6:34Speaker 1: he posted. So I saw that one thousand to almost
- 6:36Speaker 1: seventy two hundred, and then my man the dirty sheet
- 6:38Speaker 1: got the job done last night for fifty k. Absolute
- 6:41Speaker 1: blowout and showdown. When you win by five points, you
- 6:43Speaker 1: just don't see that very often. So congrats to him.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Smaller field, but five point blow up, fifty k up
- 6:49Speaker 1: top for him as well. This was yesterday for me.
- 6:53Speaker 1: This was the run at the Millimaker. I said it here.
- 6:55Speaker 1: It was my third time getting third in the Millimaker,
- 6:58Speaker 1: so I thought the third time was the charm. I'll
- 6:59Speaker 1: show the lineup. I had sick tight, had me blocked
- 7:03Speaker 1: with golf Jmo and Aman Ross Saint Brown, but I
- 7:07Speaker 1: had Kittle Pollard and who's the other one? Kittle Pollard
- 7:12Speaker 1: and Puka the highest pooka in the tournament, and none
- 7:15Speaker 1: of that stuff could get there. So really fun sweat
- 7:17Speaker 1: down the stretch, just didn't fully get there. Lucky man, though,
- 7:20Speaker 1: very lucky man, because I don't know what world this
- 7:23Speaker 1: is a touchdown in for Kolbe Parkinson, so I'm tilting
- 7:26Speaker 1: a little, but Man's that's brutal. That was the difference
- 7:28Speaker 1: in one hundred k versus fifty k. So there's that,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and it could have been Pooka that got it instead.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Maybe he was back on the sideline ready to go,
- 7:35Speaker 1: but just tough scene. For the NFL officiating, Like it
- 7:38Speaker 1: says here, the Lions gout host. That is not a touchdown,
- 7:40Speaker 1: my friend, But I know it helps some people, So
- 7:42Speaker 1: congrats to them. Anything else their needs you want to
- 7:44Speaker 1: talk about before you go to the perfect lineup?
- 7:46Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just that play.
- 7:47Speaker 2: I mean that NFL officiating this year has just been stoneworst,
- 7:49Speaker 2: and it's coming at the worst times, right, primetime games,
- 7:53Speaker 2: whenever you know the majority of the masses, right of
- 7:56Speaker 2: fans of your sport are watching it, right, the Rams
- 8:00Speaker 2: Lions game. Right, you know a lot of people are
- 8:01Speaker 2: on there in the in the primetime afternoon window, these
- 8:04Speaker 2: standalone island games. Right, The officiating has just been absolutely atrocious.
- 8:07Speaker 2: And I'm usually not one to harp on the rafts
- 8:10Speaker 2: and officiating too much, but it's been, Uh, it's been
- 8:13Speaker 2: pretty brutal all year, and it's just diminishing the overall product,
- 8:17Speaker 2: which you hate to see, right, I mean, they got
- 8:19Speaker 2: one job out there, and I know it's a it's
- 8:21Speaker 2: a thankless job right at times, and it's definitely tough
- 8:23Speaker 2: and I couldn't do it myself, So I give them
- 8:26Speaker 2: kudos to that, but it's just pretty brutal. Because a
- 8:29Speaker 2: lot of the calls have been changing. The outcomes are
- 8:32Speaker 2: at least impacting the outcomes of the games in many instances,
- 8:35Speaker 2: which you hate to see.
- 8:37Speaker 1: So yeah, I just sent this over to new ones
- 8:40Speaker 1: right quick. The Christmas crack man. Look at that thing.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Just delicious, buddy, So I sent them the recipe. Anyway,
- 8:46Speaker 1: you guys can check it out there. Let's look at
- 8:47Speaker 1: the perfect lineup. This was the Chad power as they
- 8:51Speaker 1: said it. But Trevor Lawrence with etn all passing touch
- 8:55Speaker 1: has three of them to them. That was crazy.
- 8:56Speaker 3: I know.
- 8:57Speaker 1: In the beginning of the game, people told me etm
- 8:59Speaker 1: was dead and there was no way he was gonna
- 9:01Speaker 1: make any you know, score any points today. But yeah,
- 9:03Speaker 1: we do, I said. I made the call to Roger Goodell.
- 9:05Speaker 1: He told me in good faith. They do still play
- 9:07Speaker 1: four quarters, so you gotta wait for those points to
- 9:09Speaker 1: happen sometimes. But look at the game for Eten Junior
- 9:12Speaker 1: with thirty one point five Henderson these I know. Alex
- 9:16Speaker 1: made a case on Levera Jelane it could have been Remandre.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I couldn't argue with him like I thought it could
- 9:19Speaker 1: be either or. But these running backs that have these
- 9:22Speaker 1: explosive abilities, and Henderson, I would say, is one of
- 9:25Speaker 1: those now that we've seen. I think he's tied in
- 9:27Speaker 1: the league for four or five fifty plus yard touchdowns
- 9:29Speaker 1: now or something that rushing touchdowns. These explosive backs against
- 9:32Speaker 1: the Bills just take off. Man, It's been absolutely nuts.
- 9:34Speaker 1: So Henderson crushed DJ Moore after being the good Samaritan
- 9:38Speaker 1: that he is, obviously got the late Romodunese news. Both
- 9:41Speaker 1: him and Luther Burden, by the way, had good games.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I don't know if he had enough time to get
- 9:44Speaker 1: him in your lineups. It was like literally three minutes
- 9:46Speaker 1: before Lockett feels like when this stuff came up. But anyway,
- 9:50Speaker 1: they talked about more saying, yo, I don't really care
- 9:52Speaker 1: about my individual points. I just want to get the
- 9:54Speaker 1: dubs and keep crushing it with this team. We're having
- 9:56Speaker 1: a good time. Obviously Ben Johnson has these guys doing
- 9:58Speaker 1: something special and rallied around his arrival, but just looking
- 10:02Speaker 1: at what this team's doing and continuously another good game
- 10:05Speaker 1: and more Head himself a game. Sutton, good score there,
- 10:08Speaker 1: amenro Amanra Parkinson chargers McBride to round out the perfect
- 10:12Speaker 1: lineup needs Now, this was too eighty four. This is
- 10:16Speaker 1: one of those weeks where it wasn't even close. Right,
- 10:19Speaker 1: The winner of the twenty dollars million maker smashed with
- 10:21Speaker 1: two thirty six, beating second place by five, beating third
- 10:24Speaker 1: place by eight, And that just goes to show but
- 10:27Speaker 1: this was a two eighty four optimal. Give me, give
- 10:30Speaker 1: me some thoughts here if you got them.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Trevor Lawrence stuff.
- 10:35Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we know the Jets defenses is stone worst.
- 10:38Speaker 3: How those two kind.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Of got there was was kind of funny, But yeah,
- 10:41Speaker 2: discord discord. First quarter of tilt and NFL football games
- 10:44Speaker 2: remains undefeated. Just like Thursday in PGA, Right, everyone tilts
- 10:48Speaker 2: their golfers, not realizing that they have many, many times
- 10:53Speaker 2: twenty seven plus holes left left to play or in
- 10:55Speaker 2: this case, three quarters.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Did the old chat GPT checked it, and yeah, it
- 11:00Speaker 2: did tell me that there's four quarters left in NFL
- 11:02Speaker 2: football football games. Again, So the Trevor Lawrence ETN stuff,
- 11:06Speaker 2: everyone wanted to play ETN. He got there, but he
- 11:09Speaker 2: got there in a way that nobody kind of expected.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:11Speaker 2: It was all through the receiving game. But hey, that's
- 11:14Speaker 2: that's the nature.
- 11:14Speaker 3: Of the beast.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Travon Henderson right, running backs just continue to smash Buffalo.
- 11:19Speaker 2: It was kind of an uncertainty there at at the
- 11:23Speaker 2: position with Ramandre, but I would say Henderson has over
- 11:27Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks kind of separate himself after
- 11:29Speaker 2: the Stevenson injury and things like that, so it was
- 11:32Speaker 2: kind of hard to avoid it, kind of hard to
- 11:34Speaker 2: envision that he wouldn't at least get his shot. And
- 11:36Speaker 2: he was also a pivot in the Woody Marks range, right.
- 11:39Speaker 2: You knew everyone was playing Woody Marked at fifty six
- 11:41Speaker 2: hundred dollars, so a little bit more expensive there. There's
- 11:44Speaker 2: guys cheaper as well, like Devin Neil, things like that
- 11:47Speaker 2: that people were playing as well. So that's how you
- 11:49Speaker 2: could have kind of landed on a play like Trayvon
- 11:53Speaker 2: Henderson as a piece of that total. And I'm sure
- 11:55Speaker 2: a lot of people probably did skinny stacks with Josh
- 11:57Speaker 2: Allen naked with Travion on the run back is just
- 12:00Speaker 2: two explosive guys that can get there in their own right, right.
- 12:03Speaker 3: The Dj Moore.
- 12:05Speaker 2: That was also, I mean, DeAndre Swift had a pretty
- 12:08Speaker 2: solid game as well. Dj Moore, Luther and Burdon I
- 12:10Speaker 2: think it's all due to the late news that broke
- 12:13Speaker 2: within three minutes of lock right with Roma Dunza, and
- 12:15Speaker 2: that's why you got to be around. I mean, it's
- 12:18Speaker 2: not that late news breaks a ton in NFL, but
- 12:21Speaker 2: when it does, right, you definitely have an edge. I
- 12:24Speaker 2: mean Dj Moore came in unowned Luther Burden as a
- 12:26Speaker 2: value play. That was a pivot off with guys like
- 12:28Speaker 2: Michael Tinsley who was running win sprints out there, and
- 12:32Speaker 2: they got straight straight blanked. I mean that any little
- 12:34Speaker 2: edge like that is big edges in tournaments when it's
- 12:38Speaker 2: so top heavy, right, So think that was good. And
- 12:41Speaker 2: then the Monro Parkinson obviously the biggest total there, but
- 12:45Speaker 2: that was a.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Different way to stack that game, right.
- 12:48Speaker 2: You knew a lot of people wanted Puka, right, a
- 12:50Speaker 2: lot of people wanted Jamison Williams and Jamior Gibbs. Those
- 12:53Speaker 2: are kind of the three main focal points of that game,
- 12:56Speaker 2: So you kind of flip that game around a little bit,
- 12:58Speaker 2: and that's kind of how you how you on something
- 13:00Speaker 2: like that, right, And when we review the winning lineups,
- 13:02Speaker 2: a lot of them had that combo pack and then
- 13:04Speaker 2: Trey McBride, right when everybody wanted to spend down at
- 13:07Speaker 2: tight ends. Right, the Baltimore tight ends can't miss. They're
- 13:09Speaker 2: going to score ninety points, right, like it has happened.
- 13:12Speaker 2: But what if it doesn't.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Right?
- 13:13Speaker 2: What if you flip the build and go all the
- 13:14Speaker 2: way up at tight end and avoid the Michael Tinsley's
- 13:17Speaker 2: the value wide receivers and just flip the build and
- 13:19Speaker 2: play the mid tier with one spend up instead of
- 13:21Speaker 2: two or three spend ups like most people, and you're
- 13:23Speaker 2: using that other spend up at a onesie tight end
- 13:26Speaker 2: position and then using the flex in a typical two
- 13:30Speaker 2: tight end build, which we knew yesterday that most people
- 13:33Speaker 2: were going to.
- 13:33Speaker 3: You did it in a way that.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Was different in terms of a roster construction, playing a
- 13:37Speaker 2: spend up and not playing to spend down tight ends,
- 13:40Speaker 2: which I think is was a really sharp and then
- 13:43Speaker 2: the Chargers pivot at the same price point as the
- 13:45Speaker 2: Saints defense that everybody wanted to play. You just kind
- 13:48Speaker 2: of land on there in a game that you could
- 13:51Speaker 2: have saw was a grinded out game. I know a
- 13:53Speaker 2: lot of people didn't have interest in that game from
- 13:56Speaker 2: a DFS perspective. So if that's the case, you definitely
- 13:58Speaker 2: got to take a look at both defenses that you
- 14:00Speaker 2: and the chargers.
- 14:01Speaker 3: That's how you could have landed there.
- 14:02Speaker 2: But obviously this is kind of off the board when
- 14:04Speaker 2: it scores fifty more points than what the millimaker does,
- 14:07Speaker 2: when when there's one hundred and forty seven thousand entrants
- 14:09Speaker 2: in there.
- 14:10Speaker 3: So we're going to see a lot of.
- 14:12Speaker 2: That, and I know the bear stuff is going to
- 14:14Speaker 2: come into play on the million Maker winner, and then
- 14:16Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that that high total game
- 14:19Speaker 2: that everybody wanted to play and how they kind of
- 14:21Speaker 2: played it differently.
- 14:22Speaker 1: So yeah, I wanted to, you know, hit a couple
- 14:25Speaker 1: of things in the chat real quick, like you know
- 14:27Speaker 1: this one for sure, Like when we say that this
- 14:29Speaker 1: optimal is partially result and we only look at we
- 14:31Speaker 1: always say this, we look at the optimal, it's the
- 14:32Speaker 1: perfect score, Like obviously it's all the fill in the
- 14:34Speaker 1: blanks of the best positions and the amount they scored
- 14:37Speaker 1: them to make it all fit. Forty nine eight equals
- 14:39Speaker 1: too und eighty four point four points, so not quite
- 14:41Speaker 1: the full salaries been. But I guess that's the when
- 14:43Speaker 1: you see an optimal like this, you just know it's
- 14:45Speaker 1: because this is not how people build. That's why it's
- 14:47Speaker 1: so far off. When you see a more correlated optimal,
- 14:50Speaker 1: it's because that's how people build, so some most likely
- 14:53Speaker 1: got to that correlation. The thing about like the the
- 14:55Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Etn. Junior thing, it's just not many people
- 14:58Speaker 1: are going to land on that combo. We can check
- 15:00Speaker 1: it in stack Seeker afterwards. But also like things like this,
- 15:03Speaker 1: and Jerry had a huge day yesterday, but Alan and
- 15:06Speaker 1: Cook is terrible like it, and it's never gonna get
- 15:08Speaker 1: It's almost like the Mahomesing look it up. It's like
- 15:10Speaker 1: never gonna get there. It's like Hurts and Barkley. It's
- 15:13Speaker 1: any time it happens, they usually eat each other up.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And you could say whatever about yesterday, But guess you
- 15:17Speaker 1: know when Alan's score is not needed no matter what
- 15:19Speaker 1: he wants to put up, is when Trevor Lawrence puts
- 15:21Speaker 1: up forty seven and someone that didn't play Josh Allen
- 15:24Speaker 1: there and decided to play Cook with Trevor Lawrence could
- 15:27Speaker 1: just get that score that way and pick it up there,
- 15:29Speaker 1: so may Henderson as possible because it's a bit cheaper.
- 15:33Speaker 1: T law Etn. Is a bit more unique, but I
- 15:35Speaker 1: think you have to you know, a lot more lineup,
- 15:36Speaker 1: so we're gonna look at it for sure, because we've
- 15:38Speaker 1: got need lunch bunnies lineup. He had Trevor, Trevor Lawrence
- 15:42Speaker 1: and Travis Etn Jr. In there, and in a nicer
- 15:46Speaker 1: build than what we're kind of seeing here, of like
- 15:47Speaker 1: this is just a mishmash of the better score, but
- 15:50Speaker 1: just a note, that's how he won the FFWC. And
- 15:53Speaker 1: we will be taking a look at that lineup here
- 15:54Speaker 1: in just a little bit. But not too much else
- 15:57Speaker 1: to add or takeaways on this as much as some
- 15:59Speaker 1: of the spots that came up. If the chalk busts
- 16:02Speaker 1: on like a Woody Mark's injury, the guy had ten
- 16:04Speaker 1: or eleven before he goes out. Neil was having a
- 16:07Speaker 1: good game before he goes out. I I heard you,
- 16:09Speaker 1: Naid's like, there's things like that that you could just
- 16:11Speaker 1: go away from. But any anytime there's gonna be the
- 16:14Speaker 1: condensed chalk like that on certain plays. By all means
- 16:17Speaker 1: you can look for the ceiling scores going to other
- 16:19Speaker 1: guys in these ranges and try and find them. And
- 16:21Speaker 1: we talked about Etn yesterday who mentioned it with Etn
- 16:25Speaker 1: Barkley and Henry Barkley didn't fully come through. Henry definitely
- 16:28Speaker 1: didn't come through, but Etn ends up coming through, and
- 16:31Speaker 1: he said it's gonna be one of those three that
- 16:32Speaker 1: are for sure there because you just can't get to
- 16:34Speaker 1: them enough with the CMC, the Gibbs, all that stuff.
- 16:37Speaker 1: I always I nailed it on this yesterday I said
- 16:39Speaker 1: it with a Monro though. I said, like when people
- 16:42Speaker 1: don't classify a Monra as a study, they're just not
- 16:45Speaker 1: classifying it as a stud on the slate yesterday because
- 16:49Speaker 1: they're saying, well, Gibbs is that stud, it can't be
- 16:51Speaker 1: a Monra too. But when you're playing a Manra over that,
- 16:54Speaker 1: that's when it becomes a key factor where it's like, well,
- 16:56Speaker 1: I'm making him my stud because I'm extracting everything you
- 16:59Speaker 1: guys think Gibbs is and giving it to a Manra
- 17:02Speaker 1: as the ceiling there instead. That's kind of what we
- 17:06Speaker 1: want to see, right, So it makes a ton of sense.
- 17:08Speaker 1: And then yeah, this cost me a bunch. That's they
- 17:12Speaker 1: went three of the four targets to a Manra and
- 17:15Speaker 1: Jamo at the end and then got the flag and
- 17:18Speaker 1: then ran it in with Montgomery. That one certainly hurt.
- 17:21Speaker 1: This was another big thing too. I think between Geski,
- 17:25Speaker 1: Andrews and Likely we got like three for thirty three
- 17:28Speaker 1: or something or three for thirty eight across all three guys.
- 17:30Speaker 1: You had Mitch Tinsley into that and who you mentioned
- 17:33Speaker 1: the wind sprints over there, like none of those guys
- 17:36Speaker 1: did anything, So that was kind of brutal. Just I
- 17:38Speaker 1: guess that's the product of like these Division games AFC
- 17:40Speaker 1: North Battle. You know, it was going so slow and
- 17:43Speaker 1: then to even see the Ravens pick up twenty four
- 17:46Speaker 1: points in that by the end of it was crazy,
- 17:47Speaker 1: but just the way it goes. And I didn't see
- 17:51Speaker 1: Coach save here till now, but a huge weekend for
- 17:53Speaker 1: them as well. So congrats to you. Is the best
- 17:55Speaker 1: weekend of my life. Appreciate all y'all's hard work. Congrats
- 17:57Speaker 1: to you. You're the one putting in the work, so
- 17:59Speaker 1: we love to see that. That's what it's all about,
- 18:00Speaker 1: and that's really what we've been trying to do from
- 18:02Speaker 1: day one, and ship a Nation is get you so
- 18:03Speaker 1: you can set up on your own process, know how
- 18:06Speaker 1: you got there, and now you can go back and
- 18:07Speaker 1: try and do it all over again. So congrats to you.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Man Love that certainly made fun of this a ton,
- 18:13Speaker 1: but my goodness, it is a tough, tough battle for
- 18:16Speaker 1: him out there with that O line, like it's just insane.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Like someone said earlier, for them to put up zero
- 18:20Speaker 1: on the Ravens, you know it's bad when so I
- 18:23Speaker 1: don't know, both those teams need fixed in some way,
- 18:25Speaker 1: shape or for him. The Ravens play calling is atrocious.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I mean, they're lucky to get there in some of
- 18:29Speaker 1: these games and spots like yesterday, but man, it's been very,
- 18:32Speaker 1: very bad as a fan watching some of the play
- 18:35Speaker 1: calling they use Henry pick up twenty five yards at
- 18:38Speaker 1: a time and then get down there and not run
- 18:40Speaker 1: them once. It's like, what are we doing here? The
- 18:41Speaker 1: dude is picking up twenty five a carry on this
- 18:43Speaker 1: drive and that's exaggerating because it's two or three rushes
- 18:46Speaker 1: and he's getting like ten total or whatever. But my
- 18:48Speaker 1: point is you don't just go away from that when
- 18:50Speaker 1: you get down there. People don't want to tackle him
- 18:52Speaker 1: when it's freezing cold out. This team doesn't seem to
- 18:54Speaker 1: give a shit, like I would just jam it on
- 18:56Speaker 1: them all day with him, and they just don't do it.
- 18:58Speaker 1: So whatever Giants and wharfs Nates, this was them. I
- 19:03Speaker 1: don't know if you see how many lineups they had
- 19:04Speaker 1: in it, but this is the winner of the million
- 19:07Speaker 1: dollars yesterday with two hundred and thirty six point oh two.
- 19:10Speaker 1: This is the twenty dollars two point five million dollar
- 19:13Speaker 1: Fantasy football millionaire maker on DraftKings. And it was a
- 19:16Speaker 1: golf alman Ross Jamison Williams with Pooka and Parkinson. Then
- 19:21Speaker 1: it had Henderson, it had Swift with the Chicago defense,
- 19:26Speaker 1: and then Ben Sinnat which is the fill in there
- 19:29Speaker 1: with no Ertz and everything they got going on in Washington.
- 19:31Speaker 1: So it was a two tight end lineup that made
- 19:33Speaker 1: it all work and got to the game stack and
- 19:36Speaker 1: the overstack and what was just ended up being the
- 19:38Speaker 1: good game on the slates.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Thoughts on this one, Yeah, who who runs better than
- 19:42Speaker 2: having Sinnat in the in the flax right at lock?
- 19:47Speaker 3: You just know you're gonna ship when when that happens,
- 19:49Speaker 3: right instead of.
- 19:50Speaker 1: You know that Colbe Parkinson touchdown is going to be
- 19:52Speaker 1: called a touchdown in advance.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Right correct?
- 19:54Speaker 2: He knows that, Hey, the end zone is actually on
- 19:56Speaker 2: the three yard line instead of the go line for
- 19:59Speaker 2: Kobe Parkinson and in that fifty four and a half
- 20:01Speaker 2: point total. But I'll start with the GOP side of things. Right,
- 20:04Speaker 2: you knew going in that Stafford side, everybody wanted the
- 20:06Speaker 2: Stafford side. But what do you realize going in the
- 20:09Speaker 2: Stafford side was harder to stack up, right, when when
- 20:12Speaker 2: you did it.
- 20:13Speaker 3: It was more expensive. Right?
- 20:14Speaker 2: You knew Parkinson was going to kind of come preloaded
- 20:18Speaker 2: in Matthew Stafford builds because of the price points on
- 20:22Speaker 2: Puoka and DeVante Adams. Right, it was very, very challenging
- 20:24Speaker 2: yesterday to fit both Puka and Devanta Adams when you
- 20:28Speaker 2: would have had to fade guys like Amanra, Jamior Gibbs,
- 20:32Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Jamar Chase, right, all these other.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Spend up guys.
- 20:36Speaker 2: So I think that's a pretty sharp move, flip in
- 20:39Speaker 2: the build but still playing within the same game. So
- 20:41Speaker 2: a setup like this with Pooka and Kobe Parkinson, most
- 20:44Speaker 2: would have played Matthew Stafford there because that's what the
- 20:47Speaker 2: chalk was. So flipping it to the other side and
- 20:49Speaker 2: just doing an overstack of the already popular game when
- 20:52Speaker 2: most people are getting out with three or four pieces.
- 20:55Speaker 2: You go in and you say, hey, give me five,
- 20:57Speaker 2: give me six pieces of this game, and if it's
- 21:00Speaker 2: I'm going to have majority of the angles cover. So
- 21:02Speaker 2: I think that's really sharp. And then you're just landing
- 21:05Speaker 2: on what fits right. Really really good matchup as a
- 21:08Speaker 2: pivot off of all the chalk in that range Travon Henderson,
- 21:11Speaker 2: which I already talked about, really good matchup in Buffalo.
- 21:14Speaker 2: There still kind of a grinded out game in New England.
- 21:17Speaker 2: They're still home. It was two and a half point
- 21:19Speaker 2: spread right, so close game, and it just kind of
- 21:22Speaker 2: lands you there and avoids all the chalk in the
- 21:25Speaker 2: wider or the running back range right with like the
- 21:27Speaker 2: Woody Marks plays and things like that. And then you
- 21:30Speaker 2: double leverage it down as well of Woody Marks for
- 21:32Speaker 2: one hundred dollars more, and you play DeAndre Swift and
- 21:34Speaker 2: pair it up against Shader Sanders on the road in
- 21:37Speaker 2: five degree temperatures in Chicago, which is already a hard place,
- 21:41Speaker 2: and you get the defense that's a pivot off of
- 21:44Speaker 2: the Texans, a pivot off of all the expensive defenses
- 21:47Speaker 2: the Seahawks, everyone up at the top range, and then
- 21:50Speaker 2: playing Shader Sanders on the road outdoors and they already
- 21:53Speaker 2: have lead led the league in turnovers, so I think
- 21:56Speaker 2: this is a really really sharp build. And then you
- 21:58Speaker 2: just land on a onesie position and Bensonott you should
- 22:01Speaker 2: have put him in the tight end position, but hey,
- 22:03Speaker 2: who runs better than than Giant and wharfs here for
- 22:07Speaker 2: the tune of a million dollars.
- 22:08Speaker 3: I think it's a really really sharp build.
- 22:10Speaker 2: And the main thing is that the flip flop of
- 22:13Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff, which then allowed you to
- 22:15Speaker 2: go up and get off of the Devin Neils, get
- 22:17Speaker 2: off the woody marks and get to a guy like
- 22:20Speaker 2: Travon Henderson, and then the double spend at Puka and
- 22:23Speaker 2: a Monra. So I think it's a really really sharp
- 22:24Speaker 2: building in general. And congratulations to him or her here
- 22:29Speaker 2: who took down.
- 22:30Speaker 1: The MILLI so and eighty eight lineups had the Lawrence
- 22:35Speaker 1: etn just of you know, clarity on that out of
- 22:37Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven thousand, so I wanted to
- 22:40Speaker 1: see that. But yeah, going back to this one, like
- 22:42Speaker 1: you said, a great, great lineup overall, and obviously you
- 22:44Speaker 1: know the setup of it was one thing, but this
- 22:46Speaker 1: just goes back to the same thing we always talk about,
- 22:48Speaker 1: like again, yes you got the lower owned pivots and whatnot.
- 22:51Speaker 1: But just going back to that fifty five point game, Oh,
- 22:54Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be on it. Oh, you know, that's just
- 22:56Speaker 1: you got to think about there's thirteen games like blah
- 22:58Speaker 1: blah blah, like three golf, thirteen and fifteen on Amanra
- 23:03Speaker 1: and jameson Williams. You know, seven on Kolby Parkinson. Yeah,
- 23:07Speaker 1: Phukah's gonna be owned. We know that. How do we
- 23:09Speaker 1: get different with him? Play four other guys from the
- 23:11Speaker 1: same gay game and make sure that you've got it
- 23:13Speaker 1: set up where you could still fit some ceiling type
- 23:16Speaker 1: options in there with Swift and Henderson, and those are
- 23:19Speaker 1: kind of protective pieces because if you're not going to
- 23:22Speaker 1: if you're going to that game stack and you were
- 23:23Speaker 1: worried that this was gonna be ten, this was gonna
- 23:26Speaker 1: be fifteen, but this was gonna be eighteen, and you
- 23:29Speaker 1: thought this might be eight or nine or whatever you
- 23:30Speaker 1: were thinking out there, then maybe that's why you don't
- 23:33Speaker 1: go to Woody Marx or to Jakoori Krofsky Merrit with
- 23:36Speaker 1: Bill there or anything like that. You try and look
- 23:37Speaker 1: at it from a different perspective, but you're already getting
- 23:40Speaker 1: different in enough places just the way it shook out,
- 23:42Speaker 1: So I think just looking at it from that perspective,
- 23:44Speaker 1: it certainly makes it a more unique setup. So I'm
- 23:49Speaker 1: fine with that. I like to build overall. Obviously, mixing
- 23:51Speaker 1: the flex positions in and out is one thing, but overall,
- 23:54Speaker 1: they had the same kind of thought process in place,
- 23:56Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people too, when they're
- 23:57Speaker 1: setting up game stacks. I didn't look at this here.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Sixty five lineups, right, which is interesting, but you know,
- 24:04Speaker 1: maybe by hand for some of them, or I don't
- 24:06Speaker 1: know exactly how that happens, but I guess, go ahead.
- 24:09Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's interesting here is like, like I talked
- 24:11Speaker 2: about the Parkinson and Nikua, So Parkinson and Nakua together, right,
- 24:16Speaker 2: Fred and fifty three lineups, of which isn't a ton right,
- 24:19Speaker 2: But of those five thousand, thirty three hundred of them
- 24:22Speaker 2: played Matthew Stafford guests, how many played James or Jared
- 24:27Speaker 2: Goff On the other side with those two it was
- 24:29Speaker 2: zero point two four percent, like.
- 24:31Speaker 3: Three hundred lineups.
- 24:32Speaker 2: So you left three thousand lineups in the dust in
- 24:35Speaker 2: that game just by flipping the quarterback, and then when
- 24:37Speaker 2: you start adding the other pieces, that's how you get different.
- 24:40Speaker 2: So when people say, oh, it's the chalk and all
- 24:43Speaker 2: the chalk got there, I mean you knew going in
- 24:45Speaker 2: it was hard to fit that game because of the
- 24:46Speaker 2: price points, right, and that's why you had to land
- 24:49Speaker 2: on a guy like Sinat Right. You had had to
- 24:51Speaker 2: avoid the Jamar Chase the whole Baltimore Cincinnati game, which
- 24:56Speaker 2: was a definitely big talking point from the Morning Slate.
- 24:59Speaker 2: You had to avoid that spot, right, You had to
- 25:00Speaker 2: avoid the ego spot, right, you had to avoid the Washington,
- 25:03Speaker 2: a giant spot that a lot of people wanted to play, right.
- 25:05Speaker 2: So you still had to make sacrifices to get that game,
- 25:09Speaker 2: and you knew it.
- 25:11Speaker 3: It was pretty tough, especially for handbuilders to go in.
- 25:13Speaker 2: And that's why you saw a lot of skinny stacks
- 25:15Speaker 2: or mini stacks right, one here and one on the
- 25:17Speaker 2: other side from that game because of the price points.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean made a good point here, like this is
- 25:21Speaker 1: definitely what happened, but you have to Again, that's why
- 25:23Speaker 1: I always say it's not really about the plays as
- 25:24Speaker 1: much as think about what the field is doing. In
- 25:26Speaker 1: the end. It's always the result of the plays that
- 25:28Speaker 1: we're looking at it like that's the winning lineup was
- 25:30Speaker 1: made up of those picks and plays. But the process
- 25:32Speaker 1: of it all is if you're especially if you're handbuilding
- 25:34Speaker 1: or playing a single entry or something along those lines.
- 25:37Speaker 1: It's like if you know that it's going to be
- 25:38Speaker 1: difficult for everybody else to get to but you know
- 25:40Speaker 1: the game has a fifty five point total that's gone
- 25:42Speaker 1: up and you think this is a good spot. You
- 25:44Speaker 1: have to find a way to make it work. Doesn't
- 25:46Speaker 1: mean you'll land on the version that is correct. I'm
- 25:48Speaker 1: just saying the thought process of if it's hard for
- 25:51Speaker 1: other people, if it's hard for me, that means it's
- 25:53Speaker 1: hard for other people. How can I find my way
- 25:55Speaker 1: around that? And what can I look for and see
- 25:58Speaker 1: that right? So and and a lot of correlation to it.
- 26:01Speaker 1: So you know, it's a good Bill besides Sonnat and
- 26:02Speaker 1: the flex Henderson in a great matchup versus Bill's run defense.
- 26:05Speaker 1: But it's hard to play one of those pats on
- 26:06Speaker 1: a thirteen gamer. Same thing gotta be, you know, be
- 26:09Speaker 1: comfortable being uncomfortable. I played Swift in my My Millionmaker run.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Like we talked about Alex talked about it a ton
- 26:15Speaker 1: he being a former well being a Philly Eagles guy,
- 26:18Speaker 1: and Swift being a former Eagle, he knew a lot
- 26:20Speaker 1: about him and talked about We talked about how if
- 26:22Speaker 1: they let Tony Pollard run all over them the week before,
- 26:25Speaker 1: maybe he could do it again. Maybe Ben Johnson can
- 26:28Speaker 1: figure it out with Swift, And the props were still there.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Like again, if you look at the books and things
- 26:31Speaker 1: like that, it was definitely leaned heavier to one side
- 26:34Speaker 1: than the other. It's just there was always a risk
- 26:35Speaker 1: and young guy had his chances too. But you gotta
- 26:38Speaker 1: be willing to take on those risks to be able
- 26:39Speaker 1: to get these big prizes. So you know, it's very
- 26:42Speaker 1: it's very rare that you'd be like, Wow, they just
- 26:44Speaker 1: played all the best plays and they won, and they
- 26:46Speaker 1: won outright and for all the money. It's like, yeah,
- 26:48Speaker 1: you're gonna have to take on some of that stuff
- 26:50Speaker 1: and take a shot at it that way. So I
- 26:53Speaker 1: was trying to see that stun. I mean, there was
- 26:55Speaker 1: a ton of REGs up top that's done a shady
- 26:59Speaker 1: Who else did I see if their ac Karma Sports
- 27:01Speaker 1: won the three thirty three yesterday, Lorejo won two, three, like,
- 27:04Speaker 1: these are all really good players if you if you
- 27:06Speaker 1: follow the follow around, there's others up here too, just
- 27:08Speaker 1: noting the ones I see. But yeah, that Stunna had
- 27:11Speaker 1: a Jared goff Amenrod Jamison Williams no run back. Went
- 27:15Speaker 1: with two Chicago pieces in Loveland and Swift, which I
- 27:18Speaker 1: think is fine, especially with no Rome Is there Sutton
- 27:22Speaker 1: Cook like completely random there, but just like the the
- 27:25Speaker 1: one off set lower ownership and then Kansas City Defense
- 27:27Speaker 1: with Dallas Goddard and Dallas Goddard had a really good
- 27:30Speaker 1: day as well, so that that was a nice run
- 27:31Speaker 1: in it. But again a completely different build. What did
- 27:34Speaker 1: Jerry Matt say? Said? I finished in fifty fifth, so
- 27:39Speaker 1: this build was jed just he's here. I think this
- 27:41Speaker 1: is a good idea, you know, bragg bragging coming off
- 27:43Speaker 1: a big win. So he's talking that thing today. He's
- 27:45Speaker 1: got a little pep in his step, says my fifty
- 27:48Speaker 1: fifth place in the MIDDLEE was sharper build. Haha. Let's see,
- 27:51Speaker 1: he's got Jared goff amenros so similar there. He's got
- 27:56Speaker 1: Kyron with Parkinson, He's got Terry McClure in Henderson Jacksonville
- 28:02Speaker 1: d and Kinkaid across from Henderson in this one, Aids,
- 28:07Speaker 1: what do you think of this build? Pretty pretty nice?
- 28:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a I think it's definitely a
- 28:11Speaker 3: nice setup. Right.
- 28:12Speaker 2: You kind of flipped the running backs right and avoided
- 28:14Speaker 2: the five K range but didn't go all the way
- 28:16Speaker 2: up to the top to Christian McCaffrey Jamier Gibbs right,
- 28:19Speaker 2: and then in ten taking the ceiling like you talked
- 28:21Speaker 2: about with Gibbs, putting it to a manra and then
- 28:25Speaker 2: just landing on kind of the the midchair ride receivers
- 28:28Speaker 2: right instead of in this game right, most people were
- 28:31Speaker 2: doing Puka or DeVante.
- 28:35Speaker 3: I would assume in ability in a setup like this.
- 28:37Speaker 2: So you flipped it and said, hey, maybe it's a
- 28:39Speaker 2: Kirene day, which it definitely was underground, which was tilting
- 28:42Speaker 2: for you and I and know, but obviously it helped
- 28:44Speaker 2: help helped Jerry here get some some cheese and hopefully
- 28:47Speaker 2: he had this in some other spots where he would
- 28:49Speaker 2: have probably won a lot of other.
- 28:51Speaker 3: Tournaments with two hundred and fourteen. I know that, and single.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Like he won twenty k yesterday he won first and
- 28:56Speaker 1: whatever he played. Maybe yeah, the only no you know
- 28:59Speaker 1: this was separate, I think, but just a note he
- 29:01Speaker 1: had a really good day overall.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So overall I think is a really sharp build.
- 29:05Speaker 2: And most people that were playing Jacksonville Defense were probably
- 29:09Speaker 2: playing Travis Etn So you did he did kind of
- 29:12Speaker 2: a double flip there with three hundred dollars more for
- 29:14Speaker 2: Kyra and Williams, but still playing all the way up
- 29:17Speaker 2: to Jacksonville Defense when most were playing Houston, most were
- 29:20Speaker 2: playing the drawn a blank with the other guys up
- 29:25Speaker 2: up top of the Seahawks the Texans. So you kind
- 29:28Speaker 2: of did that. And again, I think it's a really
- 29:30Speaker 2: sharp building in general, and I like the Trevon Henderson
- 29:33Speaker 2: Daltoncaid little little mini stack there. Kincaid's been heavily involved,
- 29:38Speaker 2: just didn't work out, and uh, that's.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Just the way the cookie cumbles sometimes.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also would say this like, well, technically, yes,
- 29:45Speaker 1: I don't actually consider it like that because he says
- 29:48Speaker 1: it's tired me to one off a Buffalo player, But
- 29:50Speaker 1: it's he's it's a secondary stack. So it's not just
- 29:53Speaker 1: throwing Dalton kin Cad in there and saying like hopefully
- 29:55Speaker 1: I get Dalton Kinkaid points. It's saying if Henderson does
- 29:58Speaker 1: his job on the ground and rushes and ever and
- 30:00Speaker 1: again the baked into projections. But my point being, the
- 30:02Speaker 1: thought process of the secondary stack a little bit different
- 30:05Speaker 1: to me than the thought process of a one off
- 30:08Speaker 1: of like, you know, using Mitch Tinsley as a one off,
- 30:11Speaker 1: if it helped you, great, but probably not a good
- 30:12Speaker 1: idea because typically if he actually has a game that's
- 30:15Speaker 1: needed when there's thirteen games and potentially four wide receivers
- 30:18Speaker 1: in every lineup, then for me it would be, you know,
- 30:21Speaker 1: something where I'd expected to be, something that helps burrow
- 30:24Speaker 1: more or makes it boosts up that game to make
- 30:26Speaker 1: it more of a back and forth. So it's also.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Different too, right, you knew in that range people were
- 30:31Speaker 2: either going up to Kittle or spinning down to likely
- 30:35Speaker 2: Andrews or obviously Fannin. Right, So five hundred dollars more
- 30:38Speaker 2: than Fanin, I think is also an interesting place. So
- 30:41Speaker 2: it's not a it's not a result of the play
- 30:45Speaker 2: Dalton k and Kate himself. It's a result of the
- 30:48Speaker 2: what it does for the roster construction, right, Trayvon Henderson
- 30:52Speaker 2: more expensive than what he marks, which most people playing
- 30:55Speaker 2: what he marks probably had Harrol Fannin in there as well.
- 30:57Speaker 2: So now you're doing a double leverage situation where you're
- 30:59Speaker 2: going up to Travion Henderson and also up to Dalton
- 31:03Speaker 2: Kincaid and avoiding two of those high priced receivers and
- 31:06Speaker 2: going more in the mid tier with a guy like
- 31:08Speaker 2: Jameson Williams Terry McLaurin and using a double spend down
- 31:11Speaker 2: tight end or using to spend down tight end in
- 31:14Speaker 2: a way different than what the field was going into
- 31:16Speaker 2: the slate.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where he spends the money different,
- 31:21Speaker 1: I guess you know. Obviously he was in on this
- 31:23Speaker 1: game stack regardless, but not not even results oriented like obviously.
- 31:27Speaker 1: I think the thing about Williams funny enough, like people
- 31:29Speaker 1: are so worried about like Swift and a young guy
- 31:31Speaker 1: and Henderson and all these other guys. It's like, I'm
- 31:34Speaker 1: all worried about Williams with Corman, with Buka and with
- 31:37Speaker 1: Adams and with Parkinson and with everything. At least he
- 31:39Speaker 1: put it into a game stack. So I like that,
- 31:41Speaker 1: But I think it would have been fine to have
- 31:43Speaker 1: like Etn with his defense and then if there's a
- 31:46Speaker 1: place to spend that three hundred, so be it if not,
- 31:49Speaker 1: then you know, move on. But I'm just saying like,
- 31:51Speaker 1: that's that's the kind of process thing that I'll be
- 31:53Speaker 1: thinking about as well. But yeah, I like the build overall.
- 31:55Speaker 1: Definitely a great lineup for Jerry and then obviously a
- 31:58Speaker 1: great day overall. Jerry matt he ate his user name.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Of course I don't put his no no governments not
- 32:03Speaker 1: put it out there, but yeah, just just looking at it.
- 32:04Speaker 1: So he said, Naid's nailed it on the double tight
- 32:07Speaker 1: end to pay up to Kinkaid for the roster. Yeah,
- 32:11Speaker 1: I guess like, again this is nitpicky, but I like,
- 32:13Speaker 1: I want I want Kittle and it's not even resultory.
- 32:16Speaker 1: It again, like you have no CMC. I want Kittle
- 32:18Speaker 1: if you're spending that money more than I want Kingkaid.
- 32:21Speaker 1: And it'll sound resultory because he did better.
- 32:23Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like, really, yeah, in this setup
- 32:27Speaker 2: to your point, right, because you knew Christian McCaffrey was
- 32:30Speaker 2: pretty much the Stones going into the slay, or at
- 32:32Speaker 2: least projected why the Stones, and then the report came
- 32:34Speaker 2: out that he was going to be a full go.
- 32:36Speaker 2: So most of my teams if I didn't have McCaffrey,
- 32:39Speaker 2: which I had McCaffrey on a lot of my teams.
- 32:40Speaker 3: I had a piece from San Francisco.
- 32:42Speaker 2: So in this setup, instead of Terry McLaurin, I would
- 32:45Speaker 2: have probably wanted Juwan Jennings or Ricky Piersoll if you
- 32:48Speaker 2: were going with the Dalton Kincaid secondary stack with Henderson,
- 32:51Speaker 2: to at least get a piece that. Hey, if McCaffrey
- 32:53Speaker 2: isn't going there and you're using the mid tier running
- 32:55Speaker 2: back build with Kyron and Trayvion, well why is it
- 32:59Speaker 2: McCaffrey there. It's probably because someone from San Francisco is
- 33:03Speaker 2: catching the touchdowns and they couldn't have.
- 33:06Speaker 3: But in that piece where you already.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Know Terry McLaurin is going to be a very popular
- 33:10Speaker 2: play in that very popular game going in yesterday from
- 33:13Speaker 2: the afternoon the morning window, I would have probably did
- 33:17Speaker 2: that differently and just avoided that game completely as instead
- 33:19Speaker 2: of playing the chalkiest play of that game as a
- 33:22Speaker 2: one off, which definitely can work.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Right, Terry McLaurin still had a fine day.
- 33:25Speaker 2: It's not about the result, It's about the overall roster construction, right,
- 33:29Speaker 2: So if you were truly set on Kincaid instead of Kiddle,
- 33:32Speaker 2: I would have still took into account that San Fran
- 33:34Speaker 2: game with their thirty implied team total at home against
- 33:37Speaker 2: Tennessee who can't stop a nosebleed, and probably got to
- 33:41Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll or Juwan Jennings in that same price point
- 33:44Speaker 2: there and avoid a lot more chalk.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the interesting thing for me, Like
- 33:50Speaker 1: I definitely would have looked at that like, yeah, some
- 33:52Speaker 1: of these things too, like people are pulling up like
- 33:55Speaker 1: I wanted to pull one more opp So this is
- 33:56Speaker 1: definitely true as well. We talked about these yesterday that
- 33:58Speaker 1: some of the numbers would be skewed. A huge late
- 34:01Speaker 1: swap slate in general as a whole, with five games
- 34:03Speaker 1: and big games in the afternoon with decisions to be
- 34:06Speaker 1: made on whether it was on JSN, Gibbs, amanra CMC
- 34:10Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And obviously when you
- 34:12Speaker 1: had Woody Marx and the Bengals raven stuff bust in
- 34:15Speaker 1: the morning, people definitely late swapped, like there was no
- 34:18Speaker 1: way Gibbs was actually gonna be twelve percent or whatever
- 34:21Speaker 1: he is, a lot of people had to have moved
- 34:23Speaker 1: off Gibbs versus where they were at originally, so you know,
- 34:26Speaker 1: it's not like it's gonna be the masses, but I'm
- 34:28Speaker 1: saying enough people did there was like I just don't
- 34:30Speaker 1: see any world Gibbs was twelve percent. He was way
- 34:32Speaker 1: higher than that around the industry going into that, but
- 34:34Speaker 1: definitely true on that factor. Yeah, I think this the
- 34:39Speaker 1: other thing, like James Cook, it's a product of like
- 34:42Speaker 1: who played him and who didn't and whatever like that
- 34:44Speaker 1: why he doesn't show up as much. But I think
- 34:46Speaker 1: he was two point six percent for good reason, Like
- 34:48Speaker 1: he literally needed to get all of this number to
- 34:51Speaker 1: even have a chance, and he did. And that's if
- 34:54Speaker 1: some bucks and et cetera good for him. I'm just saying,
- 34:56Speaker 1: like at eight grand, everyone freaking out. It's like no
- 34:58Speaker 1: one even played the guy. He didn't have to freak
- 35:00Speaker 1: out about James Cook. And in the end, he actually
- 35:02Speaker 1: still wasn't on the Millionmaker Winner. It's not here or there,
- 35:06Speaker 1: but he wasn't on the Millionmaker Winner. He wasn't on
- 35:09Speaker 1: the optimal like eight thousand dollars. You still got to
- 35:11Speaker 1: do a lot. So like the thirty four was every
- 35:13Speaker 1: bit of it helped some, but I'm just saying it
- 35:16Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily needed by any means when you get some
- 35:18Speaker 1: of these sixty five hundred dollars guys that are going
- 35:21Speaker 1: off for similar scores. So let me see here, this
- 35:26Speaker 1: is in the Mastermind program, Stephen, Like, this is what
- 35:29Speaker 1: Jerry's talking about the mentorship program. If you're not a
- 35:31Speaker 1: member of DFS Mastermind, you can't get in to the
- 35:33Speaker 1: mentorship program. It's like a one step one and that's why.
- 35:36Speaker 1: So just a note on that there was another one here.
- 35:39Speaker 1: People saying, like, you know, lineup and second could have
- 35:41Speaker 1: won by playing this defense. That's a good segue. I guess, like,
- 35:45Speaker 1: I'll pull this up now. I showed it off earlier Neads.
- 35:47Speaker 1: But this was my third in the FanDuel Fan Championship.
- 35:52Speaker 1: You actually I had ten lineups in there for twenty
- 35:54Speaker 1: five hundred, and I had three of them were tickets,
- 35:56Speaker 1: so seven of my own. And then it got me
- 35:58Speaker 1: to fifty k. I played the Giants defense and I
- 36:02Speaker 1: had the hundred bucks left to get to the Ravens
- 36:04Speaker 1: defense for the full millie. But it's not what I
- 36:07Speaker 1: was getting to like, I played Tracy with them and
- 36:09Speaker 1: it was against you off. I'm not everyone like you
- 36:11Speaker 1: got to know the sites to this. Another thing, the
- 36:13Speaker 1: sites are so different in a lot for a lot
- 36:16Speaker 1: of reasons. So like on Banduel, Mariota and Bill and
- 36:19Speaker 1: all those guys were super popular. By the end of
- 36:22Speaker 1: you know, getting the News with Chris Rodriguez and all
- 36:24Speaker 1: that stuff, Mariota was already popular. McLaurin was dirt cheap
- 36:28Speaker 1: over there, and he had himself a really good game.
- 36:29Speaker 1: But just a note when you already know that stuff,
- 36:32Speaker 1: and then there's double entendres of I kept saying this.
- 36:34Speaker 1: I said it on the show one Dale Robinson was
- 36:37Speaker 1: almost free over there. It was the same price as
- 36:39Speaker 1: his DraftKings price. So when all of those factors run together,
- 36:44Speaker 1: that's how I land on Tracy, who was the same
- 36:46Speaker 1: price as Robinson, but up there and giants d together
- 36:50Speaker 1: and left the hundred bucks. I could have been on Ravens.
- 36:53Speaker 1: I was on them in other lineups at thirty four hundred.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Our projections like them one point more. But for me
- 36:57Speaker 1: in this line of this just made more sense. What
- 37:00Speaker 1: I really wanted was to leverage the Gibbs and CMCs,
- 37:03Speaker 1: and that's where this lineup gets built from. So it's
- 37:05Speaker 1: quite simple. Goff amanro Saint Brown Jamison Williams and Pooka
- 37:11Speaker 1: Kittle because I'm not playing CMC. I talked about the
- 37:14Speaker 1: Tracy and the Giants thing, and then you sort of
- 37:17Speaker 1: see what it lands on. I had been talked in,
- 37:19Speaker 1: so Hamwich had swift in his slate plan with a
- 37:22Speaker 1: good right up there, and then Blickel had talked me
- 37:26Speaker 1: into him on leverage lane of like a guy that
- 37:28Speaker 1: you can use if you need the salary savings, and
- 37:30Speaker 1: on FanDuel a site where it's touchdown dependent. And by
- 37:32Speaker 1: the way, he dis missed the bonus as well. Kittle
- 37:35Speaker 1: dropped a fifteen yard pass at the end that was
- 37:37Speaker 1: for the bonus, like there was more money left on
- 37:39Speaker 1: the table. The winner had the Parkinson touchdown, which I
- 37:41Speaker 1: wish didn't count all these other factors and more of
- 37:44Speaker 1: how it could have been an even better day. But
- 37:46Speaker 1: the guy in front of me had just goff Amanra
- 37:49Speaker 1: and JMO. I had Pooka Kittle and Pollard still going,
- 37:54Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in third with all that going, with
- 37:56Speaker 1: like five minutes left in the third quarter. When Pollard
- 37:59Speaker 1: scores that touchdown, and then Pollard did come back and
- 38:01Speaker 1: get the bonus, it got me up a little closer,
- 38:03Speaker 1: but yeah, it could have been a much better day.
- 38:05Speaker 1: But this is how this build gets built. Obviously it's
- 38:06Speaker 1: the secondary stack with Pollard and Kittle, but when you
- 38:10Speaker 1: need these value running backs and you're leveraging Bill, it's
- 38:14Speaker 1: kind of like you just land where you land. But
- 38:15Speaker 1: as you guys can see, the lineup was strictly built
- 38:18Speaker 1: out of my ten lineups. I talk about this a
- 38:20Speaker 1: ton in DFS Mastermind about portfolio management and portfolio manipulation.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I played Gibbs, I played CMC. When I'm not playing them,
- 38:30Speaker 1: what am I doing? I'm still thinking Detroit and the
- 38:33Speaker 1: Rams game is going to be pretty damn good. So
- 38:35Speaker 1: how do I make it work? I play the passing
- 38:37Speaker 1: stack in that game, and then I play Kittle and
- 38:40Speaker 1: then see how it starts to fill out from there.
- 38:42Speaker 1: Another big way on FanDuel, Like I said, I love
- 38:44Speaker 1: when you find these spots. It's almost needs like the
- 38:47Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor when remember Breece Hall was Chalk and you
- 38:51Speaker 1: could play Taylor Metchi and Mitchell and then you could
- 38:54Speaker 1: flip Breeze and double it up and get Bijon on
- 38:57Speaker 1: the other side to completely flip use the cheap pass
- 38:59Speaker 1: catchers to get that well, Tracy was the same price
- 39:02Speaker 1: as a very popular Robinson for that team, and Mariota
- 39:06Speaker 1: and Bill were very popular. I could double that up.
- 39:09Speaker 1: And what do you think was in the Mariota Bill lineups?
- 39:11Speaker 1: Was the secondary stack of Robinson or the stack of
- 39:14Speaker 1: the game with Mariota, mcclaurin and Robinson. And I was
- 39:18Speaker 1: able to flip that this way. It didn't fully work.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Giants had a scoop at the end too, just no
- 39:22Speaker 1: score still about the twenty yard line. That was another
- 39:25Speaker 1: close call. But yeah, this is the lineup. Needs any
- 39:27Speaker 1: thoughts from your end there, I just you know, run
- 39:29Speaker 1: through it. But I think this is a lot of
- 39:31Speaker 1: the thoughts we had throughout the week, and then obviously
- 39:33Speaker 1: leverage lane just putting some of the final touches on it.
- 39:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I think really sharp Billed obviously would by no surprise, right,
- 39:39Speaker 2: But the I think the way you sliced into George Kittle,
- 39:43Speaker 2: you knew he was projected to be the chalkiest tight
- 39:45Speaker 2: end going in because of the site difference, right when
- 39:48Speaker 2: people couldn't get up to a guy like Christian McCaffrey
- 39:52Speaker 2: all the way up at nine K, which the pricing
- 39:54Speaker 2: is different I know, you get more money over there, right,
- 39:57Speaker 2: you get the sixty k instead of the fifty K.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Prices also reflected in a lot of plays right as well.
- 40:03Speaker 2: So slicing into George Kiddle with Tony Pollard is part
- 40:09Speaker 2: of a correlated piece.
- 40:10Speaker 3: But not only that.
- 40:10Speaker 2: It's not just the slicing dice there, it's also Tony
- 40:13Speaker 2: Pollard pivot off of what he marks for cheaper, pivot
- 40:16Speaker 2: off the other guys that are in that five K
- 40:18Speaker 2: range JCM right as well, Kenneth Walker, all of these
- 40:23Speaker 2: guys right that that were way higher owned, and you
- 40:26Speaker 2: used it as a way that was correlated in there.
- 40:28Speaker 2: And he's still involved, right, still can be a pass
- 40:31Speaker 2: catcher and still can be.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Involved in that offense.
- 40:35Speaker 2: I mean, the San Francisco offense is really good, but
- 40:38Speaker 2: their defense has not been good anyways, And what if
- 40:41Speaker 2: they just moved the ball right and he kind of
- 40:43Speaker 2: falls in it falls in the box. So I think
- 40:44Speaker 2: this is a really sharp build in general, and it
- 40:46Speaker 2: leveraged a lot of the Chalky's plays on a different
- 40:49Speaker 2: site which is much different than what DraftKings. Right, what
- 40:52Speaker 2: he marks came in at like fifty or fifty four
- 40:55Speaker 2: percent in that contest, right, Wandel Robinson almost forty percent,
- 40:58Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey the third highest player on the slate to
- 41:01Speaker 2: my point, Right, So you did only just leverage McCaffrey
- 41:04Speaker 2: with the Tony Pollard on the other side, but you
- 41:07Speaker 2: also leveraged him with George Kittle, who was still popular,
- 41:10Speaker 2: but then together you sliced it with the Pollards.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Yeah, McCaffrey was almost forty percent in this though, like
- 41:15Speaker 1: nine k on fandle you could afford him easily. So
- 41:17Speaker 1: Kittle was like twenty one and McCaffrey was thirty six
- 41:20Speaker 1: or something. So it's like there was that point the
- 41:23Speaker 1: Pollard cutting into the other side is where it's like, Okay,
- 41:26Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I did I expect him to
- 41:27Speaker 1: get that. No, but if there was a way to
- 41:29Speaker 1: push this game and get a back and forth going,
- 41:31Speaker 1: that would be the way to do it. And he's
- 41:32Speaker 1: kind of the final spot that just matched it up.
- 41:35Speaker 1: And then Kyle asked like, yeah, so I had ten lineups.
- 41:39Speaker 1: I had Burrow lineup, I had a Darnald lineup. I
- 41:42Speaker 1: had Tinsley in three lineups. I had Yoshi vas in
- 41:46Speaker 1: another lineup as a one off. I had Giseki in
- 41:49Speaker 1: another lineup as a one off, I had Derek Henry
- 41:52Speaker 1: and Ze Flowers in the portfolio, and there was no
- 41:54Speaker 1: late swap to this one required, Like you're not swapping
- 41:58Speaker 1: off when you've got pretty much everything got there, Like
- 42:01Speaker 1: look at what my morning looked like. Swift twenty two,
- 42:04Speaker 1: fire flame emoji Tracy, you know twenty three. It sucked
- 42:08Speaker 1: that the Giants didn't get there, But then I've got
- 42:10Speaker 1: goff Aman, Rod Jamo, Puka Kittle and just happened to
- 42:14Speaker 1: land on Pollard. So I'm not I'm not swapping anything
- 42:17Speaker 1: at that point. I just left it as is and
- 42:19Speaker 1: that with that lineup was good to roll. So yeah,
- 42:21Speaker 1: that was the outcome. That was the lineup. Fifty K
- 42:24Speaker 1: for third, not bad. Another good run at the Milli Maker.
- 42:27Speaker 1: But let's look at somebody else who had a really
- 42:29Speaker 1: good run, who's on a really good run and one
- 42:31Speaker 1: of the best players out there going of all time.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Maybe this guy need lunch money. My man, Eric just
- 42:36Speaker 1: absolutely crushed it at the Fantasy Football World Championship. I
- 42:39Speaker 1: don't have the other one up here. It was for
- 42:41Speaker 1: whatever reason, it wouldn't load make me log in on
- 42:43Speaker 1: my desktop here, but anyway, the afternoon only he also
- 42:48Speaker 1: finished second for like another three hundred K. This was
- 42:50Speaker 1: two point five, and then you get to play all
- 42:52Speaker 1: your entries in the afternoon only bonus game as well.
- 42:55Speaker 1: But just the who's who at the top of the leaderboard,
- 42:57Speaker 1: VP is the man you as the man, Peter Gibbons,
- 42:59Speaker 1: all these guys just incredible. And this was his lineup,
- 43:03Speaker 1: the two point five million dollar lineup. Mades. Let's break
- 43:05Speaker 1: this one down. So it was a Lawrence ETN junior.
- 43:09Speaker 1: It had Woody Marx, it had Myers by the way
- 43:12Speaker 1: in with that as well, and then it had Amanra Chase,
- 43:16Speaker 1: THEO Johnson double tight end with Barner and the Eagles defense.
- 43:21Speaker 1: And there's no late swap allowed at the Fantasy Football
- 43:24Speaker 1: World Championship, so obviously having more entries is quite helpful.
- 43:27Speaker 1: You see the eight and brackets up top, because you
- 43:28Speaker 1: can just play some of these spots and hope to
- 43:30Speaker 1: get it right. But this was a really sharp build,
- 43:33Speaker 1: not only two percent of the field on Lawrence and
- 43:36Speaker 1: two point five on Myers, and once you kind of
- 43:38Speaker 1: have those guys into your stack, you can just go
- 43:41Speaker 1: wherever you want after that. And it's not like he
- 43:43Speaker 1: went way off the board. But you know, having Woody
- 43:45Speaker 1: Marx was fine. Having Chase was fine. Not being on
- 43:49Speaker 1: Gibbs or CMC or any of those guys. He was
- 43:50Speaker 1: already different there. So what's your thoughts on this lineup
- 43:53Speaker 1: from Eric? This is the winning two point five million
- 43:55Speaker 1: dollar lineup up top there?
- 43:58Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's really sharp, no surprise, right,
- 44:01Speaker 2: one of the best players in the world there, but
- 44:04Speaker 2: slice it. So you played Woody Marx, but Woody Marks
- 44:08Speaker 2: got played a lot, I would assume in this contest
- 44:10Speaker 2: as well with c J.
- 44:11Speaker 3: Stroud. With c J Stroud, so he was sixty six percent,
- 44:14Speaker 3: I'm sure c J. Stroud. I mean c J.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Stroud came in at roughly seven eight percent in the
- 44:19Speaker 2: Millie in this contest with two hundred people, I'm assuming
- 44:23Speaker 2: c J. Stroud was probably the most popular quarterback or
- 44:25Speaker 2: right there with a guy like Jackson Dart. So you're
- 44:28Speaker 2: double leveraging down right with a guy like Trevor Lawrence
- 44:31Speaker 2: as a way to also slice and dice into Travis
- 44:34Speaker 2: etn who was one of the chalkiest running backs on
- 44:37Speaker 2: the slate for a good reason yesterday. But not only that.
- 44:40Speaker 2: Then you're going to a guy like Jacobe Myers. He's
- 44:42Speaker 2: also leveraging all all the wide receiver plays, the mid
- 44:46Speaker 2: tier wide receiver plays that people were getting to if
- 44:50Speaker 2: they were getting to any of them in that and
- 44:53Speaker 2: you're using it as kind of you're just a betting
- 44:55Speaker 2: on this offense, right, Etn could get him down there,
- 44:58Speaker 2: or it could be Trevor Lawrence and Jacoby Myers, and
- 45:01Speaker 2: then it's Etn running in the touchdowns. Well, obviously it
- 45:04Speaker 2: was a totally different way than it happened, but that's
- 45:06Speaker 2: just the nature of the result. But the process in
- 45:09Speaker 2: the thought process going in is you're betting on Jacksonville
- 45:12Speaker 2: to hit their team total. They're fourteen and a half
- 45:14Speaker 2: or thirteen and a half point favorites at home against
- 45:16Speaker 2: the Jets defense who can't stop anyone. So I like
- 45:19Speaker 2: that a lot, But it's also leveraging the Stroud. It's
- 45:21Speaker 2: also leveraging to Jackson Dart And you're completely when you're
- 45:25Speaker 2: doing that. In this setup, right, you're using THEO Johnson,
- 45:29Speaker 2: which most when they're using THEO Johnson four hundred dollars cheaper,
- 45:32Speaker 2: are playing Jackson Dart, right, So you're kind of double
- 45:36Speaker 2: doubling down there, and then you're playing a J Barner
- 45:39Speaker 2: because you're not getting up to JSN right, you're playing
- 45:42Speaker 2: ASB and Jamar Chase instead of in that game, you're
- 45:46Speaker 2: instead of the JSN right. But not only that, you're
- 45:50Speaker 2: playing Barner over a guy like Kenneth Walker right, who
- 45:54Speaker 2: you could have probably tried to fit into to the flax,
- 45:56Speaker 2: who a lot of people want to play. And then
- 45:58Speaker 2: up at the top range, most people are playing Houston
- 46:01Speaker 2: defense with what he marks. So you're going to the Eagles,
- 46:05Speaker 2: which is two hundred dollars more because you have the
- 46:08Speaker 2: salary there in a spot against Gino Smith right, who
- 46:12Speaker 2: leads the leagues in interceptions literally gives free sacks to
- 46:16Speaker 2: the other defense.
- 46:17Speaker 3: So overall, really sharp building.
- 46:19Speaker 2: The way you he leveraged right, how the typical roster
- 46:23Speaker 2: construction was going to happen in a contest with two
- 46:26Speaker 2: hundred entries when you know the chalk is a lot
- 46:29Speaker 2: chalkier than in normal contest that people are playing in,
- 46:32Speaker 2: and you just need to be different in slight spots
- 46:36Speaker 2: on the way you put all the pieces together.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Yeah, another one too is like a lot of people
- 46:39Speaker 1: playing ETN would have been playing it with the thirty
- 46:42Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars Jags, and obviously you don't. I mean,
- 46:45Speaker 1: you could have put the Jags in here too. I
- 46:46Speaker 1: don't know if you had the hundred bucks left, but
- 46:47Speaker 1: just might know if you could have found a way.
- 46:49Speaker 1: My point is more going to the Eagles for the
- 46:51Speaker 1: hundred bucks less. That's differentiating, like your ETN lineups, not
- 46:54Speaker 1: only with the Trevor Lawrence play, but with also the defense.
- 46:57Speaker 1: That's just a one hundred bucks less. There. You called
- 46:59Speaker 1: the Barner versus versus the Walker, like all those guys
- 47:03Speaker 1: had at least somewhat some ownership. And when you do
- 47:06Speaker 1: it that way, and then the other thing I like
- 47:08Speaker 1: is when you're avoiding by pure nature of the slate,
- 47:12Speaker 1: like there's just so many places you can go. But
- 47:14Speaker 1: when you're not on the San Francisco forty nine ers,
- 47:17Speaker 1: big home team total, maybe you try out the Jags.
- 47:20Speaker 1: And I didn't look at all as lineups. I'm sure
- 47:22Speaker 1: there probably is a party or maybe there's something in
- 47:23Speaker 1: there with CMC or whatever amongst his ten lineups, but
- 47:26Speaker 1: just noting it is in a lineup. Like something you
- 47:28Speaker 1: always say to me is like, well, I feel like
- 47:30Speaker 1: I'm missing out when I'm not on the I have
- 47:32Speaker 1: no forty nine ers in my lineup, or I have
- 47:34Speaker 1: very little of this game. It's like you want to
- 47:37Speaker 1: go somewhere else that you think you could see the
- 47:39Speaker 1: points happening and pick them up. And in this case,
- 47:41Speaker 1: the Jags did have if I recall correct that, I
- 47:43Speaker 1: think it was like a twenty eight or what was
- 47:45Speaker 1: their twenty seven implied team total with big favorites at home?
- 47:50Speaker 1: So how's that gonna happen? I mean, obviously you look
- 47:51Speaker 1: at it like you went with Lawrence ETN and Myers
- 47:54Speaker 1: definitely a possibility. If you go to the Stone, you
- 47:58Speaker 1: could see that Myers and et We're both labeled as
- 48:01Speaker 1: even cash plays with high optimals. And then obviously Trevor
- 48:03Speaker 1: Lawrence decent enough and the stack rankings eight point one five,
- 48:06Speaker 1: so pretty solid there to go that route. And if
- 48:08Speaker 1: you're not going to be on the forty nine ers
- 48:11Speaker 1: with a twenty eight and a half point team implied
- 48:14Speaker 1: team total with a similar spread at home in a
- 48:16Speaker 1: great matchup against Tennessee, then why not be on the
- 48:20Speaker 1: Jags in that spot as a way to fill it
- 48:22Speaker 1: out in the difference. And then if you want what
- 48:23Speaker 1: you want with Jamar Chase amenra that type of setup,
- 48:26Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to afford a CMC
- 48:28Speaker 1: or a Kittle or whatever, so you have to get
- 48:30Speaker 1: there in a way that's different. So really sharp build,
- 48:32Speaker 1: but also with go.
- 48:33Speaker 2: Ahead Yeah, yeah, Also with the Chase stuff, right, you know,
- 48:35Speaker 2: most people playing Chase yesterday wanted one of those Ravens
- 48:38Speaker 2: tight ends, right, So not using either of Likely at
- 48:41Speaker 2: thirty four hundred, one hundred dollars cheaper than THEO Johnson,
- 48:45Speaker 2: which again you're double leveraging down with the Jackson, Dart
- 48:47Speaker 2: and Trevor Lawrence stuff, but then you're also using THEO
- 48:50Speaker 2: Johnson instead of Isaiah Likely along from the other side
- 48:54Speaker 2: of Jamar Chase.
- 48:55Speaker 3: Same thing with Mark Andrews at thirty nine hundred.
- 48:57Speaker 2: Now you're spending down to aj Barner, which gets you
- 48:59Speaker 2: the money to spend up to an Egles defense or
- 49:02Speaker 2: whatever it fits for the roster construction as well.
- 49:04Speaker 3: So I think that was also really sharp with Jamar Chase.
- 49:06Speaker 2: The way they were trying to get to Jamar Chase
- 49:09Speaker 2: was spending down with one of those Ravens tight ends
- 49:12Speaker 2: in a not match up against Cincinnati, So I think
- 49:14Speaker 2: that's also really sharp.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Yeah, very very nice lineup. Congrats to Need Lunch Money.
- 49:19Speaker 1: I was like, what member it was a few weeks
- 49:21Speaker 1: ago we had this laugh a little bit like he
- 49:22Speaker 1: had a crazy million maker finish that went against him, Like,
- 49:27Speaker 1: you know, it just didn't go his way fully. That
- 49:29Speaker 1: was me yesterday, just didn't go my way fully. And
- 49:31Speaker 1: then look at the turnaround. He ended up winning five
- 49:33Speaker 1: hundred k outright on the Monday night football slate in
- 49:35Speaker 1: the Showdown, unique lineup and then goes on a run
- 49:38Speaker 1: and heat it from there. Again he's he's always crushing it,
- 49:40Speaker 1: so it's good to see, but just noting it like it,
- 49:42Speaker 1: you know, turns it around in just a few weeks
- 49:44Speaker 1: even further than you know, didn't win that MILLI, but
- 49:46Speaker 1: then goes out wins the two and a half million,
- 49:48Speaker 1: a bunch more to go with it yesterday. So congrats
- 49:50Speaker 1: to Need Lunch Money. Needs anything else you want to
- 49:53Speaker 1: hit on with this late, anything else you've got to
- 49:54Speaker 1: bring up before we get out of here.
- 49:56Speaker 3: No, overall, I think we think we broke it down
- 49:58Speaker 3: really well.
- 49:59Speaker 2: And again to to Steve Nabors point in the chat, right,
- 50:03Speaker 2: if if defus mastermind isn't within your bank row, first off,
- 50:07Speaker 2: I would say invest in yourself, but not only that.
- 50:09Speaker 2: If if that's not the case, we try and we
- 50:11Speaker 2: do a lot of the thought process on kind of
- 50:14Speaker 2: the the higher level on these shows. Right, So go
- 50:17Speaker 2: back and watch these shows and break it down, and
- 50:19Speaker 2: then a lot of them we've showcased our tools, right
- 50:22Speaker 2: the stone stack rankings, things like that that we have
- 50:24Speaker 2: over at Shipping Nation. How you kind of talk through it, right,
- 50:27Speaker 2: you could delete all the names on there and just
- 50:28Speaker 2: look at the color coding and salary and build lineups
- 50:32Speaker 2: that way, just as a as kind of a starting point,
- 50:35Speaker 2: right to just help you get more in the thought process.
- 50:38Speaker 3: Right.
- 50:38Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff is kind of second nature
- 50:41Speaker 2: to to Tambo and myself right where That's the whole
- 50:44Speaker 2: point of why we do these shows. This show isn't
- 50:46Speaker 2: a isn't a view driver driver for us, isn't kind
- 50:49Speaker 2: of a money maker for us, But we do it
- 50:51Speaker 2: because it helps both of us and it helps a
- 50:53Speaker 2: lot of our members in the chat. This is one
- 50:55Speaker 2: of our lowest view shows on the entire site, if
- 50:58Speaker 2: not the lowest, and that's.
- 51:00Speaker 3: Why we do it.
- 51:00Speaker 2: We do it to help people to get better and
- 51:03Speaker 2: create a process to be more repeatable and going in
- 51:07Speaker 2: right so you can see start to see the puzzle
- 51:09Speaker 2: pieces going in. Not to say that you're gonna know
- 51:12Speaker 2: how to put the puzzle piece to get to puzzle
- 51:14Speaker 2: together perfectly, like only one person does in every tournament
- 51:17Speaker 2: that you play any given Sunday, but at least you
- 51:20Speaker 2: have a better idea of going in to the next
- 51:22Speaker 2: late that you can replicate over and over again.
- 51:25Speaker 1: Yeah, our man Gary got ninety first. I just looked
- 51:27Speaker 1: it up, So shout out to Gary. I mean, somebody
- 51:29Speaker 1: don't realize how hard it is, even to I'm not
- 51:31Speaker 1: saying you don't, but just in general, like it's super
- 51:32Speaker 1: hard just even make it to these events. So it's
- 51:35Speaker 1: an amazing accomplishment already to be there. I know it's
- 51:37Speaker 1: not the finish Gary would have wanted. We've all been
- 51:39Speaker 1: in that spot. It sucks, but just noting it, it's
- 51:42Speaker 1: like that's the way it goes. But getting to go
- 51:44Speaker 1: down and hang out. Hopefully had a really good time
- 51:46Speaker 1: down there. I looked at his lineup. It looked like
- 51:48Speaker 1: you went with Lamar Jackson, with Isaiah likely Jamar Chase.
- 51:53Speaker 1: He had ETN Junior. He had the Seahawks defense fan
- 51:57Speaker 1: and Slayton across from Bill the Bill Slayton secondary stack
- 52:01Speaker 1: with Pooka. It looks like a really good lineup on paper.
- 52:04Speaker 1: It just obviously didn't fully pan out. But congrats to
- 52:06Speaker 1: Gary'll making it down there at half tippy.
- 52:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a bunch of things you can say.
- 52:11Speaker 1: That Slayton touchdown was, you know, what would have been
- 52:14Speaker 1: a touchdown was definitely tilting for sure.
- 52:16Speaker 2: But it looked like Jamar Justin Jefferson last night dropping
- 52:19Speaker 2: touchdown in the back of the end zone. I think
- 52:20Speaker 2: he was shocked that JJ McCarthy actually threw him a
- 52:22Speaker 2: past that he could catch, went right through his hand.
- 52:25Speaker 1: I thought he like tried to say too hard and
- 52:27Speaker 1: I was gonna like settle down JJ.
- 52:29Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it wasn't too hard.
- 52:30Speaker 2: He was just shocked that JJ McCarthy actually put the
- 52:32Speaker 2: ball in anywhere that he could. I mean, he's dropping
- 52:34Speaker 2: dimes in a bucket to Jalen Naylor over the shoulder,
- 52:37Speaker 2: but Jefferson's running wide't open across the middle, and he's
- 52:40Speaker 2: throwing at forty feet above his head.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Yeah. The Day two winner is up. I know this
- 52:46Speaker 1: guy as well. Congrats to Sam Jeffcoat love to see that.
- 52:48Speaker 1: He said eggnog with some bourbon was his drink, Nads,
- 52:51Speaker 1: what was your drink now that we do Yesterday's was
- 52:53Speaker 1: the holiday drink of choice. I know you're always posting
- 52:56Speaker 1: whiskeys and bourbons and whatever you're posting. I don't know exactly,
- 52:59Speaker 1: but what's what's your main go to.
- 53:02Speaker 3: Winter time? For me?
- 53:03Speaker 2: It's a nice bourbon bourbon neat just to heat me up,
- 53:07Speaker 2: especially around the holidays here. You don't need a nice
- 53:10Speaker 2: thing about bourbon. You don't need a you don't need
- 53:12Speaker 2: a huge pore. It's not you don't have to get
- 53:14Speaker 2: all the soda mixings and all of that stuff.
- 53:16Speaker 3: So just pour something a little bourbon need in the cup.
- 53:19Speaker 3: It heats you up.
- 53:20Speaker 2: When it's five degrees outside, it's nice around here, So
- 53:23Speaker 2: bourbon definitely for me.
- 53:26Speaker 1: Yeah. We Day three will be up shortly. Make sure
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- 53:52Speaker 1: that you can chase it back. It's really easy. It's
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- 54:08Speaker 1: this week and all the support as usual for Nads,
- 54:10Speaker 1: for myself, to Tech and tambo letship It