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Sister Wives S6 E15 - While the Wives are Away... - Part 1 · My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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Goodbye. You.
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Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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Just look at the mountain. That's what you.
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Saw that day just the knife in
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and the sacrifices that I made
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Mayhem on the Brown cul-de-sac
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Chaos ensues. Season 6 episode 15 We are 15
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episodes into season 6 while the
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The Kody will play with his children.
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And does he actually play with
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Oh, I guess he kind of does. I was going to give him no
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flowers, but he might deserve a flower.
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Like maybe 1? Yeah, it's more like him just
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trying to keep them quiet the whole time so that he can
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actually think. Like he's struggling to have a
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thought because there's so much chaos and noise going on the
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entire episode for him. So while the description of this
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episode and the title kind of allude to the fact that the
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wives are going to be gone, they
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We do start the episode with a
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tells us she's decided to challenge herself to a 5K and as
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we know, she's been working out with trainer Sean and she tells
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us that a year ago she did a mile walk and it almost killed
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her. She decided to do a 5K.
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I mean, is I guess this is the
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Know she makes it seem like she hears people talk all the time
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in everyday life and say things like, Oh yeah, going to run a
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5K this weekend, nothing much going on here.
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And that she wants to be somebody that can say that she
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has ran a 5K. And she says that Shawn and her
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have been focusing on strength
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different sense. And this is going to be a new
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challenge for her. So Shawn has been helping her
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prep and he is just so sweet. I have to say.
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They show clips of them working out together again and he just
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seems like a really good guy. Even after the time we spent
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with him on Testosterone Tuesday, you still feel like
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he's a good guy. I do.
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I feel like he gave in a peer pressure a little bit.
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And I wished that he wouldn't have.
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I wished that he would have been
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said, hey, hey, hey, let's not
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But he's a good guy, you can tell, and he cares about her.
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I think he really does care about her.
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I agree the vibe is not like this is a professional
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obligation. Like he seems personally vested
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in her success. Yes.
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And of course because this is sister wives, we can't just talk
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about Janelle. We have to bring in one of her
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sister wives, Robyn. Robyn tells us that she designed
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some T-shirts that could be worn
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of participants for the 5K. At this point, you know, we're
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assuming that the team is probably family members, given
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that their family is enormous.
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how hideous these fucking shirts
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poorly designed. I mean, they're designed by
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Robyn. Absolutely disgusting, I wrote
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in detail. OK, before I hand the baton to
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you to tell us a little bit more
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hear about team shirts, I think bold lettering, I think name,
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I think they're all the same color, they're all the same
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whatnot, and it's easily identifiable from the
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distance. But we didn't get that from
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Robyn. What did we get?
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Oh my God, this garbage. So first of all, the T-shirt has
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depending on how you're looking at it.
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And then down the other side we have the words strong, amazing,
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passionate, yourself, confident, grateful, honest,
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happy. So we are going to be all these
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things. And it's written in this weird
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Renaissance type festival lettering that's not bold.
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It's on this bright green and red ugly, just children's
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preschool type colors. And it's printed in what looks
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like brown. So it's barely showing up on top
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of these bold colors. And there is a fluor thing.
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You know, I think of New Orleans
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the word be some weird vine stuff coming down off of that
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and a literal bee and a heart that's on fire.
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And then on the opposite side are the words.
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This looks like something you would have gotten a stamp of at
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a Hobby Lobby for on putting on cards or something.
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It looks like it's barely on the
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The vibes to me spoke almost like in a children's book or
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something that has illustrations
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decoration around the words. It's intricate, small, not
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easily seen from a distance. Doesn't read well, no.
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You literally. And also the way it's laid out,
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it's just nonsensical, clearly
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And Robyn's shirt is pink. We find out that Janelle's shirt
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is blue and eventually we see that Christine's shirt is
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orange. There is just this multitude of
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colors with this ugly print that
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further away than three feet. So it's like these are your team
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shirts. This woman is so fucking dumb.
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I can't even. I can't even.
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And they're the cheap type of shirts too, that a high schooler
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would get for their team sport
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They're not nice comfort color
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I think that's probably the norm
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cheaper shirts. I don't think they had all the
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nice soft micromodel T-shirts that we love now today, but they
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look uncomfortable. They look scratchy and thick and
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not like something I would want to be running in.
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No, thank you. Yeah, the vibe is an ugly
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version of the T-shirt they give
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in the 5K, where then maybe you save it and wear it while
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you're painting or going on your
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You know, like not something you
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design and have made. Or make a T-shirt quilt out of
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Christopher. Oh, more quilts.
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That's all this family needs and
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talk about quilts. Yes, indeed.
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Well, as Robyn arrives at the house and I don't know if we
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were at Christine or Janelle's, but Robyn arrives at the house
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with this T-shirt in her hand and she tells us that she's so
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nervous 'cause she wants to make
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comfortable in this shirt. It only arrived late last night
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and she's been so nervous about it all night.
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And I'm like, don't you live like 30 feet away?
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You couldn't have brought it over last night.
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You couldn't have discussed this
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You couldn't have sent her a text message?
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Also, why were they arriving so late?
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Is it because you can't even backtrack from a date to have a
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shirt made so it arrives more than the night before?
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She's just incapable of doing anything.
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And it felt kind of fake to me, like a production line.
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It did. It did fake drama.
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The shirts come in late and she's worried about the sizing.
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The whole the whole drama here
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large and Janelle says that she used to be a 4XL and I don't
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know if you know, but that's XL,
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She has to let us know and she
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fitting and being uncomfortable and she gives a little smirk
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when she leaves to go try it on,
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she knew already that it was going to fit.
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It felt like it was staged, yeah.
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The whole thing felt staged also
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during the whole thing, she looked like her life was in
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ruins. Like she showed up as if she had
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like bitten all of her fingernails off and I pulled her
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hair out and all these things.
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And it's like, this is just not even possible.
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It's a T-shirt and you live next
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And it just none of it made any sense.
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And as if you wouldn't ask what size to order, right?
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That's the first thing you ask
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You send around a sheet and say check your size next to your
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name or whatever this organization would be for a team
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event and they can't even do the
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they didn't. Who knows.
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Fake drama. Real drama could be either with
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this fucking family. Robyn might have literally made
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a mistake because maybe that's
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a 4X was just because Robyn couldn't comprehend.
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Probably she can barely count to
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What an idiot. My other thought was that she
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purposely ordered a size smaller
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because she's low key diabolical and wanted to embarrass her.
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Or just I was being nefarious, I
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And even if it wasn't her intention, I could also see that
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being a production tactic. Like we're going to get Janelle
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the wrong size shirt to make some drama.
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So there's possibilities for drama.
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There's always the possibilities
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because she doesn't understand.
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So yeah, that's always an option.
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So she goes into the bathroom, she puts this shirt on, and
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everybody is just waiting on pins and needles for her to come
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And it shows off her curves and her weight loss and everyone's
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I'm actually really impressed.
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Oh, he's so gross. Actually really impressed but.
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When she comes around the corner
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trying on this shirt, I thought she just looked so great.
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I mean, it is probably, I don't want to say maybe it's not the
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best we've ever seen her look,
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It's very fitting to her. And I said she has tits and she
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has a waist and she rocks this
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got that natural blonde. So the blue actually does go
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well with her hair and her skin,
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T-shirt. And I thought she looked the
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best I've seen her look. I thought she looked great.
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And even though she was like morning, no makeup, putting on a
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T-shirt, she looked really good.
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Yeah, leave it to Kody to make a comment about how he didn't
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think it was going to fit, but he's actually really impressed.
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Just the word, actually.
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It's a tactic to put somebody down.
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He's always got to put something
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you're actually putting the person down 1st.
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It's gross. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's very Kody behavior.
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response because she's teeing up
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approval about whether it looks OK.
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You know, she's talking about how there's no hiding what shape
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she is because of how tight it
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But while she's saying this, she
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She has like a enthusiasm about her speak.
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And I just thought that she looked so great, especially
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because we're used to seeing her
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flowy things. And it was like, holy shit.
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Like she literally has a waist.
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And I've never seen it before. So when she Tees up to Kody, you
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you know, you'll tell me. And he was like, I'm actually
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really impressed. It's like, OK, Kody, he's color.
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Say you look great, definitely
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You look wonderful. Yeah, I couldn't do that.
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I would be insulted if somebody said it to me like that, but
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they're used to him talking to
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it even registered. We get a couch moment with the
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wives where all the adults are
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amazing when she did this T-shirt reveal.
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And Christine says I'm so proud of you.
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And Robyn goes, it showed off.
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your hips, and Robyn's, like how
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Like she's literally lost a bunch of weight.
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And it was showing off her body parts and in a way that I
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believe was appropriate for a polygamist.
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Now, I don't know. You could see her elbows.
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So you know. Yeah, they are being
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complimentary and kind and it's a good, it's a good moment to
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watch. We don't get a lot of those
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where they seem genuinely interested in what's going on
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with the other person. I think as we've noticed a lot,
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Robyn's spacing out, not paying attention, being a little
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preschooler. And then we've got Janelle
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staring at the floor, usually spacing out, trying to
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disassociate from whatever is being said on the couch.
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So the fact that they're all engaged and giving her actual
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compliments is good to see. You forgot to mention how Meri's
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sitting there thinking of a defensive reaction even though
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they're not talking about her or
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Yes, yes, thinking of a way to
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gets thrown under the bus again.
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Speaking of Meri, she tells us that she's super busy with her
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consistently, so overwhelmingly, and need so much
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coordination that she couldn't possibly participate in a 5K on
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the weekend because she's so busy with my sister wife's
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closet orders. I bought it.
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I bought it for sure. Yeah, definitely.
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It looked very convincing when you saw her face and the
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demeanor and yeah, sure, OK. And we have another excuse from
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a sister wife, Robyn. Robyn can't run because she hurt
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She would be that person. Oh, I have a I have a back
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injury from a previous incident and it changes every single
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time, like what the incident was and the injury.
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Yeah, good old Robyn. We love her.
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The other thing is, doesn't she say that her and her daughter
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Aurora have this thing where they constantly need to have
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snacks or they pass out? Oh God.
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Doesn't she say something like that at one point?
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So I'm shocked she didn't use that as the excuse.
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Oh, I can't run because I have this.
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Whatever low blood sugar problem, I think she brought
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that up in another episode previously.
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She's always got something. She's the pick me so.
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Yes, there's always some reason that she can't participate.
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And even though we did watch her participate in the anagram
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thing, remember that the personality test and she later
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questions for me. It's like we have footage of you
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Nauseous. Probably pretending she was
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pregnant to get Kody's attention because it was about everybody,
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not just her at the therapy getaway.
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I completely. I've invested so much in that
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conspiracy theory, like my entire retirement is binged on
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How are we going to find out? We get to the park and we're
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about to start the 5K and Janelle talks about how she's
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worried about what people are going to think about her.
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She's worried about people snickering at an overweight
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person running a 5K, and that really hit home.
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I think all of us have issues when we go to the gym being
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worried about what other people are thinking or people watching
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me. Am I doing this right?
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And it was a very real moment. She gets to the park and she's
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And we get the voice over of her saying that she's worried about
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people laughing. It's got to be tough when you're
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she referenced how she went on a one mile walk and it almost
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killed her. So this is quite a different
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feat. I do wish she didn't have the
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internalized pressure or whatever pressures to run
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because you don't have to run at a 5K, but you know, whatever.
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I was the only child in first grade that had gym homework.
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I couldn't learn how to jump rope so I got sent home with a
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with a jump rope and I had to tie it to a doorknob in
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practice. Oh wow.
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So I really understood where she
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I'm I get you, Janelle, I feel.
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Yeah, I'm going. I feel like I have so many
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questions answered right now. It makes sense.
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It makes sense. Oh boy.
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And we see Janelle starting to walk.
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At the beginning, it was hard to tell because it's, as usual in
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When it started, when it stopped, all these things.
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But Kody's there, Christine's there, other family members are
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there. We don't get a lot of details
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about them to start with. It's like it started and
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everyone's doing things. And we hear Kody talking about
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establish my pace. So I had my pace for the whole
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thing. So he basically ended up leaving
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behind his children and his wives and maybe everyone but
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Sean. No, because Sean was with
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Janelle towards the end so who
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He might have just abandoned everybody.
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So Janelle, her point about being nervous is that she got a
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late start because she kind of
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late because she was worried about how she looked and then
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got the courage up and started a
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And Kody ran ahead with Gabriel and Savannah and they kept
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pace. They kept pace with me.
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He established a pace. He does say that word many a
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time. And Shawn stays with Janelle.
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He's running with a stroller with his kids in it.
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It's a double stroller. He's got two kids in it and he
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they would at least all start together, but they didn't.
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And of course, as a response to Janelle being really, in my
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opinion, being very gracious about her approach, he's kind of
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assume that we would at least start together.
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And then of course, Kody has to respond in his Kody way by being
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I don't know that anyone's jumping to the conclusion that
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bastard who is a narcissist and only thinks of himself so no one
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negative things about you so of course you have to respond by
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saying it doesn't make you an evil dude.
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He is so gross. Christian laughs and goes.
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Well, he had to keep going because he'd established a pace,
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It's weird and Janelle does say that Gabriel and Savannah ended
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up coming back to run and finish with her and she thinks
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it's because Kody outpaced them that he even outran his own
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kids and then they decided to come back and run with her.
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I would like to think that it was out of the goodness of their
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back to run with her. But it could be because their
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dad's an asshole and outran his own children on purpose so.
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It's probably both. He has to turn a 5K that looks
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Like this is not a competitive race.
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And of course he has to be a showboat because he's fucking
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Kody Brown. They do eventually show a clip
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And it I couldn't tell once again if it was towards the end.
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towards the end. And then they show her walking
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again. But then we see her picking up
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pace to kind of run to the finish line.
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And I thought it was really cute
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It was just great to see. I loved it.
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It was. They also show us that Christine
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and Mckelty ran as well. Yeah, they don't really talk
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about it, but it's pretty cool
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them too. I would have been pissed if I
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was Janelle that Kody, of course
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himself and outrun everybody and
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her. He could have started with her
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conversations about these things outside of production,
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which I think we basically know that they don't, but it's
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one of those things where wouldn't you talk about that
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with your spouse honestly, at some point afterwards?
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I mean, even if you don't want to make a scene at the event and
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3 weeks later after Robyn's 2 1/2 weeks with Kody are up.
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That. She would say something like, I
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just kind of wish that you would have done that.
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I mean, it could have made me feel better and I think it would
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something like those conversations probably do not
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happen at all. It's bizarre to me that a spouse
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they weren't in a group to begin with.
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That they were all so spread out that they didn't know where the
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other ones were when it started.
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That's very, very weird to me.
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is at at this time. And because they're teeing it
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all up as if this is, like, a thing for Janelle, Like, it's a
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big deal, a big dull for Janelle.
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Now, who knows how much the family actually talked about
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that beforehand or whether that was a take away and a, you
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know, an angle for production.
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was really aware that this was
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do, and it was a big dull. So Kody is just once again
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living in his own world. Literally in his own world,
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needing to beat all of the 50 year olds and people that can't
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run as fast as him, people with ankle issues.
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Like, I don't know, this seemed like a ragtag group of people
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running this 5K and he had to be
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OK, Of course he did. Of course.
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Like, are you proud of yourself?
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Are you so proud that you outran everybody?
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Kody Brown. OK, what a loser.
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God, seriously. Well, after they finish the 4K,
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Christine and Robyn both talk about how proud they are of
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Janelle. So Robyn was there, she did show
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Meri was out, you know, bubble wrapping all that jewelry and
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bringing it to The UPS Store over and over and over again.
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But it was cute to see Christine and Robyn telling Janelle that
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those flowers, even if her husband abandoned her.
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We cut to three days later, which they make sure to let us
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don't, but it's three days later, everybody and the sister
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wives are going on a road trip to San Francisco.
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They are going to look at dresses for a commitment
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ceremony. A commitment ceremony.
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Have we heard about this before? Sounds vaguely familiar, I'm not
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Not alone. Basically, Aspen's going to be
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And Christine lets us know that Aspen is stressed about watching
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You know what's coming down the pipeline here.
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Yeah, Christine checks in with Kody and Aspen at her kitchen
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table and they're making some plans for while the wives are
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away. While they're doing their sister
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does it, it's just her in charge.
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So having this Kody element involved is adding something
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that's different. Now, we do love Aspen and she's
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so nice. She's just trying to not say my
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dad is incompetent and barely a parent and this is going to be
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a nightmare. She's just saying that it's
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going to be different. She would rather be doing it
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alone. Oh yeah, you can tell.
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There's some things with this episode that we'll get into
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where I'm going. What is the truth here?
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What is happening? Different number of days,
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different number of kids. It's all over the place, but
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Janelle has a moment where she's
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says, you know, Kody's pretty capable, but this is the
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longest we've ever left him alone with the kids overnight.
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Yeah, Yeah. We'll see how this goes.
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Nervous laughter. And I'm like, overnight.
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How many nights are we talking
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Just one night. This is the first time where I
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was paying attention to what is the details of this trip.
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They're kind of giving us some
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And then it seems like the details change as we learn more
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about it. So I don't know, hard to track.
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They definitely do. They talk about it being a
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weekend at one point and then when they get back Kody says
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they were gone a week. So there's a lot of confusion
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here. And of course, it could just be
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the words being used here, like when she says overnight, that
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doesn't just mean one night, but
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viewer, I'm going, so they're just going to be gone one night.
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I'm like, isn't the drive to San
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probably a day trip? So it just was all not setting
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it up very well as we're used to
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Robyn says that if she was left alone with all the kids, she
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would have been stressed and overwhelmed.
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And Kody says all be fine. And they all kind of do this,
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like half smile, like, yeah, we all think that's true.
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I was going to say like, they're
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really are. So it does fit.
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Yeah, there's a point where Kody
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Aspen is trying to meal plan and
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Kody is like, no, no, no, I have
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It'll be fine. We'll be fine.
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It's just a little insight into the fact that his daughter is
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more mature than he is and trying to plan ahead and he's
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pretending. He's pretending he has a plan in
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front of his wives. So I don't know.
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But we go back to the couch and we've got the adults and
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they're talking about this trip and whether or not they're
29:33
excited for the trip. And Meri says that she's excited
29:38
to go back to the Bay Area because she's from there and
29:42
hasn't been there in a while. Christine asks her, are you
29:49
excited to go with us? Not just to go back to the Bay
29:53
Area, but do you want to go with
30:00
It's very, very weird because she kind of whispers and goes.
30:05
You don't. I can see it in your eyes.
30:08
And Meri says, I don't know how to answer the question.
30:11
Long pause. I think it could be a lot of
30:16
fun. I'm a little nervous about it
30:19
because this is not something we
30:24
And Robyn agrees. And that's when Janelle says
30:27
ever. So Christine's teeing up this
30:29
question. And I don't want to say she's
30:31
giving her, like, a gotcha moment, but it has this element
30:34
of, you know, I'm going to ask
30:36
I know that you're not going to answer it truthfully.
30:38
And now I'm going to point out
30:40
you're not going to tell me what
30:42
And it's like, well, yeah. I mean, you guys don't ever
30:44
spend any time together alone,
30:47
And, you know, Meri says it's uncharted territory, so she's
30:50
nervous. Christine, you know, says, I get
30:54
it. I'm a little nervous too.
30:56
It did feel a bit like Christine
30:59
but then by the end of this exchange realizes, oh, I'm in
31:03
the same boat. So why am I calling her out?
31:05
I'll just kind of tone it down.
31:08
It was so awkward because you've got Janelle looking pissed when
31:13
Meri says, I don't know how to answer the question.
31:18
Robyn's got her jaw set so tight and she's jutting her lower jaw
31:23
out and forward like she has a massive underbite and she's
31:29
jutting it out super, super obvious in this scene.
31:35
Everyone's feeling so awkward that the Habsburg jaw is jawing,
31:45
uncomfortable. And then by the end it's
31:48
lighthearted and Christine's admitting she's nervous as well.
31:56
It definitely speaks to their dysfunction and kind of never
32:01
being on the same page. And it was just awkward all
32:05
around. I didn't really know what to
32:06
take from it other than jeez, these women do not hang out
32:10
alone ever. Clearly.
32:11
No, I kind of got the vibe that maybe Meri had been talking
32:16
about the trip and going on and on about, oh, the Bay Area.
32:20
And I know this about the Bay Area.
32:21
And when I used to live in the
32:25
annoying that pissed Christine
32:29
And maybe she'd been going on and on about it.
32:31
So Christine was like, OK, but
32:34
with us not just to the Bay Area?
32:37
That maybe she was annoyed and
32:41
came up. And then when they got to the
32:43
brass tacks of it all, she's like, oh, yeah, well, I'm
32:46
nervous about it as well. And they reconnected again.
32:50
It was so awkward. And leave it to fucking Meri.
32:54
Leave it to Meri to just be like, I don't know how to answer
32:58
the question. Like bitch that says it all.
33:03
That says everything we need to know right there.
33:06
Because who would literally come
33:11
to answer the question, only her?
33:14
Because that's an answer. That's an answer.
33:18
We get it. She's so direct without being
33:22
direct that it's painful. It just Harkins back to this
33:26
whole faux narrative that she can't express herself.
33:28
It's like the bitch expresses herself plenty.
33:30
I do not buy for one second that she doesn't feel comfortable
33:33
because even when she says basically nothing, everyone
33:36
knows what she's saying. It's whatever.
33:38
Yeah, this is one of those moments where I can't believe
33:43
she said that type of thing. She couldn't just have
33:47
pretended. If you weren't going to say an
33:57
everything. Also, I kind of feel like Meri,
34:01
I don't remember the details of this from becoming Sister Wives,
34:09
four or six, like she was a kid.
34:12
Very young. Right.
34:14
So we're not talking about someone who had like a whole
34:17
life of experiences in San Francisco.
34:19
She was a very young kid. And then they left to probably
34:22
join the cult or something. So you know.
34:26
God, this woman. And the cherry on top of this
34:28
shit sundae is Kody chiming in.
34:30
Of course, Kody has to jump in. Do you think you all will miss
34:41
as you'll miss us with 15 kids. And I'm going, here's the first
34:44
number of children that we're going to hear.
34:46
That never changes all the time in this episode.
34:48
Now, I did realize as I was scrutinizing as I'm going
34:51
through the episode, I go, OK, so maybe in certain scenes,
34:54
hunters at a sporting event, someone is blah, blah, blah.
34:57
Why is it 15 kids to begin with? How many kids do they even have?
35:02
What is happening? Like they don't give us anything
35:04
to start with ever. So you're just left going, what
35:07
does this mean? And maybe we'll get a little
35:10
clarity, but I kind of doubt it.
35:12
We we find out one of the children won't be there and
35:15
we'll find out why. And I'm going to wait to reveal
35:18
it because it thumbs. Up I have a feeling we'll talk a
35:26
Will and Robyn makes a point to say that they are all really
35:32
really going to miss the kids and that Kody comes first after
35:37
the kids and so they are lazy with their relationships as the
35:43
sister wives and they really need to do this.
35:48
OK Robyn, thank you. Thank you for your wisdom.
35:53
We get another reminder of their upcoming commitment ceremony
35:57
from Kody. Of course, he's telling us that
36:00
there's going to be this not recommitment ceremony.
36:02
And is it even a commitment ceremony?
36:04
We're not sure there's some sort of thing going to happen.
36:08
And Robyn interjects and calls it a party, which I love because
36:15
She's got to give a little correction here, a little
36:17
correction corner from Janelle. Yeah, Janelle thinks that it's
36:24
formal. She literally says, hot off the
36:26
heels of when Robyn calls it a party.
36:28
She says it's not just a party. She goes, I mean, it is a party
36:32
and it will be fun, but the kids will be involved.
36:35
And really it's a bit more of a formal thing.
36:38
We're making a commitment to work together as a family and
36:41
build our future in this new place.
36:42
So I kind of feel like she might have realized in the moment that
36:49
going to continue on with my description of what I mean
36:53
because if I don't, I probably just look like a bitch when she
36:56
should have been a bitch because fuck Robyn.
36:59
Yeah. And it's interesting that that
37:00
came from Janelle, that Janelle felt like she needed to speak
37:04
up and say something and that she actually did.
37:07
She came out of her comatose state on the couch and actually
37:11
said something that was a little
37:14
Yeah, I don't know. It's like with the blocks when
37:17
she was saying that it didn't need to be, you know, artistic
37:20
or even or whatever. Yeah, these random moments where
37:24
she just decides she's going to express herself.
37:27
And then she surprises herself
37:31
and backtracks. Like, oh God, totally.
37:35
By the end of her three sentence
37:38
correcting back to what is more appropriate or reasonable.
37:41
It's like, you know, girl, it's fine.
37:42
You can have an opinion, it's all right.
37:44
As we've learned, that's a problem for her.
37:46
It's a problem for her to speak up.
37:48
She doesn't ever feel like she
37:51
Well, Meri, Meri was so mean to her, you know, that she didn't
37:54
have an opportunity to share how
37:57
because Meri was also too busy
38:02
That's that's why Janelle finds it hard to express herself.
38:05
But we do see this a lot. You know, we are calling out two
38:09
moments right here where she does course correct, as you
38:12
said, and tries to share her opinion and then kind of freaks
38:16
out and takes it back or backtracks.
38:19
And so there's some sort of trauma there.
38:22
There's some sort of response where she, you know, snaps
38:26
herself out of it and thinks, oh, shit, I'm going to get in
38:29
trouble later. So it's, it's weird to watch
38:33
because you can see, you can tell that she's doing that.
38:36
And there's something that made her have that reaction, You
38:39
know, it's like, oh. All the times that Meri took out
38:44
that ruler and beat Janelle over
38:46
you're not folding the towels right?
38:48
You're not folding the towels right, The oranges go in the
38:50
fridge, not on the counter. Bam bam bam.
38:52
They're right. Excuse me, got a little out of
38:59
She'd be like, I'm really good at the game.
39:04
Quarters. We're going to play a game of
39:07
quarters, Janelle, you know, where you flick the quarter at
39:12
sucks at it. And that's like her way of
39:15
getting out her punishment. I feel like Meri would do some
39:24
sort of abuse that Meri might have done.
39:26
No, no, no, no. It's showing up here.
39:29
It's definitely showing up that Janelle has some sort of trauma
39:33
response happening. And Speaking of Meri, she says
39:40
relationships rather than with the formalities of this
39:43
commitment ceremony. So she's apprehensive about the
39:46
San Francisco trip because she doesn't know if her heart is
39:50
really in it. I think it comes back to what
39:53
Kody ends up saying, that this trip is about business and
39:57
looking for dresses and shopping for dresses for the ceremony.
40:01
But he thinks it'll be a really good bonding experience.
40:04
And I think that maybe she's referencing that.
40:07
It shouldn't be about the dresses for the commitment
40:11
ceremony. It should be about the bonding
40:23
They're cutting things out on us, so it's hard to read between
40:28
They just do this to us and and that's why we're here and that's
40:35
things to infer upon. This is it.
40:37
If anyone's going to make up scenarios about the Brown
40:40
family, it's us here on My Sister Wives podcast.
40:42
It's got to be us. But now our favorite sister
40:48
wives, our favorite polygamist, the sister wives are all going
40:54
Jack, don't you come back. No more, no more, no more, no
40:57
more. And you know, for a once in a
41:00
lifetime road trip to San Francisco, I'm going to.
41:03
Oh God, what is it called when you give away the future?
41:08
Spoiler alert, we don't get any footage of them driving down the
41:15
where they're supposed to turn, not reading the map correctly,
41:25
And I'm a little sad because I could have used some in car
41:28
footage of, you know, Janelle rolling her eyes at Robyn and
41:32
Meri not communicating while communicating the entire time.
41:40
do. She doesn't even do the road
41:43
math for us. She doesn't tell us when they
41:46
need to stop, where they need to stop, how long the drives going
41:49
to be, how many miles it is to an hour.
41:52
Not this time around. They just get in the car and
41:56
they go Flintstone style. They're out of there.
42:00
That's it. Especially with Meri's intimate
42:03
history with San Francisco, she's it's a destination she's
42:09
Can't believe it? Oh my God.
42:11
Can't believe we didn't get the road math on it.
42:13
I appreciate you bringing up that road math because really
42:16
that was a highlight from Mayor. After the wives hit the road,
42:20
Kody gathers all the children to discuss plans for while the
42:24
wives are away. He says it will be smooth for
42:28
the week. The moms are gone, which once
42:30
again made me confused on the timeline.
42:32
I'm like, so they're going to be gone a week?
42:35
OK, sounds good. They're going to be gone a week.
42:39
Can you imagine them going on an
42:42
go dress shopping? That's why I think that Kody is
42:46
the one that's inflating the amount of days because he says a
42:50
week when they get back as well,
42:54
It's probably felt like a fucking week to you, Sir,
42:56
because you have too many children and you cannot wrangle
43:00
them on your own. So maybe to you it felt like a
43:03
week. I think that's what's happening
43:05
here. That makes.
43:06
Sense. Exactly.
43:08
Even just anticipating it, he's like, they're going to be gone
43:10
for a week. It's like they're not going to
43:12
be gone for a week. You just don't know how to spend
43:15
more than 15 minutes alone with your children.
43:17
But you know what? Yeah, so he gathers all of the
43:22
older kids at the table and they're trying to make a plan
43:26
for the week, and Kody is telling everyone to stop
43:31
talking, stop talking, stop talking.
43:35
He says it over and over again.
43:37
He looks at Maddie and he goes, you stop talking.
43:40
Every time everyone else stops talking, you start talking.
43:43
And Maddie gets this look on her face and looks at her other
43:47
siblings next to her. Like what the fuck, he's losing
43:53
it already. Only one person talk at a time.
43:59
Like, Oh my God, he's totally
44:02
losing it, yes. He's overwhelmed already and to
44:06
be fair it would be a lot of noise and my ADD ass would not
44:13
be able to focus on the task at hand with that many children
44:18
doing whatever the fuck they were doing.
44:20
I mean, I only want to shame him
44:23
deserves the shame. I would be shamed for other
44:26
reasons, for my complete lack of
44:29
Like I would have been like, I
44:31
then I need to go sequester myself in a room and I hope you
44:34
all survive. That's probably the route I
44:36
would have taken. So I can only judge because
44:40
we're here to judge. I think it's fair to judge
44:42
because he's the one that has this many children.
44:45
He chose to have this many children and he has this many
44:48
children and he has had this many children and he can't
44:52
handle being in a room with them
44:57
and having it wave around and getting all worked up and
45:01
overwhelmed. And it's like, dude, how many
45:05
times have you been in the room with all your children like
45:08
this? Apparently not enough because
45:10
you're struggling to even have a
45:14
your mind. Yeah.
45:15
And this is not the last time where it would cross someone's
45:18
mind. How many times are they all
45:20
together these days? Because even when the wives
45:22
return, there's a moment where
45:25
aren't you all together with any
45:28
Because there's a moment where
45:30
the case. You know, we're alluding to it,
45:33
but there's this undercurrent that I don't think anyone
45:36
listening to this podcast will
45:38
almost a vibe of daddy's going
45:44
children. And I don't know how much of A
45:47
tangent we can go on about this.
45:49
Obviously we, I just mean, you know, because of the laws of
45:52
nature and time and space and all of that, just disappointing
45:55
in so many ways and frustrating, you know?
45:58
Well, we get a prime example of it right here, this dad
46:03
mentality. Kody says that he is going to
46:06
grill one day, Maybe tonight. I'm going to make chickens,
46:11
burgers, hot dogs, steak, and the leftovers will be lunch for
46:16
the rest of the week. No more cooking for the rest of
46:21
the week. It'll all be done.
46:23
It'll be perfect. And the older kids are looking
46:29
That's the plan. Dad, you're going to grill one
46:36
like, there are ways to feed people without bulk grilling on
46:39
one day and then just telling people to throw it in the
46:43
microwave. Like even if you want to go
46:44
simple and do a few boxes of Mac and cheese or breakfast for
46:47
dinner, like there's so many things you obviously can do if
46:52
And if I'm spending time with the kids, usually meal or food
46:57
So let's give him, let's give him whatever you'd be giving him
47:04
Have some fun nights, do something interesting, do
47:06
something unique. Instead, he's defaulting too.
47:08
I'm going to batch grill a bunch of shit and then be like meal
47:12
plan yourselves. Like gross.
47:13
It's such a dad like way to handle this.
47:17
It's such a thing a dad would do.
47:20
Oh God. And I feel yucky even saying
47:22
that, but it's like, come on dude.
47:24
Imagine you'd have to grill 28 hot dogs at least if that's
47:29
going to be their lunch for the rest of the week.
47:33
A whole week of hot dogs, Sir I. Don't know, and I think you
47:39
might have been doing some girl math there because I don't think
47:46
I mean, he could eat 14 hot dogs in two days himself.
47:49
Oh God. Yeah, at one point the kids are
47:52
excited and exclaiming and enthusiasm about these food
47:55
things or whatever. And he goes, OK, settle down,
47:59
Browns. And I was like, oh, I actually
48:02
I'm like, all right, you are the Browns.
48:04
And like, that's kind of cute, but maybe cute's not the right
48:10
Lil Ry me probably says it a lot.
48:14
It's probably some little quip that the family says quite a
48:17
bit. And Kody ponders to the
48:19
children. Another thing I want to do is
48:21
something really fun with you guys, an activity.
48:24
What are your ideas? Which I love because obviously
48:30
Laser tag, laser tag bowling, YMCA, wet and wild and Kody's
48:37
like. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
48:40
whoa. Overwhelmed, can't handle all
48:46
the input shutting down. Right.
48:49
It's like, once again, hard drive overload.
48:50
Don't you have like 37 children? Aren't you accustomed at all to
48:55
having to ask these people questions, these young people?
49:01
with all of his kids at once before.
49:02
It's very bizarre. Well, even Aspen is surprised
49:05
that he wants to do this all in one place with all the children
49:09
at once. She's almost thinking he's going
49:14
And when they're initially talking before the moms leave
49:18
and they're having the conversation with Christine,
49:21
Aspen's shocked that he wants to get everybody together every
49:26
night for meals or for this or that.
49:30
And it does have me thinking there is 4 houses and there is
49:45
He can't spend the night in every house to be with his kids.
49:52
scenario? Is an older child in each of the
49:55
houses having to be there? It's it's kind of weird.
50:02
Because both Christine and Janelle have children that are
50:05
old enough where I don't know the rules, but perhaps an
50:10
overnight would be OK. You know, Aspen's clearly
50:13
responsible enough to probably
50:15
But then you've got little truly, who's so young.
50:18
Robyn's house. There's nobody old enough to be
50:22
left alone with children overnight, so maybe Kody stayed
50:26
there. You know, what you're teeing up
50:27
does lend to this thing where I was thinking, there's no way he
50:30
actually did do this by himself,
50:33
Like there had to be other adults around.
50:35
Yeah, it feels weird. Unless he had Robyn's kids come
50:40
to one of the other houses and
50:44
irresponsible. And she has her like cousin,
50:47
niece, sister-in-law, nanny person that we aren't really
50:52
familiar with, but she's been in
50:56
there. Maybe even before the 5K or
50:58
something. She was sitting on a couch.
51:00
She was at Robyn's Talk about Purity sitting at the back,
51:05
Yeah. So I don't know if she lives
51:07
with them or not, I'm not sure, but she's around.
51:10
So just the the lack of any other adults other than Kody in
51:15
the footage made me hesitate that he was actually alone the
51:19
entire time with all of them. I kind of doubt it.
51:21
I know there's laws about kids
51:26
if they're under the age of whatever it is for the state.
51:29
I think I remember it being 8 when I was younger.
51:34
You couldn't be alone for a certain amount of time if you
51:36
were under 8. There's weird stuff that if
51:38
somebody were to report you and be able to prove that you're
51:41
leaving your child alone that long, that with a sibling that's
51:45
not responsible be bad. And I think that that's
51:50
something that polygamous family
51:55
I think so just it's it's weird to think about this.
52:00
When Kody admits having a meeting with the 13 children and
52:04
what's the challenge? Having them agree on anything?
52:06
And I'm going 13 children. Now it's 13 kids and I'm going,
52:10
OK, so there's no Logan, no Solomon.
52:15
So the math, I guess a couple kids might not have been at this
52:19
meeting is where I'm going. OK, so we have to figure this
52:22
out as viewers. We're not just allowed to watch
52:24
the show and enjoy it because no, we can't.
52:27
It's Sister Wives now. There's thirteen children.
52:30
And this is to Aspen's point that she can't believe he
52:33
doesn't have a plan because he's
52:39
to do for the weekend. If you have a family this big,
52:42
if you have a family with two kids like I do, you make the
52:46
plans for the weekend. Yeah, it's OK to ask your kids.
52:50
Would you like to choose between
52:54
But you don't just throw the question out there.
52:57
You're the parent, you make the decision.
52:59
You should probably have a plan if there's this many kids
53:02
involved, so. It's almost like having a
53:05
classroom of students now, they're all different ages, but
53:08
you wouldn't leave a classroom
53:11
going to be doing. And that might not be a fair
53:13
thing. It just makes me think of the
53:14
number of kids. I mean, it's a room full of
53:17
fucking children hollering their
53:20
And Kody's like, turns out this wasn't as easy as I thought
53:23
it'd be. Like, why did you think it would
53:24
be easy? Aren't you their parent?
53:26
Like Oh my God, what an idiot.
53:33
To come back to the grilling of it all, he makes a comment
53:40
after, you know, talking about
53:43
be the plan for the cooking, at least there's going to be no
53:46
more cooking the rest of the week.
53:48
And you can't really screw up grilling, can you?
53:52
Such a lame tee up. So lame.
53:55
So lame. Aspen goes to the door and she's
53:59
checking on Ysabel and Ysabel has been running across the
54:02
cul-de-sac and comes up and we
54:08
toe. Stubbed her toe.
54:14
We find out that she stubbed her
54:18
cul-de-sac barefoot, and she's
54:24
hanging off of her big toe. So Kody comes running because
54:29
there's drama. He hears the drama and he
54:32
carries Ysabelle to the tub. The Jacuzzi tub sets her on the
54:39
edge of the tub and is cleaning off her foot.
54:45
And it's cute. It's actually cute what he does
54:50
here. So he's he's holding her foot up
54:53
and her feet are so dirty. They are like black and he's
54:57
holding it up and he's like pulling the skin back and
55:00
cleaning it out and telling her she's doing such a good job.
55:03
She's so tough and I was impressed.
55:07
It was a little hard to see the extent of her injury because
55:11
her feet were even more filthy than the usual brown piggy
55:14
piggy feet that we're used to seeing.
55:17
They were disgusting, literally so gross.
55:19
Kody says that it's like she's been traveling across the plains
55:25
And they literally were disgusting.
55:27
And yeah, as she's sitting on the side of the tub, he's got
55:31
the shower wand attachment thing and he's spraying her feet.
55:34
And it did remind me of when I was a kid.
55:36
And when you're doing that with your parent and then they're
55:39
like, get me the peroxide for the gaping wound.
55:41
And you're like, oh, it's just going to be terrible because
55:44
yes, you do want to clean it out.
55:45
And he points out that it is on her foot.
55:47
So he's going to be very thorough, and there's just
55:50
nothing like having someone else pull back your open wound and
55:54
spraying it with water and then dousing it with peroxide.
55:57
She was a trooper. And he says that she was a
56:00
trooper. And it was not a bad scene in
56:02
the sense that, yeah, he was a dad doing what you would think a
56:07
So that's pretty big for Kody.
56:11
and they show us and he goes, there's a whole chunk of dirt in
56:15
here. I got to get it out.
56:16
I got to get it out like. And poor Ysabel is literally
56:21
wincing in pain, but also being a trooper.
56:24
She's literally, she's not screaming, she's not crying,
56:26
she's not doing anything nuts.
56:29
God, Oh my God, Oh my God. And I, she probably took it
56:31
better than me. I would have been like, Oh my
56:33
God. I'd have been losing it.
56:35
I am dreading the day where my
56:39
injury. I am dreading it so much because
56:43
you know me, I'm. I will try to stay calm so that
56:47
they don't freak out, but I will
56:51
Yeah, yeah. This was one of those scenarios
56:53
where I would have been questioning if stitches were
56:56
needed, but at the same time, do
57:01
Honestly, it looked like it could have used stitches, though
57:05
it was. It was bad.
57:07
I'm just not looking forward to that in my own life.
57:09
And then all of a sudden we see footage of Kody running through
57:12
the house. Oh no, I left the steaks on the
57:14
grill. So yeah, of course he was
57:17
grilling and the steaks were left on.
57:19
He goes, there were inch and a
57:24
were cooked through. You know, I was playing Mr. Mom
57:27
and Doctor and, you know, doing all that at once.
57:30
They're completely solid, like
57:36
I also thought here you couldn't
57:39
kids to go check on the stakes or with that many people
57:44
around, somebody couldn't have come and said the stakes are
57:47
still on dad or anything at all.
57:50
Yeah, it just seems to speak to the chaos of the entire
57:54
situation. So he's occupied with taking
57:55
care of his child, forgets about the stakes.
57:58
And, yeah, none of the other kids, including the teenagers,
58:04
about it. I mean, they must have all been
58:07
preoccupied. Moms are gone.
58:08
OK, So the moms are gone. Chaos ensues.
58:10
This is what happens at the households.
58:12
You know, when mom is gone, nothing is normal.
58:15
Nothing is operating as it should.
58:17
He makes the comment about playing Mr. Mom and Doctor and
58:30
Mom. You mean a father?
58:33
But you know what? Hey, you know.
58:36
And as usual, we get a seamless transition to the wives arriving
58:46
the hotel, Robyn tells us that she brought Solomon with her
58:49
because he doesn't sleep without her and she's still
58:52
breastfeeding. This becomes a theme in her life
58:58
they're old enough to drive. It's ridiculous.
59:00
I didn't even notice his age or his size until later in the
59:05
episode. But yes, Solomon is with because
59:11
He still sleeps with her. He can't sleep without her.
59:15
Well, she doesn't say can't. She says he doesn't sleep
59:19
without her and she's still breastfeeding.
59:21
I have nothing against breastfeeding and continuing to
59:27
breastfeed as long as you can. It's great for the baby.
59:31
You're not going to hear anything about that from me.
59:34
It's great for your 12 year old apparently.
59:37
Yeah, but to not be able to take a night away from your child
59:44
because of it when they're at this age is a little bizarre.
59:49
And to still be sleeping with a child at this age, it's not
59:57
setting your child up for success.
1:00:00
It's weird. It gets really weird at a
1:00:03
certain point, and it makes me wonder, is he sleeping in bed
1:00:06
with her and Kody then while Kody's there?
1:00:09
Because he must be. So yeah.
1:00:12
Well, like I said, at this point, little Saul has his
1:00:16
learner's permit, so it's a little jarring.
1:00:18
I couldn't quite tell how old he was.
1:00:20
So this is they don't show him a lot in detail throughout the
1:00:24
episode until the end when they get home from the trip was when
1:00:28
I went. Holy fucking shit.
1:00:30
Solomon has had braces, had them taken off.
1:00:33
He has literally gotten his learner's permit.
1:00:35
He is going through it. He's gone through puberty and
1:00:38
he's breastfeeding and sleeping with his mother.
1:00:39
It is bizarre. He has to be at least two at
1:00:42
this point, I think just due to the timeline of them being in
1:00:46
Vegas and you know, my kids. Can you imagine Leo
1:00:50
breastfeeding my 2 1/2 year old? Can you imagine him
1:00:55
breastfeeding? I'd be concerned for your poor
1:00:59
going to be ruined. He would look me in the eye, he
1:01:02
would devil glare, and he would try to tear my nipple off just
1:01:15
Children, they get a certain age
1:01:19
and they just do things to mess with you.
1:01:21
And you can't tell me that child's not going to be biting
1:01:24
down at some point. Hey, listen, I don't know
1:01:27
anything about any of this and
1:01:31
She also has a gigantic scab on her upper lip at the interview.
1:01:39
Yeah, like. Really big.
1:01:46
Is it from a Nair incident or?
1:01:51
I don't know, but it's there. So it's weird because they show
1:01:57
the wives arriving at the hotel and it's late and it's dark,
1:02:01
and then they tell us that Solomon is with on the trip
1:02:07
and why, and that's it. So it's like they're sharing
1:02:13
with us why Saul is with just to
1:02:17
But there's no point in it because they don't show him with
1:02:20
the moms the rest of the trip.
1:02:24
didn't need to happen. It's almost an embarrassing
1:02:28
moment that they just threw in
1:02:33
it would make sense if they had to give us a reason why he's
1:02:36
with, because he's with on the
1:02:39
him in the scenes, but we don't even see him in the scenes.
1:02:43
So why did they even tell us all
1:02:47
And if they were going to say anything, why wasn't it when
1:02:49
they left? Like, why is it when they're
1:02:51
arriving at the hotel? It's very strange.
1:02:53
I. Don't know.
1:02:54
I just, I don't know. They just make all these weird
1:02:56
decisions, so. As if all the things we would be
1:02:59
concerned about with Kody being alone with his children.
1:03:01
It's not like my first place in my mind went but what about
1:03:03
baby Sol? Like certainly didn't.
1:03:06
Cross then. Yeah, it's not crossed my mind.
1:03:08
No. The next morning, the wives are
1:03:11
in the hotel lobby meeting up with Kendra, who is Robyn's
1:03:15
friend. And they're connecting with
1:03:16
Kendra because she, quote, UN quote, works in fashion, which I
1:03:20
love because I'm sure she's, I
1:03:26
Donatella Versace, but turns out, no, her name's Kendra.
1:03:29
And she's going to show them some shops, some local San
1:03:33
Francisco shops. They're going to start with a
1:03:36
boutique called Elizabeth Charles.
1:03:38
Oh, Elizabeth Charles. Oh, you missed the point that
1:03:42
Robyn had to make by saying she's a dear friend that has
1:03:45
been helping her with my sister wife's closet, which just has
1:03:49
me immediately questioning her
1:03:55
world. This is it.
1:03:57
When I said, you know, quote UN quote works in fashion, I was
1:04:00
trying to point out that I wonder if this means she works
1:04:05
at the customer service counter at Kohl's or what it is that
1:04:08
she does because based on her appearance, her aesthetic, her
1:04:12
advice having to do with my sister wife's closet where she
1:04:16
brings them what? Luckily, we don't hear much from
1:04:19
her. Thank God.
1:04:20
I'm just going to jump to a bunch of conclusions that
1:04:22
Kendra, excuse me, no conclusions jumped to.
1:04:25
We were told she works in fashion.
1:04:28
She's the person at Plato's Closet that decides if your
1:04:31
clothes are good enough or not
1:04:34
Oh no. She's the one telling you
1:04:37
there's too much wear on this pair of leggings from Express.
1:04:43
We can't take them. I can give you a dollar for
1:04:47
these sandals. Oh, we hear from Christine, and
1:04:51
Christine says that she is not
1:04:54
She does not want to go to shop after shop looking at dresses.
1:05:01
I don't blame her, especially because when we get to Elizabeth
1:05:05
Charles, the dresses, I don't know, they're all too small for
1:05:14
everybody but Robyn. Janelle agreed with Christine
1:05:18
and they joke about how the clothing sizes are going to be a
1:05:22
barrier for them. And even Meri joins in talking
1:05:24
about how there will be nothing at Elizabeth Charles that would
1:05:27
fit them. And so, you know, it's weird
1:05:30
with these couch moments and interviews when they're talking
1:05:34
about things that already happened.
1:05:35
So I'm curious if the wives, how
1:05:38
that before they went to the store versus when they arrived
1:05:41
versus after. I would assume that they
1:05:43
probably, if they heard that it was like a boutique or a
1:05:46
fashion, you know, especially with Kendra's leadership, they
1:05:49
might have known that there was going to be a size 012 kind of
1:05:52
store or something like that. A size half.
1:05:54
Excuse me. There was a girl I went to high
1:05:55
school with that literally told us that she was a size half.
1:05:59
And my friend Margaret was like,
1:06:02
And she was like, oh, is that what that means?
1:06:04
And it's like, girl, I know public education in America.
1:06:09
It is what it is. Yeah, I wouldn't want to go shop
1:06:11
to shop looking at dresses either if nothing was going to
1:06:14
fit me in the stores. So I can understand if this is a
1:06:19
hindsight interview that she would be saying that you're
1:06:23
right. And Christine says she thinks
1:06:25
they could even be snubbed for
1:06:28
going into a store like this. And then when they get to the
1:06:31
store, the wives describe the vibes of their upcoming ceremony
1:06:34
to the store manager to get help
1:06:38
And Christine says that the person was friendly.
1:06:40
The manager. I didn't catch the manager's
1:06:41
name. I don't think it matters,
1:06:43
Christine. Oh, Christine.
1:06:44
Christine. Another.
1:06:46
So many Christines in this show.
1:06:47
Yeah. And Christine Brown talks about
1:06:50
how it's nice that Robyn volunteered to try things so
1:06:53
that they could all see what it would look like not on a hanger,
1:07:00
obviously not the same shape or size or whatever.
1:07:03
So how could it even be helpful to see clothes on Robyn that
1:07:07
would be like you trying on some jeans so that I would know if
1:07:10
they would look good on me? It's ridiculous.
1:07:11
It makes no sense. We hear from Robyn on the couch
1:07:15
and she says I offered to try on anything that they would want
1:07:19
to see so that they could see it on a person.
1:07:22
As if she's some sort of martyr for offering up her services of
1:07:27
trying on all these dresses because she's such a model.
1:07:33
I would be walking out of there if I was one of these wives and
1:07:40
she said I'll try on everything, this self-centered
1:07:45
piece of shit woman. Oh girl.
1:07:49
You cannot tell me she wasn't just eating this up and didn't
1:08:00
She says that she felt bad about it.
1:08:03
OK, I'm sure you felt real bad about it.
1:08:06
I was just going to say, honey, I had such a different
1:08:08
perspective than you. I felt bad for Robyn because she
1:08:15
to hurt anybody's feelings. I have such a soft spot for
1:08:20
Robyn, you know? I I've been in a wedding party
1:08:28
parties and anyone who has been a bridesmaid knows that trying
1:08:36
everybody's a different size and they only have the dresses and
1:08:42
And then they bring out these clips and they clip you into the
1:08:49
And I just felt for everybody for having to sit there and
1:08:55
watch her play Pretty Pretty Princess and try on all these
1:08:58
dresses. And I can't believe that they
1:09:01
even went to the store and let this happen.
1:09:05
It's weird. Yeah, Well, yet again.
1:09:08
We do get Robyn trying on three different dresses at this first
1:09:12
store, and the first dress we see her trying on I'm going meh
1:09:17
doesn't mean anything to me, although you can see her calves
1:09:21
and her wrists. Which of course brings up the
1:09:25
topic of modesty. I started yawning.
1:09:27
I think I fell asleep for a minute and then I was awoken to
1:09:30
see the second dress. But I was like Oh my gosh, who
1:09:36
to describe these dresses? I really only wanted to describe
1:09:42
Did anything stand out to you? No, they were just dresses of
1:09:46
that time period. So I could make fun of them all
1:09:50
I'd want, but they're just not in style anymore.
1:09:52
So you could endlessly make fun of them.
1:09:55
She just comes out and she says, oh, felt so weird with my legs
1:10:04
So I agree, the body parts, the body parts showing.
1:10:07
Let's engage it by that. Yeah, OK.
1:10:08
Well, 'cause I think both the 1st and 2nd dress are just below
1:10:16
Quite a scandal. The second dress, however, you
1:10:25
Now, this was truly a scandal, and Janelle says it's kind of
1:10:31
shocking. It's way more skin than I've
1:10:33
ever seen. Robyn clearly doesn't get a lot
1:10:40
of sun. Those shoulders were
1:10:42
translucent. I don't know that I've ever seen
1:10:47
It looks like a dress that you would wear to the office if you
1:10:51
had an office job and had to dress in business attire.
1:10:55
Definitely doesn't look like any sort of ceremony type of dress.
1:11:00
No, almost like pencil skirt,
1:11:02
but like a full dress. And then but without the
1:11:04
shoulders. You'd have to wear some sort of
1:11:06
sweater or something to be presentable in the office,
1:11:08
honey, unless you're always dressing like a hussy at work.
1:11:12
Too tempting for those men at the office dressing like a
1:11:15
common St. whore. Right.
1:11:17
Now the third dress I do want to
1:11:20
because it was by far the most
1:11:24
When Robyn comes out of the dressing room, she's wearing
1:11:27
this pink slash purple color. What is the actual color?
1:11:32
Is it magenta hot? Pink.
1:11:35
Magenta. It's definitely like hot pink
1:11:38
meets magenta. There's a little purplish hue.
1:11:41
But this dress has these huge billowy arms.
1:11:47
Like I don't even know how to describe them other than billowy
1:11:49
arms. And it has a tight torso down to
1:11:52
the knees. It's fitted other than these
1:11:56
gigantic poufy sleeves. I would have probably worn this
1:12:00
at this time. I would have thought this was so
1:12:03
cute and fashionista and it's a dress of the times.
1:12:09
It was a bit hideous. And Robyn, of course, she's just
1:12:14
having the time of her life wearing this dress.
1:12:16
She's talking about how she wouldn't be able to do anything
1:12:18
with the big bellowy arms. She'd have to.
1:12:20
She couldn't do the dishes because the sleeves would just
1:12:23
get in everything and blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:12:25
And she's just having such a great time trying on these
1:12:27
dresses and having everybody look at her.
1:12:30
Because you're going to be doing
1:12:32
that's supposed to be for your
1:12:34
OK. You're so funny.
1:12:36
You're just so funny, Robyn. My God.
1:12:40
Hysterical. Yeah.
1:12:41
Everybody but Meri loves this dress.
1:12:44
And Meri even says, will I be kicked out of the group or
1:12:48
disowned from the group if I say
1:12:51
I didn't like it. I'm Team Meri on this one.
1:12:55
I did not. Maybe in 2013 or 15, whenever
1:12:59
this was, maybe I would have been a little less critical
1:13:02
because, you know, at the time I
1:13:05
questionable fashion choices myself.
1:13:07
But I was Team Meri on this. I was like, burn it, throw it
1:13:10
away. No, thank you.
1:13:11
I always ward weird stuff so I
1:13:15
can't say anything. I would have worn this.
1:13:18
After we wrap up recording, you're like, I have to go to the
1:13:20
closet and throw it away before Chris sees it.
1:13:22
Oh my God. I pull it out.
1:13:25
Oh boy. As the wives wrap up their time
1:13:28
at this Elizabeth Charles shop, Janelle says it was actually
1:13:32
more fun than she thought it would be.
1:13:33
And Christine says she didn't see anything that she would like
1:13:36
to wear at their non vow renewal
1:13:40
So they didn't have any direct
1:13:44
want to wear. But I think Robyn may have been
1:13:47
inspired somewhere deep, deep inside of those billowy sleeves.
1:13:51
Everything she tried on was business type attire and many
1:13:57
ladies out there will know that during this time period
1:14:02
business casual was the look. We would go to the club in
1:14:07
business casual. That was the style and that's
1:14:12
exactly what they were trying on.
1:14:14
So it wasn't dressy enough stuff
1:14:19
It felt just everyday close to
1:14:26
what she was even trying on. It didn't feel special, felt
1:14:32
like something I would have worn
1:14:35
weekend or to the salon as a hairdresser as I was during this
1:14:39
time. The outfits were things I would
1:14:42
have just worn on a day-to-day
1:14:44
To be honest, it was weird to me
1:14:49
and they probably were just able to film there and that's part
1:14:52
of the reason it was chosen. Maybe I don't buy that the
1:14:55
friend picked this store for them to go to and the fact that
1:15:00
they picked a store with sizes
1:15:08
This episode feels like it's got
1:15:12
whatnot, which we've been talking about this season.
1:15:14
This is our first season where
1:15:16
Maybe it's not our first season,
1:15:20
been beating us over the head with these production driven
1:15:22
storylines and activities. It's just annoying because when
1:15:26
you actually stop and think about it, it's like fuck this
1:15:27
shit. And I agree with you that those
1:15:30
dresses were everyday look except for the fuchsia billowy
1:15:33
sleeve. If you wore that like on a
1:15:35
normal weekend, I'd be like, honey, no.
1:15:39
I might have. I might have.
1:15:41
And you know where I would have worn it out to?
1:15:43
My tiny little podunk town and
1:15:46
at me. And they did many times.
1:15:48
I got stared at. Who does this girl think she is?
1:15:52
Who does she think she is? Also, I have to say, whenever I
1:15:59
was in a wedding party in my younger days, people were very
1:16:05
mindful to call ahead to the shops and ask what sizes they
1:16:10
held because people are of all
1:16:15
So the fact that you wouldn't,
1:16:19
driving to another city to go shopping, call ahead and confirm
1:16:24
that they have plus sizes, I don't buy it.
1:16:28
No, it's definitely teed up because as we'll get to in the
1:16:31
second part of this episode now,
1:16:34
whiplash here. We're going to take a little
1:16:36
break. We're going to bring you the
1:16:38
second part of this episode on
1:16:39
There's a lot happening here in the second-half of this
1:16:43
episode. We do get to see the other wives
1:16:48
up to the shop owner that they're coming.
1:16:50
So this is definitely contrived in ways that are more than just
1:16:55
our dear friend Kendra suggesting a shop that we go
1:16:58
visit. Right?
1:16:58
We'll get some further drama with Kody and the kids.
1:17:01
We're going to meet some of their Las Vegas neighbors.
1:17:03
We've got plenty of things coming up on Part 2 of this
1:17:07
episode. Coming to you on Thursday.
1:17:09
Kimber, is there anything you'd like for our listeners at home
1:17:15
Anything that you'd like to give them?
1:17:17
Any fashion advice? Fuchsia goes with every skin
1:17:22
tone, ladies. Fuchsia goes with every skin
1:17:26
tone and Robyn proved it. Pasty see through skin goes with
1:17:36
Fuchsia goes. I have to get online immediately
1:17:43
immediately. Immediately, actually.
1:17:44
Probably would look good on me. Oh my gosh, who am I kidding?
1:17:48
Actually, fuchsia does make everybody look tan, so yeah,
1:17:52
except for Robyn. We'll see you on the flip side.