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  Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight. The pain for the Liberals is about to get
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  Speaker 2: worse than nationals are about to smack them. Plus, Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump's former spokesman hits back at people blaming Trump for
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  Speaker 2: the liberals wipeout, And Indonesia's president releases a tape of
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi now buttering him up.
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  Speaker 3: I have a request for you, Yes, go ahead, and
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  Speaker 3: I want you?
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  Speaker 4: Is that here?
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  Speaker 2: Also tonight, Vladimir Putin gives a tour of his cold home.
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  Speaker 2: It admits he wants to hit people. We know that already,
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  Speaker 2: but first you I've had almost enough of the who's
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  Speaker 2: the last, who's the leading horse race? Call, of this
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  Speaker 2: debarkle of an election. Hey, the Liberals got smashed, So
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  Speaker 2: let me deal with today's news. In just thirty seconds,
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  Speaker 2: Green's leader and a band looks like losing his seat.
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  Speaker 2: Teal Scoldmanique Ryan looks like just hanging on teals. MP zo'
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  Speaker 2: daniels is losing her seat, and the Liberal stone of
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  Speaker 2: a clue how to handle being thrashed? Is the new
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  Speaker 2: leader going to be Treasury spokesman Angus Taylor When he
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  Speaker 2: was the genius who decided to go to this selection
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  Speaker 2: promising higher taxes than labor, or whether it be deputy
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  Speaker 2: leader Susan Lee, who has he yet shown much leadership
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  Speaker 2: or authority, but at least is a woman. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: So excuse me if I think we've got better things
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  Speaker 2: to talk about like this. We've re elected the Albanizi
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  Speaker 2: government with a massive majority, but this country's big challengers
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  Speaker 2: have not gone away, and labor in this election campaign
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  Speaker 2: did not offer a single policy to fix them. It
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  Speaker 2: just promised a blizzard of handouts, but not a plan
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  Speaker 2: to pay for them, not a plan to actually make
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  Speaker 2: this richer. So tonight I want to show you a
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  Speaker 2: frightening contrast. Well, it might be an inspiring one for you.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that I hope would make this labor government think, gee,
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  Speaker 2: we better get our skates on, because our future is
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  Speaker 2: not being made here. It's being made in China. Now,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of even smart people think, oh, China, that's
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  Speaker 2: just where cheap workers make cheap stuff for rich foreigners
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  Speaker 2: like us. Now, one of those very smart ignoramuses is
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  Speaker 2: US Vice President JD. Vance.
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  Speaker 4: Just the other day, we borrow money from Chinese peasants
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  Speaker 4: to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.
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  Speaker 2: Peasants. The Chinese are just peasants. Here is one peasant
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  Speaker 2: in China paying for a drink without having cash or
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  Speaker 2: even a phone, just a hand.
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  Speaker 5: It just shows how I had channas in terms of technology.
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  Speaker 2: Now even genuinely smart guys, genuinely smart John Kadogan is
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  Speaker 2: the car from the Car Expert website. Check it out
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  Speaker 2: for the China was more like, you know, a cheap
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  Speaker 2: labor kind of place, nothing to make Australians feel ashamed of.
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  Speaker 2: You know that we're backwards instead, until of course, he
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  Speaker 2: visited one of China's massive new solar panel factories.
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  Speaker 6: I had a generally cheap, nasty impression of Chinese manufacturing
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  Speaker 6: until recently when I actually went there to check it out.
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  Speaker 6: The Rizin production base in Nanhai, China. This massive factory
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  Speaker 6: beneath this solar array is roughly one million square meters,
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  Speaker 6: which is around about one hundred football fields. It has
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  Speaker 6: roughly fifteen thousand employees, of which more than one thousand
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  Speaker 6: and professional propeller heads work actively in R and D.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's a little tip I'll get back to later.
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  Speaker 2: This one company hires one thousand engineers and scientists just
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  Speaker 2: in research and development. Now this factory is full of robots.
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  Speaker 2: There's not many jobs in the green industry, and it's
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  Speaker 2: extremely high tech, producing solar cells the diameter of a
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  Speaker 2: hair and then assembling them into solar panels, and so
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  Speaker 2: many of them. This single Chinese factory in one year
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  Speaker 2: produces the equivalent of a third of all the solar
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  Speaker 2: panels Australia has deployed. And what really should seam us
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  Speaker 2: is that an advanced solar cell called perk peerc was
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  Speaker 2: first developed in Australia by Professor Martin Green at the
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  Speaker 2: University of New South Wales, but was put into production
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  Speaker 2: in China, especially by some of his Chinese students. And
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  Speaker 2: China now produces almost eighty percent of all the solar
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  Speaker 2: panels in the world, and that perk cell developed here
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  Speaker 2: is using ninety percent of them. But what do we
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  Speaker 2: get out of it now? Yes, Anthony Albanezi has said
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  Speaker 2: he'll now spend one billion dollars of your money on
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  Speaker 2: a scheme to make solar panels here.
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  Speaker 4: The Hunter Valley has been the powerhouse for New South
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  Speaker 4: Wales for the last century in energy and export market
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  Speaker 4: will continue to be that for centuries to come. There's
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  Speaker 4: no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 7: The people standing behind us will never be out of
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  Speaker 7: work because what they're doing is training for the jobs
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  Speaker 7: of today and the future.
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  Speaker 2: That's money that's going down the drain. It's too little
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  Speaker 2: and far too late. The solar ship long sailed, and
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  Speaker 2: the problem is much bigger. Why does Australia not have
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  Speaker 2: one world famous in industrial brand. We can think of things,
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  Speaker 2: we can't develop them. Sweden gave us Volvo Haika as well,
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  Speaker 2: the Netherlands gave us Phillips, Japan, Sony, Toyota, so many more,
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  Speaker 2: Germany Volkswagen, Siemens, South Korea, Samsung, Kia. But Australia, what
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  Speaker 2: do we make? And you just look at our top
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  Speaker 2: three exports to China, iron or gas and other minerals.
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  Speaker 2: We give them the minerals and the energy to transform
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  Speaker 2: them and make power to actually just then go make
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  Speaker 2: the stuff for us because we can't now in China,
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  Speaker 2: these so called peasants have used this stuff to also
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  Speaker 2: build a lot for themselves. For instance, one of their
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  Speaker 2: highest and longest suspension bridges in the world. And what's more,
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  Speaker 2: it built that one ahead of time, and almost all
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  Speaker 2: Australia's big green schemes in particular blow their own deadlines
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  Speaker 2: or budgets. China also builds half the world's commercial ships.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's building the fastest growing navy. It's also now
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  Speaker 2: our third biggest supplier of kars are no longer just
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  Speaker 2: cheap ones either. Just this week at the Shanghai Car Show,
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  Speaker 2: car maker BYD was showing off an electric car so
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  Speaker 2: advanced that it could go from not to one hundred
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  Speaker 2: millimeters an hour in just two seconds and leap over
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  Speaker 2: potholes and even road sparks and don't know where we
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  Speaker 2: want that, all with computers. Just unbelievable technology. And again,
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  Speaker 2: this company employs our one hundred and ten thousand engineers.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't provide a fraction of that if we had
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  Speaker 2: to all up. China now has nearly nine eighteen million,
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  Speaker 2: eighteen million engineers, including half the engineers working around the
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  Speaker 2: world in artificial intelligence. Engineers build a future, and China boats.
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  Speaker 2: Its engineers are better than Australia's and crack the problem
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  Speaker 2: house couldn't handle an extracting nickel and so doing that
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  Speaker 2: it's helped Indonesia, with Chinese investments to become the world's
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  Speaker 2: biggest supplier of nickel and wiped out our own nickel industry.
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  Speaker 2: Now what's even more alarming, of course, is that China's
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  Speaker 2: so called peasants there are also the exclusive suppliers now
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  Speaker 2: of heavy rare earths, which are vital for making things
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  Speaker 2: like magnets that are essential for radar targeting and electronic systems.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the catch. Every one of Americas and Australia's
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  Speaker 2: F thirty five strike fighters need about four hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty kilograms of those particular rare earths from China. Is
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  Speaker 2: that allowed enough warning for you? But to the engineers,
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  Speaker 2: this contrast really gets me. As far as I can tell,
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  Speaker 2: no Australian companies even one thousand people in research and development,
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  Speaker 2: and we are desperately short of engineers, especially to make
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  Speaker 2: our future. And here we come to an economic and
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  Speaker 2: political issue and a cultural one that the Albenizi government
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  Speaker 2: really needs to throw away outside illogical blinkers and fix.
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  Speaker 2: Just for a start, we've got so much red tape,
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  Speaker 2: so much green tape, and so many taxes that is
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  Speaker 2: to struggle even getting produce off the ground. I was
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  Speaker 2: living in Hong Kong, the head of John Holland told
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  Speaker 2: me then some years ago, I said, what advice would
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  Speaker 2: you give to an Australian engineer? Said leave the country.
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  Speaker 2: But on top of that we lack engineers. Science and
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  Speaker 2: technology just seems to be too brain hurty for many
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  Speaker 2: Australian kids, and just last year the Australian Academy of
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  Speaker 2: Technological Sciences and Engineering complained that only half our kids
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  Speaker 2: in year ten met the standard for science literacy. And
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  Speaker 2: when the bright ones do go to university too often,
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  Speaker 2: it seems to be a dumbing down, an ideological dumbing down.
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  Speaker 2: Too much Politics Minus University even tried to deduct Marx
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  Speaker 2: from an engineering student for not including an acknowledgment of
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  Speaker 2: country and their assignment. Melbourne University hired fake Aboriginally Bruce
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  Speaker 2: Pasco're teaching a fake scientific discipline that he just made up,
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal agriculture, and the University of Technology Sydney has even
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  Speaker 2: hired as a science communicator Naomi koe Belich, a scientist
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  Speaker 2: calling herself a biracial, bisexual, bimbo biologist. She actually got
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  Speaker 2: a government grant for a drag show to supposedly teach
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  Speaker 2: science and preach about global warming.
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  Speaker 7: Why not sign up for enjoying drag, enjoying art, enjoying
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  Speaker 7: jokes and humor, and stay engaged in the climate conversation
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  Speaker 7: at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Now, these are not signs of a country serious about
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  Speaker 2: science and engineering building the future. You think China funds
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  Speaker 2: that kind of nonsense. I mean, China is so pro
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  Speaker 2: science and so pro engineering that it's of course got
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  Speaker 2: nuclear power. Our government is so superstitious it bans it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's no surprise at less than nine percent of
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  Speaker 2: Australian university graduates have an engineering qualification. That's about the
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  Speaker 2: sixth lowest rate in the OECD. And it's also bad
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  Speaker 2: that we have to import now most of our engineers,
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  Speaker 2: sixty percent of our engineers were born overseas. We import
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  Speaker 2: our engineers, but we really need to import a culture
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  Speaker 2: of engineering our future, and that is the huge challenge
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  Speaker 2: now for the Albanezi government. Actually, it's not quite right
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  Speaker 2: to say that the vote count today was boring. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I did take forgive me, I did take some
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  Speaker 2: guilty pleasure seeing a friend of mine, former Liberal MP
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  Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, overtake the TLMP for his former Melbourne seed
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  Speaker 2: of Goldstein. So Daniel who parted as a winner on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday and declared victory before the postal votes were actually counted.
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  Speaker 2: Votes that count swung so hard to Wilson that is
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  Speaker 2: in the ascertain winner. So enjoy Daniels Hubris.
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  Speaker 7: It's been a hard campaignting s in Goldstein, Hope Winds.
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  Speaker 8: The Liberal Party threw everything out us guys, everything, and
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  Speaker 8: we are standing here to celebrate.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a small pleasure for a many Conservatives because
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  Speaker 2: the Liberals really are a total mess. Angus Taylor was
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  Speaker 2: the shadow Treasure would normally expect to take over as
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  Speaker 2: leader after petered up and lost his seat, but the
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  Speaker 2: anger against him. Taylor is blaming for the disastrous promise
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  Speaker 2: to ban public servants working from home, but he claims
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  Speaker 2: that was in his call. That another disaster sure was
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  Speaker 2: the liberals crazy decision not to offer bigger tax cuts
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  Speaker 2: than labor. That alone means that Taylor, if he does
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  Speaker 2: become leader, it will be a punching bag for labor.
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  Speaker 2: But does the other main leadership contender, Susan Lay, have
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  Speaker 2: the authority and wait to lead. I mean, we need
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  Speaker 2: to see those characteristics come out. But at least is
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  Speaker 2: a woman, I guess but there's today more revelations about
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  Speaker 2: that policy disaster that helped to cause this liberal catastrophe.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Claire Armstrong, National political editor of the
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  Speaker 2: Herald Sun and the Daily Telegraph. Claire, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for your time. Now. I hear some of the
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  Speaker 2: liberal left say this disaster approves done, went too far
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  Speaker 2: for the right and this is what comes and listening
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  Speaker 2: to sky News. But what I am seeing is that
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  Speaker 2: this had nothing to do with ideology and almost everything
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  Speaker 2: to do with another eye in competence. Take us through
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  Speaker 2: the worst examples that you have today uncovered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Look, I spent quite a bit of the last five
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  Speaker 9: weeks on the road, almost half of it on Peter
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  Speaker 9: Dutton's campaign, and sort of started to detect even then
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  Speaker 9: that things weren't as well oiled of a machine as
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  Speaker 9: you would expect when a party's had three years to
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  Speaker 9: prepare for an election. And what sort of come to
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  Speaker 9: light in the last few days is it wasn't just
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  Speaker 9: at the very end that messaging was a problem, but
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  Speaker 9: at the very beginning the development of policies was really
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  Speaker 9: late and rushed. For example, it was only decided a
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  Speaker 9: few hours before Peter Dutton actually announced his plan for
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  Speaker 9: a gas reserve on the East Coast in the budget
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  Speaker 9: reply just before the election was called, only decided that
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  Speaker 9: he would put that in the speech quite late, so
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  Speaker 9: much so that it left his senior minister or shadow
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  Speaker 9: ministers scrambling to tell the gas companies that it was coming.
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  Speaker 9: They were hanging up on Susan McDonald, who was the
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  Speaker 9: Resources spokeswoman. They were so furious at sort of being
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  Speaker 9: let in on this so late. It was changing as
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  Speaker 9: they were announcing it effectively. And not only that, but
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  Speaker 9: the modeling that Peter Dutton then got hammered on for
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  Speaker 9: about twelve days to produce during the election, well the
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  Speaker 9: final version of it. Some in HQ in the Liberals
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  Speaker 9: weren't able to access or understand what was going on
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  Speaker 9: with it because the people behind that modeling, Frontier Economics,
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  Speaker 9: one of them was overseas and turned out to be
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  Speaker 9: uncontactable for several days. So at every turn, just in
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  Speaker 9: that policy alone, you can see there's this cascading kind
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  Speaker 9: of issue of organization policy development and clearly not a
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  Speaker 9: very well staged out plan for why you would be
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  Speaker 9: announcing that policy at that time and then how you
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  Speaker 9: plan to sell it to the public. And that is
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  Speaker 9: literally just one example.
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  Speaker 2: I'm laughing, but I shouldn't because it's just a scandal.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so many people devoted so much of their
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  Speaker 2: lives to a Liberal win, and this is what happens.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, really now, Claire, people are blaming Angus Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: saying that, you know, why should he now be leader
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  Speaker 2: when he's party to this stuff. I mean, like that
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  Speaker 2: decision to not match or better beat Labour's miserly tax
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  Speaker 2: cuts and instead offer you know that cutting petrol exos
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  Speaker 2: for one year, that seems to have been an impulse decision.
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  Speaker 2: What was his role in this whole disaster?
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  Speaker 9: Well, what was sort of learning now is that definitely
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  Speaker 9: it was his decision to immediately not want to support
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  Speaker 9: Labour's tax cuts sort of. They launched this argument the
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  Speaker 9: Liberals that it was too little, too late, but then
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  Speaker 9: the delay in actually coming up with their own version,
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  Speaker 9: this temporary tax offset essentially allowed Labor to cast the
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  Speaker 9: Liberals as being in favor of higher taxes. So in
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  Speaker 9: terms of that timing between saying you weren't going to
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  Speaker 9: support Labor and then coming up with your own plan,
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  Speaker 9: definitely Angus Taylor had a seat at that table. What's
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  Speaker 9: a bit more complicated that we've learning now, And I've
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  Speaker 9: had some sources tell me that essentially Angus Taylor was
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  Speaker 9: in favor of doing something more ambitious, more along the
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  Speaker 9: lines of indexing tax rates for income earners. But essentially
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  Speaker 9: it was actually mister Darton and the people around him
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  Speaker 9: that got cold feet there, and ultimately that idea was
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  Speaker 9: scrapped within forty eight hours of the Liberal launch and
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  Speaker 9: the idea of a temporary offset came into the play.
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  Speaker 9: But you know, that's just another example where they clearly
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  Speaker 9: wasn't the staging and the thinking through of policy development.
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  Speaker 9: You kind of have to wonder what was going on
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  Speaker 9: for three years?
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  Speaker 2: Clear as you say they had three years, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not a surprise the selection was held now there was
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  Speaker 2: only one more week it could have been held before
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  Speaker 2: that was it? I mean to act like it came
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  Speaker 2: out of the blue. It's stunning, good Heavens policy. But
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  Speaker 2: from what you just said there, who's supposed to blame
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  Speaker 2: Is it Dutton himself? Was he a control freak that
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  Speaker 2: just simply got it wrong.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think it's right to cast Stutton as a
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  Speaker 9: control freak exactly it's pretty clear that he ran a
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  Speaker 9: very tight ship. He had a very loyal, small team
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  Speaker 9: around him that he implicitly trusted. And my kind of
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  Speaker 9: broader view is that maybe that narrow focused and that
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  Speaker 9: narrow inner circle. You know, if the group think is
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  Speaker 9: off then and you've got no other external kind of
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  Speaker 9: voices that you're listening to telling you that this is
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  Speaker 9: a problem, then it's a bit of a collective failure there.
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  Speaker 9: But ultimately, with Peter Dutton being the leader, and I
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  Speaker 9: mean you have to say on Saturday night he did
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  Speaker 9: own the disastrous result. But I think what I've seen
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  Speaker 9: over the last three years is I've often heard shadow
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  Speaker 9: cabinet ministers say that well they feel like they get
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  Speaker 9: a fair hearing with Dutton, even if he then goes
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  Speaker 9: his own way.
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  Speaker 10: But my sort of thought there is, well.
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  Speaker 9: If he's continually going against you and going his own way,
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  Speaker 9: who is he listening to? It sounds like it's you know,
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  Speaker 9: his chief of staff, his comms directed some of those
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  Speaker 9: people in his inner circle and the party and in
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  Speaker 9: the Parliament, and that maybe all of their read on
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  Speaker 9: what the situation was was off. I mean, overall, I
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  Speaker 9: would say this was an election that they felt they
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  Speaker 9: could win by letting Labor lose, and unfortunately they didn't
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  Speaker 9: factor in that Labor is quite a good campaigning machine
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  Speaker 9: and they essentially just ran them down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look, what a ridiculous strategy though, just relying on
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  Speaker 2: someone else to flop instead of grabbing it. Clear. Look,
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  Speaker 2: what you've just described in your office is so different
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  Speaker 2: to how Bob Hawk ran and did it really well.
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  Speaker 2: He had professional grumps in his office, you know, Peter
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  Speaker 2: Barron and Jeff Walsh and people like that, who were
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  Speaker 2: just they didn't put up with any bull and if
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  Speaker 2: they didn't like an idea, they'd say so. And he
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  Speaker 2: had a healthy enough ego to be able to cope
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  Speaker 2: with it. Just work brilliantly, Claire Armstrong, great story in
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  Speaker 2: the papers today. Thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 2: Just before we go to the break, we got an
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  Speaker 2: insight today from Indonesia's President, former General Praboo Subianto. How
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albinizi does the promise the answer lots of sweet talk,
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  Speaker 2: so be had for some reason decided to put our
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Prime minister on speakerphone when he when Syband to ring
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  Speaker 2: him up to say congratulations with the win and then
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  Speaker 2: post their talk on social media.
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  Speaker 3: I have a request for you, yes, go ahead, and
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  Speaker 3: I want you and I want you?
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  Speaker 2: Is that here?
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  Speaker 11: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I want Indonesia to put my first visit.
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  Speaker 9: Indonesia is an unbreakable one.
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  Speaker 2: Who isn't a social media influencer these days, even a
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  Speaker 2: president turning the very private into very public. But after
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the break, who are these liberal left wingers blaming the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: right and blame the sky News US for the liberals
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: disaster that Canavan after this? Now, to be fair to Anglis,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Tayory wants to be the new liberal leader. I have
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a very good authority that he had other plans, more
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: ambitious tax reforms that he was hot to trot with,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: but again overridden by the man at the top. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: that's unfortunate. Now some on the liberal parties left don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: yet understand what strife they are in now. They are
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: saying that this defeat shows the Liberals when too much
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to the right and the party now should turn left.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And I've heard Green say the same and blame the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: liberals for even talking too much on sky News like
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: it's our fault. They come on here, it's our fault.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Liberals will never talk to conservative media. Oh no, I
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: mean seriously, turbule stuff, not that any of them can
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: actually tell us what those terrible right wing policies of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton really were. His promise of higher taxes was
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that one We suggested that his spendethon hiding this defense policy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: They caught this nonsense today from a Liberal Party vice
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: president also with the left, saying she wasn't sure if
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the coalition should still keep arguing for nuclear power.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: This is a technology question, and I would like to see,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: you know, the climate denying ideology step out of the
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: place so that we can solve a technology question.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Climate denying, I mean, what exactly is anyone denying? As
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: far as I can tell, I'm rarely denying that the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: renewable revolution of the Labor Party is working. That's what
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: we're denying. Look at Spain and Portugal for our future
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that didn't seem too good. That's what we're denying. Trying
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to det know that the liberals actually promised nuclear power plants,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: by the way, precisely to cut emissions. They're not denying
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: global warming. But here's what these chances are ignoring the nationals.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: The nationals, they're ignoring their Liberal partners in this coalition.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: The Nationals are much more conservative than the Liberals and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: they didn't lose any seats in the lower House. The Liberals, though,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: will they end up losing maybe eight or even more,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and that means the Nationals will be left with a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: higher proportion of coalition MPs and so should also get
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: more people than the coalition's shadow ministry to reflect that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And how would that then work out if the Liberals
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: went left? And there's all these Nationals saying what joining
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: me is our Tuesday regular commentator National Senator Matt Canavan.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: The former Resources missed that. Matt, There's so much there
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to unpack, but let's start with this. Should the Nationals
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: get more positions in shadow cabinet?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Well, the Nationals party should get the number of for
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: members of the Cabinet of the ministry that they deserve
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: based on the proportion of the party room. That's how
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it is always worked between the two parties. Now, because
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of the unfortunate results of the weekend that that proportion
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of the party room will grow to something like thirty
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: percent from twenty percent. And so the answer the question
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: is is yes, that's the way that it should work.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Of course, that is also a merit based situation. As
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you say, National's Party has not lost any Lower House seats.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Looks like we unfortunately have lost our deputy leader in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this deput leader of the party the set of the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: parent Davy. But you know that the Liberal Party had
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: a very unfortunate night and I don't Yeah, I don't
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: quite probably get onto it, but I don't quite understand
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the logic of some in the Liberal Party who seem
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to be thinking that the Nationals Party shouldn't deserve the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: same amount of say, given we have actually been successful,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: maybe there's something we could pass on.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Worth it's even an argument about it. I mean, seriously,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: run through a few other quick ones. Should Nationals leader
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: David Little Proud quitts the Nationals leader when he was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: part of the leadership of this disastrous campaign.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Well, look, despite the National Party's results, obviously we're very
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: disappointed we didn't do better. Given the economic environment, people
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: are in the cost of living crisis, so we don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: want to let mediocrity be a substitute of success. We
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: did not do well enough, as you know. And I'm
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: always interested in the policy, not the personnel. I don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: really care who leads the party. I do want to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: see us though. And the ridiculous idea too, that we
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: can take this country to nein zeromissions by twenty fifty.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: It is making everybody poorer. Were're probably going to lead
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: leave the next generation poorer than the current generation. Something's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: never happened in Australian history. So look, that's what I'm
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: focused on. Any leader that can do that, can deliver
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that and deliver a fighting chance for us. If we
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: don't fight, we don't have a chance. Right, Let's fight.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. My biggest disappint the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: past few years is I felt like we shirked from
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a fight. We shirked from the battle, and ultimately I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: think you get found out when that happens, and we
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: really really found out on Saturday night.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't win an argument if you don't even
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: put it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: One speaking of exactly the point you've just made, one
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: liberal senator today, Maria Kovachik from Victoria. Of course, Victoria
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: says your nuclear policy has to go. Get this, not
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: because we don't actually need nuclear she didn't make that argument,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: but because it's not popular. Matt, what a leader this
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: woman is evilecent.
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: It's my view that the nuclear power policy that we
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: have should go into The Australian public has spoke very
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: very clearly on Saturday and we need to listen to that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Your response, Bet, just reject this idea that somehow politics
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: is like selling hands and what we need to do
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is do some market research to work out what type
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of colors pastel, what type of handles, type of products
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that need to be made out of do they need
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to be carbon neutral? And we work out with our
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: target audience and we change them in that regard. I mean,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: politics is not like that. It's not like business. Politics
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: is about a mission, a purpose you've got to establish
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in a spree de corps among your people. And the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: biggest problem we've had, I think in the last here
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: or two is there's not been enough pride and passion
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of being a Liberal or a National's member. I've felt
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it from our own volunteers and members. I felt it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: myself on the campaign and I was honestly counting the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: hours down till it ends. And that's not the attitude
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you need. You want to go in there with hunger.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: You want to go into the football field wanting to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: beat the other side and having a real desire to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: win because you're going to do something better, not just
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: become a minister or get a higher pay packet. That's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not what this is about. And we need we need,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: if nothing else, right now, nothing else. We've got some
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: time here to think about it. We need to kick
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the pulses out. We've got everything wrong anyway, so why
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: are we even listening to them in.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: The first place.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And secondly, the central question we need to ask ourselves
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: is what do we think we need to do to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: save Australia. Not what we need to do to save
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the party, not what we need to save our own seats,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Not what we need to do to save our prospects
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of becoming a minister and having the word honorable in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: front of us. What do we genuinely believe we need
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to do to save this nation from a generation of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: poverty and decline? Which is the path we're on right now?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: That should be the only question we ask I'm not
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that interested in worrying about what's popular right now. Let's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: worry about what's right and then and then we can
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: work out what are the popular ways, What are the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: best ways to argue for what is the right thing
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: for this country?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I think too, when you're choosing a direction or
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a leader, think where the country is going to be
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: in three years done and there will be three more
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: years of a renewables energy project that's a really falling
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to bits boy. By then the public, I suspect, will
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: really be open to more open to an argument about
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: what power source will deliver the power that they need
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: at a price and reliability that they need to. Finally,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: did the coalition go too far to the right that
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: some liberals are saying.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Look, I must have missed these right wing policies that
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: were announced. It was it was a bit of a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: different campaign with all the public holidays. Maybe I missed
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: our decision to go to go tough on biological men
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: competing against women in sports following the UK ruling. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: don't think we did anything with that. I must have
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: missed the US jumping on the shocking blackout that occurred
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in Spain and Portugal. We did nothing on that. We
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: maintained that zero missions by twenty fifty. I mean, I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: think what's really important here those people who say we
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: need to go to the left, or we went too
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: far the rights and now we go to the left.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Stop with the jargon. I mean, nobody out there in
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the real world really thinks like that. I mean, be specifics,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: be specific, like tell me tell me yeah, like activists
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: do how people do. But the average swinging riter doesn't
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: think they're left or right. They just you know, they
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: want to know what you're going to do to make
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the country better. So tell me be specific.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what do you want?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say need to go
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to the left? Do we need to adopt a need
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: zero emissions by twenty forty because we already had it
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: by twenty fifty and that failed. That's failed twice now.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So if we're talking about policies that have failed politically,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that one has, Matt, what about do we.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Want to go ninety percent? They should name the policy.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: What do you want? What should name that dread thing
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: will work? They should name that dreadful right wing policy
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: went to the election with I didn't know them, and
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: then also demonstrate why that policy costs them the votes,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: because as far as I can see, sharing competence is
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: what done it. Matt Keneman, thank you so much d
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: for your time. After the break, Donald Trump's forms spokesman,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and why people are blaming who do blame Donald Trump
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: for the liberals defeat, are just making excuses for losers.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Now I should correct myself that liberal senator that showed
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you saying, oh, we shouldn't go nuclear power because people
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: don't like it, never mind that we actually need it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: There is no alternative. She's actually from New South Wales,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: which is an indictment on the New South Wales Liberal Party.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: But honestly, the way the liberal left is metastasized there
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: is a real shocker. There's a lot of winging today
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: from our arts industry because big bad Donald Trump has
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: called time on a bit of a ripoff.
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: All First, the Orange Man kills the coalition at the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: polls now is killing Australia's film industry. Trump yesterday said
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: films made by foreigners, including Australia, would now be hit
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: by a one hundred percent tariff.
• 31:56
  Speaker 13: Our film industry has been decimated by other countries taken
• 32:01
  Speaker 13: them out, and also by incompetence. Like in Los Angeles,
• 32:04
  Speaker 13: the governor is a grossly incompetent man. He's just allowed
• 32:07
  Speaker 13: it to be taken away from Hollywood. Hollywood doesn't do
• 32:11
  Speaker 13: very much of that business. They have the Nay sign
• 32:14
  Speaker 13: and everything's good, but they don't do very much.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Now it really is going to hurt us. I mean
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you think of all the American films that we make,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you the Wolverine ones and some of the Mission Impossible,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: so many. There's a few being filmed right now, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: our Screen Producers Association said, oh whoa, this is really unfair,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: even unacceptable.
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: Australia is the fifth most desired destination for American film producers.
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: They love coming here and that's because we have good facilities,
• 32:51
  Speaker 14: good infrastructure, all of those sorts of things. So if
• 32:54
  Speaker 14: they couldn't come here and they had to produce their
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: films in Hollywood, the would go up, so the costs
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: of the films would go up, so the cost to
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: consumers would go up. Everyone's a loser. An unacceptable decision
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: by Trump. I understand he's talking to the industry in
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: the US today. Maybe they'll try to talk some sense
• 33:17
  Speaker 14: into him.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And that's Minister Tony Burke. If you tried to make
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: out like it was a moral issue. He's declared that
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: nobody should be under any doubt that we will be
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: standing up unequivocally for the rights of the Australian screen industry.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I mean rights rights. You know what rights is talking
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: about are right to your taxes and American jobs. I
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: mean our film industry and good luck to it. I mean,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you know, get subsidies from taxpayers like few other industries do.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: And what's more, of this government and our state governments,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: they also throw lots and lots of money in American
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: filmmakers to come make their films here. Instead, they get
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: all sorts of tax breaks, officers, grants, subsident facilities, the lot.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Just bring us your jobs. And Trump looks at that
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and says, it's not fair. Australians are subsidizing the theft
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of American jobs. And is right. I mean, sure, I'd
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: rather we have the jobs. But Trump has justice on
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: his side. So can we please drop this stuff about
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: the rights of the dream screen industry. It's simply using
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: This is simply a question of both sides, American US
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: using tax pays to prop up in industry that might
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: do all right on its own two feet. Joining me,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Shawn Spicer, Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Sean Spice,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: are good to see you because particularly I need to.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I need to talk about something that's been so big here,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump is being blamed for helping to cost
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the Liberals this election. It's also blamed the courses, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: for costing Canada's Conservative Party their election last week, frightening
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: voters off the Conservatives. Anyone you know seeming pro Trump
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: is the knock on Trump? What do you think is
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: this Trump factor? Really?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because when leaders win, he doesn't get the
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: credit for them winning, but when the Conservative Party in
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: certain countries loses, then it's completely his fault. Look, I
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: can't say that I was a close student of the
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Australian elections there, but I have a hard time believing
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: that this many miles away, we were the hugest factor there.
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: I have a feeling that Australian voters, like Canadian voters.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Were much more concerned with issues that affect their everyday lives.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: But I also think that the media, in its never
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: ending quest to make everything about Trump, is ready to
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: pin the blame on him for rainy days, days where
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the sun doesn't come out, you know, whatever the negative
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: headline of the day is. Somehow the media will find
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: a way to make that Trump's problem.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you, Suan, you're correct that
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of the media did do that. And also
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the Labor Party here which won the election, ran very
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: hard on Donald Trump being, you know, the guru behind
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: our Peter Dutton, the liberal leader, and in fact it
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: showed up in some polls as the biggest issue determining
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: who voters would vote again. So what's a huge factor.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Even if we think it shouldn't have been, it was.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I mean it's extraordinary. Do you think he is making
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: voters nervous about what conservatives really stand for?
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: No?
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, at the end of the day, Andrew,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I think if you are a like for example, I mean,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: if you care about conservative values or issues or policies,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I have a hard time thinking that somehow you're going
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: to change your vote because of who the American leader is.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I do wonder in some cases about whether or not
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I like to always say that McCay annex matter and election.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: So if you're running a race and you are allowing
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump to be the number one factor in it,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: it says a lot about your party one and secondly
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the opposition party in this case the Liberals. There that's
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: the most I have to say is that they're not
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: talking about what issues or policies affect Australians on a
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: day to day basis, but are somehow trying to inject
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the leader of the United States.
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: It doesn't say to me that they have much to run.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: On well, in fact, that you spot on on both
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: fronts there, and when you look at Nigel Faraja's success
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: in the elections over there, the council elections and the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: by elections very close to Trump, that tells you already
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: he defined himself. He was clearly nobody's patsy. Donald Trump
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: now says it's going to hit films made outside America
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: with a one hundred percent tariff, and that's obviously going
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: to hurt Australia's film industry because a lot of American
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: films are actually shot here. Wolverine, some Mission Impossible and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: so on. Why has the president done this? Why does
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Hollywood need saving?
• 38:06
  Speaker 12: It's not just Hollywood, I mean, it's about us jobs.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he cares about Hollywood and
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: some of their leftist you know, individuals that dominate that.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: But this is about creating jobs in America. I mean,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the idea and over and over again. Look at what
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: he's done. And this is where sometimes people get so
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: exacerbated with the headline and not the underlying results of
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: what's happening. Right, So the White House put this policy
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: out the other day. I linked to it in my
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: social media. I put it in the show.
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: In the show, they have an entire website.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Now dedicated to all the companies that have onshore, that
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: are coming back, that are announcing that they're doing things.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: And so what he's doing, frankly, is going after Hollywood
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: and say, you know what, if you guys want to
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: flee America to go make a US like movie. Right,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: So when they go to Australia, where they go to
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Ireland or wherever they're going, Canada and a lot of
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: cases they're making US based movies. They're just going there
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: because labor costs are cheaper, they're going to tax credits, etc.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: So he's both shaming them and also creating a financial
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: incentive to say, great, you want to go do that,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: you want to make a US like movie, but do
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: it somewhere else, then I'm going to hit you with
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: a tariff. But at the end of the day, what
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  Speaker 3: the President's really done when everyone cuts through the clutter,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: is bringing back jobs and manufacturing and investment into the
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  Speaker 3: United States. And the results show it, Like I counted
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  Speaker 3: on their website, close to about three trillion dollars of
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  Speaker 3: investment of major corporations.
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  Speaker 12: And that's what he's doing at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 12: He's forcing these.
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  Speaker 3: Industries, these companies to focus on job creation and investment
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  Speaker 3: in America.
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: And it's working.
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  Speaker 2: Well. And also side there's a finish issue. Anyone complaining that, oh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Donald Trumk's putting tariffs on movies might here. I've got
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to realize that they're just evens the field because you
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: have a look at all the tech subsasion credits and
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: oh my good, you know all the aid and government
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: funding it's actually pulled into these movies to get them
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: from America. Well, that is a form of tariff on
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: its own, exactly different.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Again, if you can get max credit to go, right,
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  Speaker 3: So it's no one has a problem with the incentives
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  Speaker 3: to come, But if there's an incentive to stay, that's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: a problem. And it's the same thing with the overall
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: terrif issue in America. Why should we not ask for fairness?
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  Speaker 3: These are our friends, These other countries. We are giving
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  Speaker 3: you market access to the greatest market in the world,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: all of our consumers. And yet when we look around,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: look backwards to so many of our close friends, they'll say, great,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: you want to enter our market to thirty percent tariff,
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  Speaker 3: of forty percent terriff in the case of India, one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent terriff.
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  Speaker 12: I don't understand why.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone thinks this is anything but a lack of fairness
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  Speaker 3: that currently exists. I think that it's amazing to me
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  Speaker 3: to see Democrats in America fight Donald Trump on this policy.
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  Speaker 12: This is one politically where I would assume they'd be well.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know that they are smart enough, but I
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: think at least politically good enough to get behind Trump.
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  Speaker 3: This is the smart play to ask for a very
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: least fairness when it comes to our trading partners and
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: our supposed friends.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Sean Spicicer, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Give that Andrew. After the break, Vladimir Putin gives a
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: revealing tour of his home, or at least his apartner
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: in the Kremlin, admits he has to fight the constant
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: urge to hit people. I don't think he's fighting very
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: hard plus one of the luckiest non citizens in Australia.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: The panel after this, Russian President Vladimir Putin has for
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: some reason given journalists a tour of his apartment in
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: the Kremlin. It turns out that this war criminal lives
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: in a rather charmless and cold place. Who would have guessed,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: with an ugly white piano that he doesn't play, and
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a fairly stark kitchen and even his private chapel where
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I assume he begs forgiveness every night for invading Ukraine
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: and deliberately murdering civilians. He did admit he has urges
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to lash out, which you called crony. Always wanted to
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: hit people for what they say. Well, that's what you
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: expect from a dictator and it's not found in that urge.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Very well, you asked the Ukrainians joining me is the panel.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Will Kingston, hosts of Fire at Will, the podcast from
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: The Spectator on politician culture, and Scarnew's host a Niko
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: di Giorgio now with her own show here every Friday
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: at five pm. Will, what did that tell you about
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: putting that little insight there?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the big scoop and Andrew, was that apparently he
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: has a four hundred dollars Australian made blender in his kitchen.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I'm a big concern that we're providing the essential vitamins
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: and nutrients to a dictator, but I guess that's globalization
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: for you. Look in terms of the video itself, not much.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: It was propaganda. With Putin, you never know what is
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: reality and what is fiction. But why he decided to
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: do the video I think is very interesting, and I
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: think that reveals a couple of things. I think it
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: reveals a that he cares deeply about his legacy. This
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: was more legacy building. He wants to be remembered alongside
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Peter the Great as one of the great men of
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Russian history. But also, even though he is a dictator,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: he needs to maintain the support of the Russian public.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: So I guess, in a very slightly well odd way,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: this was an attempt to humanize him. It was an
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: attempt to show that he's still working hard for Russia.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: I think at one point he said he works till
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: one point thirty every night. So it goes to show
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: even with these dictators in these brutal regimes, they need
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: to keep the control of the support of the public
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: in order to maintain control.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I even wonder Danika whether he lives there, because there
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: was absolutely nothing personal about it. No human touch, certainly
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: not a woman's touch there that I could detect. It
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: was like a you know, a motel room for a
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: single boke.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, let's be realistic, which woman would want
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: to hang out with Vladimir Putin? I mean, we can't
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: deny that. I just when I watched that Andrew, I
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: just thought he looks like a loner. He's clearly a narcissist.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: Not that you needed to sit down interview to tell
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: him that, but between the piano that never gets used,
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: the luxury blender, and the gym, I actually tend to agree.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: I think that they were trying to portray him as
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: this man of.
• 44:34
  Speaker 12: The people, that he's a good man and he has
• 44:37
  Speaker 12: some qualities. But the apartment looked cold, it looked white,
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: it looked stony.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: It just looked really awful, to be honest, and really,
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: it's just another vanity project for Vladimir Putin. Meanwhile, you've
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: got innocent lives being slaughtered on during his ongoing war
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: in Ukraine. It was just another narcissistic project from this dictator.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Will the election. There was so much to take out
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: from that. One comes at the consolation for Conservatives is
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that it looks like Greens lead out in Band could
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: lose his seat a four percent swing against him on
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: primary votes. Screen supporter Abby Chatfield, she's hysterical.
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: Have a look if Adam Bant loses this. I didn't
• 45:21
  Speaker 11: expect the highest worn off.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Guys, the highest one off.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: The joy's worn off.
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: No I want to crate a sadness cool.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Are you crying a tear or cracking a champagne will?
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: I'm certainly not chetting a tear. Can I detour to
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Abby Chatfield, please, Andrew, because that's not even the most
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: looney clip I've seen from her in the wake of
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: the election. She's a nutcase, but so many young Australians
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: go to her for political analysis. It's extraordinary. And we've
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: been hearing this conversation in America recently with Douglas Murray
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: and Joe Rogan and Dave Smith talking about the merits
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: of experts or the merits of, you know, listening to
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: people who don't really know what they're talking about. And
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: one of the bad things about the new alternative media
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of good stuff that comes with it.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: But the bad thing is it gives pe platforms to
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: people like Abby Chatfield who do not know what they're
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: talking about. But still so many young Australians would take
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: their political cues from her. I think it's something that
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: we should be we should be quite worried about.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when we say napcase, we obviously mean she's not
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: sortiably crazy.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Should just say, in the colloquial sense, thank you.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Rational person, Yes, here's something Danika. Here is a very
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: very lucky man. David Ryan is a permanent residence in Australia,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: not a citizen. He sexually assaulted eighteen women in Melbourne nightclubs.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: The judge didn't jail him, even though called the texts praisen.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: He said, no, no, no, they're out of character, even
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: though these attacks, eighteen of them, happened over three separate nights,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: kissing women, patting backsides, putting his hand up a top.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And the reason is lucky that, in my view, is
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that if the judge had jailed him for a year,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: he could have been deported. What would you say the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: man was lucky, not lucky, very lucky.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: What do you think well, I think he was very lucky.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: But to be honest, Andrew, it's cases like this, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: we've heard them before that really really bothered me, because,
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: in my opinion, it goes to show that multiculturalism, the
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: way we've embraced it in our society, political correctness to
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: avoid being called racist or a bigot, is more important
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: in the justice system than the lives and the safety
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: of women and girls. I was actually reading an article
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: earlier that last year Victoria and magistrates were given training
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: on how to avoid imposing sentences which would lead to
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: violent migrants being deported from Australia. They actually needed training
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: to tell you that, and that really just tells.
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: You everything you need to know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: But once again, I feel like we tiptoe around it
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: because it's this culture of all we don't want to offend,
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: and that bothers me.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: You didn't, you just didn't tie rout there. Thank you
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: so much. I've got to say the judge thought the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Goes rehabilitation chances were excellent. Danika di Jeorjo Wilkinson, thank
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: you very much. That's it from me, Sherry Marxon. Now
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: good night,