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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are in the middle of Kuf
- 0:04Sadibab. We're about to start Zion.
- 0:08But just for a minute to digress because I opened up my mouth and
- 0:13spoke about Kaliesha by Dini Arkos by Anita.
- 0:18I don't did not do it justice. So I would just like to quickly
- 0:22recap on the issue with Kaliesha.
- 0:25So it's not clear. First of all, as far as I know,
- 0:29it's not discussed in the Rishonian in the, certainly not
- 0:33in the Kumara. I mean, there is an issue of
- 0:34Kolbe isha Erva that's that's obviously in the Gumara.
- 0:38But as far as the Ishto Nida, it's nowhere discussed until I
- 0:44think it's, it's in Sifva. The Pischreichuva raises the
- 0:49question and he leaves it as a question and says Sarah Ian.
- 0:55I'm not sure what they did before, but he raised the
- 0:58question. It's Sarah Ian and that's how he
- 1:00leaves it. No, it's in the if above, not
- 1:05CIF katta in the piece Rey Chuva right in Arshukanar.
- 1:09So then on that I will just quote a few different opinions
- 1:14on the matter. The egress Moshe because of the
- 1:19Suffolk of the piece Rey Chuva, he writes Mehara UI le Hochner.
- 1:24So depending on how you want to translate the mission of the
- 1:27egos Moshe, some will say, oh for sure, he holds you have to
- 1:31but he writes Mira UI la Hachemer.
- 1:34It's better to 1 should one should try one should, however
- 1:40different ways to translate it. OK, but he doesn't say aser,
- 1:43that's for sure. The Araka Shokhan writes Li
- 1:46Shmoa to listen to her near the aser.
- 1:51So exactly what does he mean by you know, she's doing it in the
- 1:55room and you happen to be in the next room.
- 1:56You happen to be there. You're you're having Kavana to
- 1:59listen to her. Whatever he's referring to,
- 2:02which is again unclear. He writes near at a sword.
- 2:06So something obviously he writes should not be done.
- 2:09Shave it. Levy and Benish Kai writes
- 2:12Asser. But the Benisheiden does right.
- 2:15But let's say she needs to sing for the baby and you got nowhere
- 2:19to go and you're stuck in the same house or apartment.
- 2:22So he says that it's mutter. So OK, Tara Sabais and Rav El
- 2:28Yash, that's Ravi Bhadya and Rav El Yashev.
- 2:30They write. And it's they're both right.
- 2:33It's mutter seats. El Yazer's quoted as saying the
- 2:36minagas that it's mutter, but Raval Yashuv does say though
- 2:40even though it's mutter if she's singing specifically for him for
- 2:44him to listen to her. So then that's I don't know if
- 2:47you're right, it's inappropriate or or aser, but should not be
- 2:52done. So anyways, I just wanted to
- 2:54properly not misrepresent the topic.
- 2:58OK, sorry for that. Let's get to the Shokanara
- 3:02insight. Hassuma bodekit Asma Umar El
- 3:07hevrata. So a woman is Varmina and she is
- 3:14blind and so she can't see herself.
- 3:17But she could do the Bedika herself if she shows the Bedika
- 3:21cloth to her friend, right? She's wise, she's clear minded
- 3:27and she's able to physically check, but she just needs
- 3:31somebody else's eyes. OK, Right.
- 3:37Hareshit Shahmad Veenamanda Barrett So here we have someone
- 3:40who is deaf. No Haresha Shahmad Veena deaf.
- 3:48She's mute, but she's not. But she can hear.
- 3:51Oh, Shahmanda Barrett Veena Shahmad or she's she is deaf,
- 3:56but she speaks. So then as long as she can do
- 3:59one of them. Harayan kept me caught.
- 4:02So the Allaha is generally speaking for all halachas
- 4:06because there's always going to be an exception depending on the
- 4:09mitzvah, but they are higher than the mitzvahs.
- 4:11They are. Well, the issue is here she is
- 4:13Picot Lochodovars in general, we say they're wise, they're smart,
- 4:17they have das 100% Ava imeya Shomad Venomeda Barrett.
- 4:23If she, if she's deaf and mute. So then especially as a child,
- 4:28it prevents somebody from, you know, growing cognitively and
- 4:34the mind maturing. So then in general we assume
- 4:39they have a din, they're patter and they have a din of a shota
- 4:42or vechena shota. She, she is, she's Shanitra
- 4:46fadata Muhammad Holi or because of an illness, she's just not
- 4:50with us mentally. So then srikhod pihod livdok
- 4:55otan. So then another woman in order
- 4:57to make her not a Anita, so it has to check for her physically,
- 5:02really kuboa lahen vestos and to establish for them right to
- 5:07just, I guess I don't know, to write it down in a calendar
- 5:11somewhere. And they have to help her out in
- 5:14order to establish and keep track of her vestos kadesha
- 5:19tienen mutare la Bali and in order for her to be muttered for
- 5:22her wife to for her husband. Sorry, huq balahen.
- 5:27That's it. And then if she gets
- 5:30established, the vested tarahan kishar kola nashim.
- 5:33So then if she's got is a has a vested Kabul washers so say in
- 5:39malakas for all women, OK, look, but if she's doesn't have a
- 5:45vested kavua, so then again, she's also like all other women
- 5:49who don't have a vested kavua. That's how she showed
- 5:52Micheloshimi Yom, Micheloshimi Yom, It's all the same.
- 5:56And she has to she has that same baino neat and it's all the
- 6:01same. Both coat alia de picot and they
- 6:04always just you just if they don't have, they're not in their
- 6:08right mind. So then you just have someone
- 6:10else physically check for them. OK, fine.
- 6:15Tet haisha shamar belivedoc Bain bime spirata Bain B amim shalora
- 6:22tabeh marazzo meshubaja alpha P sheishla vested kavua.
- 6:27So even if a woman does have a vested kavua, the shokanar, he
- 6:30writes, it's good to check. And in general, the more you
- 6:34check, the better. But the post can point out, not
- 6:39when she's right before and after she's with her husband.
- 6:43That's not the time to be checking.
- 6:45All right. If it's issues of Tumas and
- 6:48Tumantara, which is a separate topic, that's not for Aslam Isa.
- 6:53So it's only when it's she's not with her husband.
- 6:57OK. I had something here.
- 7:01Yeah. OK, fine.
- 7:03You're Hashiva Nakim. Sorry.
- 7:07You were at Sufi. So the seven clean days, I think
- 7:10we all know this has to be 7 clean days in a row consecutive
- 7:15can't be any breaks. If you miss one day then it you
- 7:17have to start all over the seven.
- 7:19She looked here at Dam Behem, you can't have any, she can't
- 7:22see any bleeding during any of those seven days.
- 7:24She aim rata dam. I feel besaf Yamashvi even if
- 7:28she sees dam at the end of the 7th day satra kola Yamim.
- 7:34So then all the days are, I don't know how we say undone,
- 7:38whatever it's I have to start all over again with Srika Livsok
- 7:43Batara and she has to do a hav sektara again.
- 7:46I check again that day when it stops bleeding has to have a hav
- 7:50sektara and then Velakazor velimnot, Shiva Nakim and she
- 7:54has to start all over a full 7 days.
- 8:00And then the shock just points out, I mean, it's Davra Pashit
- 8:02even even says so. And if she would see on the 8th
- 8:06day also, she would have to start all over 7 clean days
- 8:10anytime, anywhere on the calendar, anytime in the year,
- 8:14anytime in the cycle. If she sees bleeding, the
- 8:17halacha is she has to wait. She have sick tahara and then
- 8:21wait another Shiva nakim, 7 clean days.
- 8:25I think we're going to discuss later on, right?
- 8:27If you have to wait an extra four or five days before you
- 8:29start counting. But here she wasn't with her
- 8:31husband. She didn't go to the mikvah, so
- 8:33she just starts another seven fine haggad gesh omarim the
- 8:41vishwa yamin rishorim shiya Mia sphera imaza khatam Ain tolin
- 8:45OTA otola haka kamosha tolin shark Tamim the sloshi yamin
- 8:53Rishi yamin rishonim srikim miyot makim the gomery.
- 8:58OK, so question is OK Summer Mahmar that for the first three
- 9:04days you can't. We're gonna I think we'll
- 9:09understand it better when we finish reading the entire Rama.
- 9:11But the issue is ketem. So we know by ketem we can be
- 9:18more Mako if it's less than a grease.
- 9:21So then for sure we're Mako. It's has no ramifications.
- 9:25If it's more than a grease, then it's a problem.
- 9:27But sometimes let's say she was walking by a slaughterhouse or
- 9:31doing dealing with other stuff that's red paint or whatever it
- 9:34is that might look ketchup. I don't know, might look like
- 9:37blood. So then many times we are told
- 9:41at Lahakel by a ketam, but he writes over here that some are
- 9:45machmer for the first three days that you can't be told of for
- 9:49other things. If it's we're going to keep
- 9:51reading aval akharka Dina kesharketam for the other
- 9:56remaining days, the the last four days of the seven, then
- 10:02it's not then we when, whenever all the coolers of ketam to be
- 10:08tola on something else or tolia. So then we can we're here even
- 10:12during those four days you can be tola, but not the first three
- 10:15days. Then we're more Makhmur, but
- 10:18Heino again, and that's what the Rama writes is Dominica veddafka
- 10:25ketem shuya teremika Greece. Obviously we're talking about a
- 10:28Greece the size of bigger than a Greece as if it's less than a
- 10:32Greece. We doesn't does the whole den of
- 10:35ketem doesn't start holochuckly to make it blood and we assume
- 10:39it was from from lice and or a bug whatever, and therefore it's
- 10:44not a problem. So that's even for the first
- 10:46three days if it's smaller than a Greece, so that ketem is not
- 10:50going to ruin the Shiva Nakim. She counts like she that she
- 10:54didn't even see the cat them smaller than a Greece Ava Baja
- 10:58Mika Greece of the old tolla Burkina, right?
- 11:01If it's less than a Greece or tolla Burkina, I feel a Vishlo
- 11:04Shyamim rishonim fine the Hua din E mayala maka begufa now.
- 11:11So there's two opinions here. He also says if she has a maca
- 11:17on her body, so then vio da ashimutsi Adam and she knows
- 11:22that the maca is bleeding, blood comes out of it.
- 11:26Didn't like it, didn't like mostly heal.
- 11:29So then it's still bleeding. So then she can be tole on that
- 11:33A filo be a teramiki grizvoed. So we are allowed to be tole on
- 11:38a maca. If you know, she bleeds, it
- 11:42bleeds Ala Shaheen mckeeling, Bishlo Shah Yamima rishar Liu
- 11:45mamaka, Shaheen yadu. But for the first three days if
- 11:50it's other stuff or if it's a maca that we don't see it
- 11:55bleeding, so then she cannot be told on that.
- 11:58Or Bashar dharams to limbahem ketam as other stuff that we
- 12:01learned earlier. Now the Shah argues and it's
- 12:06basically it's a Mahlokis acronium.
- 12:09He says that even if you know, he said he's Mahama, that even
- 12:15if you know it's bleeding, you can't be told on a maka for the
- 12:19first three days. Leave that as a mahlogas.
- 12:23Fine, let's go to you at Olive Hapaulette Sheikh Wazira, we may
- 12:29spherata him who talk shesh or not.
- 12:34So here the Allaha is a paulette Sheikh Wazira we may spherata if
- 12:43she was with her husband, if the seamen can come out and stay
- 12:47viable. So for three for 72 hours.
- 12:52If it's during the Shiva nakim IM who talk shesh onot
- 12:57leshimusha soterit Otto Yong. So that prevents you from
- 13:03counting Lefiha and mesha meshat mita TA virata harka pasca.
- 13:11So if she's with her husband and then she sees bleeding, so then
- 13:17she wants to and then she has a half sectara so then she can
- 13:20start counting Shiva nakim. But she cannot start counting
- 13:25the Shiva Nakim immediately. Adshi avrou aleha.
- 13:30So she has to wait until the 72 hours pass Shesh O note
- 13:36shlemote. That's why it's right 60 No, it
- 13:39is 3 days, 72 hours shama tea float because maybe I could stay
- 13:45viable and maybe it'll come out and then it undoes the Shiva
- 13:50nakim lispor adyom kamishi leshimusha.
- 13:57So she so she knows when she's with her husband she must in
- 14:00order to start counting. I mean, often it's not relevant
- 14:03because a woman will bleed for five days, but but sometimes it
- 14:07is relevant. That really depends on this on
- 14:11depends on the situation. It could very well be relevant
- 14:13at least sometimes. OK, so according to the
- 14:16according to the Shah Khanarak, you must wait for four days and
- 14:23then you'd on the 4th day you do your have set Tara because
- 14:26there's the one day she's with her husband, then you have to
- 14:29wait another 72 hours. So that's always going to be 3
- 14:34days and something. And therefore and you only start
- 14:38counting at night. So therefore, by definition, it
- 14:41has to always be a minimum of four days, right?
- 14:44Technically that no one argues, it always has to be 4 days.
- 14:48And then on the 5th day you can already start counting.
- 14:52So technically that based on numbers, that could be true.
- 14:58And that is the sock of the Shalkhanar.
- 15:00But hold on until we read the Rama.
- 15:06If she was with her husband on mote Shabbos and she has to wait
- 15:14another four days, the mote Shabbos is part of Sunday, so
- 15:19then there's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then Thursday.
- 15:23Yom Kamishi is the after four days, including when she's with
- 15:27her husband. That's so that's the Qaimalan
- 15:32EIN Shekhawat 0 Masriya Ajah rule of Shesh Onoch lemon right?
- 15:37We hold it's viable for 72 hours.
- 15:40May 8th, late 8th. So therefore, that's the only,
- 15:43the only that's why you always have to have a minimum.
- 15:46According to the Shokanara, 4 days.
- 15:50The aim, including the time that she's with her husband.
- 15:54All right, that's one day. And then three more days.
- 15:56Shim sham. What's 8 Shabbat gopalta Lil
- 15:59revi kodem 8 Shim Shabbat diani omera vitov.
- 16:05Oh, Nashi sheetless shimotav is so terret.
- 16:08It just explains it again and it can right?
- 16:11It could come out on the on Wednesday.
- 16:13It's so Teret helka Yom hamishi. Yeah, Rishon le spirita.
- 16:18So the only way to know for sure that there's no viable Sheikh
- 16:23Manzara that comes out is on you wait for the 5th day.
- 16:29OK, that's and that's the halacha according to Mani
- 16:34Svartim and Tara Tobait and Rabbad Yosef.
- 16:38The Rama we're going to see holes.
- 16:40We have to wait. Generally speaking, an extra day
- 16:46and Menisfardum are also Mahmir Benischai and those who follow
- 16:52are also Mahmir like the Rama we're about to get to and for.
- 16:57OK, anyway, so that's this is we'll see the Ashkenazim and the
- 17:02Rama are very Mahmir for this extra day and kilu MI Karadin
- 17:08and if there's absolute need for fertility reasons, so then
- 17:15shaila shaila trav. But let's just read it inside
- 17:19Haga and we'll explain why the TI sok Yom revihile ET erevi Yom
- 17:24hamishi Ole Minya and Shiva. So the Rama just reiterates the
- 17:30words of the Shalkhanarath. So on the 5th day already she
- 17:34can start counting. OK, So it's four days plus 7 is
- 17:39going to be the minimum. All right.
- 17:43OK. Vaishakhatu, Shiyesh, Lamtin,
- 17:47Odion and some right, some right, That we're supposed that
- 17:54we should wait an extra day. I think it's based on the
- 17:58Chuma's addition and it's important to wait one extra day
- 18:02and we'll see that it becomes the Mina that we we wait an
- 18:06extra day. According to the Roma, no, you
- 18:14have to have five days and then on the 6th day you can only
- 18:18start counting. So it has to always be a
- 18:20minimum, right? If if she was with her husband,
- 18:23always has to be a minimum of 12 days, 5 + 7 Shiva Nakheim.
- 18:30And during those five days she could be bleeding, but Shiva
- 18:35Nakheim OK, but then if she stops bleeding after the first
- 18:38day, it's still a minimum of 12 days.
- 18:40Let's see it inside. That's could only be the 6th
- 18:45day. It could only be the first of
- 18:46the Shiva Nakheim. Why the Haishi nan Shama to
- 18:51Shamesh by Yom Rishon? Because we're afraid that she's
- 18:59going to be with her husband during Beinash Mashout with T
- 19:03Sport Shu Yong and she thinks it's the daytime, so she'll
- 19:07start counting from the day earlier.
- 19:09But me but Beinash Mashout maybe really belongs to the night and
- 19:13it's the next day. So she because of being the
- 19:17possibility of being with one's husband at Beinash Mashout, it
- 19:21could be she can get it one day off.
- 19:24OK, We aim tatra Lima Miyama Kamishi yet talk sheesh or not
- 19:28the shimusha as if she's one day off and then she won't have 72
- 19:33hours. If she's one day off and it's
- 19:36during OK, OK, that's really what it is.
- 19:39She might be off, she might miscount by a day, OK.
- 19:43And yeesh, lahosif Odeon akha. Therefore, we always add one
- 19:47extra day because we're afraid they're going to be together
- 19:50being a Smashot and she won't miscount, demiate EF Charlie la
- 19:55volli de taut. If you add the extra day, then
- 19:59you can never make a mistake, but she can never miscount the
- 20:02re noggin, behold medinot ELO, the EN le chanot, and this
- 20:06becomes the absolute minhug and halacha and in Europe and one
- 20:12cannot deviate. Shenagu la Hachemer OD la Hamtin
- 20:19ad Shiva Yamim and some women are mahmir to weight 7 + 7.
- 20:24But then on this the Ramadi says we ain't tambadavar and there's
- 20:28no reason for this whatsoever. We have mahmir yakhmir, vamekal
- 20:33niskar la haktim atzmola mitzvah and the one who's being Mahmir,
- 20:38he's being Mahmir. But at least he says very
- 20:43kindly. But the one who's being Makil is
- 20:45actually the one who's being Zari Zimaktim of the mitzvah.
- 20:51And the one who's being Makil is the only correct opinion and it
- 20:55is the only way to go. That's what he's saying for
- 20:59this, of course, for being Makil to do 5 days, not seven days.
- 21:04That's what he's talking about. OK.
- 21:05In other words, being Makhmur with no reason is not always a
- 21:10good thing. And if it's for the wrong
- 21:12reasons or you're losing out from it, then being Makhmur is
- 21:16not good. Yay Shikhatvu Shah Akshav ayn
- 21:19Lakhalid bean shimsha in Bailala lo shimsha and then and then
- 21:24some right? Wait a second.
- 21:25Nowadays we're not going to be Mahalik, right?
- 21:28It doesn't matter if she was actually with her husband or not
- 21:32Nicole Isha Shiroa and anyone who sees a filu ketam, even a
- 21:39ketam Srikala hampting hamishayamim.
- 21:43Once you see a ketam right, Even though we say is there abundant
- 21:46doesn't matter. It's a ketam that's more than a
- 21:47Greece and so we say she's Tamaya and has to go to the
- 21:53mikvah. So even for I kept them and it
- 21:56just happened once, she still must wait even if she wasn't
- 22:00with her husband, right? But she went to the mikvah and
- 22:02everything else. So then she must wait 5 + 7 if
- 22:07it's sorry hampting hamisha yamim in Yom Shera tabeau,
- 22:11right? The five days include seeing the
- 22:14blood and then the tivsoka 8 Arab and then before shkia she
- 22:18does the have sectar. It must be before shkia and then
- 22:21the T sport Shiva Nakim, the Henoagim remedy, not Elu, the
- 22:26Ain Leshanote. And that is the halacha.
- 22:33You mean for Spartim? If they were, it's it's it's the
- 22:38same. You have to, you know, for
- 22:40Spartim it's the same, but you keep four days or at least
- 22:43according to Rababad, Yeah, you keep four days.
- 22:49So that I'm not 100% positive. Thank you.
- 22:53If Shimsha or not. And you know you were not.
- 22:56But she went to the mikvah, so I have to see what he says inside.