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Two Jersey Js: Don't Worry, Be Thankful · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, It's Jackie Gildschneider and Jen Besler. We are two
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: Jersey Jays. Hi, guys, I cannot believe that it is November.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Right since we are here in New Jersey. One of
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: the good things is these is the leaves changing. It's beautiful,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: it really is.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I feel like I'm getting really hokey as
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: i get older, but I drive down the street and
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just so pretty.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: It is it is, it is. That's one of the
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: good That's the news about not living in Florida, which is,
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: I know, I love the seasons.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever be able to leave. Like
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: I went to college in Boston and it was very,
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: very cold.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, I hope my kids go somewhere that's
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit warmer, but I still want them.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: To have the seasons. Yeah, and I do love fall,
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: but I can do without winter. Oh it's so cold.
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  Speaker 1: The worst maybe it's snowbird. But the good news is
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  Speaker 1: because fall is in fact here, so is drummer leaves. Well. Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I love Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't always love Thanksgiving either, but I love Thanksgivting.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Now it's funny because, oh, by the way, you guys
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: were talking about Thanksgiving today, which I'm really excited about.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: I actually my kids recently before we even decided to
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: do this episode on Thanksgiving, I guess, we were in
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: the car and talking about it. My niece was there too,
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, you guys excited for
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and I want to say that my son is like,
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, the best day of the year.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: And Danielle, my niece, chimed in, and Rachel chimed in,
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: and it's like, makes me so unbelievably happy that they
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you like, you're an empty nester, so to
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: have your kids back home now they live in this city,
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: so they like do they sleep over though Thanksgiving?
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't have that full house again, and
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: like the smells of the season and just like how
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: it's not cold, but it's not warm, and it's just
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: so festive and everyone's together. The thing is now, as
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: I get older, it makes me sad sometimes, like the
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: happiness is mixed with sadness and I wish that it wasn't.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: But I like when I think back on old Thanksgivings,
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: I missed my grandparents. I'm sad about my parents getting older.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: I get nervous. Is this my dad's last night? I
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: hope my dad's not listening, But like I always think, like,
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  Speaker 2: is this my dad's last Thanksgiving? Is this my father
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: in law's last Thanksgiving? I get nervous and sad, and
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: I wish I didn't let those thoughts come in, but
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  Speaker 2: they do, And I think I think that's probably the
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  Speaker 2: case for a lot of people.
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: We always my in laws have passed, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving was for us. There's so many traditions, and one
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: of them was that my father in law made every
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: year this antipast. So my father in law was Jewish
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: and my mother in law is Italian, and my father
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: in law was in love with his mother in law,
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  Speaker 1: so she used to make this antipast and every year
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: he used to make it, and none of us really
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: ate it. It was huge. It was like all these
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: Italian meats and cheeses and those little gurkins, and like
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: at one point I think he even put like sardines
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: or something thing. And to this day now we make it.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Jeff and Rachel make it. Oh well, I can't say
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: no one needs to. I think Jeff likes it. Maybe people,
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: but it always ends up in this big ziplock gets slimy.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: I sneak it into the garbage, but it's like, we'll
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: never not make it because it's just.
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  Speaker 2: It's a traditions, all right, So what are your other traditions?
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  Speaker 2: What was it like for you growing up?
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  Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this, Jack, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: that many memories of Thanksgiving growing up. I really don't,
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  Speaker 1: Like I was thinking back now. I mean, my life
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: was a very very chaotic, to put it mildly, childhood,
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  Speaker 1: and so I don't remember if I was with my
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: mom with my dad. Like I'm telling you, I was
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: thinking about it, and it just wasn't It's not a
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  Speaker 1: memorable part of my childhood. And maybe that's why I
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: turned into When I first got married and had kids,
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  Speaker 1: I became Martha Stewart around this time. I mean I
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: had like I was watching the Food Network. I was
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: getting the Food Network magazine, and I like, this is
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: not to know me now, is to know like that's
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: seems so far from who I actually am. I was
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  Speaker 1: combing through recipes. It made me so happy to watch
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  Speaker 1: just I had the Food Network on like a loop
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  Speaker 1: but as maybe because as a kid it wasn't that's special.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember it being I remember maybe in my
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: twenties going to my aunt's doing it with my cousins,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't like it is now. Now it's like
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: this huge part of how many people do do you host?
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: My host? Okay? And how many people? A lot? Depending
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  Speaker 1: some years is more than more than others. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's your maybe twenty five. Oh wow, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we started hosting. You know, my Thanksgivings as
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: an adult have been.
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  Speaker 1: Very like split up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know so, I'm estranged from my sister,
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  Speaker 2: and so we never had Thanksgiving as a family, so
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  Speaker 2: as a full family, but I don't really even know her,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like weird to me, like it always felt
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  Speaker 2: like a full family, but I knew she wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: So my parents were very split in the middle of course.
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  Speaker 1: And what about growing up though? Were you growing up?
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  Speaker 2: She was always there, but always like we never going directed, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: We always had all four of my grandparents and my
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: dad had a brother, and his brother and his wife
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: and two kids would come. I'm I'm his sister, the
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: sister and her husband and their kids would come, so
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: we always had a very full house. Yeah, because I
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: had four cousins who were right around my age. I
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: did lose one of my cousins when I was in
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: my twenties. Yeah, he had a heart attack.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: My gosh, awful.
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  Speaker 2: But I had four cousins that were right around my age,
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  Speaker 2: and we just had the best time together exactly. And
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: I was always, you know, my brother, we always had
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: a good time together, and my sister didn't really interact
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  Speaker 2: that much, but you know, it was like I always
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  Speaker 2: had a great time.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: I had the what I do remember the Thanksgivings when
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: I was in my twenties because I was living in
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: New York and I'd go to my aunt and uncles
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: and my cousins. Like being with my cousins was always
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: just both Robin and myself. That was just the best.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it really was.
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  Speaker 2: Like That's one thing I'm so grateful for is even
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: though I don't speak to my sister, my kids and
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: their cousins are very close. I mean they were a
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: little older, but like Friday, We're.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: Going to have dinner with my parents and my cousins.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: Their cousins are coming, Like.
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: They really do love each other, but there's a there's
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: a pretty big age gap.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: So it's nice that you guys were able to. Yeah,
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: that's not an easy care anymore, what's you know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like I it is, and as they get older,
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: it's even harder because everyone has their own lives and
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: you know too, are in college and so it's just hard.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, so we were all split up for so
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: every Thanksgiving was my parents would go to me one
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: and then we would go to Evan's parents on the
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: year that we weren't with my parents. And then in
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: recent years it just got too hard for our parents
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: to go through the whole Thanksgiving set up. So it
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: was a lot for Evan's parents are both in their
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  Speaker 2: mid eighties and.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot for them to host, just like I've
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  Speaker 1: hosted year for the past. I always since I probably
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: since I got married, we've been hosting. But I just
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: had this like memory of my mother in law and
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  Speaker 1: she was sickly, but she for years she would get
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: wheeled in in the same coat. It's like it had
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: she's like leather with fur, and she always had her
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  Speaker 1: aid with her and we'd wheel her in and I
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: would help her take off her coat, and she was
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  Speaker 1: so excited about Thanksgiving. But she was and she was
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  Speaker 1: so easy, like my in laws were both just the
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  Speaker 1: most like loving, wonderful, easy people. And she would just
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: sit there like actually cry a little because she was like,
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel bad for Jeff. Thanks, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for saying it. Yeah, now it's good. You just
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  Speaker 1: ruined my whole Thanksgiving. No, but I just I miss that,
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  Speaker 1: I missed just her presence, you know. But yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: she loved it. So she loved the food.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say that I'm very lucky. Also, I
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: have wonderful in laws, so I do look forward to
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  Speaker 2: these holidays that were all together. And this year my
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  Speaker 2: parents and Evan's parents are both coming to me, so
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  Speaker 2: it's really nice. And Evan's sister and my brother and.
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  Speaker 1: So it's nice, you know. Good.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you one really funny, okay Thanksgiving story. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: when I was in law school, I had a boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: and his It was just him and his.
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  Speaker 1: Brother were the kids, two boys.
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  Speaker 2: And their mom super super warm, very warm. And my
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  Speaker 2: parents got close to their parents and they came over
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving one year when we were together, and his
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  Speaker 2: mom had way too much wine at the Thanksgiving table,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, we were in the early twenties. We
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: weren't getting married yet, you know, but like we were
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: starting to like think about serious and his mom got
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: really drunk at the table at the Thanksgiving table and
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  Speaker 2: she said, really loud.
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  Speaker 1: She said, I'm always going to be your best girl, right.
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  Speaker 2: And my mom looked at me and she was like,
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: did you just hear what to say?
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: And she repeated that line to me like for years afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, I'm always going to be your best girl, right.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so I know.
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  Speaker 2: But I's a perfect Thanksgiving story. Yeah, And he was like, oh,
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: like he didn't know what to say.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously what I'll say to my son. At
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: some point. I didn't end up marrying him, but not
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: because of that. Well, that would have been a good
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: enough reason. Yeah. I asked my kids. I sent like
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: a family uh text whatever, a group text, and I
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: said to them, we're doing this Thanksgiving podcasts, you know.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I'm so happy to ask them
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: because I'm just so curious because they did recently say it.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: It's like their favorite Like, what do you have any
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: like funny things that you remember, and I got like flooded.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Oh tell me something that was really cool. Well, some
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: were not that funny, but like so Rachel sent me
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: one that said, when you guys were like where the kids.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: The kids were always in the basement hanging out doing
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: their things, so cute that they all would go down there,
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: even like the younger ones. And it was years before
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: he realized they were down there getting baked, Like, oh
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: no way, Like every Thanksgiving my kids were like in
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: high school, and the older cousins would they come back
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: up stairs and eat everything insight. But who knew, I
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: mean it was Thanksgiving now we all just join them.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: And then one of my cousins. The cousins always bring
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: their animals and not this year because we have these
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: ugly cats, but whatever, but one of the dogs got
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: out and chased the neighbor's cat up the tree, and
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: for hours we were all dealing with this. There were
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: so many like glitches all the time, which just like
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: makes it kind of fun. My kids also, they're so
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: tied into the traditions. Like I say to them every year,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: I get so sick of the same Thanksgiving food and
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: they're so sentimental about it, which also secretly like makes
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: me so happy. So but it's like the same stupid
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: like games every So, like Jeff has this thing and
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: he has to make the sweet potatoes the yams, and
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: he makes a whole production out of it, and how
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: great they are. He literally takes cans of yams, MUSHes
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: them up, puts some brown sugar and marshmallows. But it's
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: a whole thing about his secret recipe, and Daddy has
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: to make the yams or maybe in there. I mean,
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: one can only hope because they get so much attention.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: But like every like, it has to be for cooking
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: something I love. Really, that's not cooking, that's that's oh
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: my god, I cook not you don't. No, I don't cook. Well,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: A big reason.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Why I don't cook is because for twenty years I
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: didn't eat, so I never wanted to taste. When you're anorexic,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: like every bite matters, So I never wanted to taste
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: anything that I was cooking. So since I couldn't taste it,
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: want to subject everyone else to it.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: So I never cooked. Now will you? Now, I'm just
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: really not interesting.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: We just order in yeah with cater Well, for many years,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: we were members of a country club, so we would
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: cater from there because we had this money amount that
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: we had to ease out dining, and we never went
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: there when we would go out to eat, so we
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: never really used the money. So we'd cater in the holidays.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Now we cater from a local place. Yeah, it's delishous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, even if I wanted to or even
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: to change it up, I feel guilty because it's like
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  Speaker 1: the one day a year it's this big family event.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: I know everybody is gets so excited for it, and
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't have this growing up like it is so
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: such a cherished I'm so proud of myself, first of
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: all that I have hosted it, and that I've given
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: this to my kids, and because again I can't even
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: remember Thanksgiving as a kid, and I know these are
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: like for my kids to say it's the best day
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: of the year. But like silly things like so I
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: like prep the turkey with my best friend, you know,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: my friend Helene, So her and I since the kids
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: were very little, for whatever reason, I figured out how
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: to do turkey and she had this recipe for brisket.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: So neither one of us ever writes it down and
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: we're on the phone all day figuring it out, like
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: remembering again. And then you put this in the brisket
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: and this ginger ale and this and whatever the turkey
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: do you tie it so like that's fun. And then
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: we get ready. And then at two in the morning,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Jeff and I wake up because we want our ovens
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: to be empty. And plus you put like hot gravy
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: on it, and we put it in. We put the
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: turkey in the morning to do this. We get like
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: twenty five pound turkey, kind a turkey breast, so we
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: put it all links. We win our ovens free like
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: once every cause my family starts pouring in at like
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: nine am. Wow, we start pouring mimosas at like well
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: nine am. So but when the kids wake up, like
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: the whole house smells like turkey. Oh, I know that's
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: so nice. Week.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you one story from last year? And
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: then we'll get into some of our stuff. But you know,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a real sucker from my dad, and so we
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: order all our Thanksgiving stuff like weeks and weeks in advance.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: And so my dad calls me two days before Thanksgiving
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: and he says, Jackie, I want a fried turkey this year,
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, a fried turkey, I don't know what
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: to be getting, you know. So he's like, do you
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: think you can get one? I said, all right, I'll
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: figure it out, right. So I call the place we
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: cat it from and they're like, yeah, we're definitely not
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: going to be able to give you a fried turkey
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: right now, like we're totally done taking orders. So I
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: sit down on my computer and I call every place
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: within a half hour radius or a forty five minute
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: radius where I could get a fried turkey, and there
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: is just none to be had. So I go on
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: some like online you're not going to tell me you
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: got a fright?
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Wait? No, I didn't, Okay.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So I go on this online forum and there's a
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: bunch of people saying, don't judge me, okay, no room
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: to day that the best fried turkeys are at Popeyes.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: So Evan's like, you are not getting Popeyes for they
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: told me so anyway, I'm like, all right, I got
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: come through from my dad because I promised.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: So I go to Popeye's the day before.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: So it turns out that fried turkey is not like
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: a deep fried turkey, Like there's not like a batter
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: crust on like fried chicken. It's this way of I
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: think it means like it's like a Cajun rub spice.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I mean it's like a little bit denser than a
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: regular turkey. But anyway, I go to Popeyes, I'm like,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: do you.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Have a fried turkey.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: It's not fully cooked, it's marinated in this like fried
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Cajun Southern whatever. I get the fried turkey, it take
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: it home. I stick it in the oven, I cook it,
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I bring it out. I'm like, this is this is
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: the fried turkey. He's like, all right, let me tell you.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: My entire family ignored the regular turkey that come on.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: It was so good. It was so so good.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: This year I'm getting it. I mean, this year, I'm
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: not going to get it from Popeyes, but the fried turkey,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: and it's the best. Yeah. It was delicious. I was
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: really like juicy inside.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah you go. Jeff starts thinking about Thanksgiving literally, like
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know, halfway through October, already has his order
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: in it. Goffle Farms. Goffle Farms. Is this farm? Do
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: they go? Yeah? Fresh killed? I feel like one episode
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: of the New Jersey Housewives, Teresa and Joe Joe, jud
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Dicey might have gone and picked up their turkey at
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like a fresh kill place, maybe Goffle Farms. Oh really well,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: probably everything's local.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: That wasn't the episode where they were sitting at the
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: picnic table and he took the phone call.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this is Thanksgiving. Wasn't that like
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a vineyard? And yeah, I think those Italy or who knows, Oh,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but this was no, this was like
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving time and like they went and Esa had on.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know why all of a sudden that popped
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: into my head, but anyway, so Jeff orders it and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I go and pick it up usually for whatever reason,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: and I get so upset because you can like they're
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: fresh killed, and it's like you see the turkeys like
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: rooming around. No I know, you know, So so what
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: do you do? So everybody comes, everybody start point, momoses
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and so listen. My family is big and loving and dysfunctional,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: So it's not like there's always if you stop and listen,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: somebody's whispering about somebody in some corner, like that's that's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: just the way you guys be talking about politics. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: don't think so I don't think, well, we've gotten into
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: it a few years, and I don't I don't think
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: there was a year you have a big divide. Things
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: have shifted somewhat, but there was a year it didn't
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: start at Thanksgiving, but my cousin, one of my cousins,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: didn't even come to Thanksgiving because her and I had
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: had such we were such a bad place because of politics,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and which is so sad I think about it now.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: She's one of like the people I love the most
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: in the world, and I didn't speak to her for
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: over a year. And it's funny because then they she
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: couldn't come because of her mother in law. And this
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: year is the first year they're back in like four years,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm so everybody's so excited. But so I probably
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: will put a like a ban on any political talk.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the timing of it could be worse. Right,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it's like right after the election. So I think that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a few weeks nerves will be for a few weeks.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I cannot ban my father from talking about anything.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: My dad will do whatever he wants to do, which
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: is what I love about him. Yeah, but he will
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: do whatever he wants to do whenever he wants to do. Yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: so good for him. I do want to get to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: because I just all of this like just I don't know.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It makes me happy to talk about, but I want
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to know. Like you don't cook, I cook, but also
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: like what do you guys have? Like I cook every year.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I'm in charge of the turkey and the brisket, so
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: those are the two biggies. And I also make these
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: cookies every year. I make them two days before I
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: freeze them. Jeff makes yams and antipas. My kids always
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: want to make something, but everything else is I just
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like give out assignments. Like everybody comes and there's so
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: much food it is vulgar. But I am the best.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Now I can make turkey and brisket like with the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: best of them. Really, Oh my god, I'm so good.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't cook anything, but our policy is we get
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: all the main course food and appetizer food, and we
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: let everybody bring dessert or wine. Okay, So the grandparents
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: love bringing dessert because it's really the kids who eat
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the dessert and it makes them happy to make the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: kids happy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So we leave that to them.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And my mother and father live in Central New Jersey
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and there's all these farms around that, so they go
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to this place called wem Rock and get like these
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: most delicious pies. So yeah, Thanksgiving for me for many
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: years was you know, like a very joyous holiday because
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I loved being with family. But the food, the food,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you know, everything with food was always an issue for me.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But Thanksgiving in particular, there's so much emphasis on not
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: just eating, on overeating, yes, and it was always a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: really really uncomfortable setting for me because my rules never
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: there was never any like leniency in the way that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I ate, and so it was really hard for me
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to get around that at the Thanksgiving table, like to
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: fake it and to be able to not eat and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: your family pick up on it. I mean, everybody knew
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I was sick.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: There was nothing you could do.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: But for a long time, it was really uncomfortable for
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: me to sit there while everyone just kept eating and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: eating and eating, and for me to have eaten my
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: portion and not be able to like you know, to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: give myself any flexibility. It was very very hard for me.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: But I do remember so before I was anorexic, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: was always a very big yoyo dieter. My first diet
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: weight Watchers nineteen ninety four. After that, I was a
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: humongous yoyo diter. I mean like up twenty town, twenty twenty, down.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Twenty yes and came to the right place.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: My sophomore year in college, I came home from school
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and I had gained a little bit of weight, which
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: always very very hard for me to come home. When
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I gained weight, I never felt good about myself. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: didn't want to see anybody.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Especially see my dad and my mom too.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: But it was like everybody people from high school, even
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: my parents, my dad, you know, like they wouldn't say anything,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: but like I could tell that they could tell, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Like I just always felt very bad and I felt
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: terrible about myself. And that Thanksgiving was the only time
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I ever like really binge. I remember just eating a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: pie and I couldn't stop, and I was just eating
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the pie and eating the pie, and I was like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: fuck it, and I just kept eating the pie and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I canceled all my plans. I didn't have that many
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: friends in high school. I had a really hard time
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: in high school, but I did have some plans that weekend,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and I canceled all them.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I could literally couldn't even button my pants and I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: felt sick to my stomach.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And you know, even in recovery, Thanksgiving is one of
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: those holidays where I feel this pressure to eat more
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: than I want to eat. So it's always it's always
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: been a pretty loaded holiday from a food perspective, just me.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: But I do enjoy now being.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Able to eat everything and taste everything, and I give myself,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you know, of course, permission to eat everything that I want,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: but I also.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Try to stop. Well, we get full, it's because you're
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and I hate this, because we have. We start eating
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: appetizers and whatever, and then by the time dinner is served,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: there's been so much picking and that like we sit
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: down for I don't know, maybe forty minutes and it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: been so much prep, days of prep, and then so full,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: so sick, bring out dessert anyway. And then usually what
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: happens is the adult and I can't believe I'm saying that,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: but I mean the grandparents they leave now like everybody's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: still sort of hanging out and they don't sleep over, no,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but then we all start eating again. Usually it's like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: but what is.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It like on ozebic? If you don't mind me asking
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you out eat ozempic.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean honestly, like the level of fullness that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you get isn't like, oh God, I'm gonna die, Like it's.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Not I don't know fullness like that. I never eat
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: to that level, which is like a mental thing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know the science behind it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But there are times when I like don't even like
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: ozempics mozembic, Like I don't even feel it. It's like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but especially when I'm
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like looking forward to a meal, like even like tonight,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: we're going out for my niece's birthday, and so just
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: like any other I guess person that doesn't like I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: really won't eat that much during the day to day
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: because I want to have like a great appetite. We're
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: going to this I don't know, special dumpling place that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: she wants to go to. But are you hungry and
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you're not eating or you just don't even feel the hungry? No,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I do, Oh I feel hunger. It's I can't. I mean,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it's such a good question. I wish I had the answer.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But yes, I am absolutely able to eat way more
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: than I usually would enjoy it more. But Also, it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: funny because Jeff got on recently what he got on ozmpic.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: We always say ozempic, right, that's what that's the catch
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. And yeah, and he said to me,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna go off it because I want
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to have a really good appetite for Thanksgiving. He's never
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: had a Thanksgiving on it, so which, yeah, you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: go for it. He tolerated, He's tolerated very well. He
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: hasn't had he's lost like he needed to lose some
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: weight because he just has tried everything and crazy diets.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And I just was worried because he's he's short, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and he is just this big belly and it's kind
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of dangerous when you're short, I think, but really short
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: or really tall, right, and his grandfather had heart disease.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So anyway, because he's not a vain person, he wasn't like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to justify it to each through.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah I don't, but whatever, I mean, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: don't agree with it when you don't.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: My my issue is with the unregulated use, but that's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: for another time. Like if he's being if he needed
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it and for health reasons and he's watching himself and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: he was overweight, then go for it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So he I don't know, he's lost like probably maybe
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: eight pounds. Those we love it. It's just it's a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: very listen, we won't go too deep into this, but yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: but everybody, when I find when people get on it,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: they're like, it's a very strange thing to not have
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: your brain so preoccupied with food or to like get satiated.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And I, well, he did. It's a different thing. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: always had eating disorder, not always, but in and out
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of eating disorders, but like I never knew what it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was like to just not be in the mood, Yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to like push like alright, I'm done. I don't need that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are moments where I'm like, God, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: could get rid of all of this. I could stop
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: worrying about everything, sure, you know, but then I would
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: never do it personally, because number one, that's not the way,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that's not the relationship with food that I want for myself.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: But also the knowing that I'd have to be on
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it forever and that without it I would gain so
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: much weight it would make me crazy mentally.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I know. So I get that. I fully get that. Yeah, anyway, Okay,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: let's transition. Do you shop? Do you go out that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: night shopping? So we used to not, well, that's not true.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I guess it was still No, it was morning. But
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: we used to get up on Thanksgiving and it used
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to be way colder. Whatever this is about global warming
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but it used to be freezing on Thanksgiving
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: here in New Jersey. And we would get up, especially
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: my cousin Debbie and I, at like four o'clock in
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the morning for Black Friday. We would yes, we would
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: bundle up, we stop Dunkin Donuts. It was a lot
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of times it was four of us. I have two
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: cousins and would be my sister and my two and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: we would go stand online. And this is at the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: time where like we had little ones, so like we'd
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: stand online at Toys r Us and waiting to get
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: in and then oh, Jackie, it was so much fun.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it wasn't when we were freezing,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: but I have such great memories of it. Like Toys
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: r Us is not even around anymore, which breaks my heart.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But you know, it was the best and you get
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the yes and you'd get into that toy store and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: everything have let's say like a yellow tag and two
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: for one, and you felt like you were I know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It was so fun, you know, Formonica.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I used to stick the kids in when they were
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: really little, you know, so they were all really close
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: in age.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: They were only two years apart.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So when they were like four and two, I used
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to take them to the one in Paramus right so
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: near where jen Aiden lives. And there was a huge
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: choice of us and I'd have two in the wagon
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: right and then two like.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Walking with me.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And I used to let them pick out like a
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: few gifts each for Hankah, and it was just the funnest.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I never like four hours, oh my god, and your
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: little kid comes back in like I would want to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: go into the doll section. Now, Rachel, of course was
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: never into dolls, right, she was always into like, you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, different, and I wanted her because I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: was so into baby dolls. And I would go into
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the doll section and like you're you know, you're inner,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: little girl all comes out and I just, I don't know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it, loved it, loved it,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: like I don't know.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: That was toy stores.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They're so great, you know, toy stores and you know
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: what else I miss video stores?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Really. I remember the smell of.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Video store, well sort of Blockbuster. There was this one
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: on Staten Islands that we used to go to. My
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: dad and I used to go every week, right, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it was called Selective Video. And I remember looking I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: used to look at the dirty covers.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like and there was this movie spring Break.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that movie spring Break where they went
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to Fort Lauderdale And on the cover there was like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a girl in a bikini and her body was stretched
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: out on the sand and like there was little figurines
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: of all the guys walking on her body.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And I used to think it was like porn. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I used to look at like the porky'st cover and
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: like I thought it was like porn.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the smell of a video So I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: love going in there because I love like it in
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the candy and the boxes. Yeah, that was your night,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Like like are listening to do or don't remember that?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But that was like TV simpler time.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: God, everything was so much simpler and no phones and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: like the kids know, like the concept of the fact
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that we didn't have phones when we were growing up,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but like how.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Beautiful and even just from then to now, like the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: times that we would go to toys r us. Now
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: everything is online. We don't get up. We shot, we
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: try to get out there, but even getting out there
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter because we know that we could something about
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the fact that we could be home and on our
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: computer and on getting Amazon Prime. It's like and it
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just took away. It takes away this. I know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It makes me worry, like there's so many beautiful, real
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: life things that are being missed. Yeah, that are just online.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: This is like a very glum sad. No, no, it's amazing. Listen,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: you're alive, you're breathing. It's thank god.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Hey, now you're.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Having family over for Thanksgiving. I have all four of
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: my in laws, I have my four healthy kids.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Like, it's amazing. Do you guys do I like Black
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Friday because you're also thinking about the next celebration, which
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: is whatever Christmas?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Like I am that jew who absolutely loves Christmas music.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Oh my god, you put me you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: tarn a candle and put on some Christmas music too.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't cry at a Folders's commercial. I love it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I love Christmas specials. I love Christmas. I love fireplaces,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I love Christmas trees. I love driving around my neighbor
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: looking at the lights. Yep, I love all of it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I love a friends giving. Yes, I love my friends
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: around the holidays.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I love being cozy. Yeah, I love all of it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So I guess even with technology and online and social media.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: There is there is still beautiful you know moments.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: But I do think that it's a particularly hard time
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: with social media for people who are lonely, who maybe
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: don't have the family. But we'll do a loneliness episode
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: one day, because I think that's an epidemic that really
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: needs to be addressed. But I can't imagine like you
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and I having these wonderful thanksgivings. Yours are bigger than mine.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Mine are still, you know, super special. But like for
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: people who have access to seeing what everybody else is
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: doing and don't have that family must be very difficult.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I love is
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that somebody's always bringing someone, so there's always someone who
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: hasn't been here before. And like this year, Zach is
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: bringing one of his friends from law school. But the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: kids also either they have a boyfriend or a girlfriend
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's fun to have like that person
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: come back again and like join just somebody else, because
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you get like you're looking at it through
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: somebody else's eyes kind of. And my family is nuts
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and completely over the top and loud, and I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that it's fun and funny. Yeah to be around. Yeah,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you know, it's nice. Do you remember that story? I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: think it was Thanksgiving?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, but where the old lady
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: sent the Thanksgiving invite to the wrong number to this kid,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and the kid said, you sent it to the wrong number,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: But I'd love to come. And it's been like a decade,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and who's been going to her house every year?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I have it. I think it was Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful. I love it be Christmas, but I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: think it is Thanksgiving. I always have Thanksgiving. I was
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: in both. My friend Lane and I both invite my
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: We had a friend who passed from ovarian cancer quite
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a few years ago, and her husband also passed unexpectedly
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: when she was sick of a heart attack. So they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: had two kids, Oh wow, who and then at that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: point raised by their grandparents, who I'm very close to anyway,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: So this was a dear friend of ours, and so
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: we always have them their grandparents and the boys always stop.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I always want them to say, but they always have
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: like reservations in the city. So but like every Thanksgiving,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I don't get to see them a lot, so we
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: get to see them and it's just like special. It's
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: just nice. It's like my whole family now knows them,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and it's just things like you know, like I guess
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: it's just like everything else goes away. I feel like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so happy we are talking about this.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It makes me excited for it. I know, I do.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I love it. I really really.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: It reminds me that I have to put in my order.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Oh god, looking, but it's late this year. It's the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: very end of November.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Last year, I remember on Black Friday, I took Alexus
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to get her ears pierced.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: And because she really wanted a second hole, and.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'll get some piercings too, So I
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: have You're so funny.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: You have like this rocktership.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Oh I want my entire back covert and tattoos. By
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the way, yes, I'm actively thinking about my guys.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So much.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: So I've eight of them on my back and I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: only let myself get one a year, otherwise I will like,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I'll Pete Davidson the hell and myself. But I although
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: he's getting his removed, my getting like that, and I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: love they're so addictive. So I'm actively thinking about my
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: next one send ideas.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: But so I was like, all right, I'll get I'll
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: get my ears pierced.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because I'm an old
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: fuddy duddy or what, but like I got so, I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: got a third hole in one ear and a fourth
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: hole in the other, and both of them like just
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: did not work out. They were so painful, and now
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they are both ciss to look. They're like big white.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I know I have to get them like taken out,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like I have to get them. I mean, like they
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: closed up like you never saying listen, dude, oh you're old.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I know this is such a this is like an aside,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but you and I have got to at some point
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of the tattoo thing. No one
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: can explain it to me. I look at my sister
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and my cousin, I'm like, why do you have one? Oh?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Not one? No, you do. I had my eyelids, my eyeliner.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Now you have that one. No, I took it off
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a long time ago. I had them when I was separated.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You guys that I'm not sure. Okay, No, I didn't
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: mean to blow up your spot and you can. Doesn't matter.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: But I had one, a really stupid one that when
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Jeff and I were separated and I had this boyfriend
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and we were wasted in Miami and I got this tattoo.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And it's it's really not a good story. I don't
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: even know that. I kind of I'd like to be
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: an open book. It was a really really stupid move.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I just let's just leave it there for now. Maybe
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: we'll cover that another time. But anyway, that's removed. But
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I almost got it. Whatever, I've
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: never been into tattoos, but I don't get what is
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the well.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't get my first one until I was thirty eight,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and then I've gotten one like almost.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Every year since. All right, sorry, so all right, so
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: we digress. So Black Friday.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I do love shopping on Black Friday, but I don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: love crowds.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I love crowds, I don't love it. Like when you're
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: hot and you brought your jacket and it's like it's on,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it's off, you're sick of it whatever. But at the beginning,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I love it because I love like being in the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: source with the Christmas used to playing like and I
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: love a deal.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember in college the Macy's near me
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: used to make the most festive, like everything was just
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like red velvet and.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Smelled like pumpkin. Yes, oh god, I used to.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: When I would get homesick in college, I would go
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: over to the Maces and just like stroll around and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: like feel cozy.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, I love that. I love the Maces in
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: New York City used to work right across the street
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: at holiday time. That was also very cool. I know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I love the holidays in New York. You know, so yeah,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: so Black Friday. I don't know what deals where you
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: ask Jeff Vessel right now, Like we are spending money recently,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like it's just going out of style. We just had
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: our boiler break. I don't know how much money we're
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: spending on on guys here. Yeah, that was a quick
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars and then traveling even Vegas. We went
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to Vegas for my birthday. For everything is a fortune.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Everything is so expensive. My kids don't even understand money,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and they just want and want and like you want
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: to give them, but you.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Also listen Jack, I mean my kids there, Yeah, we
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: spoil them. But my son is definitely very money conscious
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and like now that he's in school, but he's very
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: He made money, you worked for a couple of years.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: My daughter not as much. But we're working on it. Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: But I just I love shopping. I love and I
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: love getting a deal. So I love Black Friday. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: love getting into Cyber Monday. Or yes, okay, so Black Friday.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: What else before we talk about something a little deeper
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in terms of gratitude and thanksgiving to all the guys.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I know that sounds access, But to do people leave
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to watch football? Yes? Yes, and they all go sit
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: on the couch.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: That's a nice moment when like everybody is full and
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: everything was successful and everyone got along and then you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: all go like just sit, you have.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: A glass of wine and.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Watch football and talk. That's that's maybe one of my
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: favorite parts.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I don't watch football. I'm actually trying to recently like
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: understand it. My you know, my son and my husband
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: had been obsessed with football it's whatever. So I'm trying
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: because it's just always on in my house. But anyway, yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I love that too. Well, they're Giants fans, right, yes,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: are the Giants staying well? I don't know. My family
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is Jet fans, okay, and the Jets never do well
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and they are Now. Do you know that my son
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: is named after the Jets?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: No?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: So when we had our first set of twins, I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: said to Evan, because my maiden name is A is
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a first name, so I said, it's Mark, and I said,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I would like our firstborn son to be named after
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: my family name. His middle name to be Mark because
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I love it. That's done. Like my brother didn't have kids,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: and my only male cousin is not here. Oh he
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: wasn't Mark anyway, but yeah, so my last name is
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: pretty much done okay. And so he said, yeah, that's great,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I want this baby be I want his
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: middle name to be after the Jets.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, what are you thinking? He said, Jet?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So Aiden's name is Aiden Jet.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I said, though, I said, you can if you do this,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you can never say this is not my team anymore.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: You can never give up on the seam.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: So every year when he screams like I'm getting done
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: with this team. I hate this team. I said, no,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: you can't. You named our child after them, said with
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: them forever?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean my were a Giants family, whatever
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: that means. But if you to know Jeff Wesler is
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to know to never probably ever hear him scream or
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: escalate really except when he's watching football and he's so
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I think to myself, this is like his outlet, Like
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: he's he has all this rage apparently from knows where
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: it comes from that and the only time that he
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: gets to like release it is around fort It's like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: there's a different pert. So he's not even the same person.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: He starts screaming, and it doesn't matter what time it is.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I could be sleeping as Kevin too. He doesn't anything
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: except sport. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah, Jack, you had
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: made a list of like just fun like conversations.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you run out of things to talk
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: about at the Thanksgiving table, like conversation starters. Okay, So
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: if you could only eat one thing for the rest
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: of your.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Life, what would it be? That's always easy because like
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I love the question of like if you're going to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the chair, to the electric chair. God forbid, Big Mac
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: extra pickles hot though, Like, haven't hit Mac extra pickle?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I haven't had it since in the cakes?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my god?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Is it good? Well, I'm telling you it's the last
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: thing that I would eat with like French eyes, like
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they have to come right off of the thing.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I think I would get myself like like a ton
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: of hot bread and butter.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just eat that. I can hear. I can
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: hear that. I mean pizza, pasta bread. But if it's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: my if that's it, Big Mac, Oh my god hot.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, if I ever decided to eat a
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: big Mac, I want to do it with you. Please
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: do please. Oh that's a good one. Oh my gosh.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: What do you think was the best prank you ever pulled?
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you what?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite moments, yes, ever, was when you
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and I first started becoming friends.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm going to say?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: When you and I first started becoming friends. Okay, so
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: we were going to Ireland. Jenna and I really were getting.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Like to be close friends.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I sort of started noticing that you really
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: was like funny and goofy and we had only known
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: each other for a few months.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually say that you did this on purpose?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about the No? No, not not the luvas? Okay?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And we had to go shopping for Ireland, and I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: remember I called her and I was like, where are you?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Like we were talking and she's like, I'm at nordstrum
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Man and I was at Nordstrom too, and I was like, okay,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: So I saw her in the department.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: So I went into the same department.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: She was by a rack and I crouched down next
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to the rack and I like reached through and I
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: grabbed her.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: She screamed. It was just the funniest I have not
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: thought about that since it happened. Isn't that the fun
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: So that was how I can't even believe that that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was a million years at that time. So everything was
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: really happy on the show. We had a group check
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: go and imagine this everyone. We had a group chat
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: with everyone and people weren't and not everybody was like
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: there was every everybody. Every memory saw off of it
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: because we wanted to get her things for because it
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: was like it was like a bachelorette things. Imagine that
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: what a difference two years make what happened? You're asking
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the wrong girl.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: And the fights just go too far. I wish that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: they didn't, you think, like I wish every it could
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: just move forward.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: But like, whatever that was, that is so bizarre to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: me that we actually I remember being in Nordstroms. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: was like that for a long time. Everybody was like chat.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It was always fighting, but it was never it was
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a like show ending. But okay, anyway, these are just
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: some like topics. You guys, you want to eat as
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a kid with the best movie your TV show. You're
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: just saying you see it as a kid. Wait, there
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was this thing called bagel dogs.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're still around, but we used
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: to get them delivered to the house by like I
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: don't know. They came in pacts of like thirty and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: you stuck them in your freezer.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And they were a hot dog on a stick covered
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: in bagel bread. Corn dog. I used to I don't
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: know what it is a corn dog? Is that this
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: is because I grew up in Texas. I don't know
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: what a corn dog. Corn dog is like picture like
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: corn muffin or corn meal over the hot dogs. So
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I guess instead of cornmeal. It was a big old
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: so I used to cut the top off.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: This is when I was a kid, cut the top off,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and I used to stuff ketch up a ketchup mustard
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and pickles inside and eat.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: It like that and it was so freaking good. Right, Yeah?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like there are certain things I had
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: as a kid, certain foods that I've been chasing ever
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: since and can't get the same, Like Swedish fish, Like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: why don't they? They used to be so Now I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: just they're just another candy and I keep waiting for
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: them to bring me the match. Are you a candy
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: corn hater or a lover? I love it too, love her?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: It's so good. Okay, hold on, all right, let's see. Uh,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: what's your favorite song right now? On repeat? Well? Do
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you play music here? Yeah? Yeah, I mean during Thanksgiving? No,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: it's too loud, but definitely, like I like to have
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: music going, Yeah, I like to have happy music going,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: especially now upbeat happy. What is my favorite song right now?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like the ones that actually stick
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah. So Sabrina Carpenter Espresso only because
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of what happened on Saturday.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Night Live.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Did you say, watch it? So they did this skit
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and it just got me like obsessed with the song.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But and if you had you don't know, you don't
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: because it was just like the funniest skit never. You
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: have to watch it for a while.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You have to watch it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Do you have a secret talent that no one
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: knows about? Hmm? I mean I think I did. I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: posted some like weird things that I could do, but
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the weird things in my mouth or like I can do,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I can actually touch. There's certain like only a certain
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: double jointed like a little bit maybe not maybe not
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: like I used to be, but there's like apparently you
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: can't not everybody can do this or I don't know
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: something I thinks like that. But do you I have
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: this one weird talent where there's a spot on your hand.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: This freaks my kids out. There's a spot on your
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: hand that if you slam it down, it doesn't didn't.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Did I show you this? I don't know. Do you
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: want me to show you?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: No? Yeah, let me show you. Okay, okay, you guys
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: can't see this, maybe you can see it. Let me
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: position the camera so it's this held up this spot
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: in the middle.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Of your hand. Do not try this out the middle
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of your hand right there, wait under the num takeoff.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah this red watch freaked out. Okay, watch hold on,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I care I don't feel anything. If you hit it
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: right there, you don't feel anything.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I wish you guys could see if you are for me.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It freaks everybody a bruise. No, no, no, I do
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: this all the time. You don't feel anything. You do
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: not feel a damn thing. Yeah, it's very strange. Whoa
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I am a weirdo. Hold on, I almost want to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: try it like here. Yeah, we are really digressive. Rate
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: your hand out like that. Yeah, yeah, and then you
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: bang it. You're not going to feel anything.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, I'll do that one day for everybody.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: How we're going to transition from that? It's such a
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: fun thank What am I thankful? Because this is doing that?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I want to say, I'm going to so do that
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is you, the entire family. I will Oh
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: my gosh, what am I thankful for?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm always above and beyond thankful for the fact
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: that I have four healthy children.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Or because you know they say that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: You can have a million problems until you have a
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: health problem, then you have one problem, you know. So
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I'm very grateful that i have four healthy children and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that I'm still celebrating with all four grandparents. That to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: me is above and beyond the number one thing, the
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: fact that you know, with with so much you know,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: upheaval in the world, that I'm in like a peaceful,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: calm home with a loving husband, and you know, all
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the food we could eat, that we have, the luxury
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: of getting full, the really simple things is what I'm
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: grateful for.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I always my grandmother used to always tell me to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: count my blessings. That was like her expression, and I do,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and I try to every day practice like gratitude, but
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: like trying to think because I have those same I'm
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: grateful for the same things that you just mentioned, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: then try to think of like the little things, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I think about, like what an adventure this year has been,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and good and bad. But you know, being on this
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: show Housewives of New Jersey brought me to this podcast,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: these adventures, the adventure that is the show. But also
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: like you know, and I always reference my age, but
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you've been doing this a long time, long much longer
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: than I have. But it's still to me, like sometimes
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: it's a very strange thing to experience, you know, this
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: world of I don't know TV and people and meeting
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: people and having these like new people in my life
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: that you know, I wouldn't have known and getting to
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: do this stuff. It's like, I am grateful, and it
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: is a mixed bag. We both know that it is
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: good and it is bad. And there's the fighting part
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: is bad. The fighting part is bad. There's a lot
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: of at least for me, there's anxiety around a lot
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, there's stuff, but it's also I'm grateful
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: that I had a chance this late in life to
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: have fun, to do this, to have that and Jurie
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it doesn't and no matter what.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Happens with the show, keep reminding yourself, that's that's not
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the end. That's your launching pad for
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: doing other things. You know, I'm grateful, but I'm grateful
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: for that. I'm grateful for Jeff Fessler. I'm always grateful
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: for him. But like, as we're getting older and like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I just think of what we've done in the past year,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and like I just I'm just grateful to be in
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: a peaceful marriage. I think it's so hard. I mean,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: we celebrated twenty five years this April. This past April.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: People are dropping like flies around, like a lot of marriages.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I like every week I feel like a year of
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: another because you do friend or especially like the House
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: right and the Housewife Girl, House Girl. It's like contagious.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, I'm grateful to have that kind
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: of a peaceful life like that with him, you know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: if we're getting specific. Yeah, same, Really grateful for this podcast.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I love doing. Yeah, I've been watching Nobody Wants This?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Did you watch that? Maybe we're Sarah Foster and weis
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: shooting the Hot Rabbit. Yeah, yeah, I watched it and
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: they have their podcast, and I was like, yeah, it's
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a sister. Yes, I love that. It is fun. Yeah,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I hope it's fun for you guys to listen. Yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: me too. And if it is Leaveles Server, yes, yes please. Anyway,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I love this episode, really fun.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I hope that everybody has a really really nice Thanksgiving
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: and you stop for a second and think about what
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: you are grateful for.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Me too, And hopefully it's weird that we're doing this
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: on election day because this world and this country is
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: in quite a bit of upheaval, so days just like
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: stop and breathe.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I really hope that everything is peaceful too,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: no matter who wins, that there's no.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Craziness and come home. Oh yeah so that also, but yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: yeah again for another episode. Okay you guys, happy, happy, happy,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: healthy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving. See you soon.