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Nanci Danison – 33 Souls Who Met God · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. Thirty three souls who were atheist, Agnostic, Catholic, Christian, Buddhist, Taoist, Hindu,
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Speaker 1: or had other religious or spiritual beliefs before they died,
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Speaker 1: progressed deeper into heaven paradise than near death experiencers, and
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Speaker 1: returned to share mind blowing new details about God and
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Speaker 1: the afterlife. What did they discover? My guest this week
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Speaker 1: on Destination Unlimited, Nancy Danison, is one of those thirty
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Speaker 1: three souls and combined their experiences with hers to share
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Speaker 1: a remarkable story. Nancy holds a BS in Biology in
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Speaker 1: Chemistry Magnecum Loud, a BA in Psychology Magnecum Loud, and
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Speaker 1: a doctorate in jurisprudence. She had a nationwide litigation and
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Speaker 1: health law practice for thirty six years and is ranked
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Speaker 1: in the top five percent of attorneys nationwide for competence
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Speaker 1: and ethics in the Martindale Hubble Bar Registry of pre
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Speaker 1: Eminent Lawyers. She's written five books detailing the experiences she
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Speaker 1: lived and information she received in the afterlife following her
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four death. She has come back from the
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Speaker 1: dead multiple times and devotes her entire life to sharing
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Speaker 1: the messages she's brought back from God. Her website it
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Speaker 1: is Nancydanison dot com, and she joins me this week
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Speaker 1: to share her remarkable story and just published book thirty
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Speaker 1: three Souls Who Met God, Accounts of Atheists, Buddhists, and
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Speaker 1: Christians who died and met the same God. Please join
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Speaker 1: me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited. Nancy Denison. Welcome back, Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Victor. I'm so happy to be here.
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Speaker 1: Nancy. This is your third time joining us. We should
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Speaker 1: have the club like they have on Saturday Night Life
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Speaker 1: for the people who come back and join them from
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Speaker 1: time to time. And we're going to be discussing your
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Speaker 1: seventh book. Seventh book.
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Speaker 3: Congratulations, it's actually my sixth book, Victor.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I have Why do I see seven though
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Speaker 1: in the list?
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Speaker 3: I don't know?
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Speaker 1: Okay, your sixth book, Nancy, Congratulations.
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Speaker 3: I've been wondering, if you know I get enough feedback
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Speaker 3: from this book from other expanded afterlife experiencers who might
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Speaker 3: you know send me their story, whether I would be
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Speaker 3: willing to do a seventh book. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Well, seventh is a very special number, so I would
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Speaker 1: go for it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well maybe.
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Speaker 1: Nancy, for listeners meeting you for the first time, please
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Speaker 1: share your early life and your beliefs about life and
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Speaker 1: death when you were younger.
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Speaker 3: I was raised as a Roman Catholic. I went to
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Speaker 3: Catholic school through twelfth grade. I played the organ in search,
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Speaker 3: and I was a Virgin Mary girl. I had an
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Speaker 3: alter to Virgin Mary in my bedroom most of the time,
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Speaker 3: always during May, but you know, most of the time.
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Speaker 3: Then I went to a Methodist college. And I'm so
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Speaker 3: old Victor that when I went to college and we
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Speaker 3: had to go to scholarship, students had to go to
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Speaker 3: church services every Sunday, and we had to wear white
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Speaker 3: gloves and dresses. I think my second year of college
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Speaker 3: that was no longer required. But anyway, so I went
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Speaker 3: to Mythetist college. I got degrees in chemistry and biology
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Speaker 3: together a Bachelor of Science, and then I got a
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Speaker 3: separate degree in psychology as a Bachelor of Arts. Then
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Speaker 3: I worked for a couple of years as a chemist
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Speaker 3: and went to law school. And so now I have
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Speaker 3: a doctorate in jurisprudence, and I practiced law for thirty
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Speaker 3: six years and I retired about ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: What motivated you to study and practice law.
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Speaker 3: Well, I said, tell the truth, I wanted to go
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Speaker 3: to medical school. And while I was getting my degree
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Speaker 3: in biology, I was in charge of the laboratory animals
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Speaker 3: in the biology department, and I did surgery on one
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Speaker 3: and it was a dog and he died. I did
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Speaker 3: surgery on a guinea pitch and the guinea pig died.
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Speaker 3: And I delivered babies in another guinea pig and that
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Speaker 3: didn't go well. So I thought, hey, this is a
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Speaker 3: sign that I'm not supposed to go to medical school.
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Speaker 3: And I didn't have a plan b So I started
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Speaker 3: taking a bunch of tests. I did really well on.
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Speaker 2: The law school and mission test.
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Speaker 3: It's a really inspired choice.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't a victor?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely? You know there's an old joke about a pastor
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Speaker 1: who passes away and he arrives at the pearly gates
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Speaker 1: and he's greeted there by Saint Peter, and Saint Peter
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Speaker 1: shows him this beautiful little cottage and he says, this
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Speaker 1: is going to be this little cottage will be your
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Speaker 1: residence in heaven. And he looks and he says, that's beautiful.
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Speaker 1: And he looks up the hill and he says, this
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Speaker 1: huge mansion at the top of the hill. And he
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Speaker 1: says to Saint Peter, he says, I appreciate my mansion,
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Speaker 1: but who's my cottage? Whose mansion is that? And Saint
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Speaker 1: Peter says that mansion belongs to a lawyer. And the
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Speaker 1: pastor says a lawyer. He says, yes, we have so
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Speaker 1: few of them up here. That's why he has that
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Speaker 1: beautiful mansion. But you that's not the type of lawyer
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Speaker 1: you were. You were a lawyer who was dedicated to
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Speaker 1: advocating for others. How did you receive that calling?
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Speaker 3: Well, because I wanted to go to medical school, I
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Speaker 3: decided maybe the next best thing was to be a
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Speaker 3: health lawyer, and so I studied on my own.
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Speaker 2: You know, while I was working full time, I was
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Speaker 2: going to seminars.
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Speaker 3: And learning health law, and that was primarily representing healthcare providers.
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Speaker 3: You would not believe the kind of trouble that the
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Speaker 3: government can cause for our doctors and hospitals. So I
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Speaker 3: represented them and mostly Medicare, Medicaid audits and criminal investigations.
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Speaker 1: How did you go from being a partner in a
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy attorney law firm to writing six
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Speaker 1: spiritual books.
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Speaker 3: I died. After I died, I just it just turned
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Speaker 3: my home life upside down. Everything I'd ever believed was
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Speaker 3: pulled out from underneath me. I didn't know, I didn't
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Speaker 3: know anything anymore. I mean, I knew the truth from
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Speaker 3: what I was in the afterlife, I didn't know anything
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Speaker 3: about human life. And I just thought, I can't do
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Speaker 3: this anymore, and so I left my big law firm
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Speaker 3: and went out on my own as a single attorney
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Speaker 3: and did just fine. It's scary as ect, but I
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Speaker 3: did just fine. That was the only motivation for it.
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Speaker 3: Was just I couldn't do it anymore. And I also
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Speaker 3: felt like I couldn't subject my partners to the turmoil
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Speaker 3: I was going through. I mean, even after I came
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Speaker 3: back from dying the first time, Victor I am, from
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Speaker 3: time to time would just kind of fall down and
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Speaker 3: I'd go back into the afterlife, you know, for just
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Speaker 3: a few seconds at a time, or I would have
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Speaker 3: flashbacks from the afterlife. I never knew when that was
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Speaker 3: going to happen, and so I thought it might be
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Speaker 3: kind of a liability for my law firm.
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Speaker 1: Please share with our listeners your experience of death, which
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Speaker 1: one the first one?
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Speaker 3: I It upsets my body terribly to talk about it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm more than willing to talk about the afterlife, but
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Speaker 3: the actual dying process, it just upsets her too much,
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Speaker 3: you know. I will say that I was in a
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Speaker 3: mimography room having what's called a needle localization procedure, which
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Speaker 3: was necessary before a breast cancer surgery, because not every
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Speaker 3: breast cancer forms a lump. Sometimes it shows up on
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Speaker 3: a mammogram as calcium deposits, and so I had to
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Speaker 3: have mammograms and a radiologist sticking a needle into the
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Speaker 3: center of these three humors, and the combination of the
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Speaker 3: two shots of local anesthetic that she gave me, and
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Speaker 3: very low blood sugar and a racing heart, and my
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Speaker 3: heart just eventually stopped and I was gone.
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Speaker 1: How long was the actual experience and how long did
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Speaker 1: it seem to you?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Exactly. The radiologists and radiology technician left
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Speaker 3: the room and left me sitting there alone, and I
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Speaker 3: was concentrating on trying to slow my heart down. They
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Speaker 3: were gone for half an hour and I came back
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Speaker 3: after they came back.
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Speaker 2: Into the room.
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Speaker 3: For me, it was it was a lifetime. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I lived eternal life in the afterlife, but it wasn't. See,
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Speaker 3: there's no linear time once you're out a body. Only
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Speaker 3: humans measure time and bits and bites, and only humans
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Speaker 3: experience time in a linear fashion. You know, this happens
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Speaker 3: and then that happens. It's not like that. Once you
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Speaker 3: get out of body, everything's all ones. So I could
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Speaker 3: live a lifetime in you know, thirty minutes.
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Speaker 1: What would you share with those who feared death?
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Speaker 3: It is just waking up from this human incarnation, nothing more.
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Speaker 3: I learned in the afterlife that we are all literally
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Speaker 3: part of the Creator and we never leave its mind
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Speaker 3: and heart ever. So there's nothing to fear that. You
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Speaker 3: can't go to hell, you can't go anywhere but waking
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Speaker 3: up within the Creator's mind again. But you know, it's
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Speaker 3: it's something that most religions and spiritual philosophies don't teach.
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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times the religions will say
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Speaker 3: that we're children of God, and that gives a false
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Speaker 3: impression because children are definitely separate from their parents.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: In human life, we are not separate from our creator.
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Speaker 3: We exist solely within its mind, and it puts little
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Speaker 3: bits and pieces of its consciousness and self awareness in
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Speaker 3: the form of what we call souls into physical life
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Speaker 3: all over the universe. But they're still connected to know
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Speaker 3: the Creator's mind, just like our dream characters are still
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Speaker 3: on our mind.
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Speaker 2: They don't go anywhere when we wake up.
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Speaker 1: As wonderful as this experience must have been, you came back.
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Speaker 3: Why I thought it? But all through my first after
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Speaker 3: I experience and I had I got the answer to
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Speaker 3: all my questions. I watched a complete history of Earth,
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Speaker 3: I watched all of creation. I reawakened to the knowledge
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Speaker 3: that I was actually the creator, that I was source.
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Speaker 3: All through that, I kept saying, in the back of
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Speaker 3: my mind, somebody, I'll tell those people, you know, because
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Speaker 3: nothing that I had believed as a Catholic was true
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Speaker 3: for me in the afterlife, and I just thought, somebody's
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Speaker 3: got to tell those people down there on Earth, you know,
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Speaker 3: and as I was well, right before I was sent
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Speaker 3: back or came back into this body, I was still thinking,
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Speaker 3: somebody's got to tell those people. And then I realized
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Speaker 3: I was going like through a whirlwind back into my body,
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Speaker 3: and I was saying, I didn't mean me, I'm not
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Speaker 3: voluntary for this, but here I am.
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Speaker 1: What you did volunteer, didn't you? Apparently, so you've shared
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Speaker 1: that you for seven years after returning? Why and what
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Speaker 1: was that like?
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Speaker 3: I grieved the loss of everything I believed before. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I was thrilled to find out that I am literally
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Speaker 3: you know, the creator, that I'm literally source, that I'm
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Speaker 3: just one time in a little bit of its consciousness
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Speaker 3: and self awareness, but I've never been separate from it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that was thrilling. But I liked the Catholic religion.
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Speaker 3: I liked going to mass, I liked communion. I liked
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Speaker 3: to pomp and circumstance. And I missed it. I couldn't
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Speaker 3: believe it anymore because I knew it wasn't true, and
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Speaker 3: I missed it. And I liked the life I had before.
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Speaker 3: I liked being a lawyer, and I.
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Speaker 2: Liked being.
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Speaker 3: Hated at times, and I just wasn't that person anymore.
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Speaker 2: So I was grieving the.
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Speaker 3: Loss of the aspects of the personality that I had
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Speaker 3: before I died, as well as my religion. And then
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Speaker 3: I left my firm. When I was.
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Speaker 2: Greeting that.
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Speaker 1: When you say you left your religion, there was a
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Speaker 1: song by rim losing my religion. What was that experience.
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Speaker 3: Like like having the rug pulled out from underneath you
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Speaker 3: and you didn't know where you were falling to and
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Speaker 3: what you were going to hit.
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Speaker 1: Was it the message of the religion of the Catholic
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Speaker 1: Church that was so missed by you? Or was it
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Speaker 1: something else?
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Speaker 3: I think as being part of that tribe, you know,
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Speaker 3: being part of the you know, it's a majority of
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Speaker 3: religion on earth, and I miss belonging, you know, since
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Speaker 3: I've been delivering this message, you know, since nineteen ninety four,
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Speaker 3: I have found a community of like souls. In fact,
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Speaker 3: you know, my latest book is about you know, the
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Speaker 3: other thirty two people I found that had similar experiences.
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Speaker 3: And I have lots of wonderful experiences of friends that
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Speaker 3: I've made through my webinars and through my books and
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Speaker 3: you know all that. But it's not the same as
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Speaker 3: being born into and living within a religious community of
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Speaker 3: like minded people.
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Speaker 1: I missed that you had additional out of body experiences
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Speaker 1: after dying. Please share those with us.
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Speaker 3: I had. I don't know how many of I had
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Speaker 3: a bunch of them, like I used to, you know,
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Speaker 3: just fall down on the floor and I'd be back
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Speaker 3: in the afterlife. My office manager come and find me
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Speaker 3: laying in my office floor, and sometimes I would just
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Speaker 3: come to on the floor. Some of them were I
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Speaker 3: flashed back to other physical lifetimes that I had lived
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Speaker 3: that I watched, and I remembered living while I was
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Speaker 3: in the afterlife. But once I came back, I would
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Speaker 3: have flashbacks to that. And I can remember crawling on
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Speaker 3: my hands and knees down the hallway in my office suite,
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Speaker 3: and I was some kind of a big cat, and
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Speaker 3: I could feel the whiskers, and I could feel the
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Speaker 3: furry belly like swaying back and forth as I walked,
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Speaker 3: and I could feel that I was a feared and
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Speaker 3: vicious creature. And I had flashbacks or visits later on.
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Speaker 3: I had one. I had another life review. I had
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Speaker 3: an experience when I was writing my second third book,
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Speaker 3: Backwards Beliefs, where I wash back in the afterlife, and
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Speaker 3: I got a download of every single thing that had
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Speaker 3: ever been written by a human at any time ever
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Speaker 3: in the history of Earth, including telephone messages and post
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Speaker 3: it notes and homework assignments and you know, just everything.
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Speaker 3: And I just had from time to time other out
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Speaker 3: of body experiences. I had three what are classic near
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Speaker 3: death experiences where I was in the hospital dying and
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Speaker 3: I got out of body, and you know, watched surgery
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Speaker 3: a couple of times, watch the er doctor like through walls,
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Speaker 3: running down the hallways to get to me to try
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Speaker 3: to give me an infusion before I died. They were
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Speaker 3: all different and unique, but wonderful in their own way.
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Speaker 1: Why did you choose the word backwards in the titles
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Speaker 1: of your books about your experiences?
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Speaker 2: That was given to me. You might know a little
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Speaker 2: bit about that.
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Speaker 3: When it took about seven years for me to get
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Speaker 3: over the grieving and to process the experience I had.
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Speaker 3: And during those seven years, I was talking to doctors
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Speaker 3: who were telling me I would I had hallucinated, and
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Speaker 3: I was reading and you know, trying to find out
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Speaker 3: what happened to me. And I had seen this movie
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Speaker 3: Daniel Brinkley's story Saved by the light, and I saw that.
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Speaker 3: I thought, that's it. That's what happened to me. I know,
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Speaker 3: I didn't make it up and this so then I
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Speaker 3: started reading into ebooks. But after like about seven years
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Speaker 3: of that, my body kind of crashed. I lost. I
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Speaker 3: couldn't keep a normal heart rate or a rhythm, or
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Speaker 3: blood pressure or temperature or anything else, and so I
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Speaker 3: couldn't work. And during that time, I would wake up
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Speaker 3: at four thirty in the morning with a chapter in
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Speaker 3: my head, and I would go to the kitchen. I
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Speaker 3: would sit down and I would type the chapter, and
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Speaker 3: then that was the end of it for the day.
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Speaker 3: And I generated a thousand pages. And then one morning
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Speaker 3: I woke up and the organization of them was in
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Speaker 3: my mind, and so they organized into three books, and
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Speaker 3: I had a chapter table of contents in my mind.
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Speaker 3: Another morning, I woke up and the title Backwards was
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Speaker 3: in my mind, along with a picture that or an
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Speaker 3: accent painting. I was supposed to do a painting of
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Speaker 3: source or the afterlife or something to go along with
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Speaker 3: the title, but I never did the painting.
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Speaker 1: But you painted with words, Yes, absolutely tell us just
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Speaker 1: a little bit. For listeners who are not familiar with
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Speaker 1: your Backwards series about the backwards books.
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Speaker 3: The backwards books were the actually two, well there are
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Speaker 3: three of them, but there was a fourth one about
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Speaker 3: love that I I lost some computer hard drive crashed.
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Speaker 3: So the three backwards books are backwards returning to our
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Speaker 3: source for answers, which was kind of an overview of everything,
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Speaker 3: you know, like view from thirty thousand feet. Because I
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Speaker 3: was hoping I could get one book published. I didn't
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Speaker 3: think there's an age, it's I could get th re published.
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Speaker 3: The second book, back which guide book, is the rest
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Speaker 3: of what I wanted to put in the first book,
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Speaker 3: but I was afraid I wasn't going to be able
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Speaker 3: to get that many pages published. And it also includes
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Speaker 3: answers to questions the readers were asking me, so it's
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Speaker 3: organizing the question and answer format. And then the third book,
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Speaker 3: Backwards Belief, was all about that, you know, the seven
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Speaker 3: years of greeting my religion, and the way I got
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Speaker 3: peace around that whole issue was by writing backwards Beliefs
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Speaker 3: and understanding that. You know, what I was shown in
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Speaker 3: the life is that human religions are based primarily on
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Speaker 3: the human experience, because that's all you know there is
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Speaker 3: to work with when when you don't know anything besides
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Speaker 3: human life. And so humans projected human traits onto God.
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Speaker 3: They project earth like scenery and lifestyle onto the afterlife
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Speaker 3: because that's all they have. You know, it's it's impossible
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Speaker 3: to imagine the reality of source from the afterlife because
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Speaker 3: there's nothing like.
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Speaker 2: It in human life.
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Speaker 3: So, you know, I finally came to peaceful the fact
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Speaker 3: that you know, people weren't lying to me or withholding
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Speaker 3: information or trying to trick me. They just didn't know.
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Speaker 3: And so I that all the chapters and backwards beliefs
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Speaker 3: start with the idea that, you know, here's what I
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Speaker 3: learned as a Christian, and here's like an add to
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Speaker 3: it from what I learned in the afterlife to make
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Speaker 3: the story more complete.
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Speaker 1: The last time you were on, we discussed your book
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Speaker 1: Create a New Reaction, Move Beyond Law of Attraction theory.
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Speaker 1: What did you share with readers in that book?
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Speaker 3: That is everything I can remember from the afterlife about
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Speaker 3: learning what manifesting is. I had three experiences in the
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Speaker 3: afterlife where I got these huge downloads of manifesting and
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Speaker 3: that is the term used in the afterlife for the
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Speaker 3: creator creating physical matter, the physical universe. And I was
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Speaker 3: taught in the afterlife that we tiny little parts of
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Speaker 3: the creator of Source have the same ability to literally
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Speaker 3: create physical matter and physical reality, and we do that
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Speaker 3: for the bodies we have it. So, you know, all
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Speaker 3: those people who think they're the victim of circumstances or
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Speaker 3: that they have no control over their lives, you know,
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Speaker 3: this book Creating New Reality tells you what I learned
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Speaker 3: directly from Source about how we do have control over
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Speaker 3: our lives, that we literally, from moment to moment, create
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Speaker 3: the physical life that we are living. The reason why
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Speaker 3: we don't like large parts of it is because we
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Speaker 3: come up with these crazy, harmful beliefs early in childhood.
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Speaker 3: You know, like we might, for some crazy reason, think
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Speaker 3: that we're not worth anything. You know, maybe it's the
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Speaker 3: way we're treated by our parents or a sibling, or
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guests, the wonderful Nancy Donison,
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Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about her brand new book,
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Speaker 1: Thirty three Souls Who Met God accounts from Atheists, Buddhists,
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Speaker 3: I have been looking for others like me since nineteen
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Speaker 3: ninety four. I knew I couldn't be the only soul
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Speaker 3: that had the experience that I did. And I read,
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Speaker 3: all the research works that I could find. I watched
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Speaker 3: YouTube videos as I read accounts on the internet, just
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Speaker 3: can find him on YouTube.
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Speaker 2: He's wonderful.
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Speaker 3: And I thought, oh, there's two of us. And I
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Speaker 3: figured out, well, if there are two of us, there's
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Speaker 3: got to be more. So I three years ago made
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Speaker 3: a concerted effort to review near death experience accounts on
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Speaker 3: the Near Death Experience Research Foundation website, and so all
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Speaker 3: together over the thirty years, I reviewed and cogitated on
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Speaker 3: about two thousand experiences, and among the two thousand, I
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Speaker 3: found thirty two others like me. Now they didn't, you know,
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Speaker 3: have all the same experiences in the act like that.
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Speaker 2: I did.
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Speaker 3: Some of them had some of the ones that I did.
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Speaker 3: Others had other experiences I had. You know, nobody was identical,
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Speaker 3: but they all had experiences like mine in some respect.
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Speaker 3: But the most important part is they learned exactly what
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Speaker 3: I learned about Source the Creator, about the creation of
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Speaker 3: the universe, about the creation of souls, about the purpose
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Speaker 3: of life and why we are here. And I was
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Speaker 3: so validated by.
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Speaker 1: That, just out of curiosity. The number thirty three has
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Speaker 1: a very strong spiritual significance. Did you ever resonate on that.
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 3: I heard that. I did an interview much long ago,
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Speaker 3: and somebody told me, actually somebody else time as a network,
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Speaker 3: told me that thirty three was significant. I did not
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Speaker 3: know that the book was for a long time thirty
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Speaker 3: two souls. And then after I had it finished, I
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Speaker 3: found another one. So I had to go back and
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Speaker 3: edit the whole thing to add the thirty third, and
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Speaker 3: I'm so glad I did.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's a certain amount of power and the number
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Speaker 1: thirty three. Number thirty three is associated with Jesus Christ,
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Speaker 1: et cetera, so there's a lot of connections with that.
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Speaker 1: So it's good that you did the descriptions of God
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Speaker 1: shared by those you interviewed was quite different from what
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Speaker 1: we might expect. How did they describe God and how
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Speaker 1: did this relate to your experience.
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Speaker 3: That was the first indication when I read a near
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Speaker 3: death experience or saul one on the internet that it
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Speaker 3: was somebody like me. It was their description of source,
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Speaker 3: because you know, religions are all like I say, they're
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Speaker 3: projections of human life onto God. And so most religions
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Speaker 3: have a God that is humanoid. Christianity has actual a father,
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Speaker 3: you know, a male God and a male son. Other
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Speaker 3: religions had, you know, like a Buddha or goddesses or
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Speaker 3: you know zeus. You know, all kinds of different gods
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Speaker 3: have been in fashion around the world at various times,
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Speaker 3: but they've all been humanoid in nature. The hallmark of
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Speaker 3: what I call an expanded afterlife experiencer, someone who goes
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Speaker 3: into the afterlife and hasn't expanded experience or expansive or
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Speaker 3: deep experience, is that we have seen the Creator in
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Speaker 3: its raw source energy in its raw form, and it's
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Speaker 3: pure form with no human projections on it. And the
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Speaker 3: thirty three Souls described Source as energy, a force field
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Speaker 3: of love, a river of sparkles, a collection of golden orbs.
30:45
Speaker 3: A energetic thing was like sparkles or you know, blue
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Speaker 3: lightning bolts of energy or energy that's alive and vibrant
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Speaker 3: and moving. And that's what I experienced. You experienced Source
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Speaker 3: as an energy field. And everyone agrees of the thirty
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Speaker 3: three that what that energy feels like when we're anywhere
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Speaker 3: near it is love. What humans think of as love
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Speaker 3: is actually the creator sources energy. It's a fabulous experience
31:26
Speaker 3: to be that close to Source, to just be blasted
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Speaker 3: with unconditional love.
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Speaker 1: You share that souls come from Source and that we
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Speaker 1: are collectively God, please explain.
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Speaker 3: All of the thirty three while that you know, once
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Speaker 3: they encountered this energetic phenomenon, also saw that it had
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Speaker 3: a collective nature. It was just it was one, but
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Speaker 3: also had a collection of like sub personalities or mental
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Speaker 3: characters or kind of like our dream characters. You know,
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Speaker 3: if you wanted to, you could think of our own
32:13
Speaker 3: mind as being our core personality plus all the dream
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Speaker 3: characters we've ever had that are in there too. Or
32:23
Speaker 3: maybe a novelist and you know, somebody who's written a
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Speaker 3: lot of novels, maybe they'll have different groups of characters
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Speaker 3: in different sets of novels, and they keep all those
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Speaker 3: imaginary book characters in their mind. So it's kind of
32:38
Speaker 3: like that we all recognize that Source is a collection
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Speaker 3: of what humans would call souls. Those souls are actually
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Speaker 3: part of sources own consciousness and self awareness. So there's
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Speaker 3: only one consciousness and existence, one self awareness. But we
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Speaker 3: all we souls inside these bodies. We share that little
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Speaker 3: bit of it, you know, not the whole thing, obviously,
33:08
Speaker 3: And so that was another defining characteristic of someone who
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Speaker 3: had an experience like me, is that they became aware
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Speaker 3: or recognized that Source is a collective entity, and they
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Speaker 3: also realized through their experience in the afterlife that they are.
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Speaker 5: It.
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Speaker 3: They are the phenomenon. You know. We are all part
33:33
Speaker 3: of Source. We are all Source, and when we leave
33:36
Speaker 3: it incarnation and we return to the Source, we become
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Speaker 3: aware that we are Source once more. And if we
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Speaker 3: want to incarnate again, we just differentiate ourselves from the
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Speaker 3: collective and go back into a physical matter body somewhere
33:53
Speaker 3: in the universe.
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Speaker 2: It's totally mind blowing.
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Speaker 1: When I was in the New Seminary and Intricate Seminary
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Speaker 1: back in the nineteen nineties, one of the teachings was
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Speaker 1: that when God created humanity, Adam and Eve, that from
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Speaker 1: that point forward he said, I do nothing, I do
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Speaker 1: nothing on my own. I do nothing my own from
34:17
Speaker 1: now on, I do everything with you. Through you. You
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Speaker 1: go on to share in your book that in essence
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Speaker 1: that we are the experiential extension of Source. What does
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Speaker 1: that mean?
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Speaker 3: What the thirty three were given as knowings in the
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Speaker 3: actual life when they were within Source was that the
34:38
Speaker 3: purpose of life was for Source to get to know itself,
34:43
Speaker 3: to you know, stretch its mental and creative and emotional
34:47
Speaker 3: limits to see what all they could do. In order
34:52
Speaker 3: to really reflect upon itself and to know itself, it
34:58
Speaker 3: had to have another perspective beside its own, so started
35:02
Speaker 3: creating these mental characters with which it could interact, same
35:05
Speaker 3: way we do in dreams. And you know, depending on
35:08
Speaker 3: what kind of dreams you have, you might learn something
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Speaker 3: about yourself through the eyes of a dream character the
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Speaker 3: way they treat you. But that's what Source point wanted.
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Speaker 3: It wanted to experience itself and everything that it could imagine,
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Speaker 3: everything that it could create, and everything that it could become.
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Speaker 3: But through the eyes of others it created all these
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Speaker 3: others in its mind what we call souls, and put
35:35
Speaker 3: them into the physical universe that it created and holds
35:38
Speaker 3: in its mind. The universe is not separate from the creator.
35:42
Speaker 3: It's within the creator's mind, just the same way our
35:45
Speaker 3: dream scapes are within our own linds on a much
35:48
Speaker 3: grander scale.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, So in that event, if this is the experiential extension,
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Speaker 1: you know, and virtually every religion around the world, there
35:59
Speaker 1: an of the Golden rule. Love thy neighbor as thyself,
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Speaker 1: do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.
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Speaker 1: But some people come and they incarnate, and they're not
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Speaker 1: the nicest in the world. What explanation do you have
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Speaker 1: for that?
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Speaker 3: What I was told and some of the other thirty
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Speaker 3: three is that we souls are literally Source. We have
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Speaker 3: the same innate nature, which is unconditionally loving, non judging, creative, curious, funny,
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Speaker 3: fun loving. And then also Source gave us character personality
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Speaker 3: traits that it can imagine but doesn't personally have. And
36:45
Speaker 3: so each of us is a combination of Source and
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Speaker 3: these other traits, and we exist separately and apart from
36:56
Speaker 3: physical matter. The physical world was created by Source expelling
37:04
Speaker 3: a huge amount of mental energy and then imposing what
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Speaker 3: we would call laws of nature on that energy. You know,
37:14
Speaker 3: things like gravity, molecular cohesion, and chemical reactions, the laws
37:20
Speaker 3: of physics. Those were all like guide rails set around
37:25
Speaker 3: this energy for it to evolve and let it just go,
37:29
Speaker 3: like let that energy go to see what it could
37:32
Speaker 3: create and what would evolve over time, And eventually what
37:35
Speaker 3: evolved was you know, the universe as we observe it now, stars, moons, suns,
37:41
Speaker 3: you know, empty space or what seems to be empty space,
37:45
Speaker 3: you know, galaxies galore, all of which we can incarnate into.
37:51
Speaker 3: So Source puts these mental characters, personalities, what we call souls,
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Speaker 3: into thehysical matter. And one of those types of physical
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Speaker 3: matter that we can choose to incarnate into is humans.
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Speaker 3: I watched, you know, the creation of Earth, a creation
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Speaker 3: of all life on Earth. I watched the evolution of humans,
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Speaker 3: and you know, I saw them go from chemicals and
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Speaker 3: goo to what we see now, and we souls can
38:19
Speaker 3: choose to enter into them. Humans are alive, they're biological creatures.
38:25
Speaker 3: They do not need a soul in order to live.
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Speaker 3: Most of them have souls, but they are as well.
38:34
Speaker 3: Some people call them a vessel, but they're way more
38:36
Speaker 3: than that, you know, because they're alive, they have personality,
38:39
Speaker 3: they have a lifespan, and they have experiences. You know,
38:43
Speaker 3: what humans live is all they're ever going to know.
38:47
Speaker 3: We souls inside them have eternal life, and we come
38:51
Speaker 3: and we share a human's life with it, with him
38:54
Speaker 3: or her in order to see, you know, what they experienced,
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Speaker 3: what their life is like.
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Speaker 1: So the essence of compassion, of forgiveness, of loving kindness
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Speaker 1: is a choice.
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Speaker 3: It's the nature of the soul within the body. All humans,
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Speaker 3: like all other animals, have the survival instinct, you know,
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Speaker 3: which leads them to be self absorbed, selfish, violent, combative, competitive,
39:34
Speaker 3: you know, everything that an animal needs to do to survive.
39:38
Speaker 3: That's what humans do. They're just animals. And when we
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Speaker 3: souls enter into a human, we may or may not
39:45
Speaker 3: be able to show our own personality through the actions
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Speaker 3: of the animal we're inhabiting. And because we come here
39:54
Speaker 3: to experience, you know, the physical life that's available to
39:59
Speaker 3: us through our host. It doesn't matter. If we spend
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Speaker 3: a whole life acting like an animal, that's fine, that's
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Speaker 3: why we're here. If we spend a life more like
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Speaker 3: you do, you know, being of spiritual mind and body
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Speaker 3: and soul and helping others and you know, performing a
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Speaker 3: mission like we both do. That's fine too, it's not necessary.
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Speaker 3: So what we see in human behavior is a conbined
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Speaker 3: effort of animal and soul, sometimes fighting each other. That's
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Speaker 3: where we get that idea of an angel on one
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Speaker 3: huldren and a devil on the other. It's really two
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Speaker 3: personalities in one body, the animal personality with all of
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Speaker 3: its drives and instincts for survival and for me me
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Speaker 3: and me, me, me, because that's the way humans are,
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Speaker 3: along with all the instincts and personality traits of the
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Speaker 3: soul of source, which are love and compassionate and non
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Speaker 3: judgmentalists and you know, doing what's the us for everyone
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Speaker 3: concerned learning and being curious and creative and all that's
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Speaker 3: all goes into a mishmash into one body. And what
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Speaker 3: we see is, you know, how those forces interact and
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Speaker 3: combine or fight each other.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that I've personally recognized, especially the
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Speaker 1: last few years, is that I'll meet someone who I've
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Speaker 1: never met in this lifetime, and by the time I've
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Speaker 1: spoken with them for five minutes, I sense that their
41:32
Speaker 1: sole family that I've traveled with this person or the
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Speaker 1: soul before. Are their sole families and do they incarnate together?
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Speaker 3: I think family carries a connotation to animal like in nature,
41:49
Speaker 3: because we're not related to the souls that we love.
41:51
Speaker 3: But we do have loved ones. When I died, the
41:55
Speaker 3: first time I met or reunited with my five most
41:59
Speaker 3: belovity eternal friends, none of whom I've ever incarnated with.
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Speaker 3: But we do have these eternal loved ones, and we can,
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Speaker 3: if we like, decide to incarnate with them, or we
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Speaker 3: may just know other souls in the afterlife that we
42:17
Speaker 3: decide we want to incarnate with. And you know, it's
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Speaker 3: a huge gift when you realize that, you know, when
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Speaker 3: you're living in a human life and you realize, I
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Speaker 3: know this person from the afterlife and you recognize them
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Speaker 3: in a body I've done that, that's you know, and
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Speaker 3: you usually know right away that there's somebody that you've
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Speaker 3: known in the afterlife.
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Speaker 1: And it's a special gift, isn't it?
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Speaker 3: It really is.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Donnison. Her book Thirty Three Souls Who Met God
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Speaker 1: accounts from Atheists, Buddhists, and Christians who died met the
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Speaker 1: same God. Nancy, what form do we assume in the afterlife?
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Speaker 1: If we don't have these material bodies? What are we
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Speaker 1: like in the afterlife?
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Speaker 3: Early on, we might perceive ourselves as maybe a light
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Speaker 3: being or energy, or something vaguely humanoid in shape.
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Speaker 2: Or not at all.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's just some of the thirty three did
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Speaker 3: Most of them did not. But I know other afterlife
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Speaker 3: experiencers who have kind of a perception of a spiritual body.
45:34
Speaker 3: But that drops away, you know, once we get used
45:37
Speaker 3: to being in the afterlife, it's completely gone, and we
45:41
Speaker 3: perceive ourselves as a point of awareness, a mind maybe
45:47
Speaker 3: a personality without any physical components of all, a state
45:53
Speaker 3: of existence, a state of awareness.
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Speaker 1: Do we actually have what some people call a life review?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, In fact, I was, I've had two, and
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Speaker 3: I was told that the life review is kind of
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Speaker 3: a It's one of the early aspects of being in
46:12
Speaker 3: the afterlife because its purpose is to help us acclimate
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Speaker 3: to the fact that we're no longer in human life,
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Speaker 3: and also to open us up to our own natural,
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Speaker 3: unconditional love, so that we can watch the life that
46:29
Speaker 3: we just left from an attitude of unconditional love and
46:34
Speaker 3: learn about ourselves and about how we impacted other people.
46:39
Speaker 3: We might learn the why of everything, you know, like.
46:43
Speaker 2: Why did we so do this? Or why did I
46:46
Speaker 2: do that? Or why did this happen?
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Speaker 3: You get all those wise answer during the life review.
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Speaker 3: You can also get inside other souls and perceive yourself
46:56
Speaker 3: from their perspective and feel their emotions and hear their
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Speaker 3: thoughts and understand objectively what was going on in a transaction,
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Speaker 3: what kind of impact you had on them and them
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Speaker 3: on you. And you can also in a life review
47:13
Speaker 3: see what might have happened if you'd made a different choice.
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Speaker 3: It's a wonderful, wonderful experience, multidimensional, multi media. And then
47:23
Speaker 3: some of the thirty three, which is another kind of
47:25
Speaker 3: defining characteristic of having it expanded afterlife experience. Some of
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Speaker 3: them saw during the life review like I did, other
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Speaker 3: lifetimes that they had lived or infinity wo and some
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Speaker 3: of them saw the future I did in my second
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Speaker 3: life review, I saw my own future. So it's a
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Speaker 3: really it's a humbling, it's a grounding. It's a transitioning
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Speaker 3: type of experience to bridge the gap between living the
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Speaker 3: life you thought you were and you the personnelity you
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Speaker 3: thought you were, and realizing that there was so much
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Speaker 3: more to you than that.
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Speaker 1: Is life as an incarnate soul in the material dimension?
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Speaker 1: Is it real or is it an illusion?
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Speaker 3: Both? It's absolutely real for the physical matter being or
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Speaker 3: thing that you're inhabiting, like you know, Victor the human
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Speaker 3: animal and Nancy the human animal are completely real to
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Speaker 3: them and to other humans and to the physical universe.
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Speaker 3: But we souls. Once we get out and we return
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Speaker 3: home to the afterlife, we realize that because we've got
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Speaker 3: this broader perspective, we've got this eternal perspective, we've got
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Speaker 3: this infinity to look back on and forward to. We
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Speaker 3: realize that human life wasn't the real us. It was
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Speaker 3: a real experience for the body, but it wasn't the
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Speaker 3: real us. That we're so much more than that. We
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Speaker 3: have so many other lifetimes, so many other experiences that
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Speaker 3: you know, human life is just a drop in the bucket.
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Speaker 1: Is there an actual heaven or Hell?
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Speaker 3: I learned that there is no hell. I watched creation twice,
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Speaker 3: and I was with Source and remembered what life was
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Speaker 3: like before Source created the universe, and there was no
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Speaker 3: satan or devil or evil spirit or there's no opposite
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Speaker 3: to you know, the unconditionally loving Source. So I saw
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Speaker 3: and I also learned from you know, having downloads of
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Speaker 3: knowledge from Source, that no such creature like that exists.
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Speaker 3: Human religions and human spiritual beliefs have created various forms
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Speaker 3: of devils and evil spirits that resigned in a fictitious health.
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Speaker 3: But we don't need to fear that because it doesn't
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Speaker 3: really exist. Heaven is a humanized version of earth life.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's perceived as having beautiful gardens and mansions,
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Speaker 3: and you know, earth life only supercharged, and that doesn't
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Speaker 3: exist either. What exists is so much better. I mean,
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Speaker 3: being completely saturated with unconditional love and unconditional acceptance, and
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Speaker 3: freedom of thought and freedom of movement, and the ability
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Speaker 3: to download any amount of information or knowledge that you want,
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Speaker 3: to be able to merge into others that you love
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Speaker 3: in the afterlife and live their lifetimes and have them
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Speaker 3: live yours and emerge together and awaken source. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's just it's just beyond comprehension for a human. Yes,
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Speaker 3: but I will tell you, and you know this. The
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Speaker 3: first time I was in the afterlife, you know, I
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Speaker 3: was im bliss, But I missed some things about human life.
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Speaker 3: I miss chocolate, I missed the wind on my face,
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Speaker 3: I miss the feeling of sunshine. I miss being able
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Speaker 3: to feel a hug. So there are some exquisitely wonderful
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Speaker 3: things about human life that we take for granted that
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Speaker 3: even though the afterlife is sublimely blissful, and some respects
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Speaker 3: to be more desired than human life. There are some really,
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Speaker 3: really rich and wonderful parts of human life that we
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Speaker 3: come here for, like sex. I mean, some souls come
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Speaker 3: here just for a sex. One of the afterlife experiences
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Speaker 3: I read said that, you know, she learned in the
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Speaker 3: afterlife that we might come here just for the cake, just.
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Speaker 2: Like I come here just for the chocolate.
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Speaker 3: You know, there are just some delicious treats in human
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Speaker 3: life if we would only stop and enjoy them.
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Speaker 1: And again, as we shared, we are the experiential extension
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Speaker 1: of Source. So consequently, every time we have that wonderful,
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Speaker 1: delicious piece of cake, Sources having that wonderful, delicious piece
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Speaker 1: of cake.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Source is a chocoholic myself.
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Speaker 2: That's an explanation for why I think so much.
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Speaker 3: Jarga.
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Speaker 1: That's funny. How did these experiences affect the religious beliefs
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Speaker 1: of those who return from the experience.
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Speaker 3: Most of them give up their former religious beliefs because
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Speaker 3: they're incompatible with what they actually lived. Among my thirty three, though,
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Speaker 3: the ones who had a background in Buddhism or Hinduism,
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Speaker 3: and one Native American, they're believe some more aligned with
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Speaker 3: what they learned in the afterlife, and so they didn't
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Speaker 3: really give those up. My added to them. But all
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Speaker 3: the Christians came back with a completely different idea of
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Speaker 3: source and souls and heaven and everything else, and so
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Speaker 3: they abandoned their formal religious instruction and beliefs.
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Speaker 1: What would you like readers to take away from thirty
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Speaker 1: three souls who met God?
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Speaker 3: The thing that jumps out at me the most is
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Speaker 3: that these were all humans with vastly different beliefs, different lifestyles,
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Speaker 3: different ages, races, sexes. You know, they were just completely
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Speaker 3: different when you just look at the human but when
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Speaker 3: they went into the afterlife, they were the same. They
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Speaker 3: all had the same experience that they all recognized and
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Speaker 3: realized and became the same God, and all the divisiveness
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Speaker 3: of their human religions was gone. And I think that's
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Speaker 3: an important lesson of co Urus, particularly right now, when
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Speaker 3: you know people are so divided over every single thing,
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Speaker 3: every single thought that a person can have, is that
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Speaker 3: none of that matters. We're all really just one literally,
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Speaker 3: not figuratively, not spiritually, but literally, and that if we
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Speaker 3: could get in touch with that more, we wouldn't have
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Speaker 3: the strife and the anger and the violence and the
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Speaker 3: upheables that humans are currently experiencing worldwide.
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Speaker 1: My guest Nancy Dinason her book thirty Three Souls Who
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Speaker 1: Met God, accounts from Atheists, Buddhists, and Christians who died
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Speaker 1: and met the same God. Nancy, one more time, please
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Speaker 1: share with our listeners where they can get your books
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Speaker 1: and find out more about you.
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Speaker 3: You can get my books. The easiest way is just
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Speaker 3: to go on Amazon, and I think they've got them
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Speaker 3: at Amazon UK and maybe some of the others. I'm
54:56
Speaker 3: not sure about that, but I think they have Barnes, Nobles,
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Speaker 3: Target Kmart, just not any bookstore can order them if
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Speaker 3: they don't have it on the shelf, and you can
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Speaker 3: order them for me Nancy and A N C I
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Speaker 3: Danison d A n I s O N dot com
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Speaker 3: and tell.
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Speaker 1: Us about the gatherings that you offer there.
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Speaker 3: Also, once a month, I have webinars over zoom to
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Speaker 3: present the information that I received in the afterlife on
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Speaker 3: a particular topic, and then we discuss it and people
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Speaker 3: ask me questions and I ask them questions, and then
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Speaker 3: I sell the video of the presentation part, but not
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Speaker 3: the discussion part. So I like to keep those as
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Speaker 3: just an informal exchange of ideas between the people who
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Speaker 3: actually participate. So you can either attend the webinar in
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Speaker 3: person and participate, or you can get a view the
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Speaker 3: video after the fact.
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Speaker 1: Nancy, thank you so much for joining us again and
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Speaker 1: sharing this amazing information.
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Speaker 3: Thank you Victor for having me and for putting up
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Speaker 3: with my inability to concentrate because you know, the afterlife
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Speaker 3: is so compelling it just draws me.
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Speaker 1: And thank you for joining us on destination on Livehead.
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Speaker 1: I'm Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.