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Sharri | 22 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News Bits Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, and that's a wrap on the leader's debate.
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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get through tonight. But first
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Speaker 2: we just saw Stephen Miles and David Chris Fuley go
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Speaker 2: head to head in their last fiery debate as they
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Speaker 2: try to win over undecided voters. This was a crucial
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Speaker 2: test with Queenslanders heading.
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Speaker 1: To the polls in just four days.
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Speaker 2: Neither leader could afford a slip up. Now, the polls
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Speaker 2: have for some time predicted a landslide win for the NP,
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Speaker 2: but Labor just this week is closing the gap. As
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Speaker 2: I said, We've got a lot coming up on the
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Speaker 2: show tonight. I'm going to tell you about a secret
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Speaker 2: visit Peter Dutton made today in Sydney. But first let's
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Speaker 2: bring in former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman and former Queensland
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Speaker 2: Labor State Secretary Cameron Milner. Now, as I just said,
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Speaker 2: polls have shown a tightening, especially in the southeast, so
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Speaker 2: this debate really was important. Campbell, who did you give
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Speaker 2: it to and why?
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Speaker 3: Look, I thought it was even Stevens tonight, But as
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Speaker 3: I said, for the first debate, I think Miles has
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Speaker 3: a more comfortable, Alburt, this is a funny, funny thing
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Speaker 3: to say awkward persona, but it is the sort of
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Speaker 3: the daggy dad stuff. David is far more intense, and
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Speaker 3: it's a bit like the famous nineteen sixty debate in
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Speaker 3: the US presidential elections between Nixon and Kennedy. If you
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Speaker 3: just had the audio, I think David is quite compelling,
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Speaker 3: But when you see it on the screen, I think
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Speaker 3: Miles looks more approachable, and I think Australians like approachable leaders.
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Speaker 3: So I think the other thing that happened tonight is
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Speaker 3: I think David Christoph fully skated very close to the
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Speaker 3: edge on the abortion issue earlier in the debate, and
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Speaker 3: then finally he gave later on in answer to Miles
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Speaker 3: direct question, he went, yes, he does support a woman's
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Speaker 3: right to choose. If you said that a week ago
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Speaker 3: or two weeks ago, perhaps they wouldn't have been hurt
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Speaker 3: so much.
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Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty two times David Christophooley has failed
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Speaker 2: to answer the question about whether he does support women's
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Speaker 2: right to choose. This was a big issue not only
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Speaker 2: in the debate, but it has been in the Queensland
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Speaker 2: state election campaign. Let's have a look at one of
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Speaker 2: the most heated moments on this very issue.
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Speaker 4: Will be no changes to abortion law, and I want
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Speaker 4: Queenslanders to hear that directly from me.
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Speaker 5: Can anyone tell from David's answer just then what he
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Speaker 5: thinks about this issue?
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is this is a really important issue.
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Speaker 4: I think it shouldn't change.
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows I think it shouldn't.
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Speaker 4: Change the law.
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Speaker 1: What will remain the same.
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Speaker 7: Where you have a conscience spoke, the laws.
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Speaker 4: Will remain this view there will do.
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Speaker 1: You need no change.
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Speaker 4: So the scare campaign will continue, but you need to
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Speaker 4: let me direct.
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Speaker 1: Let me answer, well, let me answer the question.
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Speaker 4: The scare campaign will continue, but it's not happening.
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Speaker 6: Give a straight answer.
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Speaker 4: Okay, there will be no change, none at all.
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Speaker 1: Pro to us a lot.
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Speaker 4: There will be no change. The legislation is there and
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Speaker 4: women will have access to that legislation that gives women
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Speaker 4: the right to choose.
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Speaker 2: Cameron Milner, you know this has become such a big issue, clearly,
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Speaker 2: you know Stephen Miles care bringing it up in the debate.
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Speaker 2: David Crucifoli unequivocal that there'd be no change to the law,
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Speaker 2: but he had been reluctant to give his own personal viewpoint.
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Speaker 2: Has this been a scare campaign in your opinion?
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Speaker 6: Look, I think it's a campaign to a small group
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Speaker 6: of people who are motivated by this particular issue. Cost
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Speaker 6: of living overwhelmingly is the issue for Queens. Things A
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Speaker 6: going to vote on youth crime, housing supply. So David
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Speaker 6: Chrystophil has been campaigning on the big issues and Labour's
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Speaker 6: gone for a which a US style smear campaign and
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Speaker 6: fear campaign. I don't doubt it's an important issue, but
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Speaker 6: I don't think it has a place in queens and
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Speaker 6: politics and I don't think that are going after a
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Speaker 6: binary situation on what is a very complex issue is
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Speaker 6: up for a state campaign. Look, I think the result
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Speaker 6: will tell itself on Saturday Night, and I think the
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Speaker 6: L ANDP are in for government. I think the change
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Speaker 6: of government's coming. Despite the fact that Miles that you've
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Speaker 6: performed really well, really well in this campaign.
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Speaker 2: I actually have to say that I disagree with you Campbell.
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Speaker 2: On Stephen Miles's presentation. I thought, no, not you Cameron,
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Speaker 2: you Cambell Newman. I've seen his presentation in that debate
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Speaker 2: was amateur. He didn't look like a premier. I think
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Speaker 2: when he kept saying he loves the job. Well, no
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Speaker 2: one cares if you love the job. People Queenslanders care
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Speaker 2: what he's going to do for them. Youth crime, as
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Speaker 2: you just said, Cameron, has been such a major issue.
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Speaker 2: David chris A fully zeroed in on that in his
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Speaker 2: own question to Stephen Miles. He pointed out that there
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Speaker 2: have been cases where people have been injured or killed because.
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Speaker 1: They were out on bail. This is something that is
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Speaker 1: just unforgivable.
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Speaker 3: Cambell Newman, Look, well, look that's the point I actually
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Speaker 3: am making. And it's like this, if you just had
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Speaker 3: the audio, I think David Christopher fully delivered some really
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Speaker 3: killer keller blows, apart from not being able to give
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Speaker 3: a quick succeed answer earlier debate on the abortion thing.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, the problem with it, it's not
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Speaker 3: the issue itself, it's just when people are sitting there
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Speaker 3: at home seeing that sort of exchange and perhaps that
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Speaker 3: will be sharn on the nightly news tomorrow night. It's
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Speaker 3: again playing into this thing about sitting on the fence
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Speaker 3: and just give a straight answer, and that will motivate
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Speaker 3: a bloke who's undersided as much as a woman who
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Speaker 3: cares about the issue. But anyway, the audio has Christoph
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Speaker 3: fully delivering killer blows. But I actually here's why I
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Speaker 3: do disagree with you. I think Stephen Miles comes across
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Speaker 3: as the daggy dad. He's someone you can relate to.
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Speaker 3: He's awkward, but that's what he's been doing on TikTok
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Speaker 3: and other social media channels for months now, and it's
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Speaker 3: like this, Shari, it's working. You know, he has improved
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Speaker 3: his position through this campaign, and I don't want him
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Speaker 3: to improve his position, but it's happening. And I think
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Speaker 3: this could be a lot closer than anybody has thought.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will be a surprise if the
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Speaker 2: results are close, because we have been expecting a landslide
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Speaker 2: result for the L ANDP for so long. I just
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Speaker 2: found the grinning really frustrating, Like why are you grinning
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Speaker 2: so much?
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Speaker 1: At the premiere?
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Speaker 2: And now Paul Murray is going to have a lot
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Speaker 2: more on this topic at nine o'clock tonight. He's also
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Speaker 2: going to have the results of the People's Forum. Who
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Speaker 2: was the winner according to those in the room. But
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Speaker 2: before we go, Caaron Milner, you wrote a sensational piece.
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Speaker 2: Another sensational piece in the Nightly where you talk about
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Speaker 2: Labor's signature future made in Australia policy. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is twenty two billion dollars in taxpayer funding, yet you
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Speaker 2: say it should be known as future made for Mates
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Speaker 2: because the taxpayer funds, you say, are only being given
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Speaker 2: to a select few, some of whom have been shown
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Speaker 2: by Paul Fletcher to have connections to Labor figures.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us a bit more about.
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Speaker 6: This, Well, it's not future Made for Australia, it's future
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Speaker 6: made for mates, as I said. And the first billion
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Speaker 6: dollars went to Sundrive, which is backed by a venture
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Speaker 6: capital company called Blackbird Ventures. And the next billion dollars
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Speaker 6: we're decide Quantum, who no one ever heard of, who'd
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Speaker 6: been doing a whole series of secret deals behind the
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Speaker 6: scenes to shape up their deal with the government, backed
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Speaker 6: again by Blackbird Ventures. There's lots of questions here because
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Speaker 6: Blackbird Ventures key partner has been a mate and a
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Speaker 6: friend and a colleague of the very minister handing out
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Speaker 6: these deals, ed Husick. Ever since twenty fifteen, Nicki Slavic
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Speaker 6: has been with Eddie Husick. Now I think there's lots
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Speaker 6: of questions to answer and I wouldn't be surprised, wouldn't
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Speaker 6: be surprised if this all gets referred to the National
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Speaker 6: Anti Corruption Commission. That's what I expect.
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Speaker 2: That absolutely needs to be an inquiry into this. I've
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Speaker 2: had Paul Fletcher on the show to talk about this.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to get him on the show again because
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Speaker 2: it is a major issue at Cameron Milner, Campbell Newman,
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Speaker 2: thank you both so much for your thoughts.
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Speaker 1: On that leadership debate.
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Speaker 2: Now let's turn to calls for Lydia Thorpe to resign
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Speaker 2: after humiliating Australia on the global stage. And this is
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Speaker 2: all on the Prime Minister Anthony Alberezi. Shouldn't have invited
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Speaker 2: her to attend the prestigious event yesterday where distinguished guests
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Speaker 2: were given.
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Speaker 1: The opportunity to meet the King and Queen.
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Speaker 2: It was utterly predictable that she was going to try
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Speaker 2: and ruin it. Lydia Thorpe is a volatile woman who
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Speaker 2: caused havoc at the Mardi Gras, outside a strip club,
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Speaker 2: in the Senate repeatedly, and on the lawns of Parliament House.
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Speaker 2: It would have been a surprise had she not tried
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Speaker 2: to make the Royal visit all about herself. As political
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Speaker 2: writer Jeff Chambers said today, Lydia Thorpe is a one
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Speaker 2: trick pony who craves shameless publicity over substance while pocketing
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Speaker 2: a taxpayer funded salary of almost two hundred and sixty
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars working in an institution she claims.
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Speaker 1: To rage against.
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Speaker 2: Now she's given embarrassing television performances in the UK and
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Speaker 2: there are now also calls for her to resign, and
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Speaker 2: Peter Darfin said today that he thinks there's a case
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Speaker 2: for this should she resign.
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Speaker 7: I think there's a very strong argument for somebody who
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Speaker 7: doesn't believe in the system, but it's willing to take
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Speaker 7: quarter of a million dollars a year from the system
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Speaker 7: to resign in principle. And if you were really truly
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Speaker 7: about your cause and not just about yourself, then I
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Speaker 7: think that's a decision that you would make, all right.
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Speaker 2: Former Speaker of the House Bronwyn Bishop and senior fellow
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Speaker 2: at the Menzies Research Center Nick Kata joined me, Now, Ronwin,
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Speaker 2: do you agree with me that this is all on
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. He shouldn't have extended an invite to
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Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe when it was obvious this was going to happen.
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Speaker 8: Yes, she's a perennial exhibitionist, and I think we've seen
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Speaker 8: it in so many areas that she just wants to
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Speaker 8: cause a fastened draw attention to herself. I don't even
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Speaker 8: think that she's particularly got a cause. I think she
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Speaker 8: just likes the attention that comes to her. But the
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Speaker 8: thing that really makes me angry is that when she
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Speaker 8: took the oath of allegiance, she only did it so
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Speaker 8: she could be sworn in and get paid. There's nowhere
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Speaker 8: in the world she's going to resign because you know,
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Speaker 8: if she's going to pocket another what seven hundred and
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Speaker 8: fifty thousand dollars, why would she resign. But the point
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Speaker 8: is that I think far too much attention is paid
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Speaker 8: to her. Yes, it would have been a good idea
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Speaker 8: not to invite her, but it's a bit hard not
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Speaker 8: to invite a member of Parliament who's entitled to walk
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Speaker 8: the floors of the Parliament and all areas of it.
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Speaker 8: But it is to be expected that that's the case.
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Speaker 8: But she is really and truly a problem in the
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Speaker 8: set itself. If you watch the Senate you'll see that
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Speaker 8: it's almost impossible to deal with her because to get
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Speaker 8: the numbers to throw her out you have to get
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Speaker 8: the Greens to vote against her and all sorts of people,
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Speaker 8: so it doesn't happen. But I do think we have
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Speaker 8: to remember she was a dei pick by the Greens
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Speaker 8: and they're responsible for her being there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately for all of us.
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Speaker 2: Right now, Nick Kate, I want to ask you about
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Speaker 2: some comments that Matt Kean.
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Speaker 1: He used to be the new South Wales Treasurer.
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Speaker 2: He's now the Climate Change Authority Chair, handpicked by Anthony
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Speaker 2: albit Easy. He has slammed Peter Dutton's plan for nuclear energy.
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Speaker 2: He says it's a wild fantasy. Nick, Countries all around
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Speaker 2: the world now have nuclear as part of that energy mix.
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Speaker 1: So do you think these claims are starting to sound
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Speaker 1: quite alarmist.
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Speaker 9: Well, they're entirely motivated by self interest. I mean, I
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Speaker 9: don't know what Matt King's shareholdings are, what he owes
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Speaker 9: the renewable industry lobby or whatever, but the fact is
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Speaker 9: that the one organization or the one group of people
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Speaker 9: who really really want to keep nuclear out of this
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Speaker 9: country are not households who are desperate for secure electricity
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Speaker 9: supplies and cheap electricity supplies. It's the renewable industry. It's
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Speaker 9: these people who they know their investments will have overnight
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Speaker 9: the moment we introduce nuclear power of this country and
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Speaker 9: continue to fall. They're the ones out a pure economic
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Speaker 9: self interest. And I'm talking about people like Simon Holmes
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Speaker 9: of Court, who backs the teals he isn't interested in
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Speaker 9: renewable energy. It's that they don't want competition. They want
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Speaker 9: to protective market for this hopeless, useless, part time form
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Speaker 9: of electricity which is driving us all broke.
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Speaker 2: I want to turn to Blackland because we learned today
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Speaker 2: that there's another independent Muslim candidate running, this time against
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Speaker 2: Jason Clare in the election of Blackland. Now, the candidate
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Speaker 2: who's running against him was that offensive opera house rally
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Speaker 2: a year ago. He says Israel has committed genocide. He
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Speaker 2: wouldn't answer the question when journalists asked him if he
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Speaker 2: viewed the October seven massacre as a day of celebration.
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Speaker 2: His name is Ahmed uf. He's supported by the Muslim
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Speaker 2: Vote Group. He says he can win the next election
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Speaker 2: Ron when look, Jason Clair, this is a safe seat
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Speaker 2: he holds or he won Blacksland at the last election
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Speaker 2: with sixty five percent of the vote, So I don't
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Speaker 2: think this candidate has a chance of winning.
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Speaker 1: But his views are so deeply offensive.
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Speaker 8: I agree with you, and I agree particularly as Jason
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Speaker 8: Cleaar had a primary vote of fifty four percent, so
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Speaker 8: he's not going to be really in any danger of
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Speaker 8: losing that seat. But the important point is that there
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Speaker 8: is no leadership from Albernizi at all as to the
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Speaker 8: acceptable way in which it has been allowed to praise
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Speaker 8: what has been done by Hamas. There is no strength
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Speaker 8: in the leadership that says antisemitism must stop. There's been
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Speaker 8: no indication to the police that they must arrest people
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Speaker 8: when they are behaving in that way as encouraging violence.
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Speaker 8: There has got to be a definitive leadership and it's
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Speaker 8: only coming from Peter Dutton. It's strong from Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 8: and there just doesn't exist from the Albanizi or Miles.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about that. Nikita.
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Speaker 2: Do you think the rise of these Muslim candidates pose
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Speaker 2: a threat to labor in the same way that the
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Speaker 2: TiAl movement really decimated the liberal vote.
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Speaker 9: I think we won't know until election night, Shari, because
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Speaker 9: this is so hard to measure, as we found with
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Speaker 9: the tills, it's actually so hard to poll measure. But
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Speaker 9: I think it's certainly to my mind it posed the
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Speaker 9: threat to our democracy. I just hate the idea that
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Speaker 9: somebody is standing for a party which has a religious basis.
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Speaker 9: You know, that's not what we do in this country.
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Speaker 9: Religion should be divorced from politics. It's separate. You're standing
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Speaker 9: as a Muslim candidate or as you know, as the
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Speaker 9: ethnic candidate. No, you stand as an Australian citizen who
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Speaker 9: has committed this country and wants to make it a
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Speaker 9: better place.
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Speaker 4: If you're just.
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Speaker 9: If you're just there for one sectional group, then stay out.
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Speaker 9: So I would rather see Labor win this seat than
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Speaker 9: an outright Muslim party. I don't know whether this one is,
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Speaker 9: but now right Muslim focused party winning I would rather
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Speaker 9: see Labor back in to be.
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Speaker 2: Honest, Yeah, I don't think it's even about the religion.
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Speaker 2: I just think it's about the offensiveness of the views.
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Speaker 2: And if you're not commenting on whether October seven.
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Speaker 1: Was a terror attack, you know it's just gone too far. Bron.
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Speaker 2: When I want to ask you about the Royal visit.
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Speaker 2: We've obviously seen the King and Queen here this week
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Speaker 2: are out on the water on beautiful Sydney Harbor this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: What do you take away from this trip?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think it chose that the King was determined
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Speaker 8: to come to Australia, despite his health problems and despite
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Speaker 8: cutting it down to basically Sydney and Canberra, that he
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Speaker 8: was determined to go to Chogham. But I think his
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Speaker 8: affection for Australia is quite genuine, and I think the
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Speaker 8: Queen really conducted herself quite beautifully through the visit, and
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Speaker 8: I think most people were quite chuffed. I was very
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Speaker 8: taken actually with an interview with a young boy in
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Speaker 8: Canberra who'd been waiting for several hours. He chosen and
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Speaker 8: I'm talking about an eighteen year old, and he chosen
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Speaker 8: a bouquet of blue flowers because the Queen liked blue
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Speaker 8: and he was just going to wait there and see
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Speaker 8: if you could give him to her. And it was
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Speaker 8: just a sheer joy of a young man who wanted
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Speaker 8: to see them and meet them, and I think that
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Speaker 8: was reflected and all this talk about the Republican movement,
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Speaker 8: one third are interested in the republic and they can't
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Speaker 8: agree what sort of republic they want, so I just
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Speaker 8: don't think it's a relevant question.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Republican movement, it's off the table. The Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister has said as much. I mean, we forget that. Actually,
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Speaker 2: when he won office he had an assistant Minister for
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Speaker 2: the Republic, Matt this Lthwaite. That's how much on the
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Speaker 2: agenda having a Republican, a referendum on a republic, on
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Speaker 2: monarchy was Nick Keta. Now after the failed Voice referendum,
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Speaker 2: they don't want to know about it.
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Speaker 9: No, you wouldn't have recognized him, would you, from the
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Speaker 9: Albanese who came to power and promising a referendum on
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Speaker 9: the republic in his second term. I was incredibly moved
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Speaker 9: by the visit, to be honest. I stood out there
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Speaker 9: with some crowds in North Sydney and I just thought
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Speaker 9: the sort of people who came out to wave their
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Speaker 9: flags were just so pleased to see the king, And
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Speaker 9: you know what, I think it is showy. I think
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Speaker 9: almost all of us, you know, we've only had the
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Speaker 9: Queen Elizabeth for our entire lifetimes and we were nervous
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Speaker 9: about the transition of power, but.
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Speaker 4: Very smoothly.
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Speaker 9: It's in very good hands with King Charles long may
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Speaker 9: he live, long, may he reign. And it was just
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Speaker 9: incredibly happening to see him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and indeed and impressive that he made the visit.
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Speaker 2: He made the trip out here. He is suffering from cancer.
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Speaker 2: Seventeen commitments yesterday, quite an intense trip for him. Nick
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Speaker 2: cat and Roman Bishops. So wonderful to see you both,
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Speaker 2: and plenty more to come after the break. I've got
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Speaker 2: news of a secret visit that Peter Dutton made while
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Speaker 2: he was here in Sydney.
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Speaker 1: Today. Boy, I tell you what he is showing.
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Speaker 2: Up alban Easy plus Julian Lisa will join me to
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Speaker 2: speak about the anti Semitism that we're seeing across our country.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 2: For over a year now, we've been reporting on the
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Speaker 2: disgraceful lack of leadership from state and federal governments and
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Speaker 2: law enforcement on anti Semitism. But today Peter Dutton went
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Speaker 2: above and beyond. Firstly, he committed eight and a half
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Speaker 2: million dollars to the Sydney Holocaust Museum. But he then
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Speaker 2: paid a personal visit without any media present, to Avner's
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Speaker 2: Bakery in Surrey Hills as you know, this was the
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Speaker 2: bakery vandalized by hamas symbols all because its owner is Jewish.
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Speaker 2: We can bring you those photographs now of Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: at Avner's.
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Speaker 1: Here he is.
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Speaker 2: He was accompanied by Roe Knox, the Liberal candidate for Wentworth,
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Speaker 2: James Patterson and Julian Lisa, my next guest. But what
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Speaker 2: was even more meaningful was the way that Dutton spoke
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Speaker 2: about the distressing racism we're all witnessing in our country.
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Speaker 1: Have a look, I've.
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Speaker 7: Said before, and I really feel this profoundly. I look
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Speaker 7: much older, but I'm fifty four this year, and in
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Speaker 7: my lifetime. This is the most terrific period that I
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Speaker 7: can recall in Australia. It's the most shocking and jolting period,
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Speaker 7: and it's so so undeserved, and we need to make
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Speaker 7: sure that it provides us with the resolve to make
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Speaker 7: sure that better days are ahead, that children can feel safe,
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Speaker 7: that armed guards are no longer required places of worship
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Speaker 7: at synagogues, or at supermarkets, or at schools or preschools.
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Speaker 2: That is not our country, and Liberlain p Julian and
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Speaker 2: Lisa joins me. Now, Julian, you are with Peter Dutton today,
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Speaker 2: he just said, this is not our country.
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Speaker 1: You'd agree with that, wouldn't you.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more Sharia and Peter Dutton has been
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Speaker 5: so strong and so clear in backing the right of
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Speaker 5: ordinary Australians to go about their business. And that's why
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Speaker 5: the commitment today for eight and a half million dollars
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Speaker 5: towards the fundly the refurbishment of the Jewish Museum and
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Speaker 5: the extension of that museum is so important. That museum
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Speaker 5: is going to tell an important story about the Jewish community,
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Speaker 5: that Jews have been here since the first fleet, and
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Speaker 5: that in every imaginable era, in every imaginable area, they flourished,
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Speaker 5: and they flourished because Australia is the world becoming country
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Speaker 5: that we know that doesn't judge people on the basis
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Speaker 5: of their religious background, that lets people get on with it.
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Speaker 5: But what we've seen since the seventh of October last
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Speaker 5: year is weakness in leadership from too many people in authority,
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Speaker 5: and Peter Dutton has been a man of great moral
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Speaker 5: clarity in calling that out repeatedly, and his commitment today
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Speaker 5: to the Jewish Museum is just another instance of his
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Speaker 5: clarity in standing with Jewish Australians.
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Speaker 2: Julian, I understand that you had an interesting conversation with
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Speaker 2: the owner at Avner's Bakery in Surrey Hills today. He
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Speaker 2: was feeling optimistic despite the fact that he'd been targeted
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Speaker 2: because he's Jewish. But you pointed out to him as
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Speaker 2: I'm told that we shouldn't be facing these attacks at all.
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Speaker 1: We haven't had proper leadership.
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Speaker 5: Ed is a really remarkable person. He's a person who
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Speaker 5: has stood up despite the fact that his business was vandalized,
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Speaker 5: not because baker, He's a person who's demonstrated the importance
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Speaker 5: of standing your ground and standing strong. And I don't
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Speaker 5: think that any Australian should have to put up with
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Speaker 5: what he and his bakeries have to put up with.
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Speaker 5: And I wish Ed well. I hope more people do
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Speaker 5: what to Peter James Ronox than I did today, which
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Speaker 5: is go and patronize his bakery, because it's a great
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Speaker 5: way of demonstrating to the Jewish community and to Laura
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Speaker 5: abiding Australians that the broader community is with.
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Speaker 2: Them one hundred percent. I encourage everyone to go. Funnily enough,
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Speaker 2: I was on the way there this morning when my
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Speaker 2: two year old started falling asleep in the back seat
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Speaker 2: and I had to call the trip off. But I
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Speaker 2: might have bumped into you that now, Julian. Just finally,
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Speaker 2: we saw protesters on Sunday celebrating Sinwa the hamas leader.
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Speaker 1: They called him a legend.
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Speaker 2: Do you agree with your colleague James Patterson that we
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Speaker 2: have a crisis not just of political leadership but law enforcement.
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Speaker 5: James Patterson's completely right on this. What we saw with
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Speaker 5: the protests at the weekend is exactly the same sort
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Speaker 5: of conduct we saw with the protests in favor of
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Speaker 5: Hesbalah a few weeks ago. If you list an organization
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Speaker 5: as a terrorist organization, that's got to mean something. And
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Speaker 5: when you have people displaying symbols evidencing support for those
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Speaker 5: people who are engaged in terrorist organizations and they're not
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Speaker 5: being bought board in by law enforcement, one has to
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Speaker 5: ask what's happening in this country? We need our law
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Speaker 5: enforcement officials to enforce the law otherwise, as we've seen
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Speaker 5: every day since the ninth of October Opera House protests
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Speaker 5: last year, that more and more people keep pushing and
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Speaker 5: pushing and pushing and doing worse and worse acts. It's
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Speaker 5: time that law enforcement officials at the state and federal
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Speaker 5: level stepped up to the plate and protected other law
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Speaker 5: abiding Australians.
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Speaker 2: Well, said Julian Lisa, And as always they just have
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Speaker 2: to commend you for all the work you're doing on
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Speaker 2: this issue.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Now that's it, that's it for me.
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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock a full hour
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. And right now, here's Paul Murray.