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Mark interviews Fox News contributor Liz Peek. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: More mark mark simone mr new york now three hours
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  Speaker 1: every weekday from nine till noon on 710 wor well
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  Speaker 1: liz peak the brilliant columnist you can read her columns
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  Speaker 1: at the hill.com foxnews.com but you also go to everything
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  Speaker 1: at lizpeak.com her own website go to lizpeak.com liz peak
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  Speaker 1: how you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing I am well, although why I'm in New York
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  Speaker 2: City during UN week, I have no idea, Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's fun. It's fun. What do they actually do
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  Speaker 1: at the UN? Have they ever actually accomplished anything in
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  Speaker 1: that organization anywhere?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting. I have a piece up
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  Speaker 2: on the Fox News homepage today about just that, which
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  Speaker 2: is kind of reflections on what Mike Walsh and Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump are trying to do at the UN, which And
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  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the initiatives by the Trump
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  Speaker 2: White House that has really gotten very little play, but
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  Speaker 2: actually is very significant. You know, most people in America
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  Speaker 2: do not have a very high regard for the UN's
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  Speaker 2: ability to promote peace, which is, after all, their core mission.
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  Speaker 2: But in addition, I think there's widespread feeling that the
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  Speaker 2: organization has lost its way. Typical globalist organization that has
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  Speaker 2: mission creep. It's spending much more time on climate change
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  Speaker 2: and gender inequality than it is on actually conflict resolution.
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  Speaker 2: But it is, again, that the Trump White House is
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  Speaker 2: sort of tackling this. And Mike Walz, our ambassador to
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  Speaker 2: the U.N., is a very straight shooter. has kind of
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  Speaker 2: browbeaten the organization, which, by the way, has a cash
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  Speaker 2: flow deficit. I mean, the finances of the United Nations
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  Speaker 2: are awful. And Walsh is making them cut costs, get
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  Speaker 2: rid of lots of agencies. The United States is withdrawing
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  Speaker 2: its contribution funds. to lots of agencies. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you hear that the budget of the UN is $ 4 billion.
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  Speaker 2: The UN spends about $ 70 billion every year. What? It's
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  Speaker 2: just out of control. Well, its peacekeeping operations are extremely expensive.
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  Speaker 2: That $ 4 billion is, is basically keeping the lights on,
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  Speaker 2: as we saw last year. They don't even do that
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  Speaker 2: very effectively. If you remember last year when President Trump
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  Speaker 2: went to the United Nations to speak, the escalator broke down,
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  Speaker 2: the teleprompter didn't work. He was really riled about all
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  Speaker 2: of that, thinking it was sort of sabotage for all,
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  Speaker 2: and I know it probably was. But it's a mess.
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  Speaker 2: It's a mess of an organization. And yet, Mike Walsh,
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  Speaker 2: our ambassador... You know, he does not want to throw
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  Speaker 2: the baby out with the bathwater. He argues, and I
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  Speaker 2: think rightly, that it's the only place in the world
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  Speaker 2: where 168 nations can come together and hear each other speak, etc. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's probably some value in that. But man,
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  Speaker 2: does it need reining in?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. President Trump's basically telling them off
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  Speaker 1: today in his speech. Does it mean anything? Do they
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  Speaker 1: really listen?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was just watching a bit of it.
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  Speaker 2: He was calling out Iran and asking the nations of
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  Speaker 2: the world to unite against a nuclear Iran. You know,
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  Speaker 2: will it make any difference? I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 2: much more than the public speeches, much more important are
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  Speaker 2: the side meetings that go on. Trump is going to
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  Speaker 2: meet with Delphi Rodriguez, the acting head of Venezuela. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's an important one-to-one. He's going to meet with
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  Speaker 2: the head of the UK. That's probably a pretty important
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  Speaker 2: relationship to get off the ground. Frankly, I think the
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  Speaker 2: world's kind of looking at this whole Ukraine-Russia war and
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  Speaker 2: hoping that there might be progress there. Why might that happen? Well,
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  Speaker 2: number one, the United States is going to browbeat both
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  Speaker 2: countries to to declare a peace amongst their energy facilities.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, last week, Ukraine attacked a Moscow refinery
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  Speaker 2: and really did some damage, which is one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons that diesel prices continue to go up. Russia is
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  Speaker 2: a major producer of diesel. But to me, Mark, what
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  Speaker 2: has gotten much less played than it should is the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Ukraine itself manufactured a 40-foot-long missile that can
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  Speaker 2: go 2,000 miles longer than our Patriot missiles, had enormous impact.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, they're making them faster and cheaper,
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  Speaker 2: of course, than our arms industry. So I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was a pretty darn significant event. And I have to say,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of shocked that people weren't more focused on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a pretty impressive feat for Zelensky in Ukraine. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: this whole AI trying to scare everybody to death, make
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  Speaker 1: it the new climate change, is this going to work
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  Speaker 1: for Democrats?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the industry, thank the Lord, has finally
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  Speaker 2: begun a counter-messaging effort. There are two issues, right? One
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  Speaker 2: is the data center thing, which is really a local
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  Speaker 2: politics issue. This should not be national consideration. If you're
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  Speaker 2: in a community where they don't want data centers, fine.
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  Speaker 2: Go to your local politicians, explain that you hate data centers,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want the noise or whatever it is about
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  Speaker 2: them that you don't like. The reality is, though, that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people are concerned about electricity prices going
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  Speaker 2: up in areas where you have data centers. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: fix that. Just make the people running the data centers
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  Speaker 2: pay for any incremental electricity load that they incur. That
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  Speaker 2: seems to me to be a pretty straightforward, simple resolution.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing is simple in our politicized world, but that should
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  Speaker 2: be something that local administrators can figure out. On the
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  Speaker 2: water side, you know, there's lots of stories out there,
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  Speaker 2: not coincidentally today, about how golf courses use more water
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  Speaker 2: and this group needs more water. The truth is, I
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  Speaker 2: was on air earlier today with the head of a
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  Speaker 2: company that provides infrastructure for data centers, and he said 75%
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  Speaker 2: of their data centers are closed loop, meaning they don't
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  Speaker 2: take any water out of anybody else's reservoir, they have
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  Speaker 2: a certain amount of water that they're using and it's recycled.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that people are dispelling the concerns about
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  Speaker 2: data centers. And by the way, Mark, pointing out, every
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  Speaker 2: time you get in your car and you go on
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  Speaker 2: Gmaps to figure out Google Maps where you're going, you're
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  Speaker 2: using a data center. I mean, we're all using data centers.
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  Speaker 2: They're They've been around for a while. They're certainly getting
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  Speaker 2: bigger and more complicated because of AI, but we need
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  Speaker 2: to have that computing power behind our society now. So
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  Speaker 2: just sort of having a, you know, declaring war on
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  Speaker 2: them is just plain stupid. The other side is the
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  Speaker 2: security risk of what you might call self-improving AI, meaning
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  Speaker 2: that the agents begin to create the next generation of
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  Speaker 2: agents more or less independent of human input, and that
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  Speaker 2: those agents, therefore, are even more independent of human input.
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  Speaker 2: And we have seen some security breaches from all the
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  Speaker 2: major companies now. So I don't dismiss this as total folly.
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  Speaker 2: I think there are self-interests on the part of NVIDIA,
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  Speaker 2: which is saying, oh, there's no risk at all. They
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  Speaker 2: want the business to continue full speed ahead. They're benefiting. uh,
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  Speaker 2: and tropic may, may have a competitive motive for doing this,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what, when Elon Musk and at
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  Speaker 2: Philip Hawking's, I don't know if you remember who he
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  Speaker 2: was probably one of the most brilliant people on the
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  Speaker 2: face of the planet, the fellow who broke the codes
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  Speaker 2: in world war two, when people like that are saying,
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  Speaker 2: this is a risky undertaking. I think you have to
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  Speaker 2: listen and you can't just politically. I think it's extremely
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  Speaker 2: unwise for politicians, President Trump to dismiss safety concerns out
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  Speaker 2: of hand. People are worried. He has to address that
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  Speaker 2: worry and say at the same time, the benefits clearly
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  Speaker 2: outweigh the risk. And that's the message that the industry
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  Speaker 2: has been so very bad at getting out there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he has created, he's creating an AI force to
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  Speaker 1: watch things. He's got an AI.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, which is great, which is exactly what he should do.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I mean, honestly, some of the arguments
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  Speaker 2: on both sides of the political spectrum here have been
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  Speaker 2: so dumb, it seems to me. No one in the
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  Speaker 2: industry is calling for, quote unquote, federal regulation. That would require,
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  Speaker 2: oh my God, Congress to get involved. Last thing we
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  Speaker 2: want is Congress anywhere near AI. They don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: They're never going to understand it. And look at the
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  Speaker 2: Clarity Act, if you want an example of how completely
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  Speaker 2: incapable Congress is at moving forward legislation that's even slightly complicated.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get it done. So- You know, if you
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  Speaker 2: really want to just trip up AI forever, put Congress
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  Speaker 2: in charge of figuring out the safety guards here and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we will be doomed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then you got Kathy Hochul and Gavin
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  Speaker 1: Newsom talking about their kill switch. There's no such thing
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  Speaker 1: as a kill switch that would actually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I mean, they don't know either. Truthfully,
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  Speaker 2: you and I don't know and they don't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, great. As always, Liz Peek and everybody read her columns.
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  Speaker 1: You got a new one up on Fox News dot
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  Speaker 1: com today.
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  Speaker 2: I do. It's about the UN and about the reform
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  Speaker 2: efforts about, you know, I think what they're doing. There
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  Speaker 2: are two things I think that are really underreported. I
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  Speaker 2: know you have to run. One is I think what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing at the UN is actually significant. The other
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  Speaker 2: thing is the procurement process at the Pentagon. Everyone has.
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  Speaker 2: hates B-6F. I understand that on the left. But I
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  Speaker 2: think there are some things that are just awful about
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  Speaker 2: the way we manufacture munitions, and it can be improved upon,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they're doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, go read her column. It's at the Fox
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  Speaker 1: News website, and you can also read her at thehill.com.
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  Speaker 1: And Check out her website, LizPeak.com. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great stories up there. LizPeak.com. Liz Peak, thanks for being
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Mark. Take care.
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  Speaker 1: Take care. Yeah, we'll get to the U.N., the whole schedule.
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  Speaker 1: The president's got quite a schedule today. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: the U.N. has a schedule here. This speech at 9.30,
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  Speaker 1: this speech at 10. They're like an hour off already.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is delayed forever and ever at that U.N. And
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  Speaker 1: that was interesting what she said about the waste of
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  Speaker 1: money there. We'll get to all of that. And more
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