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Travis Hines on the Cyclones, Mike Palm from Circa Sports & Trent's Picks · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2, Miller Condon, Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
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Right now, Travis Hines joins Trent and I talks to my with
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State. Oh, Travis Hines, how are you?
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I'm doing well. How are you 2?
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Doing OK, got the passport and everything ready to head over to
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Ireland, no? Apparently not.
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Are you there, Travis? Hello.
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We'll reconnect. We will.
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We'll try it another line. Travis, was it?
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Was it the question? I don't think so.
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It was probably yes or no and just, you know, kind of a, an
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ice breaker, if you will. And I'm going to start with
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basketball with Travis. There was a media availability
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earlier in the week and there's something about this T the way
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this TJ Otzelberger team has been constructed for the
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upcoming 2526 season. It certainly has piqued my
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curiosity. I'm excited to see Blake
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Buchanan, sight see Polita, some of the newbies that are coming
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aboard and see how they're going to fit in in the Big 12.
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And we have a pretty good idea that they'll be very sound
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defensively and we'll see if they can get some shooting.
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And the fact that Mylan Manchilovich is is opening eyes
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the way that he is and the confidence is there.
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And more importantly, the word that I heard from TJ when he was
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asked about Mylan was the consistency factor because
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that's maybe what's lacking with his game.
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I mean, if you can ever get that straightened out, look out below
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because this dude can fill it up.
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We certainly know he's got all the skills and we've seen that
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on display since he was a freshman.
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Just haven't seen any consistency when it comes to
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doing that. So whether he's able to do that
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or not, TJ says he's had a good summer, shooting the ball well,
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doing everything that he's been asked of.
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Again, with the parts that return and the parts that
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they've included. We saw Nate Heisey coming on in
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a big way last year. So I think basketball is going
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to be certainly fun to watch. It seems to me that our phone
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line system is Crash Trent. That would be my guess.
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Or Travis is having. Some Travis says he has no
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connection, no service right now.
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That's what he texted all. Right.
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Well, you and I'll talk. We'll get Travis another day.
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If that if that doesn't come to fruition, we can talk about the
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Iowa State and I started talking about what you were trying to
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line them up, just what this roster's going to look like in
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basketball this this coming season.
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I think that, I mean, we both maybe we're over the top.
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It takes a lot to be a Final Four team, but we certainly
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thought that there were times early in the Big 12 season that
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this team looked the part. I'm excited to see this group.
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I really am the Buchanan, the transfer 6/10, 6:00 to 11:00 to
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go in the middle there. Take Chatty's minutes if the
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Manchilovich is as consistent as TJS letting on, and that's one
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of the things we're going to work on as much as anything.
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If he's got another step, that's certainly a positive sign of my
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book. Well, and he has to, right, if,
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if this team is going to get to that kind of level, a consistent
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winner at the highest of levels and being, you know, a fringe
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top ten team throughout the course of the year, there has to
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be another step to his game. He's too talented offensively
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and yeah, on the defensive end. You want to see more
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improvements there and all those kind of things.
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I just wonder with him athletically, can he do it with
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the defenders he's going to see? Yeah, that would be that would
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be the question, right? I think so.
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I mean, we saw, we saw glimpses as a freshman.
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Yes, we saw glimpses certainly last year more than glimpses
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last year, but doing it consistently once the scouting
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report is out, once you have, here's the other part.
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If we see at the beginning of the year that he is taking those
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steps, well, game plans are going to change and defenses are
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going to change and what they're doing to him that fade away is
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beautiful. Back to the basket.
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He can score at that pull up game 3 point shooting.
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It's also a volume to thing too. And how often do we have to talk
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about this with particular players?
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They have to be more selfish and for this season that's something
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that not only you can always just click on it just make up
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right it's background. It's it's not something that you
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can just easily ignite in some people.
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There are certain basketball players that would prefer to
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make the right play, even when you should be a little bit more
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selfish and. I'd like to see that.
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And that shot with a hand, with a guy in your face but not right
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up on you, with 7 on the shot clock, that's better than making
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a pass and hoping something that happens on the other end of the
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floor. And for Manchilovich, that's, I
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think, another part of his game that certainly needs to
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increase. Absolutely.
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Lipsy comes back. He's the guy that for whatever
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reason, when we're talking about this upcoming season, he seems
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like maybe he's just a constant, right?
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Just we know he's going to be there and we know what he's
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going to bring and he's going to try and fight through anything
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that he's got because this will be it for him.
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So I won't ask you that difficult question to begin
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with, Travis. Travis Hines with this Des
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Moines Register. Travis, Trent and I were finding
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earlier in the week and we started to what we're trying to
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line you up. I'm excited to see TJ's team
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this year because A, we know the returners, yes, Jones and
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Gilbert, they're both gone, but we know the guys that are coming
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back. And I love the fact that TJ's
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pointing out about the consistency and they realize
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when it comes to Munchilovich, who looks all Big 12 one night
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and the next night he struggles mightily.
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If he is more consistent. We know what Lipsy is.
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I like Buchanan, the transfer coming in from Virginia.
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I'm not sure there's a significance step back from this
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year's team to last year's Travis.
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I know they haven't played a game yet, but it certainly got
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me interested in this squad. Yeah, without a doubt.
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I mean, we'll have to see how the pieces fit together.
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But when you look at what they've got on paper and
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certainly, you know, headlined by what's coming back, I think
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they certainly have a chance to be right at the top of the Big
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12 and relevant nationally again.
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And I think when you look at the way that TJ puts this roster
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together over the course of a number of years, I mean, to me
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it really does kind of feel like a Fred Hoiberg roster where you
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have those four year players with the support of transfers
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rather than vice versa. I mean, we all talked about so
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much about the the transfers with Fred, but it was really
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guys like George Nyang, Monte Morris, you know, Nas me too
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long, like you can go down the list like that was the
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foundation of the team and the transfers other than that second
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team were really built around it.
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And when you look at what TJ has this year with Mila and then the
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transfers around them, you know, obviously Joshua Jefferson
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coming back as well. Like, that really is what the
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roster construction really reminds me of.
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What made Fred's team so good over the course of those like
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four years after that first year.
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As we found out, it looks like Mason Williams of the likelihood
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of him playing this year is incredibly slim.
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If not putting it at 0, what about the other wing transfer
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and Dominic Nelson? And I bet they got a little bit
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later on in the portal window. And where's your expectation
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level for Nelson and what he's going to provide this year?
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You know, TJ kind of raised the bar for him a little bit because
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he's noted like the guys that they've gotten later, at least
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for them in the transfer portal era here have been really good.
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Isaiah Brockington, Jaron Holmes, like guys that they have
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waited on in the transfer portal have been instant impact type
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guys. And I don't know if that's going
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to be in the cards for him. But certainly I think that's the
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hope for Iowa State is that he's a guy that can come in and
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really make a difference, you know, right from the get go.
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He's got an interesting text. Looking forward to Cyhawk starts
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versus Lipsy. Our tweet rather.
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Yeah, that's got some juice to it, no doubt about it.
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Well, and then Pleeta, what can you what do you expect?
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What's what are expectations surrounding Pleeta, who is now
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in Ames and starting to work as Reign and open some eyes
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apparently so far in the limited time he's been there.
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Yeah, TJ mentioned him on Tuesday when he met with us
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about his ability to contribute right away.
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And I think when you have, you know, those international young
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guys, you don't want to get too over excited because there is a
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significant transition to college basketball.
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But I think, you know, early on here when the coach is
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mentioning you as being in the rotation and being a piece, I
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think there's reason for excitement.
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And I think it's important for Iowa State, you know, really
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like we talked about earlier, how they have the foundation,
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but figuring out the different ways as you can play.
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And I think if you're trying to make a March, deep March run,
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having the ability to be versatile, to play different
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ways to match up differently against teams from around the
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country is a huge piece of that. And I think play the allows Iowa
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State, if he is able to get on the floor consistently and be a
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consistent contributor to play, you know, in a number of
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different ways. You wrote about Mom Manchilovich
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at the Des Moines Register, was just reading through that during
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it. Ken and I were talking before
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you were able to get that connection back dialed up with
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us. Just one thing about him is
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being more selfish and that's something that is not easy to
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find. Just getting that gear where you
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know, that shot was 7 on the shot clock with the hand on my
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face is probably better than what we're going to get.
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Do you think he has that in him or is it just his personality?
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Maybe that'll be difficult to get out of him.
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Well, this is the third year that they've asked him to be
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more aggressive. So I do think it is it is a big
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ask and it's interesting because he is a he is a incredibly
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confident player. And when usually when you have
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that kind of confidence, like the green light just stays on.
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And that doesn't seem to always be the case for me.
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One like and tji think strategically would be my guest
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called him out a little bit on Tuesday saying that he has a
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tendency to be a percentage protector, which is not what a
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player wants to hear. And I think that's trying to
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coax him to take poor her shots, which, again, most people would
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be, you know, doing backflips to get that kind of green light.
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And, you know, I think the thing for meal and too is you just see
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the potential just dripping off his game.
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Like there's so much that he can do.
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He's already a great college basketball player.
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But if he can take those next couple steps that are so evident
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with, you know, a higher volume of shots, the ability to put the
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ball on the deck and create both for himself and for other
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teammates. Like you can see the All
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American path there. And I know that's a big bar and
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a big expectation that I'm putting on him, but I think he's
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got it in him. And I think there's I don't I
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don't think frustrations the right word, but I think there is
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an impatience to see him reach that next level because it's so
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obviously there in his game with his size and with his skill set.
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So like, to me, that might be the biggest question for Iowa
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State this year is, is Neon 2% better than he was last year or
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is he 10%? Because if he's 10% better,
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you're talking about an all American.
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If you're talking 2%, you're probably talking a second or
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third team, all Big 12 players. So the floor, it's pretty high,
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but I think the ceiling is significantly higher.
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Well, let's switch to football and guys, I think might be the
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most important piece on that offense this year is Ben Bramer
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to me. We saw glimpses as a freshman.
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He was really good as a freshman.
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Sadly, injuries have kept him off the field.
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Obviously, 167 catches now get their mail in Houston in the
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NFL. So they got to replace those
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with Townsend and Seoul and they might be good.
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A ton of expectations, a lot of hype.
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But we no, Bramer is good, at least I believe he is.
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I think he's an NFL player. I really do.
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And I think he's probably going to have a difficult decision, if
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I'm right, that his year goes the way it does, that once we
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get to the end of December that he's going to have a decision to
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make. Is Bramer maybe as important a
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piece to this offense as anybody?
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Well, I think he is the piece that can unlock a lot of
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different options in that offense because if you have to
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account for him in the passing game in a real way, like we saw
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with Charlie Kohler for years at Iowa State, I do think that
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makes life so much easier for Rocco Beck.
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You're not only because that's a consistent, you know, safety
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valve and guy to go to when the play needs help, but it's going
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to make life easier for those new wide receivers on the
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outside. It's going to make life easier
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for the running game. And I just, I do think that he
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is a guy that can change what that offense is capable of.
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And I do think like for him, it is just healthy.
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Like you've got to stay healthy. And I think it's not a question
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of consistency or talent OR anything like that.
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If he's on the field and near 100%, he's a game changer.
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And I think that is a huge weapon for Rocco, Beck, Taylor,
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Mauser and that Iowa State offense.
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Over on the defensive side of the football, a question about
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the other cornerback spot. You got a star in Jantez
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Williams, who's an absolute stud.
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They bring in Trey Bell from Lindenwood, not exactly the
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place that you're normally thinking to get a good football
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player from now. A lot of people wanted him out
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of the portal. Is that the expectation though,
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at that or other quarterback spot?
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This is going to be Trey Bells job and we'll go from there.
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I would think so, but I do think the other thing too, that we've
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seen from John Haycock over the years is that they're not afraid
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of competition and they're certainly not afraid of cycling
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guys through, certainly at that position.
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And, you know, we saw Darian Porter, you know, an NFL draft
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pick split time a lot of time that corner last year.
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So I do think, you know, they'd be perfectly happy if somebody
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just takes that job. But I don't think that they're
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going to shy away, you know, from platooning it a little bit
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because I think they like to do that.
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That keeps guys fresh and healthy.
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And as we saw last year, you know, when injuries strike,
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they, they tend to and that defense and can really wreak
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havoc. So I, I think that would be the
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preferred outcome, but I also think that they feel pretty good
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about the options that they've got beyond there too.
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I. Want to go back to the offense
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with you, Travis, in the running back position because I keep
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hearing about River Peppers. It's a hard name to forget.
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So once you hear it, it sticks with you a little bit, right?
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Jack's in the same way, but in particular Peppers.
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Is he the guy that's going to compete to take maybe some SAMA
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snaps? I love Carson Hanson, he'd
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rather run through you and that's, you know, injuries are
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are going to be a factor with him.
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But what about the two freshmen running backs and their
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potential on this upcoming season?
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Yeah, I think Campbell loves competition at the running back
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position because it brings the cream of the crop to the top,
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right. And I think we saw it, you know,
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go back to year one. I can't believe it's now a
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decade ago, but we thought Mike Warren was going to be, you
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know, the next great Campbell back and incomes David
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Montgomery. And then you go to Breece Hall.
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It wasn't supposed to be Breece Hall that was going to carry
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that mantle. It was going to be Jairal Brock
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and incomes Breece Hall. And I think again, when you're
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looking at Campbell's running backs, like all bets are off for
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the competition is always open. And I think that is going to be
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certainly the case this year. I think Carson Hansen certainly
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is the guy that is going to, you know, have the job to start
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with. And Abu Sama has certainly shown
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things over the last couple of years that he's going to get an
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opportunity as well. But I don't think anybody is,
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you know, written in ink at that position because they recruit it
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well and they give guys opportunities.
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Our final 15 seconds. Do you when Do you know when
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fall camp is going to start with the game on the 23rd?
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That's what like 5 weeks away I think.
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When? When will they get to camp?
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Has there been a date released publicly?
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July 23rd is the first day of camp, which is the next week.
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Summer for everybody. Yeah, it's incredible.
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Media Day is a week from today. Unbelievable.
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Oh, that's good news too. Thank you, Travis.
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Appreciate it. We'll talk to you down the road,
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my friend. Thank you, Travis.
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All right, welcome back, Miller and
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you until the top of the hour. Trent's plays of the day circus
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days either wrapped up or in the process of wrapping up.
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I saw the setup yesterday watching a little VC and saw a
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couple of the coaches interviewed.
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Mike joins us. Mike Trenton, Ken, who'd have
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thought, right? And I know this has come up a
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lot over the last couple of years as as much as the NCAA
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would. The boogeyman was Vegas and
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they're holding major events out there, media days and at actual
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hotels. It's it's come a long way, has
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it not? Yeah, I mean, last week was Big
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12 and then the Mountain West just wrapped up here at Circa
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and then you guys will be out here for for Big 10.
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So three in a row, the guy that's the chairman of the
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College Football Committee followed me on the desk on on
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Wednesday on the Mountain West Network and then had a long
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conversation with Derek at Legacy Club about the
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championship game, you know, in late January of what would be
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27, being in Las Vegas and planning that event.
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So it's it was come a long way. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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Good stuff. By the way, are you going to be
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Are you at work on Sunday? I probably am not going.
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To be at work on Sunday. But I'm not 100% sure yet.
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All right, well, I'll look for it because I get there earlier
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than everybody else at 1:15. So I guess I want to where I
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want to go is it's been a slow week.
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What was it like in the book after the All Star game on
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Tuesday night? I know you do wrote more right
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on the Home Run Derby than you do on the actual game Tuesday,
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but what was your take away on what we witnessed on Monday and
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then on Tuesday with the game ending the way that it did?
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Well, Monday, my take away is it's in my mind.
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I cannot accept the fact that Major League Baseball will tell
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you that they can determine that Cal Raleigh's longest home run
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in the first round was 2cm longer than Rookers.
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Yet set standing in Des Moines where you guys are, you can't
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watch the Cubs or White Sox or Twins or Brewers or Cardinals or
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Royals. That is not congruent in my
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mind. They can't figure that out.
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Tuesday is controversial because some books like us said this is
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a nine inning result that we graded everything of push.
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Other books created the National League winner and the American
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League of losers. So I know what's it a nice
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moment. I guess which forward did was
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great. I thought the game was a pretty
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decent game. I think this challenge system
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with balls and strikes, look, if you're going to give people X
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challenges, why would you take them away if they're right?
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You should get so many wrong until you're out.
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But the other thing is we're going to take away the art of
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framing pitches. I think we're going to take away
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the art of catching. And I think you reward catchers
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who are lazy and don't frame pitches if you're going to do
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this system. I mean, that's my arguments on
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both sides of it for me I guess. So during this break in the
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schedule, do you see people that are jumping in second-half bets,
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win division, win World Series, you know, those kind of things.
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I know you guys have a ton of those things out there at Circus
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Sports. Is is that where you see people
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that are maybe investing a little bit more?
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They're taking a break. They don't have their daily
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handicap that they have to do, so they get involved in the
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futures market. And if that's the case, have you
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seen any particular team that people were betting on?
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You know, we've seen a little bit of the division bets trend.
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I was looking at since Sunday night what we've done in right.
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So we're seeing, you know, there look, I mean the Tigers, there's
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nobody betting on the on the AL Central.
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And so you're seeing the biggest market has been the NL East
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where Mets and Phillies money right going back and forth.
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Cubs got re bet a bit. I it actually went up.
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I mean, it was Milwaukee was Milwaukee was down to I think
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plus 220 and they're back up to like plus 240.
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So the Cubs have taken a little money during this break.
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The Mariners have taken a little bit of money in the ALS.
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And then and then you go back and forth with the Yankees, the
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Red Sox actually taking some money both in terms of of in
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terms of AL futures and in terms of the East.
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I think you still get a decent price on Toronto, who I think I
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favor over the Yankees here. But you're still getting the
21:04
plus, what, 13135 number on the Blue Jays to win?
21:09
Football wise, NFL, let's talk about the sign ups.
21:12
First of all, last time we spoke you were trending up
21:15
significantly over 20% in the regular Survivor contest.
21:19
I saw Grandissimo had a few more entries trickle in this week and
21:23
we know that. I think it's going to be up
21:25
around 30, which is where a lot of people did.
21:28
And then even in millions you're up a little bit.
21:30
Is the is this week been the same?
21:33
Survivor is almost 40% now year yeah, this this week is
21:39
irrelevant kind of because there's not a lot of people
21:41
here. But heading, heading I I think
21:45
the last report I saw was Monday was 40 percent, 39.8%.
21:50
So that's pretty significant, right?
21:51
If you can extrapolate the 40% on top of the 14,000,000, that
21:55
gets you to like 19719 eight. So and then I think we're up to
22:00
6th in the Grand Decimo as well. So continues to be meant.
22:03
And of course, people making their NFL wagers in, in terms of
22:08
really focusing on win totals right now is the largest segment
22:11
we're seeing. We're talking a little earlier
22:14
and trying to who's going to beat the Eagles in the NFC?
22:16
And we brought up Detroit. One team that Ken and I I think
22:19
like but don't love is the 49ers, favored in 15 of their
22:23
seventeen games coming up this year.
22:25
Yet it's an aging roster. Purdy, is there another level to
22:28
him? There's a lot of things that
22:30
have to go right, including Christian McCaffrey staying
22:32
healthy. What are your thoughts on the
22:34
49ers? And if people aren't betting the
22:36
Eagles, who is that team in the NFC that you're seeing a lot of
22:39
action on? Well, I think the 49ers could be
22:43
average and win 12 or 13 games because of that schedule.
22:46
That's the problem there. So they probably win the
22:48
division. What can they go anywhere?
22:50
I think the divisions better. I think the Rams are better.
22:53
I think the Cardinals are better.
22:55
You know who's gotten interest in the last two weeks?
22:57
Tampa Bay. Have they?
22:59
Well, they bring back everybody offensively, right?
23:02
I mean, and a pretty good offense with me.
23:04
If you believe in Mayfield, let's not forget this.
23:10
This team played well against the best teams, right?
23:12
They went into Detroit. They shouldn't be Kansas City at
23:16
Kansas City, you know, Bulls goes for two.
23:18
I I don't think Tampa's that far away.
23:21
And yet, you know, you've seen also people, I think that the
23:26
sharp team in that division, though, in terms of like win
23:29
totals is Carolina. I see people betting ladder in
23:32
the overs going 65 and a half, 6 1/2, seven and a half.
23:36
Some people betting them to win the South.
23:39
A very popular bet for them to make the playoffs though as
23:43
well. So that's interesting.
23:45
But a team that really wasn't on my radar until the last 10 days
23:48
or so, Tampa Bay has taken some money.
23:50
Well, a team in their division, the Saints, they must be, along
23:54
with the Browns, the team that's predicted to have as the
23:57
shortest price as far as the fewest wins.
24:01
Would that be fair to say? And and who else is in that
24:03
conversation? Giants.
24:05
Oh, sure. Yeah, Giants and Tennessee,
24:09
those are the four that take money and that I'm I'm not
24:12
convinced the Saints don't want a tank.
24:14
I'm with you. Right.
24:16
And try and try to get Arch or maybe even Nutsmeyer, the local
24:20
guy there. I just could say they're both
24:21
local because of the grandfather's connection with
24:23
Arch. But yeah, so I would, I favor
24:28
Saints in that market because I think of any of the teams,
24:31
they're probably more motivated to be worse.
24:34
Couple of bets up on the Circus Sports Iowa app right now is
24:38
taking a peek at AP Coach of the year.
24:40
You're not going to give it to an Andy Reid, you know, so you
24:42
can dive a little bit deeper and there's always prices there.
24:45
And then Ken brought this up a couple of weeks back, that
24:47
protector of the Year award, What did that thing feel like?
24:50
It's just set up for a disaster. I mean, betting on an offensive
24:53
line, how do you measure it? Those kind of things.
24:55
Just the award in general, it's so goofy.
24:57
You guys come to the decision to put that out and give people the
25:00
ability to bet on it. Was was that one that took a lot
25:03
of conversation with you, Benson and the crew?
25:06
Well, and then they have this small committee that takes it
25:09
right. It's much different.
25:11
It's not the same group that wrote votes for all the other
25:14
year end awards. So there's a little bit more
25:18
risk to it. But you know, if we can write
25:21
tickets, we're not going to get killed on it obviously.
25:25
So I think it was a good thing just in terms of people having
25:29
interest in it and I think it's a good thing overall if they
25:31
figure it out. But I mean, there's the risk is
25:35
small, so why not? I know that there'll be no Hard
25:39
Knocks bump this year because they're already bumped.
25:42
It's the Buffalo Bills, they're going to be the spotlight.
25:45
But quarterback was just released Micah and I watched I I
25:48
was enthralled by it. I loved it.
25:50
I wish there was more episodes. I don't think that you there's
25:53
such a thing as a as a bump. But I'm reminded watching it
25:57
just how damn good Joe Burrow is and the fact that they got so
26:01
hot at the end. And if they wouldn't have had
26:03
those, you know, confounding losses, including what week 1 to
26:06
New England. This guy should have got I think
26:08
been closer to the to Josh Allen as far as the MVP.
26:12
I get his record was it there and you have to make the
26:14
playoffs. But what about Joe Burrow and
26:17
the MVP market? I don't know but but I think he
26:22
shares blame with Taylor for their being so bad in September.
26:25
It's every year. Yeah, true.
26:27
Not just some blip. I mean, like, what?
26:29
What's their record? 2 and eight or three and it's
26:33
abysmal for five or six years. They're just horrible.
26:36
Weeks one and two bad and then they always have to come up.
26:39
Is that I know part of it was him being healthy, but is he in
26:42
shape every year going into to camp and starting the year?
26:45
Because it's not like their defense is giving up 35 points
26:49
to the New England's and these teams that are upsetting them in
26:52
Week 1. It's because they get beat 2117
26:54
and all that, and the offense doesn't seem to come around
26:58
until the end of September or October, so that that team's
27:02
going to have to score 50 points a game.
27:04
Ken, I mean that that's just the reality of it.
27:06
And you know that the MVP comes from a one or two seat every
27:09
year. So it's not good enough to win
27:11
11 games to the MVP. Interesting way to look at that.
27:16
Hey, Mike, I haven't had a chance to talk to you here
27:18
recently. Couple weeks ago, the bill that
27:21
was passed by the representatives, the OBBA with
27:25
how it goes for everyday or sport bettors.
27:28
I, I know professionals, this is going to be a huge impact on
27:30
them. I think I heard physics say he
27:32
won't bet this year if this actually comes to fruition.
27:35
And there's other people that are like that for the everyday
27:38
for most of our listeners out there, the nickel and dimers out
27:40
there. Does this bill, does it mean one
27:43
iota of a difference for the way that US normal sports bettors
27:47
bet? Unless you win a contest because
27:50
you're not. You're not Who's filing schedule
27:53
A on the. Professionals.
27:55
It's got to look at who's scheduled, who's I'll file
27:58
schedule A. If you win a contest or you
28:02
know, if you're a horse player, it's different because you're
28:04
going to hit tickets that are 300 to one.
28:07
Just betting sports. We're not hitting any tickets
28:09
that are 300 to one. Have you ever hit a parlor that
28:12
was 300 to 1? I haven't no.
28:14
So it's contest or horse players really.
28:16
That's only going to affect for everyday betters.
28:19
At the same time, it's frustrating because we have a
28:20
lot of pros that bet at Circa and we're trying to figure out a
28:24
solution. The problem is Titus bill is not
28:26
going to get to a vote because Johnson is not speaker.
28:29
Johnson is not going to let any amendment to the big beautiful
28:31
bill get to a vote. The only way that's going to be
28:33
able to correct this is new tax legislation that they might
28:36
introduce, that they might introduce in, in September.
28:40
So it's, it's frustrating though, and, and it's just as an
28:44
industry debating with other people who there, you know,
28:46
there's certain people in this industry that think it's totally
28:49
relevant. They don't want the Aga spending
28:51
time on it. So it, it is exhausting going
28:54
through it. I mean, I'm on the phone with
28:55
legislators every day. Interesting.
28:58
I want to go back to the NFL for my final question for you.
29:01
Trent's not a believer. I am Kevin O'Connell can make
29:05
chicken salad out of chicken. You know what?
29:07
Seemingly every year. Doesn't matter who his
29:09
quarterback is. And I have faith in JJ McCarthy.
29:12
I'm not sure I have faith in him to win the MVP. 67 to one, it's
29:16
circa. 65 to 1, I should say it's circa.
29:19
The division is, I think, up for grabs.
29:22
The Lions come back a game or two.
29:24
I think the Bears arrows pointing up.
29:25
I don't know what to make of the Packers.
29:27
Where are you on JJ McCarthy? I know you guys have moved the
29:30
win total from 8 1/2 to 9 1/2. And when it comes to the
29:34
Vikings, I like them and I'm a McCarthy believer.
29:37
More so, I'm a KOC believer. I think when it's all said and
29:42
done, we might think of KOC as one of the great head coaches of
29:45
all time. I really believe that.
29:48
He's certainly a quarterback whisperer.
29:50
He certainly is. He squeezed every oz he could
29:52
get out of darn old. The shame was it just ended the
29:55
last two games and he has faith. He I have pretty good sources in
30:00
Minneapolis and he is very high on this team.
30:03
He says it's his most talented team.
30:05
Look, they got better in the spine of the middle of the both
30:08
their offensive line and their defense.
30:10
Without a doubt. I think they did a good job with
30:12
with the free agency and if McCarthy is healthy, I believe
30:18
this team has a legitimate shot to win the division.
30:21
The only team I don't think will win the division is the Packers.
30:24
I'm with you. That's the only one.
30:26
I don't think that's a shot. I think every other team has a
30:28
shot at the division. Who knows how much the
30:30
coordinators are going to mean. And I don't think that people
30:33
tell me, ah, the Lions knew Ragnar was leaving.
30:35
I don't believe that. I don't.
30:37
They lost a lot of depth in their line, which is the
30:39
strength, and I think they lose a lot on the offensive
30:42
coordinator side. The Bears could be really good.
30:45
Hey, Ben Johnson might be great. They put this kid Williams in a
30:49
position where I mean, if he is as good as people think he is,
30:52
then he's going to really excel this year.
30:55
So I think the Bears have a lot of upside.
30:57
I'm high on the Vikings, so I got him over 8 1/2 / 9 1/2.
31:02
I bet them to win the NFC when they were still 18 to 1.
31:04
Now they're down to around 12:50, so I'm going to take a
31:07
shot with them. You're going to tell me they're
31:09
going to win 6 less games the last year?
31:11
I just don't believe. It I don't either.
31:13
One last thing will be there for Big 10 Football Media days for
31:16
you next week, and I beat the market for once.
31:20
I had USC, that was one of my first bets that I had at 30 to 1
31:24
to win the Big 10. They are down to I think 18 to 1
31:26
currently at Circa, and I'm looking at one more.
31:29
It's the Michigan Wolverines. Now.
31:30
I know you guys normally take a lot more Michigan money than
31:33
other places because of Derek's background.
31:36
If they get one of the two either at Nebraska or at USC,
31:39
one of those two, this team I think is going to be playing to
31:42
get into the Big 10 championship game in the final week of the
31:46
season against Ohio State. That schedule is not daunting.
31:49
The road games are not overly difficult.
31:51
I like the Wolverines. Obviously, Underwood's going to
31:53
have to hit. Am I crazy there and should I
31:55
jump in now when they're currently 12:50 as opposed to
31:58
wait? I think there's tough teams to
32:02
overcome. I just don't.
32:04
Everybody says Penn State, they in the playoff.
32:06
Penn State's going to be in the final.
32:08
Penn State's, and then you got Ohio State that's going to run
32:11
it back. And then you got, I mean,
32:13
Oregon's still lurking out there, too.
32:14
Let's not forget they were #1 as you playoff last.
32:17
Yeah. Never.
32:18
Nobody wants to talk. I think the Big 10 is really
32:20
tough. I don't mind taking a few shots.
32:22
If you get to the title game, obviously you can monetize your
32:25
ticket. What's incredible to me is these
32:27
people who are betting Drew Allen for the I mean, they
32:29
should be they should be committed.
32:31
They should absolutely be committed to an insane asylum.
32:34
If you've bet 1 penny on Drew Allen for Heisman and maybe I'll
32:37
look like it's the worst take in my life, but I'll I'll lay
32:40
everything I have that he isn't in the conversation at all.
32:43
Oh. Man, good stuff.
32:45
Mike Pom, VP of operations at Circus Sports.
32:47
We'll see you on Sunday if you're there.
32:49
Got dinner at Berry's on Sunday. Sunday night, very excited about
32:53
doing the whole Circa experience.
32:54
We'll see you next week, Mike Palm.
32:56
If we don't see you Sunday, we'll see you on Monday or
32:58
Tuesday. Thanks for jumping on with Trent
33:00
and I have a good weekend, Mike. Thank you.
33:02
Yeah, looking forward to hanging out next week.
33:03
Thank you. Yeah.
33:04
Ditto Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circa Sports, a
33:08
Dubuque born and raised in Dubuque, By the way.
33:10
I've been mean to say this. I found a brewery.
33:12
I didn't find it. It's been there.
33:14
A lot of people found it, but I stumbled across a brewery called
33:19
Seven Hills 7. And it's a.
33:21
Restaurant and they let us take Jet and then we ate outside and
33:25
food was fine. The beer is unbelievable,
33:28
really. Oh, and you know me and Stella,
33:31
I felt like I was running around on her.
33:34
And I don't want to buy it here locally because I don't know how
33:36
far. If it sat on shelves for very
33:38
long. I think I'm going to make a
33:39
special trip back to Dubuque. Want to get a fresh for all for
33:42
of all? Things beer and I'm going to
33:44
load up. I want to get the brand what
33:45
it's called. It's called Town Clock.
33:48
Town Clock. That is Seven Hills.
33:50
If there's anybody listening, and I know there is in eastern
33:53
Iowa, Seven Hills, you've got a gem there in Dubuque.
33:57
It's a pilsner or lager, but good God, it's good.
34:01
Seven Hills Beer or Seven Hills Brewery.
34:04
Anyways, we'll. Make a stop across the river I'm
34:07
sure too. Yeah, I'd just love to breathe
34:09
that Illinois. I know, I know.
34:11
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34:37
Midway through two at Wrigley Field, the Cubs up on the Red
34:41
Sox 3 zip say a Suzuki A3 run Homer in the first inning.
34:45
What a year he's having. Yes, Remember one of the talking
34:48
points was he what doesn't want to be the DA he was?
34:51
Pissed. He was pissed, yeah.
34:53
What a what a boost to his career.
34:55
The other big talking point. I remember thinking back to the
34:59
beginning of the baseball season, You remember when
35:00
torpedo bats were a thing? Oh, absolutely.
35:03
Still around. Still around.
35:05
It's just not the fact that the Yankees hit, what, nine home
35:08
runs on Opening Day or something crazy against the Brewers.
35:12
Everybody thought, Oh my God, what are they doing?
35:14
They're cheating now. They've been around for a.
35:16
While one of the stories of the year has been the play of Cal
35:19
Rally, who uses. A torpedo does he?
35:22
And he was one of the guys that took off early and wasn't around
35:26
for the the swing off, not the Home Run Derby, the swing off at
35:31
the end of the All Star Game. Nobody knew.
35:35
Nobody knew, right? We've never seen it before.
35:37
It's been in place, I guess, for three-year.
35:40
I'm kind of hoping next year's All Star game is tied.
35:42
You want to see it again? They got it right for once.
35:46
I think they did. I think they did.
35:47
Well, let's see if you can get it right for once.
35:49
How about a sweep? How many games have you got?
35:51
I got 4. Let's go four and O.
35:53
Four and O. That would stack it up.
35:55
So are you betting just all baseball?
35:58
Baseball 4 baseball? No.
36:00
You want to know in the CFL this year?
36:01
Well, I've been known as Mr. Canadian Football.
36:03
You. Really have.
36:04
Well, maybe we'll try to just keep undefeated for the year.
36:07
No, you know, I'll bet another time or two this summer and jump
36:10
aboard. So I'm playing your Blue Jays to
36:11
open things up. It's Bassett, and I'm not
36:16
Verlander. You mentioned he's going to win.
36:18
Time to hang it up. I wasn't ready to quite go there
36:20
with you. Still got an ERA South of five,
36:22
but I'm going to grab Bassett. Lay the -1.
36:24
Which is first win be against the Jays?
36:27
Wouldn't that just be apropos after your Barry give a week
36:30
ago? Really.
36:32
Give me Tampa -120 Taj Bradley against old Morton, better team.
36:38
Lay the -120 there and then go with two dogs.
36:41
I want the Cardinals tonight. Fought has been terrible.
36:45
Yep, I will grab plus 1/14 with Polente in that one.
36:49
Phoenix, right? It is in Arizona, yes.
36:53
And finally, I'm fading my twins.
36:57
You are right out of the chute. Right out of the chute of the
37:00
awful rotation for the Rockies, Caffrey Lins at least the most
37:04
competent. Yeah, he's the one name you
37:06
might know. If you're looking at a win loss
37:08
record, not very good at 1:00 and 10:00, it's.
37:09
Going to be in the 90s, balls going to be flying I think, of
37:12
course. Looking at it over that over in
37:15
fact at some places, how much is it 11 and. 1/2 Jeez.
37:18
Yeah, they're expecting rounds. Chris Paddock has been brutal
37:20
lately and it's a fate of him more than anything.
37:23
That's the way that I handicap. So I will take the God awful
37:26
Colorado Rockies plus 146 against my God awful Minnesota
37:31
Twins. So Scotty Scheffler is now tied
37:33
for the lead. Here we go.
37:35
He's 6 on the runners round today, the leader's 9 under him
37:38
and Matt's fit. Matt Fitzpatrick, he's is he
37:41
just going to draw it clear? I don't think so.
37:44
I hope not. I hope there's some intrigue, by
37:46
the way. No, it's intriguing to me, and I
37:47
did not know this. The two Danes on the
37:50
leaderboard. Yeah.
37:50
Hoggard How do you say they're? Guard.
37:53
They're twins, they are. I didn't know that.
37:55
Yeah, Rasmus. Is that Rasmus?
37:57
And Nicholas Nikolai. Yeah, he's been around, Has he?
38:02
Yeah. Rasmus, not quite as much.
38:04
How about, I mean, you don't. There's can't be very many twins
38:07
on tour. No.
38:08
And Brian Harmon, let's get him out of there.
38:10
His slow play drives me. Absolutely not.
38:12
It's time for the lead. Moving along, hopefully he
38:14
shoots 78 tomorrow all. Right, that's going to do it for
38:17
us. I'll see you in Las Vegas.
38:19
That sounds great. OK, it does, doesn't it?
38:21
We'll hear the off the bench. It's coming up next.
38:23
Lucas and Sean have a great weekend.
38:25
Talk to you from Vegas next week.