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David Kaplan on Chicago Sports, Hawkeye hoops with Wade Lookingbill & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hour number two, Miller Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network. We take you until 2:00.
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  Coming up toward the bottom of the hour, Wade looking Bill will
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  join us. Former Hawkeye, Wade looking
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  Bill Trent and I will take a look at Ohio State and Iowa
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  tonight. Music means let's head to
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  weekly conversation with David Kaplan.
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  Hello, Capper. How are you, pal?
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  I'm good man, Wade looking Bill. That dude could shoot the
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  basketball. Yeah, indeed.
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  I'll. I'll remind him that.
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  I'll let him know that you remember his career back in your
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  coaching days. He could.
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  Good, good dude. What year would he have been
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  graduating? 91, right, I think around there,
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  yeah. So I was probably at Carver
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  Hawkeye, seeing him play when I was with the well, it would have
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  been 8889. It was just Pacers.
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  I would have been with the Indiana Pacers at that point.
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  And I know I was at Carver Hawkeye multiple times.
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  I know that I was, you know, doing a ton of scouting of the
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  Big 10. So I saw that dude play.
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  Absolutely. So Wade's final season was 9293.
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  Was it that way? OK.
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  He was inserted into the starting lineup after the
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  passing of Chris St. and this is opens a window as we like to do
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  from time to time here. Just about a month pass from his
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  the anniversary of his passing. Do you remember scouting Chris
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  St. and what you thought about him, what kind of NBA player he
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  was going to be? Yeah, he was going to be a
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  really good player. I absolutely remember that.
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  That tragedy was Luke Wrecker there too.
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  Not then at some point. That was later, right?
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  Yeah, later, yeah. But I remember Chris St.
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  That dude could play basketball. That was just a horrific
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  tragedy. Awful.
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  No, no doubt about it. Let's switch gears cap and let's
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  talk Well, let's talk football and I guess stadium first and
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  foremost before we get into I I listened to Ben Johnson
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  yesterday. He moved way up in my book.
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  I'm starting to really like this dude, but the but the the
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  stadium cap. Where are we?
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  What's the latest? Is Indiana A still a a a real
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  possibility, or is Arlington Heights back in play?
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  What's the latest gap? I think both things can be true.
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  Is Indiana a possibility? Yes.
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  Do I think they're going there? No, I don't.
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  People in Indiana get mad when they hear me say that.
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  Why not? And I was on the air yesterday
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  going, OK, let's just let's just think this through for a second.
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  They don't have anywhere near the infrastructure.
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  They have got to do so much money and infrastructure to get
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  this thing where they want it. That's AB.
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  They're like, yeah, maybe they'll move Hallis Hall here,
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  too. That literally the mayor of
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  Hammond literally said that, oh, yeah, they're going to bring the
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  practice facility down here, too.
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  And the Bears had to put out a statement right away and then
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  tell us, I think the Tribune 1st.
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  And they went to the Sun Times. We're not leaving Lake Forest.
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  Let's just be clear where the stadium is.
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  We're still trying to decide. We are not moving and we had
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  people literally calling in mad at me.
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  Why couldn't they live in Dyer or Chesterton?
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  I'm like, OK, Ryan Polls is at the Columbine.
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  You think he's negotiating a free agent contract with, let's
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  call it Trey Hendrickson, who will say, let's see, I've got
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  Dallas after me. They got out in the burbs in
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  Texas and pay me millions. I could go play for the LA Rams
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  and live in Beverly Hills or I can live in Hammond, IN.
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  Not going to happen. No shot.
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  And I don't believe the stadium will be there.
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  Pritzker came out our governor here and said yesterday, yeah, I
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  feel like we're moving towards an agreement, but then it's up
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  to the legislature to approve all of it.
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  OK, that's all well and good. They've got to get that figured
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  out. I'm not.
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  I can't predict Illinois politics because it's
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  ridiculous. But if he is already confidently
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  saying, yeah, we're moving towards an agreement, don't you
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  think he'd have his ducks in a row?
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  He's worth his salt at all as a governor.
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  And if that dude can't get the stadium that he wants to get
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  figured out approved, how's he going to run for president?
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  I mean, and I know every move he makes, the whole editorial here,
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  everything he does is about how it sets him up for a
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  presidential run. So he could say all he wants,
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  I'm going to stand up to the billionaires.
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  I'm not going to give in. You are a billionaire.
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  Who are you fooling? So I think they're going to be
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  in Arlington Heights. I'm betting it's Arlington.
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  Heights The family owns the Hyatt chain of hotels, right?
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  Yeah, his. It's not.
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  The whole Pritzker family does, yes.
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  But the guy who was the chairman of the board who just had to
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  resign over the Epstein files last week, that's his cousin.
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  OK. Interesting.
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  Arlington Heights, let's say it plays out that way.
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  They figure out the politics over there.
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  Everything happens infrastructure wise.
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  You mentioned that on the Hammond side.
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  What needs to happen there? More of a population base going
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  that way. Got all the suburbs out towards
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  the West. I get all that infrastructure.
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  What would need to happen outside of building a stadium?
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  What else needs to happen around Arlington Heights?
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  Well, you'd have to widen Illinois Route 53 to the West.
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  You'd have to obviously widen the all the exits and then I-90,
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  which is right there. And then you'd have to figure
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  out what you're doing with the 326 acres that it sits on.
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  I mean, a stadium doesn't need 326 acres.
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  So you're going to have, you know, with Tommy Waddle first.
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  Nick, how about this? Tommy Waddle nicknamed it when
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  this was first purchased, even speculated 4-5 years ago it was
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  Paradise. He said that'll be Paradise, the
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  bear and the bears. He never did anything with that.
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  The bears trademarked. Oh, no.
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  Yeah, in October they announced, yes, we have trademarked the
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  name Paradise. And I'm like, Oh my God, Waddle,
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  you're a moron. How did you not trademark that?
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  And then you could sell it to them.
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  Yes, yes, but unfortunate, unfortunate soul cap will know
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  when, when, when, when do you think that ultimately this
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  decision will come down? Well, the Indiana legislature is
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  out of session. I think Friday.
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  I think Friday is their last day and they want a decision like in
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  two days. I don't think we're going to
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  have clarity in two days. I don't, but I think tomorrow is
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  a huge day because they're going to vote on the megaprojects bill
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  in Illinois and that megaprojects bill that the Bears
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  have been pushing to get approved would give the Bears
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  tax certainty. And for people out there
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  wondering, well, why, why do they need tax certainty?
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  The highest tax bill of any NFL team is the LA Rams.
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  Now they're in a very high, very valuable land, very valuable
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  people that live in the area there.
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  I get it, it's California. They pay $8.5 million in
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  property tax. Big tax bill right now, without
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  the the mega projects bill, the Chicago Bears are looking at a
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  tax bill the way this state is run here, north of $100 million.
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  Oh my God, you told me that. Last week and no certainty on
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  what the number could get to. So they need tax certainty.
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  They're saying we'll pay you, we'll pay our taxes.
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  We're not asking for a handout on that.
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  And they're the Bears are not asking for $1.00 to build the
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  stadium. They want the infrastructure
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  paid for because it will benefit the region, not just the team,
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  the games that they have. And they'll put 2 billion toward
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  it and then they can finance the rest.
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  And then they want tax certainty because you can't run a business
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  going for a tax bill. This year was 70 million and
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  next year they say it's going to 110.
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  You can't run a business that way.
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  Sports book operators would like to know that tax certainties
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  before they get there and then all of a sudden things changed
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  with the tax rate anyway, as we learned over there, that's for
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  sure that. Side of the river, Hey, onto the
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  field with the Bears. And I guess a little bit
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  interesting. Earlier today, it was reported
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  by Brad Briggs that the Bears have granted permission for
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  Tremaine Edmonds to seek a trade.
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  What's going on there? They got to move the money, they
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  can't pay him, and if they can't find a trade partner, they're
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  going to have to release him. Wow.
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  So yeah, he's a young guy. I mean, he's not in his 30s.
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  He's a really good player. He played 10 games, was playing
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  at a Pro Bowl level and got hurt, was able to get back in
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  the playoffs. Wasn't himself.
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  But he he's a good dude, great athlete, very competitive guy.
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  Was leading the team in tackles when he got injured.
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  And you got to move the money. He's a $15 million savings on
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  your cap. And right now they're negative.
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  They literally are negative on the cap.
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  Now they'll make some, you know, key strokes with a couple of
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  contracts and they'll get themselves into the positive
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  range. But that's why yesterday they
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  asked Ryan Polls about Ben Johnson.
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  I mean, about the DJ Moore and Ben Johnson, and both guys said
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  I can't promise he's going to be here.
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  We got cap issues. His cap hit number this year,
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  coming $28.5 million. He's too much, too much, and
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  you've got Luther. Burden, now Luther's probably
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  your best receiver, but Roma Doonsday was pick #9 two years
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  ago. With Caleb, it's a massive year
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  for him. If he had a bad year this year
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  because he was injured, if he does not have a big third year,
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  well, now you're starting to call that a busted pick.
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  And he's too talented to be a busted pick and too good a guy.
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  You thought for sure they'd pick up that fifth year option when
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  that time is upon him? Hard to say.
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  You know, you mentioned Ben Johnson cap.
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  I get the seasons over the pressure of a regular season and
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  a playoff run that's behind them and it's yet to ratchet up
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  again. I would.
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  I found him really refreshing and in a way funny that I didn't
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  know that that was part of his makeup yesterday was talking
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  about the Packers and the hatred.
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  It's, I think it was Mike that had the peace with Ben Johnson.
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  I thought that was really well done and showed a side of Ben
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  Johnson quite honestly. Not that I need to see every
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  side of everybody. I didn't know it existed.
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  I just thought kind of this guy's kind of, you know, built
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  differently kind of an A hole type of thing.
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  But but I saw some personality from Ben Johnson yesterday.
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  How about that? Yeah, I loved it.
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  I absolutely loved it. And you know, Florio said, So
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  what is this here? Is it for shows because of the
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  rivalry? Nope.
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  I don't like the Packers and they shouldn't like us.
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  And that's good for the rivalry. And then Florio said, all right,
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  if Matt Lafleur called you and gone, what's the deal here, bro?
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  I mean, what are we doing? He said, Nope, he hasn't.
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  We have no relationship. And I do not like the Green Bay
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  Packers, and that's OK. Absolutely.
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  I did too. I thought it was great.
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  You mentioned cap. They need pass rush, they need a
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  defensive line. Hendrickson.
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  He's already said his name. Yes, that that would go a long
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  way certainly in getting to the quarterback.
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  We know that dude absolutely can't do it.
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  What else is at the top of the heap right now as we're going
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  through a combine, all the interviews that are happening,
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  we see Ben Johnson, he's all over the place.
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  He's on Sports Center yesterday. He's all over what What else is
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  the needs both draft wise and free agency you're looking for
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  outside of upfront both ways. Good question, because obviously
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  you've got to get more pressure on the passer.
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  That's probably one on their list because you watch the Super
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  Bowl. What did Seattle do?
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  They were able to just drown Drake May and pressure.
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  Now you also have to be able to stop the run.
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  If you're getting rid of Tremaine Edmonds, you're going
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  to need a linebacker for sure. You're going to probably replace
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  Andrew Billings, who looks like he's expecting triplets.
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  He just put too much weight on and so they're going to probably
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  try and move on from him, which means you need a nose or a three
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  technique. Montez Sweat will be back.
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  So you need one rush edge. And then I expect Kevin Byard to
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  be brought back They as a first name, but Ben Johnson talked
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  about when he's talked about rebuilding the culture there.
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  Well, and I got guys like Kevin Byard and DJ.
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  But I think Kevin Byard will get resigned.
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  I don't think Brisker will you back that too many concussion
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  issues is up for a big contract extension.
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  I think they'll look to replace him.
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  They'll spend money on Byard. They probably need to get
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  another corner because they're going to let nation right go.
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  They can't afford him. So and then you have to have a
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  left tackle. Now there's all these rumors
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  that Trent Williams may be let go by the the 49ers because his
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  cap number for this year. See, what happens is when you
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  keep restructuring deals, you kick the can down the road.
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  Well, we'll just put a huge number four years down the road,
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  then we'll worry about it then. Well, then all of a sudden
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  you're like, oh God, we got to pay this Brock Purdy, how much?
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  And it's eventually you got to move on.
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  Well, he's going to be 38. He's a 12 time pro bowler, A5
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  time All Pro is cap numbers, $38 million for a left tackle.
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  He's he's outstanding player, getting old, probably has one
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  maybe 2 years left. And so if they let him go, the
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  Bears have a gaping hole at left tackle.
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  Ozzy Trupello is probably out for the year.
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  He might get back by December. Well, he won't have trained.
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  He's not going to be ready to play left tackle on a Super Bowl
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  team if they think they can make a run.
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  Theo Benedict's a free agent. He's OK.
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  I don't know if they'll bring him back.
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  Braxton Jones is what he is. He's not a starter on a Super
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  Bowl contending team. So do you move a ton of money to
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  go, all right, what's it going to take to get Trent Williams in
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  here? And if they do, that's awesome.
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  But then how are you spending on Trey Hendrickson too?
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  So you got issues. Yeah, you, you do.
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  The Bears win totals. What captain?
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  I see 9 1/2. Is that what it is 9 1/2?
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  Was last I saw. Yeah, 9 1/2 Obviously we we know
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  who the opponents will be. We don't know where they are,
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  but the schedule is a whole lot more difficult after winning the
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  division last year. 9 1/2 seem right on the surface, not
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  knowing how the schedule is going to shake out at this
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  point. Yeah.
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  I think it's a fair number because Caleb's going to be
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  better. Ben was gushing about how much
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  of a jump he expects Caleb to take.
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  But again, they've been, they've been getting calls for Tyson
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  Baigent. I don't trade him.
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  I don't trade him. I I said on the air, OK, you
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  want them, I want a second round pick.
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  I'm not giving them away for a four and a six.
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  I'm not. He makes 4.75 million this year.
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  He's got a two year extension. So you got in the next two years
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  at a total of $10 million and incentives.
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  If he plays in a perfect world, he never sees the field, that's
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  fine. But on a team that thinks they
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  have realistic got at going deep in the playoffs, you better have
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  a competent backup or you can forget about it.
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  And so Ryan Paul said yesterday, yeah, we've been getting calls
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  and you know, he's due to be a starter and we don't want to
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  hold him back, but what's it going to cost to replace him?
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  Who am I getting? Am I getting some 40 year old
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  guy? Case Keenum's 39, great to have
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  in the room as the third guy, but he's not ready to be the
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  backup on a team in the making a playoff run.
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  So for 4.75 million, where are you getting someone as much as
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  they like Tyson Bajon? So I don't think they're trading
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  him unless somebody called and said we'll give you a pick 26,
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  you want it, we need him. Detroit.
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  Even better, believe he's their starter.
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  Detroit and Green Bay both 10 1/2, the Vikings 8 1/2 round and
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  out that division as far as wind totals.
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  So Detroit and Green Bay are ahead of the Bears.
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  They are. Yeah, 10 1/2.
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  OK. Well, Detroit's got a soft
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  schedule. They get a fourth place schedule
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  cap, so that factors. In they're getting Decker back.
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  And they're they're getting a lot of guys.
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  Back. That'll help.
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  Yeah, indeed, definitely will. Yeah.
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  Over to the Florida. And a little injury news over
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  there, Tyler Austin, And I'm like Tyler Austin.
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  So I saw that the Cubs had signed him.
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  How did it? Well, he played for the Twins.
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  He was a different guy at that point.
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  He's gone over and played in Japan.
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  Was going to what, be a backup? So is that what Conforto is
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  going to be? Conforto now with an inside
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  track of getting the backup for a space job and and being an
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  extra bat off the bench. And is it as big of a deal or
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  maybe I'm just looking at the wrong corners of Cubs Internet.
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  People are freaking out about a backup first baseman.
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  Well, how severe is the injury? Said pretty significant.
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  Where was it? What did I say?
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  Was it 6 knee surgery? Knee.
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  Surgery, yes, knee surgery. But I can't.
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  I can't find a timeline. So if you tell me he's going to
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  be back by may not that significant, they like him.
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  I mean, look, he was a million and a half dollars signing out
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  of Japan. He used to be a big time Yankee
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  prospect and Michael Conforto hit 199 last year for the
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  Dodgers. So he's got an opportunity.
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  Can he come in here and be 1/5 outfielder, maybe.
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  Be your backup first baseman? Maybe.
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  But that's probably the least of their worries.
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  I don't think it's a major deal. It wasn't going to be one of
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  your starters. It was rarely going to play good
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  pinch hitter, they thought. So I don't think it's a
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  devastating thing. You don't go, oh God, how are we
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  filling that role that you can do?
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  If you said, oh, heaven forbid Edward Cabrera or Kate Horton,
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  now you got issues. Yeah, great, Counsel said a
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  couple hours ago, apparently underwent patellar tender
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  displacement procedure. It going to be out months,
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  whatever that means. So we shall see.
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  What What have you seen? What have you seen so far, Cap
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  from this Cubs group as they, what, 4-5 games into spring
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  training? Now what?
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  What have you seen? What concerns you at this point?
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  I don't think there's anything that concerns me right now long
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  as they stay healthy. That should be a 939495 win team
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  if they're healthy. Now if you tell me they get
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  racked by injury, well, then you got problems.
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  But I, I, I really, really like this team a lot.
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  And the Cubs, by the way, they're over under number.
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  Boy, you hope you bet the over 88 1/2 so you think they're.
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  That's what it. Is that DraftKings 88 1/2?
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  You've got them sailing over that.
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  Yes, I I absolutely going to get on my DraftKings count when we
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  hang. Off what about the Pirates cap?
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  This is a team that Trent, both Trent and I like this team not
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  to win the division, but maybe to maybe to be what the Reds
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  were last year. Where are you on the Buckos?
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  They spent a little bit of money.
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  Look, anything that every fifth day can put Paul schemes out
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  there. Then they got Mitch Keller.
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  Like they have a chance to have a decent decent.
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  I don't think they're A-90 win team.
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  I don't think they're a post season team, but I do think they
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  have made progress. I like Bubba Chandler, who's
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  coming up and he's going to be part of that rotation.
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  You're Quitty. He's a veteran that's been
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  around around going back to Houston and.
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  Connor Griffin, their shortstop. Remember that.
• 20:32
  Name O'Neill Cruz. Just fun to watch.
• 20:34
  He's built differently. What you get there.
• 20:37
  Yeah, Going to be a fun one there.
• 20:39
  Milwaukee isn't bothersome at this point.
• 20:41
  I know you in general just don't like Wisconsin, so just seeing
• 20:44
  what they're able to do and cutting.
• 20:46
  He has a. House there, right on the lake.
• 20:48
  Absolutely. Is it just, Is it annoying to
• 20:51
  see what the Brewers do year after year?
• 20:54
  Yeah, they're like an irritant. Yeah, no question about it.
• 20:58
  I don't know how they do it every year.
• 21:00
  They have a very good organization.
• 21:01
  Great manager. Tell anyone their manager is
• 21:04
  awesome. I will not ever tell anyone
• 21:07
  that's not a well run organization.
• 21:09
  My question is that Nacio can't take all his money with him.
• 21:14
  He's never pushed his chips in ever.
• 21:17
  Even when he had the best record in baseball last year, he's
• 21:20
  never gone fall in. Go get me that guy.
• 21:24
  And at some point, you either have to or you become the team
• 21:29
  that trades Freddie Peralta to the Mets and moves on from Caleb
• 21:34
  Durbin and trades this guy and you just become a farm system,
• 21:38
  which that would be hard for me to be a fan of.
• 21:40
  Speaking of farm systems caps, let's talk about the White Sox
• 21:43
  before we let you go. Our buddy Sean Roberts is.
• 21:47
  He's all over at 4:00 and 1:00. Great start to spring training.
• 21:50
  I get it. They don't.
• 21:51
  They haven't had much to cheer and he's being facetious,
• 21:54
  obviously, but where I I I believe ESPN 1000 when you do
• 21:58
  the morning show, they carry the games.
• 22:00
  Or did your thoughts on the White Sox?
• 22:03
  Yeah, we are the home of the White Sox.
• 22:04
  I actually think they're headed in a very positive direction.
• 22:09
  Look, they have Brayden Montgomery, who's the
• 22:12
  centerpiece to the the gear crochet deal.
• 22:15
  He's going to be up at some point this season, maybe June,
• 22:17
  July. They have Edgar Carroll and
• 22:20
  Colson Montgomery, Kyle Teal and Chase Mydrop.
• 22:25
  And then they won the lottery. They got the number one pick and
• 22:28
  it's a really good player. This time it's Rock Selowski.
• 22:33
  I mean, that name fits with the South Side of Chicago.
• 22:36
  He's a shortstop at UCLAA. Lot of people think he's going
• 22:39
  to be an All Star in the big leagues.
• 22:42
  So are they there yet? No.
• 22:45
  They have Murakami, the kid they signed out of Japan.
• 22:48
  They're getting better. This is not the two year ago 41
• 22:52
  win White Sox. I think they're like a. 70. 475
• 22:57
  win team. I would bet the over on them.
• 22:59
  I think they're over. You'd have it right there. 65
• 23:03
  1/2 Sixty. Six.
• 23:04
  They are 66 1/2. Yep, 66 and. 1/2 I bet the over
• 23:08
  got you 100%. Good stuff Capper, you gave us a
• 23:11
  lot of time here today. I missed you the last couple of
• 23:13
  weeks. So great to catch up with you
• 23:14
  pal. We'll talk to you next
• 23:16
  Wednesday. See you buddy.
• 23:17
  I'm glad I'm not calling you from Puerto Vallarta.
• 23:19
  Yeah, yeah. No kidding.
• 23:21
  Wow, isn't that the truth there? Two weeks ago.
• 23:23
  Would you go back today? Would you go back to no, no, I
• 23:27
  lost your schedule there. I've been there a dozen times.
• 23:31
  I've been to Mexico 30 times. Could I ever go back?
• 23:34
  Yeah. Today.
• 23:35
  No, not a chance. No hey real quick the WNGWGNTVI
• 23:40
  mean they let how many half of their staff go yesterday cap.
• 23:44
  They, the guy they let go of nine on air front facing people,
• 23:50
  one of whom was in the middle of his shift, and they called him
• 23:54
  in and said you're gone. And they made the lady, Micah
• 23:58
  Mater, finish the show by herself.
• 24:01
  Yeah, look, that that is a horrifically unprofessional way
• 24:07
  to do business. We're Chicago's very own and so
• 24:10
  we're not. And I worked for WI know you did
• 24:13
  and were owned by Tribune and they were always very loyal to
• 24:16
  their employees. Next Star.
• 24:18
  I have never worked for them. I never will work for them the
• 24:22
  way that they handle it. I know it's business.
• 24:24
  The way they handled it was so disrespectful, so low class that
• 24:31
  I wish the people that are still there well but the management
• 24:34
  team a joke. That's how I found you.
• 24:37
  I needed a Chicago guy and I went on WGN radio and I asked
• 24:41
  for the sports department. And you answered the phone in
• 24:44
  1999 or 2000. We've spoken every week since,
• 24:47
  seemingly. How about that?
• 24:49
  Yeah, I was a hell of a phone caller for for me.
• 24:50
  Good stuff, capper. Thank you, pal.
• 24:53
  Yeah, we'll talk to you next week, pal.
• 24:54
  Thank you. Good to talk to you.
• 24:56
  True story. WGN Sports, please.
• 24:59
  The David Kaplan. Yeah.
• 25:01
  Ken Miller. I'm in Des Moines.
• 25:02
  I do it to him. I was doing mornings then with
• 25:04
  Bob Dyer. I need somebody to talk Chicago
• 25:06
  sports. You want to do it?
• 25:10
  Yeah, he did it and still does it.
• 25:11
  Worked out pretty well. Yeah, I'll say we'll take a time
• 25:13
  out. Wade looking.
• 25:15
  Bill will join Trent and I on the other side.
• 25:17
  We'll talk Ohio State and Iowa tonight. 8:00 tip.
• 25:21
  Carver Hawkeye, it's the Iowa Sports.
• 25:24
  Nori Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network, wherever
• 25:27
  you are listening in the state of Iowa.
• 25:28
  Grateful that you are. We'll take you to win till a
• 25:30
  little just before 2O clock trends, plays of the day.
• 25:33
  By the way, coming up, circus sports sponsor those at the top
• 25:36
  of the hour, Sean Roberts, Lucas Strain.
• 25:38
  They'll come off the bench and take you until 5 O clock.
• 25:41
  Let's talk Hawk, shall we? They're on the hardwood tonight.
• 25:44
  Carver Hawkeye 8 O clock tip is that BTN game tonight Trent you
• 25:48
  know FS1. Not off the top of my head, I'll
• 25:50
  find. It we'll find it.
• 25:51
  Indeed we will. Wade looking.
• 25:53
  Bill will help us out with maybe with the television channel for
• 25:56
  the game, but certainly the game itself.
• 25:58
  Wade, Trenton, Ken, thanks for coming on.
• 25:59
  How are you, Sir? Not know what the TV is?
• 26:04
  Can't help you? BTNBTN Scott.
• 26:07
  There you go. Big 10 Network, yeah, When you
• 26:11
  look at this Ohio State outfit, they really don't have a marquee
• 26:15
  win. Fair to say.
• 26:16
  When you look at what they've done in the Big 10, there's been
• 26:18
  there's really no power team. Maybe the Wisconsin game couple
• 26:22
  of weeks ago that that was a nice win.
• 26:23
  But when you watch Ohio State, obviously Thornton's the guy.
• 26:27
  Is it as simple as that? Is he?
• 26:29
  If they can stop him, limit him, maybe I was got a pretty good
• 26:32
  chance to win the basketball game.
• 26:34
  This is this is a really important game.
• 26:38
  How states that they got some talent.
• 26:40
  You know, I think they're just I don't know if if if if if the
• 26:44
  dealer, if their head coaches is on the hot seat.
• 26:47
  But you know, they almost beat Michigan State the other night
• 26:51
  and the royal kid didn't play. I think he was sick or
• 26:54
  something. But but Bruce Thornton is as
• 26:56
  good as anybody in the in the big 10.
• 26:58
  I mean, he is a dangerous dude and he has he is a terrific,
• 27:02
  terrific college basketball player.
• 27:04
  But you know, it's this is one I was going to win.
• 27:07
  You know, this is they're favored by what, 7-8 points the
• 27:09
  home game. This is one that if they're
• 27:12
  talking about, you know that that finishing eighth in the Big
• 27:15
  10, let's say, and get that double by this is one they got
• 27:18
  to have. Wade downhill offensive players
• 27:22
  embedded issue for this team now for almost a month.
• 27:25
  I mean, we go all the way back to the USC game and Cam Woods
• 27:28
  who scored what? What is it 26 points all season,
• 27:30
  scored 33 and since then they have not been able to stop guys
• 27:35
  off the bounce. Is it the defensive philosophy?
• 27:38
  Is it just a lack of physical ability to do it?
• 27:41
  Why is Iowa struggling so much on the defensive end and
• 27:44
  specifically stopping guys from getting to the rim?
• 27:47
  Yeah, it's a good point that that that kid from Maryland
• 27:50
  really lit him up that I was hoping they were going to get
• 27:52
  that little left-handed blanket on his name.
• 27:55
  But, you know, I, I think it's, it's a combination of things.
• 27:58
  I I think one of the biggest things that they don't have that
• 28:02
  you see with other teams is somebody that can protect the
• 28:05
  rim. It, it, it is so hard to guard a
• 28:08
  guy 25 feet from the basket like, like they want to do, like
• 28:12
  a lot of teams want to do. And it's it's so hard to keep
• 28:15
  that guy from going by you now you do your best.
• 28:18
  But if you've got like, like when I played, wait, wait a 0
• 28:21
  back there so you can be more aggressive guarding tighter 22
• 28:25
  feet in the basket because you had the, you know, first team
• 28:28
  all big fan leading shop locker guy back there to clean
• 28:31
  everything up. And that's one thing that I
• 28:33
  would just does not have is anybody to protect the rim.
• 28:36
  What are you seeing from Cooper Cuts as of late?
• 28:40
  You know, I like it. I like him.
• 28:42
  You know, I sometimes I think he'd be better off coming off
• 28:44
  the bench just to give him change things up.
• 28:47
  You know, he had some, he has some really good halves, it
• 28:50
  seems like. But if he could kind of put it
• 28:52
  together. And again, he's just a freshman,
• 28:56
  You know, you, you, you really forget what, you know, Bennett
• 28:59
  Sturst is 23 years old and you got maybe 22, but you got guys
• 29:03
  that have been playing college basketball for a long time.
• 29:06
  He's played 26 games in his college career.
• 29:09
  So I like what what he brings. He doesn't look as athletic as
• 29:15
  he was last year for some reason, but I I wish you know
• 29:19
  again, what what little I know, I wish he wouldn't rely on on
• 29:22
  that 3 quad as much shot fake, try to go to the basket, but
• 29:26
  he's going to be a great player. He's going to get there
• 29:28
  rebounding wise. A goose egg against Wisconsin,
• 29:31
  had the same no rebounds against Maryland for a guy that's
• 29:35
  playing the four as much as he is, certainly need more than 0
• 29:38
  in that kind of category when it comes to rebounding.
• 29:40
  And Wade, you're a guy that was a good rebounder.
• 29:43
  What does it take, what does it take to to get that mindset that
• 29:46
  you're going to go and get those boards?
• 29:49
  I think it comes down to a couple things.
• 29:50
  One, if you're a, if you're a 611 freak athlete, jump out of
• 29:54
  the gym, you have a huge advantage.
• 29:55
  There's no question. I think what I was got to do
• 29:59
  better is just is just that playing get down and box
• 30:04
  somebody out. You put you box somebody out,
• 30:07
  especially early in the game, you give them a good bump on
• 30:10
  their knee early in the game, they're going to be a little
• 30:12
  less likely or a little more reluctant to crash the glass to,
• 30:16
  to try to go over your back. But it's something that, that,
• 30:21
  that that's not going away the rest of the year.
• 30:23
  And you saw against Wisconsin, I, I was at, at the Purdue game,
• 30:28
  they, they just got bigger players.
• 30:30
  And I don't care how athletic you are.
• 30:32
  Again, like I just said, how much you boxed out if you're
• 30:35
  611, no, a winner being guarded by Isaiah Howard at 65, that's,
• 30:41
  that's a tough assignment to keep that guy off the board.
• 30:44
  Yeah, no, no doubt about it. Wade looking Bill joins us here.
• 30:48
  Well, Wade, when you brought up Bennett Sturtz, obviously he's
• 30:51
  all everything for for the Hawkeyes this year.
• 30:54
  Who does he remind you of now that you've seen him?
• 30:56
  I mean, I know you saw him play with Drake, but that you've seen
• 30:58
  them as much as you have. Do you have a comparison when it
• 31:01
  comes to certs? You know, it's, it's funny
• 31:05
  because you try to compare guys that look like that, you know,
• 31:09
  guys. But I keep coming back and this
• 31:11
  is an old one. I keep coming back to to to Jeff
• 31:13
  Hornacek a little bit way back when from Iowa State had a great
• 31:18
  NBA career with with the Jazz especially.
• 31:21
  You know, Jeff was kind of that 64 combo guard.
• 31:24
  You know, he was more of a point, but could really shoot it
• 31:27
  when needed to. And I think it was the guy from
• 31:31
  Southeast play Northwestern. Sean Morris.
• 31:36
  Sean Morris. Sean Morris made a really good
• 31:38
  point. I think it was Sean Morris
• 31:40
  talking about, No, he was anyway, Bennett's so good off
• 31:45
  the dribble, you know, getting to that 3 point line.
• 31:49
  A lot of guys like say Peyton Stanford's more of a catch and
• 31:52
  shoot guy or you know, those spot up shooters.
• 31:56
  But Bennett is so good off the dribble, not necessarily getting
• 31:59
  to the basket, but that step back clearance space.
• 32:02
  So he gets more of an open 3. But I think, like Jeff Ornis
• 32:06
  said, who was an unbelievable NBA player, great career.
• 32:09
  Good one and could handle it, of course.
• 32:11
  And the shooting that went along with it.
• 32:13
  Like the cop there way looking Bill joins us what other guy
• 32:16
  want to get your thoughts on a guy that the inconsistency
• 32:19
  certainly is there Elville or for Garris now we see fool
• 32:22
  Garris the last time out he actually scores in double
• 32:24
  figures but they lose for the first time all season long.
• 32:28
  He's another guy and maybe it goes hand in hand.
• 32:31
  He's Spanish, he's from across the pond.
• 32:32
  We we hear about that a lot in the NBA and maybe it takes a
• 32:35
  while to acclimate while he's going from playing at Robert
• 32:38
  Morris and jumping up the level here, we know he's a talented
• 32:41
  guy. How difficult is it and what do
• 32:43
  you talk in basketball circles and those guys that are coming
• 32:46
  over here to America and playing the game and now for him,
• 32:48
  playing the Big 10 for the first time and getting them acclimated
• 32:51
  to this level of basketball. Yeah, and real quick, it was, it
• 32:54
  was Don McClain, Don McClain, UCLA Brew.
• 32:57
  And I was talking about being able to dolphin dribble, you
• 33:00
  know, I, I just think with Fulgaris, I just think on, on,
• 33:04
  on the defensive end, they just don't have a place where he
• 33:07
  fits, you know, can't guard the fours.
• 33:11
  Probably not, you know, quick enough to guard the threes at
• 33:15
  six, 9 1/2. He's a really good player.
• 33:17
  He's going to have a huge year. Last year we talked about it
• 33:20
  earlier. He he got the campus late.
• 33:23
  So he's kind of been playing catch up, which, you know,
• 33:25
  shouldn't, shouldn't be an issue now and into March basically.
• 33:29
  But I just think on the defensive end, he just doesn't
• 33:32
  have a fit and he can't guard the bigs, can't really guard the
• 33:37
  the threes. Now they can't guard him on the
• 33:39
  other end. But on that defensive end, I
• 33:42
  think it just they put so much stress and emphasis on the
• 33:45
  defensive end. Iowa does with coach McCollum
• 33:48
  that he's just not. He just can't figure it out
• 33:50
  quite yet, or hasn't quite figured it out.
• 33:52
  Speaking to Figure it Out quite yet, as I go back to last year
• 33:55
  and even the year before and you were on Price Stanford's
• 33:57
  bandwagon. Trent and I weren't really sure
• 33:59
  what what I had here. We're pretty sure what Nebraska
• 34:03
  has here. You were proven right Price
• 34:05
  Sanford obviously having a hell of a year for the Huskers.
• 34:08
  I believe he's still leading them in scoring.
• 34:10
  Did you think that that he would have this type of year?
• 34:13
  I know you like you said, do you you you appreciated his game and
• 34:17
  thought that the light bulb would come on at this at some
• 34:20
  point. Well, it's shining brightly over
• 34:22
  in Lincoln. Wade looking Bill.
• 34:23
  Yeah, I think it's a couple things.
• 34:25
  I I think, you know, it's just, it's such a good system for
• 34:28
  Price, you know, just that that flow and the way Fred knows how
• 34:32
  to mix sets. I mean, Fred's such a good
• 34:35
  coach. I think that helps him.
• 34:37
  And just, he needed a fresh start.
• 34:39
  You know, he was playing kind of with his brother, not, not in
• 34:43
  the shadow of his brother. But what I've said, and you guys
• 34:46
  have asked me about it. How is Price different than
• 34:48
  Payton? I think Price is a better score.
• 34:50
  I think Price can score more, more ways than than Peyton can
• 34:56
  now. Pain, I think is probably a
• 34:57
  better shooter. But but Price had 3333 the other
• 35:00
  night. We were at the Nebraska game,
• 35:02
  also in Iowa City. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 35:03
  We, we, we, we weren't there to watch.
• 35:05
  But you know, it was just a tough environment for him.
• 35:07
  But I think it's a great system. He's got a fresh start.
• 35:11
  And don't underestimate Sam Hoiberg and what he does.
• 35:14
  He's unbelievable. Get guys shots and guard and
• 35:17
  steal the ball. And I mean, but they, they, they
• 35:20
  got a good system and Rink Mast is a really talented dude.
• 35:25
  On the weekend, Iowa goes to State College.
• 35:27
  Now, you played in the old rec hall.
• 35:29
  You didn't get to play in this new building.
• 35:31
  This new building is nicer, newer, and nobody goes empty.
• 35:35
  Yes, and there's going to be dozens.
• 35:37
  Of people there. Oh my God.
• 35:38
  What do you have to do when you walk into environment?
• 35:41
  Like what do you guys probably went to Welsh Ryan, you knew
• 35:43
  there were going to be Hawkeye fans there, so a little bit
• 35:45
  different, but what do you go into, Let's be honest, a crappy
• 35:48
  environment. What do you have to do as a
• 35:50
  team? You know, again, that that's a
• 35:54
  tough trip, too. It's so in 1993, that was the
• 35:57
  first year of Penn State was was in the Big 10.
• 36:00
  And then again, not kids are more used to it now, but that
• 36:03
  was a long flight from Cedar Rapids into State College.
• 36:07
  It's just it, it was really a strange experience.
• 36:11
  Penn States were real. And, you know, they're, they're
• 36:13
  they're struggling. I think to answer your question,
• 36:16
  they just got to find a way to get a win.
• 36:18
  They got to, you know, let's, let's worry about tonight.
• 36:21
  But then we're going to fly halfway across the country to to
• 36:25
  play a team that's they're a wounded animal.
• 36:27
  You know, those guys can't wait for the season to be over.
• 36:29
  I guarantee they're planning their spring break trip.
• 36:32
  But but they want to beat Iowa. They they want to get another
• 36:36
  win. I think you just got to almost
• 36:39
  treat it like a high school game and just say, Hey, we're we're
• 36:42
  not going to be that many people here.
• 36:45
  Just go out and take care of business.
• 36:46
  Last thing for you, and I wanted to bring it up because David
• 36:50
  Kaplan, who joined us prior to you coming on, we were talking
• 36:53
  about you, You know, we're going over the our second hour of the
• 36:56
  show. We got Wade looking, Bill coming
• 36:57
  up at the bottom of the hour and Cappy brought up that he
• 37:00
  actually scouted you when he was a scout with the Pacers, when
• 37:03
  you were back in your time at at Iowa when he was scouting the
• 37:07
  Pacers. Wade, Cappy.
• 37:08
  Cappy remembered you, Wade. I heard, I heard his comment.
• 37:12
  That was really cool. What David said he was a coach
• 37:15
  at. Was it Northern?
• 37:16
  Northern Illinois and the. Scouts and then I knew him more
• 37:20
  from his TV work. So that's kind of why I heard
• 37:22
  first heard his name and obviously a bit bit on with you
• 37:24
  guys. But he is so entertaining by the
• 37:27
  way, he is just honest and just well, you, you you never know
• 37:32
  what his opinion. He will tell you what it is.
• 37:37
  I think maybe he's getting a little older in age.
• 37:39
  I don't think he was there to scout me.
• 37:41
  I think maybe from my teammates. But yeah, that was really cool
• 37:45
  of him to say that. And, and, and and that guy is,
• 37:48
  you know, wonderful to listen to.
• 37:49
  But yeah, he's been an institution and you know,
• 37:52
  especially in the Midwest, Illinois, Southern Illinois
• 37:55
  basketball, he's been around forever.
• 37:57
  Indeed, he has I. Got one final thing.
• 37:59
  So we are removed from 1993 year, senior year.
• 38:04
  And I just saw, I think it was 2 weeks ago, it was the
• 38:07
  anniversary of Andy Kaufman hitting that desperation 3.
• 38:12
  Now I was a kid, you know, I'm, I'm in middle school.
• 38:14
  At the time, I thought every player on an opposing team was a
• 38:16
  jerk. Was Andy Kaufman a jerk on the
• 38:18
  floor too? Because it seemed like it.
• 38:19
  And then when he hit that buzzer beater on top of it to knock you
• 38:21
  guys off, I hated him even more. Any coffins from Jacksonville IL
• 38:27
  and that that dude was a freight train coming down the lane.
• 38:31
  You know what he he was not? He was not a jerk at all.
• 38:34
  Barely said 2 words the whole game.
• 38:36
  He would just come down. I like playing against Andy
• 38:39
  because he was going to score and he he tried to play no
• 38:44
  defense, none at all. He didn't even, I just wanted to
• 38:47
  get down, shoot the basketball, score again.
• 38:49
  He had 30 plus that night. But yeah, that was a tough one
• 38:52
  because that Illinois Iowa rivalry was so strong back then,
• 38:55
  you know, with Coach Pearl and Dion Thomas and just kind of
• 38:58
  exacerbated everything. But Andy Kaufman could score the
• 39:02
  basketball. Great stuff, Wade, Thanks for
• 39:05
  doing this. We'll run you down next week if
• 39:07
  your schedule allows. Thanks, Wade.
• 39:08
  Looking Bill. Appreciate it buddy.
• 39:09
  Anytime. Appreciate you guys.
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  Yeah, I'll beat the I'll beat the Big 10 turn of the two.
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  So let me know. Oh, good.
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  We can do something. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Count on it. Thanks pal.
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  Thanks guys. Yeah.
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  Good to talk to you, Wade looking, Bill.
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  There we go. We got our correspondent for the
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  Big 10 tournament. Andy Coffin.
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  Not the jerk I thought he was. There you go.
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  But that's. My kind of basketball player
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  doesn't want to play defense to just shoot.
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  That's that's exactly how I like to play.
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  But sports fans, right when you were kids, you just hate the
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  best. He hit that buzzer beater.
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  It just it was so devastating. And I think it was their first
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  loss after the back-to-back wins against Michigan State.
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  Oh yeah. And they had the line.
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  I in champagne beat Andy. Such a good rivalry.
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  Illinois and Iowa. Was it not?
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  All right? Trent's plays of the day.
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  They're coming up next. Miller and Condon on the Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network. Radio Network.
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  I found a couple of minutes. Miller and Condon welcome back.
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Des Moines Sports Station One O
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  6.3 KXNO Circus Sports. I got a little wrinkle.
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  Now when we have our new thing we're doing here on the Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network, you can't close out all your tabs.
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  Oh, I just closed that out, didn't I?
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  He did. We're learning.
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  We'll get there. We're going to be, what did we
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  call it, just videoing the show? Yes, absolutely.
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  Broadcasting the video components coming to our
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  program. That's another hurdle that we
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  have to get past, is reminding you because you like to close
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  things out because come 155 and 12 seconds, shush out the door.
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  So yeah, I so I see the camera here.
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  Yeah, we, we did a little test here earlier.
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  When do you think this will be live?
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  Hi. I am hopeful that we early next
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  week, we'll probably go through a couple of test runs.
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  Yeah, getting things figured out a little bit.
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  We have some different things we're doing with backgrounds and
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  things like that. But yeah, I think we're we're
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  getting close to lunch. And and you're going to be doing
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  all of those things. I'm just going to be doing what
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  I normally do. Just sit here and.
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  Talk. Yep.
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  Just have to flip on your camera.
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  Yeah. And I'll there'll be a Lincoln,
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  I guess I can probably get you on it every single day.
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  Very simple. And I think there's a way I can
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  just have the same one every day.
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  It's not like. So where will people find us?
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  YouTube. YouTube.
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  Yes, in fact, the channel is open right now.
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  Just search KX&O Radio on YouTube and you'll be able to
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  watch all three of our shows. And how do I get myself back?
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  We'll do it tomorrow. Yes, yes, we'll do it.
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  You're good. Yes.
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  All right, Well, this is not. There's nothing actually
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  happening right now. It's not going anywhere.
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  It is just is. This part of the connection of
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  Facebook too or no? It'll be there.
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  It'll be social media, Instagram, Twitter, all the
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  different places. You'll be able to watch the
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  video too. We got to move that camera
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  though for you because you're stuck behind the microphone.
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  Yeah, because I look at you this well anyways, this what's way
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  too in the weeds for the listing audience.
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  Now you'll be able to see the Yeah.
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  It's going to be. I like it.
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  I like it. All right, let's see what action
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  and you're betting on tonight. You had nine games yesterday.
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  What was your? Record.
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  We went five and four. All right, we brought home .6
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  units. There you go.
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  I'll take it. Let's make some money tonight.
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  Let's do seven games tonight, just down a little bit. 6 in the
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  men's side, one on the women's. I'm playing the IVA State women
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  tonight. Addie Brown is back.
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  Oklahoma State's decent, OK, they club them.
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  I'll lay the 4 1/2 with the Twister sisters this evening.
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  Then over to the men's side. I'm fading the two in state
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  teams tonight, you and I Grabbing the 6 1/2 with the Red
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  Birds tonight as they make their way to the McLeod Center and
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  Ohio State all over the Buckeyes.
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  Plus 7 1/2 in Iowa City. Other plays.
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  Duquesne -2 1/2 against Davidson, playing Texas tonight
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  against Florida. Tricky spot with the Gators.
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  Arkansas on deck next. Are we overlooking Florida?
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  Well, they can win a national championship, so they got a
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  Condon on their team. Of course they did.
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  And he's playing very well. He is playing well.
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  Wofford plus 7 1/2 And finally, late night tonight, San Diego
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  State will lay the point and 1/2 at home against Utah.
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  State all right, good stuff that will do it for us Coming up next
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  off the bench, Sean Roberts Lucas train take you until 5:00
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  We're Miller and Condon Trenton. I talk sports with you every
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  Monday through Friday from noon until 2 on the Iowa Sports Radio
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