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Almost Famous In Depth: Jess Girod · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I almost famous in depth.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're back with an in depth episode with
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  Speaker 1: one of, if not our favorite from this season, who
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  Speaker 1: you know was released before first. Yeah, she's the first
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  Speaker 1: we personally know. That's true. Yeah, it's hard not to
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  Speaker 1: like somebody, get to know them. We got Jess Gerard
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  Speaker 1: here with us. Jess to kick us off. We've heard
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  Speaker 1: a rumor that you live in Florida. What part of
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  Speaker 1: Florida are you in? Yeah, so I'm in Orlando, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh nice. Do you go to Disney World and Universal
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  Speaker 1: on the rag or not? I am not a Disney girl.
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  Speaker 1: I actually really am not a fan of Disney. But
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  Speaker 1: why please tell us more? Probably sister our big Disney fans.
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  Speaker 1: So when I was like probably in the middle school,
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  Speaker 1: maybe elementary school, I don't even know when they took me.
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  Speaker 1: It's like scarred, Like my mom knows the story. They
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  Speaker 1: took me and it was like one of the parades
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  Speaker 1: and they were like jumping up and down and screaming,
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  Speaker 1: and I was so embarrassed. I was like, oh and
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  Speaker 1: so from then on board, I was like I won't
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  Speaker 1: go back, Like my mom has sister ruined it for me.
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  Speaker 1: I was like I I was like, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: jumping up and down at mascots. Basically, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't do it. I like, can't do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is a common like feeling from a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people that live in Orlando. Um, honestly, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people that live here, they really do like they
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  Speaker 1: have like annual passes. I'm a Universal girl, Like, I
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  Speaker 1: love Universal. I'll go there all the time, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: the roller coasters are fun, like it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: acted you're viewing stuff. But Disney, I'm just it just
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  Speaker 1: feels off me. I'm with you, Jazz Universal over Disney.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to theme parks, it's far more thrilling there.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, but yeah, I don't think you can. You
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  Speaker 1: can drink an epcop. I know that I've never drank
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  Speaker 1: an Epcot, but I hear it's epics. Yeah, it's very fun,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jesse, I was just in Orlando a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago playing in a golf tournament, which I talk
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  Speaker 1: about now all the time because that's all I everyone
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  Speaker 1: would do at Lake Nona. Yeah, very nice. It's very nice. So, Jesse,
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  Speaker 1: are you from Orlando? Yes? I'm from Orlando, like born,
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  Speaker 1: born and raised, born and raised in Orlando, yep. And
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  Speaker 1: do you live at home still? So? Um? I was
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  Speaker 1: in West Palm for the past year and then when
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  Speaker 1: I got on the show, um my least was up.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, so I didn't resign it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so now I'm back. I've only been here for a
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  Speaker 1: few months, but just waiting waiting for the show to
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  Speaker 1: end and move in with some girls. Story of our
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  Speaker 1: lives Yeah, like I'm not wasting money when I'm shooting
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  Speaker 1: a show. Yeah. Yeah. Ashley and I both have done
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  Speaker 1: the move back home with our parents during this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's great, it's the best. It's nice, it's it's comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: but it's also like I'm going crazy because when you
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  Speaker 1: live on your own and then you come back, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: now I'm back, but temporary. So so tell us about
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  Speaker 1: your family dynamic. Do you have any siblings? What kind
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  Speaker 1: of household did you grow up in? Give us a
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  Speaker 1: picture of this. Yeah, so I have an older sister.
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  Speaker 1: She is six years older than me, so she just
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  Speaker 1: turned thirty. And my mom and my dad are divorced.
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  Speaker 1: That got divorced when I was going into high school,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm a lot closer to my mom. I live
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  Speaker 1: with my mom. My sister moved out when I was
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  Speaker 1: like eleven or twelve, so we definitely have a really
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  Speaker 1: good relationship, but very separate lives. When you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: that young and your sister's gone and dating and living
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  Speaker 1: with her boyfriend, you don't really see her that much.
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  Speaker 1: So but I have a Puerto Rican family. I'm one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent Puerto Rican. I don't look it, and I
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  Speaker 1: can't speak Spanish, but my hope. Even my sister's first
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  Speaker 1: language is Spanish, so growing up she had a hard
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  Speaker 1: time learning English. So when I was born, my mom
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  Speaker 1: did the opposite and didn't speak as much Spanish in
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  Speaker 1: the house around me, so that I just grew up
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  Speaker 1: hearing more English. But if you were to meet my parents, like,
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  Speaker 1: they have a strong accent, they look Spanish, they look
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  Speaker 1: at your like, they look very like. We get European
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  Speaker 1: a lot. Like when we go to Europe, people think
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  Speaker 1: we're from there, with my family's from there. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so your family's close, You're closer with your mom, you're
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  Speaker 1: living with your mom currently, you have grown up in
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  Speaker 1: the Orlando area. You went on to university. Correct. I
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  Speaker 1: think I saw to Florida State. Is that correct? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: And then I mean, you're not that far out of
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  Speaker 1: college at this point in your life, So tell us
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  Speaker 1: about the little like gap between college and the show.
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  Speaker 1: What was happening? Why was the show you know, perfect
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  Speaker 1: timing for you? Yes? So, um, right after college, I
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  Speaker 1: moved to West Palm to go after my first job.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually doing recruiting, um, which is not what
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  Speaker 1: I intended on doing, but it was kind of fresh
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  Speaker 1: off COVID getting a job is really hard during my
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  Speaker 1: my graduation period. Um. So. I also went to South
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  Speaker 1: Florida for my college boyfriend at the time, And um,
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  Speaker 1: I really when I date someone, Um, I don't date
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  Speaker 1: around I ever had dating apt before. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: think I've even had like a like a one time date.
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  Speaker 1: I think every guy I've gone a date with I
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  Speaker 1: actually becomes my boyfriend, um two times. Um. So it's
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  Speaker 1: I'm very like intentional on my date and like if
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  Speaker 1: I fall for someone, like I kind of just stick
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  Speaker 1: to it, which isn't always a good trait to have honestly,
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  Speaker 1: so which I've learned that now, but kind of moved
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  Speaker 1: towards South Florida for him, and he didn't really want
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  Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know, I want to be
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  Speaker 1: married by this age, and I want to do this
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  Speaker 1: and this, and like I'm gonna live with my friends
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  Speaker 1: for this long and then we'll live together. And he
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  Speaker 1: was very very traditional and was like that is. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, I'm not getting married until I'm like thirty,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like we're twenty three, Like what like what?
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  Speaker 1: So we were very different people, but because I love
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  Speaker 1: so hard and you know, I thought he was my person,
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  Speaker 1: I stayed longer than I should have. And when we
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  Speaker 1: ended up breaking up, I was a wreck and I
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  Speaker 1: was just not well. And my friend signed me up
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  Speaker 1: for the Bachelor. And I actually got a call on
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  Speaker 1: his birthday. No way, Yeah, I swear like I'm not lying,
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  Speaker 1: like on everything. I was in my best friends. I
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  Speaker 1: was in my best friend's room and I was like
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  Speaker 1: really upset because I was just like we weren't speaking,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, it's just so weird to have
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  Speaker 1: a best friend and then you don't speak anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: then I get a call and I actually decline it
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  Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't know this area code.
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  Speaker 1: And I got a text and I was like, we
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  Speaker 1: just start screaming, Like we didn't speak for like five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: You're just screaming and jumping up and down. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know what this is aside from God,
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  Speaker 1: like even if I don't, because at the point, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, there's no way I'm going on the show,
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  Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna want me. So I just remember
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  Speaker 1: being like, this is just my sign that there's someone
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  Speaker 1: out there for me and I need to stop holding
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  Speaker 1: on to something that's not meant for me. And when
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  Speaker 1: I came here, so wow, that's so cool. So did
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  Speaker 1: you ever watch the show beforehand? Because a friends signed
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  Speaker 1: you up. Yeah, No, I have watched the show. I
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  Speaker 1: watched Sprinkles here and there. But the seasons that I've
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  Speaker 1: actually watched through from start to finish was Hannah be
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  Speaker 1: and Peters Seated Sea. Yeah, those are really good seasons. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to hear guys, it's okay. You're born
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. We are before your time. We
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  Speaker 1: know it's okay. I'm hurt, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, those
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  Speaker 1: are the seasons I watched the most. But I watched
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  Speaker 1: Sprinkled here and there, but um, I just never really.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know that on paper I am young,
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  Speaker 1: and so there was no part of me that was like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys like the bachelor would accept me. So I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't think that. And my friends obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my biggest supporters, and they were like, just do it,
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  Speaker 1: like why not? And so my friends signed me up
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  Speaker 1: and the rest was history. So you've you've mentioned, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're that young for this show. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're young to find love in general.
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  Speaker 1: I found my wife and met her when she was
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. He had turned twenty four. Actually, so now
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  Speaker 1: we're married and it's working out pretty good. But she h.
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  Speaker 1: But you've mentioned a few times just about your faith.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, on a previous episode that you did with us,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned that when you found out that Charity I
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the bachelorette, you shared devotional with her.
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  Speaker 1: That's sounds like a big piece of your life, a
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  Speaker 1: big piece of what makes you you. Do you mind
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  Speaker 1: expanding on that a little bit. Yeah, So in high school,
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  Speaker 1: I was a youth group leader. That was pretty much
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  Speaker 1: all I did. I was very dedicated to my church,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I never drank in high school. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't go to really any parties, and I kind of
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  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of why my personality is the
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  Speaker 1: way that it is today because of that experience. So
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  Speaker 1: good or bad to whoever, whatever people's opinions are. But
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  Speaker 1: that was just my perspective. And you know, my faith
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  Speaker 1: isn't perfect. It's rocky, and you know I questioned God
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  Speaker 1: all the time, but I am a woman of faith,
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  Speaker 1: and I do believe everything happens for a reason. I
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  Speaker 1: believe it was God's plan for me to be here.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I do get a lot of comments
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  Speaker 1: about my age, and you know, all I can say
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  Speaker 1: that a is like, I don't think age means anything,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's how it's when you're ready, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean I am ready. I would never put myself
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  Speaker 1: in this position with the amount of like hate you
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  Speaker 1: can get from this experience, oriented or not. And so
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of a sensitive person and I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't put myself in that position. But what I liked
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  Speaker 1: about The Bachelor was, you know, because I don't really
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  Speaker 1: date around, I'm terrified too, and you don't know a
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  Speaker 1: man's attentions, they'll they won't be upfront with you about
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  Speaker 1: it obviously when are they and with the Bachelor, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know that man is ready, you know what he's
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  Speaker 1: looking for, you know what he wants. So I think
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  Speaker 1: with this experience, I was like, that's so refreshing to
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  Speaker 1: meet someone that is ready for that, because how often
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  Speaker 1: do you find a twenty six year old man that
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  Speaker 1: can compidently say he wants to get engaged in a
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  Speaker 1: month or two, you know. So it was definitely something
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  Speaker 1: that I was very intrigued and interested in. It's interesting
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  Speaker 1: you say this. I wonder if you can at all relate.
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  Speaker 1: Told Ashley this before, but before I was on the Bachelorette,
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  Speaker 1: I was working a job out here in Denver. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't dating, I didn't really have any friends, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what to do about saying yes or no
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  Speaker 1: to going on the show, and so I just say
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  Speaker 1: it set a simple prayer. I said, God, if this
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  Speaker 1: is not meant to be close one door, my friendships
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  Speaker 1: tell me not to, my family tell me not to,
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  Speaker 1: or my workplace tell me not to. And all three
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  Speaker 1: of them flew the door wide open, like, did not
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  Speaker 1: stop me. They said, take us about a cool you
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  Speaker 1: can keep your insurance, go have fun. My family's like,
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  Speaker 1: this is super exciting and cool for you. My friends
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  Speaker 1: are like, it'd be funny to watch you and so,
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  Speaker 1: and then I find myself on the show. Did you
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  Speaker 1: pray or did you consider this or did this just
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  Speaker 1: seem right? As soon as they asked, oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: struggled with with it so so much. I mean like it.
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  Speaker 1: It would depend on the day you would ask me
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  Speaker 1: if I was gonna do it or not. One day
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like yes, when they'd be like no. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think part of that was protecting myself of rejection
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  Speaker 1: if you know that if the franchise decided to go
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  Speaker 1: a different direction and not include me, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to get my hopes up. I think the other
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  Speaker 1: part was also, you know, is this God's plan for me?
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  Speaker 1: Like this requires me possibly quitting my job, This requires
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  Speaker 1: me not resigning a lease and coming back home. This,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when I'm just starting my career. So it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of things that I was having to
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  Speaker 1: really think about. And my family has never watched this
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  Speaker 1: show before. My mom had no idea what this was.
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  Speaker 1: When I flew from my interview, my mom was like terrified.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna like be kidnapped, and she didn't think
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  Speaker 1: it was real. So I was very, very soloed independent
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  Speaker 1: with figuring this out. Of course, I had my friends,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously your friends are gonna they're living through you
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  Speaker 1: and they want to do it. But when you have
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  Speaker 1: your friends saying yes and your family saying this is
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  Speaker 1: really scary for me. I had to turn to God
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times to just figure out, okay, like
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  Speaker 1: take out all the outside noise, what is meant for me?
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  Speaker 1: Like what direction should I go? Because I'm risking so much.
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  Speaker 1: But before the show, I knew I had so much
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  Speaker 1: growing to do, whether it was loving myself, whether it
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  Speaker 1: was speaking up more or you know, all the things
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  Speaker 1: I knew I had to do that I knew I
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  Speaker 1: had to, you know, put myself out there because it
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  Speaker 1: takes me a while to do that. And I was
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  Speaker 1: just like, what's the worst that could happen? I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: leave stronger than I was before. So they kind of
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  Speaker 1: did kidnap you in a way like you kind of
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  Speaker 1: just disappear for three months or two months or ever longer. There.
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  Speaker 1: I was honestly, I was like, if I'm kidnapped to
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  Speaker 1: like my mom was right like that you show up
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  Speaker 1: live in a house so you can't talk to anybody
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  Speaker 1: outside of it. Yeah, yeah, right, that's like kind of scary.
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  Speaker 1: You have to make sure you say mom, dad, I'm
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  Speaker 1: with the producer. They have a nice hotel room ready
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  Speaker 1: for me. Jesse, you are also a believer in Taylor Swift. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned it in your ABC bio and you have
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  Speaker 1: that amazing moment when you were doing the witchcraft in
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  Speaker 1: Europe about what did you say? You said things you
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  Speaker 1: really love? Is that what it was? And you said
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift? So it was Zach everything you'd want in
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  Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift song. Oh you know, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: everything that I wanted him to be. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Taylor. He's Taylor Swift approved for me. Doesn't it
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  Speaker 1: mean he's not Taylor Swift approved for whoever he could
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  Speaker 1: be with. But for me, I think I need more
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  Speaker 1: sparks flying. So ah, great, pun I was gonna say, like, like,
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  Speaker 1: is he kissing in the rain and all of those
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  Speaker 1: dreams from You're You're glad that you saved those moments
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  Speaker 1: for another guy? Yeah, I mean the big question there
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  Speaker 1: then the fall up to that would be, you know
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  Speaker 1: when you heard Zach was gonna be When you're asking
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  Speaker 1: me on the show, did you know Zach was going
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  Speaker 1: to be the bachelor? Um? You know when I was interviewing,
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  Speaker 1: I know that the talk was like it was like
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  Speaker 1: between like four guys. I actually have a video or
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  Speaker 1: a photo of I went to my best friend's house be.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even get my flight yet they announced. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it was final Rose. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: how they announced it was Zach, but at that point
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  Speaker 1: I still didn't know. It wasn't confirmed. And there's this
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  Speaker 1: photo of me sitting on the ground looking at the
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  Speaker 1: TV like waiting for Jesse to like announce who it was.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so sweet because it's like, you know, before
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  Speaker 1: I even knew anything. And I'm glad my friend. Every
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  Speaker 1: one to have a friend that captures these like candid moments.
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  Speaker 1: But so it's a sweet memory to have. But I
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  Speaker 1: had no idea who it was going to be. I
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  Speaker 1: was definitely hoping it was Zach, but it was never confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Charity, there was like talk here and there,
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  Speaker 1: and but was Zach, Like I thought there was multiple
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  Speaker 1: people that they were talking about. So I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: and then literally find out it's him, and then a
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  Speaker 1: day or two water I get on a flight and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gone. So it was very quick and also exciting
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  Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't want to sit here
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  Speaker 1: and like google him and anything. I want to just
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  Speaker 1: go and meet him. So did you have a backup pick?
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  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't going to be Zach? Who else? Did
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  Speaker 1: you want to pay? Not necessarily, I don't really go
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  Speaker 1: for I know this is cliche and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: everyone says this, but I don't really go. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to have like a type necessarily. It's more such
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  Speaker 1: a personality and how someone makes me feel and like
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  Speaker 1: I would need to be comfortable. So it was I
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  Speaker 1: was hoping it was him because he had kind of
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  Speaker 1: a calming, sweet presence and he is like physically someone
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  Speaker 1: that I would go after, but I was open to
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  Speaker 1: any other of the options for sure. Before we wrap
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  Speaker 1: up with you, I know that we talked about it
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  Speaker 1: during the Women Tell All episode that we had you on,
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  Speaker 1: but I think we should talk about it again, just
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  Speaker 1: like you know your your moment, which was you talking
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  Speaker 1: to Zach about the one on one day and how
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  Speaker 1: you hadn't had one and how that made you upset
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  Speaker 1: and it made you feel like you couldn't open up
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to him because you needed that extended period of time because,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like you told him, You're like, I get really nervous
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: with guys that I like, and I can relate to
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that so much, Like I need so much warm up
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: time to really show my true self, and I think
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a bachelor. It was frustrating, and just like in life,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it was always frustrating for me because it was like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I get so clammed up when I would be around
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a guy that I liked, But I was like, please, please,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: please let him give me enough chances and enough time
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: for my real personality to come through. So was there
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: anything anything besides what we saw on TV that you
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: want to discuss about your relationship with Zach and just
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that night? I mean, of course conversations were shortened, but
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: every conversation we had like he was very, very reassuring.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Leading up to our breakup, we did have a private
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: conversation where he did address his concerns about his hesitations
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: about my nerves and me not being vulnerable, and that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was when I was it was still the same kind
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of misunderstanding that we had in our breakup, but it
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: kind of like sparks that idea and going into of
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like okay, like I see where he's coming from, like
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: let me work on it. That Estonia which date was
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: very uncomfortable for me because I am Christian and I've
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: never practiced which craft, and you know, I kind of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: looked at it as like, this is a really cool
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: experience to learn about the Estonian culture and you know
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. And when I was going into that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: conversation with Zach, I was going to open up about
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: my faith and I did. I talked about me being
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a Christian, and I think that's when he mentioned he
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: was Catholic and I was trying to get more into that,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and then it switched on over right to our conversation.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: So you know, it was tough because I felt like
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I was trying to be vulnerable and you know, give
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: him what he what we previously discussed, and so I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: thought that's kind of like the biggest part that like
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: no one really got to see was it I was
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: really really trying. And that added to my confusion of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like I'm confused why this is happening. So I would
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: say talking about religion is definitely an intimate conversation. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I thought it was so. Yeah, And you're confused because
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it felt like, what, there's a disconnect, like there wasn't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: an intrigue or interest back from his side. Um, not necessarily.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't go into that expecting, like I didn't, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: even though as a Christian you should be dating someone
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that is strong in their faith. Honestly, every man updated
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: hasn't been. But I wasn't going into that trying to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: get that out of him. I just wanted him to,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, understand why that Witchcraft date was a little
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: bit weird for me, and kind of getting insight of like, oh, well,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: this is why it was weird for me, let me
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: explain to you. And I did have a conversation with
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the witch privately, and we talked about my confidence and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I was really excited to share that with him. When
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the when the kindle light and out, we got to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: discuss what I was talking with the witch and she
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: told me, you know, it might go out sometimes, but
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: when you ReLit, it's it's the start of a new chapter.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And I was excited to share it out with him,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you know. After we had a private conversation that about,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you know, our relationship, and I was excited to be like, well,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: now there's a new chapter that we can we can
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: start on. And so it was. It was definitely tough
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: because I was trying to get there, and then the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: disconnect that we had from that private conversation led into it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So okay, So this brings up a whole other thing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It brings up a theme. Why does Zach get so
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: freaked out when there's some sort of disconnect. You're always
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: going to disconnect with anybody, even the most perfect person
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: for you. You're going to have an argument where you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: don't see eye toy. That doesn't mean you should just
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: let the person go. Do you feel like this is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a trend um? I mean yeah, it has a no.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, you know, the disconnects that
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: he's had with other women. I don't know if he
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: necessarily sent him home right away because of it. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: think it added to it. I think kind of like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: what I was saying before was he could have been
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: more sensitive, but he already knows that. That's like, if
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: he knew I wasn't his person, you know, why continue on?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And maybe he just wanted to get right to the point,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: but I definitely he could have been more sensitive for sure.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: But Jess, it's weird because then later on that night
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you walk into your one on one conversation with him
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and he says, I'm really confident about us. Then you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: have the meat of the sandwich, and then at the end,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the bread, he goes, I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: not confident anymore. Goodbye. Yeah, it's it's a very strange situation.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: You know. I don't think in reality I even caught
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: on him saying that, or else I probably would have
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: been like you just said that, yeah, honest. But I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: think it's funny because later that episode he goes on
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that one one with Ariel. Then he says, this time
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: together is what like I got to know you more
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and like you're awesome, and it's I remember watching that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like yeah, like that like me too, and any other
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: woman too, Like that's what happens when you spend time
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with people. You get to know them and you fall
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: for them or you don't. And I think for me
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it was one of those things where it was like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I like I really thought me and Zach would click.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So it's like, give me that time to show you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: more of me if that's what you want to see.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But when it was happening, I was like, I'm not
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: going to beg for you to understand my perspective if
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you don't want to understand it, like that's on you,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna sit here and keep trying to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: make you understand. Well, I think at that moment you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: inspired a lot of girls just by saying the line
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna beg it for your Would you
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: say you're not gonna beg for your what I'm not
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: gonna beg for you or things? I said, yeah, And
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you're just not gonna beg for him. To see what
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you're trying, it's like you're just not going to fight. Yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: there's a different seen fighting for somebody and then like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: begging for someone. So I was actually scared when I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: said that because I was like, does he want me
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to get back for him? Like I don't even know?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: So I was like nervous, but it's why, I don't know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It's what I felt. So well, if he did want
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you to beg for him, he ain't worth it. So
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you did, all right? You did? Okay, Well, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: for as limited amount of time as Zach took took
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: advantage of spending with you. We have been able to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with you, and it's been
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: awesome to get to know you. And I think the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: future is very bright for you. Again I said earlier,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a lot of you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: on television and it's gonna be awesome to see your
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: story play out. So as we sit here now, woman,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: til all has aired, you don't know if you're going
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to be on TV again. Your time on the Bachelor
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: franchise up until this point is done. Who knows what
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: happens in the future. What is next for you as
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you sit here today, What have you learned about yourself?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to in the future. What
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is next for Jessica? Yes, so I am really focused
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: on my career right now and moving, which is what
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've mentioned it yet. What is your career? Yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: so I do merchandizing, e commerce merchandizing, so working for
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you know, big corporate companies and kind of like you know, buyers.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It's like a period of fashion merchandizing basically, and then
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I also do marketing on the side for a small company.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So kind of just in the direction of just the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: fashion industry. But I love Florida. I would love to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: raise a family here, but I feel like I want
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to continue to push myself out of my comfort zone.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And as of right now, my goal is to move
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to California. I've only been there for this show, so
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I but I've always wanted to go, and I've always
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to live in like a cute, little small beach town.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I don't only think Alla's my vibe, but definitely somewhere
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that's just like, yeah, like a small beach town. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that's my goal. A few of us on the show
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I want to move together. Um So right now just
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: kind of figuring out how I can get myself there.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Um But you know, the world's might oyster. So wherever
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I end up, I'm sure I'll make the most of it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Should I do five random I would like to so
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I was hoping you did. Here's here's an interview here.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm interested in this question mostly personally. Most
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: people maybe wouldn't be. But your faith is so much
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of who you are. You've talked about it a lot,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You've gone into detail. You mentioned it to zach Um
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: coming off the show now has has what are the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: big questions around around you in your relationship with God
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and what this was all about? Like do you have
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: any questions swirling around your head? Or do you feel
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: pretty peace of mind about all this experience? Oh my gosh,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I always have questions. Um. You know, I think a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: question I've had before and after the show is like
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like do I need like should I stop going after
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: men that aren't a faith? Um? And also like who
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: am I to make that judgment if my faith is
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: not at its best place as it used to be. Um.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: That's like one of my questions for myself that I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: struggle with. UM. And I think, Um, this franchise really
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: really likes big personalities, and UM, I'm not gonna cry,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: so I don't want to cry. Mum. I don't know
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: why I'm crying on a podcast. There. I've cried many
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: times here, You're fine, this is a space wow. Um. Anyway,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: So this franchise really likes really big personalities and I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: never thought that not having that would be a fault. UM.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: So it's been a lot of like although like you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: looking back on this show, I've loved myself in terms
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of with like men and stuff, but like not begging,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm proud of myself for that. But also there's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: another take of like is there like a fault and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: should there be a fault of not being a big
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: TV personality and does that make me not worthy enough?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's been a lot, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: just being a girl and going in my own head
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But so that's a lot of conversations that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I'm having of just like figuring out like what I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: bring to the table and like it being enough. So well,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the worst thing and Eboul can do is
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: tell you how you should feel or tell you what's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: wrong or right here. But I think if you did
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: watch my season back when you were probably in middle school,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you would see that you and I are very similar,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and that you would see that you and I both
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: were probably not made to be on TV. But here's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a piece of advice I want to share with you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's going to help her her.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: There's two things that have been said to me since
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: my time on the show that have changed the way
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I see what's next. The first is from the former
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: host of the show, Chris Harrison. We get off the show,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and we're sitting at a bar. If share this story
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: many times, long story short, We're having a glass of
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: whiskey and he has been what is this all about?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: For you? Like, what are you gonna do with this?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You know the world is your oyster. You have just
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: been the Bachelor. What are you gonna do with it?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know. I'm not made
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: for this right. Relevancy feels exhausting to me, and the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: spotlight is at times very anxiety driven for me. I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: don't know what this looks like. And he said, Okay,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: here's my piece of advice. Use this thing that you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: just did to enhance the life you've already had, not
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: change your life completely. The second piece of advice was
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: for my best friend, because I was asking the same
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: questions that you were asking yourself right now. I was
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: feeling very insecure about the fact that I was not
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the biggest personality and that some would say I was boring,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and that some would say that, you know, I wasn't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: made for this, and I wasn't. Who said, then, this
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: whole thing has never meant to be about you. It's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: always meant to be about something bigger. It took the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: pressure off and it's changed everything I do, and so
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: take it, leave it. I think you were made for it,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and I think there's a reason that you're on this show.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And I think the reason is for who you are,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and not for who you can become or what you're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: going to change into, just for who you are, so
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: to get to know who you are a little bit better.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Ashley always ends this in the most fun way. Um,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Jesse, you are the sweetest. You're the sweetest,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and your personality it's shown. It's shown here on these
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: podcasts and in your moments on the Bachelor. So I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: just want you to do Sorry, it's not expecting to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: tear up, but Jessica, I bet eighty five percent of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: our in depths, we either cry or the guest cries
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: in Like, I just want you know. That's like very common.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Like it does feel better. It does not make me
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: feel weird. In fact, I go finally, like we're getting
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: some real stuff here. We're not talking about dating on TV,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: like we're gonna know her. Yeah, yeah, fulfilled. It's very
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: fulfilling when we're like not talking about sex week. Yeah yeah, okay,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: all right fun of fact time, if you had to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: choose a celebrity lead to have led your season besides Zach,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: what guy would you want it to be? Okay, well,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I have one guy from Bachelor Nation, but I will
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: take that. No, that's the next question. That's who do
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you want to see in Paradise? Oh, I'll answer that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: one next. Okay, so the lead, I would say, oh,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, he has no celebrity crushes, but
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: she does have bachelor crushes. I don't think I'll say
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor one because he would never go. But I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: would say maybe like, um, Harry Styles. Okay, good answer,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: such an ease. Yeah, the same answer my wife would give.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It's the same answer. Jeez, he's he's hot. Right now,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: there's a guy from the last no Vikings Valhalla. I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: don't know his name, but he is so cute. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: don't know his name, but he's like I think he's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Scottish or something, but I'm like, he's he might be
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the most handsome man. I remember I didn't know his
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: name because that would have been different from him. I
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: just finished that show, and I know exactly what you're
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: talking about because I point him out to my wife.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, isn't that dude handsome? Like, yeah, he
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: knows I'm talking about that guy. Okay, okay. I feel
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: like you're saying that it's tyler Ce, that you would
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like to see him Paradise and that you don't think
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: would ever come. I mean every girl would say that,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: like he's he's a cutie, you know, yeah, and he
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: is up everything. I don't know. Maybe Okay, Well, will
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you be upfront with us if you do meet so
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and so in Paradise he would never go, well, I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: mean really like your pick would never go you're saying
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: never ever go? Oh? I mean I am so excited
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to meet any guy that goes to Paradise. God's good. Okay, okay, okay,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: A more answer answerable question for you. What is your
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: favorite Taylor Swift album? Oh? Easy folklore? Oh folklore? So
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you like more offbeat? I like very like you no
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: sweet slower songs. But my friends think I'm in my
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: reputation era, so that's I might be that might be
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: my album right now. So, I mean that moment that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you had was pretty reputation. Yeah. I feel like Taylor
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Swift is very close to starting her own religion, like
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the way that Ashley talks about well, I know you
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: also believe in Taylor Swift. Oh my gosh. The amount
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of girls that have DM me over me saying Taylor
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Swift Like, yeah, girls have been like I love you
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: because you love Taylor Swift, and I'm like, I'm glad
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that's the reason. Thank you. I'm always like when people
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: tell me that too, I'm like, but don't we all like?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Does that make me unique? I feel it makes me
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: less unique because she's my favorite, Like I feel pretty basic.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But I'm if I find someone that doesn't like Taylor Swift,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, something wrong with you? But all right, to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: each their own. Okay, how about this question? How do
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you feel about mustard on pancakes? Would you eat them? No?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I would never them. What is your favorite food? Um?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I love seafood, So I think I'm still trying to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: figure out my favorite my favorite food because you know
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that trend where it's like what would you eat on
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: your death row? Like what would your death row meal be?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Were you picked last food? And I have I don't know.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: My answer to that is different every time, but what's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: always consistent is sushi. I love sushi. Love sushi too.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Prison sushi sounds really good? Yea, how it would have
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: crossed like an ice cream Sunday or some okay, sounds good.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds good. So then when you were going through your
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: suitcase while you're at the mansion and while traveling, how
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: did you pick which dresses to wear? When Oh, gosh,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know what, Honestly, I picked my worst every time
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: because I didn't think he was like. I just was.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I was believing what he was telling me. So I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm fine. So um that was like my
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: biggest thing. When I came home, I was like, I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: didn't get to wear my favorite dresses because I literally like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was so thrown off. Oh, Jess, I'm more heart
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  Speaker 1: heartbroken for you now I know. And it's funny because
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  Speaker 1: everyone tells you wear your best first. Yeah, I feel nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny that you feel for her. I feel nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that makes sense. She had a good strategy.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't play out. We're fine, Oh she did. She
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  Speaker 1: had a great strategy with the amount of reassuring he
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  Speaker 1: did with her. But yeah, you definitely go best first.
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  Speaker 1: It was a funny story. So the night that I
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  Speaker 1: went home a woman's intuitions everything. Then I went home.
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  Speaker 1: I knew I was getting sent home. I had like
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  Speaker 1: obviously I was still blindside. I know people were like,
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  Speaker 1: how are you blindsided? But then you knew you were
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  Speaker 1: going home. We're women, That's what happened. So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: something's going to happen tonight. And I actually wore Cat's
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  Speaker 1: dress and I wanted to the dress that I was
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  Speaker 1: saving for a one on one and I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna save that for the one on one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear that tonight. I was like, I'll
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  Speaker 1: wear your dress tonight, and I remembered like in my interview,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to take this off. Like
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  Speaker 1: I was like I don't want to wear this dress,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to wear it, and like we
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  Speaker 1: had to leave and they're like you have to keep
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  Speaker 1: it on, like let's go, and I was like I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to wear it. I was like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get dumped in this dress. And then I got dumped
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  Speaker 1: in the dress, and I really was like I should
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  Speaker 1: a warred my one on one dress, Like damn, how
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  Speaker 1: did you get it back to her? Um? You you
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  Speaker 1: hand it off to a producer. Yeah, yeah, okay. My
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: final question is a two parter. Which of your Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: castmates would you feel would best help you survive on
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  Speaker 1: an island. I'm not asking you who you'd get along
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  Speaker 1: with best, but who would best help you survive? Katie?
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  Speaker 1: Why's that? I just well, I love her so I
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  Speaker 1: would never get annoyed with her on an island a loan,
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  Speaker 1: and she just I just she really just knows so much,
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  Speaker 1: like she's so knowledgeable her aerial. Actually, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they both are very, very knowledgeable, and I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they would know how to survive, and they
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  Speaker 1: would they would know some tricks up their sleeves. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Okay, who would flounder? Who do you definitely
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  Speaker 1: not want to be because you be the one pulling
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  Speaker 1: all the way. Kat Okay, Cat would agree with me too.
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  Speaker 1: I think she knows that she would not. I think
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  Speaker 1: she would be like freaking out and I would have
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  Speaker 1: to like hit her with a coconut or something. All right, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you are the cutest. Thank you for answering all your
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  Speaker 1: questions of being so vulnerable. Thank you. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: You guys, you spent a lot of time with us
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  Speaker 1: and we were thankful for it. Again, if you didn't
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: catch Jessica breaking down the woman tell all with us,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: that's in a previous episode. You can find that in
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: our feed as well. This has been an in depth
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  Speaker 1: episode and we're very thankful that you did it. We
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  Speaker 1: wish you the best. You can always have a place
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  Speaker 1: to come back to here. We'll be kind. I promise,
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  Speaker 1: not that you'll ever have a reason for us not
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  Speaker 1: to be, but these next few months for you are
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  Speaker 1: going to be incredible. We're excited to watch them. Until
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: next time. I've been Been, I've been Ashley, I've been
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