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  Speaker 1: All right, our next guest signed up for none of this,
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  Speaker 1: but he did not know this was going to be
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  Speaker 1: the lead in for his segment. Don't know if he
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  Speaker 1: has any information as an ESPN employee, but if he
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  Speaker 1: has any information about these boomer backside developments, my son
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  Speaker 1: here for that. My sense is he'd like to stick
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  Speaker 1: to college football, which he knows well, and especially college
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  Speaker 1: football into Carolina's man, being a guy down there in
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  Speaker 1: the Palmetto State, he knows it well down there. And
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  Speaker 1: let's talk some college football with one of ESPN's play
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  Speaker 1: by play voices, Roy Philpott, who joins us here on
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  Speaker 1: the Mac and Bone Show. Roy, thank you for coming on, man.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, gentlemen? Doing well? Excited for college football?
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  Speaker 2: I have no insider knowledge on the rear end of boom,
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  Speaker 2: but I have I have seen the topic trending this morning.
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  Speaker 2: It had a good chuckle and just you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't really know him very well, but I'm sure he
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  Speaker 2: was probably laughing at himself.
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  Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Well, well, you're here for college football talk,
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  Speaker 3: of course, and you know here a lot to talk
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  Speaker 3: about Clemson in the state of the program. How how
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  Speaker 3: do they get back to a level of dominance that
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  Speaker 3: they once had, or do you think in this era
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  Speaker 3: that that Clemson is no longer that team anymore, that
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  Speaker 3: program anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's tough for the fun of dominance
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  Speaker 2: that they Clemson had playing essentially for what four national championships,
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  Speaker 2: winning two and just stockpiling talent, especially at quarterback and
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive line. Alabama did it in the last decade.
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  Speaker 2: I know, Georgia kind of did it at the early
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  Speaker 2: stages of this decade. You know, Ohio State, I would argue,
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  Speaker 2: guys is still kind of doing it. But in this era,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like it's it's hard to build that
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  Speaker 2: super team the way maybe that we saw it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: eight to ten years ago. So now, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's unlikely that they get back to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: competing for national championships every other year. But can they
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  Speaker 2: go back to the playoff? Can they make runs in
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  Speaker 2: the ACC? Could they make a run in the Atlantic
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  Speaker 2: Conference this year? Yeah? I think the answer is yes.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're going to have to deal with Miami. But
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  Speaker 2: they get Miami at home this season, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is helpful, and you know, maybe that's the first of
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  Speaker 2: two meetings, or maybe it's SMU's time and Brett Lashley
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  Speaker 2: or Louisville or you know, can Virginia build upon what
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  Speaker 2: Tony Elliott did last year? So no, I think the
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  Speaker 2: road to get back to that level of dominance is
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  Speaker 2: really hard to picture and hard to fathom. But can
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  Speaker 2: they be a much better version of themselves losing close
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  Speaker 2: games the way that they did last year, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to Syracuse and to Duke and you know, things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think they can be much better than that. And
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  Speaker 2: I would think that they're better than that this year.
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  Speaker 2: Are they a playoff team this year? They've got my doubts,
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  Speaker 2: But I think that they could win you know, eight
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  Speaker 2: or nine games. It'd be in the conversation by the
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  Speaker 2: time we get to November.
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  Speaker 1: Roy one of the fascinating things about Clemson. And I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm preaching a choir with with your knowledge of
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  Speaker 1: the program and the fan base, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fans trying to figure out what's a fair expectation for Dabbo,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like and and some maybe they're not being fair.
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  Speaker 1: Some are like, hey, let's you get back to where
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  Speaker 1: you were. We want to move on. It's a different
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  Speaker 1: era it's a different time in college sports, and he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't you know, thrived in it like he did the
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  Speaker 1: previous era. So like, what do you think the like
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  Speaker 1: what's fair expectations? Like ten and two, nine and three, Like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you how would you describe that to fans
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  Speaker 1: on what what would be a fair expectation?
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  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, well, coming off of seven and six, I
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  Speaker 2: mean you start with the bottom line of all right,
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  Speaker 2: can you get to eight wins? Can you be that
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  Speaker 2: eight wins by the time you get to mid November?
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  Speaker 2: But I think really, you know, I would set the
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  Speaker 2: bar at nine and three. Like if you were nine
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  Speaker 2: and three, maybe you beat a team you weren't supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that team is Miami, Uh, you know, maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: somebody else. If you got to nine and three and
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  Speaker 2: you're in the mix to go to Charlotte and go
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  Speaker 2: to the a SEC Championship and be a playoff continder, Remember, guys,
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  Speaker 2: this year the collegetball playoff is different. The ac C
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  Speaker 2: champion the power forour champions all get the automatic invite
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  Speaker 2: to the playoffs. So like you do have that pre pass,
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  Speaker 2: if you can just find a way to get back
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  Speaker 2: to Charlotte, and win that game you're in regardless of win.
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  Speaker 2: So I think a if you could get to the
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  Speaker 2: playoff no matter how, that would certainly I think you're
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  Speaker 2: overachieving this coming season. But if you're in the conversation
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  Speaker 2: in November, I think Clemson fans expect to be kind
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  Speaker 2: of in that mix. But realistically, I think you'd have
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  Speaker 2: to be happy with nine and three. Like, if you
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  Speaker 2: can somehow find a way get to nine and three.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you don't look hideous in the opener against LSU,
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  Speaker 2: you're competitive against Miami, maybe have a chance there. You
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  Speaker 2: don't get tripped up against Syracuse or you know some
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  Speaker 2: of those other teams that you're massively favored against. To me,
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  Speaker 2: just substantial improvement and the optics look substantially better and
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  Speaker 2: get close to that nine win number, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that would be improved. Would shut a lot of people up.
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  Speaker 3: That's the voice of Roy Philpot ESPN and serious here
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  Speaker 3: on the MAC and bo Joe Roy, what's the ceiling
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  Speaker 3: for this game Cock squad? It's a huge year for Beamer,
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  Speaker 3: but what's your expectation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they bring back Lenora Sellers and he's got an
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator that's competent and knows what he's doing in
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  Speaker 2: Kendall Brill's and I love that combination. So by default,
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  Speaker 2: I think Brill's Sellers, the acquisitions that Shane Beemer made
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  Speaker 2: on the offensive line, particularly a tackle, gives them much
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  Speaker 2: more of an identity and much more confidence coming into
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  Speaker 2: the year. So honestly, I think it's similar to Clemson.
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  Speaker 2: Now the schedule, You're gonna have to deal with some
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  Speaker 2: different things, you know, playing in the SEC. But can
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  Speaker 2: you get to eight or nine wins and be in
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  Speaker 2: that mix by the time you get to November? And
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  Speaker 2: that may sound outrageous for a team that just went
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  Speaker 2: four to eight, but I think when you have Lenora's Sellers,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen him in glimpses two years ago look like
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  Speaker 2: a Heisman Trophy not only contender, but favor We saw
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  Speaker 2: him look like a first round draft pick at that position.
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  Speaker 2: The change in offensive play caller, I think is massive
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  Speaker 2: for him and for South Carolina. So you know, to me,
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  Speaker 2: I think if Shane can get to eight wins, that
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  Speaker 2: also quiets some people in Columbia. That would be my
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  Speaker 2: expectation this year, especially if Sellers can stay healthy. But
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  Speaker 2: I think his skill set with Kendall Briles building that
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  Speaker 2: offense around what he does, you're going to see him,
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  Speaker 2: I think, cut loose, and I think he's gonna remind
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  Speaker 2: us a lot more of twenty twenty four than what
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  Speaker 2: we saw last year when just the offense never got
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  Speaker 2: going and couldn't get get you know, get out of
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  Speaker 2: its own way. So I think similar to Clemson, I
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  Speaker 2: think those are two teams that could be sitting there
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  Speaker 2: right around eight and three when they play each other
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  Speaker 2: in that season finale in Death Valley the end of
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  Speaker 2: November would shock me at all.
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  Speaker 3: You called that game two years ago, right, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I need you on this year's call. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna make some calls here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, and look, I'll say one thing about that game.
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  Speaker 2: For all the games I've ever called on ESPN and
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  Speaker 2: college football watching sellers that day, I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen a performance like that in a game
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  Speaker 2: that was arguably the biggest game in the history of
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  Speaker 2: that rivalry given the stakes and you know, both teams
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  Speaker 2: contending for playoff first at that point in time. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that left an impression with me, gentlemen that still lingers
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  Speaker 2: to this day. I know what he can do, and
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  Speaker 2: if he even gets close to that this year at
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  Speaker 2: twelve games, they're going to be a very tough team, to.
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  Speaker 1: Be absolutely, man, I'm looking forward to seeing them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: also looking forward to Royce and NC State this year.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're getting a bit of hype there getting there's
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  Speaker 1: some people that are looking at their schedule noticing CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Bailey and how good he is and wondering could they
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  Speaker 1: be a dark horse in the ACC. You also have
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  Speaker 1: NC State fans that when we start hyping up and
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  Speaker 1: reading all this hype for their team, they get paranoid,
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  Speaker 1: right because that's when things go badly. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: for them, what do you think about them? Could they
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  Speaker 1: be a bit of an ACC dark horse?
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  Speaker 2: I love me some Dave dorn Right. I mean he's
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  Speaker 2: been there forever. He woke up this morning grumpy going
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  Speaker 2: to preseason camp and just you just have to embrace
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  Speaker 2: everything to Dave dorn is about. I'm always rooting for him.
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  Speaker 2: But I love Bailey obviously, with the skill set and
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  Speaker 2: the size and now the experience. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: I love the schedule. The schedule is like sneaky kind
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  Speaker 2: of tough, you know, you're not playing in brazila open
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  Speaker 2: the season. You still get Virginia up there in Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 2: That's a team that was a play away from being
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  Speaker 2: a playoff team last year. There are no slouts. You're
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  Speaker 2: at Vanderbilt week three. What are the Commodoores now that
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  Speaker 2: Diego Popy has gone. I still think that they're tough.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the road in Nashville and then Louisville at home.
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  Speaker 2: So those three in the first month of the year
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  Speaker 2: is just going to paint the picture for what this
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  Speaker 2: team is going to be all about. You lose, Hollywood smuthers,
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  Speaker 2: I hate that, but I know that this team is
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  Speaker 2: going to compete, and you know that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: play with a chip on their shoulder. And when you
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  Speaker 2: have a quarterback like CJ. Bailey that came back to Riley,
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  Speaker 2: you know, look, I think you have a chance. Are
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  Speaker 2: they contenders? Let me know after what happens in those
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  Speaker 2: three games. Let me know what happens after week zero.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't that game tell us everything about what the realistic
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  Speaker 2: expectations should be. I mean, I would give NC State
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  Speaker 2: the advantage of quarterback in that game, but what does
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  Speaker 2: that mean. I'm not really sure. I do love Dave.
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  Speaker 2: I do love that program. They're always a team that
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  Speaker 2: you know, I kind of root for behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: But that schedule in the first three weeks, those are
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  Speaker 2: three games that I look at right now when you
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  Speaker 2: say they're all kind of toss up affairs, that's what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like to me. So what happens against Louisville
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  Speaker 2: Vanderbilt in Virginia Road is going to tell us everything
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  Speaker 2: early for State.
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting that NC State's the more hyped up team
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  Speaker 3: roy but yet Virginia as of now still was five
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  Speaker 3: and a half paint favorites in that game out home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would lean their way. I just
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  Speaker 2: there's there's something about what's happened in the last year
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  Speaker 2: and a half with Tony Elliott's team. I know, Chandler
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  Speaker 2: Morris has gone, they got some key guys to replace,
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  Speaker 2: but last year they became a team until the ACC Championship,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't beat itself. Last year, they became a team
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  Speaker 2: that was the best version of themselves, and there was
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  Speaker 2: something cooking, you know. Unfortunately, after that terrible tragedy three
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  Speaker 2: years ago, it took Tony and it took that program
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  Speaker 2: in that athletic department, you know, a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: to turn it around. But since then, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: bring an Eli Holstein at quarterback this year. They got
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  Speaker 2: Bo Prabula in a quarterback this year. I think that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be very good on the offensive line,
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  Speaker 2: which is something nobody is talking about right now. I'll
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  Speaker 2: put some stock in what they have in the trenches
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  Speaker 2: there in Charlottesville. To me, playing in home, that's the
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  Speaker 2: reason why they're that slight favorite. That should be a
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  Speaker 2: great game. It's going to tell us a lot about
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  Speaker 2: the ACC.
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  Speaker 3: Really well, Roy, we've spent so much of the summer
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  Speaker 3: talking about Miami and the ACC and nationally rightfully so,
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  Speaker 3: but how good do you think that SMU team could be?
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  Speaker 3: Also with Kevin Jennings, huge.
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  Speaker 2: Fan of r Att Lashley. Now he's had to replace
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  Speaker 2: both coordinators, which is something I'm curious to see what
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  Speaker 2: happens now he's basically running the offense. Casey Woods goes
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  Speaker 2: over to Missouri State now is the head coach there
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  Speaker 2: for his first head coaching opportunity. But Kevin Jennings, guys
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  Speaker 2: makes throws that no other quarterback in college football can make. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the good news is if you're an SMU fan, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to make plays that keep you in the game
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, Wow, how did that happen. He's also
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  Speaker 2: been prone with that gunslinger mentality sometimes to turn it over,
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  Speaker 2: so that's got to be something I think that he
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  Speaker 2: keeps in check. And he's got to stay healthy. Like
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  Speaker 2: we've seen him at times, he'll still make the throws,
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  Speaker 2: but he can't scramble as well because of lower body jury.
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  Speaker 2: So they got to find a way to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that he stays healthy. If you tell me right now,
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  Speaker 2: he's healthy for twelve games. I've got SMU as the
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  Speaker 2: number two team in the ACC and play in Miami
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  Speaker 2: for the a SEC Championship there in Charlotte. So I
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  Speaker 2: very high on the Mustangs. They're well resourced, they're very
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  Speaker 2: well coached. I think Rhet Lashley is happy there in
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  Speaker 2: Highland Park in Dallas. Family's kind of growing up and
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  Speaker 2: playing high school football. But I'm still a little surprised
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  Speaker 2: that somebody has had come in there and try to
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  Speaker 2: extract him and get him maybe to a bigger spot.
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  Speaker 2: I would think that happens at some point before the
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  Speaker 2: end of this decade. But yeah, very high, very high
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  Speaker 2: on SMU right now?
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  Speaker 1: All right, last thing I want to ask you, should
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  Speaker 1: Tar Heel fans like And I hate this because I
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  Speaker 1: want all the local fan bases to be fired up
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  Speaker 1: and be positive, But like, should Tar Heel fans roy
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  Speaker 1: just want to take another horrible season? And therefore it
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  Speaker 1: leads to them being done with Bill Belichick?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what they should? They be that disillusion with
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  Speaker 1: Hoodie that they want to just literally have him fail
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? And I mean I can't believe I'm saying that,
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  Speaker 2: but if I'm a Carolina fan, that's exactly how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: How many more off the field distractions are we going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about? What about the play on the field?
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  Speaker 2: They did get better than the last season, guys, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's something that gets lost in the shuffle. But
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like everything they're trying to do, the
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  Speaker 2: wheels are turning, they're stuck in the mud, and they
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  Speaker 2: can't get out of their own way. It's on the
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  Speaker 2: field and all. But yet, answer your question, I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a great way to frame it. I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: could have coached like rhtt Lashley do with Chapel Hill?
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  Speaker 2: What could some of these other young offensive minds do
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  Speaker 2: coming in to just ignite a spark in that fan
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  Speaker 2: base in the program. Compared to what we've seen so far,
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  Speaker 2: there's amount of evidence to suggests exactly what you said
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  Speaker 2: is what is needed. Can they prove that that statement
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  Speaker 2: or that sentiment wrong. Can they go across upon and
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  Speaker 2: compete against TCU. That's how I'm looking at that game. Round.
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  Speaker 2: Just don't go over there and get embarrassed. Don't go
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  Speaker 2: over there and have the same thing that happened at
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  Speaker 2: Keenan Stadium last year to over the year happen again,
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  Speaker 2: have a chance to win in the fourth quarter and
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  Speaker 2: show some kind of progress and then maybe we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: a different tune. But the schedule TCU to start, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a very difficult challenge at Clemson, Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 2: comes to Chapel Hill, at pitt at Duke. You go
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  Speaker 2: on down the line, how many guaranteed wins are there?
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  Speaker 2: I see two? I see two. So you have to
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  Speaker 2: beat some teams you're not supposed to be to make
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  Speaker 2: yourself feel good about football again. It just guys, it
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  Speaker 2: looks bad and to me, it shows no signs of
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  Speaker 2: any kind of significant improvement. You're thinking about next year,
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  Speaker 2: What good young coach can we get that brings in
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  Speaker 2: his offensive system and quarterback and recruits in a way
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  Speaker 2: we go, because right now it just seems like it's
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  Speaker 2: stuck in the mud in Chapel.
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  Speaker 1: I know, if they're willing to invest the money they
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  Speaker 1: did in him and in Nio for him, for a
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  Speaker 1: coach with actual college success, you know, I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: see it. I'd love to see it, all right. Right, Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: great stuff. As I love Roy, you're enjoying this many
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  Speaker 1: you enjoyed that game cock stuff. You've got other teams
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  Speaker 1: you can ask about your dude Blueenot. You could go
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  Speaker 1: down all your teams. I got a lot of teams
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  Speaker 1: I can ask about.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be watching you and Brock Osweil or a drey
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  Speaker 3: Burris all season.
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  Speaker 2: Roy, Thank you, Row, appreciate you guys anytime. Man, Thank
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  Speaker 2: you man,