Latest / Small Ball with Kenny Beecham / Winners and Losers of the NBA Draft Lottery
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- 0:04SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of Smallball with Kenny Beecher.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: My goodness, my goodness, my goodness.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: What a week for me.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: What a week for me.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: And I haven't felt this level of hope as a fan of a sports team in quite some time.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: No, let me take that back.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: I haven't felt this level of hope for a Bulls team.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Because I felt this level of hope.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: I mean, we got the first overall pick here in Chicago.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: That's a couple years ago.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: We got Caleb, Caleb Williams, which is dope.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: But the moment that we found out the Bulls were drafting top four, my goodness, my heart dropped.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: But like this is the first time my heart dropped in a positive way.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: My I was just telling producer Greg, the lottery happened as I record this episode.
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: This lottery happened about eight hours ago.
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: I have not stopped thinking about the draft.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: We had two playoff games go down, and of course, I did my job and watched it, but the whole time in the back of my head, I'm thinking about scenarios of the draft.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to figure out who's gonna end up at four.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: I know it may seem very easy.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: It's gonna fall in one line, but I don't know, man.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: People get antsy.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: We got 44 days into the NBA draft.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: You're trying to tell me that's not gonna be some GM that's thinking about it over the next 44 days and overthinking to not take the guy that projected to take.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: It always happens.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: So that's what I've been thinking about.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: But we will, we will in today's episode talk about the two games that we just watched was the New York Knicks getting to the conference finals and the Minnesota Timbulls barely getting at it about a skin of their teeth against a nearly Wimbin Yama Lis San Antonio Spurs.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: Before we get into it, I want to remind you that me and my guys, the numbers on the board co-host, we're doing a live show June 24th, 2026, in Brooklyn, New York.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna be, I mean, I don't know if I'm gonna be in the building for the NBA draft.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna try my very best now that we got pick four, but I'm gonna be in New York for the draft.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: It was meant to be.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: It was meant for meant to be.
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: And I've said this before.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: I am so blessed and so lucky to be in the position that I'm in where a lot of the people that are in this year's draft have been viewers of mine or we've had conversations with.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: So some of the people projected in the top four, I've been sending DMs like, what you think about the city?
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: Because all of them are here for the draft lottery uh drawing.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, what you think about the city?
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: I got some responses.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: Some people are excited.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: Some people just gave me an emoji because they got it, they can't, they can't give me too much.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: They don't know what's gonna happen.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I'm really, really excited.
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: Okay, before we get into the lottery, winners and losers, let's talk about the playoffs because today the New York Knicks did it again.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: They have not lost an NBA game or they're six and oh uh in the last six, which is amazing.
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: This is the second time they've gone into a closeout game and put the smack down on.
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: We saw what they did to Atlanta, where at one point they were up, what, 60 to 19?
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: And in this game, it wasn't that big of a gap, 60 to 19, but like they put foot on next immediately.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: They ended this game shooting 56% from three.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: Deuce McBride, first quarter.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: He has scored like 12 straight points just by himself, shot after shot after shot.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: Oh, Jalen Brunson, uh, Mr.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: Top, one of the top American players in the league.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: He goes six May threes.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: Josh Hart, four may threes.
- 2:59SPEAKER_00: Landry Shaman off the bench over the last two games.
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: Landry Shaman is getting my MVP award because you you traditionally know, or you normally know what you're gonna get from a guy like Jalen Brunson.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: Jalen Brunson.
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: You you get an idea of what you're gonna get from Carl Anthony Towns through this run.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: But to have a guy like Landry come off the bench in the last game, play with so much energy and hit shots, and in this game replicate that again is great because they haven't had OG Ananobi over the last couple.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: And he was questionable for game three.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: They decided that we can win this without him, and they did.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: And in game four, they're like, okay, we up 3-0.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: No team has ever come back from 3-0 deficits.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: So even if we lose this one, we know that we can let uh Josh uh OG Ananobi just just relax, relax, relax.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: And they were able to close out the series without OG, who's been like, my goodness, all-star level all postseason long.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: This is weird.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: Y'all know I got a cousin Pierre, who is a Knicks fan, and of course, this team has been in the conference finals before.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: And maybe I felt this way last year, now that I think about it, because they were going to go against the Indiana Pacers.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: And even though the Pacers had just beat two higher seeds last season in the first two rounds, for whatever reason, I still don't look at them as a championship caliber team that can win against New York, and then they ended up doing that.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: But I say that to say, again, not trying to get too ahead of it, but my goodness, Knicks fans are probably on cloud nine.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: They still have to figure out who they're going against between Cleveland and Detroit.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: Cleveland looks great on the road every single game, and Detroit is rounding themselves out and looking like the team that won 60 games in the regular season last year.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: But I think Knicks fans look at both of those teams and be like, we we should be the favorite in both of those series.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: This Knicks team is, I don't know, man.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: It's one of them other cases where you look at it and say, dang, why do we really be caring about the regular season?
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: I mean, the biggest counterpoint to that is OKC has yet to lose a game in the postseason.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: And reminder, they started off the season 24-1.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: So the regular season kind of translated over there.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: But the Knicks, another one of them years where like they were good but didn't look too great.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: You know, they struggled to beat the top end teams in both conferences.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: Could they do it in the seven?
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, in the first round, take care of business.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Gets a very feisty Atlanta Hawks team.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: In the second round, though, the 76ers were a play-in team.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: That team just beat the team that was the defending, not the defending champion, the team that a lot of us believe to win the Eastern Conference this season.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: And I don't know what it says about Boston that they blew a 3-1 lead to the Sixer team that got swept by New York.
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: And let's be honest, with each other, it wasn't, this is gonna sound stupid.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a close sweep.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you do get a close sweep, man.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: It's happened before in history.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: This wasn't a close sweep.
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: So what that means about I wonder if Brad Stevens is in his office, it's like, dang, we actually further along than we than we thought.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: I wonder how you know the Orlando Magic feel.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: I mean, I know this is a 2-1 series, but after seeing Detroit take care of business in those first two versus Cavs, I bet they'd be like, hmm, maybe we're closer than we thought.
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: We just took this team to seven and they've been doing the thing.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: So shout out to the New York Knicks, man.
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: They're a super fun team to watch.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: And I I always be like fake hating on the Knicks because of like, that's just the dynamic of our podcast, right?
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: Numbers on the board.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: They hate on the Bulls, I hate on the Lakers, and I hate on the Knicks.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: I don't really hate on no team from Derek because Derek is a fan of every team.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Um, but truly, this is a fun team to root for for me personally.
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: I think I really became a big Carnthony Towns fan last season.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: Um, and the fact that he somehow has translated his game even differently in the postseason after him having times where just a month and a half ago, two months ago, he was saying he didn't understand his role, and they're using him as this jumbo playmaker, and he's making plays.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Lord knows he still has five fouls a game, but look past that.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: He's been super efficient in these games.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: And one of my favorite things about what Cat is doing, and I think winning helps us a ton.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: This guy is a guy that what was his career high in averages?
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Let me, I think I want to guess Carnthony Towns' best season, he was averaging 26 points per game.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: Let me let me double check this real quick.
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: His best season, he's averaging 26 and a half points per game, right?
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: In an alternate universe, Carnthany Towns is shooting seven shots in a closeout game, and he's pissed about it.
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: But no, that's not who Carlton Towns is right now.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: Again, winning helps all of this, but him shooting five or seven from the field in the win, it's pretty, pretty dope.
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: Again, foul trouble, you know all of this stuff.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: But that hasn't been the case.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, he's been having games just 10 shots, nine shots.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: It's like we win, and I'm shooting hell efficiently.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: I think the defense from Carthen Towns has been better, again, outside of all of the fouling.
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, man.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: I I think the Knicks is kind of good.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: Now, on the other side, this definitely felt like, even though they were in Philadelphia, it felt like a New York Knicks home game.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: And I I've I've taken the train ride between New York and Philly twice.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: So I know how easy it is for New Yorkers to end up in Philadelphia for a road game.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think Tarys Maxie's response to this is probably the best one you can get.
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: Basically saying that it sucks that it turned into a Knicks home game, but it doesn't happen if we win basketball games, and they weren't able to do that in the series.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: But I've been to a game like this before where his Lakers saw it's a little bit different, and the Bulls were bad.
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: Where this was back when I was a season ticket holder, back when, my goodness, it was Chris Don and Larry Market and the Wendell Carter.
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: We weren't playing for anything, we played for ping-pong balls, and they never bounced in our direction until this to today.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: And I took my boy Mike to go see his Lakers, season ticket holder, two tickets, beautiful view of the court.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: And we're a bad basketball team.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: And uh oh, LeBron James is in town.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: And I felt so embarrassed as a Bulls fan to listen to the crowd chant MVP for LeBron James.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: So I can't imagine what it feels like as the player that's trying to represent the city to make the pla the fans happy when you do have a time where the Knicks are up by 30 and they're chanting, let's go, Knicks.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: And again, the remedy, like like Tyrese Maxie said, the remedy to all of this is go out there and you win basketball games, and then you know Knicks fans are gonna be cheering if they lose in ball games.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: But this does, you know, find it, find me in a difficult spot because in the post-game interview, this is gonna be a talking point, I'm assuming, for a lot of uh talk show, you know, TV shows tomorrow when it comes to the NBA.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: Joel Embiid said that this season, though they got swept, was a success for him.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: And I can understand how for some fans of the 76, or even fans outside of 76 of fandom, will look at that and say that's a loser mindset.
- 9:27SPEAKER_00: Because again, they just got swept in the second round and he's sitting there saying this is a win.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: But I again I've said it when they won their series versus the Boston Celtics.
- 9:35SPEAKER_00: I've grown to just be a bigger Joel L fan.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: And when he talks about how, you know, the doctors were telling him they won't, they don't know if he was going to be able to play at all this season.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: And for him to give us, I don't remember how many games, but however many games, and to win a first-round series where they were the heavy underdog.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: Again, it's not a conference finals appearance, something that has eluded him his entire NBA career.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: And yes, they did get swept, and on their home court, they lost by an average margin of whoa, a lot of points.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: But I can understand taking the little wins where you can.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: And all Jordan Bede has wanted is a healthy postseason run.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: And this is the closest we got to it.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't even a healthy postseason run because he missed multiple games throughout the run.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: But for him as a win.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: I don't know what happens next for the 76ers, but I'm really intrigued to see what will.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: When we come back, we'll talk about the Minnesota Timbulls winning their game to tie a series 2-2.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: 114-109 is the final score as the Wolves protect home court.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: And now we got a good old-fashioned best of three with the San Antonio Spurs having home court in two out of those three games.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: Of course, the big talker point is going to be Victor Wimbanyama after just 12 minutes played in this game.
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: He loads up the nastiest elbow we've seen since Ron Ortez.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: And it hits Nas Ree square in the throw area.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: And shout out to Nas for being a goddamn warrior because there's no way that I'm getting up from that as quick as he did.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Or maybe ever.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I may never, I've maybe been still there.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: They may have to stretch me out.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: Um, and it it was I was hoping that maybe for his sake and the fans' sake that he played along with it for a little bit longer, stayed on that floor, because then you really think about if you if you the uh the referee staff, hmm, Nasri do like getting a lot of pain.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: Ultimately, he gets ejected.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: And the clip that is going viral is Women Yama hearing that is a flagrant too.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: And he asks Harrison Barnes what that means.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: Harrison Barnes whispers, you're ejected.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: He says, I'm ejected.
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: Um, and he is ejected at the end of the day.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: They lose this game.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: And only thing you can really say is that, man, this is a winnable game if you are a team that has Women Yama.
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: And you got to give a lot of credit to the Spurs because they fought the ass off.
- 11:40SPEAKER_00: Um, Stefan Castle was great.
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: Devin Vassale was great.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: There was a couple out-of-bounds plays with Devin Vassale for whatever reason as one of the sole shooters that was in these lineups, ended up wide open in the corner, and he may want miss one, but that would have been like a huge swing, and this was so sad to Devin Vassale.
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: And they fought hard.
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: You know, they had to go small in this one while the Timberwolves went with their double bigs lineups and like, okay, and then ultimately they end up giving up a couple offensive rebounds.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: Anthony Edwards is a madman.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get to him in a second.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: But I don't know, again, how the series will unfold for these next three games.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: But if this is the turning point, because we've seen Minnesota do this, right?
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: We've seen Minnesota go in and take a game that they had no business taking if everything was even killed.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: And if this is the turn of point, you look back and say, man, Wimby, bad elbow throw.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what will happen after this when it comes to Women Yama.
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: Uh, was it as vicious as Ron's?
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: No, but I could I could see something potentially happening from the NBA side.
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: Only time will tell.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: And if that happens, my goodness.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: Dylan Harper, great in this one as well.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: Um, downhill killers, time and time again, but just didn't have enough to get them over the hump.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: De'Aaron Fox tried to take them home.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: The De'Aaron Fox experience has been more down than up in this postseason.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: He did have the one game against the Trailblazers, which I think it was game three, that it was no Wimedyama, where in the third quarter he completely takes over and he looks like the guy that you paid however many million dollars to.
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: And that's what he tried to do that.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: He had an early shot clock, long three-pointer that missed a ton.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, man, in this game, where you're at this point one of six from three, I don't know if that's a shot I really want to see you take.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a good look, and they end up losing.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Anthony Edwards is absolutely ridiculous, though.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: We always make jokes about, you know, Anthony Edwards, superhero, made of vibranium, all of this stuff.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: They said before this series they didn't know if Ant was going to play at all.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: He played game one on a minutes restriction.
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: They won that game.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: He didn't play great.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: Game two, same thing.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: Didn't play the greatest of games, they end up losing.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: Oh, game one, he gave us the fourth quarter.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: We had 11 out of 18.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: Um, but second game didn't really give them much, they lose that.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: The fact that in game four, after them questioning whether or not he will be able to play at all, in game four, he plays 40 minutes.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: Again, five, six days ago, he was on a 25-minute minutes restriction.
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: He played 40 and he was gassed down the stretch.
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: You saw it.
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: He was absolutely gassed down the stretch.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: But he had a couple shots.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, when he got it going and he's high and he's yelling at the crowd, 16 points in the fourth quarter.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: He even tapped Mitch Johnson on the stomach after hitting the big time shot in front of their bench.
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: That is why he is one of the best players in the world, man.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: Because again, they were on the doorstep, talking about the Spurs, on the doorstep of taking this game and Wolves being down 3-1.
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: And Ant said, No, I am the best player on the floor by a wide margin.
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna show you, show you that.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: There was one point in the uh in the broadcast where uh Tariko, I think it was Tariko, said, like, uh Julius Randle has done nothing this game.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: And I just always think that's funny when uh when the announcers say something like that.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: Usually they try to, you know, make it seem a little bit better.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Oh, he's struggling to find himself.
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: Oh, he needs to get going.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: Tariko straight up said he has done nothing in this game.
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dang, that's a bit harsh.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: But in this one, he did find Rudy Gobert for a huge dunk on a on a roll there.
- 14:59SPEAKER_00: I think Rudy Gobert also had a uh M1 in the fourth quarter, huge win.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: And then they go back to San Antonio for game number five on what day would that be?
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: Tuesday, I guess.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: Are y'all scared?
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of scared that we narrow down how many games because tomorrow we got two games slate.
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about that next um when we get back from the next break.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: But then Tuesday we will have one game because the next series is over.
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: We're about to get to the point we're having one game a day.
- 15:27SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be a time where there's no game zone.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: We could just gonna be a gap between this game and that.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: Man, shout out to the Wolves.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: I'm happy that this is turned into a series.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: I do truly believe that the Spurs are the more talented team, right?
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: You saw even saw that today with no Women Yama with the fight and the defensive effort that you see from them.
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: But sometimes the talent don't end up winning the series.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: Sometimes there's some crazy circumstances where the will is the thing that gets you over the hump.
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: And I just feel like through the first series, the Timberwolves to show that they have the most will of any team in the postseason.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: All right, that was fun.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: But now let's get to the lottery, man.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: Are y'all ready for Kenny Beecham, the draft expert?
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: If for y'all audio listeners, I'm winking because I'm the exact opposite of that.
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: To talk about the NBA draft and talk about the NBA lottery and all the different things attached to it.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: Because my goodness, the anxiety level I had leading up to this was crazy.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: I jokingly said that morning, I told my mom, hey, there's something big happening in the NBA right now.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Because she doesn't follow the NBA hell.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: She only sees clips that end up on Instagram.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Um, and she'll call me and be like, Who said that about you?
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about it, mom.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: The internet took care of it.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Um, so I told her, hey, it's something is something big happened in the NBA today.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: And whether or not you see me today is depending on that.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: I was joking, obviously.
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: I was going to see my mom regardless on Mother's Day, but I was really, really anxious, y'all.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: I was really, really anxious.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: You know, I would have been completely okay with the Bulls stand at number nine.
- 16:53SPEAKER_00: I had been doing my scouting for pick nine, so I was gonna be mad.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: What would have, would, what would have got me was if they ended up at pick 10.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: Because if they ended up at pick 10, some of the teams that I definitely didn't want to see jump up in the lottery would have jumped up.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: If we ended up in pick 10, that mean either, either like OKC jumped up to the top four or the golden say word, sorry, Greg, jumped up into the top four.
- 17:13SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to see that.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: So the fact that we were the team to jump is crazy.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: For months straight on the pod, numbers on the board, I was making pleas to Adam Silver that like, man, we know you're not the type to rig the lottery, but if you were, this is the year and in favor of the Chicago Bulls.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: And we know that this lottery is not rigged.
- 17:33SPEAKER_00: You want to know why?
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: Because Adam Silver has gone all year long talking about how trash tankin is for the league and how much he hates it.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: So much so that he may implement a rule change that will change the NBA for the next five years.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: He is so ready to get rid of tanking.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: But the two teams that ended up at the top were the teams that tank the most.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: The Wizards was Tyler Alexar, year two player, who was really good this season.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: That ankle looking a little bit more bruised than we it should, so you should sit out in this one.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: Utah Jazz was like, Larry Margaret, are you cool and all, but set this one out.
- 18:04SPEAKER_00: Maybe not as egregious as to watch the Wizards, but that lets you know it's not rigged.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: The two teams that Adam Silver's trying to prevent from winning the lottery ended up winning the lottery.
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: Memphis is in that too.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: The NBA lottery order is Wizards, Jazz, Grizzlies, Bulls, Clippers.
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: My goodness, we talk about that.
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: Nets, Kings, Hawks, Mavericks, Bucks, Warriors, Thunder, Heat, and Hornets.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: In that exact order.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: I again feel like what you're gonna see on the internet over the next month or so is people saying the draft should go like this AJ Devonta one, Darren Peterson two, Cam Boozer three, and Caleb Wilson four.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: That is the top four, and people believe that will be the order.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: And I think people believe that was gonna be the order regardless of who ended up at what spot.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: But I do think that, you know, Darren Peterson to Utah is a near-perfect fit.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: I do believe that AJ DeBonsa to Washington is a really good fit as well.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: Maybe not as perfect as Darren Peterson to Utah.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: The Grizzlies are the team that scare me the most, the team with the most variety, because they're not like the Jazz or the Wizards who made big acquisitions at this year's deadline, and they're like, this is our last year tanking.
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: This might be their first year, really.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: Not I won't use the word tanking, but first year of their retooling slash resetting.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: And we don't know what will happen with John Moran.
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: I read something this morning that they're still looking to maybe potentially move him and leave them with the core of whoever they drafted number three, Zach Edy, um, Jalen Wells, Cedric Cowers, so on and so forth.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: I think, again, as somebody that doesn't watch a ton of college basketball, but watch the okay amount.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: I think that Cam Boozer is a perfect fit for them at number number three.
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: I think him and Zach Edy, they both were, here we go, advanced stats darlings in college.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: And I think some of that can translate to the NBA.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: But I would not be surprised if they, I wouldn't even use the word surprise, but I would not be surprised if they came out there and said, hey, Caleb Wilson is our guy at number three.
- 20:12SPEAKER_00: And that shakes some things up a little bit because in my mind, we would end up with Caleb Wilson here in Chicago.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: But only time will tell.
- 20:18SPEAKER_00: Only time will tell.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: The NBA is in a very interesting spot outside of the top four.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: Man, the Pacers.
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: Man, man, the Pacers.
- 20:27SPEAKER_00: When we get back, we'll talk about them and the risks they took and why Kevin Pritchard is apologizing to people on Twitter about it.
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: Before we get back into talking about the NBA lottery, I want to say thank you to our partners over at DraftKings.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: You've been all about DraftKings pick six by now, where you can pick more or less in different players' stats for the upcoming games.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: The entirety of the postseason, I've been looking at these games, looking at the slate, looking for some of my favorite players, looking at what the stat is, points, rebounds, assists, so on and so forth.
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: And asking myself, do I trust that this player will have more or less than the projected number?
- 21:02SPEAKER_00: Put them into a pick set and I sit back, relax to see if I made the right decision.
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: As always, I'm gonna remind you to play responsibly as I record this episode on Sunday night at 10 o'clock Central Time.
- 21:12SPEAKER_00: I don't have the exact lines on pick six for the games that we have on Monday night.
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: But again, I'm gonna tell you my prop my thought process going into these games.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: The first game we have is at 8 o'clock Eastern Time.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: It is here on Peacock slash NBC.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: It is the one-seeded Detroit Pistons into Cleveland for game four.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: As y'all saw, Cleveland Cavaliers took care of business.
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: Um, James Harden has his best quarter of the entire playoffs in the fourth, where he had a three that may should have may have should have been a four point play, a couple floaters down a stretch.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: The crowd was going crazy.
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: Very electric game there for big game James.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: Uh, first time we can call him that his entire postseason.
- 21:50SPEAKER_00: So we're trying to see if the Cleveland Cavaliers can continue to hold down their home court fort as they go against the Pistons, who still have Kay Cunningham doing ridiculous stuff.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Down the stretch of this game.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to remember.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: I didn't take notes in this game, but I'm trying to remember, and if I remember correctly, there were a couple super bonehead turnovers by K down the stretch, and that's like the downside of the Kay Cunningham experience at times, where you know you need to settle things down, so on and so forth.
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: But instead of getting or making the right play, he may overestimate the length of a pass or what the help man would do on a fake entry, and that ends up being a turnover.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: And I remember I think it was the right wing he tried to pass the ball into a post-touch and ended up being a turnover with just a minute left.
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: And ah, that's the game.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: Anyway, going into this game, what I'm looking at is Donovan Mitchell.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: Donovan Mitchell has been a night and day player when it comes from home games and away games.
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: I guess his whole team has, but specifically Donovan Mitchell ended up at 35 and 10 in the last game, which is really great because he hadn't hit 30 since maybe the second game of the first round versus the Toronto Raptors.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at his points and I'm contemplating putting that to my pick set and going more on it.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: Again, time will tell on whether or not I decide to do that, depending on what the number is.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: But I do like that.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: I do like Evan Mobley on the rebounds.
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: I know, I know he is also hit or miss when it comes to this.
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: But sometimes I watch, and maybe this is not a game, but sometimes you watch it be like, man, Jared Allen just is not impacting the game as much as you want him to.
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: I thought that he was pretty good in the last game for what it's worth.
- 23:21SPEAKER_00: But Evan Mobley had a game where he had one rebound just two games ago.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: And I think that that is something in the back of his head.
- 23:26SPEAKER_00: And I think he will try to get after those boards.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: Just last game, he had eight.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: Those were the two things I'm looking for.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: And when it comes to the Detroit Pistons side, it is kind of a mixed bag.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: I think Tobias Harris has had seven, right?
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: Seven straight games where he's had 20 plus points, which is pretty solid.
- 23:41SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming his line on pick six is going to be continue to move as he continues to do what he's doing.
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: Maybe looking at Kay Cunningham assists is this the easiest part.
- 23:51SPEAKER_00: I know one guy I'm fading, that would be Jalen Duran.
- 23:54SPEAKER_00: Um the one thing you could have trusted him with was those rebounds in this last game, only four.
- 23:59SPEAKER_00: I think he's averaging 10 and 9 the entire playoffs.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: Not the greatest time.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: So maybe Cade's assists, but time will tell.
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: Then we have on Amazon, or I'm sorry, Prime Video, we have the Thunder trying to close out their series versus the Lakers.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: This was a weird watch for the last game.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: The Lakers just don't have enough talent.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: I think that's just what it boils down to at the end of the day, with it just being Braun Rui and Austin Reeves in a lot of these times.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: And I guess Luke Kennard had his first good game since game two of the first round.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: They just don't have enough talent to really compete with OKC and all the thousands of wings and guards they could throw on some of your best players.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: So when I look at this, I'm still trusting DeAndre Aiden's rebounds, even if, even if he struggled with it last game, he had a couple possessions where OKC straight up got two to three possessions because of the offensive glass.
- 24:49SPEAKER_00: But I think that in this closeout game, potentially, I think that DeAndre Aiden will have that battery back a little bit, maybe get a couple more offensive rebounds, a couple more defensive rebounds.
- 24:58SPEAKER_00: I'll look at that.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: And then when it comes to OKC, they're so much of a mixed bag.
- 25:02SPEAKER_00: The only guy that I feel like pretty decent about right now, I mean, I feel decent about everybody, but the way Chet has been playing as of recent, my goodness, Chet could do no wrong with either side of the floor.
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: So I look at his points, man.
- 25:13SPEAKER_00: I look at Chet Hongers' points.
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: And if it's in the realm of like, I don't know, 16 and a half, 17 and a half, I might look that direction.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: And we'll see if OKC close this series out or the Lakers can get one more game to, I won't even use the word make it interesting, because you know.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: Wait, what if the Lakers go from the team that last series look like they may have blown a 3-0 lead to the team coming back from down 3-0?
- 25:37SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: All right, when we come back, we get into the draft lottery a little bit more.
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- 26:08SPEAKER_00: I've been asked a thousand times, whether it be through text or whether it be on the internet.
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: Shout out to y'all for showing support.
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: Who do you want to be there F for?
- 26:17SPEAKER_00: And I guess I don't have a direct answer with 43 days until the draft.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: But I did, even before the Bulls moved up, I really did like Caleb Wilson as a prospect.
- 26:28SPEAKER_00: And the fact that there's a possibility he ends up in my city or my team is pretty dope.
- 26:32SPEAKER_00: Um, y'all know me.
- 26:33SPEAKER_00: I love long defensive players.
- 26:35SPEAKER_00: He is maybe the most athletic wing slash big slash, whatever you want to classify him as in the entire draft.
- 26:42SPEAKER_00: He runs the break like a gazelle.
- 26:44SPEAKER_00: You know, um, from what I've read and seen some of the defensive holes in his game, I feel like can just be with experience be filled up.
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: And I just think he's a dog, just straight up a dog.
- 26:56SPEAKER_00: I was really sad that we didn't get to see him an attorney.
- 26:59SPEAKER_00: But um I do believe AJ and DP are going one-two in some order.
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: I guess the Wizards GM came out and said that just because we got this pick, this is not, you know, saying that we're we're gonna use it.
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: I know it just sounds like a leverage play to maybe get seven first-round picks for somebody that really won't AJ, but like I think that AJ and DP goes one-two.
- 27:18SPEAKER_00: So it's a matter of will the Grizzlies select Cam or will they select Caleb.
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: And I think that I don't, I don't know their general manager as as closely as some other people do, right?
- 27:30SPEAKER_00: Especially I was on the Memphis Grizzlies subreddit because I'm trying to figure out what the fans want.
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: I feel like I saw 50-50 split in that subreddit.
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: I saw somebody have a button that says draft boozer or else or something along those lines.
- 27:41SPEAKER_00: And they were saying that that is the type of pick that their front office has done over the last couple seasons.
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: But in my mind, I can see them going with the Gazelle, the hella athletic guy and Caleb Wilson.
- 27:51SPEAKER_00: Either way, I think I think I saw a tweet that was like on one side, if you go to the left path, you got treasure.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: And if you go to the right path, you have treasure.
- 28:00SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's the position I'm in as a Bulls fan, whether it is Cam Boozer or Caleb Wilson, I'm gonna walk out of there saying, let's let's go.
- 28:07SPEAKER_00: We did it.
- 28:08SPEAKER_00: You're like, I think that both of those guys have potential to be ridiculously talented in the league.
- 28:12SPEAKER_00: And I don't think we can really lose in that spot.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: And the last time we had top four pick, I didn't feel that same way.
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: So it's dope.
- 28:20SPEAKER_00: The biggest loser of the draft, or yeah, 100% the biggest loser, is the Indiana Pacers.
- 28:25SPEAKER_00: At the deadline, the Indiana Pacers traded their pick, top four protected, to the Clippers in exchange for Big Zoo.
- 28:32SPEAKER_00: Of course, there's more stuff in the trade trade, like Ijax going to the Clippers and Ben McMathra going to the Clippers.
- 28:37SPEAKER_00: We'll see if Ben Mathra stays on the Clippers past this uh offseason because he's restricted.
- 28:42SPEAKER_00: And they knew that they were taking a gamble.
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: They thought that it was going to fall in their direction.
- 28:48SPEAKER_00: And I vividly remember either whether it was this show, and then I echoed that on my other shows.
- 28:53SPEAKER_00: Though I do really like Zoo, and Zoo before last season was coming off an all-defensive appearance, he was all defensive.
- 28:59SPEAKER_00: Second team, the Clippers surprised the league and were a 51 team.
- 29:02SPEAKER_00: He was phenomenal.
- 29:04SPEAKER_00: But I remember vividly saying that I love Zoo, but having that pick come down to a coin flip is really scary.
- 29:14SPEAKER_00: And he had a 52% chance of keeping that pick, and obviously ended up in that 48% pool.
- 29:20SPEAKER_00: And now you give it the fifth overall pick.
- 29:22SPEAKER_00: And the one thing I'll be afraid of, because I think Indiana is going to be great regardless, right?
- 29:27SPEAKER_00: They're going to be right back as one of the contenders in the Eastern Conference next season.
- 29:30SPEAKER_00: I have no ifs, ands, or buts about that.
- 29:32SPEAKER_00: No doubt.
- 29:32SPEAKER_00: But one thing that I am afraid of, even though we have only had a split little piece of him with the Pacers before he got shut down because of injury as well, the one thing that would scare me the most, and hopefully this does not happen for the Indiana Pacers, is that that 2024-2025 season, we hope that that wasn't the anomaly year.
- 29:50SPEAKER_00: Because it's not like Zoo has been around for four seasons.
- 29:53SPEAKER_00: Like Zoo has had, what, what is his year?
- 29:55SPEAKER_00: I think he was drafted.
- 29:57SPEAKER_00: Oh, Zoo was there when when um LeBron first got there, right?
- 30:01SPEAKER_00: So this is year, this is year 10 for Zoo?
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: Bro, no way.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: I mean, yes, yes.
- 30:08SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's crazy.
- 30:10SPEAKER_00: That just blew my mind.
- 30:13SPEAKER_00: That just blew that just blew my mind.
- 30:15SPEAKER_00: Um I don't even know where I was going with that.
- 30:20SPEAKER_00: I think his, yeah, so he is still here when when Braun ends up on the team.
- 30:24SPEAKER_00: Um, year 15 Braun comes.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: And yeah, he was in the league at for three years into that point.
- 30:29SPEAKER_00: So he's 10 years into his career, which means that we have eight years of him before that.
- 30:35SPEAKER_00: And I think there is a world where his 2024-2025 season is the best year of his career.
- 30:42SPEAKER_00: And then you ask yourself, again, I was asking this in in real time is a is a fifth to tenth pick worth a center that is very good, but maybe not all-star level.
- 30:55SPEAKER_00: And time will tell, right?
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: Who knows who's gonna end up at five?
- 30:58SPEAKER_00: But we know that this is one of the deeper drafts.
- 31:02SPEAKER_00: And they don't have that pick.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: The Clippers walk out, I think is the biggest winner outside, of course, like the Wizards, right?
- 31:08SPEAKER_00: But the biggest winner because they sold on the guy at a at an extreme premium, right?
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: Kevin Pritchard, who's in charge of making the decisions over there, went onto Twitter to say, I am sorry.
- 31:20SPEAKER_00: And I had no idea, like I saw that I was this is by the time I got to my mom's house.
- 31:24SPEAKER_00: Again, I did go visit my duce.
- 31:26SPEAKER_00: I but I'm just I was just surprised to see him publicly say that.
- 31:31SPEAKER_00: And I get I appreciate it, I guess, at the end of the day.
- 31:33SPEAKER_00: How many people, because he also is not saying that he made a mistake, you know what I mean?
- 31:38SPEAKER_00: I think those those things can be be in the same thing.
- 31:41SPEAKER_00: Um, how many how many people can say that their front office is candid enough with their audience to say, yeah, we made a mistake?
- 31:49SPEAKER_00: Again, well, he's not even saying we made a mistake.
- 31:51SPEAKER_00: We we made a risky move and it didn't pan out, and I apologize.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: Because in the world where they have, I don't know, Halliburton, Peterson, I guess, Niesmith, Siakamizo, my goodness, that team is gonna run the East.
- 32:05SPEAKER_00: It's not the case.
- 32:06SPEAKER_00: So biggest loser.
- 32:08SPEAKER_00: The Clippers walk in, and I don't know how the Clippers are gonna tackle this.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: As you know, they traded for D'Aries Garland, trading away James Harden, which also looks like a huge win right now.
- 32:16SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they'd be a team that would try to draft for fit outside of like best player available.
- 32:22SPEAKER_00: Y'all know this is a guard-heavy portion of the draft.
- 32:25SPEAKER_00: You know, the top four have three wings slash bigs, and then after that it's like Keen Waggler, uh Michael Brown, Kingston Flemings, and you know, it's just a bunch of guards, Darius Acuff, even you know, Braden Burris, just a ton of guards.
- 32:40SPEAKER_00: And I wonder if they would just say, we don't really mind having Acuff or Flemings here with Darius Garland, even if if the fit is not right, if we believe those are the best guys available, are we going that route?
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: Or would they go the route of like, I don't know, Keenan Ward was kind of a combo.
- 32:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess that's a possibility as well.
- 33:01SPEAKER_00: But they got a lot of options.
- 33:03SPEAKER_00: The Brooklyn Nets dropped three spots.
- 33:08SPEAKER_00: That's tough.
- 33:09SPEAKER_00: They have five first-round picks in a draft that was widely considered the worst draft in recent history.
- 33:14SPEAKER_00: And though a few of those five first-round picks are decent enough to be excited about, this was the year that you were hoping, because it's the last year that you have your own first-round pick, that you were going to get lottery luck.
- 33:28SPEAKER_00: Not the case.
- 33:29SPEAKER_00: You can also draft a stud at six, but man, again, those first three guys, first four guys feel like can't miss prospects.
- 33:35SPEAKER_00: Nobody really is.
- 33:36SPEAKER_00: One of those guys may not hit at all.
- 33:38SPEAKER_00: But it felt like a can't miss opportunity, and they're in the spot where they're going to have to take one of them guards.
- 33:43SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily, even though four out of the players they drafted last season were guards.
- 33:47SPEAKER_00: Um, but they dropped.
- 33:50SPEAKER_00: And all season long, when I saw the Brooklyn Knights, they were like, hey, we good.
- 33:55SPEAKER_00: We good.
- 33:55SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get some luck.
- 33:56SPEAKER_00: We finally get some luck, and that didn't happen.
- 33:58SPEAKER_00: The Sacramento Kings dropped two spots.
- 34:00SPEAKER_00: I have nothing to say to Kings fans, man.
- 34:02SPEAKER_00: Talk about the the most depleted fan base in all of basketball.
- 34:10SPEAKER_00: They have all of the players in the NBA that nobody wants.
- 34:13SPEAKER_00: And not saying that they're bad players, but like Sabonis, DeMar, Zach, a really, really expensive Keegan Murray.
- 34:21SPEAKER_00: They have all of these guys that nobody wants.
- 34:23SPEAKER_00: And then, like, this is our year.
- 34:25SPEAKER_00: You know, we tried to compete NBA, we tried to put together a roster.
- 34:28SPEAKER_00: It's not a competent one, but we tried just give us a little bit of hope.
- 34:31SPEAKER_00: Give us a little bit.
- 34:32SPEAKER_00: No, they drop all the way to seven.
- 34:36SPEAKER_00: And I I don't know.
- 34:38SPEAKER_00: I just I just feel bad for the fans.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: Again, this is one of those things where people are like, oh, so-and-so team don't deserve this because of this.
- 34:44SPEAKER_00: Man, I'm thinking about the fans before I think about what the hell the ownership has done.
- 34:48SPEAKER_00: Ownership has been bad, but the fans have been electric, and I hope that they still end up with one of the top guys.
- 34:53SPEAKER_00: Because I just I feel bad.
- 34:55SPEAKER_00: And I'm not acting like the Bulls are in a much better place as far as the organization goes, but damn it, we got at least we got the luck.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: They did it.
- 35:04SPEAKER_00: When we come back, we'll talk about the rest of the NBA draft lottery.
- 35:14SPEAKER_00: Draft night 2025.
- 35:17SPEAKER_00: Joe Dumars and the Pelicans decide to trade up 10 spots and give up an unprotected first-round pick to the Atlanta Hawks.
- 35:24SPEAKER_00: That pick was the best of the Pelicans, of the Milwaukee Bucks, both teams who were ended up ended up in the lottery this season.
- 35:32SPEAKER_00: But instead of that pick turning into a potentially top four pick, it falls to number eight.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: And I bet Joe Dumas is in his office, like I told y'all.
- 35:40SPEAKER_00: Now it really depends on you know, would you prefer the eighth best prospect in this draft or Dare Queen?
- 35:45SPEAKER_00: Uh it's the eye to beholder type of thing.
- 35:48SPEAKER_00: But it didn't end up, as of today, it doesn't end up looking as bad as it once did.
- 35:52SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know if y'all remember, about a month and a half into the season, the Pelicans were the worst team in the league.
- 35:57SPEAKER_00: They were at the bottom of the West.
- 35:59SPEAKER_00: They were at the bottom of a conference that had the Utah Jazz in it, you know, like in the Sacramento Kings, they were at the bottom.
- 36:05SPEAKER_00: In the second half of the year, there was like a month where they were about 500, and they end up saving it where they're not giving up a top five pick.
- 36:11SPEAKER_00: Instead, it ends up being number eight.
- 36:12SPEAKER_00: So Atlanta actually is probably really pissed.
- 36:14SPEAKER_00: I think they're one of the losers, too.
- 36:16SPEAKER_00: Not in the same sense that the Pacers are, because at eight, you could still get somebody great.
- 36:21SPEAKER_00: But they had the highest odds of all teams to end up in the top four because they had two different teams in the lottery competing to jump up.
- 36:28SPEAKER_00: If the Bucs would have jumped up in this year's lottery, that pick would have gone to Atlanta.
- 36:32SPEAKER_00: If the Pelicans would have jumped up in this lottery, that pick would have gone to the Atlanta.
- 36:36SPEAKER_00: But neither team jump.
- 36:37SPEAKER_00: Actually, the Pelicans drop and the Bucs stay the same, so they end up with the eighth pick instead of a pick that had the highest chance to jump up to the top four.
- 36:45unknown: Whew.
- 36:47SPEAKER_00: Then we have the Dallas Mavericks who drop one spot.
- 36:50SPEAKER_00: I saw Michael Brown say that uh Dallas is his favorite city in the whole world.
- 36:55SPEAKER_00: We're already seeing it just the jostling to try to find your draft spot.
- 36:59SPEAKER_00: I always think about that too before we get to picks 10 through 14.
- 37:03SPEAKER_00: They do invite a lot of the top projected players to the lottery.
- 37:07SPEAKER_00: And they, of course, panned to AJ DeBonsa after we found out that the Wizards were the winner.
- 37:11SPEAKER_00: He didn't react, which is normal, by the way.
- 37:13SPEAKER_00: I saw people saying, like, oh, he don't look happy.
- 37:15SPEAKER_00: Maybe he's not happy, but like that's just the they get they get told not to react.
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: Like Cooper Flag didn't react last year, neither.
- 37:21SPEAKER_00: The year before that, they they you don't react.
- 37:23SPEAKER_00: Oh, I think Wimby reacted.
- 37:26SPEAKER_00: I think um Wimby reacted to the Rockets not getting him.
- 37:33SPEAKER_00: Am I remembering that right?
- 37:34SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I'm gonna look it up.
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: Victor Wimanyama Rockets draft.
- 37:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they ended up being the fourth pick in that year's draft, and they cut over to Wimby.
- 37:43SPEAKER_00: He like did a little smile.
- 37:45SPEAKER_00: Uh so yeah, I mean, maybe that happens occasionally, but for the most part, the players don't really react to these types of things.
- 37:52SPEAKER_00: So AJ might be super happy to be a Washington Wizard or conspiracy is coming out.
- 37:59SPEAKER_00: Utah's a second pick.
- 38:02SPEAKER_00: The guys that own what the guy that owns the Utah Jazz had the most generic name in history, and still it's like John Smith or something.
- 38:10SPEAKER_00: He is also one of the biggest funders of BYU basketball.
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: Um, so he was one pick away from Ryan Smith.
- 38:17SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 38:18SPEAKER_00: Not John Smith, Ryan Smith.
- 38:20SPEAKER_00: He, I guess, is a guy that's donating to the Utah Jazz to get all the NIO money to get AJ DeBanta to you know BYU.
- 38:28SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: Maybe AJ's like, I like, I like this little place over here.
- 38:32SPEAKER_00: I like the owner over here.
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm gonna try to pull Alex Saur until the first overall pick team don't draft me.
- 38:37SPEAKER_00: But I do wonder, like, okay, I'm I'm Cam Boozer.
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: I'm a project the top four pick.
- 38:42SPEAKER_00: I don't know where in the top four.
- 38:44SPEAKER_00: How is he sleeping tonight?
- 38:46SPEAKER_00: Is he sleeping thinking, I'm gonna go, I'm I'm a Grizzly, I'm gonna be a Grizzly.
- 38:50SPEAKER_00: Is he sleeping, or I'm gonna work my way up in these workouts, which they don't really do if you're a top guy?
- 38:54SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna work my way up and I'm gonna end up, I'm gonna play for the Jazz.
- 38:57SPEAKER_00: My dad played for the Jazz.
- 38:58SPEAKER_00: Or is he saying, like, my dad played for the Bulls?
- 39:00SPEAKER_00: I hope, oh, I hope I fall to four, even though that's gonna cost me like a million and a half dollars on my rookie scale deal.
- 39:07SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 39:07SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's maybe that's some DMs I should be sending these players.
- 39:10SPEAKER_00: How do you feel about the lottery, bro?
- 39:12SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's probably easier for those top four guys because they know that they have a four-team window.
- 39:16SPEAKER_00: And honestly speaking, AJ's going one.
- 39:19SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
- 39:20SPEAKER_00: I know the what the what the guy said, he's going one.
- 39:22SPEAKER_00: So it's more about like Darren Peterson and them.
- 39:24SPEAKER_00: They have a three-team window where like if you're a I don't know, a Kingston Flemings, you could go five, you could go all the way down to nine, I guess.
- 39:33SPEAKER_00: I doubt it.
- 39:34SPEAKER_00: But like there's a huge bit way bigger window.
- 39:36SPEAKER_00: Anyway, Dallas ends up at nine.
- 39:38SPEAKER_00: We'll see if Mike Helbro ends up in his favorite city.
- 39:41SPEAKER_00: The Bucs end up with a 10th pick.
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: There was some conversation for me personally about like trying to convince Jan.
- 39:48SPEAKER_00: This is months ago after the deadline, and he didn't get traded.
- 39:50SPEAKER_00: Hey, we're gonna end up with one of the top picks in the draft.
- 39:53SPEAKER_00: This is me trying to explain to Giannis.
- 39:54SPEAKER_00: We're gonna trade that pick away and maybe get some talent in for you today.
- 39:58SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's happening at all, by the way.
- 39:59SPEAKER_00: By every report, I just feel like Giannis is out the door, and we're using this 10th overall pick to hopefully get somebody that can be a part of our young future.
- 40:06SPEAKER_00: And I'm not mad at that.
- 40:08SPEAKER_00: I I actually would be mad if the Bucks decide, oh, we're gonna trade pick number 10 to go acquire.
- 40:13SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to look at some teams that will be selling.
- 40:15SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
- 40:16SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go pick number 10 to go get Claxton and MPJ.
- 40:21SPEAKER_00: I don't even know how they can make that money match.
- 40:22SPEAKER_00: But like that, that wouldn't do anything for the Milwaukee Bucks.
- 40:26SPEAKER_00: Draft with pick 10, reset the tables, and figure things out later.
- 40:30SPEAKER_00: The Golden State Warriors, call me a hater.
- 40:33SPEAKER_00: I definitely didn't want to see the Warriors jump up.
- 40:35SPEAKER_00: I definitely didn't want to see the Warriors jump up.
- 40:37SPEAKER_00: Um I'm so tired of them trying to do that two-time last thing.
- 40:42SPEAKER_00: It didn't work out the first time, didn't want to see it work out the second time.
- 40:45SPEAKER_00: But I think at 11, they could still put together a nice little spot.
- 40:48SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the picks of the rumor to be moved to as they're trying to continue to build on the Steph Curry timeline.
- 40:54SPEAKER_00: And that timeline, I think, just got extended two years as Steve Kerr just got extended two years.
- 40:59SPEAKER_00: Which is just like I had no doubt in my mind, by the way, that Steve Curr was gonna be back.
- 41:03SPEAKER_00: I know that he was saying that he didn't know.
- 41:05SPEAKER_00: I know that he sat down with management and ownership to figure out what the next steps were, and we're gonna come back to the table next week to figure it out.
- 41:11SPEAKER_00: In my mind, Steve Curry's never gonna stop coaching the damn Warriors.
- 41:15SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 41:16SPEAKER_00: He's gonna be 106, and he's still gonna be.
- 41:20SPEAKER_00: I was gonna make a bad joke.
- 41:22SPEAKER_00: So I had no doubt in my mind he's gonna be back.
- 41:24SPEAKER_00: So a two-year deal makes sense, and again, that that further the timeline of maybe trying to build with Steph Curry.
- 41:29SPEAKER_00: So I could see them thinking about the idea of moving that pick up in some of the contracts, whether it be a Jimmy or maybe it's a sign of tray with Porzengis.
- 41:40SPEAKER_00: If you don't feel like Porzingis is the guy, something along those lines.
- 41:43SPEAKER_00: The OKC Thunder got pick 12.
- 41:45SPEAKER_00: And again, super happy that it's not them at the top.
- 41:50SPEAKER_00: But I just know they're getting Yaksel.
- 41:53SPEAKER_00: I just know it.
- 41:53SPEAKER_00: I just know it.
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: Actually, if the Warriors keep pick 11, Yakso wouldn't be too bad there.
- 41:58SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they want to go somebody younger, but I just know one of those two teams is gonna get Yaksel, and we're gonna be like, man, they did it again.
- 42:05SPEAKER_00: Because even though he is gonna be, what, 24 years old on draft night, the guys are stud right now.
- 42:11SPEAKER_00: Um, and he could go in and help an OKC team, a team that already got the most dept in basketball.
- 42:16SPEAKER_00: I think he genuinely walks in that locker room.
- 42:18SPEAKER_00: He's a rotational player in year one.
- 42:20SPEAKER_00: He's gonna be playing over the last two lottery picks they got in uh Topich and uh Sorber.
- 42:26SPEAKER_00: So I don't I think that they're gonna still be a winner.
- 42:28SPEAKER_00: And they've done a good job drafting outside of that anyway.
- 42:30SPEAKER_00: So if even if it's not Yaksun, it's Jaden Quainton's or it's, I don't know, Kareem Lopez or something.
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: They always feel like they hit in their drafts.
- 42:40SPEAKER_00: The Miami Heat find themselves in a place where we they find themselves way too often, which is either right outside the lottery or at the bottom of the lottery at pick number 13.
- 42:49SPEAKER_00: I think this goes a couple different directions.
- 42:51SPEAKER_00: I mean, if there is a guard available, I wouldn't be surprised if they look that way.
- 42:54SPEAKER_00: But by this time, I'm assuming all of those top guards are off the table.
- 42:57SPEAKER_00: And after that, a lot of the people that are at the top of the big boards are like forwards and stuff.
- 43:02SPEAKER_00: And I can see them going like a four, but they just went Kalair Ware the previous season or a year and a half ago, and they also got bam.
- 43:09SPEAKER_00: So I wonder if they try to move out of that spot.
- 43:11SPEAKER_00: Do they take a swing at somebody that maybe is not projected to go in the lottery, but like could be really talented, like a Cam Carr.
- 43:18SPEAKER_00: Do maybe they end up with low pass.
- 43:20SPEAKER_00: I don't think that they would go get Bennett's skirt.
- 43:22SPEAKER_00: That doesn't feel like a type of player for them.
- 43:24SPEAKER_00: There's something along those lines.
- 43:26SPEAKER_00: And lastly, we got the 14th overall pick, the Hornets.
- 43:29SPEAKER_00: The Hornets have been at the top towards the top of the lottery for a couple different seasons now.
- 43:32SPEAKER_00: So for them having picked number 14, that's still a good spot to go.
- 43:35SPEAKER_00: There's a couple centers in this realm potentially that they could go get.
- 43:38SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, I'm really excited to see where a day more goes.
- 43:43SPEAKER_00: I could see him going, let me see, as high as eight to Atlanta, or I could see him going as low as man, 18?
- 43:55SPEAKER_00: Maybe 18?
- 43:57SPEAKER_00: Maybe 19?
- 43:59SPEAKER_00: I don't think the Raptors are gonna be maybe the Raptors do look at him and say, hey man, Yakapur to sell the contract former seasons, but he's a really good center to have down here.
- 44:06SPEAKER_00: But we did just win a bunch of playoff games with a small ball lineup.
- 44:11SPEAKER_00: You know, I saw a lot of mocks with the Bulls taking him at nine before the Bulls moved up, but I just don't I don't see Dallas in the market for a center that early, right?
- 44:19SPEAKER_00: They got Derek Lively coming off of his injuries and Daniel Gafford as well.
- 44:23SPEAKER_00: I don't see the Bucs drafting that center, especially on a reset.
- 44:27SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to explain it, but if you're resetting your team, I don't think that Mara is the type of guy as your first like prospect.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to explain it.
- 44:35SPEAKER_00: It just feels like they would go maybe swing a little bit higher, a guy that may have a higher ceiling than what the seven-foot gazillion guy could potentially put together.
- 44:43SPEAKER_00: I know he's not going to Miami.
- 44:46SPEAKER_00: I guess there's a world he can go to OKC at 12.
- 44:51SPEAKER_00: I think that the OKC Thunder will try to go into the second Apron and be okay with it.
- 44:55SPEAKER_00: But it is in the back of my mind that's like, hey, Isaiah Hardenstein is a free agent this season, and maybe they don't want to go second Apron.
- 45:01SPEAKER_00: And maybe drafting Mara right there, who will be able to come in and just soak up minutes wouldn't be a bad idea.
- 45:08SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 45:09SPEAKER_00: Time will tell.
- 45:10SPEAKER_00: When we come back, we'll get more of small ball with Kenny Beecher.
- 45:20SPEAKER_00: With 43 days until the NBA draft, I'm gonna tell y'all my favorite prospects as of today, and this will be ever evolving, right?
- 45:28SPEAKER_00: The day before the draft, maybe somebody that I mentioned today is not even close to some of my favorites, but I want to tell you the guys that I'm liking with my small amount of research going into.
- 45:37SPEAKER_00: Again, Caleb Wilson was one of my favorite prospects before I did all the research.
- 45:40SPEAKER_00: I still haven't done much research on some of these other guys, but Caleb Wilson, I hope he ends up in Chicago.
- 45:44SPEAKER_00: He is a guy that's really, really high on my list.
- 45:47SPEAKER_00: Braden Burris fell in love with watching him play during the tournament.
- 45:50SPEAKER_00: He just looks like a low mistakes, high IQ wing slash guard.
- 45:54SPEAKER_00: I think he's listed at 6'4.
- 45:55SPEAKER_00: We'll see what ends up happening at the combine.
- 45:57SPEAKER_00: But he just really made mistakes and it just felt like he didn't miss shots.
- 46:01SPEAKER_00: So he was a guy that I was hoping to be there at nine if the Bulls kept nine, but guess what?
- 46:05SPEAKER_00: We did it.
- 46:05SPEAKER_00: Cam Carr.
- 46:07SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: This gotta be something I'm missing.
- 46:09SPEAKER_00: Again, I ain't ducked up into the footage too much.
- 46:12SPEAKER_00: But when I've watched Cam Carr, I'm like, this guy's not a this guy's not a lottery pick this year.
- 46:16SPEAKER_00: Maybe I gotta lock in.
- 46:17SPEAKER_00: But I from what I've seen from him, love him.
- 46:20SPEAKER_00: I love him, I love him, I love him.
- 46:21SPEAKER_00: They got him projected at number 17 on this mock uh reading on Take-a-thon.
- 46:25SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be too mad if he ended up at number 15 with this I go bulls.
- 46:30SPEAKER_00: Then we move on to maybe my favorite prospect in the entire draft is I don't even know if it's Dalen or uh Dylan Swain from Texas.
- 46:39SPEAKER_00: I know Swain.
- 46:41SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 46:42SPEAKER_00: It's something about his game, y'all.
- 46:43SPEAKER_00: I don't know how much it translates because he does not shoot the three-point ball well.
- 46:46SPEAKER_00: He is an older prospect.
- 46:47SPEAKER_00: He'll be 21 years old on draft night.
- 46:50SPEAKER_00: But looking at his footage from Xavier before he transferred to Texas and he got on the ball a little bit more, the defensive playmaking that he was doing over there was ridiculous.
- 46:58SPEAKER_00: And then he got to Texas and he got used more as a ball handler.
- 47:01SPEAKER_00: Downhill pressure was crazy, running the floor was crazy, finished at the rim was crazy.
- 47:06SPEAKER_00: The jump shot got a hitch into it.
- 47:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it ain't the prettiest.
- 47:09SPEAKER_00: It's definitely not the prettiest.
- 47:11SPEAKER_00: But he looks like an NBA player based on the defensive stuff.
- 47:14SPEAKER_00: Now, from what I've read, once he got to Texas and his offensive low went up, the defensive impact dropped a little bit, maybe a lot of bit.
- 47:20SPEAKER_00: But I think as you as he'll find himself in the NBA and trying to get it in the rotation, he'll recognize that, oh, the defense that I played over Xavier is gonna be the way I get into the rotation.
- 47:30SPEAKER_00: So I really, really love him as a prospect, man.
- 47:32SPEAKER_00: Um, and maybe I got to lock in a little bit more to see the jump shooting numbers and wide open versus contested or off the dribble, but the jump shot is a bit of a bit of a hitch, but it's okay.
- 47:42SPEAKER_00: My last guy is a guy that I'm not even completely sure is gonna stay in this year's draft is Tyler Tanner.
- 47:47SPEAKER_00: He's listed as six foot from Vandy.
- 47:49SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he's gonna actually end up being six foot when it comes to combine this week.
- 47:53SPEAKER_00: Um, he is one of those guys that has kept his eligibility open.
- 47:57SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure that if he could get a first round promise, he'd stay.
- 48:00SPEAKER_00: That's just me speculating.
- 48:01SPEAKER_00: Um, he'd if he got a first-round promise, he'd stay.
- 48:04SPEAKER_00: I don't know what he looks like in the NBA, but another one of them players that it's easy to fall in love with.
- 48:09SPEAKER_00: Uh, watched him an attorney, but also knew of him before the attorney, because our boy Christian, who's one of our producers here at Enjoy Basketball, is a Van Dy fan.
- 48:17SPEAKER_00: Um, so he was telling us about Tyler Tanner, like way before Tyler Tanner had NBA player buzz.
- 48:24SPEAKER_00: So shout out to Christian, great scout.
- 48:26SPEAKER_00: Actually, Christian's not that bad of a scout the more I think about it.
- 48:30SPEAKER_00: There's a story for like six people who know Christian.
- 48:32SPEAKER_00: But if you watch the Enjoy Basketball channel, he is a star over there.
- 48:36SPEAKER_00: Christian, when I first met Christian, his interview process, I asked him, who was his favorite NBA player?
- 48:42SPEAKER_00: He said, not really, I don't really watch much of the NBA, which is a red flag, by the way, because we are enjoy basketball.
- 48:51SPEAKER_00: But he said, I love college basketball.
- 48:53SPEAKER_00: That is that is my league.
- 48:54SPEAKER_00: I said, Okay, cool.
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: He said, There is a guy that just got drafted that is my favorite guy.
- 49:00SPEAKER_00: He said, Jalen Wells.
- 49:01SPEAKER_00: Jalen Wells had a great rookie season, y'all.
- 49:05SPEAKER_00: Christian told us Jalen Wells, the second round pick.
- 49:07SPEAKER_00: That's my favorite guy, and he was great.
- 49:09SPEAKER_00: So maybe I should text Christian today.
- 49:11SPEAKER_00: Who's a sleeper in this year's draft?
- 49:13SPEAKER_00: He's gonna say Tyler Tanner.
- 49:14SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say outside of Tyler Tanner, who's the guy?
- 49:17SPEAKER_00: Also was finding myself looking at Alan Graves from uh Santa Clara and thinking, like, oh, that looks like a true NBA player, and whatever team he ends up on is gonna love him.
- 49:26SPEAKER_00: Um, but that's kind of where I'm at right now.
- 49:29SPEAKER_00: I'm intrigued with Jaden uh acquaintance.
- 49:31SPEAKER_00: I know he's got the knee thing, and that's gonna scare a lot of teams off.
- 49:34SPEAKER_00: Hell, it's basically scared me off from wanting him at number 15.
- 49:37SPEAKER_00: But that defensive upside is nuts if we can say that knee is healthy, but I'm always afraid of a big fella that already has some knee injuries.
- 49:43SPEAKER_00: But that's it, man.
- 49:45SPEAKER_00: NBA draft is here.
- 49:47SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess it's not here, but it's gonna be here sooner rather than later.
- 49:50SPEAKER_00: My team jumped up.
- 49:52SPEAKER_00: I'm on cloud nine.
- 49:53SPEAKER_00: We got a brand new person making decisions, and he's got all the wiggle room in the world to make decisions.
- 50:00SPEAKER_00: And um I don't know.
- 50:03SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to temper my expectations.
- 50:05SPEAKER_00: I'm trying not to get too hype, but damn it, it's hard.
- 50:07SPEAKER_00: It's hard not to get hype.
- 50:08SPEAKER_00: I'm watching these teams in the playoffs, and like, I just want to be here.
- 50:11SPEAKER_00: I want to see my favorite team in the playoff series and in a contender in that playoff series.
- 50:15SPEAKER_00: Not like last time we got beat up.
- 50:17SPEAKER_00: It's another episode of Small Ball with Kenny Beecham.
- 50:19SPEAKER_00: I'll catch y'all next week.
- 50:20SPEAKER_00: Peace.