Latest / The Recess Bell / The Kids' Television Discussion

Transcript

The Kids' Television Discussion · The Recess Bell

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: This production is brought to you by the Recess Bell.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, my name is Justin Greenberg and this is
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Film Reel. And if he didn't know, I actually host
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: a radio show over at Nasau Community College called the
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Radio Rumble, and a few weeks ago I had my
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: buddy Zach Turkell joining me and we were discussing television shows.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Now I know it's called Film Reel, but we sort
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: of deviate the different various subjects over on this show.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: But we started talking about children's television and just the
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: importance of it and some of our favorite memories and
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: maybe a little history lesson about children's television. So I
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: want to play this segment from the radio show. It
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: goes on for a while. Actually it's not a little segment.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: It's a long segment talking about children's television. So take
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: it away me and Zach. So I feel like I'm
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: somewhat educated on the history of children's television. And there
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: was a lot of changes throughout the years with children's television.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think like these Looney Tunes shows
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: that they would watch were created for television, but no,
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of them were, you know, shorts that were
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: played before movies, and that was a big thing with
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: children's television, you know, in the fifties and sixties, I
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: mean even to today. I mean Looney Tunes has never
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: really left the airwaves, but that was a lot of
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: the children's television would be reruns of things that were
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: already seen in movies, and Tom and Jerry Schwartz and
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: then obviously Hannah Barbera came along and created original programming
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: like Zogibah, but a lot of that stuff is also
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: geared towards adults or was played through prime time, like
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: The Flintstones was a Primetime it was never.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: Geared specifically towards kids, like the actual demographic that they
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: were looking towards was kids. No, it was for everybody.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think just the novelty of seeing a
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: cartoon on TV that's original probably was like crazy for
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: people back in the day. Oh, this is not a short,
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: this is like a twenty two minute sitcom, but it's
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: in cartoon form. Oh now it's in color, like this
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: is imagine that jump. The jump from black and white
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: TV to color TV must have been crazy. I think
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: the only thing I could equate it to would be
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: the jump from the Super Nintendo to the Nintendo sixty
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: four because like that two D sort of gaming into
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: the three D world of like Super Mario World into
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: Super Mario sixty four. Like I remember where I was
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: when I first saw that game at Toys r Us,
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: you know, and my mind was blown. I would imagine
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: talking to somebody that was around. I mean, maybe I'll
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: ask my uncle or my mom, because I'm sure they
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: had the black and white TV.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I honestly wish I was alive back then
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: and just seeing what it was like, you know.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: Must have been embarrassing to be the guy that had
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: like the.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: Black and white TV. Everyone else's still a.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Black and white TV is nineteen seventy eight. What are
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: you doing there, Billy?
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: I got it on discount, you know.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: And then what you just had to like get a
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: new TV. There's not like a converter you can be like,
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: you know, put this thing on your TV and you
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: get this new TV.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even if the old TV's working fine.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: Crazy to think about, yeah, but yeah, I mean, children's
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: television obviously took like a huge step in the positive
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: with the creation of Sesame Street.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Sesame Street, Yes, but that show, What's funny about that
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: show is that it was also geared towards adults as well,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: because if adults were watching with the kids, there were
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: some segments that adults would find funny, whether it's Burton Ernie.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: And trippy too, I mean some of the animations over
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: the animation that they have, because it wasn't just the Muppets,
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: but there was like there were you know, experimental because
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: Jim Henson loved that experimental film stuff. Yes, so he
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: was creating a bunch of really cool, trippy like I'm
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: sure if you were on LSD or something like that
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: and you were watching Sesame Street, I guarantee hippies would
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: be like, oh man, Sesame Streets on, let's get high
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: and watch Grover.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Sesame Street was a very risk taking show
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: because you know, there were other shows that came out
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: before Sesame Street. Yeah, I mean like Mister Rogers, Captain Kangaroo.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking of the Captain Kangaroo stuff like that,
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: But a lot of that wasn't I mean, Mister Rogers was,
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: but a lot of the other stuff wasn't. Really No,
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: it wasn't educational, and that's that was a risk. And
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: then also, you know Sesame Street.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: The cast was a huge risk, Yes, especially the cast,
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: and it didn't feel forced.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: It didn't.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I hate with a lot of modern programming.
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: You could tell that there is some sort of committee
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: that's like, oh, we need to do this, we need
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: to do that. We got oh we got to play
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: in this market, Well we gotta do No, they were
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: just it felt naturally like, no, we like this guy, Gordon,
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be you know, in the neighborhood. Yes, and
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: again it didn't play well in certain states, I want
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: to say, in like Alabama or certain.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: Cities banned for yeah years.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh my god, there's black children on
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: our TV screen, Like I can't allow my son to
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: watch this.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: So it was a huge innovative thing that happened at
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: the time, you know, not too long after the Civil
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: Rights Act was passed.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: No, I mean a lot of shows took ri I
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: mean Star Trek having the first interracial cast. I mean,
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: think about television was just so different back in the day.
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: And again, we didn't grow up in that ara, but
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: we're smart enough and have you know.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: But I've watched old Sesame Streets. Yeah, I've seen how
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: different it is and even compared to current.
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: Well don't get me started on that, but even like
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: like other television, like they couldn't have people in the
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: same bed. No, like you know, Lucy and Riki, they
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: had separate beds. They couldn't even not that they're showing
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: sex scenes, but they can't even have them laying in
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: the same bed. But then they'll be like promoting cigarettes,
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: and then like the oh yeah, it's so weird, like
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: the Flintstones will be like bio Winston cigarette Bonnie, and
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: then like the next show that's on, it's like, oh,
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: we can't have the woman show her ankles.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it make it makes sense interesting time, yes, yeah,
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: the fifties.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: But then you know in the seventies, a lot of
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: fun Hanna Barbaras shows, you know, the Scooby Doo was going. Yeah,
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: and just like a whole cavalcade of action oriented shows
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: into the late seventies and eighties, whether it's you know,
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: the super Friends, but they couldn't show certain things. A
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: lot of violence, yeah, was not allowed to be shown
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: with television. You watch some of those super Friend shows,
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: they don't throw any punches, they're not firing any guns.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: You know, the villains are basically jokes. But by the
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: time the eighties came along, they were like, no, yeah, yeah,
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have g I. Joe fight terrorists and you
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: know it's gonna be pretty violent. And again, you know,
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: the the Reagan era, a lot of things were just
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: different in general. So kids shows were very action oriented
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: and they were trying to sell merrchandise. I've got Sesame
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: Street didn't sell merchandise, but that wasn't the main focal.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very funny because you look at shows back
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: in the seven you know, when when PBS came out,
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: you had Mister Rogers and Sesame Street. You know, both
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: shows were educational. But the difference between Mister Rogers and
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: Sesame Street. Sesame Street had merchandise, a.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Lot of merchandise.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: You had the toys, you had books, you.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: Had radio I'm a Big Bird radio from back in
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: the early ladies.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: Even bed sheets, you know, like lunchboxes, backpacks.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: Mister Rogers was probably very against the right marketing and stuff.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his was more you know, more of like like
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: you'd be lucky if you get a video of mister Rogers,
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: He really hated violent TV shows. In that point, I'm
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: just like, shut up, mister Rogers. I'm want to watch
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: my Transformer.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: You know, there's you know, I'm sure he would be
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: he's rolling in his grave right now, probably seeing what's
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, right now.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean back in the eighties, I mean
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff. I'm not talking about the educational shows,
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: but the children's cartoons Saturday Mornings were there to sell merchandise.
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: But it was for me. I mean I love it. Yeah,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: going back and watching some of them, they don't age well.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: Stuff like the real Ghostbusters show age as well. Muppet
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: Babies ages really well, which is hard to find because
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: of rights issues because it's on Disney. Plus no no,
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: because they used so much footage from different movies, Like
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: they would open a door and there'd be a scene
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: of the Wizard of Oz and then they'd open a
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: door would be Raiders of the Lost Arc, which I
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: think Disney has the rights to some of the stuff.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: You know, you'd see Star Wars clips, but then you
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: see Ghostbusters clips. So to get the rights for all
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: those things exactly very pricey. So it's never been released
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: on DVD, never been released on Blu Ray and it's
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: streaming nowhere. Now. You can find episodes here and there
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: on YouTube.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: That's the only way.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: To find Muppet Babies, which is a big show back
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: in the day.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: Another one that I think has held up today, and
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: it's on Peacock for you Runs, is Garfield and Friends
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: Love Garfield. That is a really good show and it
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: still holds up today.
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know how they were able to do the
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: new Garfield movie because I can only picture Lorenzo Music
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: doing Garfield.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: I did a whole podcast about this. It's actually gonna
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: drop soon on if you follow me on Film Reel
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: that's Film Realist spelled r E A L. And I
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: talk all about voice acting, and I specifically talk about
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo Music, who did the voice of Garfield. You know
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: he talks. He's like very mono tone.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the best for get it's perfect. It is.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: And then you have Chris Prett. And I like Chris Prett.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: This is my whole argument. I like Chris Prett, but
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: he's so energetic and charismatic and he's everything that's the
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: opposite of Garfield. And I watched the Garfield movie and
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: it was a problem having him. He's done good voice work.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't think he was bad as super Mario. He's
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: very good in the Lego movie. But he's no Lorenzo Music.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I think you need to find a
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: voice actor. It would have to be a relatively unknown
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: that you could be able to match Lorenzo Music's voice.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: And the r argument some people would say is but
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: if you don't hire Chris Pratt, then who's going to
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: promote the movie. You can't have Chris Pratt on the
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Tonight Show. You can't have Chris Pratt on his Twitter
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: or his Instagram promoting the movie. I will say Chris
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Pratt is a big name, but this is a cartoon
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: and it's not like people are seeing this movie just
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: to hear his voice. Kids don't give a crep about
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: who's voicing the characters. They just want the best possible movie.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: Kids don't know who Amy Poehler is. No, but she
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: does a good job in the role in Inside Out Too,
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: which I'm gonna get to later on. Frozen is one
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: of the biggest animated movies of all time. I want
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: to say for a time it was the highest grossing
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: animated movie of all time. It has no A list
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: stars in it. No, it has Kristin Bell, who's D
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: list to the extreme. It has Josh gadd I mean
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: people that were relevant years ago. Josh Goadd has never
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: been a leading man in anything besides a Broadway show.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: And Kristin Bell was like a love interest inmcoms fifteen
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: years ago. Little kids just like it because it is
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: what it is. So I don't think you're getting as
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: much box office from Chris Pratt as you think, and
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: you're paying him right a hundred times more than you
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: could get somebody way.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: And there are so many people that want to get
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: into the voice acting industry that are super talented. They
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: could easily be able to mimic Lorenzo Music's voice and
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: be able to do that.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: I think they have like modern Garfield shows that has
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: somebody that sounds like the Garfield that you know.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, But why couldn't they do it for the movie.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Why couldn't they get the same guy?
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Because because they just want the star power. But they
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: don't get they don't get that nobody cares about that.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Garfield fans that are actually interested in the movie don't care.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: No kids don't care. You might have some diehard Chris
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Pratt and Samuel L. Jackson fans. I mean, is anybody
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: that's a Samuel Jackson fan being like, I gotta see
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: the Garfield movie now? He plays the dad of Garfield.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: No One, No One.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: Samuel Jackson is known for cursing and being in some
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: of the most violent movies of all time. It's the
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: different demographics, so it's a stupid thing.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: It is interesting that they brought up Garfield's dad, which
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: is a very interesting thing that they never brought up
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: The movie sucked because first of all, John is barely
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: featured in the movie, and the dynamic of John and
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: Garfield there is the whole basis of the whole comic
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: strip and the show. It's like, why is he playing
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: fifth banana in this movie?
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Is at least Odie in there a little bit more.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Odie's in there a lot because they know the kids
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: love Odie because he's a dog and he's goofy and
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: he doesn't talk. But I cannot recommend the movie. But
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: the really funny thing is, and we mentioned that Ghostbuster show,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: and I do tell this story in the podcast, but
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it right now, and I'm sure I've
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: said it before on the radio rumble, but Lorenzo Music,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: it's funny that you actually know who the hell that is.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Because it's shocking.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: The majority of the world probably doesn't. But he also
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: voiced Peter Venkman, who is Bill Murray's character in Ghostbusters.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: When they did the Ghostbuster cartoon, Bill Murray's character is
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: played by Lorenzo Music, and apparently the rumor is Bill
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Murray did not want his character to sound like Garfield,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: and he went to the producers and was like, we
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: got to get rid of Lorenzo Music. And all of
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: the real Ghostbuster fans hate that because they loved his
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: character portrayal. They thought Lorenzo Music was perfect as Peter Frankman.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: They got Dave Coolier to, you know, replace him, and
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: everyone hates the Coolier era. But the irony of all
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: that is Lorenzo Music dies in the early two thousands, Yeah,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: and they make a Garfield movie and who plays Garfield?
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Bill Murray?
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray. It's so crazy.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't get it because and it's funny
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: because if you listen to interviews with Lorenzo Music, that's
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: his actual voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's he doesn't put
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: on anything. That's his voice and it's perfect.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: He's a There's so many great voice actors out there
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: throughout the history, and a lot of them have been
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: featured in some of our favorite kids television shows. But
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: another thing that needs to be brought up. There was
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: some sort of government interference with television in the eighties
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: that basically said, you got to have some educational programming.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: We've been a certain hour or amount of hours on
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: a certain weekday week.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: So like Sundays were huge with having stuff like that.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: But a lot of these shows also would get away
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: with that by having the little PSA thing at the end.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: So at the end of G I Joe there'd be
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: like a kid that would be talking to a stranger
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: and then Duke from G I Joe back, don't talk
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: to strangers kid, and knowing is half the battle. And
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: then you know, the Ninja Turtles would be like don't
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: smoke crack at the end of like every episode of
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: the Ninja Turtle. So that was sort of.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: You remember they did you were young, but I'm sure
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: you know this. They did a whole, like a ninety
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: minute special of all of the characters. Oh yeah, and
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: it was all about like, don't do drugs.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: It wasn't ninety minutes it was it was it was
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: a thirty minutes.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody had the Ninja Turtles, Wepping Babies, Garfield.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: It's called the cartoon All Stars to the Rescue, and
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: it was introduced by George Bush. George Bush and Barbara
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Bush were like, you know, I can't do it an
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: original George Bush impression, but he's like, you know, you know, uh.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It played on every network. Yes, it was on CBS, ABC,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: NBC and probably some other local affiliates, and you know,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: he's basically like, you know, in the next half an hour,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be with our cartoon friends and go on
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: a journey all about not doing drugs.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. You know, I'm sure something like Who Framed
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Roger Rabbit sort of paved the way for that, because like, oh,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: we can have characters interacting with one another. What's funny
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: is Disney didn't want any of their A list stars involved,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: so they got like Uie, Dewey and Louie and uh
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Winnie the Pooh, but there was like no Mickey Mouse
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: or Donald Duck or Goofy or anything like that. But
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: you know, bugs Bonnie does a here for Warner Brothers.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I wish they could release it on DVD or something
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Just the VHS. Yeah, I watched it a few times.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: That's the rights issue probably, but not too yeah exactly.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah. So going into the eighties and nineties, there
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: was a lot more geared towards educational shows they had
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: because of the government and all that kind of stuff.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: So that's when Nick Junior and PBS Kids really started
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: to take form. When it wasn't just Sesame Street and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Mister Rogers. You had more shows that were educational first
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and then they put the entertainment second.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And you know, I could sort of I saw right
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: through those as a kid, I saw right through what
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: they were trying to do they were trying to disguise.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Captain Planet was a big one for me because I
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was like, there's something off about this. You know, they're
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: talking about like pollution, and I'm like, I don't know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're having an agenda here.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Kids are a lot smart, some of them are lot
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: smarter than people give them credit for. And I saw
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: right through that this was sort of some manipulation of
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: we're gonna say this is an action show, but really
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it's about stopping pollution and forest fires and stuff like that.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I did find one of the turtle tips. Can we
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: hear them talk about how to conserve water?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Let's hear this all right, just with water resources more
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: scarce than ever, we are urging our listeners to conserve water.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: If you leave the water on while you brush your teeth,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you can't waste as much as five gallons of water.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Don't go to the bathroom, you can't up the duke paste.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Thanks, so turn the water off while you brush your teeth.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I thought that Radio Guys sounded familiar.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Nice try dude, for those who drank a gallon of water,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yeah, but that's yeah. It was like so
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: out there and forced.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, but by the time the nineties came along,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of action shows that they did
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: sell toys for, but they were still really good and
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they do hold up, like The Batman Show and the
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Superman Show, and then even non action shows like Tiny
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Toon Adventures and Animaniacs. You know, there was merchandise for them,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: but they weren't like he Men and Ninja Turtles and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: ThunderCats where he's like, here's the newest vehicle. It's the sewer,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you know, play set, and then you'd go to the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Toys Russ Isle and you'd see it for sale. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg had a big play in cartoons in the nineties.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He produced all that stuff. He produced Tiny Tuns and Animaniacs,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Pinky in the Brain, Hysteria, a lot of Freakyzoid was
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: another good one. But let's get to the bread and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: butter with this discussion, because you know, we're not just
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: talking about cartoons. We're going to talk about like stuff
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: that's geared towards very young kids, you know, like three
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: four year olds. And then Nick Junior Star So you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: grew up different era than mine. You're ten years younger
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: than me. So what were some of the big ones
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: that you would watch on Nick Junior? Is that where
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you were watching We never had Disney, I.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Had no well we did have Disney, but I never
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: really watched it. I had PBS and Nick Junior. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: in terms of Nick Junior, when I was a kid,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: it was Dora the Explorer. Blues Clues was still on
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: with Steve. There was a show about an octopus named Oswald.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I remember that who was voiced by Fred Savage, But yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: was it?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred, that's so funny, who is like a really
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: bad person apparently.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And there was what else, Little Bear?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: They're still showing Little Bear, Little Bear, Franklin.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Franklin the Turtle.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, it couldn't have been new episodes though it was
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: probably the same sixty five.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And then there was another show that came out later.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It was called LazyTown. I don't know if you've ever
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: seen the memes of it. There was this guy who
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: would like, we're number one.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Was it a cartoon, No, it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Was a live action show.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: No, it was like this this look it up.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: It was. It was about like its main purpose was
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: to get people up, to get kids off the couch
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and exercise healthy.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Oh like Michelle Obama craze.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was before her time.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But you're saying she stole from Michelle obo maybe. Oh, yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I've seen this with the girl with the pink hair.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was very popular when it came out.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: That was on Nick nickelodeon Nick Junior. Yeah, I don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: know how I feel with the live action on Nick Junior.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: There was a few when I was growing up, there
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: was a Gullagulla island. Huh.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It was basically I didn't watch that. It was off
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the air when I was a kid.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It was a family that lived on an island, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: there was like a frog in a like a costume,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: like a mascot, Binya min mina. It was pretty pretty good,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: but I usually stuck with the cartoons. When it came
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to the.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Junior live action and it's not even live action. It's
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: half in half. It's Nick Junior, No.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Not Nick Clues.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the only live person there was Steve. That
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an I'd love to see how that was filmed.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: It was just all just green screens. So how did
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: he interact with the items? You know?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: He said he had to, Like really it was it
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: was difficult. I would love to meet Steve one of
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: these days. I know he does a lot of these
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: conventions and I would just you know, and him talking
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: about like the the behind the scenes stuff of Blues
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Clues is fascinating. Yeah, because it was so he was
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the only person in the studio except the camera, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: he would have to look at the camera and he
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: would have to kind of picture in his head well,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: where could these characters be.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a very it was difficult, difficult, especially
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it probably wasn't as difficult for him because he was
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That's probably one of the first big roles he had. Yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: but if you ever talk to like old actors like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Sir Ian McKellen, you're gonna be in this new Lord
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of the Rigs movie, but you're acting with like a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: guy dressed in a green costume with a bunch of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: white balls all around him, and then you have to imagine,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, a giant mountain behind you. They're
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just like, what how are you talking about? Sir I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: was in Shakespeare. Yeah, so for him, you know, he
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was a younger kid, it probably wasn't as difficult it
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: would be for like Patrick Stewart. You're gonna be acting
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: with a balloon that is actually, you know, a walrus,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: but we can't afford a real wallrus, so we're just
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: gonna have this balloon and then Cgien. As far as
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: another show that's sort of like Blues Clues, but a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: lot trippier and a lot funnier. Pee Wee Peewee's Playhouse
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and being so good.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the I think some
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: of the creators of Blues Clues probably got inspiration from
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Pee Wee's Playhouse, for.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Sure, they had to.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And I think Steve also probably got inspiration from Paul
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Rubins for sure.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Hopefully not all of Paul Rubins.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Oh no, definitely not. But I meant like the the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: wackiness you know him being.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But he's not really whacked wacky wacky, like.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You'd be like, oh yeah, like you would do that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: But not not to the extent of pee Wee's screaming
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. But pee Wee played towards anybody could watch.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Blues Clues is very kid centric. It's not unless you're
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like Stone to the God.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Pee Wee's Playhouse was was was was a for everybody, Yeah,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and it What was weird about that show is that
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it wasn't really educational. It wasn't Peewe pee Wee, not
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: at all. No, And there were a lot of adult
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: jokes in that show.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: But I think in a sense, okay, it wasn't so
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in your face like one plus one is this? How
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: many outs? But it was educational in the sense that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it showed you how to interact with people. It showed
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you different forms of art. It's like, oh, that's claymation.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: This is an old footage of a you know, a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: PSA thing from the nineteen twenties. Like they had so
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: many different forms of art, so it was a different
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't so hand and fist like you know, this
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: is you know red, the color of the day is red.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's just sort of hammered down, and I think kids
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: can see right through that sort of like how I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: felt what that Captain Planet. I think a lot of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: those shows that force you into like, okay, am I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: in school now? Like is this is just more school?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That's why I think the beauty of Sesame Street was Yes,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: they would have this is the letter of the day,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: this is the number of the day, but also was
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: surrounded by really fun stuff. Yeah, you know, the Muppets
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: being really fun. Like we mentioned the clay nation stuff,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that they would have, the animation stuff, the singing. You know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they would have guests, you know, whether it's Paul Simon
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: who actually was featured on Sesame Street.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So and what was very smart about Sesame Street was
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that they would reuse some of those clips oh yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: over and over again.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Because I was seeing stuff that they must have been
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: playing from the seventies.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it and they made and you wouldn't have
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to spend so much money on it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: And it's timeless though it's not like, oh, here's this
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: app that no one's gonna know what the hell you're
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: talking about in five years. Sesame Street is timeless. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I think those shows that are so just like, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like Dora, we're gonna do we gotta go to the river,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the forest, then to Grandma's house, and then she'd just
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: be staring blankly at them and repeat it a river, forest,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Grandma's house. I hate that form of child's entertainment that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was your era because that kind of started with Blues Clues,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: which was honestly not even my era. I was too
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: old to be watching Blues Clues. I would watch it
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: because again we had like, you know, fifteen channels to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: watch a New York kid, and then my sister was
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: watching Blues Clues, so I'd watch that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Form of like there's a host and then he's gonna
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: interact with the TV and just sort of wait for
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: your response, because Barney would never do that. Barney with
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: a big craze when when I was very young. That
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: was like the big thing that was the blues clues
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: of my generation.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Never really talk to the camera. No, never, and neither
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: did the kids with him. It was it wasn't It
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was just a regular show.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I like shows also that have kids in it when
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you're a kid, because it's like, oh, I can see myself.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: That's why you know Robin was created with Batman because
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the comic book readers were mostly kids, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: kids wanted to envision themselves as Robin.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So great.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Oh I could imagine myself hanging out with Barney so exactly?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Would you what would you say? Is for your generation
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: or actually because you watch some of the older stuff
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: as far as Nick Junior goes Mount Rushmore. We'll do
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: this together because we were actually running out of time
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: for this hour. The Mount Rushmore of Nick Junior shows
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: not necessarily the best ones, yeah, because I would say
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: probably the people on Mount Rushmore are the real one.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Those probably aren't the four best presidents, right?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Would you say some of them are?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Some of them are great, but I'm sure some of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: them you know, I don't. I'm not political, so I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: would I wouldn't know that, but say, like the most influential,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: like those.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Are like those are some of the most influential.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like let's do that as far as our
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. So we can't pick something that's our save
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: right necessarily.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It would have to be a show that still stands
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the test of time and probably inspires shows today.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, And are we going with like Nick Junior originals
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: because some of the stuff they would like import I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: don't know if David the Known, for instance, was created
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: for Nickel it was import Like Blues Closes on there
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: was made. But that's that has to be on this
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: list for Mount Rushmore. It's not even a debate. And
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously the Steve era of.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Blues Clues, I'm gonna, yeah, figure out where that goes
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: specifically on the Mount Rushmore.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: We don't have to go that far. Well, it's on.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It's on the freaking mountain.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It is on the It is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: See, my generation is so different and and I don't
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: think my shows stand the test of time. Like, okay,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it's not my bread and butter, but Dora the Explorer
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: is pretty darn popular. I don't like it, but I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: mean they made a live action movie it. It's iconic
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: enough that it could be parody in fact, and inside
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: out too, they parodied something like Dora.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Now, are we specifically going to talk about the nineties
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and two thousands or are we going to talk about
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: throughout Nick Junior's time?
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: What else do you mean? Like even moving forward? I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: don't know what the hell they play now. I don't
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: know what's on that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think Patrols on Nickelodeon. Oh is it? Yeah? I have.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: That's pretty big.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Is it too recent? Though it might be recent? I'm
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: definitely putting Dora on there as much as, like, you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I don't like that show. Let's see, I don't think
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: mine are as iconic. You know, Like I used to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: watch a show called Eureka's Castle, which was great. It
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: was sort of like Sesame Street, but only featuring like
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the muppets. I mean, they weren't muppets, but they were,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, puppets that were like Sesame Street muppets. But
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you know, you ask an eighteen year old kid what
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Eureka's Castle is, they're gonna have no idea. You ask
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: an eighteen year old what door is, they're going to know.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: You ask a forty eight year old what Dora is,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: They're probably gonna know. They have some relative that knows
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it's all. Yeah, think we got blues Clues in Dora. Yes,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: am I missing? You know, would Little Bear or Franklin
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: have to be on there? I think they were pretty
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: pretty popular.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: So Little Bear and Franklin it was still on the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: air by the time I was in middle school. They
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: weren't showing new episodes, but it was reruns. So I
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: think people I think if you ask people doing the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Nassaus Morning Madhouse what Little Bear in Franklin is, I'm
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: sure they would know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I think they would definitely know Franklin Franklin for sure,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: because they have memes of him. I've seen him, you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: know on TikTok.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: If you show them a picture of a little Bear, they
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: would know.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And that was based on a book.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: It was based off a book. Yes, it was written
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: by the same author who wrote Where the Wild Things.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Maurice Sendak, Yeah, Now what do you think is
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: more popular? I always thought Little Bear was like a
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: little too proper. It felt British. It was like, I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: don't know, I liked Tea.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I liked the Little Bear because of the fact it
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: was a very it was a nice setting. You know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: they were in the woods. Yeah, it looked like it
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: was from like the ninth It was classy, eighteen hundreds.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Was it actually? I feel like it was. It felt
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like it just the way that the girl was dressed.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: It looked like it was like right before.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Like Franklin is more modern. You know, he's riding the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: bus and whatnot.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I liked Franklin.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I liked Little Bear a little bit more.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Let's go, let's put a little bear on there.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more, a little bit more.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one more for Mount Rushmore of Nick Junior. You're
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: gonna hear this on Q one, O four three or
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: w CBSFM or WFN.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: No.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: This is why w HBC is the greatest.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I actually have another show that was based off
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: of a book and then it became a show on
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Nick Junior, The Busy World of Richard Scary.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I love that show.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: That was a great show.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Was it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Now lasting enough?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't on the air when I was a kid.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But I knew of Richard Scary because I had the books,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and but I'm watching a lot of the episodes. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: think if you show kids today the Busy World of
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Richard scary. I think it would still hold up.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched that in so long. I have a
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: little happy meal toy of the worm and the Apple car.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't gone back.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Super seven Super seven, which makes these very nice intricate action.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Very expensive expensive.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, way too. They're coming out with Richard Scary figures
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: for eighty dollars.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one little figure.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: No, it's for twenty bucks. You get huckle Cat and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Lonely Worm twenty bucks. Twenty bucks, which isn't bad, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: then you get Bananas Gorilla for remember him?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Are they they're like the reaction figure.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, reaction figures, so they were posed, but.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: They're not like because they have very like ones that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: come with like seven different hands and then you can
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: change heads.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: No, there's there's a giant huckle Cat that's like available
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: for like two hundred and eighty something hours. It's expensive,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. I'm like, I want to get it, but
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: it's like I want to wait until it comes into
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: smaller size. And it's now coming out, so I'm excited
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: about that. But I don't know if it's on the mountains.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Mor I know it is.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I just thought of it and it's not a show
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: face face.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, unfortunately was face.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So face was the mask guy ascot. He was the guy.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And we were talking about this earlier with with you
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: know hosts of shows, you know, Dinner in a Movie
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and Alvira. He was sort of like that. He would
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: be like, you know, coming up next, there's a little bear.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Coming up next is Franklin, And then you talk a
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: little bit about the show and talk about peanut butter
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and milk.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And stuff like that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And he was he around when you were a kid.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: He probably got phased out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: No, he got phased out.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: He was there for a while.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Only wait, I so I had Blues Clues VHS tapes. Yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: door of VHS tapes. Face would be in between each episode.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: So that's how I would know face. But also I
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: think maybe maybe my first year of watching Nick Junior,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: he was still there.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He was there from he was a ten year run
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety four to two thousand and four.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then they got rid of him and then
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: they replaced him.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Hyper Pyper the piper.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It was Piper.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Was it a real possum or.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: It looked like it was either CGI or was a puppet.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: They have glasses. I feel like maybe, okay, I'm looking
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: at them. Yeah, this guy sucks. Did they ever bring
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: face back? They definitely did for like.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Some reunion, for some reunion.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just thought of one. What it's pretty big,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Bob the Builder. I forgot to do shows. I think
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: we're putting the Builder.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: What's funny is Bob the Builder was on both networks.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It first was on Nick Junior, then on PBS, then
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it went to PBS.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of those shows would also play on CBS.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, so Bob the Builder first was on Nick Junior
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and yeah, it would be on CBS on Saturday mornings,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and then I guess the rights expired and then it
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: moved to PBS. Bob the Builder is still around today.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: They made a new version.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Pretty famous, man. I mean I know the theme song,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and I was way too old to know what Bob
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: They made.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: A version now it looks horrible. It's not the claimation.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: The clamation I think still holds up today. Yeah, Bob
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the Builder. I loved that show, all right.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So that's our mount rushmore of Nick Junior shows, because
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: why the hell not Blues Clues, Door the Explorer, Little Bear,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and Bob the Builder.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I would go over another show, but I don't know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: It definitely doesn't hold up well today because of its creator,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Little Bill.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Oh god yeah,