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Peter Espevoll: Hrada · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Today we have Peter from Harada, but you may know Peter from Extol and
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at least at the time of the recording yesterday or two days ago. Peter,
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I don't know if you know this, but we actually released our interview
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with and we interviewed only a number of months ago because we wanted to talk
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to him about Extol and playing Furness Best and Colin and I are going to
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be at Furness Best so we'll be able to hang out with Oly and obviously
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we know you're not going to be able to be a part of that,
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but we're still super stoked. We're obviously really stoked about the new Herada album
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and we want to chat all about that. But before we begin, Uh,
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it looks like a beautiful day in Norway, and uh, I'm just
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super jealous of where you're at right now. I mean, like you've got
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the lake in the background, you got the rolling hills, you've got your
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beautiful deck. I feel like we should just be grilling out right now.
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We should and you should. You should just come here. I mean,
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Norway's it's the best place in the world. Yeah, it might be the
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most expensive barbecue I'd ever have at your place, but it would be totally
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worth it. Show us your setup one more time. Your your your cookout
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set up there? Okay, yeah, yeah, it's like a it's like
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a full on oven and grille and everything. We cow. This is my
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this is my barbcause and I'm be lit with my own hands. Man.
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You're like you're like an honorary American. Yeah, you got the fjord background.
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This is just absolutely gorgeous. Right uh h, Peter, what is
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your favorite thing to grill? Like big whole stuff? So, like,
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I mean, my my my barbecue is but I've had like a whole land
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in there, which is really really good. I've had like the smaller pigs
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in there, so yeah, that's the fun stuff. But I can do
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anything. I also like to do sort of slow cooking like barbecue vegetables because
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it's really really nice when you sort of treat it the same way as to
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do with meat. Basically, anything you can do with meat, you can
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do with the carrots. Oh yeah, smoke, smoke carrots are really delicious.
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Yeah, I got, I got. I actually have ribs on the
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girl right now on the on the smoker. They're they're outside. Hopefully it
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stays to temp. But to say, if they're on the grill, you
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better not be doing this podcast when you're be burning down your whole farm.
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It's a it's slow going at two hundred degrees right now, So we're gonna
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we're gonna keep an eye on it. But I can't wait to go out
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and eat some of those ribs. It's gonna be great. So, Peter,
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if you ever end up in South Dakota, I'll I'll smoke you some
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of my my homegrown pork. I think you'll a oh wow, Oh yeah,
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I'll be there. Sweet sweet smoked smoked salmon or anything like that.
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Do you guys have salmon in Norway? Oh yeah, I mean, oh
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yeah, it's like the Yeah, together with the Alaska, I guess we're
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the salmon capital of the world. Sweet. I figured I figured that Norway
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probably had some pretty good salmon. But it's after oil. It's the thing
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that we are getting richel really wow, we export that in yes, oil
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black metal musicainst salmon, that's I love it, love it. I bet
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you cook up a sweet sweet salmon. Uh sweet man, Okay, we
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got a talkorto man. This is this is such a fun album. Mirrorland
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is It is exactly what I hoped for. It's so lush and and cinematic
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feeling. Tell us about uh, tell tell us about the process. It's
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been a while, says, we've had you on. Last time we had
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you on, you had two songs out. Now you've got the full album
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and everything like that. I'm in love with it. I know Mason's been
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been been rocking it out a little bit as well. Tell us about the
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process of making it. What, what was awesome about it? What was
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maybe not so awesome about it? How to go? Yeah, wow,
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thanks, thank you so much. Well, I think the last time we
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talked, I thought that the album would be out, like, you know,
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four or five maybe six months. Yeah, from we talked. But
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what when when was it one and a half? At least two years ago?
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I would say it was about two years ago now. Yeah, so
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obviously that happened. I guess it was also in the middle of the pandemic
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of that sort of made things a little bit harder. Like me and Osman,
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like we had many many weeks every now and then where we actually couldn't
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meet or or we didn't want to meet just to be safe, you know.
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So so that's kind of strange, But also that was sort of the
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whole point with with Rada and and sort of one of the rules of men
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and I made and one of the things that made me actually want to do
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music again was to to create something, to create an album like a journey,
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like an adventure, with no expectations from anyone else. So if it
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takes a year, fine, if it takes two years, fine, no
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no worries. We're just gonna have fun and we're gonna create what we want
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to create with no no, no input from anyone else, no you know,
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pressure, no nothing, which I think was sort of the Yeah,
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it sort of had to be that way for me to come back into music
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again. Yeah, I love it. Now the album feels very conceptual?
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Is was there a concept behind it? I know that there was a little
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bit of a discussion of that last time we had yon, But now that
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it's a full piece, would you say that it's it's fully conceptualized in terms
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of like having an overall theme, not like a prop or like a theme
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theme thing. But I mean the whole mirror a thing is sort of like
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a concept here. I mean, I think what three or four of the
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songs has something to do Like I was even mirror in the in the in
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the title, and obviously the album is called mirror Land, So I mean
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it's it's a lot of the songs are about us as human beings, either
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mirroring each other or how we sort of perceive the world through the mirrors.
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Yeah, so I mean that, but I think like that the most,
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Like if you if you're going to like paint the big red line, it's
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it's just about you know, being human, I think, and uh and
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everything you know, that's yeah, big themes like like love and love and
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war and hate things. But yeah, so basically the human aspect of this
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world, like how how do we view each other? How do we like
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treat each other? So yeah, so sort of like a theme area.
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I like I was gonna say, like I remember when we last chatted a
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lot of the album, or at least the couple sorry not the album,
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but the couple songs you had released you mentioned, like, you know,
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there is definitely some influence in the writing from like what you know American politics
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have been like over the last number of years, and like just what's happening
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in the world over the last few years, and so it definitely does feel
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like there's some sort of social or even political commentary that is interweaved, and
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not that like you're taking like certain kind of political stences or anything, but
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again like you're just kind of making commentary and you're thinking through it from like
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a human perspective of like what what does this mean as as a human?
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Yeah? For sure? And yeah, and I mean that I think,
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like for me always, like since ex Al, like since I was fourteen,
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I started writing lyrics for EXOL, I need to write something that is
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so really that feels my heart and you know, how how human beings interact
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with each other and how we treat each other in this crazy world these days,
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it really feels up a lot of the space inside of me for better
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and for worse, because I mean it can be quite frustrating and yeah,
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agonizing to see how how we treat each other in this in this world.
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One of the things that I love also about this album is obviously you're singing
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throughout all of it, and you have such an amazing voice. And every
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time I listen to your voice and think, wow, that's such an amazing
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voice, it is absolutely hard to believe the scream that I know is capable
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in that voice too. And you know, let's say there is a person
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who doesn't know anything about X Toll, they only know about HERATA, Like,
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I think they would be absolutely shocked that you have the scream that you
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do. It's just amazing given how beautiful and again, like I would even
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say cinematic your voices, Oh thank you. And I mean Osmond also sings
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like we probably sing like fifty fifteen. I mean we like on every song
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there's like three or four or five, you know, voicing. So I
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think the mix between us also makes it really special. And I think the
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other way around, I think people who has only heard Extole will probably also
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think what the what the hell is this? I think I think Extoll fans
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will love it as well though, so if they haven't given it a chance,
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like I think, I think they're gonna absolutely adore it, hopefully hopefully.
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I mean I've heard a lot of comments from extollal times that say that
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they can sort of hear like there is some extolled DNA in it, and
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I'm totally totally you know, one other thing and I don't know what this
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is or why this is the case. But when it comes to Scandinavian musicians,
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especially vocalists, I noticed that you guys use the best diction. When
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you guys sing, I can always understand what you're saying, or like what
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Oli's sang or what like another Scandinavian idol of mine Christian Lingskag, I can
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always understand them. But like a lot of American or English bands like their,
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you know their mushmouth and you can ever understand them. I've always impressed
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that, like you guys being from a complete different country, your your obviously
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English not being your first language, just how well you present these these really
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fascinating ideas and stuff like that through the music with such clarity and diction.
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Is that something you guys think about or is that something you specifically think about,
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Like, hey, I want to make sure that everyone can understand exactly
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what I'm saying. I'm trying, but I mean as you can hear me
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speaking now, and as you can hear on all my screams and all my
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my singing throughout it's it's not an American or an English person singing or screaming.
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So I have my my accent and my my way to pronounce things which
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are not always correct. I do my best. Yeah, I like it.
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It's artistic license, I think, is what we call that. Yeah.
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I actually listened to a couple of burial songs the other day, and
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I haven't listened to them for like many, many many years. And at
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that point that was also really really young. So it's just funny to listen
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to. Like some of the words that I'm screaming is like, that's not
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even that word, Like it's so wrong, Like it's funny, like Cerero's
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just making up your own language. Yeah, exactly, that's right. I
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do really love when somebody who is an American sings in English and you can
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hear that accent, though, Like there are a lot of British bands that
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you can't even hear that they're British, like if you didn't know, like
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if you hadn't heard them actually talk like an interview, they're actually British exactly
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exactly, Like like Ozzie sounds like he's indistinguishable in terms like what are you
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saying? But then when he sings you can understand her pretty well. Right,
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it's so weird to me. But then like one of my favorite bands
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from Britain is Black Party. They were like a post punk band back in
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the two thousands, and it's very like he clearly has an English accent,
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and I love that, uh and and so I really love when you can
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hear somebody's accent, and you certainly can hear your your Norwegian accent as well
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in your singing, and I think it's actually great. There's clarity and there's
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diction, but there's like still the accent that you can that kind of pulls
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through. And I love that, I really do. Yeah, I mean,
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I'll only hope that, you know, people understand what I'm singing.
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But then also they must think that it's some maybe a little bit exotic or
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something like that, to give it a little extra, you know, that's
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what they say about. I mean, look at the fjord and so exotic,
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oh man, so beautiful. Are you able to actually do like drive
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motorized boats or anything on on a fjord or is that like are you of
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course a great well in Minnesota, there's like a lot of lakes where it's
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you can only do like paddle things, you know, like kayak or canoeing
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or something. You can't have motorized boats in them. So up in the
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mountains, up in the mountains and stuff like that. You you you can't,
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but then you have to have the rowing boats and stuff like that.
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But I mean, like on the George and everything. That's whatever. So
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you got a boat, right? No? Actually what I never do you
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live that close to fjord and you have a boat. You got to have
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a boat exactly. I actually had the opportunity to get about for free,
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and I turn it down because I don't want to stress in my life.
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Oh yeah, well that that's something that people never realize and they never think
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about when you get a boat, especially if you're like I mean, it's
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winter, it's you know, you know, turns into eyes. You have
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to take the boat up, you have to store it somewhere, and then
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you have to pay like him, I mean, and I'm not the boat
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got I have no idea how to do it. So yeah, thanks,
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but no thanks. Yeah, no, I would be in the same boat
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as you. Wink wink. Uh. That's uh, it's it's a lot
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of responsibility. Yeah, And I mean I mean this to be a little
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bit of a serious note. At least in Norway. Probably you guys have
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it's much the same we have so many things, you know, I was
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like material things, and I mean I don't even have time to to you
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know, need the laundry with three kids and and full full time job.
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I mean, am I supposed to take a boat and a cabin and a
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two cars and a dog and a cat and a cow, And I mean
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it's just wow. I don't have a cow. I don't have a cat,
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and I don't have a dog for those same reasons. I don't want
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to stress. Do you have a sauna though I wish I did, But
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I take a sauna like three to four times a week, so I do
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sauna every week, many times a week. But I had I was sort
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of redoing my like underneath my garage there was a space which was only like
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a storage or like a workshop kind of thing, and I just cleaned it
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out. And I have the opportunity to either make sauna or music studio like
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a home studio, so it's most the home studio makes sense, is not
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going to be making you money. A music studio potentially make you some money
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potentially potentially. When you go around, I mean it looks like you're in
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this really like cool part of Norway. When you go around like I would
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imagine your neighbors are like just you know, regular people working, you know,
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like nine to five type jobs. You got, probably doctors and teachers
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that you live around. Do any of them know what you used to look
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like? Yeah? I mean my neighbors here, I mean they've all been
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introduced to extoll and they were probably all in black metal bands too. Rite
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No, actually none, none of them have been, but a couple of
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them are are metal hens. At least they used to be like, you
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know, it's a great so were they like awestruck when a when a metal
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god walks into their neighborhood, And I don't think so. They're just like,
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as long as you make sure you keep your house nice and clean and
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don't devalue our houses, we'll be on good terms. We don't care what
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kind of music you are into. Yeah, hey, something that kind of
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surprised me and I was not expecting this, but uh, a Harada version
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of Pearl. That was. That was a treat that I think everyone was
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surprised by and very thankful for. What was the thought process behind adding Pearl
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to Mirrorland? It was? I mean when Osmin and I met, he
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like I don't know, fifteen ish years ago, he had never heard of
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Extoll, so so he didn't know about Extoll when we met. And then
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so he got introduced Extole through sort of print era and Pearl was just one
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of his favorite songs like from that time and like still today. And I
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don't know, really, I can't remember why we started talking about doing a
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version of it for RAD, but I guess we did. We started talking
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about it somehow for some reason, and yeah, we made many, many,
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many different versions of it. And I was never really happy because I,
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to be honest, I was a little bit scared because I know peerl
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means like a lot too too many people, and I just didn't want to.
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I had to sort of treat it in a way that I, at
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least I thought, you know, would communicate something and wouldn't be too crazy
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or too far away or I mean, it's obviously far away, but it's
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yeah, so I just wanted to do it's the English term, yeah,
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give it just a respect and whatever the song needs. I was really unsure,
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like up to the very final point, whether or not to release it,
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But then I got this idea to ask my friend in Australia. John
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Reichard was also a Pearl fan and he's a hip hop producer in Australia,
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really really nice, talented, beautiful man. Uh And I asked him if
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he could put some beats on it, and that's sort of when everything fell
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in place for me. That's when I thought, Okay, this, this,
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this is different. But it's it's it's beautiful and it's catchy, and
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it's yeah, this can work for me. So ye doesn't And I mean,
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yeah, that'sn't justice. That was the phrase I was looking for.
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So I mean, I hope, I hope people will like it. Obviously
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it's not the original, but it's not supposed to be. So this is
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our version of of Pearl, and we we like it. I like it
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a lot. I like it a lot. Yeah, I was a little
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bit, you know, like bringing into the kind of those kind of beats.
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I mean, something that obviously Extoll would never have done, and even
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Rada. I mean it's it's not a typical Rada move to do either.
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So but I really just when I love it. Okay, So we have
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we have Extoll playing at Furnace Fest and and again we know that you're not
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going to be there just to clarify everything for everyone, is there. There's
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no bad blood, there's no there's no like oh I hate Oli and the
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other guys. And although we would understand if you do, I mean,
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I mean, those rats can go burning hell you heard it on the Black
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Sheep podcast. I mean, ext we we have we have had so many
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requests for live gigs over the last I don't know, almost the last time
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we played live two thousand and seven or something. Six well, we played
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in twy fourteen. But other than that, I mean, and I just
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I don't want to do live anymore. But David and I also Christer,
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I mean, they want to do it, and to me, I'm I'm
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just please do it because I see that it means I love to you,
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so go just just do it. I really really support it. And yeah,
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so I'm super happy that they turned Yeah, but they said yes,
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and that elishah Is is stepping in. I think it's perfect. And they
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are also doing a show in Europe now, so I mean, yeah,
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all good, those rats, It's all good. Those rats well, and
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your replacement is really freaking talented too. I'ming his name now, but he
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you know, he plays lovely and he is so good. Yeah, yeah,
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Alasha is awesome. I mean he's got a great screaming voice. So
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it's gonna be perfect. It's gonna be great. Yeah, I know it's
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It's one of the more look forward to performances at Furnace Vest this year,
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So you know, hats off to those guys. Uh, we're excited to
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go see them, and uh uh we wish you were there, but we
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totally understand, especially sitting where you're sitting right now. I'd be like,
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you know what, I got to go tend to my my dog and my
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cat and my cow and and all that stuff. No, I mean,
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yeah, it's a long story, and maybe we can do it in the
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in the third interview we have the third chats, but yeah, maybe fine
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by us. I've got a couple more questions about her the new album.
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Colin at the beginning mentioned cinematic, and that really was the first I like,
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that's the first thought that I had when I first heard it too,
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and obviously I even you know, knew that from like the first couple of
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singles you guys released. What was the motivation around trying to make something that
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sounded like it could have been a part of like, uh, like it
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could have been a part of like a soundtrack. What was the motivation around
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that. It's just very natural for me and Osmond. I mean Osman is
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a film maker director, and when I create music, I have a very
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visual way of creating it, telling a story through I mean, with with
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those visuals as a foundation. So I mean, yeah, it was just
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really natural and a little bit it wasn't really planned, ah for it to
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become that much strings and orchestration and stuff like that. I mean, I've
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never done it before, and Austin has never done it before. So we
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just tried it on I guess on Ghost Bloke, you know, to put
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in some strings, and then we're like, well, this is fun.
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Arranging the strings is fun. And then we found this guy in London that
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you know, helped us out, you know, recording the live strings and
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everything, and that process was just so much fun and also challenging, and
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it's like, Okay, we can build on this, and then you know,
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after a while it was just like yeah, obviously obviously this album is
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over the top, right, I Mean, there's way too much things happening
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all the time, with all the strings and all the vocals and and just
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like piling on, piling on. So that was the beauty and the fun
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for us to show just Okay, let's dive into this and see like what
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can we create? Yeah so, but I mean him coming from the film
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background and its to it's just just became very natural to have that kind of
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expression. Yea, yeah, I bet there's like probably like fifty plus tracks
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in each song. Like if you look at like the much it's much more.
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It's much more more. I mean fifty is just the strings, oh
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my god. Yeah, and then you have like I don't know that the
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worst trying not to extend it somewhere between to eight the vocal tracks with all
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the all the yeah like dubbings and all, and like just the amount of
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gigabytes per file has got to be nuts. It's ridiculous. But uh,
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I mean that's like let's have like a whole computer just to like hole like
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just to store each Herada album. Yeah, but I mean, yeah,
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it's this, this is just like our our dream, like this is I
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don't think I could have done this with anyone else. You don't do something
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that much like like the the the complete opposite of less is more, and
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I love it because that's a little bit me as a person. I'm not
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the lesses more kind of guy. Like when I drink beer, it's it's
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like the Belgian Triple with the ten percent alcohol. I mean that's like it's
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big, it's it's high alcohol. Like that's that's my my favorite beer.
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Right, Yeah, I'm that kind of guy. So are you also saying
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that maybe you're they have like the beginning of alcoholism as well. Is that
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what you're trying to say? Yeah, more is more. I try to
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limit the amounts of consume. Well that's good. Just consume yeah, like
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yeah, And it's the same like with coffee and everything. I mean I
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just, you know, just buy the really good cough that I like,
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Like it's way too expensive, but then I drink one cup a day and
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I'm all good, then you're good to go. I like that. I
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like that. Something I think also kind of lends itself to that, that
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cinematic lush quality. Is that? And I don't know if this is intentional.
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And I don't know how much like music theory, you know, because
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I know almost none. But it seems like you guys are using like different
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different scales than what you generally hear in in most music these days, especially
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Western music. And I don't, again, like I don't know anything about
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music theory, but I do know that there are there's there's some scales that
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are being used there that are not what we generally consider like the norm.
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And I was curious if that was something that was thought about beforehand, or
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if that was just something that you're like, hey, let's spice us up,
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let's make something a little bit different than than what people usually hear.
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That's a very easy question for me to answer because I don't know, like
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a single note, I don't I have no no music theory inside me,
27:32
so when i'm orchestra, like, can you imagine having no theory and just
27:36
putting together like an orchestra? Yeah, that sounds so hard, but I
27:41
have a lot of music inside of me in my heart, and with today's
27:47
technical and digital tools, it's so easy for me to just sort of print
27:59
what I inside here, just put it out on a media keyboard and then
28:04
So I have no idea what the scales we are, but I know we
28:07
do different stuff than a lot of other I think this is a unique album
28:11
and I think that's also with extole. I mean, we have never been
28:15
known for making traditional harmonies and melodies and songs, right, so I think
28:22
it's just a part of me and us and sort of environment. But we
28:26
have grown up into that makes us great things. You know. I don't
28:30
know that's common or yeah. Well, and that that's actually something I wanted
28:33
to mention was that I think the reason that people kind of feel like they
28:37
have or that Herada has this kind of extral vibe at times is because of
28:44
those those melodies that are just a little bit different than what most people hear.
28:48
And I absolutely love it when you when you're making those melodies, is
28:52
that something like you would like sing out first where you might like kind of
28:55
like find where where that melody should sound and then you try to replicate it
28:59
or or is it something that you just go right to the MIDI keyboard and
29:02
you just find it out there. For the vocal melodies, I usually sing
29:06
it out, so I'll have sort of like the foundation, like the yeah,
29:11
orchestration or the you know, the drums or keys or whatever, and
29:15
it's sort of like put put a foundation there and then I just start singing
29:21
it out. That's how I do is usually I love it, and sometimes
29:25
I will have like a melody is not gonna, you know, in my
29:26
head when I'm driving a car and then have to record it on the phone.
29:30
But that's that's quite the real that that happens to me. I usually
29:33
sort of create while in the process making the process. Yeah, for sure,
29:41
Mason, what was your question? Oh, I was going to ask
29:44
something entirely different, but I do have one question around kind of just like
29:47
songwriting for you, you know, it's been so many years since you've been
29:52
with Extell, do you and now you've been writing with Karata for a few
29:57
years, Like, do you ever catch yourself like in the process of like,
30:00
you know, you stumble on like an idea or whatever, and you're
30:03
like, wait, that's probably more of an extal idea than a Herada idea.
30:07
Or are you like so removed from Extell now that you're like only in
30:11
a Herada mode and every idea that comes to you is simply Herada, I
30:17
would say the last Yeah, Okay. The thing is that I never really
30:23
wrote a lot of stuff for extall, So the things that I've been writing
30:29
earlier in my life has been more yeah, not text all kind of music.
30:34
Obviously, I've written every fair in there, and I've contributed on the
30:37
vocal melodies and the obviously the screaming and everything like that, but I haven't
30:41
been sort of like one of the main writers for extol. So yeah,
30:45
no, it's it's very, very just into the rada mode. But actually,
30:52
when I wrote the song called Tainted Mirror, which is one of the
30:56
last songs on the album, by the way, my favorite song on the
30:57
album, it I'm so glad to hear because it's sort of like far down
31:03
there, and I think that probably some people will not listen to it because,
31:07
like you know, always in the album is like something happens and you
31:11
don't until listen to everything or something like that. But that when when I
31:15
wrote that, I had actually, if not at least sort of I put
31:18
myself into a so so that has a little bit that was quite clearly for
31:26
me like, okay, let's see if I take this mentality into this rather
31:32
mentality what happens and happened? Interesting, that's even the double batrons on the
31:38
end there, if you have have it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful, very
31:45
reminiscent as well. Yeah, thank you. I don't know what reminiscent means,
31:51
but thank you. Ah. Reminiscent means, uh, having warm feelings
31:56
about a good memory in the past. Yeah right, okay, I know
32:05
the word. Peter. Time for the most difficult question of I gotta go,
32:13
guys, you top five guilty pleasures, So the artists that you would
32:24
be embarrassed that other people know that you kind of like, or you kind
32:29
of listen to every once in a while, or maybe you're a full fledged
32:31
fan. Who knows. Okay, So my problem is I'm really bad at
32:38
names and the titles and stuff like that. But there is there is this
32:44
song called Daydream. Okay. By this, I think she was like an
32:49
idol. Uh yeah, maybe not a winner, but yeah, either in
32:55
America or in the UK and uh. And the song is Daydream and I
33:00
don't I don't even remember what her name is, Yeah, dude, because
33:05
I mean it's a really powerful song I actually talking about, not like,
33:10
don't quit your daydream? Is it? Is it? Lily Meola? Yeah,
33:20
it's a beautiful and powerful song about you know, daring to to go
33:27
go with your dreams. But that's great, Yeah it is. So everybody
33:35
take a listener. And that's my guilty pleasure number one when it comes to
33:38
comes to music. What else, what else? See, that's the problem.
33:44
I don't really have many guilty pleasures because I mean I'm a I don't
33:49
think like anything is really guilty. Yeah, that's what most people say,
33:52
but we don't let them get off the hook that easy. Okay, so
34:00
out there, all right? How about how about one of your contemporaries.
34:05
How about like from your early days, maybe a band that that you toured
34:12
with or something like that that just didn't have the best reputation but you still
34:15
really liked them. But I mean, it's not guilty pleasures, Like it's
34:20
just like when it was how it was back in the days, you know,
34:22
like you know, loving loving Petra when I was supporting. That's not
34:27
a guilty pleasure. Yes, oh yeah. Beyond Belief is one of the
34:35
best songs ever created. Exactly the pleasure number two that is, that is
34:39
like the definition of a guilty pleasure. Okay, great, well well,
34:43
actually I listened to Beyond Belief two weeks ago. We had a party here
34:46
with some neighbors, and one of them he had never heard about Petra before,
34:52
and the last party we had like some months ago. We introduced him
34:55
to Beyond Belief and Pet and he has been listening to it. No,
35:00
I mean Pet himself a new like huge fan in a way that's kind he's
35:08
forty years too late. Yeah, I love it. That's awesome. That
35:16
is awesome. That's that's my top two. I guess that counts as five,
35:20
doesn't it. Let's let's go at least one about one more, at
35:24
least one. Petro was a good one, man, I was I've been
35:28
waiting for a Petra call here. That was a good one. Let's see.
35:34
Okay. I don't know if I mean, if anyone thinks that's I
35:37
think actually we talked about this last time time. But Billie Eilish, I
35:40
mean I'm a huge fan. I think that huge man. Yeah, if
35:45
that counts, well Ilish, we'll count that. Yeah. Yeah. It's
35:50
always a little bit strange when how how old are you? Olie? Are
35:53
you thirty eight? Forty? Peter sorry, yeah, I'm sorry, Peter
36:00
Broaly, I'm forty three, Yeah, forty three. So it's always a
36:05
strange one of forty three year olds listening to like a nineteen year old,
36:07
right, Yeah, A little bit yeah, yeah, not that it's yeah,
36:13
not meaning anything by that, that's not what I mean, but like,
36:15
no, no, no, no, I mean it is like super
36:19
popular pop music. But also it does sound a lot different than a lot
36:22
of other kind of bubblegum pop music. It feels like the the like antithesis
36:29
of bubblegum pop music. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I
36:34
think she I mean, like her first first, the first couple of things
36:37
that she released that when sort of big. It's, I don't know,
36:43
something of the best pop I've heard in my life. I agree. I
36:45
agree, Although at the same time, I'd be very embarrassed if I was
36:49
pulled up at a stoplight and you know, me with my like tattoos and
36:52
everything. I look over and there's like an old lady or you know,
36:55
a high school kid staring at me as I'm like jamming out to Billy Eilish,
37:00
I'd be a little bit embarrassed. Like, I don't know if I'm
37:04
like that comfortable, that comfortable with my own skin, you know, so
37:07
you the pleasure, We'll take it. I have one more actually, and
37:10
that's a that's a beauty, that's a that's a catchy one. It makes
37:16
me want to dance. Umbrella by Rihanna Elliott. Oh, I mean you
37:25
that are way better at this time? You realize I love it? Yeah,
37:30
these are all great. Oh that's a great song. Oh we've like
37:35
me and my wife and a couple of friends, we've been uh yeah,
37:37
we've been loving that song for ages. Wasn't she she was the Super Bowl
37:42
performer this last year? Right? Mm hmm. I don't know. Well,
37:45
yeah, he probably wouldn't understand, because yah, you probably wouldn't know.
37:47
But super Bowl is that kind of like a sports or something. Yeah?
37:55
Is that on the ice with the stuff? Yeah, that is Yep.
38:00
They win. They win by scoring home runs. Actually, my my,
38:09
my, my son plays baseball and my oldest football, and my middle
38:15
son he plays American football, and really no one, nobody plays those sports
38:20
in Norway. So when you guys are Americans, aren't you? Yeah,
38:23
with a barbecue and no. But I mean when when when they have baseball
38:30
matches, you have to sort of combine what do you call it? Baseball
38:37
games. I'm gonna go out on the baseball pitch today, so when we
38:45
have baseball matches, I'm trying to score some goals. No, they have
38:52
to actually combine three or four teams to be able to be enough people to
38:58
actually play a game. Wow. So yeah, that's kind of like from
39:02
from three or four different cities. So okay, this city and this other
39:07
city will combine the teams, and you know, those two cities will combine
39:09
team, and then we are enough people to play to play one game.
39:13
Yeah like pay well, yeah exactly. So it's kind of so. So
39:15
all we need then is for your son and his baseball team to get good
39:20
enough to play in the Major League Baseball. Uh, so that we can
39:24
actually have a World Series instead of just an American or North American series.
39:30
Yeah. And actually even worse is American football, Like like, uh,
39:37
my son played for five months or four months and there was one to four
39:43
players on practice every time. Oh my gosh, it's true. It's true.
39:51
That would be so difficult to do. And I was I was like,
39:54
are we really doing this like he thought it was He thought it was
39:59
fun, and the coach is like, yeah, it's been like this forever,
40:01
so he didn't really care. Uh and then and then he quits,
40:06
but now he wants to join again because he just probably he was too much
40:08
fun. So he wants to was it was it tackle football? What do
40:15
you mean by that, like like when you when you hit another guy.
40:17
Yeah, they were practicing everything like tackles and really and even even tactics like
40:23
you know, but yeah, that's cool. I feel like that's a sport
40:28
almost designed for uh for for Scandinavians. Yeah, I think it could be
40:34
big, but I mean there's no money in it, so I mean here
40:37
football or soccer as you would say, it's like that's the only mainstream thing
40:42
and all the money goes into into that even isoka. I mean, and
40:45
Norway should be great to ice Okay we have never were like we don't build
40:49
build any rings, so no one is playing so weird to me. Yeah,
40:54
it's another sport that should totally be a Norwegian thing. Yeah that's wild.
41:00
What is ice hockey like something that you guys would even like do just
41:04
recreate recreationally to like play, you know, like you've got the big fjord
41:07
in the background, Like do you you know, when it's when it's all
41:10
ice and everything in the winter, do you guys like just go out and
41:15
shoot the puck around or is that like not something you guys do on the
41:17
ice. I did that when I was younger, like in my when I
41:22
was a kid then, especially when I was like in junior high and stuff
41:25
like that. I went out like every day and played ice. Okay,
41:29
but not so many people do. They will play band it. I don't
41:31
know if you know band but it's just so you're playing on ice. It's
41:36
a much bigger goal, like so almost like a soccer goal, bit smaller
41:39
or like a handball goal. And then you have a round ball like this,
41:46
and the stick is not like a l like in hockey, but it's
41:52
more like a yeah, sort of like a j or Sure. Interesting,
41:59
that sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, is that something like?
42:02
That's similar to broomball? Right, Colin? Have you played broomball? Colin?
42:07
Hockey? Do you have that? We have lacrosse? Oh, field
42:12
hockey like field hockey, because that's with a ball and everything and and a
42:16
little bit different stick, isn't it. Yeah, that makes sense. That's
42:19
probably that's probably pretty close to what it is. Yeah, it's not a
42:22
very popular sport here. I've played broom ball. I've played broomball though,
42:25
where it's like it's kind of like what you're describing, where it's more of
42:29
just a stick and then you have a ball, but you are on the
42:31
ice, right, Okay, and we play this well, I don't know
42:37
what you call it, the sport that Harry Potter plays quidditch. Yeah,
42:40
yeah, so we we play that then and actually like fly around. Yeah
42:45
it makes sense. Yeah, that's the Norwegian black metal black magic. Right.
42:52
Yeah, that gets you to do that. I love it. Well,
42:58
uh, Peter, what would you like you what would you like to
43:00
plug here? Well, obviously the new Rada album called Mirrorland. Yeah,
43:09
I would love if people want to check it out. I mean, this
43:13
is my my new new baby, so I mean, yeah, I'm really
43:19
happy with, you know, being back in music and I'm I'm just yeah,
43:23
it's it's so like a never ending creativity. Still. I think I
43:29
said that to you guys like two years ago, and it's still just it's
43:32
like overwhelming. So basically the only thing I want to do this is still
43:37
is just to make music. So check out Rada and if you are in
43:39
the US, go see Extoll by a Furnace first in whenever it is September,
43:45
October, November, yeah and September right, So yeah, thanks thanks
43:51
for having me again, is uh real? Quick? Is is there more
43:55
horata on the horizon? Are you still? Are you recording more stuff right
43:59
now as we speak, Beautiful, I'm every day writing your stuff, and
44:05
I don't know, maybe I should. I could say it here. I
44:07
haven't said there will be a Christmas EP. I will said, I'll put
44:10
it out in the real the world like all originals or are they going to
44:15
be reimagined songs that most people would know already? Both? Both? Oh
44:22
wow, that sounds like fun. So I'll put it out there. And
44:27
when I say a Christmas EP, I'm hoping for Christmas twenty twenty three,
44:30
but who knows. Beautiful twenty four five, No, I'm quite sure.
44:36
I mean I haven't put a lot of work into it already, so okay,
44:38
I think yeah, I think there will be a November release. I'm
44:43
pretty sure. Perfect. Also, one last thing, is there a place
44:46
to get rat a merchandise or anything like that soon? I hope. So.
44:54
I mean, like these day and age, you can obviously sort of
44:59
have sprint on demand kind of solutions, which makes it a lot easier.
45:04
So I think that's probably what we'll do. Try to find a good solution
45:07
for that because I mean and also just want to wait a little bit to
45:10
see, like is there any interest, Like I mean, yeah, this
45:14
is our first album, not that many people have heard about yet, but
45:19
yeah, I would like to to put something out there. We made some
45:22
some cups and a couple of shirts like when we did the gas Bloke release
45:25
and stuff like that, so that they had like forgiveaways and stuff like that.
45:30
But yeah, it would be cool to make some news, so I
45:31
think we'll do that. Sweet, I would I would love a shirt.
45:35
So and actually I think the American label that releases this in the US,
45:40
Mythic Panda Records, I think they also are actually going to print some stuff.
45:45
So yeah, and there is a deluxe CD version being released on Mythic
45:53
Panda Records. I almost forgot that because so, yeah, it's on their
45:57
table, but it's already now we like you at the beginning of July or
46:00
something like that. Oh wow, know when when this will air? But
46:05
so there will be a relaxt version with all the songs instrumental beautiful, awesome.
46:14
That's gonna be cool. M that'll be like study music. Then Yeah,
46:20
yeah, I love it. Hey, Peter, thank you so much,
46:22
man, this has been great. We love having you on. Thank
46:25
you for the spectacular view. Thank you for kind of letting us into your
46:30
life a little bit, showing us your barbecue pit, tell us about RATA.
46:32
We love it. We we want to continue to support you guys in
46:37
whatever way possible because we're massive fans in every way. So thank you so
46:43
much, Thanks so much for having me again. And yeah, really appreciate
46:46
it. I mean awesome. Yeah, as I said, for us,
46:49
like you know, to me, it feels like starting all on scratch again
46:52
right when you do something completely new. So, you know, having guys
46:57
like you who actually others to have a hasten to help us reach out to
47:02
really really appreciate. Thank you. Awesome, well, thank you, Thank
47:06
you man,