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Justice for Gannon Stauch as Evil Step Mommy Gets Life · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last days, finally
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Speaker 1: justice for eleven year old boy Gannon Stought. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Foxination and Serious XM one eleven so called
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Speaker 1: resentful Colorado stepmom, Letitia Stouch is guilty. Listen. It is
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Speaker 1: the verdict.
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Speaker 2: A local family has been waiting to hear for more
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Speaker 2: than three years, and tonight they got their justice. The
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Speaker 2: jury in the murder trial of Letitia Stout found her
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Speaker 2: guilty on all counts for murdering her steps on Gannon
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Speaker 2: in January of twenty twenty.
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Speaker 3: It was a very emotional day for all the Stout
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Speaker 3: family as many of the family members were wearing blue,
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Speaker 3: that was Gannon's favorite color. As the verdict was being red,
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Speaker 3: you could hear and see the emotions coming from the
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Speaker 3: entire Stock family.
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Speaker 1: You were just hearing our forensic KOAA NBC five guilty.
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Speaker 1: I'm murdering little Gannon in one of the worst cases
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Speaker 1: of child abuse and child to murder I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: Letitia Stotch finally found guilty and the murder of little Gannon.
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Speaker 1: Guilty of stabbing him eighteen times shooting him, dumping him,
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Speaker 1: after putting his body in a suitcase. How did the
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Speaker 1: whole thing unfold? Take a listen to this.
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Speaker 4: The community holding out hope that Gannon will be found.
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Speaker 4: They've been tying up blue ribbons around the neighborhood, Gannon's
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Speaker 4: favorite color, and distributing and posting flyers like this. Gannon
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Speaker 4: has brown hair and brown eyes. He's eleven years old.
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Speaker 4: He's four nine and weighs ninety pounds. Was last scene
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Speaker 4: wearing a blue jacket and jeans. And we spoke with
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Speaker 4: Gannon's dad on Tuesday and night, and he told us
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Speaker 4: his son was last scene between three fifteen and four
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Speaker 4: on Monday afternoon, that he was going to a friend's house,
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Speaker 4: but didn't say which friend. The dad tells us when
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Speaker 4: Gannon didn't return home a few hours later, that's when
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Speaker 4: police were called. Now a little after ten on Tuesday,
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Speaker 4: the Olfaso County Sheriff's Office showed up at Gannon's home.
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Speaker 4: Law enforcement were at the home and appeared to be
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Speaker 4: searching in the backyard with some flashlights.
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Speaker 1: You were just hearing our forensic KOAA NBC five. That
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Speaker 1: was reporter Katie Blaze. You know when you look in
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Speaker 1: your backyard and you see police and volunteers searching with
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Speaker 1: a flashlight. Can you imagine not knowing for your eleven
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Speaker 1: year old child is reporting him missing? Sparked off an
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Speaker 1: intensive search, but I can't help. But notice they started
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Speaker 1: the search in the backyard of the home with me
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Speaker 1: an all star panel. Jason Oceans, veteran trial lawyer, joining
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Speaker 1: me today out of New York but practices in multiple jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: Former FBI Special agent Jeff Cortesi, director of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum, forensic psychiatrist at doctor Daniel
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Speaker 1: Bober on Instagram. Doctor Daniel Bober joining me out of
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Speaker 1: the Florida jurisdiction. Investigative reporter Crime online dot Com, Lee Egan,
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Speaker 1: and also Dave Matt Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I want to start at A and then go to
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Speaker 1: Z first. I want to hear the mechanics of how
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Speaker 1: this little boy somehow goes missing. Dave Matt give it
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Speaker 1: to me in a nutshell, repeat nutshell.
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Speaker 5: On January twenty seventh, Tisha Stock says gannon whoa.
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Speaker 1: Whoa, WHOA? I d id for me? When you say
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Speaker 1: Tisha Stock, that is Gannon's stepmother. Correct, she lived in
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Speaker 1: the home with him in his father. Yes, no, yes,
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Speaker 1: ma'am okay.
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Speaker 5: Stepmother Tisia Stock calls police when Bannon ostensibly does not
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Speaker 5: come home after going to a friend's house. When police
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Speaker 5: set her down to get a statement find out what happened,
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Speaker 5: she said that Gannon left their home that afternoon between
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Speaker 5: three pm and four pm to walk to a neighbor's
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Speaker 5: home to play.
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Speaker 1: Okay, stop right there, I'm gonna come back to you.
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt with me, Dave Mattcrime Online dot Com investigative reporter. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, Director, Cold Case Research Institute, you've heard of
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Speaker 1: these free range children? Now. I was a free range
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Speaker 1: child because both my parents were at work all day long.
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Speaker 1: My dad at the railroad, my mom at a canning plant.
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Speaker 1: So when we got home from school, we got ourselves
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Speaker 1: in and after we did homework, I would take off
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Speaker 1: on my bike and I wouldn't come home till I
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Speaker 1: heard the chimes and the church steeple, or my mom
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Speaker 1: or dad on the car horn. That was a signal
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Speaker 1: to come home right now. So we were raised that way,
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Speaker 1: but it's not like that anymore, to just have your
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Speaker 1: child walk to a friend's house and then you don't
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Speaker 1: know when they're coming back, and then they don't show
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Speaker 1: up and you have no idea what happened. I know
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Speaker 1: the Free Rangers are going to get mad at me,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, But that's crazy talk.
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Speaker 6: Well, the other issue here, Nancy, is he supposedly stayed
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Speaker 6: home sick from school that day. So if he had
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Speaker 6: been sick all day, as soon as the other children
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Speaker 6: get home, as usually not when any parent is going
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Speaker 6: to let him go play.
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Speaker 1: Well, if he was sick at home from school, why
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Speaker 1: did he go to a friend's house much less on
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Speaker 1: his own? Dave Matt Crime Online pick it up right there.
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Speaker 1: So he walks to a friend's house and when it's
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Speaker 1: time for him, did he have a set time to
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Speaker 1: come home?
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Speaker 5: He did. He was supposed to be home by about it.
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Speaker 5: He was supposed to be home by about six pm? Okay,
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Speaker 5: and he did. That's when you alert went out.
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Speaker 1: Is that dark at that time? Jan twenty seven? I
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Speaker 1: would assume that six pm is starting to get dark.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would already be pitch dark. Actually, So I
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Speaker 5: went down about five point fifteen do you know that
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Speaker 5: time Mountain time zone? All right, having a list in
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Speaker 5: that zone, know that time.
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Speaker 1: So he doesn't show up, and right.
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Speaker 5: He's not home in time. And so when out when
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Speaker 5: Gannont's father Albert gets home and Gannon's not their stepmom says,
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Speaker 5: well he went what they call police, and the police
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Speaker 5: they treated as if Gannon is a runaway.
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to something I
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Speaker 1: find very intriguing. Let me just call it intriguing. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our forends at KKTVCBS eleven Spencer Wilson.
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Speaker 7: I'm just ready for Gannon to come home, most importantly
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Speaker 7: for him to see his family. But second, I am
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Speaker 7: going to be so ecstatic when I'm able to say
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Speaker 7: to people that I hope they have a really sincere
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Speaker 7: apology for all these series that have came out online,
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Speaker 7: for all the things they said that I have done
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Speaker 7: or people have done. And I just want everyone to
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Speaker 7: know that we're going to find Gannon. And I love
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Speaker 7: him so much. I have helped taking care of him
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Speaker 7: for so long.
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Speaker 4: You talked to me a little bit about him.
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Speaker 5: I don't know one.
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Speaker 7: Gannon is so kind and he loves to play video games.
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Speaker 7: That's one of his favorite things. He loves Sonic and Mario.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he's always helpful.
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Speaker 7: And he was always so helpful with the dogs around
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Speaker 7: the house and we have two little key dogs, and
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Speaker 7: he was always like a person. I could say, Gann
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Speaker 7: and can you go do this? And he would do
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Speaker 7: it right away. You know, sometimes with kids we have
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Speaker 7: to remind him and things like that, and that's okay.
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Speaker 7: But he was so sweet and able to help anyone.
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Speaker 7: He could notice when you're sick and say are you okay?
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Speaker 7: And such a kind heart.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that? You're hearing this? Stepmother? Letitius thought,
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Speaker 1: you know what, you just can't change your nature. You can't.
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Speaker 1: And I used to tell Jurie's a story in closing
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Speaker 1: argument about mister Froggy and mister Scorpion. Scorpion comes up
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Speaker 1: to Froggy says, hey, can I ride your back across
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Speaker 1: the river? And mister Scorpion says, no, you'll bite me
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Speaker 1: in I'll die. And Scorpion says, no, I want because
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Speaker 1: we both go to the bottom of the river and
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Speaker 1: we'll both die. Froggy thinks it over and gives them
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Speaker 1: a ride halfway across, mister Froggy feels a pain go
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Speaker 1: down his arm, and as he's sinking to the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the river to die with Scorpion on his back,
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Speaker 1: he said, why did you do that? For now we
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Speaker 1: both will die, and mister Scorpion says, I can't help it.
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Speaker 1: It's just my nature. To doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist
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Speaker 1: joining me out of Florida. Did you hear the stepmother
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Speaker 1: start talking about how she Gannon's missing, and she's talking
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Speaker 1: about she wants an apology and starts referring to Gannon
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Speaker 1: in the past tense. She begins, he is, he is,
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Speaker 1: he is, and then she switches to he was always
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Speaker 1: so helpful, he was so so sweet. Did you hear that, Bober?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I heard it, Nancy. I mean any situations, you know,
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Speaker 8: you always start in and you work your way out.
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Speaker 8: So it definitely is very concerning, for sure.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bober, you sound like a psychiatrist, and I don't
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Speaker 1: mean that in a good way. Right now, you said
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Speaker 1: it's concerning. The boy is gone. The stepmother who was
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Speaker 1: with him that day is worried about herself getting an
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Speaker 1: apology because people have questioned her child rearing mode her
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Speaker 1: child rearing tactics. She's worried about an apology when her
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Speaker 1: child is missing. Don't make me tell you the story
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Speaker 1: about when John David went missing and babies or us,
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Speaker 1: because I will. I did not care who looked at
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Speaker 1: me in my horrible outfit and my old tennis shoes,
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Speaker 1: screaming for John David to lock the doors. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: find him. I didn't care what anybody thought. Why she's
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Speaker 1: so worried about an apology?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, at the very least, it seems like
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Speaker 8: her priorities are a little bit misplaced at that point.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special agent, you've seen it all.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of what Stepmommy is saying she
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Speaker 1: wants an apology and then starts speaking about the child
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Speaker 1: in the past tense.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, absolutely, Nancy. I mean it jumps right out
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Speaker 9: at you. When as soon as she starts speaking very
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Speaker 9: odd behavior, immediately talking about herself, she's very kind of comfortable,
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Speaker 9: doesn't seem as concerned at least over the audio version,
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Speaker 9: and then speaking of the young man in past tense,
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Speaker 9: those are all going to be.
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Speaker 1: She's a baby, She's not even a young man. He's
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Speaker 1: a baby. He's eleven years old. Time stories with Nancy
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Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us. A so called
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Speaker 1: resentful stepmother, Letitia Start, after months and months of lying,
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Speaker 1: has been found guilty by a jury in the murder
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Speaker 1: a first step son, eleven year old Gannon. It pains
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Speaker 1: me to think of what this little boy lived through
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Speaker 1: before he died. I want you to hear more of
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Speaker 1: what stepmom says. Take a listen to KKTV CBS eleven
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Speaker 1: reporter Spencer Williams.
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Speaker 8: Do you feel like these are just internet detectives who
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Speaker 8: think they know what they're doing.
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Speaker 7: It definitely is. And you know, here's the thing that
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Speaker 7: kind of saddens me. It's like, if you're gonna talk
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Speaker 7: about someone like that and have a wit tone out
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Speaker 7: for them, why would you even care like about doing
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Speaker 7: those things? Because this is a child. You're telling me
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Speaker 7: that you're just as mean, You're just as hateful to
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Speaker 7: talk about someone else like that. That's how I feel
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Speaker 7: like we just should not We welcome together and wait
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Speaker 7: until the end and see what happens, because Gannon's going
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Speaker 7: to come home.
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Speaker 1: Any message for Gannon, the.
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Speaker 7: Message for Gannon I have is Gannon, when you get
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Speaker 7: here and you'll be able to truly tell what happened.
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Speaker 7: And then I really hope I get a sincere apology
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Speaker 7: from everyone who has made all those things, especially for
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Speaker 7: my husband.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Cheryl McCollum, Director cole Case Investigative Research Institute, that's
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Speaker 1: quite a mouthful, Okay, Cheryl McCollum. You know what. I
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Speaker 1: know that there are lie detectors.
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Speaker 10: I know that there are behaviorists that watch the movements,
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Speaker 10: the eyeblinks, the movements of the mouth.
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Speaker 1: The phraseology. That's what they do. They're experts. But after
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Speaker 1: putting I don't know how many would you say, three
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Speaker 1: or four or five thousand witnesses on the hot seat.
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Speaker 1: You can tell when someone is all about themselves. And
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Speaker 1: in this case, all she's talking about she's not crying,
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Speaker 1: she's not upset, she's not begging the public for help.
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Speaker 1: She's talking about getting an apology. And that disturbs me.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, Oh, it deserves me.
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Speaker 6: She is clearly made this all about her. She has
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Speaker 6: not asked for the public to help look for him,
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Speaker 6: she has not pleaded for somebody to return him, She
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Speaker 6: has not said anything tearfully to him, like I love
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Speaker 6: you or we're waiting here for you. She just says, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 6: he's gonna come on me. What a he does? All
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Speaker 6: we're gonna apologize to me, back to you.
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Speaker 1: Hold on with me now, Lee Egancrime online dot Com
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter who has been speaking with the stepmother who
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Speaker 1: I guess Lee? Would she would call you sporadically? Is
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Speaker 1: that correct?
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Speaker 11: Yes, Nancy? She would call me from Actually she never
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Speaker 11: gave her phone number. She would call from an email.
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Speaker 1: That you have called ID for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 11: ID, It would come up no caller ID.
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Speaker 1: Interesting.
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Speaker 11: She blocked her number somehow. She wouldn't let me have.
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Speaker 1: Sixty seven, just so you know, go ahead.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, she whatever she did, she made sure that I
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Speaker 11: didn't have her number. But she would call me and
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Speaker 11: we did speak in depth.
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Speaker 1: What are some of the things a stepmother told you?
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Speaker 11: Well, Nancy, she started out telling me exactly what she
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Speaker 11: did that day, Monday, January twenty seventh.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious. What did she do?
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Speaker 11: She said that she took him to go to play
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Speaker 11: it against the mind. You he's homesick from school.
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Speaker 1: So you confirmed that with her that he had been
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Speaker 1: homesick from school. What was his ailment.
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Speaker 11: May I ask stomach ache nausea issues. He was pooping
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Speaker 11: in his hands and then he had bounced between diarrhea
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Speaker 11: and constipation at age eleven agless. She said it was
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Speaker 11: from medication. I guess side effects from a medicaid. But
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Speaker 11: then she added that that he's always had these issues,
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Speaker 11: so it's one or the other. But either way, she said,
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Speaker 11: he was sick stomach ache, so she brought a white bag,
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Speaker 11: a white plastic bag for him to hold in case
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Speaker 11: he had to vomit. And the reason she told me
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Speaker 11: this was because neighbor Roderick Drayton has a surveillance surveillance
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Speaker 11: footage of Gannon holding a white bag in his hand,
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Speaker 11: and she was trying to explain what that was for.
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Speaker 11: So she takes this little boy to play it against sports?
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Speaker 1: Why right, and play it again sport? Yes, it's a youth, right,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, lay Egan.
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Speaker 11: After played against Sports, she says they went to Castle Rock,
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Speaker 11: that's about an hour away from her home in Colorado Springs.
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Speaker 11: They went to Castle Rock to buy a surprise birthday
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Speaker 11: bicycle for her husband Al. He was out of town
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Speaker 11: working at the time.
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Speaker 1: Did she actually buy the bicycle?
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Speaker 11: No, and she actually never bought anything from playing again.
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Speaker 1: Support tell me what does castle Rock? Explain?
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Speaker 11: That it's about an hour away, and she said she
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Speaker 11: took the back roads to get there because there was
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Speaker 11: a wreck on the main highway. Really, now, there was
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Speaker 11: police searching around Douglas County, which is Castle Rock is
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Speaker 11: in Douglas County. Law enforcement and searchers were searching all
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Speaker 11: around that area, and she was putting herself. She was
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Speaker 11: trying to explain to me why her GPS or her
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Speaker 11: Apple smart Watch, because she left her phone at home,
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Speaker 11: why her Apple smart Watch would have pinged in that area.
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Speaker 11: And she's explaining, well, that's simple. We went to Castle
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Speaker 11: Rock to find all a bicycle, you know.
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Speaker 1: At home. Yes, okay, I've got a problem with that,
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Speaker 1: Jason Oshans. You know, I love cell phones. I love
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Speaker 1: cell phones because they can tell me where a defendant went.
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Speaker 1: And here she's left her phone at home, but apparently
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Speaker 1: forgot about her Apple Watch and it pained in that area. Yea,
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Speaker 1: So she takes the sick child, who, as she says,
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Speaker 1: is pooping in his pants. I don't know that. Do
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Speaker 1: you believe that with an eleven year old boy? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess he could, you'd think he could get to
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Speaker 1: the bathroom. But if he's doing that, Jackie, why would she, Jason,
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Speaker 1: why would she take her child an hour away to
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Speaker 1: go shot for a bicycle that they didn't buy. If
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Speaker 1: he's that ill, if he's having diarrhea and throwing up
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Speaker 1: so badly, Man, I'd have John, Dave and Lucy in
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Speaker 1: the bed.
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Speaker 12: You have him in bed, Nancy, you're you're a good mom,
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Speaker 12: and that's the right thing to do. So everything here
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Speaker 12: is breaking protocol, right, Why would you if you if
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Speaker 12: your if your child is is you know, now incontinent
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Speaker 12: because of a diarrhea and throwing up, and you take
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Speaker 12: him out of school. Now you're exposing them to going
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Speaker 12: outside and driving a distance. None of it makes sense. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 12: it's speaking about the past term. None of it fits man.
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Speaker 1: So Lee again, you're telling me she left her cell
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Speaker 1: phone at home, but she forgot about her Apple Watch
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Speaker 1: and it pinged in that area. So she's explained to
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Speaker 1: you why she's there.
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Speaker 11: Yes, she's assumed it pinged in the area because they
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Speaker 11: were searching all over the exact area she drove through.
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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I'm trying to assimilate everything you're saying.
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Speaker 1: So if she goes shopping, I assume that there's surveillance
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Speaker 1: video of her looking at bicycles and a shopping and
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Speaker 1: a mall, or at a sports store.
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Speaker 11: She never stopped. She said, we went to see about it,
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Speaker 11: but I never actually bought it, so we don't know.
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Speaker 11: She won't She wouldn't even give me the name of
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Speaker 11: the bicycle shop.
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Speaker 1: Bober, Bober, please come come down out of your ivory tower,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist. If I'm giving you my
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Speaker 1: movements and I call you and I say, hey, you're
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Speaker 1: with crime Online, I want to tell you what I
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Speaker 1: did that day, but I've blocked my phone number. I
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Speaker 1: won't tell you which store I went to, or whether
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Speaker 1: I bought anything, or whether I even entered the store.
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Speaker 1: You don't have a problem with that, doctor Bober.
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Speaker 8: Of course, Nancy, listen, there's red flags all over this.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what you want to know, but only
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Speaker 8: what I want to tell you. So I mean, it's
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Speaker 8: very suspicious.
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Speaker 1: Only what I want you to know, Okay, lee E
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Speaker 1: can pick it up.
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Speaker 11: What else, hey, Nancy, Okay, so there was something else too.
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Speaker 11: I forgot to mention she the surveillance footage, you know,
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Speaker 11: circling back around to that, because she was explained. She
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Speaker 11: was explaining to me why, what happened, when and how,
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Speaker 11: just trying to explain her actions the way. She insists
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Speaker 11: that the surveillance footage taken on Monday actually happened on
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Speaker 11: a different day.
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Speaker 1: What survellans footage of the neighbor.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so neighbor Roderick Drayton, he took he had his footage,
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Speaker 11: picks up sound, it picks up everything. It's in color,
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Speaker 11: it's full, it's clear. And he told me that on
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Speaker 11: Monday at ten twenty six am, he sees Gannon looking
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Speaker 11: very sick, looking very drugged, can barely walk to the truck,
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Speaker 11: gets in the truck with Tisha Latitia Stout and leaves
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Speaker 11: to twenty eight I'm sorry to twenty pm. Latitia Stouts
20:16
Speaker 11: returns home alone. Gannon is not with her now. When
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Speaker 11: I spoke to the stepmother, she claimed that that never happened.
20:25
Speaker 11: That back to the white bag. If you look at
20:28
Speaker 11: the white bag in his hand, I gave it to
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Speaker 11: him that day because he was sick. And if you
20:32
Speaker 11: see this other video, he has a white bag. There
20:35
Speaker 11: was another video, but it was on Sunday. So what
20:38
Speaker 11: she's trying to do is she's trying and I you know,
20:41
Speaker 11: it's up to law enforcement that tells the truth. But
20:43
Speaker 11: from the neighbor, he's saying that she's switching the dates up.
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Speaker 1: Evil stepmother Letitia Stout guilty in the murder of step
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Speaker 1: son Gannon, just eleven years old. I can only imagine
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Speaker 1: what this child lived through before his death. Let's take
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Speaker 1: a listen to the neighbor.
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Speaker 13: Roderick Drayton next wall, like that Sunday when they went
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Speaker 13: for Brond of God. I watched them on my video
21:14
Speaker 13: out black playing him and his sister. They were playing
21:15
Speaker 13: outside by the truck. And then when they got ready
21:19
Speaker 13: to leave, her a chief said again and get on
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Speaker 13: one side and Atlanta on the other side. I could
21:23
Speaker 13: hear her kill him. That to that in they left,
21:26
Speaker 13: they came back, he got a truck, he got out
21:28
Speaker 13: of the car and he ran into the house. So
21:30
Speaker 13: he was trying Funday that Monday, when I was just
21:33
Speaker 13: looking through I saw him walking and he just didn't
21:35
Speaker 13: look the same as he did Sunny. So I was like,
21:37
Speaker 13: something isn't right. He doesn't look the same. He looked,
21:39
Speaker 13: you know, I say, he looked drugged or he just
21:41
Speaker 13: just didn't look like the same vibrant kid he did Sunday.
21:44
Speaker 13: He knew when he was when they got back from
21:46
Speaker 13: the Burner of God, because I seen him get in
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Speaker 13: the truck before, you know, just just seeing him in
21:50
Speaker 13: his dad talking Hi, driving office hop right in the
21:52
Speaker 13: truck and Jose the blow and that day it just
21:55
Speaker 13: he just didn't seem like he just seemed like something
21:58
Speaker 13: was bothering him or hurt him. He just didn't see
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Speaker 13: the same kid Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Dave Mack, you got in touch with the neighbor and
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Speaker 1: he told you that and a whole lot more as
22:08
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Take and listen to more of
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Speaker 1: what Roderick Drayton tells our investigative reporter Dave Mack.
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Speaker 13: I went over to his house and I was say, hey,
22:18
Speaker 13: I have a camera that you know that that I
22:20
Speaker 13: could see, you know, if anybody came by and picked
22:22
Speaker 13: them up, you want to watch it? And first thing
22:24
Speaker 13: she said was no, he went to the other the way.
22:26
Speaker 13: He didn't come towards your house. FBI and the cops
22:28
Speaker 13: was one of my acting everybody, so that he could
22:30
Speaker 13: watch the camera and the guy said, look, can I
22:31
Speaker 13: watch yours? And he looked at my exact and didn't
22:33
Speaker 13: go back to Saturday. So he looked back to Saturday
22:36
Speaker 13: and he was just downloading stuff. So my wife and
22:39
Speaker 13: I we went out to the movie came May Come.
22:41
Speaker 13: I was like, why did he go back to Saturday?
22:43
Speaker 13: Something isn't right. So I just when we got back home,
22:45
Speaker 13: I just looked through hundreds and hundred videos and just
22:48
Speaker 13: then I caught that and that was like wow. And
22:50
Speaker 13: the bird thing in the morning, I got up, I
22:52
Speaker 13: knocked doing this door, and I was like, you might
22:54
Speaker 13: want to see the video.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing the neighbor and I find this particular spot
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Speaker 1: to be very very primitive. Take a listen to cut
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Speaker 1: twenty eight jack if.
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Speaker 13: I watched the video at least twenty thirty times. So
23:07
Speaker 13: I took it to an outside her. Let me make
23:08
Speaker 13: sure at first, I watch it owns the tablet. I
23:11
Speaker 13: zoom in, I can zoom in, I can look. I
23:13
Speaker 13: saw no fees I can and I turned it up
23:16
Speaker 13: and I said, okay, let me back get a biting.
23:18
Speaker 13: She get out. She goes to the door grids to open.
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Speaker 13: She gets the alarm and the dark round think nobody
23:24
Speaker 13: get out Oka And I look at it on the TV,
23:26
Speaker 13: so I can you get a bad view? And I
23:28
Speaker 13: put my phone to the TV, so I can you
23:30
Speaker 13: know getting on a better you? And I was like, no,
23:32
Speaker 13: he never got out of the truck. And so when
23:34
Speaker 13: I went over to.
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Speaker 1: It, doctor and showed him straight back out to Lee Egan,
23:37
Speaker 1: Crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter, Lee, explain to me what
23:43
Speaker 1: the neighbor is saying today.
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Speaker 11: So what he's saying is when he saw Tsha come
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Speaker 11: back home on Monday, January twenty seventh, it was about
23:51
Speaker 11: two twenty pm. She got out of that truck alone.
23:55
Speaker 11: Now his camera catches her leaving that morning with Agannon.
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Speaker 11: When she comes home, she's alone. He's nowhere to be found.
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Speaker 11: He has not been seen since.
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Speaker 3: Now.
24:06
Speaker 11: What Tsha Letitia is saying is that Roderick is showing
24:10
Speaker 11: us the wrong video. That he's showing a different day
24:13
Speaker 11: because if it was the same day then that we
24:16
Speaker 11: would have seen Dannon because he did come home with her.
24:20
Speaker 11: And Roderick's trying to explain absolutely not. I have sound,
24:26
Speaker 11: it's in color, it's clear. I know what I saw
24:28
Speaker 11: and I did not seek Ann and get out of
24:30
Speaker 11: that truck, and law enforcement did tell him, thank you,
24:35
Speaker 11: this is the break we needed. So apparently, you know,
24:38
Speaker 11: it's something that has been very helpful in the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Jackie. I want to hear Roderick Drayton in cut twenty
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Speaker 1: two talking about the FBI coming and seizing the video
24:51
Speaker 1: go tourrizating.
24:53
Speaker 13: My family in the garage, just you know, during the
24:55
Speaker 13: summertime working on stuff. But you know, just Casula, you know, Wave,
25:00
Speaker 13: wait about here.
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Speaker 14: Did you reach out to the police or to al
25:03
Speaker 14: first when you realized you had video of Gannon leaving
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Speaker 14: the house?
25:08
Speaker 9: I thought saw.
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Speaker 13: A long answer, So I went over to his house
25:13
Speaker 13: and I showed the video and then once you saw it,
25:16
Speaker 13: he called the FBI and they came over and so
25:20
Speaker 13: maybe or maybe eighty videos that they had recorded.
25:26
Speaker 14: So they got your whole supply of videos on either
25:29
Speaker 14: side of the last video that captured Gannon.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, they have some set problem that batter due until
25:38
Speaker 13: that following week where they have all other day and
25:41
Speaker 13: my phone my camera record twenty fourth seven and never
25:44
Speaker 13: started recording. It's not like it's not like tonight we'll
25:47
Speaker 13: trying to fixed up. They just constant records.
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt with me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter
25:52
Speaker 1: Dave mac didn't he also tell you this is Gannon's
25:56
Speaker 1: neighbor that the camera records constantly. It allows him Roderick
26:01
Speaker 1: to watch on his iPad, his tablet, his TV, his phone.
26:07
Speaker 1: He can zoom in and zoom out of the picture.
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Speaker 1: He can slow mo. He could see who got out
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Speaker 1: of the truck. The video has as Lee was telling
26:16
Speaker 1: a sound. He can actually hear the step mother get
26:21
Speaker 1: out of the truck, set the alarm, shut the garage door,
26:25
Speaker 1: and nobody got out of that truck, but her not Gannon.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely right, Nancy. And that's why the sound actually is
26:34
Speaker 5: very helpful in that because you can hear what Tisha
26:37
Speaker 5: is doing and that Gannon is not there. You can
26:40
Speaker 5: actually hear her opening the garage door, setting the alarm,
26:44
Speaker 5: closing the garage store. You can hear her footsteps as
26:47
Speaker 5: she moves. And again there is only the sound of Letitia.
26:51
Speaker 5: There's never a sound of Gannon.
26:53
Speaker 1: I want you to hear this.
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Speaker 15: There was a road construction worker who found the remains Tuesday.
26:59
Speaker 16: Investigators aren't releasing any details about how the boy died.
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Speaker 15: They say he was killed in Colorado and then taken
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Speaker 15: to Florida.
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Speaker 1: You were just hearing our friend Lance Hernandez at ABC
27:09
Speaker 1: seven News Denver to our special guests joining us from
27:12
Speaker 1: Fox thirty one Denver. This is Nicole Fierro. Nicole, let
27:16
Speaker 1: me start with a very narrow question. Explain to me
27:20
Speaker 1: what you know about how this little boy's body was found.
27:26
Speaker 1: We have all been searching for Gannon, and now the
27:31
Speaker 1: result not what we had hoped for at all, not
27:35
Speaker 1: the outcome we had wished and prayed for. This little
27:39
Speaker 1: boy's body has been found far from home. I understand
27:43
Speaker 1: a row construction worker found his body.
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Speaker 17: Nicole.
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Speaker 7: What happened absolutely and, as you said, not what anyone
27:51
Speaker 7: was wishing or thinking could even be possible at all.
27:54
Speaker 6: We covered search crews scouring all over Colorado for weeks
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Speaker 6: on end, and then this week we hear Florida. Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 6: we did the math.
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Speaker 9: We were calculating how far away it was from here
28:08
Speaker 9: from Myrtle Beach.
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Speaker 1: I talked to my contacts over in Florida.
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Speaker 5: I got their press release about what happened, and it
28:14
Speaker 5: said that.
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Speaker 9: A road construction crew was working in the area right
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Speaker 9: near a bridge.
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Speaker 18: It's Scambia River Bridge and Highway ninety and that's where
28:23
Speaker 18: they found what they believe is again in his.
28:26
Speaker 1: Body, straight out too. Joseph Scott Morgan, it's so important
28:32
Speaker 1: when a body and I can't even imagine finding a
28:35
Speaker 1: little child's body, but when a body is found, how
28:40
Speaker 1: you handle that crime scene, Joe Scott.
28:42
Speaker 17: Why so important because you get you only get one
28:46
Speaker 17: one first time at it. Nancy. You have to be
28:50
Speaker 17: on target with everything that you do. It has to
28:54
Speaker 17: be planned, and you know, I'm hoping that the authorities
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Speaker 17: had an understanding that there was a search on going
29:04
Speaker 17: for a little boy, because it's not that often, as
29:08
Speaker 17: as a crom Sten investigator, that you found a small
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Speaker 17: child like this.
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Speaker 1: Well, Jessica Morgan, if you miss one detail at a
29:17
Speaker 1: crime scene, even a tertiary crime scene, such as the
29:20
Speaker 1: disposal of the body scene, you may lose your case.
29:24
Speaker 1: It's just that simple. So the recovery of this child's
29:27
Speaker 1: body is so so important.
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Speaker 19: Listen in the investigation which ultimately resulted in the rest
29:33
Speaker 19: of Letitia. But I can tell you that this has
29:36
Speaker 19: been I'm a thought of the time consuming multi state
29:39
Speaker 19: operation with investigators working nearly around the clock to find
29:43
Speaker 19: gaining There have been thousands of hours of investigation in
29:48
Speaker 19: search efforts. This includes large scale searches in addition to
29:52
Speaker 19: small specific searches with drones, horses.
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Speaker 13: Canines and other resources.
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Speaker 19: As you can say from the arrest sadly, we do
30:02
Speaker 19: not believe again is alive.
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Speaker 1: This is not what I wanted to report. You were
30:07
Speaker 1: just hearing Passo County Sheriff press conference. That was Lieutenant
30:11
Speaker 1: minch Mahal Coach speaking. They were right in the last hours.
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Speaker 1: The body of this eleven year old boy. I'm looking
30:18
Speaker 1: at his picture right now. He's got in a little
30:21
Speaker 1: plaid shirt, smiling at the camera. His body has been
30:25
Speaker 1: found far far from home in Florida. What happened? How
30:29
Speaker 1: did his body end up that far away? Prime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace for those of you just joining us.
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Speaker 1: Letitious Dat stepmother of Gannon Thoughts, eleven years old, has
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Speaker 1: been found guilty guilty a first degree murder and three
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Speaker 1: other charges. Little Gannon stabbed eighteen times, shot in the head,
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Speaker 1: and dumped over a bridge. Evil stepmother, Letitia Stouch, is
31:18
Speaker 1: said to have felt quote resentful because she believed she
31:24
Speaker 1: was being used as a babysitter babysitting is part of
31:30
Speaker 1: the job description. But I guess you can't order up
31:37
Speaker 1: love from an evil stepmother like Letitia Stalsch. How did
31:43
Speaker 1: the whole thing unfold? Take a listen now to Denver
31:46
Speaker 1: Fox thirty one. For those of you just joining us,
31:49
Speaker 1: this is our friend, Nicole Fierro.
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Speaker 18: Deputies in Florida reported that a construction crew found a
31:56
Speaker 18: juvenile's remains while working near the Escambia River Bridge in
31:59
Speaker 18: Santa Ro County, Florida. Calculating the distance from Gannon and
32:03
Speaker 18: Letitia Stalk's home, that's nearly fourteen hundred miles a twenty
32:07
Speaker 18: plus hour drive. Something leads them to believe the body
32:11
Speaker 18: was in this area of Florida on February third through
32:14
Speaker 18: the fifth. She wasn't arrested until March second in Myrtle Beach,
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Speaker 18: South Carolina. That's nearly seven hundred miles from this Florida
32:22
Speaker 18: location where Gannon was tentatively found. That's a ten hour
32:25
Speaker 18: drive or a three hour flight.
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Speaker 16: Today I filed new formal charges in the case against
32:30
Speaker 16: Letitia Stouck. Those charges are murdering the first degree after deliberation,
32:35
Speaker 16: a class one felony that carries a potential prison sentence
32:40
Speaker 16: of life in prison without parole. In addition to that,
32:43
Speaker 16: I've filed eight counts of crime of violence for the
32:45
Speaker 16: alleged use of a firearm, a blunt instrument, a knife
32:50
Speaker 16: or other sharp object, and for causing the death of
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Speaker 16: Gannon Stouck.
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Speaker 1: You are hearing our friend, the District Attorney in El Paso,
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Speaker 1: the Senior DA, Michael Allen, formal charges now handed down
33:08
Speaker 1: against Letitia Stout first degree murder, potential life without parole,
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Speaker 1: eight other charges for firearm, blunt instrument, knife, and the
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Speaker 1: death of little Gannon Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forswicks, Jacksonville
33:22
Speaker 1: State University. What do the charges tell you?
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Speaker 17: Well, Nancy, I got to tell you, since I started
33:29
Speaker 17: reading these charges, I've really been scratching my head over this.
33:33
Speaker 17: What it tells me is that first off, either this
33:36
Speaker 17: child has multiple injuries that could have been generated by
33:42
Speaker 17: a sharp object, a blunt object or firearm, or his
33:46
Speaker 17: body was in such a condition. I hate to say this,
33:51
Speaker 17: that they couldn't make a specific determination or they're not
33:54
Speaker 17: willing to release that information. My thought is is, and
33:58
Speaker 17: this is one of the thing I was thinking, was
34:03
Speaker 17: Ganon was gannon tortured, I think is one of the
34:08
Speaker 17: things that I'm thinking as well. Was he subjected to
34:12
Speaker 17: a beating in life, a cutting and then he was shot.
34:18
Speaker 17: And it's going to be very important because where the
34:21
Speaker 17: timeline is concerned, did his injuries, some of the injuries
34:25
Speaker 17: that he incurred, did they occur before death, okay, like
34:30
Speaker 17: in a torture scenario. Or did some of these things
34:34
Speaker 17: occur post mortem after death when he was thrown into
34:38
Speaker 17: this estuary that literally flows into the Gulf of Mexico.
34:43
Speaker 17: So it's multi layered. Just as the reporter had mentioned,
34:48
Speaker 17: this is a very very complicated case. You're dealing with
34:51
Speaker 17: multiple jurisdictions.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as we all know, all you legal legals, A
34:55
Speaker 1: murder can be prosecuted either where the person is killed.
34:59
Speaker 1: As the cool Fierro from Fox thirty one Denver accurately
35:02
Speaker 1: pointed out, the charges have been brought in Colorado, which
35:06
Speaker 1: tells me as she also pointed out that they believe
35:09
Speaker 1: the murder occurred on this little boy in Colorado, or
35:14
Speaker 1: charges can be filed where the body is discovered, which
35:17
Speaker 1: would have been in Florida. Then the evidence begins to
35:21
Speaker 1: amask take a listen to our cut thirty eight CBS
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Speaker 1: Denver News reporter Rick Salinger describing what police are finding
35:32
Speaker 1: on Letitious Starches computers.
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Speaker 15: The investigation also revealed the stepmother's Internet searches. One was
35:39
Speaker 15: for husband uses me to babysit his kids. The court
35:44
Speaker 15: document claims Letitius Stout later changed her story that Gannon
35:48
Speaker 15: had run away to that she was raped by an
35:51
Speaker 15: intruder who then kidnapped the boy. Investigators believe Letitious Style
35:59
Speaker 15: then took the body from the Palmer Lake area and
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Speaker 15: drove it to Florida, where she dumped it beneath a bridge.
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Speaker 1: Also listen to Fox twenty one. This is Brandon Thompson.
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Speaker 20: They say Letitia stouckled multiple times. In fact, her story
36:14
Speaker 20: changes dramatically In the.
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Speaker 15: Two days following.
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Speaker 20: They say she tried to clean out the crime scene herself,
36:19
Speaker 20: but investigators found Gannon's blood stained on the cement below
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Speaker 20: his bed. On Monday, January twenty seventh, Letitia Stouk reported
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Speaker 20: Gannon missing at six fifty five pm. In the nine
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Speaker 20: one one call, she had said he had gone to
36:31
Speaker 20: a friend's home and was supposed to be home by
36:33
Speaker 20: six pm. Two days later, she told investigators Gannan was kidnapped,
36:36
Speaker 20: saying a man she allowed in her home to fix
36:38
Speaker 20: carpet had raped her and kidnapped Gannon. Those are two
36:41
Speaker 20: of several lives investigators say Letitia Stout told them the
36:44
Speaker 20: media and Gannon's father, Al Stouk. The day Gannon disappeared,
36:48
Speaker 20: Letitia Stout called Gannon sick out of school. When Gannon's
36:50
Speaker 20: nine year old sister returns home from school, she asked
36:53
Speaker 20: Letitia Stouck where her brother was, and she replied he
36:56
Speaker 20: was asleep in her bed and to go play outside.
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Speaker 20: According to the documents, police believe Gannon was already dead.
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Speaker 20: About an hour later, Letitia sends a text to her
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Speaker 20: seventeen year old daughter, who was at work all day,
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Speaker 20: quote carpet powder, two things, baking soda, trash backs. Investigators
37:10
Speaker 20: believe quote these items were likely to clean up the
37:12
Speaker 20: murder scene.
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Speaker 1: Police search the home three hours after that initial nine
37:18
Speaker 1: to woman call, and at first they don't find anything
37:20
Speaker 1: suspicious that's unusual, but in five subsequent searches they find
37:26
Speaker 1: Gannon's blood in the garage, the trunk of Stepmammy's car,
37:31
Speaker 1: in the basement and bedroom, so much blood that it
37:35
Speaker 1: went through the mattress, leaked through the carpet under the mattress,
37:41
Speaker 1: studying the cement below his bed. Tracking Stout's car, they
37:46
Speaker 1: find she drove to Highway one oh five the day
37:49
Speaker 1: after reporting him missing, staying thirty minutes. Three days later,
37:54
Speaker 1: she goes in a different car where police had placed
37:57
Speaker 1: a tracking device, went to the same air Police find
38:02
Speaker 1: Gannon's blood on a piece of wood in the area
38:05
Speaker 1: where her car went, but not the body. They believe
38:10
Speaker 1: she dumped his body at night, went back to make
38:13
Speaker 1: sure the evidence wasn't viewable from the road, then went
38:16
Speaker 1: back and texting investigators what do you want from me?
38:23
Speaker 1: Eleven year old Gannonstotch is dead. Horrible horrible death, his
38:29
Speaker 1: body decomposing under a bridge thousands of miles away while
38:34
Speaker 1: stepmommy makes up one lie after the next. I can
38:38
Speaker 1: only imagine what this child lived through before his death.
38:43
Speaker 1: Letitia Stauch, stepmother of Gannon Stotch, just eleven years old,
38:49
Speaker 1: has been found guilty sentenced to two life sentences without parole,
38:56
Speaker 1: twelve years in prison for tampering with a human body,
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Speaker 1: in eighteen months behind bars for tampering with physical evidence.
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Speaker 1: Many people say justice for Gannonstasch, May he rest in
39:12
Speaker 1: peace with the angels, and Letitius Stotch wrought in Hell
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Speaker 1: a woman. Goodbye, friend,