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9-22: Seahawks news and Jori Epstein of Yahoo Sports! · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Rental Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Happy Tuesday. Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrew. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: I like the cold as the Rockies. Seahawks plan is
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  Speaker 3: that quarterback Sam Darnold is going to practice at some
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  Speaker 3: capacity on Wednesday, four days before they play the winless
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  Speaker 3: commanders outside Washington, D.C., That will be two weeks to
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  Speaker 3: the day after Darnold strained his glute in the NFL
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  Speaker 3: kickoff game. Coach Mike McDonald says coaches are working on
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  Speaker 3: how to split the first team reps between Darnold and Locke.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this because you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to give Darnold all of them just in case he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't respond well to the practicing and then Locke has
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  Speaker 3: to play anyway. Rams got back on track last night
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  Speaker 3: after the Australia debacle. They smashed the Giants 28-6. New
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  Speaker 3: York lost quarterback Jackson Dart early in the game to
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  Speaker 3: a knee injury. Jameis Winston came in and all of
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  Speaker 3: us got to appreciate Drew Locke as the backup quarterback
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  Speaker 3: here instead.
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  Speaker 2: Of Jameis Winston.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Seahawks, it's an underrated role that they
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  Speaker 4: play when it comes to having really good backup quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Until you need them.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, the Giants used to have Drew Locke and
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  Speaker 3: they chose Jameis Winston instead with a new regime trying
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  Speaker 3: to keep Brian Babel employed and that didn't work. Sounds
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  Speaker 3: like it's an MCL strain for Dart, so he and
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  Speaker 3: the Giants avoid a season-ending injury. Pukunuku didn't play for
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  Speaker 3: the Rams last night, and he may not play in
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  Speaker 3: Week 3 for L.A. Mariners versus Trashcans tonight to begin
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  Speaker 3: a three-game series at the yard in Soto. M's are
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  Speaker 3: five games out, six games left, so they can't lose,
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  Speaker 3: and Houston can't win, and Texas can't win either.
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  Speaker 2: That's basically what has to happen for the next six days.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's still math to be mathed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.
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  Speaker 6: Can you imagine if they were just a 500 team
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  Speaker 6: instead of tanking it and just losing to the A's
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  Speaker 6: and Angels.
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  Speaker 2: And so forth, where they would be right now?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, a month ago we were talking about, well,
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  Speaker 4: this is the time. This is the point of the
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  Speaker 4: season that everything is okay.
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  Speaker 3: Final homestand of the season. The season ends Sunday, the
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  Speaker 3: regular season, and probably the season for the Mariners. Yankees
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  Speaker 3: say Aaron Judge isn't going to play in the wild
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  Speaker 3: card series to begin the playoffs. He's on the injured list.
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  Speaker 3: With a calf injury, of course, he missed most of
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  Speaker 3: the season injured for New York. It would be nice
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  Speaker 3: to be talking about playoff baseball and injures and playoff rosters.
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  Speaker 5: Do you remember?
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  Speaker 2: That happened here, didn't it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was there.
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  Speaker 4: I came home smelling like champagne and cigars a couple
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  Speaker 4: of different times.
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  Speaker 5: And it was really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Now on with the Tuesday show.
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  Speaker 3: Greg Bell back in the LA-based studios in Seattle, home
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  Speaker 3: from Phoenix from yesterday. And I'm now with Jessamyn McIntyre
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  Speaker 3: instead of staring into a blank space.
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  Speaker 5: I was doing the same. It was a void without you, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird to have a two-hour conversation with
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  Speaker 2: someone you don't see.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And we do. We are the most remote.
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  Speaker 5: We are everywhere on the station.
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  Speaker 4: So it happens quite often where people are back here
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  Speaker 4: in the studio running things on our end.
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  Speaker 5: And our hosts, our lovely talent is elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Talent. I love that term, talent. It's such a relative term.
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  Speaker 4: I remember my mom did an interview when she was
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  Speaker 4: working for New York State Parks. And she, you know,
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  Speaker 4: did an interview for the local news. They, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they wanted to have her on. And they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: the talent is going to... She's like, that talent?
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  Speaker 5: Just tell me a name.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The host?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Or, you know, Melissa is going to say hi to
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  Speaker 4: you before we bring you.
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  Speaker 5: On something other than the talent. People call me that,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like, nah.
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  Speaker 2: It's also an animate-sounding term, isn't it? An animate. It's
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  Speaker 2: just talented. It's a person.
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  Speaker 5: It's like a thing. It's got a name.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. How was your evening?
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  Speaker 5: Mine was great.
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  Speaker 4: We went to Mystery Movie Monday and it was a lovely,
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  Speaker 4: this isn't a spoiler alert, but it was the heart
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  Speaker 4: of the beast ended up being the movie. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 4: get something you'll never see in theaters and sometimes you
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  Speaker 4: get something that you've seen a trailer for.
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  Speaker 3: Explain mystery. You and Mike don't know? I mean, Mike
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  Speaker 3: knows and you don't?
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  Speaker 5: No, you never know. It's over at, it's a regal thing.
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  Speaker 5: I think they do it across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see. You just show up at the theater.
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  Speaker 4: However, we go to the Cine Bar over in Mount
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  Speaker 4: Lake Terrace.
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  Speaker 5: And we do it every once in a while. And
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  Speaker 5: I was a.
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  Speaker 4: Little tired yesterday. And he goes, mystery movie Monday?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I said, yes. And it was a movie I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to see. But as soon as it, you don't know.
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  Speaker 5: And it's super cheap.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like five bucks, um, because you don't
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  Speaker 4: know what you're going to get. So it's a gamble,
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  Speaker 4: but they, they do like food and drinks and stuff
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  Speaker 4: in there and you can just hang out.
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  Speaker 5: And I was so excited. As soon as I saw
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  Speaker 5: the opening scene, I was like, Oh, this is the
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  Speaker 5: heart of the beast. This is the heart of the beast.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of that. That's cool.
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  Speaker 5: Brad Pitt and a dog.
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  Speaker 2: No, not the movie.
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  Speaker 3: The concept of just showing up blindly at a theater,
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  Speaker 3: not knowing.
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  Speaker 2: What the film is.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't either. We found out by going there.
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  Speaker 4: And one of the people working there told us, hey,
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  Speaker 4: have you heard of Mystery Movie Monday?
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 4: They don't do it every Monday, but they started ramping
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  Speaker 4: back up again. Because in the summers, I guess a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people go to movies.
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  Speaker 3: Those of you on the Tacoma Dodge text line 49451
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  Speaker 3: may relate to this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you how my evening was.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I just really gave the sunny side of the street
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  Speaker 5: over here.
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  Speaker 2: So I landed from Phoenix at about 730.
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  Speaker 3: And just to let you know, I won't try to
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  Speaker 3: do too much information, but I got attacked or chewed up.
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  Speaker 2: You got eaten. By a sea.
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  Speaker 3: Urchin while I was surfing with our daughter in the
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  Speaker 3: north shore of Hawaii. And I went to an urgent
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  Speaker 3: care clinic in Oahu. And they told me, well, we
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  Speaker 3: don't pull these out. We don't do anything with them.
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  Speaker 3: We give you antibiotics. And 10 days later, it goes away.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So I was coming.
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  Speaker 3: I've been wearing sandals and flip-flops since because it hurts
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  Speaker 3: to put a foot on it. I mean, I had
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  Speaker 3: like 25 needles sticking out of my foot.
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  Speaker 5: They wouldn't take it out?
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  Speaker 3: I took out about 10 of them right in the water.
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  Speaker 3: but the ones that were remaining, they were kind of embedded,
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  Speaker 3: and they said it's too much trouble and possible infection
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  Speaker 3: to go in and get them, so we don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: We just let you roll. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And for eight days, it was fine. And then I
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  Speaker 3: wore dress shoes to the game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Which you do, yes.
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  Speaker 3: And not only that, the trend in NFL stadiums is
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  Speaker 3: when you get Uber rides to NFL stadiums, you are
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  Speaker 3: a country mile from where you have to go into
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  Speaker 3: the media gate.
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  Speaker 2: And this is first world problems I know. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: paying for my ticket. I'm not complaining.
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  Speaker 3: I love my job. We're going to have a talk
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  Speaker 3: in a couple weeks about how much I love my job.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. There's a whole other sidebar to that.
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  Speaker 3: But suffice to say, it was 100 degrees in Glendale
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday. And I'm walking in slacks and socks and
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  Speaker 3: dress shoes. For the first time I've worn dress shoes
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  Speaker 3: since I got attacked by a sea urchin.
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  Speaker 5: With the spine still in it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with the spine still in it.
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  Speaker 3: And I came back from the– well, after the game,
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  Speaker 3: I could barely walk. And I got back to the
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  Speaker 3: hotel Sunday night. And I took off my socks, and
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  Speaker 3: my foot was bright red and swollen.
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  Speaker 2: And it's infected. And so I was barely able to
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  Speaker 2: walk Sunday night. Monday, my wife— And you were still
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  Speaker 2: in Phoenix.
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  Speaker 3: I was in Phoenix yesterday, and my wife says, you
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  Speaker 3: need to go to the urgent care emergency room. I said, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to do that at home if I need to. Well,
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  Speaker 3: those of you on the text line know, if you've
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  Speaker 3: been married 30 years or have a significant other for
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  Speaker 3: 30 years, you kind of end up— The spouse ends
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  Speaker 3: up strong-arming the other spouse often about things that they
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  Speaker 3: need to do.
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  Speaker 5: Have done.
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  Speaker 2: And so I got home.
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  Speaker 3: My wife had dinner that she had picked up from
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  Speaker 3: Met Market or wherever. It wasn't her way home from work.
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  Speaker 3: And then she said, we're going to the hospital. She
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  Speaker 3: saw my foot and said.
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  Speaker 2: We're going.
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  Speaker 5: Well, she works in the medical field.
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  Speaker 2: She does. She works at a hospital.
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  Speaker 3: So we went to UW Medical Center, and I was
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  Speaker 3: there until 2.30 in the morning. And, yeah, I have
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  Speaker 3: an infected foot and a podiatrist appointment and on we go.
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  Speaker 3: They may have to go in there.
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  Speaker 5: Greg might dip at some point. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where I'm at. But yeah, I was thinking, man,
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  Speaker 3: what a nice night this is. Get off a plane
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  Speaker 3: and go straight to the emergency room for five hours.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the blasted tears. And I always found them fascinating,
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  Speaker 4: but I do keep my distance.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me if you're on the text line 49451, if
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  Speaker 3: you've been If you've gotten a sea urchin in your foot.
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  Speaker 4: Did you step on it?
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  Speaker 2: Did you tweezer it out?
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  Speaker 3: Did you just roll and it was fine? Because for
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  Speaker 3: eight days, mine was fine. And now here on day
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  Speaker 3: nine and ten, it's unfine.
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  Speaker 2: Did I what?
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  Speaker 5: Did you step on it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, no. What happened was.
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  Speaker 5: Because you said you got attacked. And I don't think
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  Speaker 5: they're really like shark-like.
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  Speaker 2: We were waiting for the surf lesson to begin.
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  Speaker 3: And he wasn't there yet. And so my daughter and
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  Speaker 3: I went out and were snorkeling in the coral. In
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  Speaker 3: the shallow part. And my snorkel tube got filled with
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  Speaker 3: salt water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And the other part of this calamity is my daughter's
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  Speaker 3: flippers with her snorkeling kit, the clip on my flipper
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  Speaker 3: was broken, so I didn't have the flippers on. So
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  Speaker 3: those of you that snorkel a little bit know if
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  Speaker 3: you have flippers on, you.
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  Speaker 2: Stay horizontal with the water.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But without the flippers, as soon as I saw that
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  Speaker 3: my tube was full of water, I lifted up and
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  Speaker 3: I was draining the tube, and then my body— Went
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  Speaker 3: down so that my feet went down under the water.
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  Speaker 2: Because I didn't have flippers on.
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  Speaker 5: So it was touching the coral.
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  Speaker 3: And then I scraped with the top of my foot
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  Speaker 3: and the bottom of my foot, scraped that coral.
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  Speaker 2: And man, it must have been the largest sea urchin
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the North Shore of Oahu.
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  Speaker 5: It was an angry one, I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: Man, it went to work. I mean, see, it was
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  Speaker 2: like 25 needles. It was like a pincushion. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: I left my foot up out of the water and
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  Speaker 6: I just started pulling out black needles. So yes, if
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  Speaker 6: you're watching on the YouTube channel, is still my ER
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  Speaker 6: bracelet from I left at 3 in the morning because
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  Speaker 6: I have to go back to podiatry today.
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  Speaker 5: Don't put that off, too. There's a lot of personal
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  Speaker 5: information on those. Don't put it up, too.
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  Speaker 2: But I have to go back to UW podiatry today,
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  Speaker 2: at least I'm hoping to.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought I might need this in case they
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  Speaker 3: have some other procedures in mind for me.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my night.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a good idea, and we have a
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  Speaker 4: lot to get to today anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you don't want to talk about this anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that in Sports Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 3: That was Jessamyn's way of saying, okay, Greg, we're done
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  Speaker 3: talking about this. On the show today, the latest on
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  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold and Zach Charbonnet. Zach Charbonnet is eligible to
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  Speaker 3: practice this week but not play for another couple weeks
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  Speaker 3: on the physically unable to perform. You're going to hear
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  Speaker 3: from Mike McDonald talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: You're also going to hear.
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  Speaker 3: about Nick Emanwuri's situation coming out of playing nine snaps
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  Speaker 3: in Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: It was his season debut.
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald said he could have played more, but the
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  Speaker 3: plan was not to extend him very much and that
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  Speaker 3: they got exactly what they hoped to get out of
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  Speaker 3: those nine snaps, six of them that he was.
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  Speaker 2: On the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 3: When I talked to Emanwuri in the locker room Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: he said, I'm playing every snap the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: I'm back.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's a baller.
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  Speaker 8: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that they'll do that in Washington on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of Washington on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, excuse me.
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  Speaker 3: And then 11 o'clock, we're going to talk to Jory Epstein,
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  Speaker 3: our weekly visit with the senior reporter for Yahoo. And
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  Speaker 3: she's sponsored now. She's back by Zeke's Pizza stepping up.
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  Speaker 2: And Zeke's Pizza.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that they'll.
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  Speaker 3: So Zeke's Pizza will sponsor Jory Epstein's weekly visits with
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  Speaker 3: us to go around the NFL Tuesdays at 11 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll do that again today. 1130. Read back your text.
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  Speaker 2: Your talkbacks.
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  Speaker 3: It's coming to text line 49451. 11.35, Factor Fiction. You're
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  Speaker 3: chasing $ 1, 000 from Lucky Eagle Casino and Resort. It's Jessamyn's
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  Speaker 3: turn today. She's going to give you an NFL pick
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  Speaker 3: at 11.35.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I will.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't do college football.
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  Speaker 5: Because she works in the field. It just feels unethical.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you for having some morals. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 5: It's just a few of them, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That wasn't counting, but you do have morals.
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  Speaker 3: The first question I have for you on the text line,
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  Speaker 3: besides if you ever had a sea urchin in your
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  Speaker 3: foot and how you dealt with that, because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think this was going to be a big deal, and
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  Speaker 3: now it has become one.
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  Speaker 2: What would you do with Sam Darnold v. Drew Locke
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  Speaker 2: this week?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, normally it'd be, yeah, Sam Darnold's practicing, he's playing.
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  Speaker 3: But the commanders are 0-2. They're in some disarray because
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  Speaker 3: now they have their backup quarterback playing because Jaden Daniels
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  Speaker 3: is out with.
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  Speaker 2: A dislocated elbow. This should be a game with the Seahawks' defense.
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  Speaker 2: Even though Marcus Marriott has been around the block, and
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  Speaker 2: he's faced the Seahawks many times, this should be a
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  Speaker 2: game the Seahawks win, no matter who plays quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Should be.
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  Speaker 3: So, do you rest Darnold again and have him even
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  Speaker 3: better for Week 4 against the Chargers and Week 5
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  Speaker 3: against the 49ers and Week 6 against Denver on a
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  Speaker 3: short week on a Thursday night?
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  Speaker 2: Or, as soon as Darnold's back, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: The way McDonald talked yesterday about this, and you're going
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  Speaker 3: to hear from McDonald in the next segment, Makes me
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  Speaker 3: think that they're in between on that right now. And
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  Speaker 3: they're probably in between because they want to see how
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  Speaker 3: Darnold responds to practicing. He hasn't been on the field
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  Speaker 3: with the team since the strained glute on September the 9th,
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  Speaker 3: and we're on September 22nd. So let's see, the thinking
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  Speaker 3: must be, how Darnold reacts to practicing on Wednesday, and
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  Speaker 3: that will determine how many more snaps he would get
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  Speaker 3: on Thursday. Now, if he reacts positively on Wednesday and Thursday, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you give him more snaps, and then by Friday, you
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  Speaker 3: make a determination that perhaps he is going to start
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  Speaker 3: And then he'll get the preponderance, another preponderance, I love
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  Speaker 3: to use that word, of Snaps on Friday.
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  Speaker 5: That was so close and nerdy.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I thought you were reaching for it.
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  Speaker 5: Preponderance counts.
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  Speaker 4: It's mostly due to the amount of syllables, yes.
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  Speaker 5: As you would say, syllables.
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  Speaker 2: When the accent's on the wrong one.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: 49451, would you start Drew Locke and say, Sam Darnold,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: take a break? Well, we got this.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: And especially, I didn't even mention, I wrote this in
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: the News Tribune story on my flight home last night.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: Not to mention the fact of how well Drew Locke
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: has played. Drew Locke, as Jessamyn pointed out yesterday to us,
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: is second in the NFL in passer rating through two games.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: He's fourth in completion percentage. It's not like he's just
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: been handing the ball off and managing games. He's winging it.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: And it's working.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Do you keep him in? I'm not saying Wally Pipps, Arnold.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say that at all.
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: But to ease Sam back.
• 14:33
  Speaker 9: Correct.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Do you take another week that you maybe would have
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: not otherwise done? and ride with the hot hand of
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: Drew Locke, and your defense is shutting down everybody and
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: only allowing 17 points through two games.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Do you realize the Seahawks have not allowed a.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Play of 20 or more yards through two games? The
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: largest gain by the Cardinals on Sunday was nine yards.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: Nine yards.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: They're the first team since 2016 to not allow 20
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: or more yards in either of their first two games.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: So with your defense playing like that, some of me thinks,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: just keep Drew Locke going. They'll win this game with
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: the way their defense is playing. As long as Locke
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: continues to not turn the ball over, which we keep
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: talking about, would be the one thing that could derail
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: this defense the way it's playing. And then let Sam
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Darnold come back with an extra week of rest, and
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: it would be then total three and a half weeks
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: before he would have played a second game.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Jessamyn, I think that's what I might do. I'd
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: keep Drew. I would too. And it's not that, again,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: it's not that, oh, Drew Locke.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Is now better or we're going to sit Sam Darnold
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: because Locke's playing so well, we're going to be extra
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: conservative and cautious and not bring Sam Darnold back to
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: the commander's game on the road at a 10 a.m.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: start and instead bring to Locke back and ride Locke
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: in your defense. I think that's might what I do,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: but of course, he's your franchise quarterback and there's egos
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: involved and there's leadership involved and what teammates expect and
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: all that comes into play in decisions like this too.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: 49451 on the Coma Dodge text line. What you would do.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: What we're going to do next is hear from Mike McDonald.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: He talked about Sam Darnold. He talked about Zach Charbonnet yesterday.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: He talked about Nicky Maury, how he came out of
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: the season debut in Arizona. 11 o'clock, Jory Epstein, senior
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: NFL writer for Yahoo Sports, goes around the league, including
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: the Giants and the Rams from last night.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, that was interesting. Should we hear from Sean McVay,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: by the way?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean McVay last night.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: I thought it was pretty fun.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Rams look like the Rams, right?
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: 28-6.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Of course, the Giants probably aren't as good as they
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: hope to be. They're still restarting with the Harbaugh regime.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: But last night after the game, Sean McVay, a.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Little self-deprecating. The rest of the world has been criticizing
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: him for how they travel to Australia. The boomerang trip
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: going over about 36 hours before kickoff. This was Sean
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: McVay last night after the Rams win.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Oops.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: That's my bad. I got it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: You know, sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.
• 17:04
  Speaker 10: And, you know, sometimes you have a dumbass coach that,
• 17:06
  Speaker 10: you know, makes travel plans that put you in a
• 17:09
  Speaker 10: bad spot.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: I do love his candor.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: That was his walk-off mic drop, literally. That was how
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: he ended the press conference, and he pounded the desk
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: and walked away. Not in anger.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: He was self-deprecating.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: That's what happens when you win. Coaches tend to do
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: things like that.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: It does help, yes.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: When you lose, they don't do stuff like that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Up next, we hear from Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: about his injury situations and Nick Imanwari, how he came
• 17:40
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• 17:42
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• 18:14
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• 18:27
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• 18:33
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• 18:35
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• 18:38
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• 18:39
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• 18:42
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  Speaker 3: by Zeke's Pizza. The Seahawks, meanwhile, have a quarterback, in
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: how much do they practice Drew Locke and Sam Darnold
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: this week. Mike McDonald saying yesterday that Darnold will, at
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: least the plan is, that he will return to practice
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: in some capacity on Wednesday.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And then the question becomes, well, how many.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Reps do you split between the two quarterbacks? Because, of course,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: if Sam Darnold comes back, you're not going to have
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: him running the scout team. So he's running the first
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: team offense. But you don't know how Sam Darnold is
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: going to react and his strained glutes are going to
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: react and not to doing something on the field for
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: the first time in two weeks to the day since
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the injury.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So you have to have Locke at least on Wednesday
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Running first-team reps to guard yourself on the way, how
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: it might react, how Darnold's injury might react Thursday after
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: practicing on Wednesday. And then Thursday you see how it goes,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: and perhaps maybe by Friday you make a determination on
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: which of the quarterbacks is going to start.
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: 4-9-4.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: The Tacoma Dodge text line, the first question I asked today,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: would you just say.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Ah, take a break? 0-2 commanders with a backup quarterback
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: in the way our defense and Drew Locke are playing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Let's just start Locke and roll with that to 3-0
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and give Darnold another.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Week off to fully recover and start perhaps week four.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: They have the Chargers, who are a mess right now
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: at 0-2. The Chargers coming in here for Week 4,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and then it's the 49ers, who are 2-0, and Brock
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Purdy completing 20 of 22 passes against Miami on San Nicolas.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: The Dolphins are awful.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But then have Donald ready to play those games rather
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: than this game this week. Nobody's going to say that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: now on Wednesday. They're going to see how Sam Donald's
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: injury reacts to having practiced.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: That's not the only practice.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Injury-returning situation Situation for a frontline starting player of the Seahawks.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet can.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Return to practice this week, even though he remains on
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the physically unable to perform list. An NFL rule change
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: this year allows players on the pup list to come
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: back after a team's second game to begin practicing. And
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: his 21-day practice window will open on Wednesday or can
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: open on Wednesday. It'll open the first day he takes
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the field. But the Seahawks are thinking about Wednesday being
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Charbonnet's first practice day because Mike McDonald said he wanted
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: to maximize the ramp-up time and assessing whether he would
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: be ready to play after the fourth game.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Because that's the PUP rules.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: They're still the same in that you cannot play until
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: after the fourth game. So they want to give him
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: two weeks of practice before that and then after the
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: fourth game, which would be leading into Week 5 against
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the 49ers. potentially Zach Charbonnet coming back. Mike McDonald talked
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: about this. He talked about the quarterbacks. Sam Donner returning
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: to practice and more yesterday. This is some of what
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: he said.
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: Do you have any more of a sense past this
• 21:38
  Speaker 11: morning about Sam and whether you think he might be
• 21:42
  Speaker 11: able to get out to the practice field on Wednesday?
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: Right now, the plan is for him to be out
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: there in some capacity and we'll go from there. How much,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: we'll see from here to Wednesday on what that number is,
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: but Right now, that's the goal.
• 22:01
  Speaker 11: You had also mentioned this morning about Zach and trying
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: to figure out his timeline for a possible return. Is
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: that more targeting when to open the window or when
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: you guys think he might be to the point of
• 22:12
  Speaker 11: return to play?
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: I think they're kind of one and the same. We
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: want to be as.
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: Close to accurate.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: We want to try to maximize the amount of time
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: we can practice to give us the opportunity for him
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: to be ready to go back. You know, not saying
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: that it'll take, it'll definitely take the most amount of time,
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: most amount of, well, not that we're going to max
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: out all the practices, but that's something that we want
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: to be able to consider, you know, and how much
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: practice time it's going to take and things like that.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: So that's something we're still working through.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: That was Mike McDonald yesterday talking about Zach Sharman. It's
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a 21 day window from the first day he steps
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: on the field. So if the Seahawks decide this isn't
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the week to, Try Charbonnet and the clock wouldn't start
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: until next week. But signs are that Charbonnet is going
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: to give it a go this week in practice to
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: begin that window and maximize the time before he'd be
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: able to play for the first time after they've played
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: four games.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So he has to miss four weeks. Nicky Manwuri.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: I was just going to.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Say, I listen to people for a living and I
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: talk quite a bit. But the one thing that I
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: noticed is the pregnant pauses in that. And just to
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: be clear, to make it a little more expeditious for,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: that's a nerd alert, yes, but I'm not playing it
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: on myself. But for the radio, I cut out a
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: good four second pause from that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: And there were some pregnant pauses.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: And I think Mike McDonald is being very careful about
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: what he says. And if he's saying something too quickly or,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you know, he's just they're being very careful with Zach
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Charbonnet is what I get from that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And Mike McDonald, over the three years now that I've
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: been covering him daily, has really, really become close.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: To the vest on injuries.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Which he should be.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: You talk about pregnant. He's more pregnant than his wife,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: who is pregnant and due with their second child in December.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: When he starts talking about injuries.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: I didn't know she was pregnant again.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Congratulations, McDonald's. She is pregnant. They are due to have
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a daughter. Their first was a son, correct?
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: That's right.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's perfect.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: So Jack is now two-plus years old, and they're going
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to have a daughter on the way.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: She's due in December.
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: Really?
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: That old?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm saying anything out of turn.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: No, no, no. It's out there. It's out there. I
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: thought at the Super Bowl that he was a baby.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was running around. Playing with the confetti and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: stuff like a toddler would. Oh, that's a toddler, yeah. Yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: he wasn't quite.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: As you can tell, Greg, I don't have kids, so
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I don't know this business. I'm just very happy for them.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: But that was actually really good. I kind of ruined
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: your soliloquy there.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: That's okay.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: My soliloquy is, you can ruin them. Nicky Manwari played
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: nine snaps. It was his season debut, and it was
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: a surprise to us to cover the team every day
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: because he had yet to fully practice since June. Of course,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: he had the arthroscopic ankle surgery in July. But the
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: plan was to play him a few snaps, and he did.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Six in the first half, nine in all. Six of
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: his nine were at the line of scrimmage, some of
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: them as a defensive end, which I think he just
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: was screwing around with the league, McDonnell was, to get
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: filmed of Eamon Ward.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: He did that in the Vikings game.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I like the games of the chips.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what that was.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Plus, he didn't want to have him so much in
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the open field and testing that ankle and running and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: cutting differently.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Just run straight up field as a rusher. from the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: So what's next for Imanwari? How did he come out
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: of the game and what's next? Mike McDonald talked about
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that yesterday.
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: How did Nick Imanwari make it through yesterday?
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Really good, really good. We wanted to, I think for
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: what we wanted to get out of the game, I
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: think it was probably best case scenario where we could
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: really ramp into this week and he's got confidence in
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: what he's able to do and he's also got some
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: some really good reps stack behind him. And now we
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: can have clarity going into the week in terms of
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: game plan, how many reps he can, he can manage.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: There's already clarity with Nicky Minwar in his own mind.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: When I talked to him in Glendale after the game
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, he said, Oh, I'm playing. I'm full go.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not missing a snap the rest of the season.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I went along.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: He implied, he didn't quite say this, but he implied,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I went along with this governing plan this week and
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: limiting me and I get it, but.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Now I'm back.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: And he didn't, There were a few times. There was
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a question on a text line yesterday I didn't get to.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: There were a few times he was on the field.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe we did get to it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I've had a little bit of a
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: long day.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe you noticed Eamon Worry was on the field at
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the start of drives, but then would come off. In fact,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: for the very first scrimmage play of the game, he
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: was on the field during a TV timeout. And then
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: he came off the field. And McDonald, some of it
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: was trying to play with the Cardinals a little bit
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: and say, what sub package are they in? Why is
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Eamon Worry on the field? And then take them off
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: right before the snap. But Imanwari explained that a lot
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: of times they do that because they don't know exactly
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: what package they're going to put in for the start
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: of the drive. They want to see what the Cardinals
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: are employing on the field. It's a little like the
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: old NHL home team gets last line change type of thing.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: But if the now between plays, the rules are if
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the offense substitutes, the defense gets a chance to substitute
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and the umpire will stand over the ball and wait.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But at the start of drives, McDonald often puts 13,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: 14 guys in the defensive huddle during the immediate timeouts
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: so that the offense doesn't know what packages are coming.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: And then three or four guys run off, and then
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: they decide right before the snap. And that was what
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: was going on with Eamon Worre the other day. But
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: if I had to guess, Jessamyn, I think Eamon Worre
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: is back now. And Wednesday, he's probably going to be
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: full go playing– most, if not all the time.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: And now that means more dime, which the Seahawks have
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: done next to none of so far through two games
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: because even worry hasn't been on the field. They were
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the most dime six defensive back team in the league
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: last year because they wanted to play even worry as
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: a hybrid linebacker.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: We've talked about that at the same four, three linebacker.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: And they wanted Devin Witherspoon inside a nickel, which we've
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: talked about a lot. And that's why they had the
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: three cornerback rotation and Rick Wollin and Josh Jobe also
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: on the field outside Witherspoon inside and even worry as
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: as the NFL defines him, a sixth defensive back, but
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: McDonald uses him as an extra linebacker, as Sam Linebacker
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: when they go dime. So in the meantime, while Eamon
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Warrior has not been playing, Tyrese Knight has been playing more.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: He played again on Sunday in Arizona as a third linebacker.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: They were basically a 4-3 when Eamon Warrior wasn't on
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the field a lot of the time, with Drake Thomas
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and Tyrese Knight flanking middle linebacker Ernest Jones. That use,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: you would figure, will go down if even worry goes
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: in and they go more to dime, they keep Witherspoon
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: inside where McDonald wants to play them. You can't have
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: 12 guys in the field. Someone has to come off.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And it would, I would think mean a return to
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: more two linebackers. And I think Drake Thomas and Tyrese
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Knight will play less if even worry plays more because
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: then he'll just use even worry and, um, Ernest Jones
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: as the two linebackers.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Like he did last year.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: That's what I like to call depth, Greg.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: That's what I like to call depth.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And Drake Thomas is a perfect example of that. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: was a special teams player, a practice squad guy, weighed
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: by the Raiders. And here he is, now a starter
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: in a prominent role. Played a really good game, I thought,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, chasing down ball carriers and open field short tackling.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: You've got to give a lot of credit to the
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: front office there with their ability to scout these guys.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And I know every team does it, right? You know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: guys who are, quote unquote, clear waivers, and then... they're
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: just trying to hide them on the practice squad because
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: they see something in them as well.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: But the Seahawks seem to be really, really good at it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: It's part of what John Schneider, it's the reason why
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: he has the contacts around the league that he has.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: And he's constantly talking about Staying in the know and
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: being in on everything. And when he says he's in
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: on everything, it's for times like that. It's to have
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: relationships with the Raiders front office so that when Drake
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Thomas gets waived, they have a heads up or they, oh,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the pro scouting staff had an eye on this guy
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: and they snoop him up. And now here he is
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: a starting weak side inside linebacker. There's countless. Josh Jobe
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: was waived by Philadelphia at the end of a training camp.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And they signed him to the practice squad. And now
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: he's an $ 8 million-a-year starting cornerback. So there's all kinds
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: of stories of the Seahawks doing just that. Cody White,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: who's now– he just had two touchdowns with the Raiders
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. Cody White, who had his first career touchdown
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: with the Seahawks last year, was in the league for
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: six years on practice squads with mostly the Steelers.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: The Steelers wave him.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: They bring him in. They put him on the practice squad.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: He becomes a contributor. Go down the list. There are
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: countless examples of this.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Tai Okada.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: A starting safety, currently injured, missed the second consecutive game
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: with a hamstring injury. But Ty Okada was the same thing.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: He was a practice squad player undrafted out of Montana
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: State that they have now developed.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Into a starter. Yes.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: One of the many reasons that the Seahawks in their
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: 17 years have gone to four Super Bowls and won
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: two of them, John Schneider's reign, is because of moves
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just got an eye for talent, and I
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: think he has an eye for people as well.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: A lot of people think he's going to go to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: As a general manager, he's the only general manager who
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: has taken two different teams of two different coaches and
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: two different regimes to Super Bowl championships. Guys have done
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it before to get to the Super Bowl, but to
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: win them both two different times with two different head
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: coaches and two different regimes, he's the first general.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Manager to do that. It bears repeating.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: It was Jody Allen who decided to fork in the
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: road to choose John Schneider's path forward and make him
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the chief of football operations in January of 2024 when
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: they fired Pete Carroll.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: It was Jody Allen.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Who made a decision to go with John Schneider's path
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: forward to Mike McDonald. He wanted an innovator, a young
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: defensive mind, replacing the old defensive mind of Pete Carroll.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: That was Jody Allen's decision to, I mean, Jody Allen
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: had an either or. Do I go with Pete Carroll,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: bring back all the coordinators, run it back the way
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: it's been for 15 years? Or do I go this
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: other path with a first-time GM who has never been
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: fully in charge of football operations in his vision for
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: where they go? And she chose the latter. And they
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean, there's the easy route. I wouldn't
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: say easy, but the comfortable route. And I always respect
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: people who choose the unknown. So, I mean, not that
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: John Schneider was the unknown, but we don't know what's
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: going to happen without Pete Carroll because that was a
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: very long regime. And I respect the heck out of
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: it and look at where it got them.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Thanks on the Tacoma Dodge text line 49451 for some
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: of the suggestions on.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: The Yeah, I saw some vinegar.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I heard white vinegar.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: The doctor who was a Coast Guard doctor's moonlighting on
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: weekends at the urgent care clinic in Oahu told me
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: that that's a wives' tale.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And actually, there's no medical proof of that working. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't try it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's a placebo effect.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe. But that's it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot in there about the Sam Darnold situation.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: And a lot of you are saying, no need to
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: rush him back. Let's stay with Drew Locke.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I see a lot of that, yes. And we'll get
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: to those talkbacks as well.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: We'll do that at 11.30.
• 33:27
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• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I had the first two. You had the latter three.
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: I killed us.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I was not great.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I lost two out of three. The Steelers just got
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: boat raced in New England, and.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Montana, I thought Montana-Oregon State was going to be a
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: close game, and Oregon State went to work.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They were winless, and they just pounded Montana.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: They needed that, just like we needed our Duquesne game.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're kind of, we're brethren, so.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, Duquesne, that's when the first win of the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: season for us. Washington state.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: It's just kind of funny that they call it. I'm like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: there's a school called Duke, right? And they're the blue devils.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Well, it's for, because I'm from Pittsburgh, just outside Pittsburgh.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It's from Fort Duquesne, which was named after the French.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: And there was a Fort Duquesne in Pittsburgh.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Right. Which is why there's Duquesne university, which is right
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: downtown next to the university of Pittsburgh, which is right
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: downtown next to it's on the East side and near Oakland, actually,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: which is right next to Carnegie Mellon. It's Carnegie Mellon,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Duquesne and Pitt. Boom, boom, boom.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: But choose a different mascot.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Duquesne Dukes?
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Duquesne Dukes. I'm sorry. It's too repetitive.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: There's an alliteration thing there.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's too much.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Alliteration is letters. It's the first letters, not the whole name.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Three questions on the text line about Trevon Diggs. So
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about that next. But we're also going to
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: talk about the Seahawks running back situation. A new dependable
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: back emerged in Arizona. He hadn't done much all summer
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: because he was injured, but now he's at the forefront
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: of the Seahawks' plans after what he did against the Cardinals.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: 11 o'clock, Jory Epstein is senior NFL writer from Yahoo Sports.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: All that's coming up on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell, Justin McIntyre joining you from the LA-based studios
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: of 93.3 KJR FM. Seahawks are off today, no thing
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: on the field. They'll be back on the field tomorrow
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: where we're looking to see if Zach Charbonnet takes the
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: field for the first time since reconstructive knee surgery in February.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: He's eligible now while on the PUP list, the Physically
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Inevitable Performer list, to practice now that the Seahawks have
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: played two games. And we're also looking to see if
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: We'll practice tomorrow. The plan is he will practice. We'll
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: find out in what capacity, how much, how many reps
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: he splits with Drew Locke. There's a couple people on
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: the text line, three of them, in fact, in a row,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: asking about Trevon Diggs.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Remember him?
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: The 2021 All-Pro Cornerback for the Dallas Cowboys. The Seahawks
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: signed him late in the preseason. He balled out in
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the first half of the final preseason game against Kansas City,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: but he's remained.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: On the practice squad. He has not been elevated in either.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Of the first two games, and I think some of
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: that Well, I know some of it is that they've
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: told us he's trying to get into playing shape after
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: not practicing since January.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Some of it's learning the defense.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: But also because they've needed Rodney Thomas and other safeties
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: to come up. Rodney Thomas has been an elevation from
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the practice squad in each of the first two games
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and has started at safety because both Tai Okada and, well,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Tai Okada's been out and Nick Imanwuri's been basically out
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: for all but nine plays coming back from.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: His ankle surgery.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: So now that Imanwuri's back, I think that puts Diggs
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: in play here. for coming up from the practice squad
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: on Sunday at Washington. The Seahawks can elevate Rodney Thomas
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: one more time because you can elevate guys from the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: practice squad three times before after the third time you
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: have to offer him a spot on the 53 or
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: you offer him a spot as an unrestricted free agent.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: He's a former starter with the Indianapolis Colts who I
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: think they're going to end up signing to the active roster.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: They're going to do it after the third elevation this
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: week in Washington. Ty Okada, the hamstring issue. We talk
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: about hamstrings. They don't just end overnight. So he may
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: be out for a third time, depending on if he
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: can practice this week.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: At running back, there.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Was also a hamstring issue for Emmanuel Wilson during training camp.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: He didn't practice at all. He missed most of August.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: They got him from Green Bay on a one-year, no-risk,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: low veteran minimum salary deal after he had a 500-yard
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: rushing season with the Packers last year. He was going
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: to be their third down, short yardage back. That's what
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: they liked about him being a more physical runner. a
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: more pounding guy than Jadarian Price or George Helani or
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: anyone else in the backfield. But then he missed most
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: of the preseason. Well, on Sunday, he ended up getting
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: 21 carries for 92 yards. Not just short yardage, obviously,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: because Jadarian Price injured his shoulder. Price, by the way,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: left the game in the third quarter, had x-rays that
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: were negative. It's a shoulder injury. McDonald says they do
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: not believe it's long-term. They don't think it's a big deal.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Left unsaid is whether Price will play on Sunday or not.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: We'll start finding out more, of course, during the week
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and whether he practices.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: But in the meantime... They now have somebody they can
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: trust in Emmanuel Wilson, and we weren't even talking about
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: him three weeks ago.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I did not know his name off the top of
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: my head.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: You aren't alone.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt kind of dumb, to be honest, when
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I was at the watch party at Muckleshoot.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I was like, excuse me, Wilson? We have a Wilson?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but it's great, and it just shows to
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: the depth they build and also kind of keep it
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: hidden from other teams.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Up next, let's go around the NFL.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Jory Epstein, senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports, is back
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: with the show for the second time. She was a
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: couple years ago when Chris Kidd and I had a show,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: and Zeke's Pizza sponsored her then.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Zeke's Pizza is sponsoring her now.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: They love some Jory.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Jory's gluten-free, and they have gluten-free pizza. Oh, yeah. Zeke's Pizza.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: They sure do. They have a whole gluten-free menu, actually.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I texted her that this morning, and it blew her mind.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: A New Yorker could not believe that there's gluten-free pizza
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. Oh, yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: You know, they have that on Long Island.
• 39:27
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, really? She's. Yes. Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Well, Long Island's a little more bougie, right?
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: It depends on where you are. It really does. It's
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: a big island. Yes. But in Manhattan, it's very. You
• 39:39
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• 39:43
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• 39:46
  Speaker 2: From New York, Jory's up next to talk about everything
• 39:49
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• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Here with Greg Bell.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Jasmine McIntyre here again with the Greg Bell show. And
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: now I have the pleasure of being joined by By
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Jory Epstein of Yahoo Sports, our senior writer, who is
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• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Yay, Zeke's. Let's go, Jory.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Jory, one of the biggest things that I wanted to
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: ask you, well, last night, Monday Night Football, what did
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: you see from your vantage point?
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think to me what was most interesting wasn't
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: the Jackson Dart injury. It wasn't what the Giants were doing.
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: It was that the Rams, one week after losing to
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: the San Francisco 49ers, all of a sudden looked like
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: a high-powered team that will be hard to keep up with,
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: and that was without Miles Garrett and without Puka Nakua,
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: both of whom are sidelined due to injury. And all
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: of a sudden you have Aaron Donald. Okay, maybe it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: not pass rush first week, especially if he's getting these
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: double teams without Miles Garrett, but he got those run stops.
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: He's making stops in the red zone, and you say, oh,
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: no Puka Nakua. What about 33-year-old Devontae Adams making catch
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: after catch after catch? And so I know Sean McVay
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: made some jokes after the game about his travel plans
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: the week before for the game in Australia. But I
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: do think that the Rams yesterday showed us that they're
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: going to be just fine this year.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: And we are rejoined by Greg Bell here.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: And I.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Think that's the one thing that Seahawks fans out here
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: are really concerned about is that, oh gosh, the Rams
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: are legit.
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. I think that the Rams just have a
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: lot of different talented pieces. And even though they've built
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: this really heavy team in some ways of you have
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: a few stars you're really relying on, I feel like
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: they have more depth below those stars than maybe they
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: did in the past couple of years. And that's by
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: design with the cornerbacks they've gotten. That's by design with, oh,
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: not just Miles, but also Aaron, not just Puka, but
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: also Devontae. So I do feel like there are a
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: lot of different ways they can beat you.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Hi, Jory. I got to ask you about Aaron Donald.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: How do you look like to you? Can the Rams
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: count on him to be a three down defensive tackle
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: by the season's end, if not sooner?
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I believe he played about 32 snaps last night.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: I need to find where I have that stat. But
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: I think that for him to do that in his
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: first game back was really impressive to me. He did
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: say he was sore after the game, which I'd be
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: shocked if he wasn't. But he didn't look like a
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: player that, despite getting those double teams, had been out
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: of the league for a couple of years. So I
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: think if they want him to play full-time by the
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: end of the year, they can. I don't know that
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: that's necessarily what their plan was when they had Aaron
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: Donald at the start. And I think they hope... If
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: they get miles back, that's not going to need to
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: be their plan. What was interesting to me is that
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: NextGenStats had a number saying that on one hand, first
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: game back since 2023, he generates just one pass around
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: 18 pass rushes, which is tied for his career low.
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: But to me, the more interesting stat was that he
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: averaged three quarters of a second in his pass rush
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: get-off time, which ranked as the third quickest by defensive
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: tackle in the game this season. So to me, if
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: he's getting up, that means in under a second, he's
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: creating a problem for at least one offensive lineman, probably two,
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: sometimes three, and also the quarterback. And so it's not
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: to me if he gets helmets about all the attention
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: he commands and how that opens up his teammates as well.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: You cover the Giants or been around the Giants a
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: lot more than I have. If I could take you
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: back to the decision to sign Jameis Winston, draft Jackson Dart,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: and try to really save Brian Dable's job, and let
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke go after.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: His one season and four starts with him at the
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: end of that season. Boy, that doesn't look like a
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: good move right now, the way Drew Locke's playing for
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks. That decision by the Giants to let his
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: contract lapse and not re-sign him is how the Seahawks
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: got him back on a two-year deal and why he's
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: playing as Sam Donald's been hurt. But was there any,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: at the time, if you can remember, was there any,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: thought of keeping Drew Locke and how that whole decision
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: went down with Jameis Winston in New York?
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: On one hand, when you look at how they each
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: played this league, no question, Drew had a much stronger
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: game and much the decisions he was making. I mean,
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: Jack Jameis is so much fun to watch, but it's
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: like they spin out of the pocket and then you
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: throw it and there's no receiver nearby. That actually isn't
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: that helpful for scoring points. But what's interesting to me
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: is that I talked to Drew recently. about his career
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: when I was at Seattle for training camp. And he
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: kind of mentioned like, look, he was having different offensive
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: coordinators every single year, basically college and the NFL, other
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: than Shane Waldron. And at least this year, he feels
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: like going from Clint Kubiak to Brian Flory, there's kind
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: of consistency in the principles. And so I don't know
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: that Drew thinks he was this player a couple of
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: years ago. And I also think when you asked me
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: this question, it kind of reminds me to a sit
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: down interview I had with Gino Smith and June for
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: a story that basically didn't run until now. And the
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: Seahawks part of it ended up not running because of
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: the timing. And when I asked Gino what he thought
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: of the Seahawks winning the Super Bowl in the first
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: year that happened and what goes through his mind, he
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: kind of mentioned like comparing his year of Las Vegas
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: to Sam's year last year in Seattle. He's like, I'm
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: super competitive and I'm super motivated, but I also understand
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: it's a team game. This is a direct quote. I
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: understand it's a process and it's not just me alone.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: I'm not in it alone, just like Sam's not in
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: it alone. The way it came off, and I hope
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: I'm framing this properly, was not like he wasn't giving
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: Sam credit. He was so happy for Sam and said,
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: we've had similar career arcs. And I understand what it
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: means to get to the point he did. But I
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: think Geno's reminder of like, hey, what he was working
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: with in Vegas last year is very different than what
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: Seattle has built as a team. Kind of reminds me
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: of some of what Jamison was working with compared to
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: what Drew Locke worked with. And also, I don't think
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: that Drew Locke would have the same infrastructure for success
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: around him right now if he had been on the
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: New York Giants as opposed to the Seattle Seahawks. There
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: would have been a lot of turnover at the offensive system,
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: a lot of turnover at quarterback. coordinator, and I actually
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: think he's better positioned where he is right now, so
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: I don't know that the Giants would be better. Now,
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: that's not to take credit away from Drew. Drew has
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: played fantastic, and I'm so impressed with what he's doing,
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: and yes, it helps to have Jackson, Smith, and Duke,
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: but yes, it helps to have a defense forcing some takeaways.
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: I think Drew is playing great, but I also think
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: Drew is in a situation that is helping him play great.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: George Epstein is our weekly... guest, thanks to Zeke's Pizza.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: She's the senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. She joins
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline from New York, talking
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: around all NFL things. While let's stay on lock, we just,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: at the top of the show, ask our listeners out here, Jory,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: would you just keep lock in this week against Washington?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: They're 0-2.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: They're starting to back up quarterback and let Sam Darnold
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: rest another week just because their defense is playing so well.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: It may not matter in some ways who plays quarterback
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: for the Seahawks right now. Or Sam Donald practices Wednesday.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and play him.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: I guess some of this depends on does Sam feel
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: like he's 7 out of 10 back or 9 out
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: of 10 back? I don't really think anyone's 10 out
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: of 10 once the season starts. I would likely go
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: with Drew Locke. I think you get Sam practicing. You
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: see what he's able to do. But I would still,
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: at least as of Wednesday, probably give Drew those first-team snaps.
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: And I think that when you look at what the
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: commanders have and where they're at– I think that Drew
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: can win this game. And I think that the importance
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: of Sam's being fully healed for December and January is
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: way more important than the extra five or 10 points
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: you might get from him against the commanders in September.
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: So to me, that's a pretty smooth decision. I guess
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: the question would be if Sam really does feel back,
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: do you at least have him dressed as the backup?
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: Is that weird? I mean, I don't think this isn't
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: a quarterback controversy. I don't think so. Like it's not
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: that element. And so maybe that you're able to sort
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: of have him as a, okay, if we need you, great,
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: but we'd rather arrest you. I think you go with Drew.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: What do you think, Greg?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: For the points you just made, and there is no
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: quarterback controversy. We're not trying to say on this show
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: that Sam Darnold should not be the quarterback.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Let's go ultra-conservative while your team and backup quarterback are
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: playing as well as they are. Okay, a backup quarterback
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: in Washington, too. Jaden Daniels with another dislocated elbow. That's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: two seasons in a row. I watched him on the
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Sunday night game back in November when the Seahawks were
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: there in Landover, dislocated his elbow. And now here he
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: is again with a dislocated elbow. So Dan Quinn yesterday
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: saying it's going to be Marcus Mariota, who's 33 years old.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: He started plenty of times against everybody. But what's up
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: with the commanders now with Mariota, or is this a
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: situation where Mariota's plug and play because of how experienced
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: he is anyway?
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Mariota's very experienced. and I think he's
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: one of the better backups in the league, and there
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: shouldn't be significant dropback in terms of ability to operate
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: the offense, arm talent, et cetera. What I worry about
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: is David Blau, their first-year offensive coordinator, really built this
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: offense that is, hey, we're going to go under center more,
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: we're going to have a lot of play action, really
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: very different than the kind of tempo running that they
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: were doing with Cliff Kingsbury last year. And one of
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: the reasons that Washington believed in this so much is
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: because of Jaden Daniels, dual threat and I do think
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: Mariota has some degree of dual threat but he doesn't
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: threaten you the way that Jaden does which means that
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: this run pass by action all that you don't have
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: necessarily the same concern that Jaden is going to escape
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: I mean even in this past week Jaden plays part
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: of the game he's got seven rushes for 69 yards
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: Marcus later in the game had one attempt for three
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: yards and so yeah he was a very efficient in
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: the passing game but I think some of these principles
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: so you to me, Marcus will be solid and you
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: don't really have to worry about whether he's going to
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: be a strong backup, but some of the math changing
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: problems that Jaden Daniels, when healthy creates, you have to
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: worry about. And I think you probably have to worry
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: about them even when Jaden returns to the field, which
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: should be the season from what they're saying, because can
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: you risk Jaden's health in that way at some point?
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: I mean, this didn't happen on a run. So I
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: think it's worth knowing that he was kind of trying
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: to catch himself after he had contact from the defense
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: on an incomplete pass, but I still just worry about
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: that durability, which has been a concern from the time
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: he was drafted. And when he's healthy, he's a huge problem,
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: but recurring injuries in the same place, worry me. And
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: the last thing I'll say on that is like, we
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: kind of saw with Daniel Jones last year, where he
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: has a fractured leg on one side and ends up
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: tearing that I believe it was Achilles on the other.
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: And so you kind of have to worry about these
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: compensation injuries to have guys come back and they're not
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: fully healthy. And this is the third time that Jaden
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: has had an issue with And the slight upside is
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: it's not his throwing arm, but you've still got to worry.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: You were at 49ers camp last month, Jory, on or
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: about the time you were at the Seahawks camp.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Did you see– health is such a big story with.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Them and who's healthy and who's not and who's coming
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: back and George Kittle and Fred Warner and the whole bit,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: But Brock Purdy, 20 for 22, did you see that
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: coming and how accurate he is again in Kyle Shanahan's offense?
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Are you buying into now? the 49ers rejoining the Rams
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: and the Seahawks in the West, or are the Dolphins
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: just awful?
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny. My colleague Frank Schwab does power rankings
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: every week, and I believe he has three NFC West
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: teams in the top four. I think the top four,
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: other than the Bills. And I think that's deserved. I
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: think the Niners, when healthy, if they stay really healthy,
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: I think if they stay like 80% healthy, they still
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: should have a chance. My question is given their age
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: and how many past injuries they have from guys on
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: their team, we often hear the best predictor of future
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: injury is past injury. How many losses can they withstand?
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: But they're doing this about their talented rookie, Deshaun Stribling,
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: who is lighting it up in the preseason. Now he's
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: out about 10 weeks after surgery, and they're still looking
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: like this, and Brock is really distributing the ball around. Now,
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: I would argue that what Brock did against the Rams,
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: going 25 of 34 in week one, is more impressive
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: than 20 of 22 against the Dolphins because of their
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: relative opponent strength. But I do think that everyone, when
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: I was at.
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: Looks so good. I mean, Fred Warner keeps talking about
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: how Brock's the best quarterback in the league. And it's
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: funny because on one hand, I know that you have
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: a lot of guys who say that about their own quarterback,
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: but Fred Warner is one of the most cerebral and
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: talented players in the entire NFL. Like if you take
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: what he does in his position relative to how guys
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: are any at their position, there are a few players that,
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: if any better than Fred Warner. And I don't think
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: he just says that to say that I think it's,
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: he practices against Brock all the time and really sees
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: what he's able to do and how Brock runs that
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: anticipatory system. And so I do think that they believe
• 53:23
  Speaker 8: Brock is that good. And I think he's been that
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: good for a while. Again, just can he stay healthy?
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: In Chicago, we saw Caleb Williams going off the field
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: on back of a cart would look like he thought
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: it was a season ending injury.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: The way he was reacting.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Hamstring issue that bears say week to week. for their
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: starting quarterback. Joy, you've been around the Bears a little bit.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Do you think that Ben Johnson stays with his offense
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: going forward without Caleb Williams, or what's.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: He going to do now without Williams on the field?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Does he change up?
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's Ben Johnson really likes the run game generally.
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: And so I think he'll continue to really like the
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: run game. I do think that week one, week two
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: of Tyson Bajan playing kind of like we saw with
• 54:03
  Speaker 8: true lock of some of the pre-snap penalties and the
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: cadence stuff does tend to get cleaned up a little bit,
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: the longer you're in the game. And so I do
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: think there'll be some strength, but I mean, He's not
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: going to be Caleb Williams. So you do have to adjust.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: And the problem is, and I can't remember if I
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: said this last week, is that no team to me
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: was farther apart in terms of where their defense was
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: and where their offense was in training camp when I
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: visited in the Chicago Bears. And so if you now
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: are taking the quarterback out of Chicago Bears offense, that
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: was really going to need to carry this team. You're
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: not going to have the defense. be able to take
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: that much pressure off your offense, and then all of
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: a sudden you see, hey, 9-3. So I do worry
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: about what they're going to be able to do, but
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: it seems like Caleb's injury is not as bad as
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: initially feared, or I should say not as long-term as
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: initially feared.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Tyson Bajent will make his fifth career start, it appears,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: on Sunday for the Bears. He's been in the league
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: four years, all with the Bears, a former free agent quarterback,
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: now getting a chance to start. He's from West Virginia
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: and went to Shepherd College near where I grew up
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: in West Virginia. Joey Everson joining us on the Beacon
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Plumbing Hotline. Thanks to Zeke's Pizza, Zeke'sPizza.com. Are you a
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak Raiders believer? A lot of people out here
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: in Seattle didn't think Clint Kubiak was head coaching material
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: just because of his affect when you talk to him
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: in press conferences and stuff. But, man, he knows ball
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: from his father and the Shanahan system. And now he's
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: got the Raiders at 2-0. And– First of all, from
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: what you've seen, how they've done this, and are you
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: a believer that this can continue in the AFC West,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: which is loaded, of course?
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, before we get to the Raiders' performance, I
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: want to go back to what you said about Quinn
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: and whether people believed in him based off how he
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: runs a room or how he presents. When Kellen Moore
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: was first getting head coaching jobs, I talked to an
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: executive who had interviewed Kellen going back to when he
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: was coming out of Boise State at the Combine going
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: into the NFL as a player, and the executive told
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: me that Helen Moore doesn't command a room like Tariq Midnight,
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: but he demands respect, even if he doesn't command it,
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: because of how cerebral he is and because of what
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: he's able to do. And at the time, coming out
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: of Boise State, I think he was the one against
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: quarterback in college football history at the time. So I
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: would say similar to Clint, like, We hear it all
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: the time that it sounds cliche. If you help guys win,
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: they don't really care what you sound like, what your
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: personality is, all of that. If you win, then you're
• 56:20
  Speaker 8: going to get the buy-in. And I think that Clint
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: is clearly showing he can get the buy-in. I think
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: that even if the Raiders maybe aren't quite as good
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: as they seem or quite as talented as the record
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: currently suggests, We've seen teams in recent years that have
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: been able to run that momentum and that belief to
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: massively overperform and be ahead of schedule in their life cycle.
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: I think we saw that with the Commanders a couple
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: years ago in Daniel's rookie year. We saw that with
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: the Bears. We saw that with the Patriots. Some of
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: this stuff, you really do end up running it and
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: having a deep playoff run just because you're there. Now, obviously,
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: it's been two weeks. I'm not saying the Raiders are
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: sure to have a deep playoff run, but I think
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: the momentum carries. The other thing that's worth noting is
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: I feel like we've seen a lot of teams around
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: the league who say, Hey, we're going to do this
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: under center. We're going to do this play action stuff.
• 57:08
  Speaker 8: And then they have pretty significant injuries to the offensive
• 57:10
  Speaker 8: line or even one very big injury. And all of
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: a sudden it just doesn't work. The Raiders on the
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: other hand, paid big to get Tyler Linderbaum. They invested
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: in their offensive line. And if you look at ESPN's, um,
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: line of scrimmage rankings, the Raiders went from being the
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: 22nd ranked pass block team last year to number one
• 57:30
  Speaker 8: through two weeks. Again, it's two weeks, but to go
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: from 22nd to number one, I think it shows that
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: they are stabilizing certain elements, and I would say Clint's
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: scheme is a factor in that stabilization.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I got to ask you real quick before I let
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: you go about the Chargers, because they come in here
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: after the Seahawks play in Washington.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: October 4th, week four, Chargers at Seahawks.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: The Chargers are 0-2, having lost at home to the
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Cardinals and then losing to Kubiak's Raiders. What's going on there? Yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is so talented, but how can the Chargers
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: be 0-2 with the teams they've faced so far in
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: a division where they can't afford to give up games?
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be honest. I'm pretty surprised about this. I
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: think some of this does come back to that offensive
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: line and they didn't. I still thought that the Justin Herbert,
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: Mike McDaniel pairing would be a lot more effective than
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: it is. I talked to Mike McDaniel during training camp
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: when I visited them and his belief that offensive lines
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: can't handle defensive lines on average in this league. And
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: so you need to lean into the quick passing game
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: and not rely on the protection being long enough to
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: let most of those plays develop deep. I thought that
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: would be more effective than it is. So far, we're
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: seeing a lot of turnovers and a lot of just,
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know if sloppy is the right way, but
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: they're just not on the same page and it's not
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: very rhythmic in Los Angeles. So I think they still
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: could turn things around, but once you get into some
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: of these habits and you don't have the offensive line
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: giving you a lot of stability and time, I do
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: worry about their ability to get turned around. And then
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: you say, okay, well, what if Mike McDaniel thinks one
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: thing is best philosophically and Harbaugh thinks another? How do
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: you sort through that? So I don't expect them to
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: be much of a problem against Seattle, but we'll see.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: See.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Their next seven games, they could be 0-9. They're at Bills,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: at Seahawks, versus Broncos, at Chiefs, at Rams, versus.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Texans, at Ravens.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: That's their next seven games for the Chargers. They were
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: already 0-2 after losing to the Cardinals and the Raiders.
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: The first two games by exactly 26 to 14. So
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: I hope they can just do that for nine straight weeks.
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: The exact same score.
• 59:36
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: It'll be interesting to see what's going on. So thanks
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  Speaker 13: Oh, but apparently can't talk about Mariners.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm not talking about.
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  Speaker 6: Continue for 890 miles.
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  Speaker 4: 890 miles?
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  Speaker 13: This is what I get for listening to KJR on
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  Speaker 12: 890 miles.
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  Speaker 4: Ball?
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  Speaker 2: No baseball? No Mariners?
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  Speaker 12: It's wrong.
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  Speaker 10: Big Scott here in Tumwater. I say play Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 10: Get that trade value up. Hold him ransom. Get ourselves
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  Speaker 10: a second or third round pick for him. As long
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  Speaker 10: as we make sure Sammy is good. But, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 10: let's get something for the guy. Obviously, he rips up
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  Speaker 10: the Redskins, or Commanders, excuse me, and we're in the money, honey.
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  Speaker 2: So Gene Serator was on with Chuck this morning.
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  Speaker 9: They talked about defensive players punching the ball out. And
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  Speaker 9: one thing they didn't really go deep into, when a
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  Speaker 9: I just want to know if you guys have seen
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  Speaker 9: that that much and if it's been called.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, that's just a terrible thing.
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  Speaker 13: Hey, I'm about 60 miles east of Billings, just past
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  Speaker 13: the University of Minnesota semi-truck bringing all its football equipment
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  Speaker 13: out to get its ass kicked in Husky Stadium.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we do appreciate all those voices.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of drivers today.
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  Speaker 5: Various, various topics.
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  Speaker 2: 890 miles.
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  Speaker 5: 890 bleeping miles. Yes, I do edit these, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the drafting or the trading,
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  Speaker 3: potential trading of Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 2: Because Chuck brought this up to me this morning.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I don't think he would get a
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  Speaker 3: second or third round pick, even to a quarterback desperate team.
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  Speaker 3: Look at, like, Stefan digs to the bills a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years ago. Was that like a conditional fifth or
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  Speaker 3: sixth round pick? And some of the trades of all
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: pro starting players don't net second or third round pick.
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  Speaker 3: So that's one, but more importantly, from Seattle's perspective, Why
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  Speaker 3: the hell would you trade the asset.
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  Speaker 2: You have that nobody else in the league has?
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  Speaker 3: Drew Locke being this good as a backup quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: a luxury item that you planned for.
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  Speaker 2: You made sure this happened by signing. John Schneider signed
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  Speaker 2: him back to a two-year deal just for this case.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't just sign him just to sign him and
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  Speaker 2: have him in the locker room. They had him in
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  Speaker 2: case Sam Darnold got hurt.
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  Speaker 4: As we were talking about earlier, John Schneider does things
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  Speaker 4: for a reason.
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  Speaker 5: It's a trust the process situation.
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  Speaker 2: So why would you trade away that asset? Mike McDonald's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: all about chasing edges, right? He talks about it all
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: the time. It's on T-shirts. It's on signs in the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: locker room.
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  Speaker 3: The first sign you see when you turn a corner
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  Speaker 3: and walk into the locker room is chasing edges. The
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  Speaker 3: edge they chased, they ran down and one was on
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  Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you trade that away?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the new people that people become when they
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: get here, whether it be right out of college through
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: the draft or from a previous organization. I mean, Michael
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: Bennett is a great example of that as well. You
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  Speaker 4: can go back and back and back and look at guys.
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  Speaker 5: Doug Baldwin, undrafted free agent. There's guys that this.
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Rawls.
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  Speaker 5: Thomas Rawls, my guy. Rumble with the Rawls. Muckleshoot Casino,
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  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of examples of rejuvenation here in Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure it's not unique just to Seattle, but
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate what I've seen here. And Drew Locke, he
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  Speaker 4: does have the ability to be a starter, which he
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: has proven.
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  Speaker 5: However... I wouldn't trade him. I would never let go
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: of that. And he seems so happy here.
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  Speaker 2: He does.
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  Speaker 3: And it's true that they may lose him for nothing
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  Speaker 3: or maybe a comp pick, but probably not too... Excuse me,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I have a comp pick because he won't have played
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  Speaker 3: a lot by the end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Comp pick formulas include playing time. But they've got an
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  Speaker 2: advantage over every other team, and then their backup quarterback
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  Speaker 2: is better than anybody else's backup quarterback right now.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you give that up and trade it? I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: don't think that's going to happen. I would be very shocked.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, I'm the guy who said Russell Wilson would
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: never get traded in town.
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  Speaker 2: I'm aware of that.
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  Speaker 3: And there were reasons that I've talked about why I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: said that as strongly as I did, so... I guess
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: never say never. If someone offered John Schneider a first-round
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  Speaker 3: pick for a backup quarterback, he would probably do it,
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  Speaker 3: but they're not going to do that. But I, as
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  Speaker 3: a principal, would say, you've got the edge chased on
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  Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Stay there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck had a Pop-Tart burning his finger this morning.
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  Speaker 5: He's got a blistered thumb.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a blistered thumb from cinnamon Pop-Tart. I got
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  Speaker 3: on him this morning at 7 o'clock on my appearance
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  Speaker 3: with him about why was he eating cinnamon Pop-Tarts.
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  Speaker 12: Those are really good.
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  Speaker 4: Are they?
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  Speaker 5: I haven't eaten Pop-Tarts since I was little.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like the wrong flavor to me.
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  Speaker 5: Which one would you go with?
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  Speaker 2: Cookies and cream, strawberry, the one with the sprinkles on it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, do you want the crusty white frosting or whatever
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  Speaker 4: with the sprinkles on it?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was a kid. I had the strawberry
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  Speaker 2: with the sprinkles. Rainbow sprinkles on it.
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  Speaker 4: My parents didn't keep Pop-Tarts in the house, but my
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  Speaker 4: cousin's parents did. And so anytime I went there, I
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  Speaker 4: was allowed to eat like mini muffins and Pop-Tarts.
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  Speaker 3: 410 says, Greg, I love brown sugar and cinnamon Pop-Tarts.
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  Speaker 2: Then again, I'm a Navy guy, so maybe that's why. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that is why, Mr. Rice 410. Cinnamon's delicious.
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  Speaker 5: And when we would just.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And pretend it was a Pop-Tart.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, either. And I'm not necessarily all that high on
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  Speaker 4: And when I saw that road favorite come in, two
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. That's not
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  Speaker 2: We do.
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  Speaker 2: I do too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: 425.
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  Speaker 3: In trading Drew Locke, it's because he's on a one-year contract. Well,
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  Speaker 3: he's finishing the second of a two-year contract, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the last is in a contract year. And he wants
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  Speaker 3: going to get offered something somewhere. You might as well
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  Speaker 3: trade him for something before you lose him for nothing
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  Speaker 3: but insurance. Well, they could get him for a comp
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  Speaker 3: pick based on how much his salary is currently worth
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  Speaker 3: and playing time. Now, The playing time is going to
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  Speaker 5: But he wants to be here. He re-signed for a reason. 253.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think John Schneider did the right thing by
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  Speaker 3: not re-signing Kenneth Walker?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that. That's a good question. That's
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  Speaker 2: a valuation of the running back situation.
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  Speaker 3: The running back position and how much money you're willing
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  Speaker 3: to commit to it is they made a valuation decision
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't want to commit 15 million or more
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  Speaker 3: a year to that position. And there's injury history and
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  Speaker 3: health declining after a certain age history and precedent behind it.
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  Speaker 3: And they have a ton of studies on this and
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  Speaker 3: that some of their football decisions are made by those
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  Speaker 3: kinds of studies. So that was at play there. And
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  Speaker 3: the chiefs gave them something that they weren't willing to pay.
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  Speaker 3: And now, yes, with Andy Reed using them all over
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  Speaker 3: the place and all kinds of He never got in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: It's looking like, well, wait a minute. And with Jadarian
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Price with his shoulder injury, we'll see how long Price
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: is out.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see. I know why they did it. I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: didn't expect them to pay the money.
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  Speaker 3: The Chiefs did pay Kenneth Walker, and now he's thriving
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: So it's an obvious question. We'll see how this season
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  Speaker 2: plays out. But as of right now, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he made a mistake in doing that. Up next,
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness. He is not injured. He did not get
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  Speaker 4: It seems to be bleep rose downhill.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. He is up next. It tells us on his show,
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  Speaker 2: 12 to 3 on 93.3 KJR FM. Welcome back. Greg Bell,
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  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre. Joined now by Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 3: We were joined earlier by Jory Epstein, the Yahoo Sports
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  Speaker 2: She talked about a ton of things. We covered like
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you the same question I asked
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• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Ready to go?
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  Speaker 12: Are we assuming Darnold's healthy?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: We don't know that yet. But yes, we would assume
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: that Darnold was healthy. For the question's purposes. I think.
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  Speaker 12: I would probably start Locke.
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  Speaker 2: I would too.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah. All things being equal, I just– you should be
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 12: able to take– I mean, it's just so hard because
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  Speaker 12: the NFL is just such a finite thing. Like that
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 12: one game can mean everything.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 12: But what you've seen with Drew Locke is he can
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 12: win football games.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 12: And you're going against– I mean, if you just say
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 12: it's Locke versus Mariota, it's easy answer. You have the advantage.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 12: You're a better football team all the way around.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the second question that's been brought up, Chuck asked
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: me this morning at 7 o'clock, and it got up
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: on the text line just a minute ago.
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  Speaker 2: Would you actively seek a trade for Drew Locke after
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold comes back?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 12: Wait, that's a question?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: That's how we felt, yeah.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: It's become one, apparently, yes. I said the same thing
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: this morning to Chuck.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, you're going to trade
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: away the advantage you have, a huge advantage as a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: backup quarterback who can win?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 12: Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams, Jackson Dart, Jayden Daniels, Kyler Murray,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: Tua Tagovai. guys are all hurt this year. Like, all
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 12: those guys are hurt. And Jackson Dart might be out
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 12: for the year.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Like, no.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 12: That's not even a question.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Well, of course, the question comes up, of course, is
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: because Locke's in the last year of his contract, but
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: that's nothing new there.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 12: It's the win-now league.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: It's a win-now league. This is not, you're not developing,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 12: this is a win-now league with a Super Bowl, defending
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 12: Super Bowl champion.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 12: I don't even think that's even a question. I agree.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Now, Chuck asked me, what if you can get a
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: second or third round pick?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: Who cares?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: And I said, I don't think you can get it. Well,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: they have like 11 picks next year, don't they?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: Yeah, like, no.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: I don't even think if they had six picks, they
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: should do it.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they'd get that high of a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: pick for him either.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 12: We have seen how fragile that position is. Like last night,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 12: that game wasn't competitive when Jackson Dart went out.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 12: It just wasn't competitive.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Because the Giants don't have a backup quarterback as good
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: as the Seahawks do.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 12: And Jameis Winston is a backup for a reason, but
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 12: not even, you know, and in his defense, you're going
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 12: against the Rams defense, thrown into the fire. But even then, no.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that's a question, to be honest with you. Well,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: that came up twice already this morning with me. All right,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: what do you got on the show today? I don't know.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 12: I'm just trying to wrap my arms around that one.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I just dropped that on you.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: He threw a brain teaser into you.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: I agree with 206. Drew Locke is a massive advantage
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: for the Seahawks this season, clearly. Just ask the 87-92 49ers,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: which also happen to win back-to-back Super Bowls.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: Did anybody watch the Atlanta game on Sunday? Like, they
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 12: went down to QB4.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 12: Like, they're non-competitive right now. I mean, to the point
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 12: where they're kind of forcing Pennix back in.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: It's... That just exhausted Ian before his show.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: It is a Tuesday between Sunday games, and that could
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: be part.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 12: Of it as well. We're getting a little college football
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 12: in the first hour today.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 12: A couple things. Boy, Softy said something on Twitter last night.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 12: I couldn't agree with him more. God, this is Nicole Auerbach.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 12: Just if you hate the sport, why are you covering it?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 12: We'll get into that a little bit at, God, and
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 12: it's a week that this, I'm going to feel, I've
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 12: never felt this dirty. I think I'm rooting hard for
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 12: Oregon this week. Or I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. USC, USC, USC, USC. Normally I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 12: root for Oregon because Oregon and Washington, because Washington hates Oregon.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 12: So that makes me like Oregon. Not anymore. We'll get
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 12: to that in a little bit.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: USC-Oregon this weekend.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, huge game. So college football, the Cougs talking Cougs,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 12: MK and Alex at 1220. We'll get our guy Joe Sheehan,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 12: probably his second-to-last visit, coming up at 120 today. And
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: John Lund, he's all happy. 49ers athletic power rankings apparently
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 12: is his favorite thing now because he got the 49ers
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 12: ranked number one, so he's all revved up about that.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 8: 49ers, Niners, Niners.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: I miss Lund.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so we'll get to all that coming up today.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: He is a Bang Bang Niner gang guy, isn't he?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 12: Well, he worked for him, so I guess I can.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 12: And he does radio at KMBR in the Bay Area,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 12: so I can see it. But, yeah, we'll get into that.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 12: All that coming up.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: He ends up next 12 until 3. Greg Bell, Jessalyn McIntyre,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: appreciate you. We'll do it again tomorrow. I'll have the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: pick tomorrow on Factor Fiction.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Ian's pick is a 235 for a chance to win
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: $ 1, 000 from the Lucky Eagle.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Casino and Hotel.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. Thanks for all the text and talk back.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the anecdotes and ideas about my infected sea
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: urchin foot.
• 1:18:35
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• 1:18:37
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• 1:18:39
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