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Ep 27: Becoming the CEO of Your Life with Dr. Una · Clearly Hormonal

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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Welcome to Reset Recharge, the podcast where women's health takes center stage.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Hi everyone.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Welcome back to Reset Recharge.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm your host, Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Komal Patil Sisodia, and today I am so excited to introduce our guest, Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una is a pediatrician.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: She is the founder of Entree md and several other businesses, so not just one, but she is an amazing public speaker.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I had the.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Great pleasure of seeing her speak at the Brave Enough Conference.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: sometime before the pandemic, so it must have been 2018- 2019.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When I was contemplating opening my own practice.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I was out on leave after a surgery and I was telling Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una that I binged her podcast like it was going outta style.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I read all of her books and I credit a lot of what she has put out there for me, starting my own practice.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Eastside Menopause and Metabolism.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Welcome Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una, thank you so much for joining us today.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And today we're going to be talking about how you got to be such an amazing multihyphenate and how your journey started.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I'd love for you to take the stage and tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got to be in such a position where you're building such amazing businesses and helping so many physicians.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: So first of all, thank you for, um, having me on the show, and I don't think I'll ever get tired of hearing your story.
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Dr. Una: I was on a hi the entire time we talked.
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Dr. Una: I was like, oh my goodness.
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Dr. Una: The podcast is helping people, you know, but then, it's nice to hear.
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Dr. Una: So congrats on all that you have built.
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Dr. Una: That's so cool.
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Dr. Una: Um, but I tell my story.
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Dr. Una: I like to start from the very beginning just because, I run five businesses.
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Dr. Una: rem d has been on the Inc 5,000 list of fastest growing privately held companies for three years in a row and all of that stuff.
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Dr. Una: And it makes it seem like, oh my goodness, she has it all together.
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Dr. Una: And so I like to start from the beginning.
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Dr. Una: Okay.
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Dr. Una: So when I graduated from residency, um, in 2008, my pediatric residency, like every normal pediatrician, I got a job.
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Dr. Una: And it was a really great job.
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Dr. Una: Um, you know, my boss, the person who owned the practice was a neonatologist.
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Dr. Una: So because of conflict of interest, you couldn't work in the practice.
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Dr. Una: So technically I was like a solo pediatrician, if you will.
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Dr. Una: and so I was, I was running that, it was 10 minutes, barely 10 minutes from my home.
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Dr. Una: Uh, so very close.
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Dr. Una: I'd go back home for lunch every day and all of that.
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Dr. Una: It was, it was fantastic.
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Dr. Una: Um, I had no intentions of starting a, a practice I identified as a socially awkward, super shy, introverted introvert.
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Dr. Una: So I was not the person to start a private practice.
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Dr. Una: Um, but you know, my boss came to me after first nine months or so and he said, um, you know, here's a contract I like working with you.
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Dr. Una: Here's a contract, a five year contract.
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Dr. Una: And I'm going like, okay.
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Dr. Una: I did three years of residency, which felt like forever.
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Dr. Una: Yeah, I've been married for three years, which feels like forever.
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Dr. Una: Not,'cause I'm not in Germany, but it seems like a really long time.
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Dr. Una: So my frame of a long time was three.
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Dr. Una: So five is like eternity.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: And I'm like, okay, I can't sign this contract and besides we are moving, so I actually need to leave after my year here.
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Dr. Una: And she said, okay, so if you won't stay, you should start your own practice.
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Dr. Una: Right.
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Dr. Una: And so I tell people I'm an accidental entrepreneur because when he told me that, I'm like, okay, nobody starts a private practice 15 months out of residency and in case you miss this ginormous bump here, I'm pregnant.
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Dr. Una: This is not the time to start a practice.
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Dr. Una: And so he said, no, in the beginning the practice will need you a little, the baby will need you a lot.
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Dr. Una: And as the baby gets older, the baby will need you less and the practice will need you more.
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Dr. Una: It'll be perfect.
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Dr. Una: It's the perfect time to start.
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Dr. Una: If you have questions, I'll answer them.
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Dr. Una: And so I was like, okay, he's crazy.
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Dr. Una: Okay.
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Dr. Una: And then I had a conversation with my husband.
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Dr. Una: We're like, oh, you know, interesting, maybe in five years, whatever.
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Dr. Una: And then we had a mentor come visit us and you know, he's like, okay, I want you guys to start thinking about owning your own business, owning your own practice.
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Dr. Una: I'm like, what is going on?
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Dr. Una: Like, do these people not understand these things work?
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Dr. Una: A lot of signs
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: coming your way.
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Dr. Una: And so, and then I said, well, you know, let me start exploring it.
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Dr. Una: But see.
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Dr. Una: My philosophy was, hang the shingle and they will come.
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Dr. Una: this is the way I thought business worked.
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Dr. Una: And so after a while, you know, we started, you know, I started researching practices like, what do people like about'em?
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Dr. Una: What don't they like, what kind of services they offer?
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Dr. Una: All these things.
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Dr. Una: and so every time I looked at it, it became more and more believable.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: And so, you know, here I was, you know, just had the baby baby was probably, uh, four months old at the time, you know, so we, we, we got a location.
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Dr. Una: We started a practice.
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Dr. Una: Okay.
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Dr. Una: And then I hung the shingle and then the people didn't come.
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Dr. Una: Oh.
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Dr. Una: Because it was not anywhere near the practice.
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Dr. Una: I was, it was an hour away from the practice I worked at.
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Dr. Una: And I was like, wait, you mean I have to go market?
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Dr. Una: You mean I have to go tell people about my practice?
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Dr. Una: and so I was so, like, if I could have gotten out of my lease and everything, I would've shut down the practice.
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Dr. Una: 'cause I was like, if that's what it takes, I'm not doing that.
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Dr. Una: Like, I'm not going to tell somebody come refer.
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Dr. Una: I'm a professional.
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Dr. Una: We don't market, we don't sell, we don't do things like that.
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Dr. Una: And so I was just, you know, kind of struggling along, if you will.
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Dr. Una: And then I remember reading a book by Brian Tracy.
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Dr. Una: It's called Eat That Frog.
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Dr. Una: If you're listening and you have not read that book, you must read this book.
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Dr. Una: It is, it's always, it's a bestseller on Amazon.
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Dr. Una: I'm convinced.
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Dr. Una: It's'cause of me.
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Dr. Una: I tell everybody to go buy it, but yeah, one of the ones I bought.
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Dr. Una: Yeah, I mean it.
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Dr. Una: It's fantastic.
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Dr. Una: And then in this book, he makes this statement.
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Dr. Una: He says, all business skills are learnable.
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Dr. Una: This was the beginning of the starting point for me.
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Dr. Una: I did not see a pathway for success as an entrepreneur.
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Dr. Una: I couldn't see it, but I said, all business skills are learnable.
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Dr. Una: I said, hold on.
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Dr. Una: I said, I may not know marketing.
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Dr. Una: I may not know sales.
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Dr. Una: I may break out in hives when I see a profit and loss statement, but if there's something I know how to do, I know how to learn.
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Dr. Una: That I know how to do.
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Dr. Una: And so he said, if you see somebody who's running a better business than yours, they're not better than you.
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Dr. Una: They just know things you don't know.
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Dr. Una: I'm like, hang on, I can know things.
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Dr. Una: I'm a whole physician.
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Dr. Una: I know how to know things.
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Dr. Una: So it put me, it gave the power back to me, right?
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Dr. Una: Like this was no longer maybe, maybe not.
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Dr. Una: I, I now have control again.
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Dr. Una: I was like, okay, I don't know how to market.
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Dr. Una: I can learn.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to sell.
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Dr. Una: I can learn.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to hire.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to lead a team.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to build company culture.
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Dr. Una: I don't know what to do with the profit and loss statement.
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Dr. Una: I can learn all these things.
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Dr. Una: Then I started learning.
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Dr. Una: That's fabulous.
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Dr. Una: And that was the turning point.
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Dr. Una: That was the theme that changed everything.
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Dr. Una: And when I look now, every big leap I've made in business has been because of a new thing I've decided to learn.
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Dr. Una: That's what it's been.
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Dr. Una: And so I went from, then I owned the practice, then we got it working, we got it profitable.
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Dr. Una: I think we hit our first million within the first three years or so.
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Dr. Una: Um, and that's not without any of the things I know now that I teach people, right?
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Dr. Una: And so we got to the first million, and then I learned you can build your business as a business asset so it can work without you.
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Dr. Una: I was like, oh, and that comes, you know, from the way you build your team and all that.
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Dr. Una: I was like, no kidding.
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Dr. Una: And so I started learning that I, I couldn't bring myself to hire another physician.
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Dr. Una: I thought you know, six figures, multiple six figures on my payroll.
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Dr. Una: I was like, oh my goodness.
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Dr. Una: I, you know, I couldn't do that, but I could get someone who wanted to work once a day, once a week.
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Dr. Una: And I was like, well, why don't we do that?
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Dr. Una: She worked every Friday, um, and had a long weekend every weekend.
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Dr. Una: It was just magical.
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Dr. Una: And then I got a nurse practitioner, then I got a doctor and all of those things.
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Dr. Una: And each time I was removing myself more and more where the practice didn't fully depend on me.
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Dr. Una: Right.
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Dr. Una: And then in 20 16, 20 20 16, which is hard to think about it like it's nine years ago, if you will.
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Dr. Una: And I had this awareness medicine as we know it is gone.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: And if all you know how to do is how to put hands on patients and take care of them, you're gonna be out of luck.
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Dr. Una: You need to learn how to run a business.
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Dr. Una: You're gonna need to learn how to be a consultant.
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Dr. Una: You're gonna like, like spread your wing, learn other skills, stack skills so that if something happens here, you have this.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
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Dr. Una: And I'm like, I don't know how to do that.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to speak on stage.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to be a consultant.
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Dr. Una: I don't know how to write, I don't know how to do any of those things.
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Dr. Una: But I knew that if I don't learn it.
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Dr. Una: It is gonna be ugly.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: And so I started learning those skills and then halfway I was like, wait a minute.
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Dr. Una: it's not gonna be ugly for me.
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Dr. Una: It's gonna be ugly for a million physicians.
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Dr. Una: Yes.
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Dr. Una: And I said, okay, and I can't wait to learn all this and then come teach people.
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Dr. Una: I was like, let me teach'em now.
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Dr. Una: That's literally how on Train D started.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's such a beautiful story.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Honestly.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's um, you know, there's so many points to this one that your first job, your first boss saw the value in you to where he wanted to lock you in for five years.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And a lot of times as physicians, we don't see that intrinsic value in ourselves.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I read somewhere that you're only as valuable as you believe because everybody else in the room knows your value.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You're the only one who doesn't.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So, you know, kudos to you for recognizing that and realizing you did not wanna get locked in for five years.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And then I think just the mindset of going to back to our roots and saying, I can learn these things.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I can grow these things.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's so inspiring.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I, my podcast, I know you and I went back and forth a little bit initially is all about women's health And all of these different.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Eras of a woman's life where she is finding these different shifts and how do you start something new?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: How do you continue to build, how do you create the life that you want?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I found your story so inspiring.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So, you know, I think that hearing that, and knowing that you were going through this as a pretty young mother as you were building and scaling your businesses, I would love to hear from you how you navigated that, right?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because I think that's really what all of my listeners are wanting to know is how do I navigate all these life changes that I'm going through no matter what stage of life I'm in, and how do I create this joy and this abundance and this wealth that is something that I can hold onto for myself, right?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And wealth has a different definition for everybody, right?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's not just about dollars, it's about your time.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's about spending time with your family.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's about making sure that you're taking care of yourself and you have really.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Done a phenomenal job of building that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I've been so inspired.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I'm gonna transition us to, I wanna hear about your journey through motherhood and how you did all of this.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: That, that's a very interesting piece.
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Dr. Una: And I think I wanna start by saying something, just so you know, everybody knows we're all on the same page, um, which is, you know, when it was time for us to buy a car, when we had two kids, I have four.
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Dr. Una: Mm-hmm.
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Dr. Una: Um, my husband's like, oh, let's get this van.
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Dr. Una: And I was like, I don't want a van.
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Dr. Una: and he was wondering like, why this reaction?
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Dr. Una: And I started wondering like, why this reaction?
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Dr. Una: But the thing for me, and I'm not being critical of anybody, I'm just saying what happened to me.
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Dr. Una: The thing for me was it gave me this picture of I'm gonna be, that now I'm a soccer mom, and that my education was a waste and I'm not gonna move forward in my career.
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Dr. Una: I'm just gonna have all these kids and they're gonna be burping all over me and I don't have any other identity except a mom.
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Dr. Una: Right?
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: And so I had this.
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Dr. Una: Desire to be a mom, but to also, you know, be a high performer and all of those things.
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Dr. Una: So a van made it seem like this is going away.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: the van was the symbol.
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Dr. Una: It was the symbol, like it's all gone.
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Dr. Una: But, so anyway, when I started the job that I referenced, um, I had one child, okay?
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Dr. Una: And, you know, when he was talking to me about signing the five year contract, I was pregnant with my second, there's 15 months between them.
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Dr. Una: So we're talking two itty bitty kids, right?
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Dr. Una: when I first started the practice.
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Dr. Una: And so at that stage in motherhood, I didn't understand that motherhood looks many different ways, right?
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Dr. Una: So, you know, first, you know, I'm a mom.
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Dr. Una: Second of all my foundation, I'm African and all this stuff.
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Dr. Una: So I'm thinking I have to do all the cooking, all the cleaning, all the, like, everything.
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Dr. Una: Like to be a good mom, I have to do all of these things.
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Dr. Una: And so I remember, you know, when we started the practice and then I come back, I'm trying to cook, I'm trying to do all this stuff.
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Dr. Una: My husband's like, what are you doing?
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Dr. Una: I like, I'm cooking.
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Dr. Una: That's what I'm doing.
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Dr. Una: Like, what do you think I'm doing?
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Dr. Una: And he's like, you have to choose.
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Dr. Una: Like do you want the life you're trying to build?
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Dr. Una: If you do, you can't do everything.
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Dr. Una: You have to get help, you have to delegate things, you have to get things off your plate like it cooking.
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Dr. Una: Is this really the best use of your time now?
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Dr. Una: And to, to put, to put it in perspective, for some people they love to cook.
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Dr. Una: It's their love like is not like, I have not cooked since 2016 and I'm not bothered by it.
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Dr. Una: Okay?
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Dr. Una: so if it's something enough to do, if it's self-care for you, please do it.
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Dr. Una: It is the opposite of self-care for me.
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Dr. Una: So he started selling me on this concept of for you to take on new things you have to give.
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Dr. Una: All things, and there's some things only you can do for your kid, but there are all these other things like you don't have to do.
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Dr. Una: And so that's where I learned this concept of I'm the CEO of my business, but I'm also the CEO of my home.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
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Dr. Una: Right?
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Dr. Una: Like I'm a CEO in both places and nobody thinks a CEO functions without a team.
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Dr. Una: And so I have a team in my businesses and I have a team at home.
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Dr. Una: Some of the team members are paid, some of them unpaid, some of them are my own kids, but I have a team and I'm not doing things by myself.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: Now my oldest is 17, so I've had a lot of experience.
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Dr. Una: I didn't start where I'm now, but that's where I started learning that.
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Dr. Una: Right.
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Dr. Una: Okay.
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Dr. Una: So then I'd have someone who come do the cooking.
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Dr. Una: I had someone who come do the cleaning and all of these things, but somewhere along the line, I had two more kids.
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Dr. Una: So now we're talking established business and third kid and fourth kid, right?
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Dr. Una: And, I wanna, you know, for somebody, this may be the thing that gives them permission, I don't know.
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Dr. Una: But with my third daughter now at this point, my husband and I, we also pastor a church.
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Dr. Una: And so I have a lot of mentees, right?
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Dr. Una: The people, you know, I'm mentoring, I'm doing all this stuff with, and I'm like, oh, every mentorship relationship is a women's situation.
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Dr. Una: That's how we're gonna do this.
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Dr. Una: So can I help with the baby?
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Dr. Una: Of course you can.
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Dr. Una: Here's the laundry, here's this, here's the, that.
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Dr. Una: And you've always slept over at my house.
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Dr. Una: Anyway, now it's a good time to sleep over for a few nights and you watch the baby, I'm going to bed, right?
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Dr. Una: And stuff like that.
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Dr. Una: So I took a lot of help.
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Dr. Una: Like I had a whole village with me, right?
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Dr. Una: With, with the third.
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Dr. Una: And I was older.
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Dr. Una: I was just like, you know, by baby number three, you're over it by baby number four.
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Dr. Una: I think I was up at night with her for nine nights.
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Dr. Una: Oh my gosh.
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Dr. Una: That was it.
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Dr. Una: I told my mentees, y'all make a roster.
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Dr. Una: You know, you have your nights and all that.
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Dr. Una: If you need me, my phone will be on call me.
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Dr. Una: Oh my gosh.
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Dr. Una: 'cause for me, if I sleep at night, I can do anything.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: If I'm up at night, I can do nothing.
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Dr. Una: Like, that's kind of the way I just like, I'm just gonna sleep.
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Dr. Una: I'll watch the baby during the day and all that so I can be a functional human being.
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Dr. Una: And so I enjoyed having the last two because I had a whole village.
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Dr. Una: I had all this help, you know what I mean?
15:30
Dr. Una: Yeah.
15:30
Dr. Una: And stuff like that.
15:32
Dr. Una: Now, as the kids got older, then I started recruiting them as well.
15:37
Dr. Una: Right.
15:38
Dr. Una: So I had a mom who was telling me, I was at an event, she was telling me about what to do with her 15-year-old, how she, she doesn't have enough time to clean her 15 year old's room.
15:46
Dr. Una: I'm like, what?
15:49
Dr. Una: I'm like, no ma'am.
15:50
Dr. Una: No sir.
15:50
Dr. Una: That is not, you know what I mean?
15:51
Dr. Una: And, but I started recruiting them.
15:54
Dr. Una: So for instance, my 17-year-old, when she turned 14 or 15, I stopped.
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Dr. Una: Like I, I stopped doing grocery shopping a long, a long time ago, but if she wanted to do grocery shopping or whatever, I'd drive her.
16:08
Dr. Una: I'd park in the parking lot and do whatever I wanted to do.
16:10
Dr. Una: And I'm like, here's the car.
16:11
Dr. Una: May the force be with you.
16:12
Dr. Una: Right.
16:13
Dr. Una: So I don't, I don't do any of those things.
16:14
Dr. Una: Right.
16:15
Dr. Una: I don't do laundry.
16:15
Dr. Una: Like you guys can figure this out.
16:17
Dr. Una: I don't plan parties.
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Dr. Una: My 17-year-old plans, the party does the shopping.
16:22
Dr. Una: I attend the party.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's so fabulous.
16:25
Dr. Una: You do what I mean.
16:26
Dr. Una: So I recruit my mentees.
16:28
Dr. Una: I have people I pay, you know, like that are part of my paid team.
16:31
Dr. Una: I have my kids.
16:32
Dr. Una: But the point is I tap into all the resources I have and I don't try to do things on my own.
16:39
Dr. Una: Right.
16:39
Dr. Una: And it took me a long time to learn this lesson so for someone listening watching, I would just say start.
16:46
Dr. Una: Just start by taking inventory of everything you do.
16:49
Dr. Una: Yeah.
16:50
Dr. Una: And you find out there's so many things you do that you don't need to do.
16:54
Dr. Una: You have people in your world right now.
16:57
Dr. Una: Who will do those things for you, right?
16:59
Dr. Una: We had a doc who came into the re business school and she had been doing everything.
17:04
Dr. Una: She was overwhelmed, like she, you know, couldn't think burnout, all of that stuff.
17:09
Dr. Una: And we started teaching these concepts and she's like, I spend two to three hours every day getting my kids back from school, taking them to sports practice, all of these things.
17:19
Dr. Una: And I have people who have been like, they can carpool with us, they can carpool.
17:23
Dr. Una: And I kept saying no.
17:24
Dr. Una: I'm like, look, you have a whole team.
17:26
Dr. Una: She bought back within her first two weeks in the school, she bought back 10 hours a week.
17:31
Dr. Una: That's amazing.
17:32
Dr. Una: 10 hours.
17:33
Dr. Una: But it just comes from, for a mom, for a woman is so important.
17:38
Dr. Una: Like you are the CEO of your home.
17:40
Dr. Una: There is no reward ceremony for the person who did it by themselves.
17:43
Dr. Una: Like none, right?
17:45
Dr. Una: Like get all the help you can.
17:48
Dr. Una: So I do a lot of things.
17:49
Dr. Una: I run five companies, we co-pastor, church, I homeschool my four kids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
17:53
Dr. Una: And I'm good.
17:54
Dr. Una: 'cause I have so many people helping me.
17:58
Dr. Una: I have a lot of team.
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Dr. Una: And they take care of business.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
18:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Well, and, and I think that's fabulous that your husband was the one to pointed out to you.
18:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
18:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think having a partner who sees that potential in you and wants to enable your dreams is fantastic.
18:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: My husband is very much the same way and I'll be doing stuff and he's like, you don't need to be doing that.
18:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You don't need to be doing that.
18:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I think, you know, for a lot of women as society has conditioned them as culture has conditioned them, right?
18:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I mean, I'm the eldest daughter in an Indian family.
18:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's a, there are certain expectations that come along with how you are supposed to present, how you're supposed to put everybody's needs.
18:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Ahead of your own.
18:41
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And so to see somebody who is from, you know, similar cultural background, I feel like African and Indian culture is pretty, pretty similar.
18:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Be able to, with the help of a supportive partner and her village, continue to build and navigate all of these different facets of your life.
18:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's a remarkable story and it is so, so inspiring.
19:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I actually was, uh, I don't know if it was one of your podcasts, it was something I ended up hiring a virtual medical assistant and then one of my friend's daughters who is phenomenal, she does not know if she wants to go into medical school, but she's also highly gifted at arts and design and has like just many interests.
19:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I asked her to do like three things.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: She did three plus eight more and I was like, oh my goodness, I got so much time back, like seven hours of stuff that she did for me that I don't have to do now.
19:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it's really, um.
19:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When you tap into that village that you have, but you don't realize that you have, it will change your life.
19:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I love that you shared that story.
19:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It inspired me.
19:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You know, another way that I, I've been inspired by this whole process, so thank you for sharing that.
19:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: How do you get to, you know, for some of our listeners, sometimes, you know, there may not be the supportive framework that's around you, right?
19:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: How do you start in those situations?
20:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because you help a lot of physicians, how do you help them cultivate that mindset of realizing that they deserve it or that they are capable of going out and seeking that if the framework is not already there?
20:17
Dr. Una: Yeah, so that's a, that's a great question.
20:20
Dr. Una: So the starting points would be, um, putting yourself in a container where.
20:29
Dr. Una: The understanding of this is normalized.
20:31
Dr. Una: Yeah.
20:32
Dr. Una: Right.
20:32
Dr. Una: Like, because yes, for most people, you're, you know, you're a physician or it depends on your culture and all of those things.
20:37
Dr. Una: This is not an acceptable thing, right?
20:40
Dr. Una: Like me saying, you know, like, I haven't cooked since 2016.
20:43
Dr. Una: I'm not gonna be in a Nigerian party and say that, right?
20:46
Dr. Una: Because I may have things thrown at me.
20:49
Dr. Una: You know what I'm saying?
20:50
Dr. Una: And so it's fine.
20:53
Dr. Una: But if you're gonna be a high performer, yeah.
20:56
Dr. Una: If you're gonna be a person who, like for me, my driver is I wanna maximize my potential.
21:04
Dr. Una: I wanna be all I can be.
21:06
Dr. Una: I wanna do all I can do.
21:07
Dr. Una: I wanna have all I can have.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
21:09
Dr. Una: I wanna die with a smile on my face.
21:11
Dr. Una: Like I did it all.
21:12
Dr. Una: Like, let's go.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
21:14
Dr. Una: And so if you want that or any variation of that, you can't do what everybody's doing.
21:20
Dr. Una: Because if everybody was doing it, and it'll get them there, they'll be there.
21:23
Dr. Una: But most people are not going to do that.
21:25
Dr. Una: Most people are not gonna realize potential.
21:27
Dr. Una: And so if you are going to realize potential, you have to go, like, I'm willing to go on a different path To start with.
21:34
Dr. Una: And so you can't worry about what other people think and all of that stuff, because clearly, like Dr.
21:38
Dr. Una: Kamal, you're an example, right?
21:40
Dr. Una: I'm an example.
21:40
Dr. Una: You have a podcast.
21:41
Dr. Una: I have a podcast, and there are many other examples.
21:44
Dr. Una: You wanna continue listening to that as opposed to listening to the noise.
21:49
Dr. Una: And the more you listen, the more it can seem normal for you, the more you'll see, okay, I deserve this.
21:55
Dr. Una: The more you'll see, you may not even think you deserve it.
21:57
Dr. Una: You may start with, I'm gonna try that.
21:59
Dr. Una: and you try it and for like you, when you got seven hours back, seven hours, you feel like a brand new person.
22:04
Dr. Una: You're just like, oh my goodness, where has life been?
22:08
Dr. Una: And so once you start experiencing that, then you won't worry about the noise anymore.
22:11
Dr. Una: 'cause you're like, forget that you don't know.
22:12
Dr. Una: You don't know what it's like.
22:14
Dr. Una: So I think the first thing is keeping yourself around these kind of conversations.
22:19
Dr. Una: Um, so it normalizes it, right?
22:22
Dr. Una: 'cause for most people it's abnormal.
22:23
Dr. Una: The second thing is, you know the journey I told you about, again, my daughter is 17, so this is a 17-year-old snapshot that I said in three minutes.
22:32
Dr. Una: And so start from where you are right now.
22:36
Dr. Una: You have at least.
22:39
Dr. Una: You know, 27 things you can delegate.
22:41
Dr. Una: Yeah.
22:42
Dr. Una: And in your world there's somebody you can delegate it to or you can hire a va.
22:46
Dr. Una: Right?
22:46
Dr. Una: Like you can start from there.
22:47
Dr. Una: It's not a very expensive thing.
22:49
Dr. Una: You can start from there and start practicing getting things off your plate and let me put it in this container.
22:55
Dr. Una: So it'll make you think about it in a strategic way, right?
22:58
Dr. Una: You're practicing functioning at your highest level.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
23:04
Dr. Una: You are practicing using your time to do the highest level activity.
23:08
Dr. Una: Yeah.
23:08
Dr. Una: You're practicing using your time to do what only you can do.
23:11
Dr. Una: Right.
23:12
Dr. Una: And so each time you get something off your plate, you're getting better at doing that.
23:17
Dr. Una: So you don't have to start by getting everything off your plate.
23:20
Dr. Una: Right.
23:20
Dr. Una: 'cause my list is very long.
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Dr. Una: I don't cook, I don't clean, I don't do laundry.
23:24
Dr. Una: I don't shop.
23:25
Dr. Una: I don't shop for grocery.
23:25
Dr. Una: I don't shop for clothes I don't like, I don't plan parties.
23:28
Dr. Una: I don't even, my own events, I don't do like, so there's so many things I don't do.
23:32
Dr. Una: But of course I didn't start there.
23:34
Dr. Una: Right, right.
23:34
Dr. Una: I started fighting my husband not fighting like, but you know, like, yes, I must cook.
23:38
Dr. Una: Like what?
23:39
Dr. Una: Cook what?
23:40
Dr. Una: You know what I'm saying?
23:40
Dr. Una: That's where I started from.
23:42
Dr. Una: so you start from where you are a big, so what you want is progress over perfection.
23:48
Dr. Una: Progress is the new perfection, right?
23:50
Dr. Una: And so if all you did over the next week, the next two weeks is that you successfully got something off your plate.
23:57
Dr. Una: Yes.
23:57
Dr. Una: That's awesome.
23:58
Dr. Una: Now let's get another thing and another thing.
24:00
Dr. Una: Then five things, then 10 things, then the whole system, right?
24:03
Dr. Una: Like, but that's how it starts.
24:04
Dr. Una: So start from where you are, but don't accept that this is abnormal or it's out of reach or it's not.
24:10
Dr. Una: We've just been in.
24:12
Dr. Una: Communities where self-sacrifice is glorified, and you now have to have a new way of thinking.
24:18
Dr. Una: And don't be afraid to not be like everyone else.
24:22
Dr. Una: Because if you want to be a high performer, you cannot be like anybody else.
24:25
Dr. Una: If you wanna be the person who goes to the Olympics, the people going to the Olympics know they can't be like anybody else.
24:30
Dr. Una: And NBA champion knows they can't be like anybody else.
24:33
Dr. Una: In fact, as a physician, you knew you couldn't be like everybody else.
24:36
Dr. Una: Very true.
24:36
Dr. Una: There were things other people did in college you didn't do.
24:39
Dr. Una: Right.
24:39
Dr. Una: Because you're like, I have somewhere to be.
24:41
Dr. Una: Yeah.
24:42
Dr. Una: You know, so just, you've, you've gone on the narrow path.
24:45
Dr. Una: So just get off the broad path and continue on the narrow path.
24:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's such a beautiful statement, and I love how you have framed that about narrowing your focus into what you need to be doing for yourself.
24:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So when you are, looking at.
25:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Time management.
25:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
25:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because you've talked all about now the tasks that you've delegated with the time that you do have.
25:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: How do you pull that together and how do you get excellent at time management?
25:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because I think this is something that a lot of people struggle with.
25:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Doom scrolling is a thing, wasting time doing tasks that you don't need to be doing right.
25:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Sometimes that is such a form of procrastination and I know when I was first launching my practice, I was doing that.
25:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So my husband amazing at what he does, has been in digital marketing.
25:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: PR has worked with very high end clients.
25:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Offered to build me my website, sweetest thing ever.
25:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I gave him feedback and it was in very doctorly fashion where it was like this, this, this, this.
25:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And he was like, could you be a little nicer maybe?
25:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I said, I'm so sorry.
25:52
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I, you know what?
25:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'll just do it myself.
25:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And he, he, you know, he was like, okay, she needs just this like 36 hours to do whatever.
25:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I sat in my office, I was sitting there toiling with Squarespace, creating color palettes, things.
26:05
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I know nothing about Dr.
26:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Uno, right?
26:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And 36 hours later, my husband walks in and he goes, honey, I think it is amazing that you have the confidence that you think you can learn in 36 hours.
26:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: What?
26:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It has taken people decades to perfect for their craft.
26:23
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I need you to get out of your office and let me do it right.
26:26
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: He's like, you, you have no business doing this at all.
26:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You're wasting time.
26:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Go work on something that matters.
26:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And for me, it was like a light bulb went off.
26:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I was like, you know what?
26:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You're right.
26:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You are correct.
26:38
Dr. Una: This has to be one of the funniest things I heard in 2025.
26:41
Dr. Una: That is so cool.
26:43
Dr. Una: You tell the experts back off,
26:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: okay?
26:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
26:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I we'll take care of this.
26:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
26:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Me, me who went to medical school and has exactly a goose eggs worth design expert, I'm gonna design my own website and I'm gonna do it.
26:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Great.
26:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
26:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And he was like, you and greats compared
26:59
Dr. Una: to the experts.
27:03
Dr. Una: I'm blind confidence, Dr.
27:05
Dr. Una: Un.
27:05
Dr. Una: This is so fun.
27:06
Dr. Una: You tell him I said hi, and I'm very proud of him and he's a man.
27:09
Dr. Una: Okay.
27:10
Dr. Una: I'll, I'll tell him.
27:11
Dr. Una: That's what you tell him.
27:12
Dr. Una: Okay.
27:13
Dr. Una: Um, but that is, and I'm laughing because I've done stuff like that, so I'm not laughing at you, I'm just Oh, no, no.
27:18
Dr. Una: I know that I'm laughing at us.
27:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So, I mean, it's a thing, right?
27:21
Dr. Una: Yeah.
27:22
Dr. Una: So you ask a question that, um, is a very important question and.
27:30
Dr. Una: It is a thing we never fully master.
27:34
Dr. Una: We just keep mastering it.
27:36
Dr. Una: More and more, like one of the biggest projects I'm working on now is how to use my time at the highest capacity.
27:44
Dr. Una: Meanwhile, I've been studying this for at least 15 years.
27:47
Dr. Una: So when it comes to managing time, there're two big, almost like premises overarching concepts we have to think about.
27:57
Dr. Una: And the first is we have to know where we're trying to go, right?
28:02
Dr. Una: Like what are our goals to start with and suddenly say, yeah, goals, I know what that is.
28:08
Dr. Una: Great.
28:09
Dr. Una: Do you have them?
28:10
Dr. Una: Are they written?
28:11
Dr. Una: When was the last time you looked at them?
28:12
Dr. Una: Because if they're outta sight outta mind, you wrote them in December and celebrated and whatever, and that's it.
28:18
Dr. Una: You don't have goals because every 24 hour.
28:23
Dr. Una: Every week, every month is a gift given to you to go somewhere.
28:30
Dr. Una: That's the whole point.
28:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: that's so true.
28:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
28:33
Dr. Una: And so if you don't know where somewhere is, then the chances are you would waste every day, every week, every month, every year.
28:41
Dr. Una: And most people do that.
28:44
Dr. Una: That's why I'm so excited about the question.
28:46
Dr. Una: And so it's like getting into your car.
28:48
Dr. Una: You have the GPS, you don't put the address in, and you just drive.
28:53
Dr. Una: What are the odds that you get to somewhere remark, like very close to zero, right?
28:58
Dr. Una: Like so no destination, nothing, right?
29:01
Dr. Una: Yes.
29:02
Dr. Una: And so if we don't have that, then we don't really, it's, you know, we would be very productive.
29:09
Dr. Una: And I really want to not gloss over this too quickly.
29:12
Dr. Una: So for instance, in 2015, you may have heard me say this on the podcast.
29:16
Dr. Una: In 2015, December of 2015, I was setting my goals for 2016.
29:20
Dr. Una: Now mind you, at this time I already had a, you know, a profitable private practice, all this stuff.
29:24
Dr. Una: We had all these things going on, and I finished writing out my goals for 2016.
29:30
Dr. Una: And for some reason, after I was done with that, I stumbled on my 2015 goals.
29:38
Dr. Una: So these are the goals I wrote December, 2014 for 2015.
29:41
Dr. Una: It was in a different place.
29:42
Dr. Una: It was out of sight.
29:43
Dr. Una: And I put them side by side.
29:47
Dr. Una: They were almost identical.
29:52
Dr. Una: I'm looking at it like, yeah.
29:55
Dr. Una: Almost identical.
29:57
Dr. Una: Oh my God.
29:57
Dr. Una: Now, Would you say I wasn't productive?
29:59
Dr. Una: You can't say that.
29:59
Dr. Una: Did I have a private practice?
30:00
Dr. Una: I was working, yes, but I didn't do much to go where I wanted to go, and I didn't get.
30:09
Dr. Una: Ugh.
30:09
Dr. Una: It is a very so, because again, I am grateful, I found that out in 2015.
30:14
Dr. Una: Yeah.
30:15
Dr. Una: I could have found this out in 2040.
30:17
Dr. Una: Yeah.
30:19
Dr. Una: You see what I'm saying?
30:19
Dr. Una: So this, the starting point is where, where are we going?
30:24
Dr. Una: Okay.
30:24
Dr. Una: So I talk about the nine areas of life and all the areas where we need to set goals.
30:28
Dr. Una: A little too much for this conversation, but we need to have that right on on one side.
30:35
Dr. Una: And then on the other side, we need to have focus.
30:41
Dr. Una: And what that means is the goal, what I set out to do today, what I set out to do for this week, what I set out to do for this month needs to all be tied to where I'm going.
30:50
Dr. Una: They can't be disconnected, right?
30:52
Dr. Una: If I wanna be the person.
30:54
Dr. Una: Who would be a high flyer, high performer creating quantum leaps in my life every 90 days where every year I'm unrecognizable to myself and my world.
31:01
Dr. Una: If you wanna do that, you gotta have where you're going, and then everything you do needs to kind of take you there.
31:06
Dr. Una: Now someone say, oh, that's too regimented.
31:08
Dr. Una: What about fun?
31:09
Dr. Una: Okay, so the nine areas of life fun is one of them.
31:12
Dr. Una: Yes.
31:13
Dr. Una: Right?
31:13
Dr. Una: So it's, it's, it's your whole life, right?
31:16
Dr. Una: So they, they need to be linked.
31:17
Dr. Una: Okay?
31:18
Dr. Una: Now, once we have those two, the question then becomes, if I really want to go to the place I said I want to go to, what are the most important activities I need to do to get there?
31:30
Dr. Una: And then if you can, that only I can do.
31:34
Dr. Una: Because if you are clear on what those are, then you put yourself in a position where every day you're doing the most important things that will take you where you want to go.
31:47
Dr. Una: Otherwise you have a Dr.
31:49
Dr. Una: Una 2015 experience and you don't want that.
31:52
Dr. Una: I took one for the team.
31:53
Dr. Una: Nobody should do that.
31:54
Dr. Una: Right?
31:56
Dr. Una: Nobody should do that.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Una: So between the last time we spoken now, and this is the way my world works, I created a journal.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: cold.
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Dr. Una: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's another book I need to buy.
32:06
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Is it for sale?
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Dr. Una: it's Oh, amazing.
32:09
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay.
32:09
Dr. Una: I wanna tell you the beauty of it.
32:11
Dr. Una: Yeah.
32:11
Dr. Una: Because it lets me do those two things, right?
32:16
Dr. Una: Yeah.
32:16
Dr. Una: So it's a journal you use twice a week.
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Dr. Una: Okay.
32:19
Dr. Una: The beginning of the week, you have my top three goals for this week.
32:24
Dr. Una: And again, it's aligned to your annual goals where there's a spot to put all your annual goals.
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Dr. Una: Mm-hmm.
32:28
Dr. Una: So my top three goals for the week and for those top three, the top three actions that will help me accomplish that.
32:35
Dr. Una: Because a lot of time we set goals and we kumbaya and go away.
32:39
Dr. Una: But what are you gonna do to get there?
32:40
Dr. Una: Right?
32:41
Dr. Una: Yeah.
32:41
Dr. Una: And so it's the top three actions that will get me there.
32:44
Dr. Una: And then you look at the top three limiting beliefs that I know will try to stop me Many times.
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Dr. Una: We don't look for that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: No, we definitely don't.
32:54
Dr. Una: But if we stop, we know what they are because they stopped us last week, the week before that, and all of that.
32:58
Dr. Una: So you capture it and you're like, okay, what I want to believe instead.
33:03
Dr. Una: So when you have your time to visualize, meditate, all of those things, you can choose to sit on those statements as opposed to meditating on the other craziness.
33:11
Dr. Una: Right?
33:12
Dr. Una: So that's part of it.
33:13
Dr. Una: That's what we do at the beginning of the week.
33:15
Dr. Una: Do you see how already Yes.
33:16
Dr. Una: How much more strategic you'd use because Yeah.
33:19
Dr. Una: You know, yes.
33:20
Dr. Una: this is the crux of the matter.
33:22
Dr. Una: Then at the end of the week, you come back to evaluate your week, which almost nobody does.
33:27
Dr. Una: And so what happens is we live the same week, week in, week out.
33:30
Dr. Una: But if we do this, then every week we're an upgraded version of ourselves.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
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Dr. Una: Right?
33:37
Dr. Una: Yeah.
33:37
Dr. Una: So we evaluate it.
33:38
Dr. Una: You come back like, what did I learn about myself?
33:41
Dr. Una: Right.
33:42
Dr. Una: what are the things that worked?
33:44
Dr. Una: Because the principles do more of what works and less of what doesn't.
33:47
Dr. Una: Like what is the thing that worked?
33:48
Dr. Una: Then what did I procrastinate on and why?
33:52
Dr. Una: Because if you can capture it, You don't do it next week.
33:55
Dr. Una: You know what I'm saying?
33:56
Dr. Una: Yes.
33:57
Dr. Una: then the most powerful question is knowing what I now know.
34:01
Dr. Una: if I could start this week over, what would I do differently?
34:05
Dr. Una: Yes.
34:06
Dr. Una: See how powerful those are and so then when you go to the new week, it's not now Dr.
34:11
Dr. Una: Una 2.0, and then the following, Dr.
34:14
Dr. Una: Una 3.0 because I've tapped into the wisdom of my experience.
34:17
Dr. Una: You see what I mean?
34:18
Dr. Una: And so when you think about it, you automatically can see, if I do this, I would use my time so much better.
34:23
Dr. Una: I will call myself out a lot like self.
34:25
Dr. Una: I saw what you did there.
34:26
Dr. Una: I saw what you avoided.
34:28
Dr. Una: Okay, let's not do that again.
34:29
Dr. Una: and no judgment is observation.
34:31
Dr. Una: Right.
34:31
Dr. Una: No judgment.
34:32
Dr. Una: But if we're more self-aware and we correct ourselves week to week as opposed to year to year, Oh my goodness.
34:40
Dr. Una: Just think about it.
34:41
Dr. Una: Right?
34:42
Dr. Una: Yeah.
34:42
Dr. Una: and when you look at the three most important actions, and then you spend most of your time doing the things you should have delegated anyway, you can catch yourself in a week and say, self, you already have 10 people to delegate this stuff.
34:52
Dr. Una: To stop it.
34:54
Dr. Una: Yeah.
34:54
Dr. Una: Like stop it.
34:55
Dr. Una: Yeah.
34:55
Dr. Una: Right.
34:56
Dr. Una: Yeah.
34:56
Dr. Una: So it said, um, on trinity.com/journal, it's called the 20% Coach, and I called it that because it'll keep you focused on your 20% activities, like the most important activities.
35:07
Dr. Una: But it's a powerful way of thinking about using time.
35:13
Dr. Una: And so I started doing this about four weeks ago.
35:15
Dr. Una: I cannot contain myself.
35:16
Dr. Una: I'm so excited because I'm using my time so much better.
35:19
Dr. Una: And I know, like now, the progress I would usually make in maybe six months or a year now becomes a 90 day thing, Because of the way I'm using my time.
35:28
Dr. Una: And the other thing, Dr.
35:29
Dr. Una: Kamal, is a lot of people are in denial.
35:32
Dr. Una: They lie to themselves.
35:33
Dr. Una: They lie about being stuck.
35:34
Dr. Una: They lie about being victims.
35:35
Dr. Una: They lie about not being able to move forward.
35:37
Dr. Una: But when you use a system like this, it calls you out.
35:41
Dr. Una: Like, this is not true.
35:44
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: it's so true.
35:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: My husband would tell you, I'm not a web dove.
35:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
35:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like now we joke about it.
35:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: He is like, you just want that on your LinkedIn, you know, MD whatever, web dev I will never be.
35:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Never ever.
35:58
Dr. Una: And so, yes.
35:58
Dr. Una: So when you answer that question, if I had to start this week over, what would I do differently?
36:03
Dr. Una: I would not spend 36 hours trying to create a website when I have a husband who's a rock star at it.
36:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh my gosh.
36:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
36:09
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like, come on.
36:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So yes, Call on your village.
36:12
Dr. Una: Yeah.
36:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay.
36:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Well, I am excited to buy that.
36:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I will be linking that in the show notes for everybody who's listening because I can't wait to get my hands on a copy
36:22
Dr. Una: game changer for sure.
36:23
Dr. Una: It's exactly what I'm using and I'm besides myself excited.
36:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I, uh, that's so cool.
36:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I can't wait to see it.
36:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love journals, but I'm one of those people who will start, and if it doesn't jive with me, there's been like a pile of journals that I've had to put into recycling over the years, you know, that are partially written in.
36:41
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So this one sounds like it will be very different for me.
36:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm excited to grab one.
36:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Um, so let's shift gears a little bit, Dr.
36:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una, and tell me how you have found.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Alignment with all these different facets of your life.
36:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
36:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When we first met, we talked about what is the alignment you find in your role as a physician versus a woman.
37:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And so there are, I think we can apply that lesson to every person out there that is listening.
37:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You know, your role as a mother, your role as a partner, your role as a daughter, your role as, you know, fill in whatever blank it is.
37:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'd love to hear how you cultivated that for yourself.
37:20
Dr. Una: Yeah.
37:21
Dr. Una: So, um, don't be overwhelmed if you can't come up with an answer right away.
37:27
Dr. Una: Um, but I can't remember exactly when this was.
37:30
Dr. Una: This was probably six or seven years ago.
37:33
Dr. Una: I started looking back at my life.
37:36
Dr. Una: And I found out that even from when I was a kid.
37:41
Dr. Una: What I loved the most Was to help people become the best version of themselves, which is very strange.
37:47
Dr. Una: I wasn't aware of it when I was a kid, but I was aware of what I did, and I was like, you need to stop doing that, like you're a kid.
37:55
Dr. Una: So when I talked to an adult and they're saying something like, Ooh, and if you did this and this, it could turn out like this.
38:01
Dr. Una: And like, so I had this relentless belief in people.
38:05
Dr. Una: I see people as, for want of a better way to say, it's kind of like the dirt in South Africa where it looks like dirt, but inside there's diamonds and all these things.
38:13
Dr. Una: and I'm like, Ooh, I know there's treasures in this person, and if they do this and this, they can get it out, right?
38:19
Dr. Una: so I noticed that as a kid, but it looked like I was telling adults what to do, and I'm like, why would you do that?
38:24
Dr. Una: Like, that's so bizarre.
38:25
Dr. Una: That's what I noticed.
38:26
Dr. Una: I noticed as a physician, um, you know, being a pediatrician.
38:32
Dr. Una: I would document things about parents.
38:34
Dr. Una: I'm like, okay, so what are you doing?
38:35
Dr. Una: They're like, I'm in nursing school.
38:37
Dr. Una: I'm like, no kidding.
38:38
Dr. Una: And I documented that in the summary and the next one, I'm like, so how are your grades in nursing school?
38:41
Dr. Una: How's that going?
38:42
Dr. Una: And they're like, you remember?
38:43
Dr. Una: I mean, my chart remembered, but still.
38:45
Dr. Una: Yes.
38:46
Dr. Una: and when the mothers come and they're so disillusioned, like the whole motherhood thing threw them off, I'm like, no, you're doing such a great job with this kid.
38:52
Dr. Una: And I know sometimes it feels like, did you step back?
38:55
Dr. Una: Are you losing yourself and all?
38:56
Dr. Una: But no, but you're not, like you're, you're not.
38:58
Dr. Una: This is a season and it gets better.
39:01
Dr. Una: And so patients will start telling me like, the reason we come here is'cause you're like our therapist.
39:07
Dr. Una: Right?
39:07
Dr. Una: That's what the moms would say.
39:08
Dr. Una: Yeah.
39:09
Dr. Una: Because that's how great they would feel about themselves.
39:11
Dr. Una: I'd have people like, oh, I'm having this challenge in my marriage or whatever.
39:14
Dr. Una: And I'd stop, I'd take care of the kid, talk with them real quick and you know, so it was just my thing.
39:19
Dr. Una: Then in the church we, I co-pastor with, with my husband.
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Dr. Una: Um.
39:23
Dr. Una: I would go at people hard.
39:24
Dr. Una: I'm like, come on, you can read this book.
39:26
Dr. Una: Come on, you can do this.
39:28
Dr. Una: if they don't want it, there's nothing you can do.
39:29
Dr. Una: It took me a long time to learn that.
39:31
Dr. Una: 'cause I can see the potential.
39:32
Dr. Una: Right.
39:32
Dr. Una: So I say all of that to say it's a thread that goes all through my life.
39:37
Dr. Una: And so there's no doubt, part of the reason I'm on this planet is I'm a catalyst.
39:42
Dr. Una: I help people become who they can be.
39:44
Dr. Una: it's my thing.
39:45
Dr. Una: Right?
39:46
Dr. Una: And so when I look at everything I do, it's just different flavors of that.
39:51
Dr. Una: So in my relationship with my husband, we have a really great relationship, but a huge part of it is I know that he has a great destiny and there's this person can be, and I'm gonna support him and help him become that person, right?
40:04
Dr. Una: With my kids, I actually call myself a king maker.
40:06
Dr. Una: I'm like, oh, these four, you know, they're people who transform their lives and their families and their communities completely And, they have me as their mother.
40:14
Dr. Una: and so that doesn't mean we don't have fun.
40:15
Dr. Una: We don't do all of that.
40:16
Dr. Una: But yeah.
40:16
Dr. Una: But a huge part of what I do is how can I help them become the best version of themselves?
40:21
Dr. Una: That's part of the reason I homeschool them, right?
40:23
Dr. Una: And then when I think of what I do with re MDs, the same thing.
40:26
Dr. Una: I unlock physicians.
40:27
Dr. Una: That's what I do.
40:28
Dr. Una: They're like, oh, I'm stuck and all, I'm like, you're not stuck.
40:30
Dr. Una: Come let's, let me show you how.
40:33
Dr. Una: And they start doing all these amazing things and building these great businesses and great lives and things like that.
40:39
Dr. Una: So my life doesn't feel like it has many aspects.
40:43
Dr. Una: It feels like it's one thing.
40:44
Dr. Una: Ugh, I love that.
40:46
Dr. Una: Which is so peaceful because, um, I mean, like if you think five companies, the church, they're this and that and that, it's, it's like, yeah, blah.
40:54
Dr. Una: You know how, but it literally feels like one thing because everywhere I go, I'm locking people, right?
41:01
Dr. Una: and so if someone can lean into what is that thread?
41:05
Dr. Una: And it may take you a minute to find this, right?
41:06
Dr. Una: And it's okay, but what is that?
41:09
Dr. Una: and so because of that, for instance, people say, Ooh, AI is a new thing.
41:12
Dr. Una: You can just do this and this, and you make, you know, 700,000 in an AI business.
41:16
Dr. Una: I will never do that because for me, it's a stressor.
41:20
Dr. Una: Because it's not me unlocking people Now, that doesn't mean I can't, it needs to be something that's unlocking people.
41:27
Dr. Una: Otherwise it's work and I don't wanna work.
41:29
Dr. Una: I wanna do what I'm born to do.
41:30
Dr. Una: does that make sense?
41:31
Dr. Una: Yes.
41:32
Dr. Una: So if you start understanding who you are and what is at your core.
41:39
Dr. Una: Then every facet of your life can be one thing.
41:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
41:44
Dr. Una: Everything is one thing for me.
41:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's such a beautiful message.
41:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And having been a person who spent part of their life as an ostrich with my head in the sand oblivious to whatever's happening around me.
41:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That process of self-reflection when I finally learned it.
41:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It is a beautiful thing, right?
42:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And you realize why you were the ostrich in the first place, is that everything else was out of alignment with who you truly are.
42:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So the fact that you've captured that and figured that out and applied it to each facet of your life, I hope that people who are listening today are inspired to do the same.
42:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It doesn't have to be complicated.
42:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
42:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It sounds complicated on paper for sure.
42:23
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But it doesn't have to be that complicated.
42:25
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you for sharing that message with us today.
42:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So beautiful.
42:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh my gosh, my pleasure.
42:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm gonna go back and watch this episode recording.
42:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Write everything down, take notes.
42:36
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So Dr.
42:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una, I'd love for you to talk about the Entree MD Business School and what that has meant to your life's journey, your life's purpose, and being that catalyst you were in my life.
42:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I will tell you, I hadn't even.
42:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Met you.
42:50
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'd seen you talk before, but I hadn't met you and you'd had that huge of an impact.
42:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So please, floor is yours.
42:56
Dr. Una: Yeah.
42:57
Dr. Una: So that's another I won't say accidental, but I'd like to say I went into this confidently'cause this is what I wanted to do.
43:02
Dr. Una: And I say that again because someone may be feeling I'm not confident.
43:05
Dr. Una: I'm not that kind of person.
43:06
Dr. Una: That's okay.
43:07
Dr. Una: That's okay.
43:08
Dr. Una: this happened in 20 20 20 and the on MD as a company started September of 20 20, 20 18.
43:16
Dr. Una: And when I say started, it means I did a.
43:19
Dr. Una: Event, if you will.
43:20
Dr. Una: It was a dinner to bring people in and just cast the vision of, you know, this is what EntreMD is.
43:25
Dr. Una: And with all the marketing skills I had in the universe, I got six doctors and nine medical students to come.
43:29
Dr. Una: Okay.
43:30
Dr. Una: so that was the whole meeting that we had, you know, and then after that I have, you know, one-on-one client here, one-on-one client there.
43:36
Dr. Una: And after that I did a 12 week program and stuff like that.
43:39
Dr. Una: Yeah.
43:39
Dr. Una: So 2020, it's like, okay, we're having real problems in medicine.
43:43
Dr. Una: We are having real doctors, you know, um, you know, we're having suicides every single year.
43:49
Dr. Una: We are having doctors leave medicine, like by the, by the We have private practices dropping like flies.
43:55
Dr. Una: You have an answer.
43:57
Dr. Una: And so the question is, are you gonna just, you know, is it, is it gonna be a hobby or are you gonna take a stake and say, okay, I am going to help doctors embrace entrepreneurship.
44:08
Dr. Una: So they have the freedom to live life and practice medicine.
44:10
Dr. Una: There are million physicians and if you touch.
44:13
Dr. Una: 10% of them, you'd have touched the entire physician community.
44:16
Dr. Una: Like are you willing to do that?
44:18
Dr. Una: So it was kind of a call like, is this gonna be a hobby or are you gonna really do it?
44:21
Dr. Una: Yeah.
44:21
Dr. Una: And I struggled with it for a few months'cause I was like, eh, you know, man, I had a nice practice.
44:26
Dr. Una: I was working three days a week.
44:28
Dr. Una: I mean like, you know, like life was good.
44:29
Dr. Una: There are no problems here.
44:31
Dr. Una: And so eventually I was like, okay.
44:34
Dr. Una: Um, and when I got this whole idea of the on MD business school, I would tell you what I felt.
44:38
Dr. Una: It was pure shame.
44:40
Dr. Una: I was like business school, like, are you kidding?
44:42
Dr. Una: You don't have a business degree.
44:44
Dr. Una: Right?
44:44
Dr. Una: You have run exactly one type of business.
44:47
Dr. Una: And I was like, what do you mean business school?
44:49
Dr. Una: Like, what are you talking about?
44:51
Dr. Una: But I was like, ah, but I know if they have these four pillars, again, going back to that thing of unlocking people, if they have these four pillars, it would work.
44:58
Dr. Una: Right?
44:59
Dr. Una: And I was like, okay, so I said, okay, I'll do it.
45:01
Dr. Una: And so I did, um, I did on MD live that year, which was in June.
45:06
Dr. Una: And at that, I think we had, I don't know, 300, maybe 321 people are registered or so, and it was virtual'cause you know, COVID.
45:12
Dr. Una: And then, um, I offered, I gave people an opportunity to join the school.
45:17
Dr. Una: And I wanna tell you this story because again, it will help people go like, okay, I mean, yeah, we could all do this, right?
45:24
Dr. Una: So 321 people, I'm telling them about the school, how amazing it's gonna be, all of that stuff.
45:29
Dr. Una: And on that day of, on Trinity Life, two people joined the school This was like the beta version, if you will.
45:34
Dr. Una: 'cause I didn't even have the guts to charge what it was worth.
45:37
Dr. Una: It was 4 97 a month.
45:38
Dr. Una: It was 5,000 for a year.
45:39
Dr. Una: I know.
45:40
Dr. Una: Oh my gosh.
45:41
Dr. Una: and I knew I was building a$30,000 school.
45:43
Dr. Una: But I couldn't bring myself to say those numbers.
45:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
45:46
Dr. Una: Right.
45:46
Dr. Una: So even if someone's afraid, like I, I'm telling you, so it is five grand, two people I remember going, I remember going like, here I'm telling people how to market, how to do all this stuff and I can't even do it.
45:56
Dr. Una: Like what in the world, right?
45:58
Dr. Una: Yeah.
45:59
Dr. Una: Okay.
45:59
Dr. Una: So, but of course the cart was open for enrollment, was open for a week or so, and so they trickled in and trickled in and trickled in.
46:06
Dr. Una: And finally we ended up with 22.
46:08
Dr. Una: Okay.
46:08
Dr. Una: I said, okay, 22 is much better than two.
46:12
Dr. Una: Much better, much better than two.
46:15
Dr. Una: And then we started the process of building this school now.
46:19
Dr. Una: So the school has been around for five years and it's been an evolution, right?
46:23
Dr. Una: Like.
46:24
Dr. Una: I don't, I don't let anything in my world stay the same.
46:26
Dr. Una: Right?
46:27
Dr. Una: Yeah.
46:27
Dr. Una: So it's evolving.
46:28
Dr. Una: The idea is how can we help them better?
46:30
Dr. Una: How can we help them faster?
46:31
Dr. Una: How can we help them have bigger wins?
46:32
Dr. Una: How can they have, you know, and stuff like that.
46:34
Dr. Una: And over the years it's been, I mean, we're talking hundreds of doctors.
46:40
Dr. Una: We are talking so many people who started off as employed physicians.
46:44
Dr. Una: Yeah.
46:44
Dr. Una: And within three years, we're running seven figure, multi seven figure practices.
46:48
Dr. Una: We're talking about people saying, this has been tremendous for my business, but now my marriage is the best it's ever been.
46:55
Dr. Una: Because the way you do one thing is the way you do everything.
46:57
Dr. Una: Yeah.
46:57
Dr. Una: Marriage is the best.
46:58
Dr. Una: You know, I've shed all this weight, I've built all this muscle.
47:01
Dr. Una: My relationship with my kids is better and all of that stuff.
47:04
Dr. Una: And to watch physicians go from I'm a clinician.
47:11
Dr. Una: Yeah.
47:12
Dr. Una: To, I'm A CEO, to, I'm running a thriving business.
47:15
Dr. Una: Yeah.
47:16
Dr. Una: I have never worked because I get front row seats, right?
47:19
Dr. Una: Watching all of these things.
47:21
Dr. Una: And you know, one day I thought about it because there are a lot of, for instance, there are a lot of consultants.
47:25
Dr. Una: They charge you 50,000 and they kind of set up your practice and all of those things.
47:29
Dr. Una: And I was like, and so people like, we just want checklists, we just want this.
47:34
Dr. Una: And every time I'm like, I don't wanna give them a checklist.
47:36
Dr. Una: Like that's not why, why we're here.
47:38
Dr. Una: So I started thinking, I was like, what is it that we do though?
47:41
Dr. Una: Yeah.
47:41
Dr. Una: And it dawned on me, we don't start people's businesses.
47:45
Dr. Una: We make physicians, entrepreneurs, which this is two very different things, right?
47:51
Dr. Una: We make them entrepreneurs.
47:52
Dr. Una: 'cause what we do.
47:54
Dr. Una: Is we help them get that mindset shift from physician to physician CEO.
47:57
Dr. Una: It's a completely different way of thinking.
47:59
Dr. Una: You're an entrepreneur so you get it right.
48:01
Dr. Una: We show them how to build dominant brands.
48:03
Dr. Una: We show them how to build revenue generation systems.
48:05
Dr. Una: We show them how to build profitable teams.
48:07
Dr. Una: This is CEO stuff.
48:09
Dr. Una: And so that's why a number of our people, they'll start off like we had someone, you know, private practice and then launches a course and then within a week or two weeks or whatever, does half a million in revenue.
48:20
Dr. Una: Yeah.
48:20
Dr. Una: How come?
48:21
Dr. Una: Right.
48:21
Dr. Una: They didn't get a blueprint on this is the way you start a course or whatever, but they had become an entrepreneur.
48:26
Dr. Una: Do you see what I'm saying?
48:27
Dr. Una: Like, and so that's why the ripple effect in their entire lives, you know, is seen as well because they've changed.
48:34
Dr. Una: Yes.
48:34
Dr. Una: Right.
48:35
Dr. Una: it's not just that they got a checklist.
48:37
Dr. Una: They, and we give frameworks on all of those things.
48:39
Dr. Una: I'm not saying we don't do that, but the primary thing we do is we make physicians, entrepreneurs, and it's been quite a journey.
48:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I commend you for it, right?
48:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: We do look at healthcare as.
48:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: How it's evolved over the last several decades and we, our generation of doctors has inherited a problem we did not create.
49:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
49:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
49:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: If I could sum it up in one sentence, that's what I would say.
49:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: We were not responsible for the need for government to step in as hard as they did, but now we're dealing with all of the ramifications and, you know, sadly, the patients who have transitioned through each of those systems don't necessarily understand that.
49:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
49:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So for, to see somebody who is in this mission of teaching physicians how to reclaim their voices, right.
49:26
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And how to reclaim their businesses, right, or practices rather reclaim what brings them joy, because all of us went into this, well, the majority of us went into this because we love that interaction.
49:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: We love helping people.
49:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Just to see people being put back on the path of their true purpose is such a beautiful thing for me.
49:44
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I hope that my listeners, I understand this.
49:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Episode is not what I normally speak on, but I think it's highly relevant because we look at women in all these different areas of their lives where they're told that they can have it all, but they're dealing with all of the different societal constraints, cultural constraints, all of those things.
50:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: They're very analogous journeys.
50:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I am just so inspired by, by everything you've done.
50:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you.
50:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you so, so much for, for that.
50:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I, I wanted to switch now to seeing if you would be willing to share, um, based on a few rapid fire questions I, I have for you.
50:20
Dr. Una: Yeah.
50:20
Dr. Una: Just because this cultural theme and so for everyone who's decided, yeah, I am going to be a high performer.
50:28
Dr. Una: I'm gonna be a champion.
50:29
Dr. Una: I'm going to live full out.
50:32
Dr. Una: Um, there will likely be a season where there are many people who will understand what you're doing
50:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: a hundred percent.
50:39
Dr. Una: And that is okay.
50:42
Dr. Una: I promise you though, if you can hold on and do what you're trying to do, once you create the result, everybody will understand you and everyone will say, I knew you could do it.
50:54
Dr. Una: I knew you'd become that, and all of that stuff.
50:57
Dr. Una: Right.
50:57
Dr. Una: And so don't sacrifice who you could be because it makes somebody else uncomfortable.
51:04
Dr. Una: Yeah.
51:04
Dr. Una: Like go all in because I'm a little further in my journey.
51:08
Dr. Una: And all the people who are like, what's wrong with you?
51:11
Dr. Una: They've all changed their tune.
51:12
Dr. Una: It's different now.
51:14
Dr. Una: Not that I need them to, but it's different now because now they can see the result of what you are trying to do.
51:19
Dr. Una: So don't be afraid.
51:21
Dr. Una: Don't be afraid to walk with fewer people.
51:23
Dr. Una: It's not walk alone because they're people like you and there's a lot of'em.
51:26
Dr. Una: It's just relatively that few, but there's a lot of'em.
51:28
Dr. Una: Find your own tribe for this season the same way, a mom will quarantine herself.
51:35
Dr. Una: The same way you quarantine a newborn, like you quarantine that dream until it's a full, like 17-year-old and it can handle the pressure.
51:43
Dr. Una: Right?
51:43
Dr. Una: Yeah.
51:43
Dr. Una: Don't, don't put your newborn in front of
51:44
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: people who will squash it.
51:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, definitely.
51:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I, I think that's a beautiful piece of advice because it is, uh, you know, we're all uncomfortable with being uncomfortable, but it's really the only true path to growing past what is, has become stagnant in your life.
52:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So thank you for sharing that.
52:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think it's a good lesson for me to remember too, as I'm navigating these changes.
52:05
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So, all right.
52:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Um, gosh, are just so many gems from this podcast, so thank you.
52:13
Dr. Una: My pleasure.
52:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
52:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's been fabulous.
52:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Um, so questions for you, Dr.
52:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una.
52:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: This is, we're gonna do our lightning round.
52:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: What is the best advice you have ever received as an entrepreneur?
52:26
Dr. Una: Don't wish she
52:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: was easier.
52:27
Dr. Una: Wish you were better.
52:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Jim Ron.
52:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
52:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
52:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay.
52:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Good.
52:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: A lot.
52:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Going along with our theme of being uncomfortable, right?
52:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Getting used to being uncomfortable.
52:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: What is your favorite book or resource for physician entrepreneurs?
52:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I know that I can say it's your stuff that you've put out.
52:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm not mad if you say it's your stuff too, because it's pretty phenomenal.
52:50
Dr. Una: I would say it's my stuff.
52:52
Dr. Una: Yeah.
52:52
Dr. Una: Um, and we've written a number of books.
52:54
Dr. Una: I think there's five of them for physician entrepreneurs and Yes.
52:58
Dr. Una: And it's wonderful because read one chapter, do the chapter, read one chapter.
53:01
Dr. Una: Do the chapter with everyone you do.
53:02
Dr. Una: Your life will be completely different.
53:04
Dr. Una: If I could give one other one.
53:06
Dr. Una: Um, it'll be eat that frog if you haven't read it.
53:08
Dr. Una: That's a Must read.
53:09
Dr. Una: Yes.
53:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
53:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That was, I think, life changing for me as I was sitting there in my post-op recovery, I was like, okay, what are the frogs?
53:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: This sounds terrible.
53:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay, let's write them all down.
53:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: but it got the ball rolling, right?
53:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
53:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So, yeah.
53:25
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's great.
53:26
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: One habit that's changed your life,
53:31
Dr. Una: it'll sound cliche, but I'll say eating frogs.
53:33
Dr. Una: Okay.
53:34
Dr. Una: That is finding the uncomfortable thing that moves the needle the most in the direction you're trying to go is usually uncomfortable.
53:43
Dr. Una: It's usually the thing you're procrastinating on, but eating that.
53:45
Dr. Una: And it's made me come to a point in my life, I don't know if you've heard me say this on the podcast, where I'm comfortably being uncomfortable.
53:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
53:53
Dr. Una: I'm no longer fighting for comfort.
53:55
Dr. Una: I'm fighting to become.
53:56
Dr. Una: So if discomfort is the way to be coming, I'm okay with it.
54:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
54:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
54:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
54:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And then what do you tell yourself on hard days?
54:06
Dr. Una: It's worth it.
54:07
Dr. Una: Okay.
54:07
Dr. Una: It too shall pass.
54:09
Dr. Una: I like that.
54:10
Dr. Una: It's transient.
54:11
Dr. Una: Never been a hard day that lasted all my life.
54:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: never been super great.
54:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
54:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I, I think I was talking to you about my clinic yesterday.
54:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Today's a new day.
54:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I don't have the full moon, new moon, whatever crazy that's happening today.
54:26
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So it two small hands.
54:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, those two.
54:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it did.
54:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank goodness.
54:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Um, all right, so just to kind of wrap things up, because I, I appreciate how generous you've been with your time.
54:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I would love to hear words from you about what you would tell physicians, women, anybody who's feeling at a point in their life where they are stuck or burned out.
54:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And feel free to give your thoughts from a physician perspective, from a female perspective.
54:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think everybody can find commonality in all of those messages.
54:59
Dr. Una: Yeah.
55:00
Dr. Una: So this year I turned 46 years old and I sat to think, I said, what is the thing that has been most responsible for my success, if you will, right?
55:13
Dr. Una: what brought me to this place?
55:16
Dr. Una: And I realized it's engaging in the process of becoming like we think our challenges, our external challenges are the real issue, like what my boss said, or the burnout I have at work or the revenue I didn't create in my practice or the insurance company.
55:30
Dr. Una: All of those things.
55:32
Dr. Una: But they're all external.
55:33
Dr. Una: the real center of gravity is me.
55:35
Dr. Una: When I get better.
55:37
Dr. Una: Yeah, everything gets better, right?
55:38
Dr. Una: So hence the Jim r quote of, don't wish it was easier, wish you were better.
55:42
Dr. Una: It's like in the healthcare space we find ourselves in, don't wish it was easier, wish you were better, right?
55:47
Dr. Una: Because it already is what it is.
55:48
Dr. Una: But if I can change, everything can change.
55:52
Dr. Una: And so if you feel stuck, if you feel burned out, if you feel you're being treated in a certain way because you're female, because you're a minority.
56:00
Dr. Una: Um, if you feel you're in this season where you have young children and it's like, You know what to do, I'm kind of stuck here.
56:08
Dr. Una: It doesn't matter what the external circumstance is.
56:12
Dr. Una: If you can focus on the one thing you have control over, which is you and make you better, whether that's in the way you think, whether that's the skill that you have, whether it's the network you've created, if you get better, everything will get better.
56:26
Dr. Una: I'll give you an example.
56:28
Dr. Una: I run an insurance based.
56:31
Dr. Una: Pediatric private practice that is 60% Medicaid.
56:36
Dr. Una: Okay.
56:36
Dr. Una: If you look at those four things, somebody will tell you there's no reason that private practice should thrive.
56:41
Dr. Una: Right.
56:42
Dr. Una: Because you're talking lowest paying insurance, lowest paying specialty insurance to start with, and all of that stuff.
56:47
Dr. Una: Right.
56:48
Dr. Una: How that practice crossed the seven figure mark in year three, that practice survived the pandemic.
56:55
Dr. Una: Actually, we did better in 2020 than 2019.
56:57
Dr. Una: We did better in 2021 than 2020.
57:00
Dr. Una: That's amazing.
57:01
Dr. Una: That practice has done well, and I have not stepped foot in that building for three and a half years.
57:08
Dr. Una: I'm not saying there are no challenges.
57:09
Dr. Una: What I'm trying to say is you have so much more control than you know.
57:14
Dr. Una: If you can make you better, everything else becomes better, and the things that made you stuck, all of a sudden you're a different person, so that doesn't make you stuck anymore.
57:24
Dr. Una: Like if you think about it, if you ask the.
57:27
Dr. Una: 5-year-old.
57:29
Dr. Una: 10 minus 12, they'll tell you that's impossible.
57:32
Dr. Una: If I ask you 10 minus 12, you say minus two, right?
57:35
Dr. Una: Because the person facing the mathematical problem is better.
57:40
Dr. Una: Correct.
57:40
Dr. Una: You just what I mean?
57:41
Dr. Una: Like you have better skills at it in the same way.
57:44
Dr. Una: Everything that seems like an insurmountable challenge Yes.
57:47
Dr. Una: Becomes a surmountable challenge when you change.
57:51
Dr. Una: So I wanna invite you to take the control back.
57:54
Dr. Una: Ask yourself what mindset shift do I need to experience?
57:57
Dr. Una: What new skillset do I need to be in?
57:59
Dr. Una: And what that means also is what book do I need to read?
58:02
Dr. Una: What community do I need to be a part?
58:04
Dr. Una: What podcast do I need to listen to?
58:05
Dr. Una: Because every time you get better, your external world changes, every single time, every problem that seems like, oh my goodness, I can't overcome this.
58:14
Dr. Una: There's somebody else, I won't even think about it.
58:16
Dr. Una: They'll just solve it like that because of who they are.
58:19
Dr. Una: And so it made me make another commitment to the next 46 years.
58:25
Dr. Una: Is I'm gonna go all in on becoming since that's the thing.
58:28
Dr. Una: Yeah.
58:28
Dr. Una: And I wanna invite everyone.
58:30
Dr. Una: Don't be so overwhelmed by your external circumstances that you give up.
58:34
Dr. Una: The one thing you have control over.
58:36
Dr. Una: You have control over your becoming.
58:38
Dr. Una: Become the kind of person, yeah.
58:40
Dr. Una: You can have the life you want to have, be the kind of parent you wanna be, run the kind of business you wanna run.
58:45
Dr. Una: Have the kind of career.
58:46
Dr. Una: Just ask yourself, who is that person?
58:48
Dr. Una: Become that person.
58:50
Dr. Una: That's it.
58:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
58:52
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh, that is.
58:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I could not think of a better way to close this out.
58:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm gonna go meditate on that later today.
59:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you so much, Dr.
59:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una.
59:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It has been an absolute pleasure to talk to you about all of your journey.
59:09
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you so, so much for sharing that.
59:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Where can people find you online?
59:13
Dr. Una: Yeah, easiest per place would be my website.
59:16
Dr. Una: md.com.
59:17
Dr. Una: And then I, I'm on social media quite a bit, so on Facebook, NEKA Un which, uh, Dr.
59:22
Dr. Una: Kamal be so kind to spell yes.
59:25
Dr. Una: But, but I'm on Facebook a lot, you know, talking more of what I'm talking now, so, yeah.
59:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Well that's great.
59:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And, uh, can you tell us when your next enrollment is for the Entree MD Business School?
59:36
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because I'm sure I do have physicians who listen and I want them to know should they feel inclined, where we're an excellent resources for them.
59:44
Dr. Una: Yeah.
59:45
Dr. Una: So the next best step for that would just be to schedule a call with my team is re.com/call.
59:50
Dr. Una: Mm-hmm.
59:51
Dr. Una: Um, we do have open enrollment because yeah, that's another long story we'll talk about the next time we, we talk.
59:56
Dr. Una: but we do have open enrollment and we are not a, we're not a high pressure, we're always looking for win-win situations.
1:00:04
Dr. Una: So we would just get on that call to help you determine if this is the best, decision for your business at the time and stuff like that.
1:00:11
Dr. Una: So on.com/call.
1:00:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay.
1:00:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Wonderful.
1:00:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I know I've spoken to your team before.
1:00:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: They're lovely.
1:00:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So
1:00:17
Dr. Una: yeah.
1:00:18
Dr. Una: Thank you.
1:00:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Um, yep.
1:00:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Everybody feel free to reach out.
1:00:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Dr.
1:00:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Una has an amazing set of support for our physician colleagues when they're looking to build something on their own.
1:00:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And thank you again for your time today.
1:00:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It has just been so lovely to have you here.
1:00:32
Dr. Una: Thank you for having me.
1:00:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh, my pleasure.