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251. “Fugitive” - The Case of Ivora “Ivory” Huntley - Oakland, California - [ Part 1 of 2] · Least of These

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to least of these, where I cover the cases that need most, because every life matters and everyone deserves justice.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Lady.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Today I'll be covering the case of Ivora, Ivory Huntley, and Oakland, California.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get right to it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: 41-year-old Ivorah Huntley, better known to her friends and family as Ivory or Big Ive, was described by those that knew her as the life of the party.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She had the type of personality that made her seem larger than life.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Ivory was a mother, a daughter and a great friend.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And on the evening of March 29, 2002, Ivory would lose her life trying to protect someone she cared about.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That day, Ivory was with a longtime friend, Al-Qal-J.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jay's name has not been publicly identified in the sources I've been able to verify, so I'm just going to use the name Jay for clarity.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, Jay was in a relationship with 35-year-old Demores Hunter, and had been for about five years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At some point that evening, an argument broke out between Hunter and Jay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Things quickly spiraled completely out of control and the argument turned physical.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter began beating Jay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Ivory stepped in to protect her friend and separate the two of them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And when she did, hunter turned his violence toward Ivory.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He repeatedly punched and kicked her before leaving the area and walking to a nearby apartment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to the Oakland Tribune, police were called, and Ivory stood on the sidewalk in the 1,600 block of 85th Avenue in Oakland waiting on officers to arrive.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But before police arrived, Dormores Hunter returned.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The East Bay Times reported that Hunter walked towards Ivory and asked her if she was going to have him arrested.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She said yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter then pulled out a 380 semi-automatic pistol and shot Ivory in the chin.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Ivory collapsed on the sidewalk.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter walked over to her and fired a second shot, striking her in the neck.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He then fled the scene on foot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Police and EMS responded and tried to help Ivory, but the bullets had caused catastrophic injuries.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: her spinal cord as well as an artery and her neck were both severed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At about 7.45 pm on March 29, 2002, 41-year-old Ivory Huntley was gone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She had been murdered for simply trying to protect her friend.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Morris Hunter had shot her and cold blood in front of Jay, his girlfriend of more than five years, and according to reports, his own daughter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And now Hunter was a fugitive.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He had connections in both Oakland and Sacramento.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But also, the Morris Hunter was a truck driver.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was familiar with the roads in police believed it was likely he had left the area.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He could have gone anywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Investigators needed to figure it out, and they needed to find him fast.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nearly 3,000 miles away from Oakland, California, in Orlando, Florida, 38-year-old Theresa Green worked as a secretary at Florida Hospital.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She had worked in some capacity at that hospital for the past seven years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to WESH News, Theresa lived at the Bay Run to Apartments on Cornell Avenue in Orlando's College Park neighborhood with her teenage son.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In April of 2002, a new neighbor moved into the Bay Run apartments, one floor below Teresa and her son.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His name was Mike Barry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, many of the people in that apartment complex knew each other, according to later court testimony, most of them actually worked for Florida Hospital.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Teresa Green pretty quickly befriended her new neighbor Mike as did many of the other tenants in the complex.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On Saturday, May 25, 2002, a couple who also lived at the Bay Run, Joyce and Joseph Butler, well, they hosted a party in their apartment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That party rocked on into the early morning hours of May 26th.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Teresa Green and Mike Barry were both at the party.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At some point that night, there was an altercation between Joseph Butler and Teresa.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Teresa and Mike left the party together at around 2.30 in the morning.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: As they were leaving, people from the party saw Teresa and Mike fall down the stairs before they got up and went into Teresa's apartment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to these witnesses, neither of the two had any visible injuries after taking that tumble down the stairs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The next morning though, Teresa Green didn't show up for her shift at Florida Hospital.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yahoo News reported that when Teresa's teenage son, who had been in a friend's house the night of the party, anyhow when he got back home, he knew instantly that something was wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: his mom wasn't there and there was a hole in the drywall inside the apartment that wasn't there the night before.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to WESH News, Theresa didn't show for her shift on the 26th or her next one on the 27th.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Officials at the hospital were concerned.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On Monday, May 27, 2002, Theresa Green was reported missing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That evening Orlando Police went to Theresa's second floor apartment unit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Theresa wasn't there and neither was her vehicle.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Inside the apartment, police noted signs of a struggle and blood near her bathroom.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hours after Theresa was reported missing, according to the Orlando Sentinel, Theresa's green Osmo bill was found in a Walgreens parking lot on South French Avenue.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That Walgreens was roughly 23 miles away from Teresa's apartment in Sanford, Florida.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The car was found at about 10 p.m. And at first glance, the car appeared empty, but when firefighters popped the trunk, they found Teresa Green's body inside, wrapped and placed in the trunk of her own car.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Which started as a missing person's case was now a homicide investigation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: After Teresa Green's body had been found Orlando Police how to late night press conference.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sargent with the Orlando Police Luis Tanzi told the media that 36-year-old de Morris Hunter was wanted in connection with Teresa Green's death.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But there was a problem.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter hadn't been living under his own name.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He had been using the alias of Michael or Mike Barry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Barry wasn't Mike Barry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was de Morris Hunter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Ivory Huntley had been murdered in Oakland, just two months later, Teresa Green had also been killed in Orlando.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, Mike Barry, aka Demores Hunter, was on the run.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sergeant Tansy told the media that Teresa Green had been murdered some time between two and seven a.m. on Sunday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and the Demores Hunter had last been seen at 4pm that same day, leaving the apartment in a white van with blue stripes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Police thought it was likely hunter had already left the area, and if he wasn't captured, it was likely he would kill again, because Demores Hunter was a serial killer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Ivory Huntley wasn't his first or even his second victim.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter's violent criminal record dated all the way back to 1985.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to Assistant District Attorney of Alameda, California, John Bruhard, the Morris Hunter's first known victim was killed in January of 1985.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His name was Caesar Guzman.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to the Oakland Tribune, Caesar was a native of El Salvador.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was gunned down on Shaddock Avenue in Oakland after leaving a bar on January 6, 1985.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Caesar had been at the neighborhood bar with friends.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: As he left the bar alone, he got into a brief altercation with Hunter and was shot once in the chest.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was 27 years old.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter was just 18 when he murdered Caesar.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to reports during the altercation, Hunter also pointed the loaded gun at another man that night, a man named Jorge Hernandez.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: About a month later, Hunter shot Adolfus Williams with a son-off shotgun in the face on February 4th, 1985.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Adolfus miraculously survived but was severely wounded.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And amorous Hunter wasn't done yet, 10 days after shooting a dolphin he was back at it again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On Valentine's Day Hunter shot Eric Wright in Oakland.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Eric survived initially but was left paraplegic and in 1986 he died from complications related to his injuries.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But now, you would think with two men dead, one severely injured, and another man who was nearly shot, the Morris Hunter would have been locked up in the key would have been tossed into a woodchipper, but you'd be so wrong, my friend.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter was originally charged with the murder of Caesar Guzman, attempted murder, use of a firearm, and assault with a firearm in a dull-fascist case.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and attempted murder with a use of a firearm and inflection of great bodily injury in Eric's case, which was later amended to murder after Eric died.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And had the district attorney taken the case to trial, it's very likely Hunter would have gotten some form of a life sentence, or at least he damn well should have.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But that is not at all what happened.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The cases were basically tied together, and the state of California offered Demoris Hunter a deal.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On November 20, 1985, Demoris Hunter pled guilty to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter and Caesar-Guzmann's case, assault with a firearm reporting the gun at Jorge Hernandez.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He pled to attempted murder in Eric Wright's case, an attempted murder and causing great bodily
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Morris Hunter was sentenced to just 24 years in prison, and buckle up Buttercup because it only gets worse.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Of those 24 years, Hunter served 13, yes, 13 years in California's Folsom State Prison.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then he was hurled early in November of 1997, free to kill again, five years later he
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  [SPEAKER_01]: After murdering Ivory Huntley in March and Theresa Green in May of 2002, the Morris Hunter was living life as a fugitive.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There were three warrants for his arrest, a war not of California for Ivory's murder, one out of Florida for Theresa's murder, and a third federal warrant that had been issued in June of 2002 for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The FBI got involved and listed hunter in the crime alert section of his website, and John Walsh featured hunter on an episode of America's Most Wanted.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just in case you were wondering, tips from America's Most Wanted viewers have led to the capture of nearly 1,200 fugitives over the years, and Hunter would become one of those fugitives.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to fans of the show, who keep a running tally of the fugitive's captured, Demores Hunter was a 744th fugitive to be found after a tip from an AMW viewer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Houston Chronicle reported that a tip came in after Hunter was aired on the show, investigators were right all along.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter had fled the state of Florida and was hiding out in Texas.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On Friday, February 21, 2003, at approximately 4pm, the Houston Violin Crimes Task Force arrested hunter at a home in the 5600 block of Billmark and southeast Houston.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was taken into custody in jailed in Texas, pending his extradition to Oakland.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: After his capture Teresa's mother, Leida Jones spoke to the Orlando Sentinel.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She told the outlet that she had almost lost hope that Hunter would ever be found, and that her daughter would still be alive if Hunter had been taken into custody after murdering Ivory Huntley.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And she was right, Teresa Green would still be alive if Hunter had been captured after murdering Ivory.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what is also true?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Both Ivory and Teresa would still be here if Hunter had been held appropriately accountable for the violence that came before them, the murder of Caesar Guzman, the shooting of Eric Wright, and the shooting of Adolfus Williams.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he literally shot Adolfus in the face with a sought-off shotgun.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How he was ever let out of prison after serving only 13 years is completely beyond me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if Hunter had simply served out the 24-year sentence, he had been handed down in that joke of a plea deal.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He would have still been behind bars at the time I very interracial remurtered.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But he wasn't, and now two women were dead, bringing the death toll to four at least that we know of.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Demoris Hunter was by definition a serial killer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a serial killer back in 1985 and certainly after committing two more murders, a serial killer in 2002.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, he was finally captured and said to be extradited back to California to face charges for Ivory's murder.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But would he actually be held accountable this time, or would the system once again give him a way out?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It took three long years before that question was ultimately answered.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Morris Hunter pled not guilty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In March of 2005, he was brought into an Alameda County courtroom to face the murder charge in the death of Ivora Ivory Huntley.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's a story for next week because, unfortunately, we are running out of time, and there is so much more to this story.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But before we go, I do want to talk about another one of Demors Hunter's victims.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter's crimes didn't only leave his murder victims in their families dealing with the consequences.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that alias hunter went by when he was on the run, wasn't made up out of thin air.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Berry was a very real person.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A very real person hunter had stolen the identity of while he was on the run.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Washington Post reported that Michael Berry was a 33-year-old political activist and executive with the independent women's forum in Washington, D.C.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was also a cancer survivor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At just 24 years old, Barry had been diagnosed with cancer and had undergone surgery and radiation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In January of 2002, Barry was trying to consolidate some of his debt onto a low interest credit card.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Michael Berry had always been responsible with his finances and had never missed a payment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So when his application was denied, according to the bank because he had opened too many new credit cards, he knew something was wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Berry got copies of his credit reports and discovered that someone had been opening accounts in his name, using his social, and that someone had spent thousands of dollars.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Washington Post reported that at least 15 credit card accounts have been opened in Barry's name.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Barry reached out to police and financial institutions trying to fix the problem, but law enforcement agencies were either reluctant or unable to investigate.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Police in California told him that he wasn't a resident, and the amount of fraud didn't meet their threshold for an investigation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Police in Arlington, Virginia, where he lived, told him that they had no jurisdiction over crimes in California.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Michael Barry was left essentially trying to investigate his own identity theft.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He eventually became so frustrated that he flew from Virginia to California.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One address kept appearing on his credit reports as his supposed address.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Barry rented a car and drove through South Central Los Angeles searching for the house, and he found it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The house was a well-cab bungalow and there was a short tattooed black male outside watering the lawn.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now's probably a good time to tell you that the real Michael Berry is a six foot tall white male.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Berry thought he had found the man using his identity, but he thought he was just dealing with an identity thief.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: a phone call changed everything.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You see, after Theresa Green had been killed, police in Orlando knew the suspect as Michael Berry, because that's the name to Morris Hunter had been living under.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But despite the physical differences between the real Michael Berry and Morris Hunter,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter was somehow able to obtain a California driver's license with Michael Barry's name, but Hunter's photo, and a fraudulent social security card with Barry's actual social security number.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So after Theresa's murder, Orlando Police Detective Barbara Bergen began searching for information about Michael Barry, and she requested identifying records from California.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She got the information and records for the real Michael Barry, but of course there was a problem.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses who knew the Michael Barion Orlando were describing him as a short African-American man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty quickly detective Bergen was able to put the pieces together and discover the true identity of the Mike Barion Orlando.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She connected Mike Barri to the Morris Hunter and demores Hunter to the prior murder in California.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Detective Barbara Bergen called the real Michael Barry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The detective told him that the person who had been impersonating him was a convicted killer now wanted in connection with murders in two separate states.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Barry later described this moment to the Washington Post stating, this wasn't just a fraud problem.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This was someone who was killing people posing as me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Detective Bergen went on to explain that authorities were issuing a national warrant for hunters arrest, and Michael Berry would be listed as one of his aliases.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The detective was afraid that this could create a real problem for Michael Berry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He could end up on the ground at gunpoint and handcuffs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Although law enforcement databases reportedly described the suspect as an African-American man, Bergen worried that officers encountering the real Michael Berry might focus on the name and disregard the discrepancies in physical descriptions.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She advised Berry to obtain letters from police departments in Orlando and Oakland verifying his true identity.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Berry was terrified any time he had to go out in public, especially after the case aired on America's most wanted.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was relief after Hunter was captured, but in the aftermath, Berry still had to deal with the identity theft, and at the time Berry spoke to the Washington post, authorities had still not determined exactly how Hunter obtained Berry's social security number.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How he had created identification in his name, who else may have been involved and how many people had actually been opening accounts using his identity.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then things got even worse.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: According to the Washington Post, when Barry watched the America's most wanted episode about Hunter,
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: He discovered that the show had actually displayed his social security number on its website.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Barry contacted the show and tried to get the number removed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Eventually his family sought help from their senator's office and the number was removed.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: For years, Michael Barry's credit was affected, and for months he lived in fear thinking he would be arrested at any moment.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Morris Hunter had spent decades hurting people, some were killed, some survived with devastating injuries, and then there was Michael Berry, a man who had never even met Hunter, but whose name and identity became a part of Hunter's attempt to disappear.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter's crimes created a trail of victims that extended far beyond the headlines and news stories, a trail of victims whose lives would never be the same.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that my friends is all I've got for this week.
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• 21:09
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for caring.
• 21:42
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• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And until next time, be good to each other.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really just don't get our justice system sometimes, like how in the hell was this guy ever let out a prison?
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: How did he get a 24-year prison sentence after murdering two people and shooting another in the face with a sought-off shotgun?
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's got to make it make sense because it just doesn't.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then to let him out after he served half of that, that my friend is crazy.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely freaking nuts.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Two children have now had to grow up without their moms, because this piece of shit wasn't how to countable for the first two murders he committed.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we'd like to think of this as an outlier, or that this is rare.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But murderers are released all the time.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you ask me, they shouldn't be.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: First, agree, premeditated murder should be an automatic life or death sentence, depending on the circumstances.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just how I feel about it.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our justice system is supposed to punish the guilty and protect the innocent and allowing a double murderer back out on the streets to commit two more murders, just ain't it.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it, but that's about enough about tomorrow's hunter.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before I hop off here tonight, I want to talk about Ivory, Big Iv Huntly.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, with a name like Big Iv, you already know she had to be cool.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't get a nickname like that if you're not.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's science.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Most importantly, Ivory died protecting her friend.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've seen the news.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of grown men probably two times her size wouldn't have stepped in to protect the woman who is getting beat.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Ivory did.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm sure that wasn't the first time, and it wouldn't have been the last time Hunter beat his girlfriend.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And as those little girls got older, well, I don't even want to imagine.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've a re-huntly died a hero, and she should forever be remembered for her heroic actions that day.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's about all I got to say about that.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You all know I love you more in my luggage, and I can't wait to talk it to you next week.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But until then, bye-bye-bye-bye!