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Credlin | 2 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Gooding, Welcome to the show on this Holy Thursday evening
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Speaker 2: as we head into the Easter season. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Credline. Anthony Albert Easy panned after his
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Speaker 2: empty address to the nation last night, followed up with
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Speaker 2: a pretty lackluster appearance at the Press Club this afternoon.
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Speaker 2: Are we joined by former Prime Minister Tony Abbott for
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Speaker 2: his verdict as well as what must be done to
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Speaker 2: ease the fuel crisis. A week's a long time in politics,
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Speaker 2: well in Victorian politics, even a day's a long time. Tonight,
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Speaker 2: in the stunning twist we've seen in the Moyer Deeming
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Speaker 2: pre selection bungle, are we joined on the desk by
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Speaker 2: the woman we're redeeming at the center of the storm.
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Speaker 2: Plus why does it take media outlets and the opposition
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Speaker 2: to expose hatred but Tony burg to boot in Islamic
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Speaker 2: cleric who praised Hitler worse? How is it given a
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Speaker 2: in the first place. I'll get you an update and
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Speaker 2: that on a bit later on. And the eyes of
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Speaker 2: the world today, we're on President Trump. He gave his
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Speaker 2: address as countries were told you're on your own when
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Speaker 2: it comes to the strait of.
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Speaker 3: Hormus build up, some delayed courage. Should have done it before,
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Speaker 3: should have done it with us as we asked, go
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Speaker 3: to the street and just take it.
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Speaker 2: But first, when prime minister's announce that they're going to
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Speaker 2: address the nation, they really should have something to say.
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Speaker 2: In the past, it's been for grave issues like a
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Speaker 2: declaration of war as Mensies did, committing Australian troops to
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Speaker 2: battle as Howard did, or the arrival of a pandemic
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Speaker 2: to our shores as we remember all too well under
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison, but not so with Anthony Albanezi. Last night's
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Speaker 2: three minute addressed the Nation was basically a plea to
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Speaker 2: use less fuel, not an explanation of what the government
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Speaker 2: would do to boost national resilience, telling all of us
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Speaker 2: that we need to do our bit, when clearly his
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Speaker 2: government hasn't done its.
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Speaker 4: The war in the Middle East has caused the biggest
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Speaker 4: increase in petrol and diesel prices in history. We're encouraging
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Speaker 4: a voluntary, common sense approach. We're also encouraging people who
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Speaker 4: can catch public transport but currently choose to drive, to
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Speaker 4: make the switch.
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Speaker 2: Last night's delivery in that three minute address to the
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Speaker 2: nation was pious preacher, not Prime Minister, a classic sort
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Speaker 2: of Year ten speech and drama stored to stick, not
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Speaker 2: the serious message from an adult, expected from an adult,
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Speaker 2: that we would want to see from a national leader.
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Speaker 2: And it reminded me of this the time that he
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Speaker 2: ripped off Hollywood and then got caught out in Australia.
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Speaker 4: We have serious challenges to solve and we need serious
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Speaker 4: people to solve them. Unfortunately, Tony Abbot is not the
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Speaker 4: least bit interested in fixing anything.
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Speaker 2: We have serious problems to solve and we need serious
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Speaker 2: people to solve them.
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Speaker 5: Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving.
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Speaker 2: That's what last night felt to me, a lot like that,
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Speaker 2: and that's Anthony Albanez's greatest failing as a leader. He
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Speaker 2: very rarely has anything of substance to say, because essentially
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Speaker 2: he's a spectator in our national life, responding to events
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Speaker 2: rather than shaping them as leaders should do. Reading the
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Speaker 2: words that you know his office is written for him
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Speaker 2: in the autoque after a briefing from party pollsters, and
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Speaker 2: today's National Press Club address was about everything else except
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Speaker 2: the current crisis to the extent that it had any
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Speaker 2: folks at all. It was about restrictions on gambling ads.
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Speaker 4: We are getting the balance right, letting adults have a
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Speaker 4: punt if they want to, but making sure that our
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Speaker 4: children don't see betting ads everywhere they look, because we
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Speaker 4: don't want kids growing up thinking that footing and gambling
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Speaker 4: are inextricably linked.
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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, properly regulate gaming ads, but honestly, it's
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Speaker 2: a fourth order issue. Sure, there was an announcement of
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Speaker 2: a further cut in the fuel Texas, but this was
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Speaker 2: because the States, not FEDS, had agreed to forego the
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Speaker 2: GST windfall from our skyrocketing fuel prices. Even the Canberra
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Speaker 2: press pack was pretty underwhelmed with question after question on
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Speaker 2: the fuel crisis and how the government proposed to deal
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Speaker 2: with it, rather than touching any of the shopping list
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Speaker 2: of little things the Prime Minister had thrown at them.
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Speaker 6: We took to the streets this morning and one construction
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Speaker 6: worker said he thought.
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Speaker 2: Your address to the nation last night was a.
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Speaker 6: Load of rubbish. He said that there was nothing in it,
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Speaker 6: but that's because he's worried ab his job.
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Speaker 5: Say, obviously there are a lot of uncertainties. But I
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Speaker 5: think the public was looking to your national address last
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Speaker 5: night for some clarity. So when you talk about the
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Speaker 5: challenges ahead, can you be a bit more specific about
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Speaker 5: what that is, how bad it could be, and what
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Speaker 5: that looks like for the average Australian family or worker.
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Speaker 7: We're now in a fuel crisis that's threatening the economy.
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Speaker 7: You've laid out a fairly cogent case for that. So
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Speaker 7: two things. Why no detail in that address last night?
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Speaker 7: White just a group hug.
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Speaker 2: Jesus the one thing for all of us here on
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Speaker 2: Sky News it around the country to have panned last
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Speaker 2: night's address quite another thing for his favorites in the
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Speaker 2: Canbra Press gallery to pull it apart as they did today.
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Speaker 2: But in opposition, Anthony Albanezi knew what needed to be
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Speaker 2: done here.
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Speaker 4: He is and at a time when petrol prices are
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Speaker 4: on everyone's minds, we need a government with a real
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Speaker 4: plan to ensure supply Australian flag vessels with Australian seafarers
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Speaker 4: in a strategic fleet.
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Speaker 8: And if your reserve that's accessible.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's when we couldn't do anything about it. Now,
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Speaker 2: after four years as Prime Minister, there's no sovereign fleet,
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Speaker 2: and there are no bigger reserves. What was there today
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Speaker 2: was doubling down and all the things the government's already doing,
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Speaker 2: which is essentially throwing your money at green energy, even
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Speaker 2: though for all the billions spent subsidizing wind and solar power,
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of our total energy still comes from fossil
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Speaker 2: fuels that this government can't help but demonize because they
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Speaker 2: think they're wrecking the planet. The killer question today was
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Speaker 2: the one about boosting our stocks of liquid fuels. As
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Speaker 2: you say, we're an island's nation.
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Speaker 9: We import the vast majority of our liquid fuels where
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Speaker 9: at the end of a very long supply chain. So
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Speaker 9: I'm wondering what is your government's long term plan to
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Speaker 9: make Australia either self sufficient or far more self sufficient
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Speaker 9: when it comes to liquid fills.
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Speaker 2: I'll spare you his rectoric because that was a question
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister didn't answer. He dodged and dodged and dodged.
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Speaker 2: Insteady claim that achieving the ninety days of reserves that
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Speaker 2: the International Energy Agency requires would cost some twenty billion
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Speaker 2: a year. Now, that's deeply implausible given the previous advice
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Speaker 2: was that creating such a supply storage units around the
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Speaker 2: country would require a levy of just three cents a
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Speaker 2: leter on fuel sales. So two essentially empty addresses in
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Speaker 2: just two days highlights what a hollow man we have
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Speaker 2: as leader. Plus Australia's irrelevance in world affairs, plus our
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Speaker 2: deep vulnerability to global events, here's the Prime Minister, yet
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Speaker 2: again making a virtue of the fact that we were
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Speaker 2: not consulted by the on action they took against Iran.
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Speaker 4: Australia wasn't consulted before this began. I do want to
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Speaker 4: see a de escalation and I want there to be
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Speaker 4: recognition as well greater clarity about how this ends.
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Speaker 2: Sit in the corner and have a winge. I mean,
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Speaker 2: every previous Prime minister, following the news that the US
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Speaker 2: was moving as second aircraft carrier group to the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: would have contacted the White House to offer Australian help,
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Speaker 2: because that's what allies do. But we know he can't
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Speaker 2: call the White House because no one wants to pick
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Speaker 2: up the phone. He doesn't matter. And when the Australian
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister doesn't matter, that's a serious problem for a
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Speaker 2: country like US, where our whole security strategy is built
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Speaker 2: off the back of US protection. Here's the PM again,
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Speaker 2: talking this afternoon about the government's measures to support heavy industry.
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Speaker 4: Keeping Australia moving means keeping out truckies on the road,
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Speaker 4: our miners and tradees on site.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, what he didn't mention there is that it's
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Speaker 2: its government policy that's made these plants uneconomic. They only
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Speaker 2: need government subsidies to survive because Labour's renewable energy obsession
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Speaker 2: has more than double their power bills. The Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: talks repeatedly about making things in Australia, Yet it's far
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Speaker 2: easier to nominate the things we no longer make, the
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Speaker 2: plants that have closed, things like our last big fertilizer manufacturer,
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Speaker 2: our last big raw plastics manufacturer, our last manufacturer of
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Speaker 2: architectural glass. Much harder to nominate all of those things
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Speaker 2: that it is to think of the things that we
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Speaker 2: make today that we didn't make four years ago before
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister arrived in the office. Today, the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister's only answer to the decline in sovereign manufacturing was
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Speaker 2: to bang on and on and on about his future
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Speaker 2: made Inness Astralia plan. That isn't a plan, it's just
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Speaker 2: a slogan.
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Speaker 4: We've been prepared to intervene to make sure that we
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Speaker 4: are more resilient and self reliant.
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Speaker 10: That's what the.
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Speaker 4: Critical Mineral Strategic Reserve that we announced dur in the
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Speaker 4: last campaign was about as well. So it's that principle
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Speaker 4: of a future made in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Who would have thought a comedy like this would turn
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Speaker 2: out to be so accurate.
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Speaker 10: We've settled on a concept, yeah, future proofing future p one,
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Speaker 10: huge initiative, long term vision aimed at future.
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Speaker 2: Proof Oh wow, that's fantastic.
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Speaker 10: This is just the buckup he needs.
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Speaker 2: I haven't told you what it is yet, Well you
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Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, we've got a date now, I've
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Speaker 2: got a name.
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Speaker 1: We've got a twenty five billion dollar budget now with
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Speaker 1: future proving, proof proofing, proofing. Sorry, Diane, Diane, Sorry, I'm
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Speaker 1: just going to need another enveloping.
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Speaker 2: Can you turn that into a document for me? Future
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Speaker 2: proofing proofing. Hey, well done, Thank you. Don't worry about
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Speaker 2: the detail. You just ne the slogan and a whole
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Speaker 2: bucket of money. I mean, those script writers must be
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Speaker 2: working in the Prime Minister's office right now. Our country
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Speaker 2: is in deep, deep trouble and almost everything this government
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Speaker 2: does makes it worse. All right, let's go to Camberra
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Speaker 2: now for tonight It's political Headlines Skyny's political reporter, Turning Macintosh.
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Speaker 6: The Prime Minister took to the stage at the National
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Speaker 6: Press Club just minutes after President Trump had wrapped up
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Speaker 6: his address on Iran. It was a pointed start from
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Speaker 6: Anthony Alberizi, despite not having seen everything the President had
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Speaker 6: said that he wants to see de escalation and questioned
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Speaker 6: what can be achieved from a prolonged conflict.
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Speaker 4: Is not clear, what more needs to be achieved or
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Speaker 4: what the endpoint looks like.
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Speaker 6: The shockwaves from the conflict are not just being felt
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Speaker 6: at the Bowser, but right across the food and supply chain.
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Speaker 6: The Prime Minister are now one billion dollars in interest
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Speaker 6: free loans for businesses doing it tough.
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Speaker 4: No government can promise to eliminate the pressures the global
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Speaker 4: crisis will impose, but we can be a buffer against
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Speaker 4: the worst of it.
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Speaker 6: The Press Club appearance are followed Wednesday nights addressed to
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Speaker 6: the nation. It's been criticized by everyday Australians for lacking detail, O.
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Speaker 9: Waste come I have to thank you.
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Speaker 2: It's damned if he does, and he's damned if he does.
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Speaker 1: I think it's poor.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a lot more he could do.
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Speaker 2: I thought something new was going to come out of
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Speaker 2: what he was saying.
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Speaker 6: And the Prime Minister also used today's addressed to announce
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Speaker 6: long awaited gambling reforms.
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Speaker 4: We are getting the balance right, letting adults have a
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Speaker 4: punt if they want to, but making sure that our
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Speaker 4: children don't see betting ads everywhere they look.
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Speaker 6: From January next year, the Government is proposing to limit
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Speaker 6: the number of gambling ads on TV between six am
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Speaker 6: and eight thirty pm, also a ban during live sports.
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Speaker 6: No gambling ads would be allowed on radio during school
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Speaker 6: pickup and drop off. Gambling ads would be banned online
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Speaker 6: with some carve outs. Celebrities and sports stars would not
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Speaker 6: be allowed in gambling ads, and no gambling ads would
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Speaker 6: be allowed on sports uniforms.
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Speaker 2: It should not have taken this Prime Minister more than
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Speaker 2: a thousand days to make a meaningful announcements.
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Speaker 6: The Government is doing the bare minimum to say that
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Speaker 6: they're taking action, and today the Prime Minister has squibbed it.
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Speaker 6: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News, Canberra, Okay, we.
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Speaker 2: Heard there from Trudy. The Prime Minister's address went down
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Speaker 2: like a lead balloon at the press club today. But
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Speaker 2: it wasn't just a press club. As I said that
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Speaker 2: all these favorites, they didn't like it. Australians didn't either.
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Speaker 3: What was last night exactly other than a complete waste
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Speaker 3: of time.
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Speaker 1: And by the time it was finished, most Australians were
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Speaker 1: wondering what the point of it was.
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Speaker 11: It felt like Seinfeld, I.
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Speaker 5: Think I can sum up the show for you with
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Speaker 5: one word.
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Speaker 10: Nothing, nothing nothing.
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Speaker 2: What does that mean?
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Speaker 10: The show is about nothing?
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Speaker 2: All right? Joining me now? My panel Skinne is contributed
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Speaker 2: to karenly Kats and Barnas and Chief of Staff and
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Speaker 2: One Nation James Ashby. We know now tonight I can
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Speaker 2: reveal Angus Taylor is going to give his address a
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Speaker 2: response to the Prime Minister's address at seven o'clock. We'll
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Speaker 2: have it here of course, live on Sky. But Caroly,
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Speaker 2: you know a lot of people today said the PM
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Speaker 2: should have just sent us an email rather than scare
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Speaker 2: the Jesus out of everyone all afternoon and say that
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Speaker 2: they'd be this address at seven o'clock. I heard that
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Speaker 2: around the country. You know, people were canceling their Easter plans, caravans.
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Speaker 2: One caravan park bloke said he'd got a call and
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Speaker 2: vans were canceled because they thought it was going to
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Speaker 2: be a whole lot of bad news.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, good evening, Payder and everyone. The problem is it's
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Speaker 12: three minutes, seventeen seconds that no one is going to
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Speaker 12: actually get back. He didn't need to send an email,
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Speaker 12: he didn't need to do anything. The fact is it
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Speaker 12: was pre recorded, and just half an hour before Western
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Speaker 12: Australia had declared a state of emergency, a pre recorded
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Speaker 12: message saying what exactly, saying absolutely nothing. The other thing
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Speaker 12: is he doesn't fulfill anybody with any confidence. He created
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Speaker 12: more questions than actual answers. He can't really honestly believe that.
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Speaker 12: And I do want to point out this, and I
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Speaker 12: am going into the intrails of this. Last night was
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Speaker 12: the first night of Jewish Passover, the seed a meal.
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Speaker 12: There's another one tonight, seven o'clock. I would have actually thought,
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Speaker 12: perhaps at the end of that ridiculous address, and we
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Speaker 12: all know that you don't say happy Easter, but he
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Speaker 12: might have actually acknowledged for Jewish Australians who've been to
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Speaker 12: Helen back for.
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Speaker 2: The last few years.
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Speaker 12: He might have actually acknowledged that it was one of
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Speaker 12: their special nights and then perhaps said to everybody have
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Speaker 12: a holy Easter. But no all about him not fulfilling
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Speaker 12: anybody with confidence and what a complete waste of time.
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Speaker 2: I want to get onto fuel, Jane, but I have
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Speaker 2: to put up on the screen image that people stopped
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Speaker 2: me in the streets and shown me today on their
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Speaker 2: phones and they were angry. You've got a national address
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Speaker 2: there from the Prime Minister and all really that's visible
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Speaker 2: is the Aboriginal flag. And they said, at least for
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Speaker 2: God's sake, and they were swearing, this is I'm giving
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Speaker 2: it to you, Evaden, on a night like that, on
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Speaker 2: a national address, they said, we want to see the
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Speaker 2: Australian flag to bring us all together. Did you get
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Speaker 2: any reflections on that, Well, I.
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Speaker 1: Haven't heard that, but I've heard of a lot of
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Speaker 1: feedback from businesses. Look, not only did the address lack data,
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Speaker 1: but it lacked any true understanding of what the community
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Speaker 1: is going through, the voters out there, the business community.
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Speaker 1: I've spent the afternoon talking to a mortgage broker who
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Speaker 1: has had back to back calls from people insisting on
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Speaker 1: locking in their home loans for the next two years.
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Speaker 1: They're worried about what's going to happen with interest rates.
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Speaker 1: I've got businesses, one in particularly this afternoon from Yrpoun
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Speaker 1: who's in hospitality, telling me that the Prime ministers wish
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Speaker 1: for her to have a normal and happy Easter is
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Speaker 1: not going to be so normal. She's not going to
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Speaker 1: get any enjoyment out of laying off two chefs and
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Speaker 1: cutting the hours of her staff because she's seen a
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Speaker 1: drop of fifty percent across her business. And she's not alone.
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Speaker 1: We've got other businesses I was told today that are
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Speaker 1: looking at ways in which to try and secure the
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Speaker 1: home and get them out of their own personal name
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Speaker 1: because they can see the writing on the wall with
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Speaker 1: their business that will not survive the next three months,
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Speaker 1: let alone the next three years. This is a Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister who has no true understanding of what ordinary, everyday
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Speaker 1: Australians are going through. The money is not there. We
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Speaker 1: were doing it tough enough before this fuel crisis, and
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry Australia just lacks any confidence in this bloke.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly, James, I want to go on to some
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Speaker 2: other things. You and I know how polsters work, you
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Speaker 2: know how these speeches are created. It felt to me
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Speaker 2: last night that there are a whole lot of words,
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Speaker 2: almost like a bingo card. I could go through and
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Speaker 2: mark them that were being hit in that three minutes
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Speaker 2: designed to reverse some of the polling decline we have
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Speaker 2: seen for the Prime Minister and I guess the loss
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Speaker 2: of faith people have in his ability to lead.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's algorithms they're writing these speeches for as well.
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Speaker 1: So there are select words that trigger little happy points
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Speaker 1: in algorithms on social media reels. He has missed the point.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think this was a sincere address to
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Speaker 1: the Australian public. I think it was very very deliberately
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Speaker 1: scripted and it sounded it too when it was delivered.
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Speaker 2: It didn't sound real, Caroly. Energy experts are saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: we're going to head two restrictions, particularly for motorists and
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Speaker 2: anyone in a non essential industry, saying it's inevitable. I've
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Speaker 2: been saying that this will come after Easter. Absolutely it
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Speaker 2: will come. They just want the politics to stay upbeat
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Speaker 2: into the Easter break. The PM set to fly to
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Speaker 2: Singapore potentially Malaysia after easter to try and shure up supplies.
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Speaker 2: But Australians feel like they're being conned. Well they do.
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Speaker 12: It's do as I say, not do as I do.
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Speaker 12: Why on earth would he be flying to Singapore or Malaysia.
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Speaker 12: There is zoom, there is picking up the phone. We
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Speaker 12: saw Chris Bowen in question time yesterday gloating, oh, I'm
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Speaker 12: ringing Brunei and I'm ringing Singapore on my counterparts. The
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister doesn't need to fly anywhere.
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Speaker 2: He actually needs to fix this.
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Speaker 12: And what his address yesterday should have been was either
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Speaker 12: to warn Australians that yes, we are going to have
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Speaker 12: to face fuel restrictions, because all he's doing is he's
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Speaker 12: putting people on edge.
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Speaker 2: No one has confidence in him.
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Speaker 12: And as you say, there will be fuel restrictions next
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Speaker 12: week after Easter and all this thing to people have
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Speaker 12: a normal easter and fill up a tank and take
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Speaker 12: what you need. In case he doesn't realize there are
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Speaker 12: people out there that actually can't affe forward to put
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Speaker 12: fuel or fill up a car, not to mention that
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Speaker 12: there are so many service stations without fuel at the moment.
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Speaker 2: What about the farmers as well.
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Speaker 12: I mean, there are people that need it to sow
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Speaker 12: the crops, to get food to market, to be able
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Speaker 12: to even do their normal daily lives.
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Speaker 2: This is just disgraceful.
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Speaker 12: And you know what you've asked me before about. Perhaps
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Speaker 12: he should have sent an email. It would have just
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Speaker 12: gone into the spam box.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, James, I paid over three dollars a letter today
20:27
Speaker 2: for about twenty letters. That's all that overally felt comfortable
20:31
Speaker 2: and taking just enough to get me around. But you've
20:33
Speaker 2: just come back from the United States. They were energy
20:36
Speaker 2: vulnerable in the seventies and eighties. They vowed and declared
20:40
Speaker 2: as a country they'd learned from that they'd make themselves
20:43
Speaker 2: sovereign in terms of their energy. Tell Australians what you
20:47
Speaker 2: saw fuel for over there, well's cheapest chips.
20:53
Speaker 1: There was really no movement. Now I've just come back
20:55
Speaker 1: from Dallas, as you rightfully point out, and the fuel
20:58
Speaker 1: prices you know, it's in gallons, but it works out
21:01
Speaker 1: just over a dollar fifty liter, and they've seen no
21:04
Speaker 1: movement in a state. Look, I know Texas is different
21:07
Speaker 1: to the rest of the United States.
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Speaker 2: It's got plenty of.
21:10
Speaker 1: Oil, but they've also got not just oil but refineries.
21:13
Speaker 1: And we could be the same way here in Australia,
21:16
Speaker 1: but no, we've shut them down. And a classic example
21:19
Speaker 1: and they're both to blame. We could bring back the
21:21
Speaker 1: Northern Endeavor, which has been sent by this government for scrapping,
21:26
Speaker 1: was shut down by the previous Morrison government that was
21:28
Speaker 1: in the Northern Waters off Australia. There it was capable
21:31
Speaker 1: of producing one hundred and eighty thousand barrels of oil
21:34
Speaker 1: a day and it had an on board refinery capable
21:38
Speaker 1: of holding over two million barrels of oil. But we've
21:41
Speaker 1: done away with that. There's still thirty million barrels of
21:43
Speaker 1: oil in that seabed that they've shut down and pretty
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Speaker 1: much condemned, and I think in the near future they'll
21:49
Speaker 1: probably give that to Team or less Day. But the
21:52
Speaker 1: reality is we've got the sovereign capability.
21:55
Speaker 2: To be able to do it here. There's no excuse
21:57
Speaker 2: for it.
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Speaker 1: We should be bringing that ship back before it goes
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Speaker 1: to the scrap yard, plug it back into the seabed
22:02
Speaker 1: and start pumping that oil out because we need it.
22:05
Speaker 1: It's desperate times, desperate measures, and we've got a Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister who hasn't uttered one word about bringing fuel security
22:12
Speaker 1: back to this country. And at least giving us ninety
22:16
Speaker 1: days of securityt alone, the capability of just doing our
22:20
Speaker 1: own refinery here permanently.
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Speaker 2: You're not wrong. We've got a green energy lecture this
22:25
Speaker 2: afternoon at the Press Club. Curly, I've got to ask
22:27
Speaker 2: you about Moradimi the whole saga. I will speak with
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Speaker 2: her live here on the set a little later in
22:33
Speaker 2: the show. But you know you've been around the Liberal
22:36
Speaker 2: Party in Victoria a long time. How damaging has this
22:39
Speaker 2: whole debarcle been? Disastrous? Catastrophic?
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Speaker 12: What I will say is I'm not close enough to
22:44
Speaker 12: the actual nuts and bolts of the Victorian Liberal Party,
22:47
Speaker 12: but what I can say is that from the public perception,
22:50
Speaker 12: it seems that the current President and Administration Committee, in
22:54
Speaker 12: the last few years, they have been at the center
22:56
Speaker 12: of every disaster that has befallen the Victorian Liberal Party.
23:00
Speaker 12: It's now actually got to the stage for the good
23:02
Speaker 12: of the party and no one is above the party.
23:05
Speaker 12: They need to stand down, they need to resign because
23:08
Speaker 12: every day that Jess Wilson and her parliamentary team take
23:11
Speaker 12: it up to try and get rid of the worst
23:13
Speaker 12: Victorian state government that the state has ever seen, suddenly
23:17
Speaker 12: there's a whole step backwards, and the public don't see
23:21
Speaker 12: the difference between the parliamentary wing of the Liberal Party
23:25
Speaker 12: and the organizational one, and really they should be as one.
23:29
Speaker 12: And all these shenanigans and these things that are being played,
23:31
Speaker 12: the reopening the pre selection at eleven fourteen, at nine
23:35
Speaker 12: and thirty six hours and ninety seven questions, a credit check,
23:38
Speaker 12: a police check, and ten signatures, not docu sign ten
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Speaker 12: people to vet somebody to run for pre selection. That's
23:47
Speaker 12: not enough time and it just looks murky. The other
23:50
Speaker 12: thing is I do know that very sadly, and I'm
23:53
Speaker 12: not for gender quotas one bit. No other female candidates
24:00
Speaker 12: submitted a form for this preselection. And I really do
24:03
Speaker 12: think that the Late Party has had enough and I
24:07
Speaker 12: think that if the current president and the Admin Committee
24:10
Speaker 12: looked in the mirror, what they are doing is not
24:13
Speaker 12: right and they need to stand down and go.
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Speaker 11: Well.
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Speaker 2: I'll have to leave it there. Thank you to you both.
24:19
Speaker 2: I will speak to you after Easter. Let's go down
24:22
Speaker 2: to the Bangladeshi preacher who's been given the boot, deported
24:25
Speaker 2: from Australia and has had his visa canceled after meeting.
24:30
Speaker 2: Reports raised alarms over his past extremist and anti Semitic remarks.
24:35
Speaker 2: Miss Anur Rahman Azahri has over ten million online followers,
24:41
Speaker 2: and he was in Australia as part of a speaking tour. Now.
24:44
Speaker 2: He's previously been barred from the United Kingdom and banned
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Speaker 2: from preaching in public congregations in Bangladesh. It was the
24:53
Speaker 2: opposition this week that forced focus on this man, asking
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Speaker 2: how on earth he was granted entry in the first place.
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Speaker 13: There's a range and a litany of examples of anti
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Speaker 13: Semitic hate speech, his maligning of the Hindu religion, demonizing
25:11
Speaker 13: of the Bengali culture. But this man, of course, despite
25:14
Speaker 13: all of this, and all of it on public record,
25:16
Speaker 13: tour my dad has been granted a visa to come here.
25:19
Speaker 13: So this is the same government allowing a man like
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Speaker 13: that to come into Australia and have talks like this.
25:26
Speaker 13: This is the same government who say we've got no
25:29
Speaker 13: a plan to repatriate these individuals to Australia. The so
25:31
Speaker 13: called Isis Brides.
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Speaker 2: That's the Liberal Shadow of Affairs Minister there, Senator Jonathan
25:37
Speaker 2: Dunham here to discuss the issue. Though former AFP Detective
25:41
Speaker 2: Superintendent David Craig wellad given he is barred from the
25:47
Speaker 2: United Kingdom, and we're a member of the Five Eyes,
25:49
Speaker 2: we share intelligence and other things. How on Earth is
25:52
Speaker 2: Home Affairs and the Minister let somebody like this get
25:56
Speaker 2: into Australia.
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Speaker 10: If it was a matter of Five Eyes intelligence, that there
26:02
Speaker 10: might be some sort of a gray area or some
26:04
Speaker 10: delay in knowing something. But seriously, a basic Google search
26:09
Speaker 10: on this person brings up a treasure trove of hatred.
26:13
Speaker 10: And surely, I mean the Foreign Affair is Tony Burk's
26:18
Speaker 10: department needs to be doing more if they're not doing
26:22
Speaker 10: a Google search on someone that's coming on a speaking tour.
26:25
Speaker 10: And I would expect any time I'm doing kenote speaking
26:28
Speaker 10: in another country, I should be Google. They should have
26:30
Speaker 10: a look at my character, find out what I'm talking
26:32
Speaker 10: about for I turn up. We don't even do that.
26:34
Speaker 10: We're talking about someone that will come in and disrupt
26:38
Speaker 10: social cohesion and radicalize people and has a known reputation
26:44
Speaker 10: for hate speech around the world, and just a Google
26:47
Speaker 10: search would be nice. No hidden intelligence. It's not a
26:49
Speaker 10: case of we should have you know, we should have known, it's.
26:53
Speaker 2: How do we not know? Yeah, I think You're right
26:58
Speaker 2: to point out the fact that he was doing a
26:59
Speaker 2: speaking tour amplifies the message. I'm sure there's money exchanged,
27:05
Speaker 2: perhaps people have to pay to turn up, or he
27:07
Speaker 2: has his costs covered to come to Australia. But that's
27:10
Speaker 2: a red flag on anyone. You know, if you're coming
27:12
Speaker 2: for a speaking tour in a febrile environment that we
27:15
Speaker 2: have right now in terms of anti Semitism and other things,
27:19
Speaker 2: you would look carefully into someone's background. Particularly I'm assuming
27:23
Speaker 2: on the form he says he's a preacher of some type.
27:28
Speaker 10: Well, the application for the visa would say that, and
27:31
Speaker 10: he must have been sponsored for the speaking tour. Now
27:34
Speaker 10: I don't know. The Islamic Practice and Darwai Circle are
27:40
Speaker 10: clearly organizing the tour. Whether they were the official sponsor
27:45
Speaker 10: for the visa application, I don't know. And we should
27:47
Speaker 10: point out Peter too, that this is a different Darwa
27:49
Speaker 10: group than the one that Wissam Hadad was part of.
27:53
Speaker 10: So there's some radical elements in some of these Darwin networks,
27:56
Speaker 10: but nothing that I've seen in relation to these people
27:58
Speaker 10: is publicly known. It's just beggars belief that if someone
28:04
Speaker 10: is going to have enough influence in society that we
28:07
Speaker 10: should at least do hook up and I artificial intelligence
28:12
Speaker 10: agent to Google search every single person coming into our country.
28:16
Speaker 10: Why wouldn't we do that at least and then refer
28:18
Speaker 10: things to the character assess character assassination, sorry, character Consideration
28:24
Speaker 10: unit of Home Affairs for more sort of rudimentary research
28:30
Speaker 10: into their background.
28:32
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, David Craig, Thank you. There you go.
28:36
Speaker 2: I was taping the Liberal Party for not doing a
28:38
Speaker 2: proper search and the bloke they had to bounce the
28:40
Speaker 2: other day and his leads to that convicted pedophile. But
28:43
Speaker 2: there you got Home Affairs. Goodness me all right, What
28:46
Speaker 2: are we going to make of the US President's speech today,
28:50
Speaker 2: what it means for conflict in the Middle East. We'll
28:52
Speaker 2: talk to Tony Abbat and asking what he made of
28:55
Speaker 2: the current Prime minister's addressed to the nation last night.
29:03
Speaker 2: Welcome Bouck coming up MOI redeeming. She'll have her say
29:06
Speaker 2: on the pre selection fiasco in Victoria. But down to
29:10
Speaker 2: the address from President Donald Trump earlier today, where he
29:12
Speaker 2: told Americans that the United States was nearing completion of
29:16
Speaker 2: its objectives in the war and urge other countries to
29:20
Speaker 2: quote show courage and to take care of the strait
29:24
Speaker 2: of hill moves. He also warned Iran that he would
29:27
Speaker 2: continue to hit hard for the next two or three weeks,
29:30
Speaker 2: again threatening power plants.
29:33
Speaker 3: The new group is less radical and much more reasonable.
29:37
Speaker 3: Yet if during this period of time no deal is made,
29:40
Speaker 3: we have our eyes or in key targets. If there
29:43
Speaker 3: is no deal, we are going to hit each and
29:45
Speaker 3: every one of their electric generating plants very hard and
29:49
Speaker 3: probably simultaneously.
29:52
Speaker 2: Right Johnny me now for his take on that, and
29:54
Speaker 2: a whole lot more. Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. Well, clearly, clearly,
30:00
Speaker 2: the president there is making it very clear that he
30:05
Speaker 2: expects other nations, and you know this is not just Europe.
30:09
Speaker 2: Australia's in here as well, to step up and do
30:12
Speaker 2: more when it comes to securing oil. Surprise, given he
30:16
Speaker 2: has gone in alone alongside Israel of course, to rid
30:21
Speaker 2: the world of these Islamist extremists.
30:25
Speaker 14: I don't like it, Peter, when the President's critical of Australia,
30:28
Speaker 14: but he has got a point. We should step up.
30:34
Speaker 14: And what amazes me is that once it was obvious
30:39
Speaker 14: that something was going to happen, our military chiefs did
30:42
Speaker 14: not make contact with the Americans. Our political leadership did
30:47
Speaker 14: not make contact with the Americans. Certainly, had it been me,
30:51
Speaker 14: you'd call the White House and you'd say to the President, well.
30:54
Speaker 2: We take a call. They don't take his call.
30:56
Speaker 14: Well, back in twenty fourteen and fifteen, we made a
31:00
Speaker 14: very significant contribution to reading the world of Islamic State.
31:05
Speaker 14: We send our strike fighters there, we send our special
31:08
Speaker 14: forces there, we send our command and control aircraft, our
31:11
Speaker 14: refuelers there. We could have made a very significant contribution.
31:16
Speaker 14: And frankly, there is no better cause right now than
31:20
Speaker 14: reading the world of this dreadful theocracy in Iran.
31:24
Speaker 2: You know, the US is now energy secure. He does
31:29
Speaker 2: not need the Strait of holl Moves opened, but we do.
31:33
Speaker 14: Europe does absolutely right, and this is where we have
31:38
Speaker 14: all got a step up. We can't expect America to
31:42
Speaker 14: do all the heavy lifting to keep the world safe.
31:45
Speaker 14: And whatever you think of Donald Trump personally, he remains
31:49
Speaker 14: the leader of the free world, the only leader the
31:52
Speaker 14: free world has, and that's why he deserves the support
31:57
Speaker 14: of Australia and Britain, in particular.
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Speaker 2: When you were PM, you did not make a national address.
32:03
Speaker 2: I remember we discussed at one time and you said, Peter,
32:06
Speaker 2: these are for very very grave occasions. What did you
32:12
Speaker 2: make of the Prime minister's address last night?
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Speaker 14: Well, it was deeply underwhelming because essentially he had nothing
32:18
Speaker 14: of great significance or substance to say. And yes, an
32:22
Speaker 14: address to the nation, you're basically saying to the whole
32:26
Speaker 14: twenty seven or twenty eight million of us, this is serious.
32:31
Speaker 14: You'd better listen. And what did he tell us? Go
32:34
Speaker 14: easy on the fuel? I mean, really, come on?
32:36
Speaker 2: Well today when he went to the press club, I
32:38
Speaker 2: thought we might get some more detail in there, but
32:40
Speaker 2: there was a lot of talk about what the problem
32:42
Speaker 2: was and we all know what the problems are. We
32:45
Speaker 2: don't have enough fuel in country, but there were no
32:47
Speaker 2: solutions on the table. Now, when he was opposition leader,
32:50
Speaker 2: I played a bit at the top of the show.
32:51
Speaker 2: He had ideas. He said, it's got to be more
32:53
Speaker 2: fuel storages. We've got to have more fuels in Australia,
32:56
Speaker 2: liquid fuels in Australia. Well he's got the job now,
32:59
Speaker 2: he can actually get this done and it's hand ringing
33:02
Speaker 2: yet again.
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Speaker 10: Correct.
33:03
Speaker 14: Look, today's address should have been about fuel security, energy security,
33:09
Speaker 14: because as we know, energy security is national security. And
33:15
Speaker 14: yet really all we got today I think you said
33:17
Speaker 14: it in your editorial earlier was a doubling down on
33:23
Speaker 14: the green energy net zero transition, and frankly, as we
33:29
Speaker 14: are learning this is economic suicide.
33:35
Speaker 7: Economic self heart.
33:36
Speaker 2: Look around the world where you've got the Europeans and
33:39
Speaker 2: they have nuclear pushed to the brink by the Russians.
33:42
Speaker 2: You've got nuclear now going into the UK. You've got
33:45
Speaker 2: nuclear being put back into the United States. You know
33:50
Speaker 2: when you have people like Tony Blair saying Enzero's gone,
33:53
Speaker 2: and that was before this war in Iran. Surely globally
33:57
Speaker 2: it's dead.
33:58
Speaker 14: Well, it's not dead here because the Albanese government is
34:02
Speaker 14: in love with it, it's obsessed with it, and yet
34:05
Speaker 14: it is doing us massive harm. I mean, he was
34:09
Speaker 14: talking today about Wyala, about Boyne, Ireland, the be heavy industries,
34:17
Speaker 14: which are all uneconomic because of the net zero emissions obsession.
34:25
Speaker 14: These were all very economic. These were the source of
34:29
Speaker 14: our economic strength when we had affordable, reliable fossil fuel power.
34:35
Speaker 14: And that's what I want to see from our Prime minister,
34:38
Speaker 14: a serious national resilience plan. And at the heart of
34:43
Speaker 14: national resilience will be energy security.
34:46
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Morodmi after the break, but
34:49
Speaker 2: I want to get your take on what's been a
34:52
Speaker 2: grubby messy. I need a fine couple of days from
34:55
Speaker 2: the Victorian Liberals, and I want to ask you this question.
34:58
Speaker 2: If someone liked more Deeming doesn't have a home inside
35:02
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party, then one nation's going to just keep
35:07
Speaker 2: eating into the Liberal Party's base. Surely people can see that.
35:11
Speaker 14: Well, they certainly should be able to see that. I
35:14
Speaker 14: just want to make this point, Peter. No one has
35:17
Speaker 14: fought harder to stay a Liberal than More Redeeming. She
35:22
Speaker 14: is just about the most committed Liberal I've ever seen.
35:27
Speaker 14: And yes, if the party doesn't have a place for her,
35:31
Speaker 14: well something is.
35:33
Speaker 2: Very very wrong. Does Victorian in a clean up?
35:36
Speaker 14: Well, Victoria needs a change of government, and for all
35:41
Speaker 14: the Liberal Party's faults, it remains by far the best
35:46
Speaker 14: hope of better government in this country. But it needs
35:49
Speaker 14: to be a better Liberal party.
35:50
Speaker 2: It needs to get a house in order. Thank you.
35:55
Speaker 2: Right after the break, we'll speak to More Redeeming. As
35:57
Speaker 2: Tony said, she's got every right to want to walk
35:59
Speaker 2: away from the Liberal Party, so will she She's made
36:02
Speaker 2: a decision. She's up next.
36:05
Speaker 5: Welcome back.
36:08
Speaker 2: Very interestingly, there's been a visit, an official visit by
36:12
Speaker 2: the Syrians to Germany, and the German Chancellor said today
36:15
Speaker 2: he wants the nine hundred thousand or so Syrians to
36:18
Speaker 2: leave Germany and return to their countries. It's the end
36:21
Speaker 2: of a peak migration, we will see. But now to
36:25
Speaker 2: the latest twist in the pre selection saga for Victoria
36:28
Speaker 2: and the mp wor Ademi. On Sundays, she was forced
36:31
Speaker 2: off the ticket and faced an uncertain political future until
36:35
Speaker 2: the man who had beaten her was found out as
36:39
Speaker 2: the one who had supported a convicted pedophile with a
36:41
Speaker 2: called reference, and he was removed. That meant the whole
36:45
Speaker 2: pre selection race was opened up for a second time
36:48
Speaker 2: after the President and his committee decided not to reindorse Deeming,
36:54
Speaker 2: so the race was on. The nominations closed today at
36:57
Speaker 2: twelve noon, and in addition to d there were three
37:01
Speaker 2: other names, so it looked like we're back to a
37:04
Speaker 2: contested pre selection. However, as we say, a week's a
37:08
Speaker 2: long time in politics, and days a long time in
37:10
Speaker 2: Victorian politics, one of those names was knocked out because
37:13
Speaker 2: of an insufficient application, and the others or they have
37:17
Speaker 2: now been removed. The last woman standing is the incumbent
37:22
Speaker 2: MP for the Western Metro regent. We're redeeming, and she
37:26
Speaker 2: joins me. Now I can reveal more to my viewers,
37:31
Speaker 2: who are a big fans and supporters of yours it
37:33
Speaker 2: as we go to air tonight. You are the last
37:35
Speaker 2: person in the pre selection race for the seat you
37:39
Speaker 2: currently hold, and as we speak right now, there is
37:43
Speaker 2: a motion circulating amongst the President and the members of
37:46
Speaker 2: the State Executive Committee to formally endorse you. How do
37:52
Speaker 2: you feel well?
37:54
Speaker 11: Until that's done, I can't speak about it at all
37:57
Speaker 11: because that would be a breach of the rules. But
37:59
Speaker 11: how I'm feeling is, you know, a little bit battered
38:02
Speaker 11: and bruised, but I feel resolute. I feel like I'm
38:05
Speaker 11: free now to do the job that I always wanted
38:06
Speaker 11: to do, and I just want to get on with it.
38:09
Speaker 2: Tony Abott said he doesn't know anyone else, and he's
38:12
Speaker 2: been around a long time in politics who has fought
38:15
Speaker 2: as long and as hard as you have to stay
38:19
Speaker 2: a liberal. You live in Western Melbourne. You know you
38:22
Speaker 2: live in an area where there are not many liberal MPs,
38:25
Speaker 2: let alone liberal supporters. Why are you a liberal?
38:29
Speaker 11: I'm a liberal because everything that I believe in, having
38:33
Speaker 11: been raised in labor, is written in our party platform.
38:38
Speaker 11: And I believe that we actually do resonate and our
38:41
Speaker 11: political philosophy and our economic philosophy does resonate with labor voters.
38:45
Speaker 11: If we would just stand our ground, I think they
38:48
Speaker 11: would come with us. And I've always believed that I
38:50
Speaker 11: was one over, they can be one over.
38:54
Speaker 2: I was saying the other night. You know, I've been
38:57
Speaker 2: to lots of party events around the years, but I
39:00
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it in January to go to your event
39:02
Speaker 2: out in western Melbourne, you know, a forty degree day,
39:06
Speaker 2: and there were seven hundred and fifty people out there
39:08
Speaker 2: in an area where traditionally the liberal parties really struggled
39:12
Speaker 2: to get traction. You know, why do you cut through
39:16
Speaker 2: out there when so many other liberals don't think?
39:23
Speaker 11: I think part of it was people listened to me
39:26
Speaker 11: because they saw what happened to me, and I stood
39:28
Speaker 11: my ground and I didn't betray the other women who
39:30
Speaker 11: were also innocent, and I just did the right thing.
39:34
Speaker 11: And I when I won, I think it encouraged everybody.
39:37
Speaker 11: And so there were people from all over Melbourne. Even
39:39
Speaker 11: when I was on the cross bench. Hundreds and hundreds
39:41
Speaker 11: of people came out to support me. I think people
39:44
Speaker 11: in Victoria are very very hard done by and very oppressed,
39:47
Speaker 11: and they want to see justice done. And they were
39:49
Speaker 11: really see so really happy to see justice done. And
39:52
Speaker 11: I think they'll be very happy tonight to see justice
39:54
Speaker 11: done again.
39:56
Speaker 2: You were supported in your pre selection with a reference
39:58
Speaker 2: from Jess Wilson. Are you confident you know these labor
40:02
Speaker 2: seats well? Are you confident that Jess Wilson and the
40:07
Speaker 2: team can take seats off labor at the November election if.
40:11
Speaker 11: We are true to our values and our beliefs and
40:13
Speaker 11: we can hold together as a team, Absolutely we can,
40:16
Speaker 11: and Victorians need us to remove this socialist government.
40:22
Speaker 2: East is all about resurrection. I think you've had a
40:24
Speaker 2: bit of a resurrection. I don't want to, you know,
40:27
Speaker 2: put the moths on you, given the circular motions still underway.
40:30
Speaker 2: As I said, I've never seen a response like it
40:33
Speaker 2: this week from my viewers. It's been extraordinary.
40:36
Speaker 11: Well, I'm just going to take it day by day,
40:38
Speaker 11: wait till things are certain. But I just want to
40:42
Speaker 11: say thank you to everybody who's ever stood by me.
40:44
Speaker 11: I know that there are people from every single party.
40:47
Speaker 11: When it looked like I was going to be rejected
40:50
Speaker 11: ultimately from my party, there were other parties that reached
40:52
Speaker 11: out to me, and I am so grateful and i
40:54
Speaker 11: just want everyone to know that I'm not going to
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Speaker 11: abandon my values. I'm going to stand on them like
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Speaker 11: I always have, and I'm going to fight for justice
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Speaker 11: in this state and especially the people in the West.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well done too, because last week the IOC came
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Speaker 2: out and said only biological women in women's sports. So
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Speaker 2: it took a while, but you're absolutely vindicated. Warra, Thank you,
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Speaker 2: thank you. Enjoy your roast to you and your family.
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Speaker 2: She is amazing. Gosh, it's been a fight, but anyway,
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Speaker 2: let's wait till it's formal and official after the break.
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Speaker 2: The reaction by the Mega supporters to Trump's remarks today
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Speaker 2: and that that point about Germany saying Syrians go home,
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Speaker 2: is this mass migration over Thursday. It's the international panel
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Speaker 2: and joining me now. Skynese contributed Koshergada and former Labor
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Speaker 2: MP Michael Danby and Michael, I'm coming to you on
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Speaker 2: your passover period two. I mentioned Easter for Christians, but
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Speaker 2: it's a very special time for Jewish Australians as well.
41:55
Speaker 2: So thank you for being with us tonight. What did
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Speaker 2: you make What did you make Michael today of the
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Speaker 2: speech from Donald Trump?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think that shows that America is divided. There
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Speaker 8: is an understanding in public opinion that they want Iran
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Speaker 8: taken down, but people are still afraid of boots on
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Speaker 8: the ground. There's a Harvard Harris pole that shows three
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Speaker 8: quarters of Americans want to stop Iran getting the nuclear
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Speaker 8: bomb and seventy six percent who say that there are
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Speaker 8: dangers to the United States. So opinion is divided, and
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump was addressing it. I'm not sure that it
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Speaker 8: was the final word on it, but it sure had
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Speaker 8: more content than the local one.
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Speaker 2: You're not wrong there. Let's go to you, Kosher. What
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Speaker 2: do you think that the mega supporter base would have
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Speaker 2: made of today's remarks.
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Speaker 15: I don't think it changed too many minds. I think
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Speaker 15: the speech tried to give a little to everybody. He
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Speaker 15: suggested it's wrapping up quickly, which is really what they
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Speaker 15: want because they didn't want to go into it to
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Speaker 15: begin with. But he didn't rule out anything either. He
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Speaker 15: said he's going to hit them hard. So does that
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Speaker 15: involve ground troops, Does it not involve ground troops, et cetera.
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Speaker 15: I think you know that the core Magabase has been
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Speaker 15: with him regardless.
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Speaker 13: Of the war.
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Speaker 15: They're just so staunchly protrumed, these people who famously he
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Speaker 15: said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and they
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Speaker 15: would never leave him. So they are with him till
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Speaker 15: the end. What's more interesting is a broader coalition that
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Speaker 15: he brought together and the way he won the White
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Speaker 15: House with independence and disaffective Democrats and other people. That
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Speaker 15: group is not very happy with it, and I'm not
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Speaker 15: sure today's speech changed their minds.
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Speaker 2: What about the remarks he made just the other day.
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Speaker 2: And look, a lot of this is a negotiating tactic,
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Speaker 2: I'm certain, Michael. But the comments he made that he
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Speaker 2: was strongly considering withdrawing the United States from NATO.
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Speaker 8: Well, it's incredible that Spain in France, who members of NATO,
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Speaker 8: do not let American aeroplanes overflow. What that means is, Peter,
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Speaker 8: is they've got to fly out into the Atlantic and
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Speaker 8: then approach the Mediterranean from Gibraltar. I mean, if you're
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Speaker 8: an American taxpayer who's spent trillions of dollars over decades.
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Speaker 8: You'd wonder what's the value of this treaty now, mister Rutter,
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Speaker 8: the Secretary General of NATO, and the good Allies from
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Speaker 8: Germany to Poland to Ukraine will pay the price for this.
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Speaker 8: But Spain and France have been awful and although the
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Speaker 8: British reading Week fifty two's take off, it's still terrible,
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Speaker 8: terrible stance.
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Speaker 2: Darma, and I think that Ruta's understanding of how finn
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Speaker 2: the ice is on which he skates is evident in
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Speaker 2: the fact that he's flying over the White House and
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Speaker 2: he's going to have a meeting. If that's televised, I'll
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Speaker 2: get the popcorn because I think he's really going to
44:55
Speaker 2: get it from the President. Koja talk us through this
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Speaker 2: executive order restricting birthright citizenship, and what we're told is
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Speaker 2: some skepticism from the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 15: Huge, huge deal, so much so that President Trump himself
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Speaker 15: sat in the Supreme Court I reportedly that has never happened,
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Speaker 15: No sitting president has done that. To indicate how fundamental
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Speaker 15: and consequential this is. This is the Fourteenth Amendment that
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Speaker 15: has the clause that anybody born on us soil and
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Speaker 15: subject to the jurisdiction thereof is automatically conferred to you
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Speaker 15: as citizenship. It was done out of the slavery and
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Speaker 15: emancipation of course, to allow children of slaves to have
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Speaker 15: that right. And as we know and we sit here
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Speaker 15: two hundred and fifty years later, it's expanded into illegals.
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Speaker 15: There's twenty thirty million illegals in America right now. Their
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Speaker 15: kids get birthright citizenship even though their parents came illegally.
45:45
Speaker 15: And there's other bizarre examples like birth tourism. There's reportedly
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Speaker 15: a million Chinese babies that are sent in. They're born,
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Speaker 15: they get US citizenship, and they can go back to China.
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Speaker 15: So it's obviously reaching a point of absurdity. The Trump
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Speaker 15: administration has issued in executive order saying that orange mutation
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Speaker 15: of the fourteenth Amendment would preclude that, and this is
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Speaker 15: being tested now, but people are as skeptical. Most legal
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Speaker 15: scholars believe that the court will not uphold this executive order,
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Speaker 15: and they will say, if you want to change that,
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Speaker 15: it's going to have to be done by statute in Congress,
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Speaker 15: which is a big deal and probably a blow for
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Speaker 15: his immigration agenda.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, can I just underscore that for people if you
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Speaker 2: were a pregnant Australian woman. You were on a holiday
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Speaker 2: in the United States and you had a pre term baby.
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Speaker 2: Let's say that baby would be a US citizen, even
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Speaker 2: though you had no intention yourself as staying there. You're
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Speaker 2: just on a holiday in Disneyland. But lo and behold,
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Speaker 2: the k could also be president, to be born in
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Speaker 2: the United States to run for office. Just quickly, Michael,
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Speaker 2: the German chance I think this is extraordinary. So there
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Speaker 2: was an official visit by the Syrians to Germany. The
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Speaker 2: Chancellor goes out at a press conference and says he
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Speaker 2: expects the nine hundred thousand on Syrians in Germany now
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Speaker 2: to go back to their homeland. This is significant.
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Speaker 8: Peter I used to love Mutti Merkel, but she led
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Speaker 8: in a million people. Some of them were said to
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Speaker 8: be from Syria, but many from Afghanistan and parts beyond
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Speaker 8: to trapes into Germany. Across Europe, this has set the
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Speaker 8: whole balance of many countries askew, and particularly in Germany,
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Speaker 8: and it's led to the increasing popularity of alternative for Deutschland,
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Speaker 8: the far right party. So he's doing the right thing,
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Speaker 8: just like the Gazans who are here, who have got
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Speaker 8: tourist visas. They should go back if there is peace
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Speaker 8: there and there is a ceasefire so that Syrians they've
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Speaker 8: got a government that's now acceptable to Donald Trump into Germany,
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Speaker 8: so back to back to Syria, they should go.
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Speaker 2: KOs. I'm going to get a comment from you. I'm conscious.
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Speaker 2: At seven o'clock we're going to flick over and see
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Speaker 2: the speech from Angus Taylor. But your thoughts.
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Speaker 15: I think everyone agrees it should happen, but I'll believe
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Speaker 15: it when it does, because you know, words are cheap
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Speaker 15: enforcement and actually getting them out of the country is
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Speaker 15: quite another matter.
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Speaker 3: True point right.
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Speaker 2: Please everyone stay safe over this Holy Easter season, and Michael,
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Speaker 2: to your community, I don't know that I say happy Passover,
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Speaker 2: but whatever I'm supposed to say, I extend my best
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Speaker 2: to Jewish Australians on this very special time for you
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Speaker 2: as well. Thank you for your company. I'll see you
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Speaker 2: Monday night. I'm not taking leave. I'll see you on
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Speaker 2: Monday night. Up next, though, is Angus Taylor and his
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Speaker 2: reply to last night's National Address from the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: Then we'll go to Andrew Bolt