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S4 #11 After After the Final Rose · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. We understand that you have waited patiently.
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  Speaker 1: We have been waiting patiently to get this podcast out
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  Speaker 1: to you. My name is Ben in my coast. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: will be arriving very quickly. She has been busy all
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  Speaker 1: day doing pressed answering all the questions about the crazy
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  Speaker 1: They're dramatic, be also exciting last episodes of this season
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  Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. I would like to start this podcast
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  Speaker 1: because I got the stage, and I'm all by myself
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  Speaker 1: and and I got a moment just to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you all. I'd like to start this this podcast by saying,
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  Speaker 1: this season of The Bachelor is one that I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we will remember only because of these last two episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the last night from my house in Denver, Colorado, UH,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much in awe of the most sort roller coasters.
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  Speaker 1: This show somehow took me through once again. It really
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  Speaker 1: is crazy to me that The Bachelor, year over year
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  Speaker 1: over year, no matter how you know, boring, no matter
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  Speaker 1: how uh, non dramatic, the whole season is at some
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  Speaker 1: point and every season I find myself on the edge
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  Speaker 1: of my seat with my hands over my space anxiously
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  Speaker 1: awaiting the ending of the season, and last night was
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  Speaker 1: was no different. Um. Just to quickly recap are season,
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor was was not without controversy. Um. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Ari was criticized for sometimes being distant, not exactly being relatable.
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  Speaker 1: But there's one thing that nobody ever criticized for. He
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  Speaker 1: was always very authentic. He followed his heart throughout the
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  Speaker 1: whole season. Um, even sometimes to to a fault, as
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  Speaker 1: we talked about in our last episode of the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Even sometimes when Ari could have been a little more engaging,
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  Speaker 1: a little more exciting, a little more uh communicative, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't because that's not who he is. And so as
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  Speaker 1: a result, I feel like we got to know Ari
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  Speaker 1: for who he is, and that's an authentic, genuine person
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  Speaker 1: who was looking for love. Uh. Last night Uh, during
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  Speaker 1: the final episode, are we fought off for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: Ari with his his second choice, but but I guess
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  Speaker 1: now his first choice Lauren. Uh. Lauren already got engaged
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  Speaker 1: uh in a in a somewhat weird fashion. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of found it. I don't know if any of you
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  Speaker 1: did it, if you found last night's engagement just it
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  Speaker 1: just still feel felt a little odd. Please email us
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  Speaker 1: and let us know it been in Ashley at i
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  Speaker 1: heeart media dot com. I felt, uh, just like I
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  Speaker 1: was watching something that seemed in a sense force And
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  Speaker 1: here's the weird part for me. I know that um
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  Speaker 1: Ari was gonna surprise Lauren with the engagement. I get that,
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  Speaker 1: but I also saw that Kimmel knew that they were
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  Speaker 1: getting engaged that evening. So I'm a little confused on
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  Speaker 1: how how this all the timeline worked out. Was it
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  Speaker 1: actually a surprise that they got engaged on after the
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  Speaker 1: final ros or wasn't not? And if it wasn't, maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's why I just felt like that whole scenario seemed
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  Speaker 1: for um But with all that being said, uh, we
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  Speaker 1: do wish Ari and Lauren the best moving forward. Um
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  Speaker 1: you know, if if he did find love and if
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  Speaker 1: she found love uh during the season as well, then
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're here for. And we can't deny the
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  Speaker 1: fact that even though it didn't work out the way
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  Speaker 1: that it would have been the fairytale ending that we
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  Speaker 1: would have preferred as fans of the show. Maybe the
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  Speaker 1: fairy tale is yet to be told. In a few
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  Speaker 1: months from now or maybe a year from now. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be watching or or hearing about a wedding between Ari
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  Speaker 1: and Lauren at that point. Uh, this will be one
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  Speaker 1: of the few back to success stories that we need
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  Speaker 1: to celebrate because at the end of the day, where
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  Speaker 1: this for one thing, and that's Love's the backtor stand on.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the back to exists, and that's why the
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  Speaker 1: Bachtor continuing the in the future. UM. Let me read
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  Speaker 1: an email real quick, um from Kelsey just kind of
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  Speaker 1: relating back to the Bachlor. It says, I was curious
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  Speaker 1: about a bachelor's secret that I was hoping you could share.
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  Speaker 1: The final episode always takes place in a distant location.
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  Speaker 1: How long does the runner up have to stay until
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  Speaker 1: they're able to go home? Are they able to tell
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  Speaker 1: their families and lean on them for support? So I
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  Speaker 1: I want to read this question now because I think
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  Speaker 1: this kind of puts everything in perspective as we're, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thinking about Lauren's experience on the show. After the engagement,
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  Speaker 1: the original engagement between Beck and Ari, what was Lauren
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  Speaker 1: doing in that meantime? Did she gets to go home
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  Speaker 1: right away? She had to be stuck on in Peru
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  Speaker 1: um and And honestly, this is what happened. So the
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  Speaker 1: final day happened, the engagement happened, and the couple UH
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  Speaker 1: goes off into their own little hideaway for a few
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  Speaker 1: days to kind of celebrate as a couple and take
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  Speaker 1: a deep breath and rest and relax and kind of
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  Speaker 1: figure out who they are a couples. The runner up
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  Speaker 1: UH is then kind of stuck in this location until
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  Speaker 1: that couple goes home because the big reason there is
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  Speaker 1: because the show doesn't want any spoilers, that doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: anything to be ruined, and so the couples all have
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  Speaker 1: to kind of go home at the same time. So
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  Speaker 1: doesn't look like anybody would sit home early because there's
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  Speaker 1: a ton of paparazzi. There's a ton of people out
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  Speaker 1: there looking for spoilers, trying to figure out and get
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  Speaker 1: to the bottom of this season of the show or
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  Speaker 1: every season the show, and so yet the runner up
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  Speaker 1: has to stay on location wherever that last location is
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  Speaker 1: until the couple goes on themselves. Now if they have
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  Speaker 1: contact with their family or not they do. UH. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the show is not evil. You know, if you're broken up,
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  Speaker 1: what they want you to be able to lean on
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  Speaker 1: the people that you love the most. Um, and so
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  Speaker 1: they do give you contact with your phone again. You
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  Speaker 1: have your phone, you have your computer, you have a TV.
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  Speaker 1: For the first time in a long time, you're able
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  Speaker 1: to get back in contact with the outside world. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: it is true that the runner up still has to
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  Speaker 1: stay on location for a while. UM. Let me let
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  Speaker 1: me read you another one here real quick before we
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  Speaker 1: get into uh. And we kind of move forward until
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  Speaker 1: this really exciting new season back thread that I have
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  Speaker 1: stoked about, and then I can't wait to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you about. But but let me read an email before
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  Speaker 1: that from Hannah. It's called the Final Rose Broke. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I love this podcast, Hannah said. It is
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  Speaker 1: my go to podcast to listen to on my commute.
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  Speaker 1: As we all know, this episode was a train wreck, Hannah,
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  Speaker 1: we can all agree the hype unedited never before seeing
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  Speaker 1: ending was unnecessary and should have been done in private.
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  Speaker 1: As much as I stand by my statement, America could
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  Speaker 1: not watch this actual dumpster fire unfold, truly, I could
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  Speaker 1: not look away. As my mom said during this episode
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  Speaker 1: and so many episodes prior, the man needs Jesus. We
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  Speaker 1: all need Jesus. Hannah. Come on, after I proposed and
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  Speaker 1: he and Becca were backing in their happiness, already picked
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  Speaker 1: up and spins her around, unfortunately damaging the roads in
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  Speaker 1: the process. The final literally broke tell me that it's
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  Speaker 1: not some weird for chattering done by God himself. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I felt really underwhelmed with this season as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: Excited to see what comes out of the franchise next. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: love the podcast, Love you both, wishing you to blessings
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  Speaker 1: on Blessings, Hannah, thank you for the email. You make
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  Speaker 1: some great points, the ones that I don't think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people would disagree. It's actually the popular opinion
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  Speaker 1: is is that, yeah, this season was a train wreck,
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  Speaker 1: as most seasons kind of are. I mean, we look
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  Speaker 1: back here in the last four seasons. You can go
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  Speaker 1: back to next season and you can kind of see
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  Speaker 1: the dramas unfold amongst that season and the women kind
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  Speaker 1: of uh arguing amongst each other, and the lack of
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  Speaker 1: friendships that existed, and then you see, you know, Nick
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  Speaker 1: kind of come out with Vanessa when when sometimes the
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  Speaker 1: fan favorite was Raven. But you know, Vanessa ends up
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  Speaker 1: uh standing victorious with Nick at the end, and people
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  Speaker 1: were criticizing Nick for not choosing raven that happens you
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  Speaker 1: go back to my season, I mean, you know that
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  Speaker 1: crazy guys, we too women he loved them uh and
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  Speaker 1: and in love with with one woman um for the
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  Speaker 1: long haul and Jojo ends up becoming one of the
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  Speaker 1: most popular and bachelors of all times. We'll go back
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  Speaker 1: again to to Caitlin's season. Uh, let's and we'll stop here.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, caitlin season was one that had some
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  Speaker 1: of the most dramatic experience as an event. Let's remember,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the the the snapchat reveal that Caitlin and
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  Speaker 1: Sean did. Also you know Nick coming onto the season
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  Speaker 1: halfway in and making it to the final two. UM
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  Speaker 1: in that season was full of dramatic experiences, Caitlin said
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  Speaker 1: of the state above approach um the whole time. But
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  Speaker 1: every season, no matter how great or how boring or
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  Speaker 1: how non exciting the backer backer is, every season is
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  Speaker 1: a train wreck. We can all agree. It really just
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  Speaker 1: comes down to is the season gonna lead to love
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  Speaker 1: or is it not? And and hopefully this season you
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  Speaker 1: know it dead leads a love no matter if we
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  Speaker 1: like it or not how it played out, Hopefully it
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  Speaker 1: leads to love. Uh. And then I want to just
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  Speaker 1: talk here for a second. Your second paragraph is very thoughtful. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the Final Roads literally broke? Is that some foreshadowing done
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  Speaker 1: by God himself? Uh? You know, I did this experience
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  Speaker 1: personally because I believe it was very decision dream but
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  Speaker 1: I I have a hard time and we can get
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  Speaker 1: a pastor on the phone here in a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: believing that that God would intervene in this way during
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  Speaker 1: a show to foreshadow the final conclusion. If he did, great, Um,
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  Speaker 1: But but you'd have a hard time. Hannah convinced me
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  Speaker 1: of that either way. It was a little crazy. That
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  Speaker 1: is has Becca picked up the Final Roads? It broke? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and she she reached down to get it again. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, Becca is now no longer with a road.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna move in talking about the fact that
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  Speaker 1: now Becca is our back threat and America is ecstatic.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know in my three years involved in this
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  Speaker 1: franchise that I've ever seen a response like this one.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding. I was tweeting uh during
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  Speaker 1: the first half of After the Final Roads, and I
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  Speaker 1: had more people retweeting, tweeting at me, commenting at me
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  Speaker 1: than I've ever had before. I think I had twenty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand lights on my Twitter. I usually get somewhere
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  Speaker 1: around like five two thousand, and so it's very obvious
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  Speaker 1: to me that people are excited about this next season
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  Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette. Beckett is definitely gonna be popular. She
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  Speaker 1: should be. I mean, she is classy, she's beautiful, she
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  Speaker 1: has a heart of goal, but she's she's a boss lady.
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  Speaker 1: You we know going into this season that she's gonna
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  Speaker 1: put her foot down, um, that she's going to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that she is on a pursuit that is her
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  Speaker 1: experience in her journey, and she's not gonna let any
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  Speaker 1: of these guys, no matter what their antics, get in
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  Speaker 1: the way of that. You know. Over the last twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours, um, I've gotten a lot of comments on
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  Speaker 1: social media about me going back on this season, which
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  Speaker 1: is interesting me. And also, you know, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: think it as a compliment because if if the viewers
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  Speaker 1: and fans out there believed that I would a good
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  Speaker 1: match Rebecca, that is a huge compliment to me because
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  Speaker 1: she is really an incredible person and from what I
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  Speaker 1: hear from all of her friends, what you see on
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  Speaker 1: TV isn't half of as great as she is outside
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  Speaker 1: of television, that her heart really is of gold, that
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  Speaker 1: she is classy, and we saw that with this crazy breakup.
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  Speaker 1: So this crazy scenario that came through over the last
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  Speaker 1: few episodes of this season. UM, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the coolest parts and one of the biggest things that
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  Speaker 1: stood up to me during this last episode was, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's this go fund me page that was started up
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  Speaker 1: and honor of Becca so that she'd go to drink well.
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  Speaker 1: It grew to six thousand people, and Becket right away
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  Speaker 1: knew what you want to donate this to? She wanted
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  Speaker 1: to donate to stand Up to cancer. Um. Instead of
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  Speaker 1: taking this money for herself with she could have done
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  Speaker 1: the go fund me pages under her name, she said, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna donate this to stand Up to Cancer. ABC
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  Speaker 1: and Chris Harrison matched it and then allowed me to
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  Speaker 1: be inspired so inspired that Generous Coffee is the company
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  Speaker 1: that I that I operate. We're donating all profits now
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  Speaker 1: for the next uh really twenty four hours to stand
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  Speaker 1: Up to Cancer, which was really led by Becca and ABC.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think there's no better way to start
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  Speaker 1: a season of back threat that we're all anticipating that
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  Speaker 1: we're all excited about, then a little act of charity, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and try to get people involved in a little something
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  Speaker 1: bigger than themselves. I mean, if if we're not watching
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  Speaker 1: the show, if we're not engaged in the show as fans,
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  Speaker 1: um to not only find the love story, but also
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  Speaker 1: that hopefully all these contestants can come back and use
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  Speaker 1: this new platform, this new given platform that they're literally
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  Speaker 1: handed to do something good with. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: we're doing, um, And so I'm excited. I'm excited about
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. I'm not as thrilled about the bachelord And
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  Speaker 1: and we'll continue to talk about that throughout the episode.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna bring Gayson Mesnick in and just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit we're gonna get his expert opinion on exactly what
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  Speaker 1: went down, um with this situation, kind of hear his
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on how ari he could have done a better UM.
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  Speaker 1: I also want to hear from Jason, you know, what
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  Speaker 1: is it gonna be like for our now moving forward
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  Speaker 1: with Lauren? Uh, you know, kind of being for lack
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  Speaker 1: of a better word, their new relationship not being celebrated.
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  Speaker 1: Is it gonna be difficult? What is his tips for
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  Speaker 1: Ari on how to get through it? What is this
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  Speaker 1: tip for maybe Laurence on how to support and get
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  Speaker 1: through this situation. So we're gonna bring Jay Domestic onto
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  Speaker 1: the podcast here a little bit. I'm ecstatic to hear
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  Speaker 1: from him. I mean, I don't think there's any better
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this whole season has felt weird
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  Speaker 1: at the you know, almost famous podcast, all the way
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  Speaker 1: up to after the final road I think asking I've
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  Speaker 1: had a hard time connecting with this season, um, and
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  Speaker 1: last night really was no different. Uh. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: watched last night's episode kind of anticipating, um some closure,
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  Speaker 1: uh maybe some answered questions, and the really the only
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  Speaker 1: answered question I got was one from R that I
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  Speaker 1: was really hoping again. And I don't know if any
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  Speaker 1: of you caught it out there. Um Art made a
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  Speaker 1: statement that I really believed he meant. So the question
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  Speaker 1: was asked him why did he do the breakup on campus?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Something that America has been asking ever since we watched
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: on television and people from all over Bachelor Nations, former
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Bachelor contestants, uh, massive journalism, massive newspapers uh, popular journalists
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: have all questioned, why in the world was this shown
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: on camera? Why would Ari agree to this? I've asked
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that same question, and Are said something last night that
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I believe he meant. Um that I could actually semi
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: relate with and I want to talk about a little bit,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Arid says as he's talking to Becky, he goes, I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: did it on camera because I wanted to show the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: world that this was on me. So if that was
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: his intentions, we can't question is we should believe that
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: he is telling the truth because I don't know Ari personally.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: We've we've never really been able to talk other than
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: on this podcast. Everybody has talked to you that knows Ari. Uh,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you know, other than the women on a season really
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: like Ari. And and we'll get into, you know, how
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the other women on the season feel in a second.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I have my theories for Zett. So if Ri is
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: going to say that, let's just assume, but he's completely
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: telling the truth. The issue I have is that if
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he was going to put it on himself, his conversation
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: with Second didn't feel like it. You all agree. I mean,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that's my biggest thing is we watched the breakup two
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: nights ago. It just felt like Ari he wasn't putting
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: on himself. I felt like he was putting on Becca
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: or he's putting it more on just his his conflicted feelings.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: He wasn't saying, Hey, this is on me. I'm owning this.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: This is a really unfortunate situation. There was really no
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: emotion show, but Ari he did ask the question that
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: we've all been wondering, why in the world was a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Shawn on camera? And he says that he believed that
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: showing on camera would solidify that this was his fault,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that this was his problem to deal with, that this
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: was his burden to carry. And I mean, let's all
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: be honest. During that breakup, there's two things that happened.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Everybody turned against Sar and everybody turned towards second. So
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: if Ari's intention was to put this on himself, maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: he did do this. Well, maybe this did work, And
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: maybe him doing this let us and now have Becca
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: as going to the season probably the most love, most cherish,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: most congratulated um Bachelorette that we've we've ever had. I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: think that, no matter how this played out in the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: last few episodes of it was weird or not, Um,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: by already doing the break of on camera allowed us
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: all to fall in love with Decca a little bit
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: more and wish for her that this next season the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette is one that we can look back on and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: say it was a success story, because I truly believe
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: it will be. I think Becca is ready from everything
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I hear she's ready, and I hear this from all
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: over front. I had the opportunity and I just to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: spend some time with some of the women that were
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: on our season The Bachelor, and I typically don't get
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to do this, but they're all there for the first
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: after the final rows, and we're staying the same hotels,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: so we're able to talk awhile. And it's always interesting
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to me that to kind of hear the perspective of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the men and women that get off the season. Um,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: most of the time, I feel like these men and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: women that get off of this season really have a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: dislike towards the Bachelor Bachelor, and that's honestly, it's a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: little unfortunate because the one thing that happens during this
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: show is that often times there's heartbreak. Uh there's really
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: heartbreak for everybody except one person, and that's the person
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: standing this in and in our situation, everybody felt heartbreak
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: at some point. And so let's break this down for
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a second. You know, we watched it last night on
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: on after the Final Rose, that you know, these women
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: were kind of had a distaste towards our and I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: get that, right, I get it because they all have
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: one thing in common. They've all been broken up with
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: by our Uh just like the guys during Racil season,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: we're all broken up with by Rachel. But I feel
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: like I feel like this season was a little different
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: most seasons, there isn't this incredible um as towards the bachelorbata.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: But but but last night we saw I think it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: was five of Becca's friends sit up on stage and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: really celebrate her but really now talk highly of our.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if there's more to that than just
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the fact that they got broken up. But I'm wondering
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: if there is more to this season. Um and they're
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: just taste that causes their just pastewords are and what
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: we saw, um, but it happens every season. This isn't uncommon.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: The women on on my season, Uh, we're all very
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: angry with me, even so my friends that I call
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: friends today, Uh, some you know, my closest friends. Like
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that gets Tilly. She'll tell you, Yeah, there was a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: moment there where she was really upset with me. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I get that because you're getting broken up with and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: relationships are ending. But let's keep us in the perspective
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: that everybody, as I said earlier, is getting broken up
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: with during this season except for one person that's the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: baster back thread. Sometimes do not have an easy way
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to turn that. It would be great if everybody isn't
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: up happy, but it's just not gonna happen. And so
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: my request or what I would desire for any bacheor
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Bachelor right from here in the future is that they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: just do it with respect and dignity. And I, you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I did that or not. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: guess that's up to you. Also, again, please email us
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that been an actually at I hurt Me dot Com.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Let us know if you feel like Ari's breakups we're
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: done with dignity, um, if there is respect done with him,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: if you felt like he explained himself well enough. Because
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I remember going back and and this was one of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the hardest parts about the Bachelor for me is there
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was very few days that I didn't shed a tear. Um,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: not because I have a big soft heart and I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: super sensitive, just because you get tired of hurting people
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: all time. You feel like from day one to the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: very last day. All you do every day is you
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: have to hurt somebody. You have to stay goodbye to somebody.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: You have to tell somebody that they're no longer wanted there,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and that hurts. You get really good at breaking up
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: with people, and as a result, you get really bad
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: at keeping a soft heart in your heart can easily
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: get hardened. And I think for all of us out there,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is we're watching this season kind of come to an end,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: we have to remember that Ari is now starting to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: recover in an emotional place that he he hasn't been
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in three months. He's finally able to be happy publicly.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Let's think about that. For the first time in three months,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Ari is able to be happy publicly. He's now I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: believed that was Lauren by his side, and it has
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: felt like last night, and I think I tweeted this out. Um,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Lauren is there for the long haul. She's sitting next
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to her man and she's saying, all right, I've got
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: your back. I know this was hard, I know you
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: made a mistake, but I've got you. And I think
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he's looking at her hopefully saying, Lauren, I've got your back.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I know this has been hard. I know I made
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a mistake, but I love you, and I hope that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: is the thought process that he has going into the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: rest of their relationship. Is I mean, what an incredible
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: partner to have for Lauren to look at him last
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: night and say, you know what, this is a really
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: hard situation for him, and I'm just glad that he
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: ends up with me in the end. I mean, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I just felt this like unending, unnerving love and support,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: uh that she was you know, portraying last night and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and exuding in their relationship. And I mean, if that's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the case, if they can give that to each other,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: or you can get that back to Laurence. I mean,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this relationship is one that we might want to watch.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It could be one that is a love story. Uh
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that kind of mirrors are good buddy Jason, who, as
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I said, will be on this podcast later. So there's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions for Jason coming up. We're all
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: excited to hear from. Actually, we'll be coming in the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: studio here pretty soon. Um. But before we do, UM,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I want to kind of take these last few minutes
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: here that I have all by myself and just kind
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of hype up this next season, the back threat. We
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: have a we have a couple of months to wait. Uh,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: they'll start filming this season here in the next week
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: or so. Um. You know we we got to meet
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a couple of Becca's men last night, so over impressive. Uh.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I think they're all pretty nervous. What a
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: weird situation to be in where you know, before you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you're standing out on stage on national television, on live television,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and you're introducing yourself to what could be your future wife. UM.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I felt like the guys did a fine job. They
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: all seem pretty confident. All of them seem a little nervous.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I thought the first guy with the accent, he stayed
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a little long. I started to get that awkward feeling
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: like okay, you can go now. Um. But again, like
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he has nothing to compare this to. Uh last night,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: And I've got to talk to Dean about this before.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Dean Ungler who has a podcast Without Heart Radio as well,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and it's a good buddy of mine. Um, I talked
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to you a couple of weeks ago about, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: what it was like to go out on stage because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: if you remember, right for for Rachel's season, Dean was
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: one of those original guys that went out on stage
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: during after the final rows and introduced himself to her. Um,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And I asked him what it was like, and it was,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it literally happens like this. The producers, you know, have
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: already chose you to be on the season. Um, You're
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: you're kind of in waiting to to enter into the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: mansion or step out the limone introduce yourself. And they
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: call you up and they say, hey, tonight, the Bachelorette
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: is gonna be at a live show. We want you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to introduce yourself to her. You know, we're gonna come
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: pick you up in a car, get your stud on,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: let's go. And and so we have to give these
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: guys some grace last night. But what it did show
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is there's a couple of guys there that, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I did think Becca was interested, or at least her
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: friends in said, we saw the reaction of all her
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: friends and then they seem thrilled about a couple of
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: these guys. Um, so throw off at a hot, hot start. Uh.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't question that this whole season from here
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: on out will be one that people will not only watch,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: but they really cheer Rebecca, and we need that invest
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the nation. We need a season that we can really
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: get behind that We want to rise this journey out
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: with somebody from the start to finish. We want to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: laugh at the very beginning of the season when people
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: are doing outrageous and quirky things, and we want to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: cry with them in the middle, when their hearts broken
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and their hearts being pulled in a thousands of directions,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and we want to celebrate with them at the very end,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: when when hopefully a potential engagement happens, or at least
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a love story exists. We need that backination because we
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: haven't had it now for a few months, and I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: think that Becky's season will will definitely definitely bring that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: UM want to stop for a second and read an email,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: UM kind of calling out on somebody that I would
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: now call his friends. UM, And so I want I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: want to approach this and and speak to this email
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: says the emails titled not a fan of Caroline from
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Ash Matt Astley, I Connettie this Ash. It says, it's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: super unfortunate, but y'all had Caroline on. Seems like she's
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: stuck in duck is pain from all it's worth by
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: being the one in the know. You can even hear
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: on Ben's Instagram story tonight, some comment is made and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: someone goes to Caroline, what's going up your followers? Seems
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: like she was disappointed, she got kicked off too soon
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and found a way to get back into the fold
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and got fortunate to be someone in the know. Even
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: listening to this episode, she talked over all other women
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: in the studio just to get more airtime. She even
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: said in regards the breakup footage, I kind of needed this.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: People are in my d N like be more selfish
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and stuff self service reads. The absolute egotistical mindset are
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: is terrible. But he called one thing, Actually, these girls
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: are just finishing their trouts for Best in Paradise. The
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: desperation is palpable from here, glad to ask me and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Ben still still still seem to stay above some of
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: this juvenile, juvenile desperation after being passed their new found
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: fame as well, asked, I did just do back during
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Winter Games. So I can't completely say that I've gotten
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: out of the Bachelor franchise, but I get what you're saying, uh,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And it's it's been said a lot and I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: there's been a few jokes made, is that this You know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it seems like this show is turning into a constant
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: try out to you to be in Bachelor in Paradise
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: or to be the next Batch or of Bachat. But
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: what other options do you have? I mean, honestly, Uh,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: this world kind of stocks you up in it, right. So,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: so if we start at the beginning of each season,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: everybody's on equal playing field. Everybody shows us the mansion
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to date, either the bat or Bachat. Once you get
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: kicked off, Um, you know, you're excited to watch the season.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You're you're anxious to be on television. You're anxious to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: see your story unfold. And so you sit there with
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: your family and your friends are all asking you about it,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and they're getting you hyped about it. You're excited about
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: it before you know it. Uh. And this is this
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: is the balance that everybody has to take. And and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'll speak to this and and my insight into this
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: here in a second. But the balance nobody has to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: take it uh, to not let this become your identity.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, because of the excitement, and because some people
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: get overwhelmed, and and because they're getting so much pressure.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Fronnounced their world. The bachelor or Bachelorrette ends up being
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the only thing you ever talked about, the only thing
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you ever think about, the only thing you really think
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: has given you any type of excitement in life, because
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it's such a new and weird experience that has shown
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you this new side of life, you know. For me,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it was my very first time ever out of l
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: A was on the Bachelorette, So all of a sudden,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I spoke to l A and I stooked a mansion
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and there's cameras, and then when I get kicked off,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: there's there's articles written about me, and my family's asking
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: me about it, and I'm going through not only a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: breakup at the time, but I'm also trying to process
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the fact that now people know me and weird small
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: talents all across the US, and it becomes not only
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: um sobering because you realize how small the world really is,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but also becomes almost eufork in the sense of, Wow,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I've done something that people now recognize, So I get it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: And we've got to give everybody, anybody, even if the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Business of the Deaths does the show, but we have
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to also stand beside them and support them and keep
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: them accountable. Effect that if the Bachelor or Bachelor at
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: is what you're known for, if that's through your identity exists,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and you've made a great mistake that anybody out there
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that has done anything like the Bachelor Bach Threat before
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: let's even break this down to your job, to your score,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: if your identity is in those things, then you need
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to take a step back. You need to realize that
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: those things cannot be idols in your life. And I think, unfortunately,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because of the world and the format and that the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and Best Threat presents to each contestant, it does
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: become uh something that people don't or have a hard
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: time leaving until let's let's go back to the email
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: here and talk about Calin for a second. I got
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to spend some time with Caroline Um over the last
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: few days. She was nothing but great to me. Um.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: She was funny, UM, she was articulate. We we laughed,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we joked, she was open and honestly, she talked very
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: little about the show. Um. What she talked about most
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: was her excitement Rebecca and also her sadness Rebecca going
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: through this breakup. She just talked about her statinus for Ari,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that she she has a heart for our right now
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: because she doesn't want him to feel alone, that she
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't want him to suffer. Um, but she's still up sat.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, her friend got broken up with and so
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of course she's in the right to express that. You know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: if if one of my friends was hurt, I would
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: hope that I would stand up for them and say
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I I don't like what happened. I don't think this
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: is fair. But let's not assume that Caroline is doing
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: this just um for her own self promotion. I think
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that's the first draft. Actually, you know, we we all
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: know that Caroline could potentially um the ambassador in Paradise
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: uh here soon. But it was my understing that she
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't she doesn't even accepted it yet or I don't
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: even know if she's been asked, and so we can all.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to judge, and it's easy to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: expect the worst that each one of these contestants. UM,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: but we can't do it. We got we were fans
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: of the show. Let's not judge these contestants based on
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: a few things they say on a live show. Okay,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: especially somebody like Caroline whose friends with Becca. She came
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: into our podcast, UM, and I appreciate it. I don't
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: actually appreciate it. She came into our podcast to talk
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: about whatever was going on in that world. And I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: know for us, anytime anybody steps into to help us
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: with our podcast, uh, we want them to speak openly,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: we want them to speak comfortably. And that's exactly what
• 32:44
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  Speaker 1: but it's like incredible how you can just talk to
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  Speaker 1: an audience so naturally when they're not in front of you.
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  Speaker 1: In reality, it's amazing. I talked to myself often, so
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it kind of correlates. Really, are you one of the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: guys that talks out loud to himself around the house.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm an only child. Actually, I live alone.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I drive in my car all the time. I talked
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to myself often. I have great conversations. I've actually prept
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for this podcast now for the last few days because
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I walk in my house like, sorry, what the heck
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: were you thinking? That is so funny, it's so cute.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: You're so good, and I think you need to get
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: into the ministry, like you need to do sermons. You
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: really could have your own podcast where you just talk
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: about virtue all day and I would be encouraged to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: be a better person just by listening to you talk
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: to yourself. Oh. Actually, you're the sweetest you always have been.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: It's good to it's good to have you in the studio.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I know today has been a crazy day. You following up,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I started the podcast by letting everybody know that you've
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: done pressed and you've answered a thousand questions about this
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor in the last two episodes, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: so thanks, uh, thanks for coming in, because I know
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you're probably tired, and you're also probably tired of talking
• 37:13
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• 37:15
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• 37:20
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• 37:23
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• 37:25
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• 37:28
  Speaker 1: who the heck are you? We're gonna talk about our
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: dating live, We're gonna talk about love life outside of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the Backtor franchise. Are you gonna be honest about your
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: love life outside. Yeah, I'll be as honest as I
• 37:40
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• 37:41
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• 37:44
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• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you asked Cianne that what you were talking to Seanne about,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like you know how you're going to do her season
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette, And then you politician, you just knew
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: how to swerve around and not answer that question directly.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But everybody, maybe one day I'll open up in honesty.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: But hey, thanks for stopping in. I'm gonna hand this
• 38:11
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• 38:14
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• 38:16
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• 38:18
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• 38:21
  Speaker 1: because Generous is blowing up after last night's episode of
• 38:25
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• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Now Katie Kerk has retweeted about Generous and Katie kerrit
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: fifty bags of Generous coffee today. Um, Holy freaking is
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that's huge. I'm freaking out, and so now I have
• 38:46
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• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and still some generous coffee or at it. So I apologize. Actually,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: but it's now your times not only talked to our
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: good buddy Jason mesnick Um, but also yourself for a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: little bit. You do that. Yeah, maybe I'm gonna try.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I wrote notes and I think it's gonna take me
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: about thirty seconds. All right, sounds good. Hey everybody there,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: all of our listeners again email actually hurt me dot com. Actually,
• 39:12
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• 39:15
  Speaker 1: best people I know. And we'll talk to him. Thanks,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: love you bye. All right, So we have a couple
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of minutes before Jason's on the phone. So because I'm
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: sure you guys are all dying to know when I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: felt about last night, I will let you in on this. Um.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody's villainizing Ri. I'm tired of villainizing Ari. He made
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, but we can't harp on it forever.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: This maybe exactly what Ben had said before I walked
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: into the studio. So I'm sorry if it is. Um,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny because I think people expect that
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor love stories need to be the most idealized
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: love stories, but they are. They can be as messed
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: up as our own real life love stories. Um. Nothing
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: goes smoothly there. Hearts are always broken. Um. As Jamie
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Sullivan once said, if there wasn't suffering, would there be
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: any compassion? And I feel like heartbreak makes us stronger.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: It gets us to know ourselves better and betters ourselves
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: for our future relationships down the line. So, you know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: are messed up and his love story is not traditional,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but let's like let them live because they seem really
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: really happy. And yeah, it wasn't our chick flick. We
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: didn't get that this season. Unfortunately, maybe Becca will deliver
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: something that makes our hearts pound in in like giddiness.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But let's just leave him alone because it's just love
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: isn't always pretty. But we'll just see what happens. We'll
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just see what happens. And I think that's what they want.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: All they're asking for is like give him a chance.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And I can't wait to talk to to Mesnic because
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that's a beautiful role model for them to have eight
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: years of marriage to kids. Do we think Mesnic handled
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it better or worse? Um? I never saw mesnic season.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was the first season. That was
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the last season I didn't watch. So I started watching
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Ali's season right after his so O, no, no, that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: was Jake. Oh wait, no, that was what's his name,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the pilot? Jake? Yeah. So I started watching a year
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and a half after, after the shocking thing, and I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: rewatched it recently. About Mesnic is that he I think
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Melissa had some clue that he was going to end
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: things with her on the after the final Rose, but
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think Molly had any idea that he was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: doing that and that he was going to say I
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: want another chance. Okay, so you're saying the difference is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that Molly didn't. Oh yeah, So the difference is that,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's equally kind of terrible. No, it's not.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: It's not because because Mesnic didn't feel anything for Melissa anymore,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and he was willing to end that relationship even if
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he thought that Molly wasn't going to be down. Correct,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I would say that that is a fair statement. You
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: could ask him about that, because he hadn't like pursued Molly,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: he really didn't know if she was going to say
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: yes or no, and the genuine sort of like shock
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: on her face of I'm on camera. I don't know
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: what to do here. I've wanted this to happen because
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I love this dude, but what is happening? Like it
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: was very different than this in the same sort of situation,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but in the same way. Both women are going to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: have to deal with their potential husbands um having picked
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: another woman over them at some point in their lives.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: But everybody has to deal with that really in life.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: That's true except for some times, but usually you don't
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: know the parts who've never dated anyone else. You've probably
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: got a past, and so do they that's probably probably
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: didn't break up with you on camera and they weren't
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: dating you at the same time. Although I'm sure there's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: people out there who are dating two people at the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: same time. They go at one and then they're like,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, and then they switched. I bet you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I bet you There are plenty of real life people.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So that's something you guys should think about. And also
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: just like think about all the marriages that come from
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: friendships and it's like that person was in your life
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: for so long, but you're probably dating people before you
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: realize that that was your person. So it's kind of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the same. I don't know, it's kind of the same thing,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: but it kind of every sort of He really kind
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of blew it. At the same time, I think he
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: seemed really nice yesterday. I have no problem with him whatsoever.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's cool because if you really break it down,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: he was engaged, he was about to get engaged to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: one of them. It could have gone either way. Had
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he just picked Lauren and been on his merry way,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: we'd all be bored and fine. Yeah, so it's like, so,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: thank sorry for giving you a little excitement over the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: past two days. Well we got where we were going
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to go anyway. Yeah. Um, interesting questions I just came
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: about with. Have no idea. I wonder if, like during
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that final two if he would have said, Rebecca, would
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you rather be the bachelorette or would you rather me
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: propose to you that I'd rather you propose to me.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, I don't know that, I'm sure.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It takes me a lot longer to
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: get over things. Years in fact, so for her to
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: sort of snap back so quick, it takes me forever
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to But I will say I can I never really
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: get over something until the next next guy. Absolutely, I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: don't think I ever get over a guy until I
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: find a new one. I mean, you do intend that
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you can live life, but you don't kind of ready, yeah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: but you still are daydreaming about the last guy, or
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: you don't fully close the book. Or you also don't
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: realize how terrible they were, because I didn't realize how
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: terrible someone was that I was dating until I dated
• 44:50
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• 44:56
  Speaker 1: they do want to get married on TV if the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: opportunity is there, uh um, and if you know that
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: sort of lots. I don't think that they're going to
• 45:05
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• 45:08
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• 45:11
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• 45:13
  Speaker 1: care about Ari and Lauren getting married on TV. What
• 45:15
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• 45:21
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  Speaker 1: for them there. That's awesome, all right. Well, it sounds
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: like Jason Mesnick, the predecessor to Ari, is now on
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the line. Jason, what's going on? Jason? Um, I met
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you briefly at Jaden Tanner's wedding. Didn't watch your season,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: So pardon me if I'm a little uneducated Amy will
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: fill in my gaps. Um. I was trying to sort
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: of explain the difference in the way you handled it
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and in the way he handled it. How do you
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: sort of sum that up? Well, we all know that
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Jason is very emotional. There hence the other mesnic. You
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you have coined two things now in the franchise. There's
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the mesnic you crying over the balcony, and now there's
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the mesnic, which is the switchero. Yeah. Well hopefully that's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the r Now you can take that, would you you
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: would rather? Of course the sobbing. Yeah, it's fine. Everyone
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: loves a man in touching somebody, you know, feel terrible
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: on National TV. Yeah alright, so talk about how you
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: feel like you handled the situation differently. Uh, you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't know if if if I
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: think I really did, because when I think about what
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: happened one yeah, and I read something already did this
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: movie said this morning is that he was trying to
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: give um back at the opportunity to be the bachelorette.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And that doesn't just come from his mind. And what
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I mean by that is they said the same thing
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to me. So I called the producers. You know, this
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: is like fifty years ago, and I did it. Um.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: So I called the producer and I said, hey, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so Melissa and I aren't working out, Can I, you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: have a shot with Molly because I'm just really curious?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And they said, okay, so yes, but we've asked Mollie
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to be the Bachelorette. So there's two conditions. One you
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: need to do this on TV because otherwise Molly is
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: going to go forward and be the bachelorette. And two,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: we need Melissa, so the other girl, to be the Bachelorette,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and we need her to be emotional, so the audience
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: falls in love with her and everybody's part out to her.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: So when I think about you know, you know, I
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: think the difference is how the producers and ABC decided
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: to air it. Right, So mine was like I think
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: they were they had learned a little bit, but they
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: also wanted everybody to feel Rebecca, so they could put
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: her on you know, a pedestal, but like the place
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: she in some sense they wanted her. So the audience
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: falls in love with her, and they come back next
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: season even stronger than and before as a viewership. Right,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and that's what they were trying to do with Melissa too,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: But you know, Molista already had some debts in her life.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: So if you didn't want to do it, I don't like,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't know how different it is.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the appearance is different, and maybe
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the words conveyed are different. Were you not I felt
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: like you ended with Melissa before you sort of told Molly,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: whereas I feel like he was dabbling with Lauren feeling
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: it out. It was probably a piece of that, Like
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Melissa and I both had known that it was over,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: and the TV, yeah, I mean we had talked. We
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: had talked about that, but I mean the way that
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: it was portrayed. I think the only difference. I mean,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: viewers might see it differently, um if they remember who
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I am, But I mean I think the view is like, hey,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: we did ours on set, a close set because it
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: hadn't happened before, and this one was, you know, in
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: wherever house that they were flown into and their their
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: getaway weekend. So what you were saying about us needing
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to fall in love with Becca is something that I've
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: been kind of spewing out all week long. That's in
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: my opinion, why they showed the entire break up the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: way they did. I want to know why you and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: apparently Alrea went to production with this dilemma that you
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: were having. You're like, this isn't gonna last. What do
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you guys suggest me do? And I just feel like
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes production would be the last person I'd go to
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: because the last people I go to, because sometimes I
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: would wonder if they were putting their interest before mine.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: So I think going back to it, and like I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: was actually writing the moat on the plane, just kind
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: of think about, you know how my experience it was
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: different or similar to already. And I mean like when
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I think about my experience there there are two times
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: that I knew not to go to production and not
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: talk talk about it with anybody, and it was that
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: was one at the two times. But you know and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: like it actually come with it. But until you go
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: through and be like the bats are bachlor at. They
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: are asking you for help, right, They're asking you to
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: go on dates with people that you don't want to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: go on dates with. They're asking you to hold hands
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of people you want to go on cold hands with,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: because realistically, if you walk literally just ask you this.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: If you walk into a bar and there are five
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: guys in that bar, how many do you think you
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: would be you would be in you could be in
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a relationship with honestly to at best zero, at very
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: very best, but most likely zero. Okay, so somewhere between
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: zero and two. So I would say the same thing
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: with anybody who's the Bachelor and bachlor at it would
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: be between zero and I give it three. There's somewhere
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: between zero and three. So within the first week, right
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: when you're put in this position, within the first week,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you know you're top two or three. Yeah, and the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: rest is just, hey, you know, we've got to make
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a TV show. And realistically, ABC is paying the productive
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: producers two million dollars every week to make a show,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and so you can't do that. There's no way you
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: can do that. And so the producers are and they
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: have to be. Sometimes they're pretending to be your friends.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they are your friends. But the one thing they're
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: doing is trying to build trust. And so when you
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: go through that whole experience, you're not supposed to. They
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: tell you not to talk to anybody like you sign
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: this giant contract. There's the heck out of you, right,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And the bottom line is you I feel like the
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: only people you can talk to are the producers because
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: they're calling you there. They're pretending to try to check
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: in with you throughout this whole experience after the finished filming.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: So in the real world, you're right, you shouldn't call
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the producers, But in this bubble world, there are the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: only people that you've ever talked to about all this stuff.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So they're the only people that you feel understand. What's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: so funny is that here I am I questioning this
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: for you, But then when I think about my own
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: relationships that started out on the show but now have
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: developed off the show throughout the past two years to
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: three years, I always go to them. They're always the
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: ones that I feel like ending to the most. I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody else until I mean, you probably understand it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Just like I remember as a cast member on the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Name Forever going the Bachelorette, I remember staying up tamperly
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: every single night going, Okay, what do you guy with
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the producer? What are you guys trying to do? What
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: are you guys trying to get us to stay? Like?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: And they would kind of dig in with me saying, hey,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: what do you know about this guy? This guy have
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: a girlfriend back at home. So everybody's kind of digging
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: in with each other. But at the end of the day,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: their job is to befriend you. Who was your girl?
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I can't even remember who was the bachelorette when you
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: were on it. Um, Marilyn Monroe, the AA PAPIs oh
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: so funny. Who's a total twist to me because she
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: married a bachelor guy's brother. Oh yeah, weird, But that's
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody really like and I'm
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: not going to make excuses Ferri and I, but like
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: until you're in there, and like everybody, I mean, everybody
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: is gonna a producer is gonna want this to happen,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: right because everybody's talking about it every news news outlet.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: So they want the conflicted guy or girl to be
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: confused and do this on TV. It's great for the show,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: right of course, by by a hundred times it is
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: great for the show. Well, so the problem is we
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: trust them too much. We do trust them, but they
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: are they do become our best friends, and in my case,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: they've continued to be my best friends off camera. As well.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want to like, I don't want to like say, oh,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: why would you get a productions because they have the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: bad intentions of mine. Um, I am very trusting, but
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I've found in my own personal experiences that well, you
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: may have a bad episode or a bad seen or two,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: because they do truly want to get you the best
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: in the long run with every decision that you make
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: with them. Yeah maybe, I mean, I know, like talking
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: to him just even last night, like I was texting
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: with them before I went on and after I got off,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: and they're like, trust me, we got this handle, like
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: we're working on it. We wanted to be the best.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: We want everybody to be happy. And I think in
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: some ways, you know, I think I thought that I
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: wish already didn't propose, but really, yeah tell us, tell us, well,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I think at some point, like he's already done enough
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and like you could do that like away, right, Like
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that was just my opinion. Everybody else could think whatever
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: they want. I mean I would have just sad like
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: after with Molly and I like, you know, we wanted
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: to take We took it almost a year before we
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: got engaged, which is you know, which is not a
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: long time and for some people, but for us it
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: felt like it did Neil Lane still give you a ring? No?
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Well no, not so no when I proposed, but five
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: year or five year anniversary? He helped us out. Yeah,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this is I had an interesting tidbit here. Um, yesterday
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: they taped Jimmy Kimmel before they taped after the final rose,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: and Lauren was wearing her engagement ring, so it was
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: she he basically had already told her what you are
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you sure? Because he was leaving, Um was a fake engagement.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: He was going straight to Jimmy Kimmel after we filmed.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Oh really, are you sure? It would be hard for
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: an actress too? I thought they. I don't know. Maybe
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you're right, jeez, he I mean, he had to out
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of their last night pretty quick be going to Jimmy Kimmel. Okay, okay,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm totally wrong. I don't want to like start
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: something the elephant in the room. And I'm sure Jason
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you've thought about this a thousand, million, bi jillion times,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: But why didn't you just propose to Molly on the finale? Well?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I mean that so I was not going to pick Molly,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I know, but why because you picked her, but you did,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: but really and you're like, inner, sorry you did, are you?
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: And I talked about this so that the similarities between
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Lauren and Molly are that when when we filmed, when
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I filmed with Molly and already, kind of the same
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: thing with Lauren is they were really there. Weren't people
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: that were super comfortable, comfortable on camera that couldn't open
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: up just and it's it's some of it's on camera stuff,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: but it's also just a personality. You know. You can't
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: expect everybody to be super comfortable on camera. They can't
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: expect everybody to be gushing about how much they care
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: about somebody. Because I remember on one of my days
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of Molly, you know, nine years ago now, I remember
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: it was the one thing we walked away, we were
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: on our exotic stuff and I was like, I don't
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: even know if she likes me, and the producers would
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you know, don't worry, you know she
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: really does, and and they would go to Molly and say, hey, Molly,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: you've got to open up more, because she was not
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: sure of it, um that you like him even and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the truth was she was just having she just one
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: she wasn't sure she wanted to get engaged with two.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: She was the type of person that had trouble opening up.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And I think Lauren's the same way. I mean, I
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: was writing this down, you know, on the plane, and like,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Melissa was the type of person on my
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: season that I always thought I would marry, and then
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: after two months of you know, dating her, it just
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't the right fit for either of us. That's what
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know more about. Maybe, like because because
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: your experience could be a reflection of ours, when did
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you start feeling like, oh, wow, this is probably not
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: my wife once you exited the Bachelor bubble? Um? I
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: mean because we I couldn't tell you. I mean, it's
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: going to go back. It's nine years ago, more than
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: nine years ago. So he dated I think, you know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: six seven, eight weeks afterwards, and we would do those
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, getaways, and I think, you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: I think part of it is that, like I like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I just after that whole experience, I didn't love her,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: and um after you know, and I also take a
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: step back as well as I think when you look
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: at that experience, you're probably you've probably spent a total
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: of forty hours, but the person you end up proposing too,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: So that's really you know, in the real world, that's like,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I really want to get to know you better. That's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: pretty incredible with already hours. How many married couples there
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: actually are? Yeah, well, I mean that's it works for stuff,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: like in the real world, Like it works for some people,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I love it first night, and for some
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: people it doesn't. I do think it's still very fascinating.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: There hasn't been one divorce that is super like what
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: there aren't How many marriages are there? I can write
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: it down, but I think it's seven seven marriages. Yeah,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I like to count Sean Sean and Caitlin is married too.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I think there's like seven. Yeah, I mean it's interesting
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: any time. Yeah, people do get married a long time.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I mean for a long time it was just tripped
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: to and then we were in our own way. Second,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and that was after there was sent you one after
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: up until my season, which was one out of you
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: know whatever, fifteen or sixteen. There's two things that are
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: really interesting about you, Jason. One is that essentially it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: did work because you did meet your wife on this
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: crazy Bananas show. Is it annoying when people say that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Sean is the only quote successful bachelor. No, I don't
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: care if it. No, I mean right he did, because
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's just in the bubble. In the bubble,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like it messed with your brain. Oh yeah,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the whole thing is like I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and I've said this like a billion times
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: that like I never at the end of my season,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't pick Molly, but I didn't want to propose
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: to either of them, and why did you exactly? So,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I mean I was writing this down, and like I've
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: said this a million times. I I had called her parents,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: who never Melissa's parents, who never wanted to be on
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the show, and I called him up. This is maybe
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's a day or two before proposal, and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I just said, hey, like I've never got to meet
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you guys. You know, I'm a single dad, and I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm going to pick your her, but I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to. I can't propoch to her. And we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: were all on the same page and they're like, okay,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I get it. I respected, and we left it at that.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: So I go back to my room and literally a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: few hours later, one of the UH producers comes into
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: the UH to my room and says, hey, like, listen,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of stress. I called Melissa's parents
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: back and we told them that your ons are distress.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Like you want to propose And I was like, what, like,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: but you can't do that? But then slowly over um over,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if it's a day or
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: two days. You know, everybody comes through and says, don't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: you don't you want to give her this moment? She's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the most amazing girl you ever met. You you will marry.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's a hundred different ways that a hundred
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: different people who work on the show come through. And
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: at the end of it, you know, dumb guys like, oh,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I must be an idiot, all right, America is going
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: to hate you if you don't. Yeah, it's it's there's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different things, and our owners just like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: people like people, producers owners, the owner of the show
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: basically says, that's not the way this works, right. Isn't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: that funny that people would rather see a purpose and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: get engaged and then the couple breakup than just them saying, hey,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: let's date. In real life, and then eventually end up
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: together yes to no. I mean, I like the breakup
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: is a news story, the proposals, the TV action, the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: millions of people are watching, so they just want to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: They want to capture the audience of people who are
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: like I get it, like I've I've been through it
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: enough times. So for me, I like, that was the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: biggest thing in my gut. I knew I should never
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: propose to either of them, and I did, and that's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: what got me. I think he was trying to say
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: that same thing. It was like, I shouldn't have proposed
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: to you. I don't know if he's saying he should
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: propose to Lauren, but like, realistically, some people aren't cut
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: out to propose to somebody after two months, and I was,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: and I was one of them. This is so informative.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: I think people are going to be really happy with
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: all this knowledge from you. I wonder how many other
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: bachelors have felt forced into proposing when they didn't feel
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: like right. And I'd rather I'd rather watch Ari season
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and Jason season because as a viewer, if I'm putting
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: real human feelings aside, Jason's after the Final Rose was
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: one of the best things I've ever seen. I mean,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I've rewatched it on YouTube. The only thing that is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: better is Vienna and Jake Pavelta's breakup. Talk about this
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: all the time as the juiciest moment in a bad
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: mood or feeling bad about yourself, simply YouTube that and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: you will is so good. But yours was pretty juicy
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: because Molly's sort of shock is one of the greatest
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: things I've ever seen. Like she just did not know
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: what to do with the information you were giving. What
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: made you say I want to give Molly another chance
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: because you seem like a little bit unsure of her
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: during in the Bachelor bubble, So what was like, I'm
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: going to go back and try that girl again. So okay,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: So that's Molista, Like I could never say in my
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: entire life anything bad about it. She was sweet, she
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: was carrying, she was beautiful, she was good with my son.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: You know, was just for a day where you met him.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: So there's all these good things. But then when we
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: got off camera, there was not the just the chemistry
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: that you want in a marriage, right So with so
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: with Molly, there was just curiosity, and I knew that
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: there was nobody else in the show that I was
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: interested in dating, but Molly was the only one. So
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: when I talked to the producers, they said, okay, yes,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: but she's going to be the bat Florette unless you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: do something now. So the only I mean the really realistically,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the only reason that all that happened was she would
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: have started filming a week later, and it would have
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: been I would not have ever had that opportunity would
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: started filming the bats Florette. So the reason why I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: was so condensed like that, I was like, Okay, if
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, I've got to do it when
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: they say the cameras are ready. Otherwise, you know, they
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: kind of hold your I don't know how real it is,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: your contract over your head, which is a massive you know,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I know you worked with Brian Seacraft, like I don't
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: have that kind of money. You know, I live in
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: a in a in a rig like I was living
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: in a tiny little rambler trying to make me to
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: pay the mortgage for my son. And no, I get it.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: These are big life things that you kind of have
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: to factor in, even though the audience doesn't know. It's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: just until you being on the bat, being a cast member.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: One of the is easy. I mean you go like
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: either a become friends with a lot of girls with
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: guys and you go on date sometimes you hang out
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: with people, you drink, you get free meals, get to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: travel a little bit. It's like there's no worries when
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: you become the bats or bats are at They ask
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: you as it goes along to be part of the production,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: and that means being nice to people on dates, being
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: asking yourself and getting forced into doing things that you
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: don't want to do because it's the TV show. Is
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: it possible to stand up to every producer and say no,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, that's the wrong thing
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: to do. It possible to do that retrospectively, but when
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you're there, you don't know that you know, Like for example,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I know Molly, Molly tells the story all the time.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Like one of the days she went on with me,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: they wanted her to um so it was the talent competition.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: They said, you need to tell Jason your secret talent
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: is kidding and she's like, that is the dumbest thing
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. I'm not secret because it's not it's
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: not true. That's stupid, right, And they said that's fine.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: If you don't do that, then he's not going to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: pick you and we're gonna send you. He's gonna send
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: you off. Is that true? Who knows, But when you're
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: on the show, you believe that story. That's pretty charge.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I've never heard anything said like that before. What's that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I've never heard somebody's ever say that. They just do
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit of mind melting a little mind maybe
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: not so like verbal. I've got a gazillion story, and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like in some sense, I get it, like
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: they're making a TV show, right right, Like everybody was
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: so upset that the cameras were there for the breakup,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: But if you remove feelings and your production, of course
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have cameras. They're like, that was the greatest
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. So nobody is going to say no, no,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: we shouldn't bring cameras, Like, of course we should bring cameras.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And a million, million, million, million, million, million million people
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: watched it, and if you didn't, if they didn't do it,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: would they would be like, well, what happened? How come?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Like what like are you serious? Like now together, Lauren? Whatever?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: What happened? Right? You're fired? If you have the camera already.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Did say that he did it because he knew he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: was going to have to answer those questions eventually, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: his might as well just have it on the record
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: for everyone. I agree in some respect, but I think
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Ari is also deep under contract with them, right, I'm yeah,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: like I'm like a contract clearly. Yeah, if they didn't
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: even have right, they didn't have paperback, then yeah, clearly.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Everything you're saying is making me very nervous. It's fine
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: because they still like you, so you're fine. Well, I mean,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: all this stuff has been said before. I think people
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: might listen now more just because um, people are asking
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: me questions again. But I'm not like, I'm not saying
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: anything that I've never said before. I do think what's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: interesting that you're saying that I'd love to know if
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you asked Ari, because people always say it is easy
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: being one of the and really a lot of work
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: to be the lead, as they call it, no idea.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I think Ari went into it thinking this is the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: greatest thing that ever happened to me, and if you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: asked him now is probably like, not the greatest thing
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: that ever happened. I remember you, for I did the Bachelor.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to a couple of guys that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: had done it. And I talked to a couple of
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: guys and they both did the same thing. They said,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: we're going to tell you not to do it, but
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: you're going to do it every anyway, Who did you? Ask?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: And I talked to Brad Womack, who did it again?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: After you? After telling you that, Yeah, he goes and
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: does it again. And who was the other one? And
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: who's the other guy right before me? The British there's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: a British guy. Oh, like one of those that nobody watched. Yeah,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I mean grand remember that. I don't. I don't know this, Okay, Yeah,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: that's it was. And I said the same thing like
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Jake Volco called me and I said, listen, I tell
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: you not to do it. I remember talking to Jillian
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: and Ali, like I talked to all the people before
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: they do it, and I said, I said the same thing.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: It's so hard. I said the same thing to Becca
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: last night. I'm like, it's so hard and you'll get it,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: like all you'll get it in three months? How hard
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: it really is? Right? Oh my gosh, I don't know.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could ever say, of course I'd
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: want to be the bachelor if they were to ask
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: me and now a single But if you were to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: be like, but if you really were to lay it
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: out like this, Hey, would you like to go on
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: a date with somebody for every day for the next
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: two months, I'd be like, oh my god, that sounds
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: like hell. I wouldn't do it. If you offered me
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: a hundred million way, I would literally have to be
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: hospitalized in in some form of special place because I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: could not mentally handle it. Think about like, not only
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: are you going on dates every single day for two months,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: but also when you're not on a date or in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: between dates, you're talking about your feelings and you're constantly talking, talking, talking,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Please give me a couch and some take out so
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: that I can just vege out at we take your
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: phone away come out. That's still I still love that
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: very It was very different when I did it, because
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I think iPhones could just come out. It
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: was like, can I take your BlackBerry please? Yeah? That
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: like it just crawls when you try to get on
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: the internet. Yeah, yeah, exactly. M I have one more
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: question before we actually have to One is an unanswered question.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Since from before you said that Melissa already had a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: guy and that's why she wasn't going to be the bachelorette.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: So she had a guy from before the show years,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: she met him, she knew him, she knew him beforehand,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: they ate him beforehand. Okay, a lot of the girls
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I find to the guy from before. Yeah, I know that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And then they married. Yeah I didn't know. It's fine,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know any of that, but it was
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: the right obviously, the right thing for her to do.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And then the second question is, Um, did already ever
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: reach out to you, like personally because the situations are
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: so similar, or was it like productions would have, like
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I I had found out about it. I don't know.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: It was sometime in January, um, and I remember reaching
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: out to him and like not hearing back for a
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: little while and finally try to be like I'll get
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: a hold, and you never did. You know. What's funny
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: is that I think part of that is because the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: production is thing, if Jason reaches out to you, don't
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: talk right because we're gonna have a conversation with them
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: later on camera. Okay, Okay, So what I was gonna say.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because back back in your day, you
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: couldn't slide into her d M S and do it privately.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: You would have to find her number, and production would
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: never give you her number. Yeah. Really, you're the crap
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: out of you. Yeah, there's no way to secretly. Yeah
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: there was. I mean I've joked around about this, Like
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: back then Twitter it just started. It was using Twitter,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: and my Space was bigger than Facebook, Like right, what
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: happened to you know? Facebook was just this kind of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: new thing. You know, it's been around a couple of years,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: but my Space was king back then. That's really funny.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Jason, this is so informative, very interesting. Yes,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna love this well. And you're like, you know,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, hey, give Aria a break.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: You know. I think people are starting to sort of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: like give this a break. I mean, you guys, I
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: would like, over and over again, he shouldn't have feel
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: like he should have figured out a way to not film,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: and I would have told him that, but he would
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: have listened to producers anyway, the audio would it would
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: have been confused. And I would say, for somebody, if
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: he's that confused, he's a. He's an emotional guy. Maybe
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: he didn't show his emotions like that as much as
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: people would have liked. But it takes a lot of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: balls to go and know that you're gonna get crushed
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: like he is and still go through with it. He's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: handled it pretty well, and I've been texted him today.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: He seems good. Yeah. When I asked him about three
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: weeks ago at woman til all ago, are you dreading
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: after the final rows? Are you looking forward to it?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm honestly looking forward to it so
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: I can just breathe fresh air after afterward. All right, Jason,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I love you. You're great. Thank you so much. You're welcome.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Someone pulls a mesnic again, Yeah, tell him to go
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: to UH. If they need to buy a house in Seattle,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: call me. Oh, we will tell him right now. Oh yeah, Hey,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: anybody looking to buy a house, tell a house in Seattle.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I'm your guy. I worked my butt off, even pressure
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: wash myself. I have houses where Molly Molly is taking pictures.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I took them by and I'm pressure washed driveway. I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: built a headboard for somebody's uh bed before staking their house.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, who servant Jason Mesnick. Yeah, Jason Mesnick,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick Group dot Com. All right, well, thanks Jason,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Bye. Al right, guys, Well
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: after this Bachelor for Neale week, I need some sleep
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like I've never had sleep before. I'm going to hibernate
• 1:15:33
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• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: and right now. I do do most of your work
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: from your sep number work, so I take conference calls
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: on my laptop. I do emails all day long. People
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: think I'm working in an office and I'm working in
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: my sleep and see I'm a couch I'm a couch worker.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: But if I you know, but I shouldn't move over
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: to the bedroom. So here's a little thing I will say.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: When I used to work at a desk, I got
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: horrible back aches, and now that I work from my
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: sleep Number bed, I don't get them anymore because it's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: like it's comfortable and sit up and you're on your
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: laptop and I don't have the same back aches headaches
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: that I used to get. That so it's worth it. Okay,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: all right, Well you guys you heard from Ami. You know,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: all right, I want to talk talk about some emails, UM,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: do a couple of ones that are off topic of
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, because, UM, I need a break. I'm gonna
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: be honest, I need a break. I'm losing it. If
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: you guys haven't haven't been able to tell I don't
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: feel like I've been at my finest game today that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I think. It's just like a little bit of overkiller
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, we had a lot of Bachelor, a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: lot of Winter Games. Now we're going to have some
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: fun until I know that's what we get to talk about,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: like relationships, and that makes me happy. This I love
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: keep everybody informed on what all the Bachelor people are doing. Yeah, okay,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: so I love this email. UM. The topic is how
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: do you know they're the one? This is from Kelly, Hi, Ashley,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: and Ben. I am reeling from the finale and I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: can't wait for after the final Rose. It's a couple
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: of days old. I wanted to comment on the question
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: of how do you know when you're with the right person.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: I am someone who has been in a successful relationship
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: for the past three years of my life, and I
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: am constantly mulling over this question. Long story short, you
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: know when you're with the right person if they bring
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: out the parts of you that you want to emphasize
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: in yourself. I genuine believe that a human can love
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: more than one person. We open our hearts to endless friends,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: and I believe it is possible to open your heart
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: to loving more than one person. Different soulmates bring out
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: different parts of yourself, and to choose to be with
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: a person is to choose to be with the part
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: of yourself that you like to be with the very most,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: whether that is your fund self, your spiritual self, or
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: a part of your personality you cannot compensate for, and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: other friendships and relationships such as sexual and romantic selves.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: So I don't think the question is if you're choosing
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: the person that you love the most, but are you
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: choosing the person who makes you love yourself the most? Wow?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: That is a good point. I love that, hoping you
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: guys are interested in my theory. I love the almost podcasts.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I know Ashley, you with Kevin make me cry like
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: it was a bachelor proposal. Wishing you the best. That's
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: so sweet. Thank you, Kelly. Yeah, she makes really good points.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: What do you think, um, I think that's actually incredible.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: That makes me wonder if she believes in monogamy though,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I mean she's obviously in a relationship. But okay, so yes,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: you choose to be with the person who brings out
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: that quality that you like the very most, like it's
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: your most important I suppose the thing I've been learning
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: lately is that, Look, it's still hard work, and you
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: still have to sort of work on yourself. But I
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: think when you're really in love, you want to I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: want to be a better person for my person. Does
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: that make sense? Totally makes anything? Again? Like I said
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: with the sacrifices the other day, it's not work. It's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: something I want to do because it makes me happy
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and them happy. I don't know. I think the greatest
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever been told is you make me happy.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I could just die happy from that. It was like,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: that is just life changing. Um, I personally like it
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: when my fun self and my funny self comes out
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and like my flirty, bantery self. So if I'm with
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: somebody who I'm not laughing with a lot, which this
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: is kind of like a new it's kind of like
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: something new. Like if you had asked me a couple
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: of years ago, I wouldn't say, like a guy who
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: makes me laugh, which is so weird because I think
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: all girls say that. But I was like, oh no,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna say it's like a decent sense of
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: human but like, no, I need to have like that flirty,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: witty banter. Yeah, it makes me feel more like alive
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: and it makes me feel really connected. I think that
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: is a great You want something that makes you feel alive,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: even if it's sometimes you're crying, or sometimes you're happy,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: or sometimes you're passionate, whatever you feel. Feelings. Yeah, well,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, Kelly, I don't think you really have a question.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: I think we love your theory and it's something that
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep in on the back of my
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: mind always. Thank you m hm. Thinking of another man
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: from anonymous Bett and Ashley, I believe when you know
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: you found the one, you definitely just know. You feel
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: in your soul, you crave to be around them and
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: you can't get your mind off of them. With that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: being said, I'm in a very serious relationship. We've been
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: together for five years and I love him to death,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: but recently there's someone else that has stopped my world completely.
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  Speaker 1: Get this achy, lovely feeling that I haven't before. Literally
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  Speaker 1: I can't get him off my mind, and I just
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: have this feeling that there's something more, or there could
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: be something more if I wasn't a relationship with someone else.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to end my relationship for him, and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I would never cheat on my significant other. But I
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: still can't help but think about this guy all the time.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I think about all the things that could happen between
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  Speaker 1: us if my relationship ever ended, and just being ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: or doing the whole grass is greener on the other
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  Speaker 1: side thing. Or could I actually have strong, real feelings
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: for two people? Thinks? Okay, well, going off of what
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  Speaker 1: Kelly said before, I think you can definitely have strong
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: feelings for both people. And if Ben were here, he
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: would obviously say the same thing. He was in love
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: with two girls, maybe in different ways, but you know,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: similar enough when he was a bachelor. What do what
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  Speaker 1: do you do? I know this. I saw this email
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: and was like, I don't know how to I mean,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is. This is horrible,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna be But I'm gonna tell you
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: what I would probably do. I think you'd have to
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: experiment a little bit with this guy. Not physically and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: not deeply emotionally, but I think you need to hang
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  Speaker 1: out with him enough to really know whether this is
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: something that your mind is just making up or if
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: this is something that could really be there. It's just yeah,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: you have to invest a little time. Agree with Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: although I feel like we might get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: I think we might get a lot of hate. Two.
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  Speaker 1: But then, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: end your relationship for a guy that you just like
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: got a little buzz crossover, which I would assume if
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: you're with somebody for five years and you're not married,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: that if you if somebody else piques your interest, I
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: think you could probably develop a crush while still really
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: wanting to be with the person that you're in the relationship.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: This is a big this is a complicated one and
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I almost feel like we should put you on the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: mike since you're the married guy in this house. Okay, Easton,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: you're married. You've been with your wife for how long?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: I've been with her for five years? Five years? Perfect
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  Speaker 1: have you ever developed any sort of interest or curiosity
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: in somebody else? Okay, So, then going back to anonymous,
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  Speaker 1: I also I've never been in a relationship as serious
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: as five years. But I do tend to like to
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  Speaker 1: think that if I was with the person that I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: want to spend the rest of my life with and
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: my soul mate, that I wouldn't develop that crush. That
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: is a concern. Yeah, because I think that too. This
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: whole email is very concerning. I feel like we might
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: want to address it when we're when we do our
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: next show like a therapist. Yeah, Anonymous, Um, I'd love
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: to know if you would like to come on and
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: describe the situation. Save this email because I want to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: go back to it next time. I think this is
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: a question that a lot of people have and encounter
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: in their life, and I think, yeah, we should dive
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit deeper, especially when we have because I
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: hate to say this, Oh God, I hate to say this,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: So Anonymous, don't listen to this everybody else because there
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: might be a reason that, how do I say this,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: she may not be in the perfect relationship if she's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: having these someone else. Like in an ideal world, I
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: would like to think that when I'm with the person
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be with, I would never crush on
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: anyone else. Okay, but I don't really know yet because
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I think someone's cute or like they give you like
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: a little flutter, but but not to this. This is
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: really more Yeah, all right, one last email and I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: love the headline of this. Do women do their own makeup?
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: This is from Annie in California. She goes, how do
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: all the women look so flawless on the show? Do
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: they do their own makeup? And how do all the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: women know how to do their makeup so well? What
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: brands are they using? All right? So yeah, um, everybody
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: asked this question. I think we've addressed it before. About clothing,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: at least your clothes are all on you that first season.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Once you do Paradise, there's lots of clothing brands that
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: want to send you clothing. So in my past I've
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: had purchase clothes in Paradise and um given clothes. But makeup, Yeah,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: makeup is all on us. I I did it. I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: love doing my own makeup for camera. I feel like
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: I know my face best and it just seems like
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: the other girls in the house really know how to
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: do it too. I don't know what to tell you, um,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: but we do it, and UM my favorite brands if
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: you want to if you want my favorite brands I
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: like I like Mabelin, I like Becca, I like Tar
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: and I love cat Bondie for things like powdery substances
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: like eyeshadows and um, you know um powder foundation because
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: it has really really good strong pegment. Can I say
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: something crazy because I don't wear very much makeup? But
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: do you want to know what has been life changing? Goop? Goop?
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: I know maybe loves a group which is Gwyneth Paltrow's
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: beauty and Gwyneth because she will give like a little
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: things on her Instagram and I thought too, and like
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: game change. What is what products? Illuminators? Is that the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: right thing? Like highlighters? Yeah, like a little and then
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: this little creamy blush thing. I mean, Gwyneth is my girl,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: kidding she is. I could see using organic foundation, no makeup.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I don't wear foundation. I only wear that little illuminator
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever it's called blush and lip gloss. Okay, well
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: that you know what that's really the basics. That is
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: what every new girl nick needs to feel her prettiest.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: And you know, beyond that is when guys starts saying
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: like it's too much. Guys, like you know, this is
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: what I hear guys like a little lip stuff, a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: little mascara and a little blush and highlight. I hear
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: you want to look the same in the morning as
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: you do at night. My only caveat about that is like,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: my I've got a whole bunch of post acne spotting,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: so in like a little bit of rosasha. So like
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: I need to wear a foundation, but that sucks because
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: foundation is always like the telltale makeup, Like you know
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: a girl is wearing foundation. Which it's the one thing
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: My goal in life is to be able to feel
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: really pretty without foundation. That's it. That's a good This
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: is what I dream you do? One more? Do one more? Okay,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: we'll do this because it's fun. Alright, So back to
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor talk. This is from Lovely on after the
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Final Rose, we saw the first five contestants of Becca
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: season eke, I wanted to know your earlier pinions and
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: guesses on who we think will go the furthest out
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: of the five we saw tonight, and if you read
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: my question or answer, it thinks if not also thinks,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: here's to a better season, hopefully slash most likely Lovely.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Let's all remember Dean was one of those. I know
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Dean was sitting with me watching that and I was like, Dean,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: you're such a husband. Now this is this was you
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: last year. Um okay, So these are the guys that
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: stuck to me. One That first guy so cute, they
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: want with the accent, so charming. I just knew all
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: the right things to say. Loved him. Love the guy
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: with the banjo so cute. Also, I thought the whole
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: horse move was pretty cute. I mean, start of a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: fairy tale. You're gonna get back up on the horse
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: and that's how she's going to exit the stage. I
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: mean pretty perfect. Um, there's that second guy up. He
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: was a little too swab. I can see him being
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: like a Robbie character. Yeah, it's all blurred to me.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be on no way. I don't know.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: But that banjo guy was so freaking cute. I was
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: stoked over him. I was like kind of like, oh man,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: I want to see more of this guy. I think
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: he's going to go really far. I think the first time,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: remember when do we see the Bachelorette went May? So, guys,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: we have um over two months, but you know what
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: they're going to breeze by. It's going to be alarmingly fast. Yeah,
• 1:29:16
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• 1:29:19
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• 1:29:39
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  Speaker 1: It's so embarrassing that I actually haven't posted mine in
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  Speaker 1: the past. Like, I'm not embarrassed by anything that I do.
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  Speaker 1: I just like embrace the awkwardness. This is like the
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• 1:29:57
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