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Episode 272: Lifeline (SG-A 4.02) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and seventy two, Talk
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Speaker 1: and Stargate Atlantis. Mitch and Maddie Here. I'm Mitch. How
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Speaker 1: you going, guys? Maddie addressed your people?
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Speaker 2: Oh, oh, greetings my people.
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Speaker 1: What up, doll? I mean, we both hate the keep?
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Speaker 1: What up? Fam? Familiar? We both hate the Oh Maddie's here?
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Speaker 1: How are you? Maddie? Is if we haven't, like I
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Speaker 1: haven't let you in the building or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: But it's definitely weirder now that Brendan's not here that
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Speaker 1: we can't pretend like, oh, maybe two of you walked
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Speaker 1: in together and I've just seen you or anything. I mean,
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Speaker 1: just to really establish things that we haven't already the
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Speaker 1: last two hundred and seventy odd episodes. I have the
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Speaker 1: only key into this building. Yeah, so, yes, how much
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it?
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Speaker 2: You haven't spoken in age.
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Speaker 1: I'm just seeing so so well.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you need to touch me like that, but
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Speaker 2: you know, at least as you know, I mean, you
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Speaker 2: do it, it's always going to be a yes. I
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Speaker 2: need you to just you know, put the front one
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Speaker 2: and just you know, at least at least ask Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'll ask afterwards. Yes, yeah, because as we know, consent
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Speaker 2: is sexy. So I don't know where I'm going with this.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to see how long the path was
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Speaker 1: that you were walking on. We're talking episode two of
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Speaker 1: season four of Stargate Atlantis life Line. We said last
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Speaker 1: week it's basically the third and final part of a
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Speaker 1: three part of that did begin with what first strike?
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Speaker 1: The season finale number one episode? Maybe the entire series?
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Speaker 1: You think it could be there? You go, I Drift
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Speaker 1: last week and then Lifeline this week. Duck into the
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Speaker 1: synopsis first, But then I hang, are we doing that
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Speaker 1: thing we did last week? We're doing that every week now? Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'll talk about what I'm going to
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Speaker 1: talk about after the Actually we're bitch paying attention.
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Speaker 2: I've got a few different versions I just to play,
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Speaker 2: you know, just to freshen things up, different versions.
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Speaker 1: Good Man, off to commit them to my little little
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Speaker 1: button board over here. Okay, Lifeline Shepherd and his team
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Speaker 1: are trapped by a replicated a sub routine while on
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Speaker 1: a daring rate. Secura desperately needed ZPM ZZPM deep inside
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Speaker 1: replicator Derek Dory, who who we got directing and writing
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Speaker 1: this one, buddy, Oh is it not on the thing?
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Speaker 1: It's not on the synopsis. It tells you what the
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Speaker 1: special features are. Oh hang On?
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Speaker 2: Written by Carl Binder direct commentary.
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Speaker 1: On Lifeline by director Slash supervising producer Martin Wood and
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Speaker 1: A Man of Tapping and written by Oh hang On,
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Speaker 1: There you go. Fantastic So Martin Wood directed both. Carbyn
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Speaker 1: Neebana wrote, is that what you're saying?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Real alliant? Okay, hang on? Which one of these you
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Speaker 1: want me to play? Then? There was the one we
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Speaker 1: played last week, but just try different on there's a
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Speaker 1: couple anyway.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I
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Speaker 3: feel about it.
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Speaker 1: Brilliant. What do you think to be talking? What do
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Speaker 1: you think? They didn't even have any of the Mitch mids.
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Speaker 1: I told you I was going to keep it fresh.
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Speaker 1: This is brilliant. I like it. Okay, yeah, first time
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Speaker 1: Stargate Atlantis episode two life. I mean, like I said,
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Speaker 1: I really liked last week with a drift, and I
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Speaker 1: didn't think that we would never wake up, So I
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Speaker 1: wasn't surprised when she did. I was just surprised at
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Speaker 1: how they were able to quote unquote fix her ailments
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Speaker 1: by becoming half replicator essentially, and then too. I mean,
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Speaker 1: now we got at the end of last week the
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Speaker 1: hey here yep for a heist. I'm like, oh ship
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Speaker 1: Oceans eleven, what are we doing here?
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Speaker 2: Oceans SG eleven?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, and so I mean it just it
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Speaker 1: just added another yep. The ship, the city still floating through,
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Speaker 1: They're still in danger, the power still running out, that
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Speaker 1: even able if they have enough to even jump to
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Speaker 1: do the raid, and they certainly can't get back, but
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Speaker 1: they don't know that until they get whatever's going on.
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Speaker 1: Still problems arising, but we have to use uh, we
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Speaker 1: say replicator. Is there a replica something? What can we
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Speaker 1: do with weir?
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Speaker 2: I think it's even I think it's just rep No.
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Speaker 2: I think she's still just weird at this point. Oh
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Speaker 2: that's not potentially a spoiler.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean I get Look, I've seen the
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Speaker 1: end of this episode and it's like, we don't know.
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Speaker 1: So last week I had seen this episode, and so
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Speaker 1: I to try and just talk about a drift. This
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Speaker 1: is as far as I've watched Atlantis at this point.
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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't call her a replicator.
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Speaker 2: I would say, she's she's weird with nan nights because
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Speaker 2: really she's hurt her adjacent she's the same like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: she's always had always but for the last year she Yeah,
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Speaker 2: she's had those that nights in her for ages. They've
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Speaker 2: just been dormant, yes, and now they're active.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. So yeah, I liked it, like to sort
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Speaker 1: of taking the fight to them, being able to sneak
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Speaker 1: through and and yeah, do a little do a little raid,
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Speaker 1: little sneaking around and stuff, and to to essentially get
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Speaker 1: away with it, but not without sacrifice. Brendan would say,
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Speaker 1: not much of a sacrifice, because's only we are. But
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Speaker 1: you know, we got to a point where they thought
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Speaker 1: she was dead anyway, they thought they were having to
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Speaker 1: say goodbye to her and then they get her back.
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Speaker 1: They not that Chef had ever thought she was evil.
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Speaker 1: That was the replicator parts of her that were maybe
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Speaker 1: potentially going to make her evil. Not that he was
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Speaker 1: necessarily wrong, because that could still happen down the line,
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Speaker 1: but it's still got to a point where it's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: she's us, she's we thus, she's for us, she's loyal,
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Speaker 1: she's fixed, And then without any ceremony, like it would
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Speaker 1: have been if she would have just died on a
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Speaker 1: table and they would have had a quiet moment where
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Speaker 1: her they don't even know whether she's still conscious, alive,
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Speaker 1: in one piece whatever. So I like that. I like
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Speaker 1: I like our characters and anything I watch sticking around
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Speaker 1: to the next episode, the next movie. But this has
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Speaker 1: got a mirror real life at some point, and I
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Speaker 1: do like when sacrifices are made and you lose a
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Speaker 1: long timer. And I don't I'm not an idiot. I
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Speaker 1: don't think we're never going to see her again, because
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Speaker 1: otherwise you would get a farewell, a proper farewell. But
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Speaker 1: and I'm not looking at you in case you're like, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: laughing under your breath. But at the same time, as
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Speaker 1: far as the characters are concerned, she may as well
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Speaker 1: be dead and they will never see her again. And
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Speaker 1: so that's a big moment for the show, because this
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Speaker 1: is a character that's been around for episodes prior to
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Speaker 1: this series even existing, let alone being a part of
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Speaker 1: everything so far. To now it's like, well, we know,
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Speaker 1: as viewers fifteen years on, that this show lasts another
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Speaker 1: two seasons. She's not going to be a well, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, be a massive part of that.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean given that, you know, I obviously
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Speaker 2: spoke about last week about you know, her connection to
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Speaker 2: the city and to the planet and all that kind
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Speaker 2: of thing. I think that also kind of could be
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Speaker 2: tied into one of my other favorite episodes, which is
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Speaker 2: Before I Sleep, and it's like, because of the sacrifices
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Speaker 2: that other we are made, Yeah, he is the only
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Speaker 2: reason this team succeeded in actually taking the city and
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Speaker 2: rising and all the things happening in the pilot. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think this is a much better way, yeah, for
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth as a character too, to make because it's, yeah,
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Speaker 2: she didn't make that sacrifice because of the Nanits. It's
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Speaker 2: just the internights gave her the ability to make this choice.
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Speaker 2: If she could have done that prior to being Nanit Reploia,
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Speaker 2: she would have done it. And I think this is
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Speaker 2: a much better way for that character to be written
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Speaker 2: out of the show then yeah, just dying in a
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Speaker 2: bed or something like that, you know, And imagine if
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Speaker 2: if all of last episode had just been you know,
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Speaker 2: that Ronan scene, which was great, but over and over again,
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Speaker 2: like every person coming in had like like when Daniel
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Speaker 2: was going every character coming in and having their tearful
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Speaker 2: goodbye and it just being like an episode of Er
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Speaker 2: or something like that.
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Speaker 1: You just be like yawn.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, this was really really a cool way
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Speaker 2: to write the character out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just like I'm trying to imagine what would have
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Speaker 1: been like for an entire fandom watching this for the
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Speaker 1: first time, where Atlantis left its planet and then we
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Speaker 1: are were kind of killed off. So we're losing either way.
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Speaker 1: We're losing a main player of the cast and the
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Speaker 1: entire location. Again, I even joked about it last week,
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Speaker 1: but at the end of this episode, we land on
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Speaker 1: a planet that might have more land to it rather
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Speaker 1: than mostly ocean like the former planet was, but they
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Speaker 1: still land still blue skies, maybe get a couple more moons,
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Speaker 1: but they're in a giant ocean. Yeah, everything you basically
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Speaker 1: looks exactly the same as what it did.
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Speaker 2: You could still use one of the stock establishing shots
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Speaker 2: from season one, use it in next.
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Speaker 1: Week's episode, and no doubt they will know the difference. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're not We're not landing on an ocean that has
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Speaker 1: mountain views, you know, or anything. We're going to have
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Speaker 1: to like, Okay, now a.
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Speaker 2: Little lake or something like that. Yeah, yeah, kind of cool,
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Speaker 2: have a giant moat around them or something. Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: interesting though. I did have a couple of little parallels.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Brendan and I in particular, I have spoken
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Speaker 2: very heavily about how the later you get in in Stargate,
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Speaker 2: they just reuse the same tropes and storylines and moments
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Speaker 2: all over again. Obviously, two weeks ago in Arc of Truth,
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Speaker 2: we spoke about how the reuse of the the Anubis
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Speaker 2: and Oma Desalafie and all that kind of stuff. So
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Speaker 2: a couple of things I wanted to point out in
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Speaker 2: this episode was obviously the weird Oberoth moment at the end.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very similar to the Daniel replicata back in
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Speaker 2: Threads and Reckoning all that kind of stuff, where Carter
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Speaker 2: was probing Daniel's mind about assension and all that kind
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Speaker 2: of and he was able to take control and freeze
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Speaker 2: all the replicators that were attacking Earth, And we did
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Speaker 2: a similar thing here. She kind of tricked over Ath
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Speaker 2: and was able to freeze everybody and to help her
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Speaker 2: team escape.
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Speaker 1: That was very cool. I liked you because everything that
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Speaker 1: happened up until that point was completely believable that they
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Speaker 1: would come along, and the fact that Weir wasn't involved
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Speaker 1: in everything. It wasn't like she was in the room
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Speaker 1: where that stuff was happening. So once you leave her,
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Speaker 1: if I would have at all thought that that's what
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Speaker 1: was going on, as soon as you leave the room
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Speaker 1: and you're in a different place with Ronan with Shepherd
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Speaker 1: and they're being captured and Rodney as well in a
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Speaker 1: different place, I'm not thinking. I'm thinking that's a hundred
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Speaker 1: percent real. And when that was all just because that's
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Speaker 1: what ober thought was going on, I'm like, oh, that's brilliant.
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Speaker 1: Holy shit. We is right in. She's powerful, she's plugged
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Speaker 1: me in. And even she's like, you know I've got you.
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Speaker 1: Don't underestimate me because well that won't happen again. Oh
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Speaker 1: you're getting weak, doctor Weir. And I'm like, if I
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Speaker 1: was her, because I believe that is that as viewer,
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Speaker 1: I believe that's what's actually happening, I'd be like, am
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Speaker 1: I though? Like? Am I though? Or you am I
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Speaker 1: making you think that again? Because sure, okay, he doesn't
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Speaker 1: think like a human, he's multiple robots or whatever, but
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Speaker 1: surely at some point he's gonna think I can never
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Speaker 1: trust anything that I'm believing at all again, Like he
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Speaker 1: could live his entire life and with her plugged into him,
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Speaker 1: Like he could live at an entire millennia in the
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Speaker 1: split of a second with her taking control of his body.
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Speaker 1: So I actually really like that. That was a great
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Speaker 1: way of because she just left the ship and walked out,
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Speaker 1: and they were like, can we shut her down yet,
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Speaker 1: killer Shepherd's like, yeah, pull the plug, man like fire off.
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Speaker 1: That shit didn't work, and then you don't know whether
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Speaker 1: she's gone a little dark side or she's went there
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Speaker 1: to do the thing but using a bad way to
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Speaker 1: get there. And it's like, no, No, she just knew
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Speaker 1: that she had to make the ultimate sacrifice play and
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Speaker 1: she had to absolutely walk into the lines Den to
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Speaker 1: be able to do what.
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Speaker 2: She had walk into the lines, then put her head
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Speaker 2: in the lion's mouth.
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Speaker 1: Distracted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was so cool in the audio commentary
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Speaker 2: that it took if you actually go back, obviously knowing
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Speaker 2: what you know now, If you do go ever, go
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Speaker 2: back and watch the scene in the in the jail
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Speaker 2: cell where it is fake Ronan Rodney and Shepherd, those
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Speaker 2: actors in that moment actually did make some different choices.
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Speaker 2: Like if you look at every other time we've seen
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Speaker 2: Ronan in a cell, whenever the guards come in, Ronan
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Speaker 2: is always the one that pushes himself to the front
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Speaker 2: as a way.
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Speaker 1: To protect everybody. Yeah. Yeah, whereas in this if you look.
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Speaker 2: Ronan actually is right at the back, right up the back,
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Speaker 2: looking real cool, leaning up against the post and stuff
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Speaker 2: like that. Because they just, like the actors, decided to
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Speaker 2: make that choice. And this is Weir's interpretation, this is
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Speaker 2: how it included the audience to let them know that
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Speaker 2: this is so we're not going to act one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent the way we normally would.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just there to be I did not
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Speaker 1: even think about.
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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I mean neither until until I sort of
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Speaker 2: hurt the old auto common trail. I was like, that's good,
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Speaker 2: and that's a fun thing for the actors be able
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Speaker 2: to do on set as well. Okay, well I'm not
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Speaker 2: playing the real version of my character. Yeah, so I
13:13
Speaker 2: can play around and it makes things a little more
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Speaker 2: interesting for me on the day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing, as soon as we turned the Microsoft
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Speaker 1: last week, we're like, oh, we didn't really talk much
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Speaker 1: about Midway and Carter and like I think right at
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Speaker 1: the start of the episode, I'm like, oh, we've got
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Speaker 1: to talk about Carter. And then as sin as we
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Speaker 1: started recording and we realized we hadn't done that. So
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit out of order to talk about that.
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Speaker 1: But I kind of wanted to cover off from stuff
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Speaker 1: from last week to go into it.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to do it, because, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's sort of because you'd seen both episodes and we
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Speaker 2: didn't want to get confused or anything like that of
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Speaker 2: what scene is what, because Carter's only in maybe one
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Speaker 2: or two scenes. Yeah, episode not very much. It's a
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Speaker 2: little heavier in this episode. She's a little more involved
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Speaker 2: in this one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I actually forget why she was even
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Speaker 1: at one of the Midway points. What was she doing there?
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Speaker 2: They were just working on the on the game, because obviously,
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Speaker 2: the last time you saw Midway was the return back
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Speaker 2: in the middle of season three, where it was just
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Speaker 2: the wire frame with the two gates and we had
14:05
Speaker 2: to use the puddle jumper. So for the first time
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Speaker 2: now we've seen that they've actually built the Midway station work,
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Speaker 2: so you can people can walk in there if you
14:13
Speaker 2: look very closely in last week's episode when they do
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Speaker 2: an establishing shot of Midway Station and it becomes an
14:19
Speaker 2: important plot point in a future episode. There's actually a
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Speaker 2: puddle jumper docked on the underside of Midway Station.
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Speaker 1: It's a sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, Carda was just working on staff. Obviously it
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Speaker 2: does hurt I think SG one a little bit because
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Speaker 2: obviously the end of Unending End the Arc of Truth
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Speaker 2: was just like, well, no, they're still going through the Stargate,
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Speaker 2: they're still doing their missions, but Carta doesn't seem to
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Speaker 2: be a part of SG one and see she's off
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Speaker 2: working with Bill on Midway.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Even the it's funny, like here we outlet. It
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Speaker 1: was two weeks ago, we're talking about Arc of Truth.
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Speaker 1: I'm watching Carter, you know, pop in for the first time,
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Speaker 1: and they have you know, some of the score, you know,
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Speaker 1: since their face comes into shot, and I'm like, oh wow,
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Speaker 1: because the last thing we saw you doing is walking
15:05
Speaker 1: through the gate at the end of season ten, Like
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Speaker 1: I've got the rest of the team with Ark of Truth.
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Speaker 1: That even happened two weeks ago. But yeah, they were
15:14
Speaker 1: there references towards the end, like hey, let's get in
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Speaker 1: touch with the SGC. It wasn't Walter on the other
15:18
Speaker 1: end of the microphone, which is a shame Atlanta's can't
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Speaker 1: afford him. No, that's true, and then forget Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: go tell Landry this and I'm like, oh yeah, Landry's like,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't even I know. That's why I like sequels.
15:31
Speaker 1: That's why I like series going on or sequel series
15:34
Speaker 1: or anything. Just knowing that, you know, a story about
15:37
Speaker 1: a group of characters doesn't just you know, it's not
15:40
Speaker 1: like that universe was completely nothing and then just all
15:43
Speaker 1: of a sudden came to being someone's thirty two years
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Speaker 1: old and they exist for a period of three weeks. Well,
15:49
Speaker 1: we get a story told over the course of two
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Speaker 1: hours and twelve minutes, and then as soon as it
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Speaker 1: fades to black, that universe ceases to exist. I like
15:55
Speaker 1: the idea of thinking about these characters went on to
15:58
Speaker 1: live lives and whether or not they were insignificant or not.
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Speaker 1: So when I'm when I hear say Landry, I'm like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: there's there's bow Bridges just hanging around there, still doing
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Speaker 1: his thing, and that's cool. I wonder what he's up
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Speaker 1: to with this, and wonder what's been going on since
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Speaker 1: Ark of Truth.
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Speaker 2: I think it's why we get connected to shows like
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Speaker 2: this because it stops them from being just these fictional
16:17
Speaker 2: characters and it feels like they're real world people. It
16:20
Speaker 2: feels like people we know when we're invested in, and
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Speaker 2: I think that's the sign of good, good entertainment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the moment where Carter comes out to
16:28
Speaker 1: Shepherd and says, oh, it was weirdly, it sounded like
16:31
Speaker 1: it should have been more from someone like Tilk where
16:35
Speaker 1: she was general Andrew sends on his condolences. He was
16:39
Speaker 1: deeply saddened to hear of Elizabeth whiz passing. It was
16:42
Speaker 1: just like human, you're a person, what are you doing?
16:46
Speaker 1: But that was where I was like, oh, yeah, we
16:49
Speaker 1: couldn't get a shot of bow Bridges because he's not
16:51
Speaker 1: contracted to this franchise anymore.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, he's not on the on the next set
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Speaker 2: over working that. Yeah, because the show's finished. That's what
16:58
Speaker 2: I packed up. It's done. They don't have that set anymore.
17:01
Speaker 2: They don't have you know.
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Speaker 1: But with that second mention of Landry, I'm like, and
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Speaker 1: did Shepard at that point did he ask Carter was
17:08
Speaker 1: she going to stick around, and she said, now I'm
17:09
Speaker 1: going to go back or she whatever it was, Yeah,
17:11
Speaker 1: she headed back. I was waiting for it to drop
17:13
Speaker 1: an SG one reference to be and especially I guess
17:16
Speaker 1: with Continuum. I mean the fact that, like you said
17:18
Speaker 1: last week, Martin Wood is going between episode one of
17:22
Speaker 1: season four of Atlantis and Continuum, we know SG one
17:26
Speaker 1: is coming back the show. The franchise isn't called SG
17:29
Speaker 1: one anymore, but that team is still very much SG one.
17:31
Speaker 2: So I didn't pay enough attention to if Carter was
17:35
Speaker 2: wearing like SG one patches, greens or anything like that.
17:38
Speaker 2: I didn't look closely enough about to see whether that
17:40
Speaker 2: was that.
17:40
Speaker 1: I didn't pick up on anything. But I don't know.
17:43
Speaker 1: I like the I like, you know, it's not it's
17:46
Speaker 1: far from being like cameo porn or anything like. She
17:48
Speaker 1: played a significant part and she is one of the
17:51
Speaker 1: most you know, intelligent people between the two galaxies.
17:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing that kind of aside
17:56
Speaker 2: from the fact that her being in the opening credits,
17:59
Speaker 2: so as a viewer you kind of like, oh, I thought,
18:02
Speaker 2: the weird thing is it was great the way they're
18:04
Speaker 2: introduced in it, Like in last episode, in this episode,
18:06
Speaker 2: they you know, they gate into the Pegasus galaxy jump
18:10
Speaker 2: on board Apollo. You know, uh, doctor Lee being his
18:13
Speaker 2: goofy self and.
18:14
Speaker 1: His space is vast and all these things.
18:17
Speaker 2: But then like when the ship starts hitting the fan
18:20
Speaker 2: and you know, Carter's on the Apollo, you know, she's
18:23
Speaker 2: sitting in the chair and she's you know, she's working
18:25
Speaker 2: with colonel Oh god, what's the Apollo captain's name? Michael
18:31
Speaker 2: Beach's character?
18:32
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Oh no, right, colonel on, come on out.
18:39
Speaker 1: We're gurgling. Yeah, Hollywood, Google Egg, I'm imdbing Michael Beach stargate.
18:45
Speaker 1: I didn't even type it properly.
18:47
Speaker 2: Oh see, I'm already on the IMDb episode, So come on,
18:50
Speaker 2: come on. No, let's say you can do it first. No,
18:53
Speaker 2: strip it Internet this, I should have gotten the friggin'
18:57
Speaker 2: Elie Colonel.
18:59
Speaker 1: Elis you go, Abraham l That's it.
19:03
Speaker 2: So, yeah, she was working with him. But then at
19:06
Speaker 2: some point suddenly, when like when we're trying to land
19:09
Speaker 2: Atlantis on the planet towards the end of the episode,
19:12
Speaker 2: Carter's just suddenly on Atlantis with us working and the
19:17
Speaker 2: the Apollo is nowhere to be seen or heard it's
19:20
Speaker 2: just gone. What they say was it was well, later
19:23
Speaker 2: on they say it's in orbit or something like that.
19:25
Speaker 2: But actually, just like during the landing procedure, like Apollo
19:30
Speaker 2: is not helping out or anything like that, and Carter's
19:32
Speaker 2: there involved and all that kind of stuff, and so yeah,
19:35
Speaker 2: that that did feel a little bit weird that she
19:37
Speaker 2: just kind of just went, well, I'm just gonna jump
19:39
Speaker 2: because obviously she would have had to have kicked someone
19:41
Speaker 2: out of their chair on.
19:42
Speaker 1: Ellis's bridge because more she's more.
19:46
Speaker 2: Well, more talented, she's you know, she's you know, more experienced,
19:49
Speaker 2: so it makes sense to have it. But she's like, oh,
19:51
Speaker 2: you can have this back, and I'm just gonna jump
19:52
Speaker 2: over here because I don't actually work on your ship,
19:54
Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna jump over and get some more
19:56
Speaker 2: screen time over on the city.
19:58
Speaker 1: Well that's getting landed. It was weird even that. So
20:03
Speaker 1: what's the behind? I mean, okay, I could wager a guess,
20:08
Speaker 1: but I don't know what Carter's place or how permanent
20:13
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't know any details ongoing about Amanda
20:17
Speaker 1: tapping on three might answer a few questions. Okay, so
20:22
Speaker 1: we'll talk again in seven days but okay, you know
20:26
Speaker 1: what we will we will talk about that where I
20:28
Speaker 1: can talk about the same thing but with a different actress,
20:30
Speaker 1: and we can now talk about the Tory Higginson thing.
20:35
Speaker 1: So I went into this going, I mean, she could
20:39
Speaker 1: just remain if I hadn't seen the DVD case, going,
20:42
Speaker 1: why isn't Elizabeth We're on the front cover again, Carter's
20:45
Speaker 1: as far as the franchise goes, a bigger character, yeh,
20:48
Speaker 1: far more important all that sort of stuff. But do
20:50
Speaker 1: you kick off Tory Higginson from a DVD cover that
20:54
Speaker 1: she's been a part of three seasons to put him
20:56
Speaker 1: into tapping on or you just put one extra person
20:58
Speaker 1: on the DVD cover?
20:59
Speaker 2: So you're Joe and Paul you that's what you do,
21:03
Speaker 2: That's what you do. But check.
21:04
Speaker 1: But that was also that's that's that's decisions made about
21:08
Speaker 1: obviously as much bigger things than just the DVD covers.
21:11
Speaker 1: But I still didn't look at them enough, or didn't
21:14
Speaker 1: allow myself to look at them enough to think enough
21:16
Speaker 1: about why that was.
21:19
Speaker 2: Like, we're trying to hide the season six DVD case
21:21
Speaker 2: from rees?
21:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And and so I didn't sit there through
21:27
Speaker 1: we are being unconscious, she's going to die, she's never
21:31
Speaker 1: going to be the same. Oh no, she's coming back
21:33
Speaker 1: as a replicator, or you know with nan nights to think,
21:37
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's been written out because at what I'm
21:42
Speaker 1: always wondering about the contractual shit with actors, where if
21:49
Speaker 1: they're going to write them out, it's like, Okay, we're
21:51
Speaker 1: going to write you out at the end of the season.
21:53
Speaker 1: We're going to need you for the first episode of
21:54
Speaker 1: next season. Like is that a whole new contract? How
21:57
Speaker 1: much more money do they are? Like if someone goes
21:59
Speaker 1: that goes I want to at the end of the season,
22:01
Speaker 1: they go, okay, great, we're going to let you leave,
22:03
Speaker 1: and they go, we can't actually do that because if
22:05
Speaker 1: we kill you off, there's no cliffhanger. Can we bring
22:07
Speaker 1: you back for one more episode next year? And that
22:09
Speaker 1: just causes a whole lot of paperwork dramas for the production.
22:13
Speaker 1: So I did not expect her to be again. I
22:16
Speaker 1: don't know whether she pops up next week or not
22:18
Speaker 1: again until halfway through season five. I have no idea,
22:21
Speaker 1: but just with what you hinted that last week saying
22:24
Speaker 1: it came as a surprise to her as again this
22:27
Speaker 1: is annoying to everybody else that's listening, that has seen
22:30
Speaker 1: the show and that watched it for the first time
22:31
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. I don't know. Yeah, so what happened
22:35
Speaker 1: to her program?
22:38
Speaker 2: I am a little hesitant to give you this piece
22:40
Speaker 2: of information, but I think it will provide you with
22:42
Speaker 2: some context. We spoke about I spoke about earlier. You know,
22:45
Speaker 2: it's a lot of repeating. It's a lot of repeating.
22:47
Speaker 2: You know, she basically got Rainbow. So in the same
22:52
Speaker 2: way rain they went, Okay, your contract's up, and instead
22:55
Speaker 2: of renewing you as a regular.
22:58
Speaker 1: I work in a radio station.
22:59
Speaker 2: I've seen Yeah, we're going to see people four where
23:02
Speaker 2: we're not going to fire you. You're not going to
23:04
Speaker 2: be a guest star.
23:05
Speaker 1: We're going to make you recurring.
23:07
Speaker 2: So with Rainbow, I believe his his contract for season
23:11
Speaker 2: two was for four episodes with the potential.
23:13
Speaker 1: For more, not even recurring. You get a special appearance contract. Yeah,
23:17
Speaker 1: so like he did, he did like those first two.
23:19
Speaker 2: He did the Siege part three, and then he did
23:21
Speaker 2: that runner episode where we introduced Ronan and wrote out forward,
23:26
Speaker 2: and then he came back for that two parts of
23:28
Speaker 2: the Hive and the Lost boys. Ye, So basically yeah,
23:31
Speaker 2: and apparently the and again it's something we'll have to
23:34
Speaker 2: talk about it a later time. But Tory Higginson at
23:39
Speaker 2: the time, she was very cordial and very professional about
23:43
Speaker 2: it because obviously she wanted to be able to still
23:46
Speaker 2: continue and come back.
23:47
Speaker 1: And we're not finding out a lot of details until
23:49
Speaker 1: a lot long after, is what you're saying.
23:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'll save it till I don't know, maybe
23:54
Speaker 2: the season rap.
23:54
Speaker 1: I don't know.
23:55
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, because I I haven't
23:58
Speaker 2: pre read some of the things. So Okay, we'll see
24:00
Speaker 2: how we go.
24:01
Speaker 1: But no, that's fine.
24:02
Speaker 2: Basically, I'm because I'm just I'm using information I know
24:05
Speaker 2: from like two thousand and fifteen, twenty seventeen. We speak
24:10
Speaker 2: to two thousand and fourteventeen fifteen. I think fourteen was
24:14
Speaker 2: when I was un dressed up as King of the North. Yeah,
24:16
Speaker 2: that would be fourteen. No, no, no, fourteen, no, because I
24:19
Speaker 2: remember I lost my job here in fourteen. Fourteen or
24:22
Speaker 2: thirteen would have been the start. I was in the
24:26
Speaker 2: Star Trek costume and you were in That was thirteen.
24:28
Speaker 2: That was thirteen, So yeah, EI would have been fourteen
24:30
Speaker 2: or fifteen.
24:30
Speaker 1: Then okay, we spoke with it. I s took the
24:32
Speaker 1: picture somewhere, Yeah, because I didn't. I had never i'd
24:36
Speaker 1: seen her obviously, because yeah, oh that's right in her
24:38
Speaker 1: SG one appearances and she was eating on.
24:40
Speaker 2: Link and then I was just like being, oh my god,
24:42
Speaker 2: it's we are.
24:43
Speaker 1: We like to say a lot of ship. We took
24:45
Speaker 1: a lot of crap on this podcast, but and hey,
24:48
Speaker 1: this isn't putting words in Tory Higginson's mouth necessarily leave it.
24:52
Speaker 1: Leave it. But there was there was something there. There
24:56
Speaker 1: was a there was palpable chemistry. There was chemistry between
25:00
Speaker 1: our very own Lincoln. My brother's obviously been on the
25:02
Speaker 1: show plenty of times, and one Tory Higginson. There was
25:05
Speaker 1: something going on. He's an attractive man, she's attractive woman.
25:09
Speaker 1: I was interviewing her and that was the most I'd
25:11
Speaker 1: ever really seen of her. And she looks very different
25:13
Speaker 1: than what she does in the show. She's like she's
25:15
Speaker 1: got sort of you know, short, wavy, if not curly hair,
25:18
Speaker 1: and in real life that she she had the bangs
25:20
Speaker 1: on and she had the long hair, long straight hair,
25:23
Speaker 1: and like she's got a lot of sass about her.
25:25
Speaker 1: She's like more personality than than Weir is allowed in
25:28
Speaker 1: the position that she has on the show, and within that,
25:31
Speaker 1: within that program, a lot of charisma. There was a
25:34
Speaker 1: lot of appeal about Tory Higginson and you know, Lincoln's
25:38
Speaker 1: got a lot of appeal. And like she she left
25:40
Speaker 1: a con that we were going and saying, oh, no,
25:42
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving the country. I'm actually going to go
25:44
Speaker 1: stay down and inside town, heading down to Byron. Yeah,
25:47
Speaker 1: it's now known as Hemsworth Country. She was ahead of
25:51
Speaker 1: the time, Yeah, she was. She was heading down to
25:52
Speaker 1: Hemsworth Country. And I was like, yeah, I was going
25:55
Speaker 1: to stay there for a couple of days. And I'm like,
25:56
Speaker 1: is there a chance that Lincoln goes down there and
25:59
Speaker 1: it takes her out to.
26:00
Speaker 2: It felt like she was maybe like putting out a
26:02
Speaker 2: soft invite.
26:03
Speaker 1: You know, and we were putting out more than a
26:07
Speaker 1: soft like push towards Lincoln the go yeah, do it
26:12
Speaker 1: make this happen?
26:14
Speaker 2: Okay, back to we we were on we were talking
26:15
Speaker 2: about I was talking about, you know, her contract and
26:18
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. Something I we're talking about,
26:21
Speaker 2: you know, the repeating and all that kind of thing
26:23
Speaker 2: as well. Something I did want to point out to
26:25
Speaker 2: you just because it it's baffling when you think about
26:29
Speaker 2: it in the same way I talked about you know,
26:31
Speaker 2: we are got forwarded.
26:34
Speaker 1: Well, we lost Forward to.
26:36
Speaker 2: A side effect from the Wraith, our biggest enemy. We
26:40
Speaker 2: lost Weir to a side effect from the Replicators, our
26:44
Speaker 2: new biggest enemy.
26:46
Speaker 1: And something to factor in. And I think this is for.
26:48
Speaker 2: Me, This is one of the reasons why I lost
26:49
Speaker 2: a little bit of interest in this show in season
26:51
Speaker 2: four and five, is I think as a protective mode.
26:54
Speaker 2: You know, we went ten seasons with essentially not a
26:57
Speaker 2: lot of cast eight seasons, I guess, not a lot
26:58
Speaker 2: of cast changes. In SG one it was only five
27:02
Speaker 2: episodes ago.
27:03
Speaker 1: We lost Carson. Yeah that's wild.
27:06
Speaker 2: You know, So to think about it, in three seasons,
27:09
Speaker 2: we've lost Ford, We've lost Carson, we've lost Weir. So
27:14
Speaker 2: of the original what six people, the only one's left
27:18
Speaker 2: are Rodney Taylor. So that's half of the main cast.
27:21
Speaker 1: I guess if I would have thought about that, I'd
27:23
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, what's going on there? Contractually, because okay,
27:26
Speaker 1: we're is one of the main players, But I get no,
27:29
Speaker 1: screw that she is like she's if she's not one
27:31
Speaker 1: of the top two. If it's not her and Shepherd,
27:33
Speaker 1: which it kind of is, sorry, one of the top three.
27:36
Speaker 1: Sorry with her and Rodney, then she's definitely in the
27:38
Speaker 1: top four, top five you consider that team, and Carson
27:42
Speaker 1: is very like underneath weir like.
27:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the first season he was just a recurring.
27:46
Speaker 2: It was only season two and three he became a regular.
27:48
Speaker 1: Yes, but I would still look at him and go,
27:51
Speaker 1: you should get less screen time than we are, and
27:54
Speaker 1: we should get less screen time than Shepherd Rodney, right,
27:57
Speaker 1: And then if I would have thought about that it's
28:00
Speaker 1: only been five five episodes, and then now we've lost
28:02
Speaker 1: We've lost him, we've lost her. I guess, especially without
28:07
Speaker 1: knowing that it was not necessarily her decision, that there
28:10
Speaker 1: would be some contractual issues going on in negotiations, Like
28:14
Speaker 1: you know, hey, my first thought for some strange reason
28:17
Speaker 1: was Power Rangers. But all of a sudden, you know,
28:19
Speaker 1: Jason left and Zach left, and it's like they you know,
28:23
Speaker 1: you hear them talk at cons now and they'd be like, well,
28:26
Speaker 1: we just thought we we deserved more money. Yeah, they're
28:28
Speaker 1: getting paid like three hundred and fifty bucks a week.
28:30
Speaker 1: Holy shit. I guess mid nineties show non union. So
28:35
Speaker 1: some of them we're happy to stick around, but six.
28:38
Speaker 2: Of them originally were going to say no, we're all
28:40
Speaker 2: going to hold out for a moment because at that
28:41
Speaker 2: point it.
28:42
Speaker 1: Made like a billion dollars or whatever.
28:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then the other three no, we'd
28:45
Speaker 2: like to still be employed, so they.
28:46
Speaker 1: Put out shit, Yeah, see that sucks. And that's so
28:48
Speaker 1: I'm like it was with Jason, Treny and Zach went
28:50
Speaker 1: with Jason, Triny and Zach like they're they're a fiver, right,
28:54
Speaker 1: They're always important as each other on that show. Everyone's
28:56
Speaker 1: got their favorite. You can say whatever, but you know,
28:59
Speaker 1: Carson's not quite the Shepherd as Jason was the Power
29:02
Speaker 1: Rangers or anything. But I would be there going it
29:04
Speaker 1: was cast and wanting more money as we're wanting more
29:07
Speaker 1: money and Shepherd's getting it all and Rodney's getting it
29:10
Speaker 1: all and they don't get them. They don't get it,
29:13
Speaker 1: so they go, well, we're out of here, mate, and
29:15
Speaker 1: there's like all there's trouble and paradise sort of him.
29:17
Speaker 1: Because yeah, that's a that's a tight bundle of episodes
29:20
Speaker 1: where we are losing two main players.
29:22
Speaker 2: I think that with Weird is that she was always Hammond.
29:27
Speaker 2: Plus you know in S G One, Don Davis knew
29:31
Speaker 2: going in that he might only work one day a week,
29:33
Speaker 2: but he.
29:33
Speaker 1: Was in the he was in the opening credits.
29:35
Speaker 2: Yep, he was in every episode because they were to
29:37
Speaker 2: cure him the contractually, we have to put you in
29:41
Speaker 2: this so that we have you on lock, so that
29:42
Speaker 2: you can't go off and do other stuff, and we
29:44
Speaker 2: don't have you when we actually need you.
29:45
Speaker 1: That's just how the industry works, and as fandom works,
29:49
Speaker 1: that's how you become a fan favorite. Yeah, exactly. You're
29:52
Speaker 1: a small player like Gary Jones. Why should Walter be
29:55
Speaker 1: a fan favorite if you've only got one line an episode?
29:58
Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything. I don't want to be He
30:00
Speaker 1: doesn't really do anything for people to the plot. People
30:03
Speaker 1: latch onto him and love him for that reason because
30:05
Speaker 1: he's not integral. But he pops up, gives it one
30:07
Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent and goes home.
30:09
Speaker 2: Happy that one line that is memory. Yeah, and Don
30:13
Speaker 2: did the same thing. Don David did the same thing.
30:14
Speaker 1: As happened.
30:14
Speaker 2: He might only come into the episode and say god
30:16
Speaker 2: speed and that was it, or he'd be sitting in
30:18
Speaker 2: the briefing room and that kind of thing. So I
30:20
Speaker 2: think part of it and this is me sort of
30:23
Speaker 2: filling in a few blanks of my own I think,
30:24
Speaker 2: you know, when they came up with the show, Brad
30:26
Speaker 2: was like, well, we don't want it because everybody hates
30:28
Speaker 2: the briefing room scenes, whether you write them or act
30:30
Speaker 2: in them or direct them or whatever. Everyone hated the
30:32
Speaker 2: briefing room scenes and SG one, so they're like, well,
30:35
Speaker 2: as a.
30:35
Speaker 1: Fan, I'm just thinking, even as a repetitive fan, I
30:37
Speaker 1: don't think I ever because those are the scenes that
30:40
Speaker 1: when they don't shop and I'm like, oh, but that
30:42
Speaker 1: had to have happened. Why Why was that not important
30:44
Speaker 1: enough for us to see? You know, Like I'm probably
30:46
Speaker 1: more relating it as a real world thing, but I
30:48
Speaker 1: can understand as writing it going, oh got exposition.
30:51
Speaker 2: On the second level where it's hotter in the studio.
30:53
Speaker 2: You know, it was a small room with so many
30:54
Speaker 2: ways you can shoot it. So I think they act
30:57
Speaker 2: as him had a choice like, Okay, well let's have
30:59
Speaker 2: our station command to be a little more involved so
31:02
Speaker 2: that it's not just us reporting to this person that
31:04
Speaker 2: we want it, so, you know, and that's why they
31:06
Speaker 2: brought in the weird character who had already been established
31:08
Speaker 2: in the show. So but Tory was wanting more. She
31:12
Speaker 2: was she was feeling underutilized. Whereas you know, Don has
31:15
Speaker 2: had a very long career, he was winding down, he
31:18
Speaker 2: was getting ready to retire anyway, so I think it
31:21
Speaker 2: was a perfect fit for him, where he was quite
31:23
Speaker 2: happy to just come in Gore, you know, have his
31:26
Speaker 2: one day a week and chat with the catch up
31:28
Speaker 2: with his friends, and then go home to his wife
31:30
Speaker 2: and do his painting. Fabulous, we're I think, you know,
31:32
Speaker 2: I was wanting to be sorry, Tory was wanting to
31:34
Speaker 2: be a little more challenged. She was wanting more and
31:36
Speaker 2: more and more. And as I said, Brad was the
31:38
Speaker 2: only one that really knew how to write for her.
31:41
Speaker 2: The others didn't really know what to do with her.
31:43
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, she was feeling unfulfilled. I don't
31:48
Speaker 2: I've never heard of her being difficult on set or
31:50
Speaker 2: anything like that to deal with. But yeah, they just,
31:53
Speaker 2: I guess, just made the choice to change things.
31:56
Speaker 1: And it's a shame for those two things to happen.
31:59
Speaker 1: I guess one might have led to another, but like
32:02
Speaker 1: either way, to feel unfulfilled and then to be shafted. Yeah,
32:07
Speaker 1: that sucks because like from a fandom, and I know
32:10
Speaker 1: we as fans. It's why I mean, we're doing the show,
32:13
Speaker 1: this podcast, you know, decades after the show started, certainly
32:18
Speaker 1: after the last episode premiere and all that sort of stuff.
32:21
Speaker 1: And we are people and we are speaking to people
32:24
Speaker 1: that go back and rewatch this show because we love
32:27
Speaker 1: the familiarity of it. So we don't like big change
32:30
Speaker 1: like that. So to get I don't know, I get
32:35
Speaker 1: selfish as a fan of stuff. And I've no I've
32:37
Speaker 1: mentioned before, but I talked to Lincoln about this, and
32:40
Speaker 1: we are big fans of you know, big franchises and
32:42
Speaker 1: things and ongoing series and seasons of shows at last
32:44
Speaker 1: and last and last. But going, man, if you ever
32:46
Speaker 1: get something, you ever get a franchise role, right, you
32:50
Speaker 1: get to be an Avenger or something, don't don't you know,
32:53
Speaker 1: get your seven appearances that fire you'll lock you up
32:56
Speaker 1: for then go you know what, I think I want
33:00
Speaker 1: a bigger piece of the pie. And you know, don't
33:04
Speaker 1: for when like you know, little girl I'm looking at
33:06
Speaker 1: now Little Sophie grows up and watches it and goes, oh,
33:08
Speaker 1: I really want to you know, Hawkeye to stick around
33:12
Speaker 1: for longer, but Jeremy Renner behind the scenes didn't want
33:15
Speaker 1: to do it. You know, Like, I'm like, you shut up, Lincoln,
33:17
Speaker 1: You be a fan, don't be an actor that don't
33:20
Speaker 1: be someone who deserves a paycheck. How dare you you
33:22
Speaker 1: be a fan? Because you will make something. I will
33:25
Speaker 1: only get to watch it, and I will want you
33:27
Speaker 1: to stick around and to and to do it more
33:30
Speaker 1: so it sucks watching as a fan. Well, that's affected.
33:35
Speaker 1: That wasn't a story decision, and I get that stories
33:38
Speaker 1: are you know, maybe Shepherd should have died midway through
33:41
Speaker 1: season one, or Rodney shouldn't have known the answer to
33:44
Speaker 1: a story that was going to kill off Ronan a problem, Sorry,
33:48
Speaker 1: known the answer to a problem at the end of
33:49
Speaker 1: season two that would have had Ronan killed. But because
33:52
Speaker 1: they've got Jason Momoa signed up for three years, you
33:55
Speaker 1: have to keep him alive so Ronans Rodney has to
33:58
Speaker 1: know the answer or Shepherd has to escape the Rath
34:00
Speaker 1: attack in season one. So storylines are dictated by contracts,
34:03
Speaker 1: but I hate when then contracts on the flip side
34:07
Speaker 1: determine the story, like we're only going to get rid
34:09
Speaker 1: of Weir, not because the story was naturally going that way,
34:13
Speaker 1: but because we didn't want that person on set anymore,
34:16
Speaker 1: or because we didn't want that performer around anymore, because
34:20
Speaker 1: we never really gelled with her anyway. So I think, yeah,
34:22
Speaker 1: this is Sue.
34:23
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's like obviously you know, and Brendan would
34:25
Speaker 2: have been the post shop for this. It's like there
34:28
Speaker 2: was a large chunk of the fan and that didn't
34:30
Speaker 2: like Weir. She wasn't a popular character. And I don't
34:33
Speaker 2: think you can blame Tory for that. I think that
34:36
Speaker 2: is that's the writers. But you know, like that, fictional characters,
34:40
Speaker 2: they are only as good as what we give. Yes, yeah,
34:43
Speaker 2: so I think, you know, it's a shame that what
34:46
Speaker 2: they did here in the Okay, we're going to ride
34:48
Speaker 2: out Tory, get rid of her, We're going to bring
34:50
Speaker 2: in a man to Tappy because she has universal appeal
34:52
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Stargate fandom, so we still
34:54
Speaker 2: have a woman on the cast in charge.
34:55
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff had a bit of panic
34:57
Speaker 1: stations in the sense of like, well, we need to
34:59
Speaker 1: make this change, and it's they can just let's bring
35:01
Speaker 1: in a new man, let's get rid of the woman.
35:03
Speaker 1: Let's bring in a new man, because then it's still
35:04
Speaker 1: unshaded territory. We've got rid of the flagship show. Let's
35:08
Speaker 1: do something that's safe. And also, I think it's also
35:10
Speaker 1: a matter of all love to Amita Tapping saying that, yes,
35:12
Speaker 1: I'm sure whatever role she plays on going for me.
35:14
Speaker 1: Here's the first time. It sounds ridiculously saying that sentence.
35:16
Speaker 1: But she will, of course be great because she is
35:19
Speaker 1: a meta Tapping or her character is Samantha Carter. She
35:21
Speaker 1: is going to be amazing.
35:22
Speaker 2: And I also wonder if there was also a little
35:24
Speaker 2: bit of trepidation on the idea of from the production
35:28
Speaker 2: being like, Okay, well, our flagship show's gone. If we
35:30
Speaker 2: can bring someone over from that, the people that aren't
35:33
Speaker 2: watching Atlantas might follow this pot But also if we
35:39
Speaker 2: can lock in Amanda Tapping, because who knows when they're
35:42
Speaker 2: going to get the band back together in terms of
35:44
Speaker 2: when people are going to be available, So it's like, well,
35:47
Speaker 2: if we can lock her in out before she goes
35:48
Speaker 2: and gets other work, you know, we can sort of
35:51
Speaker 2: capitalize on that.
35:52
Speaker 1: So was it Sanctuary that was hers? When did that start?
35:56
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.
35:57
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, yeah, okay during her SGA run Okay.
36:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe at this point it's it's still the
36:05
Speaker 2: web series like in Universe. While this was happening in
36:08
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, I believe it was still just
36:10
Speaker 2: a little little free web series that it started out.
36:13
Speaker 1: As Sanctuary Sanctuary I know nothing about seeing I on
36:17
Speaker 1: our old school cable TV here in Australia. I came
36:20
Speaker 1: across an episode or two and was just like whoa
36:23
Speaker 1: CGI green Screen stuff.
36:25
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that was its poll for the time for
36:27
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. When it
36:29
Speaker 2: came out, it was the entire It was like it
36:32
Speaker 2: was the proto volume that Disney and stuff are using
36:35
Speaker 2: now right.
36:36
Speaker 1: It was complete.
36:37
Speaker 2: Green Screen was just a couple of prop pieces that
36:40
Speaker 2: the actors could interact with.
36:42
Speaker 1: I think when I first saw it was probably a
36:43
Speaker 1: midway through season two type episodes, so I wasn't going
36:45
Speaker 1: to watch it anyway, but it was just like, oh
36:47
Speaker 1: that I don't I didn't immediately grab him because of
36:49
Speaker 1: how I've got the first.
36:50
Speaker 2: Couple of seasons, because I don't think it's on streaming
36:52
Speaker 2: anywhere here in Australia. I'll have a look, but if not,
36:53
Speaker 2: I'll give you the first couple of times, I.
36:55
Speaker 1: Look, I should have a look. Yeah, just quickly on
36:58
Speaker 1: that as a webit, Like, was it just as a
37:01
Speaker 1: concept or was she part of that in any way
37:04
Speaker 1: before it became an actual fully fledged series.
37:06
Speaker 2: She was part of it as part of the web
37:08
Speaker 2: series because it was I forget who wrote it and stuff.
37:10
Speaker 2: It was someone who was involved in stargaging and Martin
37:14
Speaker 2: Wood did a lot of the direction on it, and like, okay,
37:16
Speaker 2: I think it was just their way of just doing something.
37:18
Speaker 2: You know, they were playing with technology, playing with the
37:20
Speaker 2: green screen of apparently they all had to be painted
37:22
Speaker 2: up like upper lumpas because then the way they hit
37:25
Speaker 2: it with the lighting and the green screen, then that
37:26
Speaker 2: was the way to make them to look normal. Yeah, okay,
37:28
Speaker 2: so mid two thousands were a weird time, but yeah,
37:33
Speaker 2: so I think it was. It was unfortunate the.
37:35
Speaker 1: Way they did it.
37:36
Speaker 2: It's like they could have just written Tory be like
37:39
Speaker 2: written we are better. They could have made her about us,
37:42
Speaker 2: you know, and maybe think about it.
37:44
Speaker 1: It could have been a way to do it. You
37:45
Speaker 1: could do exactly what you're doing with her with the
37:47
Speaker 1: nano its and replicator stuff.
37:49
Speaker 2: Bro I've got I've got an even easier sault. It's
37:51
Speaker 2: like we had that whole crappy stuff with Carter in
37:54
Speaker 2: season two with Joel and I that went on for years.
37:57
Speaker 2: What if Tory or sorry, what if we a had
37:59
Speaker 2: just kept some of the memories from Phoebus when her
38:02
Speaker 2: and John were taken over by those two people and
38:04
Speaker 2: long goodbye? Why did she she just now knows baud
38:09
Speaker 2: Us combat and weapons and all that kind of stuff,
38:11
Speaker 2: so she could be more involved going off world and
38:13
Speaker 2: things like that. And yet the Nanain thing could have
38:16
Speaker 2: been done in a different way as well, Like there
38:19
Speaker 2: were interesting ways to improve the character. If the characters
38:23
Speaker 2: not resonating with the show altered the character a little
38:27
Speaker 2: bit and there'll be a huge improvement. But I think
38:30
Speaker 2: in the same way they copped out with Ford, and
38:33
Speaker 2: when we're just going to write Ford out, I mean granded,
38:35
Speaker 2: we got ronandex in that regard, So I kind of
38:38
Speaker 2: I take that transaction. I go, as much as that
38:40
Speaker 2: must suck for rainbow Son Franks, giving us Ronan was
38:44
Speaker 2: a really good thing for the show, I think personally
38:49
Speaker 2: for me, substituting Weir for another season of Karter wasn't
38:55
Speaker 2: a great transaction for me.
38:57
Speaker 1: I don't think that was.
38:58
Speaker 2: I would have felt like, oh I got ripped off
39:00
Speaker 2: in that transaction, but I know for a lot of
39:02
Speaker 2: other people it was. It's hard when business decisions interfere
39:05
Speaker 2: with creative decisions. But yeah, like we were saying, I
39:08
Speaker 2: think it would have been a ratings thing as well.
39:10
Speaker 2: It just was struggling with ratings.
39:11
Speaker 1: And maybe if you get this show, maybe this show
39:13
Speaker 1: last seven or eight seasons. It's not as big of
39:16
Speaker 1: a hit. But the fact that it only lasted five
39:19
Speaker 1: and we disappears as a regular at the beginning, it
39:23
Speaker 1: like a couple of episodes in and two, but still
39:26
Speaker 1: a couple of episodes into season four. It's like, oh,
39:29
Speaker 1: you took out right before the end, yeah, to try
39:32
Speaker 1: and fix stuff. And now it feels like it was
39:35
Speaker 1: not anticlimactic again because I haven't seen anything, but it
39:37
Speaker 1: feels like it's like, wellhy couldn't you just keep her around?
39:39
Speaker 1: But they didn't know that at the time.
39:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it is probably more of a conversation
39:42
Speaker 2: for next week, because I believe it is a line
39:44
Speaker 2: in next week's episode, but they kind of just say, well,
39:46
Speaker 2: it's like obviously it's been established. In season three, in particular,
39:49
Speaker 2: we was having more and more confrontations with the I away.
39:53
Speaker 2: They weren't happy to what she was doing. Bretain wasn't
39:54
Speaker 2: hamby with what she was doing. So by you know,
39:57
Speaker 2: taking out that civilian and then putting in a military
40:01
Speaker 2: person with a science background in the form of Carter,
40:05
Speaker 2: you believe that as a as an in world thing,
40:07
Speaker 2: They're like, Okay, we're going to take out this negotiator
40:10
Speaker 2: because it turns out there's a lot more military like
40:13
Speaker 2: stuff going on in Atlantis.
40:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going.
40:15
Speaker 2: To take this this kernel who's got infinite amount of
40:20
Speaker 2: experience in the stargate like in Stargates, put her in
40:24
Speaker 2: Atlantis and she's but she's also going to play ball
40:26
Speaker 2: because she's in the United States military. So it all
40:29
Speaker 2: makes sense in world. It just sucks because I loved
40:31
Speaker 2: Weir as much as a character.
40:33
Speaker 1: And just on the other thing, we don't need to
40:35
Speaker 1: go into it because it'd be spoiler territory, but it's
40:38
Speaker 1: it was just such a Also at the end where
40:42
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, deep range sensors, we're seeing they've replicators.
40:45
Speaker 1: Some of their warships are taking off, that'll come into us.
40:47
Speaker 1: They heading to a race ship. Oh, I guess that
40:49
Speaker 1: thing worked. I'm like, oh, that's right, we did that,
40:51
Speaker 1: Like yeah, by that stage, I just thought it was
40:52
Speaker 1: a rescue mission that they didn't actually get to do it.
40:54
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't even thinking about the fact that they
40:56
Speaker 1: tried to change the programming in the Raith that, yeah,
40:59
Speaker 1: go and tie get sorry into the replicators to go
41:01
Speaker 1: and target the Wraith.
41:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were first introduced Oberoth, He's like, we
41:04
Speaker 2: will dispose of the Wraith at a time of our choosing. Yeah,
41:07
Speaker 2: and that's when we Beacon time was like, well, you
41:08
Speaker 2: know that's pretty arrogant, you know. Yeah, so yeah, it's
41:12
Speaker 2: good that that we also got that amount of it
41:14
Speaker 2: as well.
41:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, oh, they're heading off there now,
41:16
Speaker 1: so it's like, huh, I guess one problem with ours
41:18
Speaker 1: is going to go and take care of another problem.
41:19
Speaker 1: That's crazy, all right, And I'm like, well, I just
41:22
Speaker 1: know it as project.
41:22
Speaker 3: When we blew up the Arice ship, yeah, I destroyed it,
41:26
Speaker 3: and here we are, like only a couple of episodes ago,
41:28
Speaker 3: we're dissecting the facts that, well, we got some kind
41:33
Speaker 3: of resolution after episodes earlier in SG one them going yeah,
41:38
Speaker 3: we're just going to fire this.
41:39
Speaker 1: Off into the other side of the super Gate, and
41:42
Speaker 1: I mean it could destroy the all right, we won't know.
41:44
Speaker 1: And then it just popped up you know what, penultimate
41:47
Speaker 1: episode going yeah, that did kill the au Yeah, oh
41:49
Speaker 1: really yeah anyway, but I'm sorry, what the guys you
41:55
Speaker 1: were trying to beef up as being the be all
41:57
Speaker 1: end all bad guys are like antithesis of the Ancients,
42:00
Speaker 1: and seven or eight episodes before the end of the
42:03
Speaker 1: season you just go, yeah, I don't do like. I'm like,
42:06
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to do that. I don't
42:08
Speaker 1: expect to never hear of the Wraith or the replicators
42:11
Speaker 1: Pegas's version again over the next nearly two seasons of Atlantis.
42:16
Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh, I just got a weird hangover
42:19
Speaker 1: feeling that as a viewer, I wonder whether there were
42:21
Speaker 1: any people at the time going hang on, you never
42:23
Speaker 1: gave us much of a climax until you had to
42:25
Speaker 1: make a movie to kind of do that. In SG
42:27
Speaker 1: one with you r I and now you're going, oh, yeah,
42:30
Speaker 1: that thing happened that we wanted, where those guys are
42:32
Speaker 1: going to go and kill those other bad guys that
42:33
Speaker 1: we haven't really dealt with for a number of episodes.
42:36
Speaker 1: At this point, we're going to try and get a
42:40
Speaker 1: whole new, brand new bad guy that's going to see
42:42
Speaker 1: us through for seasons four and five. I did have
42:45
Speaker 1: some trivia away.
42:45
Speaker 2: Maybe it's for next week's episode that I've already done
42:47
Speaker 2: a little bit of prep work on. But it's like,
42:50
Speaker 2: we actually haven't seen any like our main replicator baddies
42:53
Speaker 2: since that Ronan episode at the start of last season.
42:58
Speaker 2: We're a big member the the Robert Cooper episode. Yeah,
43:03
Speaker 2: that was the last time we saw the Wraith, you
43:07
Speaker 2: know what. Yeah, like we didn't holy shit. I aside
43:10
Speaker 2: from obviously the kid the queen in that underwater episode,
43:13
Speaker 2: but she'd been stuck there for a thousand years.
43:15
Speaker 1: She doesn't know what's going on.
43:17
Speaker 2: That was the last time we saw like modern day
43:19
Speaker 2: Wraith that we're at war at. So that was like
43:21
Speaker 2: episode four of last season. We didn't see Wraith for
43:25
Speaker 2: the rest of the season.
43:26
Speaker 1: You know.
43:26
Speaker 2: Obviously there was there was the the guy in the
43:29
Speaker 2: prison with with Shepherd, you know that, that whole thing,
43:33
Speaker 2: But again, he was a very separate, sort of little
43:35
Speaker 2: guy on his own. But the actual wraith that we're
43:38
Speaker 2: at war with, we haven't seen them, like you know,
43:40
Speaker 2: the ancients were you know, sorry, the ancients. The replicators
43:44
Speaker 2: were introduced to us sort of a little bit after running,
43:46
Speaker 2: maybe one or two episodes after run, and so they've
43:49
Speaker 2: kind of a little over and then we've been dealing
43:52
Speaker 2: with Michael and yeah, all that kind of stuff. So
43:55
Speaker 2: there's been lots of individual raiths, but not like the big,
43:58
Speaker 2: big wraith guys.
43:59
Speaker 1: Well I'm just I'm not going to read. But in
44:02
Speaker 1: the little booklet here, which has got the synopses of
44:06
Speaker 1: the first four episodes on this page and includes four
44:09
Speaker 1: different pictures. Yeah, one of them of the beautiful Juell State,
44:14
Speaker 1: and then there's a picture of so I'm assuming that's
44:17
Speaker 1: from episode one. Then there's a picture of Zelenka and
44:21
Speaker 1: Shepherd as they did the jump. That's also from episode one.
44:24
Speaker 1: So that's the second photo. So there's a picture of
44:26
Speaker 1: Weir excellent. I'm going to assume it's from episode two,
44:29
Speaker 1: but it's the third picture. Then there's an episode of
44:32
Speaker 1: a wraith. So I'm like, oh, we're going to get
44:35
Speaker 1: something soon, mister generic wraith. I don't know. Look, it
44:41
Speaker 1: could be a it could be a four letter.
44:44
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's just generic. I don't know, that's just
44:46
Speaker 2: generic Lieutenant Wraith.
44:47
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. So we might be getting some
44:49
Speaker 1: Wraiths sooner. Now, just a quick thing am I to expect?
44:53
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the next episode we're talking about.
44:54
Speaker 1: That'll be episode three, which is called Reunion. But is
44:57
Speaker 1: the one after that? Episode four? Is that another Ronan episode?
45:01
Speaker 1: The episode four Ronan episodes coming back? No reunion? Reunion
45:06
Speaker 1: next week?
45:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, next week, that's the spoiler alert, that's the Ronan episode.
45:09
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm all that.
45:11
Speaker 2: I think I might have stuffed up. And it's it
45:13
Speaker 2: is not episode inst on every fourth episode. It's every
45:15
Speaker 2: third episode, right.
45:16
Speaker 1: Because we just got introduced in episode four, but it's everything.
45:19
Speaker 2: No. Runner was Runner was episode three of season two.
45:22
Speaker 1: You know what, I should just stop talking.
45:24
Speaker 2: I think I might have given you a bum steer
45:26
Speaker 2: when I use that when I use those numbers. Okay,
45:29
Speaker 2: it was season three that messed it up. So season
45:32
Speaker 2: two it was episode three called Runner. Season three was
45:35
Speaker 2: episode four called Setida. Yes, then it goes back and
45:38
Speaker 2: then it goes back, and I believe I believe season
45:41
Speaker 2: five Episode three is another Ronan episode as well. Okay,
45:44
Speaker 2: so yeah, next week is a is a Ronan episode
45:47
Speaker 2: before we go, though, I did want to mention when
45:51
Speaker 2: all the Assurans, like the replicators were frozen in we
45:55
Speaker 2: and like Ronan and Shepherd are running through everything, they
45:58
Speaker 2: hide mimes because he was too expensive to try and
46:01
Speaker 2: do a green screen because they're running through them.
46:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just hide a bunch of minds. It did
46:05
Speaker 1: look good.
46:06
Speaker 2: It looked really good. So a bunch of mine workers there.
46:10
Speaker 2: Taylor in charge of the city, that that's the thing
46:12
Speaker 2: that happened.
46:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like to give her something leader, and
46:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, so that okay, No, she's great. Yeah,
46:19
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's probably eighteen other people that are
46:22
Speaker 1: more hot. I'm not sure how like the.
46:25
Speaker 2: Rank and chain of command kind of thing works there,
46:27
Speaker 2: but yep, okay, fair enough. I should have grabbed the audio,
46:32
Speaker 2: but I believe well, you could probably tell me this,
46:37
Speaker 2: Shepherd says to Ronan.
46:38
Speaker 1: Hold up, Chewy.
46:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this the first time he's called him chewy?
46:41
Speaker 1: Second? Okay, all right, good for the second? Yeah? Cool?
46:45
Speaker 1: Oh one other things? Sorry, well, you going through the
46:48
Speaker 1: list still, I'm just thinking of that the math with
46:51
Speaker 1: Carter and doctor doctor Weird Keller, the guy that's with
46:58
Speaker 1: Carter on the base, doctor Lee, and when they sit
47:02
Speaker 1: there working out how they can search for Atlantis and
47:05
Speaker 1: just like they're just you know, mine boggingly overwhelming size
47:10
Speaker 1: of space and how long it would take to look
47:12
Speaker 1: or whatever the idea like, hey, well between here and here,
47:15
Speaker 1: if we're going to look, we could just do those
47:16
Speaker 1: mini jumps and like he didn't even say it, like
47:19
Speaker 1: it's impossibility, goes like, we'll need to do like about
47:21
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty thousand, it'll take us a couple
47:24
Speaker 1: of years, but I mean we can do it, you know,
47:26
Speaker 1: And then it was like yeah. And then when they
47:30
Speaker 1: were doing jumps in Apollo and they pop out and
47:34
Speaker 1: they've done eleven and Ellis is like anything like no,
47:38
Speaker 1: like even if we're doing mass searches over each of
47:41
Speaker 1: these eleven and there's just nothing, and then Lee going, well,
47:47
Speaker 1: space is very vast. He's like, you don't.
47:50
Speaker 2: Say to the commander of the Apollo day and I'm like,
47:53
Speaker 2: it flies between two frigging galaxies.
47:55
Speaker 1: I had to rewind that just to get I'm like
47:57
Speaker 1: I need to was Lee. But if it was if
47:59
Speaker 1: it is Rodney, but like condescending his hell, absolutely, that's
48:02
Speaker 1: what he's going for.
48:03
Speaker 2: He thought he was like dropping like knowledge and.
48:06
Speaker 1: Just like I know you're out here, but like it's
48:09
Speaker 1: even like isn't it crazy? It's even bigger than you think.
48:11
Speaker 2: He thought he was Gandalf in that moment, just being
48:13
Speaker 2: like so just like if he had a bed, make
48:17
Speaker 2: a Lord of the Rings references.
48:20
Speaker 1: I thought I'd give you one, dude.
48:22
Speaker 2: Wow, well thank you Ian McKellan.
48:24
Speaker 1: All you know, he's Magneto. What a treasure. One little
48:29
Speaker 1: thing I do want.
48:30
Speaker 2: To chip the episode for, though, I think as a
48:32
Speaker 2: missed opportunity is when Taylor was packing up we as desk.
48:39
Speaker 1: The what's the one pro? Is there a prop that
48:41
Speaker 1: you associate with Weir? The most? I can't remember. I
48:44
Speaker 1: know we've spoken about it.
48:45
Speaker 2: There's there's two. There's a big bowl on her desk
48:47
Speaker 2: with like four terra cotta people sitting at it, and
48:50
Speaker 2: that wasn't there. But the other thing is the urn
48:53
Speaker 2: that she she had she sprinkled her own ashes of
48:57
Speaker 2: the old lady version of her back and before where
49:00
Speaker 2: I Sleep. That was a gift from Taylor. That would
49:02
Speaker 2: have been the perfect What was that pocket watch? I
49:05
Speaker 2: don't think we've ever seen or heard of that pocket
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Speaker 2: watch before.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't remember. I'm I'm just now rethinking about
49:11
Speaker 1: how weird that. Like, if someone has to go, what
49:14
Speaker 1: is that, you go, uh, weird story, it's actually me.
49:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the empty urn that I had ashes
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Speaker 2: in with that. The actual cup thing itself is a
49:23
Speaker 2: gift from my friend. But then then a future version
49:26
Speaker 2: of myself who was from the past and blah blahlah blah,
49:29
Speaker 2: and then and then she died, so I cremated her
49:31
Speaker 2: and sprinkled her ashes, but then left the empty urn
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Speaker 2: on my desk. So there's probably still remnants in there.
49:36
Speaker 1: Of old everywhere. No idea of the me.
49:41
Speaker 2: That used to masturbate with m ZPMs.
49:43
Speaker 1: Just several different versions of me everywhere. No, I don't.
49:48
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the watch, but it would
49:49
Speaker 1: have been nice, so especially being Taylor, like you said, yeah,
49:51
Speaker 1: first blit.
49:52
Speaker 2: Second, I was like, oh, did they maybe bring that
49:54
Speaker 2: up in that real world episode where she went crazy,
49:57
Speaker 2: like where the replicators had taken over her mind and
50:01
Speaker 2: she was crazy in the mental institution with.
50:03
Speaker 1: With maybe a point was spinning total for me to
50:10
Speaker 1: make a Christopher Nolan reference. How dare you? After I
50:13
Speaker 1: just gave you that it was a long comment, put
50:16
Speaker 1: it on.
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Speaker 2: Olive branch out there, and then you slap me in
50:19
Speaker 2: the face with a Nolan reference?
50:20
Speaker 1: How dare you? I should have invited you at the
50:24
Speaker 1: start of the week, you know, in our in our face,
50:27
Speaker 1: we don't have an IMAX screen, but we do a
50:29
Speaker 1: new one just down the road in your house. We
50:31
Speaker 1: don't have an I screen. Someone's done all right early days.
50:34
Speaker 1: We just opened up one down the Gold Coast and
50:37
Speaker 1: here I'm going, damn it. Last year they were doing
50:40
Speaker 1: tenth anniversary screenings of Interstellar in IMAX and I mean people, people,
50:45
Speaker 1: people liking it to a religious experience, Matthew, And I'm like,
50:48
Speaker 1: people also voted for Trump. So what do you say? Man?
50:51
Speaker 1: And uh No. At the beginning of the week, just Monday,
50:54
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday eight forty five pm screenings too. It's
50:58
Speaker 1: like it was a long haul, especially when I've got
50:59
Speaker 1: to drive, I can do early morning radio. I'm doing
51:01
Speaker 1: my MAX screenings of Interstellar, and I'm like, I got
51:04
Speaker 1: to do it. Look, I want to do it.
51:06
Speaker 2: I'm on holidays until the thirteenth, and I still would
51:09
Speaker 2: have been busy if it had happened during that time.
51:11
Speaker 1: No, well yeah, and that's why you were You weren't
51:14
Speaker 1: in luck because it was it was thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth.
51:18
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, So.
51:20
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a convince of audio. I have no
51:24
Speaker 2: idea what this first one is, but that's right. I
51:26
Speaker 2: was going to use this like I wish I'd had
51:27
Speaker 2: this piece of audio for any time, you know, Brendan
51:31
Speaker 2: was annoying me whatever, you know things. I can just
51:33
Speaker 2: use this one.
51:34
Speaker 1: I get it.
51:35
Speaker 2: It's difficult million one and its blah blah blah.
51:38
Speaker 1: It's all science.
51:39
Speaker 2: Shut up, it's fine, it's fine, blah blah blah. I
51:41
Speaker 2: get it.
51:41
Speaker 1: I get it, all right, And so we will be
51:43
Speaker 1: there next week to talk about Ourroonan episode reunion. But
51:47
Speaker 1: I'm just saying all that now so that we can
51:49
Speaker 1: go out on this other one, which do you want
51:51
Speaker 1: to say? What? It's no, not at all, It's called
51:54
Speaker 1: absolutely not no. Just go out on whatever audio this
51:58
Speaker 1: I mean. I I've seen the episode. I don't know
52:02
Speaker 1: what the name of.
52:03
Speaker 2: This file really, I've literally quoted, so do anyone listening.
52:08
Speaker 2: I've named the file the quote that is said in
52:11
Speaker 2: the episode. It's quite a poignant moment in this episode,
52:14
Speaker 2: and a memory of it.
52:15
Speaker 1: I don't think so. All right, we'll see you next week.
52:19
Speaker 1: Nice kissing, Now, hang on, I'm coming back. What was that?
52:24
Speaker 2: Remember when they were landing Atlantis and he's like kissing
52:28
Speaker 2: like a leaf kissing a pond, and then they smashed
52:30
Speaker 2: in the water and he's like.
52:32
Speaker 1: Like but then like they land I'm like, yeah, you've
52:37
Speaker 1: like that's bullshit. And then Carter been like, hey, is
52:39
Speaker 1: everything now? I think real good? And she's like, Shepherd,
52:42
Speaker 1: the city has landed. Excellent landing. Well, yeah, sure they're alive.
52:48
Speaker 1: But no it it was not and I'm really looking
52:51
Speaker 1: forward to it. Maybe we'll never we never hear of
52:53
Speaker 1: it again. But when they're like, oh, except for like
52:55
Speaker 1: the giant potentially dangerous or poisonous lizard or something or
53:01
Speaker 1: snake creature that's on the land, the city's the planet's fine.
53:05
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, I don't think we exploded it.
53:07
Speaker 1: Damn it. I want to go to add a conduct
53:09
Speaker 1: or some shit. I want to know.
53:11
Speaker 2: I want there to be a giant tidal wave that
53:14
Speaker 2: was created by landing, just going all the way around
53:17
Speaker 2: the planet, and in six months time it's come all
53:20
Speaker 2: the way back around and it's about to drown them.
53:22
Speaker 1: Well that would be a great problem for episode two
53:24
Speaker 1: or season five. Yeah, yeah, it's not happening, is it. No,
53:28
Speaker 1: damn it.
53:28
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53:37
Speaker 2: Get into it now before it's too late.