Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / Why Being a Chef is the Exception to the Rule Ep. 73
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- 0:00Hello Chefs, this is Chefs PSA Podcast.
- 0:02I'm your host Andrea Netterra. On today's episode we're going
- 0:05to talk about how to become the exception to the rule.
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- 1:11brief update. I've decided I am going to write
- 1:14another book. I know I've talked about it and
- 1:16I've hinted at it, but what I'm going to do is I'm going to
- 1:18write a sequel to the Bad Sue Good Chef book.
- 1:22Right now I'm tentatively calling it bad Chefs and bad
- 1:25Cooks, but the idea is basically a new cook going into a kitchen
- 1:30and what it's like to be the FNGAKA, the fucking new guy or
- 1:34the New Girl, the FNG. If you don't know that slang,
- 1:36now you know it. FNG, the fucking new person, guy
- 1:39or girl, whatever. I think it'd be fun.
- 1:41I haven't written in a while. I've been wanting to write
- 1:43another book, and I think now's the time.
- 1:45I get a lot of people that really enjoyed the Bad Soup Good
- 1:48Chef book. Go get it.
- 1:49Go to chefspsa.com, get your copy.
- 1:52It's Christmas season. Now's the time to be getting all
- 1:55my books, one for every single person in your kitchen.
- 1:59But we digress. I think I'm going to write this
- 2:01book. I started writing it the other
- 2:02day. I designed the cover.
- 2:04I wanted to initially do it like a comic book, but I put up a
- 2:08poll on my Instagram page the other day with a new cover that
- 2:11I liked and it was like 30% liked it.
- 2:14A lot of people didn't. It's not a high enough percent
- 2:17for me to want to go the comic book direction.
- 2:19So I think I'm going to switch it up and just go back to the
- 2:21conversational style narrative. And maybe a comic book is not in
- 2:25the cards right now, but maybe later on.
- 2:26I do want to do a comic book as if you follow Chef's PSA.
- 2:29You know, I like comics. If nothing else, that it could
- 2:32illustrate the point using obvious examples that are
- 2:35sometimes a little. There's sometimes a little bit
- 2:38of nuance in there and people don't fully get the chef's PSA.
- 2:41But when I put it in the comics, sometimes it clicks.
- 2:43Anyway, I hope you all like the comics.
- 2:45As I said, if you want to support the show, go get the
- 2:47books. I have the free ebooks there as
- 2:48well. Go get some merch.
- 2:50It's Christmas season coming up and you could get lots of
- 2:53chef's, PSA merch like hats, T-shirts, hoodies.
- 2:57It is hoodie weather. Get yourself a journal.
- 2:59Write shit down. Get yourself a book, get
- 3:02smarter, listen to it. If you don't like reading, read
- 3:05with your ears. All the books are in audio,
- 3:08multiple languages, Spanish, English, Italian, ebook and so
- 3:12on. Something else that I'm working
- 3:13on, I have to teach myself how to do it.
- 3:16But as a lot of you know I am fascinated by a is all those
- 3:20comic images that you see I create using AI image
- 3:23generation. And I've been helping a lot of
- 3:26my chef friends to use AI for their work in particular like
- 3:31looking at food cost or writing menus for proofreading,
- 3:34spelling, grammar, analyzing menus to make sure they're
- 3:39they're priced accordingly. And so anyway I'm thinking of
- 3:41making some GPTS myself for chefs.
- 3:44So I don't know if I'm going to do that.
- 3:46I got to figure it out, but it's something new that I could learn
- 3:48how to do. And I as if you follow the
- 3:49podcast you understand that I like learning and doing new
- 3:52things. So I may create some GPTS myself
- 3:56for chefs that would help them run their business better.
- 3:59Everything from menu analytics to food cost management and some
- 4:05more ideas. I don't know, who knows?
- 4:06We will see. But we digress.
- 4:08Take a shot. Let's talk about being the
- 4:10exception to the rule. Now, this is something I talk
- 4:12about often. There are rules, and there are
- 4:15exceptions to the rule. An exception doesn't disprove
- 4:18the rule. For example, you could say all
- 4:21birds fly. The exception to the rule may be
- 4:23an ostrich. Ostriches don't fly, so that's
- 4:25an exception to the rule. You could say all mammals give
- 4:28birth to live young, with the exception of platypuses.
- 4:32They lay eggs. That's an exception to the rule.
- 4:34But the exception doesn't disprove the rule in most cases.
- 4:37The reason there's a rule is because 99% of the time, that's
- 4:41going to be what it is now, being the exception to the rule,
- 4:44which all of you already are. You listen to Chef's PSA
- 4:47podcast, making you the exception to the rule, meaning
- 4:51you're getting the knowledge that a lot of other people are
- 4:53not. You're thinking differently if
- 4:56you have an open mind, you're taking in new ideas.
- 4:58Some of them you agree with, some of them you don't, but
- 5:00nonetheless, you can't unhear them.
- 5:02And maybe there's a subtle shift in your perception.
- 5:04Being at the right place at the right time for the right
- 5:06experience, like listening to this podcast, makes you the
- 5:09exception to the rule. I choose to live my life as the
- 5:12exception to the rule because that's where the fun is.
- 5:15Being the exception to the rule is what makes someone great, and
- 5:17that's what I want to talk about today.
- 5:19It's an interesting thing, becoming a chef.
- 5:21A ton of people go to culinary school.
- 5:25And if the amount of people that go to culinary school, many of
- 5:27them drop out. And of those that drop out, many
- 5:30go into the industry and leave after the first year because
- 5:32they find out it's not what they wanted.
- 5:34And of those that stick it through, even fewer become sous
- 5:37chefs. Let's just say a kitchen has
- 5:39four or five sous chefs in it, a big kitchen, and 100 cooks.
- 5:42Of those four or five sous chefs, maybe only one or two
- 5:46will become the executive sous chef.
- 5:47And of those two that become the executive sous chef, only one
- 5:51may become an executive chef. So if we were using that as an
- 5:54example, that is the exception to the rule.
- 5:56The executive chef is the exception to the rule for the
- 5:59executive sous chefs, and the sous chefs are the exception to
- 6:03the rule for the cooks and so on and so forth.
- 6:05The cook that remained in the industry is the exception to the
- 6:07rule, and the cook that made it all the way and beat the game is
- 6:10truly the exception to the rule. It's something to think about.
- 6:13So how are you going to become the exception to the rule?
- 6:16Not everyone's going to do it. And that's the sad reality of
- 6:19this business. A lot of people are going to get
- 6:20in and they realize immediately it's not for them and they want
- 6:24to find a way out. Cooking really high end food is
- 6:27the exception to the rule. Not every restaurant is like
- 6:29that. The majority of restaurants are
- 6:31busy, casual restaurants and that's not bad.
- 6:34That's just what it is. There's nothing wrong with that.
- 6:37Those restaurants need to make money, they need to feed people
- 6:39and they all serve a purpose. So when people look at really
- 6:41high end restaurants and think that all food is that way.
- 6:44So you go to culinary school because you saw someone on TV or
- 6:47you saw an episode of Chef's Table and you think that's what
- 6:50you're going to be cooking in a restaurant when you graduate or
- 6:52that's the way all chefs cook. It's not.
- 6:54It is the exception to the rule. I saw a meme today.
- 6:57It was like the cook that shows up on time, doesn't complain,
- 7:01knows how to cook, never calls off.
- 7:03It was like that Matthew McConaughey, It's a wuzzy, it's
- 7:06a wuzzy, it's a fairy dust. It doesn't exist.
- 7:08It's like, yeah, that's true, those cooks are so hard to come
- 7:11by, but when you are that person, all the doors open for
- 7:14you. But acting as the exception to
- 7:16the rules sometimes is a double edged sword.
- 7:17Because being the exception to the rule doesn't mean having a
- 7:20holier than thou attitude or you're above the work.
- 7:23You have to be willing to work harder, do more because the
- 7:27exception to the rule could also be used as a negative.
- 7:30Everyone cleans the exception to the rule doesn't because they're
- 7:33lazy, right? So it's a double edged sword.
- 7:35So the exception to the rule doesn't always mean a good or
- 7:38bad thing, it's just providing A-frame of reference versus
- 7:41something else. So while I was preparing for
- 7:43this podcast, I started reading some stats that were kind of
- 7:46shocking, just to illustrate the point of how difficult it is to
- 7:49move up in this business. In the United States alone,
- 7:52there are approximately 400,000 plenary students enrolled in
- 7:56culinary school or some sort of culinary training, 400,000
- 7:59culinary students right now. And the average graduation rate
- 8:02for culinary students is about 63%.
- 8:05And that's the average of all the different culinary schools
- 8:08and colleges in the US at about a 6364% graduation rate across
- 8:14the United States. Think about how many of those
- 8:16leave the industry within the first year.
- 8:18The other fascinating stat is there's about 170,000 executive
- 8:23chef jobs in the United States. Roughly, it's It's kind of hard
- 8:27to track because an executive chef is not the same everywhere.
- 8:30But for the sake of context, there's 170,000 executive chef
- 8:34jobs in the United States. That means that this year there
- 8:38are currently more students enrolled in culinary school than
- 8:41there are chef positions, head chef positions available for
- 8:45them. And then you think about, you
- 8:46know, the the the top and exclusive restaurants, whether
- 8:50this is a James Beard award-winning chef or food and
- 8:52wine, Best New Chef or a Michelin starred place and how
- 8:56few of those exist in a market. Let's use Michelin as an
- 8:59example. There's approximately 200, give
- 9:02or take, Michelin starred restaurants in the United
- 9:05States. That means let's say there's
- 9:06170,000 executive chef jobs and only two hundred of those are in
- 9:11Michelin starred restaurants. So the chances of becoming the
- 9:16chef at a Michelin starred place is it's not even 1%.
- 9:20It's less than a percent, it's point 1%.
- 9:23That's the odds of becoming that.
- 9:25And you think about the amount of people that are enrolled in
- 9:27culinary school and how that filters out now.
- 9:29I'm not saying this to make anyone feel disenfranchised with
- 9:33the industry, but I think it's important to understand that
- 9:36now, if you look at Chef's PSA podcast, one of the things that
- 9:39I always talk about is be the best cook.
- 9:42Go work in great kitchens, get a mentor.
- 9:45It's better to be the worst cook in the best kitchen than the
- 9:47best cook in the worst kitchen. And the reason I say all that is
- 9:50because it does start to create your mindset of becoming the
- 9:53exception to the rule because people aren't taking on the
- 9:55difficult work. Like I'll do post.
- 9:57Don't be afraid of the hard work.
- 9:59Be the person that shows up early.
- 10:00Be the person that's responsible.
- 10:02Don't think you're fooling people with bullshit lies on the
- 10:04line. Take opportunities when other
- 10:07people are saying no. Be willing to take the risk.
- 10:10Be willing to put yourself out there.
- 10:11Go out and network. Meet people.
- 10:13Make friends. Be nice.
- 10:15Don't burn bridges. Because even if you do 50% of
- 10:18those things, you're already putting yourself in a category
- 10:22where most likely you'll become a chef.
- 10:24And if you do all those things, you're putting yourself in a
- 10:26category where you're going to become a world class chef
- 10:29becoming the exception to the rule.
- 10:31I've said many times, I think it's really important to get a
- 10:33mentor, plan out your career path.
- 10:36Don't waste time working in kitchens that you don't aspire
- 10:39to run. If you don't want to work as the
- 10:41executive chef in the kitchen that you're in now and and you
- 10:44aspire to work in something different than why are you
- 10:46there? Because the only thing you're
- 10:47learning is how to run that type of kitchen.
- 10:49And the longer you're in that kitchen hoping someone's going
- 10:52to rescue you, the more difficult it will be every
- 10:54single day to leave that kitchen and go work in the type of
- 10:57kitchen you want to be in. I've said it before, no one's
- 11:00coming to save you. You have to save yourself,
- 11:01create your own path and be the exception.
- 11:04And so we start to think about, you know, I give out some #63%
- 11:08of the students graduate. Fewer become sous chefs, many of
- 11:11them leave. Even fewer sous chefs become
- 11:13executive chefs. So why is that?
- 11:15Why do people leave? What causes that?
- 11:17Well, COVID was basically a great shake up for the industry
- 11:22because it allowed people to go discover if they were good at
- 11:25something else. It's like a conical sieve in
- 11:28positions. There's a lot of people at the
- 11:30beginning and the further and further and further you get down
- 11:33to the bottom, the more difficult to it is to get
- 11:35through. So competition is there.
- 11:38You can't be the person that's not out hustling the other cooks
- 11:41or the person that's not out hustling the other sous chefs or
- 11:44so on. You have to be the one that
- 11:46leaves no doubt in anyone's mind that you are the person for the
- 11:49job. The other difficulty is there's
- 11:51the skill development that comes with becoming a chef.
- 11:54You have to go from zero not knowing anything, being a
- 11:56completely green cook, to all of a sudden being the type of chef
- 12:00and cook that can execute on a multitude of different skills.
- 12:04Butchering, sauteing, braising, cooking methods, sauce, work,
- 12:07product, ID, knowing what things are on top of that, knowing how
- 12:11to lead people deal with mental stress and all the other things
- 12:14that go with working in a kitchen, having the physical
- 12:18stamina to be on your feet all day with the turning and bending
- 12:22and the crouching and the moving and oh don't forget the heat,
- 12:25how could you, how could you forget about the heat?
- 12:27Then there's the limiting. Then there's the limited
- 12:30opportunities for advancement. And sometimes you have to leave
- 12:32a job to get promoted because you might be ready, but there's
- 12:35just no positions for you. So what are you going to do?
- 12:38Wait two or three years for the person above you to leave?
- 12:41Maybe they don't leave and you're still there waiting when
- 12:43you can get the job. Now it's a tough decision,
- 12:46something that you have to make. There's no same answer for
- 12:49everybody. I don't know your personal life
- 12:51situation. Maybe you do need to stay there
- 12:53for medical reasons, benefits. It's close proximity to home.
- 12:57I don't know, but maybe you have the means to leave and travel
- 13:00and go out and take the opportunity because you are
- 13:02ready and you just don't have the opportunity there where
- 13:05you're at. Think about that.
- 13:06A lot of people are ready and will never get promoted just
- 13:09because they're afraid to leave. It's a sad reality of our
- 13:11industry. On top of that, there's
- 13:12financial constraints. You know, it's very rare that
- 13:15you find someone saying that they're going to go become a
- 13:17chef because they could make really great money, right?
- 13:20Or a cook, whatever the case might be.
- 13:22We're not necessarily known for being one of the highest paying
- 13:25industries out there. As a matter of fact, I heard the
- 13:28other day that being a plumber and electrician right now is
- 13:31getting you close to 200,000 a year in Austin where I live,
- 13:34because of the amount of development that's there.
- 13:36And not a lot of people have those skills anymore.
- 13:38So go figure. Maybe being a cook will one day
- 13:40start paying that when no one remembers how to cook anymore.
- 13:43You're dealing with the work life balance.
- 13:45A lot of people don't like that long hours.
- 13:47I don't get to see people. I end up missing a lot of family
- 13:50events or social events with friends.
- 13:53I don't have a social life. Girlfriend, boyfriend is always
- 13:56breaking up with me, Whatever, whatever, right?
- 13:58We've all gone through it. It makes it tough to show up, to
- 14:00want to be the exception to the rule when you're dealing with
- 14:03all this difficulty outside of work.
- 14:05Then there's the people that have 0 presence and zero
- 14:07network. They're phenomenal chefs,
- 14:09phenomenal cooks, totally ready, but no one knows who they are.
- 14:11They don't have a network. And as they say, it's not what
- 14:14you know. Sometimes it's who you know.
- 14:15Someone's picking up the phone and making phone calls and
- 14:17saying, hey, I got a chef job for you and every single
- 14:20opportunity is open because people know you where there's
- 14:24people out there that are more qualified than you and their
- 14:26phones and their phones don't ring because no one knows them.
- 14:28Sad reality. I was talking to someone the
- 14:30other day we were discussing social media and I I personally
- 14:33am obviously, I'm a believer in social media and putting
- 14:36yourself out there and I think it gives you an advantage as a
- 14:39chef and I'll tell you why. I'm just going to touch on this.
- 14:41I know this is not fully on the subject, but if you're on a
- 14:43cooking interview and maybe it's not your best day, but people
- 14:46like, I know they can make good food.
- 14:48I've seen their social media or I've had their food before at a
- 14:52certain event, or I know them. They're a good friend, trust me.
- 14:54You got my word. Maybe they had an off day.
- 14:56If people know who you are and you have a social network and a
- 14:59presence on social media, people start looking for you.
- 15:03I know I've looked at people's social profiles before.
- 15:05I hire them just to see the type of food that they're making so I
- 15:08could kind of get an understanding of who they are.
- 15:10It's important to have a profile out there.
- 15:12It's your online resume. It tells an employer everything
- 15:15about you as opposed to the person who's a complete ghost.
- 15:18They might have fewer opportunities available to them.
- 15:21Well anyway, point being today is act as the exception to the
- 15:24rule and all the opportunities are going to open up for you.
- 15:27If you act as the rule, fewer opportunities are going to open.
- 15:30Actually, I want to point out a couple of last things.
- 15:32If you look at the most successful chefs out there right
- 15:35now and, you know, name them household names, the Thomas
- 15:38Kellers. The Ferran Audreys.
- 15:40The Renee Rezepi. The Grant Dacquetts of the
- 15:42world, the Dominic Kren, you'll notice that they are the
- 15:45exception to the rule. They're not copying anyone.
- 15:47They're marching to the beat of their own drum.
- 15:49They're thinking different. They do things differently.
- 15:52They're the trendsetter, not necessarily the trend follower.
- 15:55That's what makes them great. Every successful chef, the tippy
- 15:59top of the industry is usually not always, but for the most
- 16:02part. Gordon Ramsay was the first
- 16:04person to do that Hell's Kitchen style show.
- 16:06Everyone copied that. You know, it's the innovators.
- 16:08When you think like everyone else and you act like everyone
- 16:11else, you end up just like everyone else.
- 16:13And that's not a good place to be all the time.
- 16:15And I'll share this with you. Just I believe that thinking
- 16:18abstractly and looking at things from different perspectives is
- 16:21my superpower. I play these brain games every
- 16:24morning, and I've been playing them since I think, 2010.
- 16:27So for 13 years I play games on Lumosity.
- 16:31They're not a sponsor, But anyway, if you're interested in
- 16:33that lumosity.com, I play these puzzles every single morning
- 16:38with my morning coffee. It's been my routine for years
- 16:41and one day it spit out data for me.
- 16:43After analyzing thousands of games that I played and how I
- 16:48score and the results, it said I think and make decisions.
- 16:52Most like people who work in scientific engineering jobs.
- 16:56It said I was most aligned to that and I I found that very
- 16:59interesting. Now as a complete 180.
- 17:02Opposite it said I think least like people who work in culinary
- 17:07arts. Now what's interesting about
- 17:09that is it had no idea what I did for a living, but it was
- 17:13saying that the thing that I do professionally, day in and day
- 17:16out was how I process information least like that
- 17:20group, and I think like this group over here of engineers and
- 17:23mathematicians. I found that fascinating because
- 17:27of all the things that could have said that I'm least like it
- 17:29said culinary arts. And if anything I took that to
- 17:32be an indicator of why I've been successful in the culinary arts
- 17:36is because I always thought differently from everyone else.
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