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Best of Ian Furness 10/2 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. It's a Friday. It's a football Friday. Washington
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  Speaker 2: State Beef Commission football Friday. And our guy Greg Cosell
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  Speaker 2: is here with us right now to break down the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks and the winless Chargers. Not of San Diego, but
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  Speaker 2: of Los Angeles, California. He's with us. Hello, Greg. How
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 3: Ian, what's happening, my man?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, a lot's going on out here in
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk land, sir. You know, it's funny in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: you do this with a few other shows around the
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  Speaker 2: country and national shows. You lose one game, usually there's
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  Speaker 2: panic in the streets. There wasn't really that last week
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  Speaker 2: with the Seahawks losing to the Commanders. I think most
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  Speaker 2: people looked at it and said, well, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you turn the ball over all those times and throw
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  Speaker 2: a pick six, bad things are probably going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: But before we move on to the Chargers, any impressions
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  Speaker 2: that you were left with with that game at Washington
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  Speaker 2: for Seattle?
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  Speaker 3: It was an odd game. Because the Seahawks defense played well.
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  Speaker 3: They only gave up about 250 yards of total offense.
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  Speaker 3: The commanders could not run the ball at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously they had that 19-yard run, which helped put the
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  Speaker 3: game away. But that's a different part of the game.
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  Speaker 3: That's a whole different feeling. But throughout the game, the
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  Speaker 3: commanders couldn't run the ball. Let's give Mario to credit.
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  Speaker 4: He made a.
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  Speaker 3: Couple of really good throws. The touchdown to Burks was
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  Speaker 3: a really good throw. obviously the touchdown to McLaurin, you know,
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  Speaker 3: those things happen. Job was impressed, man. And he got beat.
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  Speaker 3: Those things do happen. Um, but overall, I didn't think
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  Speaker 3: the defense played poorly at all. Um, and I thought the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I thought Murphy was real strong inside in the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Reed had some dominant snaps.
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  Speaker 4: In the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Um, Williams, as always, I can remember one pass rush.
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  Speaker 3: He had sack where he literally just walked Allegretti right
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  Speaker 3: back into the pocket. Uh, you know, as if he
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  Speaker 3: was going against a ninth grader, um, But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and offensively, the one thing that needs to get worked on,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say fixed because it's week three,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And as you know, and you sort of
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  Speaker 3: started off by saying this, believe me, I'm in the
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia area, and you would think after the game on
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  Speaker 3: Monday night that the Eagles, you know, are getting ready
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  Speaker 3: to go 2-15. But the one thing that does need
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  Speaker 3: work clearly is the run game. because obviously Darnold in
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  Speaker 3: a close game dropped back, what, 46 times?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the way they want to play. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: other than the Medrano interception return for a touchdown, which
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  Speaker 3: he clearly didn't see him, I thought Darnold played really well.
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  Speaker 3: He threw the ball well. He moves well. He's a
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  Speaker 3: big physical athlete with a big arm. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: got asked this week on the show, what's wrong with
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  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold? And I'm like, what? You know, what are
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  Speaker 3: we talking about here? You know, I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Um, so, so really, I think the run
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  Speaker 3: game is something that I'm sure they know that I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying anything that is news. Um, and obviously once
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  Speaker 3: price fumbled, I felt like we didn't see him for
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  Speaker 3: quite a while. And that's, we know the obvious reason
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  Speaker 3: for that. Uh, but, um, uh, look, even Holani got
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  Speaker 3: a snap as a runner on first down. I, that
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  Speaker 3: probably was not in the original game plan. So, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, other than that, you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: there's anything to be worried about. Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: So let me guess my old friend, my own, my
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  Speaker 2: old coworker down in Portland, was that Colin Coward asking about, uh,
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong with Sam Darnold?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: God, I nailed it.
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  Speaker 6: Huh?
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  Speaker 2: How about that? Just, you work with a guy for
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  Speaker 2: five years, you know, those things.
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  Speaker 3: I even said in relation to something else, not about Darnold.
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  Speaker 3: And actually Colin loves Darnold, by the way, as you
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  Speaker 3: probably know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, uh, you know, cause Colin, you know, he's not in, in, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Southern California anymore. He moved to Chicago, but, uh, he's
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  Speaker 3: a big USC guy. So, I mean, he knows Darnold.
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  Speaker 3: He loves Darnold. Um, But the point I'm making is
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  Speaker 3: all this week because of the Drake Mays situation. And
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  Speaker 3: I had to sort of like let people know that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because here's the way people think about things.
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  Speaker 3: When the team wins, the quarterback's great. And when the
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  Speaker 3: team loses, the quarterback stinks. And, you know, with what
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  Speaker 3: I do, that is so far from the truth. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I watch every play and that's not the way things are.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say
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  Speaker 3: someone like Drake May is playing great football, but people
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  Speaker 3: act like Drake May is playing so bad that he
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't even be out there. And that's just not the
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  Speaker 3: way it is. You know, when you watch every play,
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  Speaker 3: you see things so differently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to make rash judgments after a couple,
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  Speaker 2: three games and blanket statements, which I'll probably do here
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  Speaker 2: in a second with the Chargers before I get to them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, like Justin Herbert. Obviously, Justin
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  Speaker 3: Herbert stinks. We don't need to say anything else. That's
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  Speaker 3: the end of that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's awful, so let's move on. No, I was
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  Speaker 2: going to bring up just Jadarian Price, and we'll be
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  Speaker 2: able to start going down the road of Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks offense against the Chargers, but let me
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  Speaker 2: just specifically ask about Jadarian Price. You mentioned he got benched.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt he got benched. He's had two fumbles
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  Speaker 2: in two weeks, so he does get benched. comes back,
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  Speaker 2: now he's shaken up. This is always, as we have
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  Speaker 2: this conversation with Greg, we find out about 40 minutes
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  Speaker 2: or so afterwards what the status is for guys, but
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  Speaker 2: he was limited, now he didn't practice. We're trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out if they're just managing it. Who knows? We'll
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  Speaker 2: find out later whether he's going to play this week
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  Speaker 2: against the Chargers. In the limited carries that you have
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  Speaker 2: seen him so far, he's had 119 carries, no, 28
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  Speaker 2: carries for 119 yards so far. I believe it is
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  Speaker 2: this season. So it's limited sample size. What have you
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  Speaker 2: seen from Seattle's rookie running back?
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  Speaker 3: I think he's looked good. I mean, look, he started
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  Speaker 3: the game this week with an 11-yard run outside zone
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  Speaker 3: where he had a nice, sharp cutback. I'm sure you
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  Speaker 3: remember the play. You know, he's looked good, but obviously
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  Speaker 3: you cannot put the ball on the ground. And there's
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  Speaker 3: no question that in the NFL– that's going to get
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  Speaker 3: you benched. If you're a running back, you cannot put
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  Speaker 3: the ball on the ground. Now, I tried to figure out,
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  Speaker 3: watching the coaching tape, what caused that fumble. And quite frankly,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell, to be honest with you, because it
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  Speaker 3: just seemed, you know, I just couldn't get a feel
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  Speaker 3: for what happened. But the bottom line is you can't
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  Speaker 3: do that. So he's going to get more chances. They're
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  Speaker 3: not going to, you know, put him on the bench
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  Speaker 3: and leave him there. And if he's injured, maybe he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't play this week. We don't know that, as you said,
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  Speaker 3: until the injury report comes out and the designations do
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  Speaker 3: come out. but he's going to get another chance. He
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  Speaker 3: was a first-round pick. They obviously liked him. He's got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of skills. He's a good back. But now
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  Speaker 3: it's the transition to the NFL. You've got to hold
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  Speaker 3: on to the football. There's nothing more to be said
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  Speaker 3: about those kinds of things other than you've got to
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  Speaker 3: hold on to the ball. It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know you know Ross Tucker. Ross comes
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  Speaker 2: on with us on Thursdays, and we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: that with him yesterday, and he was kind of saying
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. He said the problem now is that
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  Speaker 2: you get that reputation every– You know, every team makes
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  Speaker 2: a concerted effort to go after the ball more. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to earn the trust back of your coach and
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  Speaker 2: your teammates. And it's a trust thing. And he'll get
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  Speaker 2: it back. And like you say, he's too talented to
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  Speaker 2: keep him on the bench. They don't have other options.
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  Speaker 2: Charbonnet is probably two weeks away still from coming back.
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  Speaker 2: So they're going to have to play him. And, you know, guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the hard thing for him is everyone's looking
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  Speaker 2: around here going, well, it's Price and they could have
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  Speaker 2: kept Walker. And look what Walker's doing in Kansas City
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny you say that because they
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  Speaker 3: knew Charbonnet was going to be back probably after four
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  Speaker 3: weeks of this season. and they still drafted Price. So
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  Speaker 3: they're telling you that Charbonnet is not a feature back.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have to guess that, Ian. They told you that.
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  Speaker 3: So there's no real interpretation here. But the issue when
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  Speaker 3: young backs fumble, and I learned this from my good
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  Speaker 3: buddy Merrill Hodge, and I love the way he said it,
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  Speaker 3: what happens is you become a ball carrier rather than
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  Speaker 3: a runner. And I think people can make that distinction.
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  Speaker 3: You start to worry about holding onto the ball, whether
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  Speaker 3: that rather than letting your instincts take over as a runner.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have to work yourself through that. And
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  Speaker 3: the only way to work yourself through that is to
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  Speaker 3: get the ball. But then the coaches, and as you said,
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  Speaker 3: you nailed it, then your coaches and teammates have to
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  Speaker 3: have trust in you that you can do the job.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell joining us. Greg, we'll get to the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: offense because that's what everybody's talking about is the Chargers offense.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, Justin Herbert, all that. Let's just stay with
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle offense, whether it's Price or it's Darnold, whoever
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  Speaker 2: it is. Against a Chargers defense, I find it interesting.
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  Speaker 2: They're As much criticism as the Chargers offense is getting
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  Speaker 2: in the 0-3 start, I'm looking through here. The defense
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  Speaker 2: is giving up 25 points a game. None of their
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  Speaker 2: numbers look great. Khalil Mack does have a couple sacks.
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  Speaker 2: He's still doing his thing. And Genesis Smith has a
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  Speaker 2: couple picks. But give us a feel for what we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see with that Chargers defense coming up on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, new coordinator. Jesse Minter's gone. Jesse Minter, one of
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  Speaker 3: the smartest young defensive minds in the game. New coordinator
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  Speaker 3: who's trying to do a lot of the same things
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  Speaker 3: But then, you know, what you just don't know, and
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  Speaker 3: I certainly can't speak to this in any great detail,
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  Speaker 3: and no one can because we're not in their meetings,
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  Speaker 3: but then what you get is the specific situation play calls.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you get. In other words, if you're staying
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  Speaker 3: with the same methodology and the same general concepts in
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  Speaker 3: your defense, which I believe they are, then it comes
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  Speaker 3: down to the specific play calls in given games, and
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  Speaker 3: that's where the difference lies. And, you know, obviously I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that difference. It's not as if I'm sitting
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  Speaker 3: and charting and going back to last year and charting
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  Speaker 3: every Jesse Minter play call and then every play call
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  Speaker 3: by the new coordinator. Um, but essentially if you want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about them a little more generally, they play
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  Speaker 3: a ton of big nickel because Derwin James is one
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  Speaker 3: of those unique athletes, you know, a lot like Emmett
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  Speaker 3: Worry when Emmett Worry is healthy. Um, so Derwin James
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  Speaker 3: can pretty much do anything. Um, They kind of play
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  Speaker 3: three corners because what they do is they play still
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  Speaker 3: on the outside. He's a good player, Tarheap, still on
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  Speaker 3: the outside in their big nickel. And if they play
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  Speaker 3: base 5-2, still plays on the outside. If they were
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  Speaker 3: to go to conventional nickel or dime, then still moves
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  Speaker 3: inside in the slot where he's a pretty good blitzer,
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  Speaker 3: by the way. That's something to keep in mind. And
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  Speaker 3: they'll be aware of that. But they've got good players.
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  Speaker 3: You know, again, the numbers after three weeks, I don't
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  Speaker 3: really put a ton of stock in the numbers necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: They played pretty well last week against the Bills. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: they struggled later in the game with the run game
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  Speaker 3: by the Bills. And the Bills have one of the
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  Speaker 3: most diverse multiple run games in the league. They do
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  Speaker 3: some really interesting things. so it's not surprising that they
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  Speaker 3: struggled with that. And obviously James Cook is a phenomenal back,
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  Speaker 3: certainly a top three, four back in the league. But
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of what they do. They still have Mack.
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  Speaker 3: They have Tui Palatu, who's a really interesting player because
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  Speaker 3: he lines up in multiple positions and allows them to
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  Speaker 3: be kind of diverse with their front alignments. Henley is a–
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  Speaker 3: you're probably familiar with him.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Go Cougs. Let's go, huh? Henley, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: He's a really– He's a very good football player. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they've got good players. You know, they kind
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  Speaker 3: of rotate a lot in the secondary. They play, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a number of safeties. Genesis Smith is a rookie. He's
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  Speaker 3: really a pass defender, not a run player. He's a
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  Speaker 3: deep path player. You know, he had two picks last
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  Speaker 3: week against Josh Allen. So, you know, they play a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people on the back end, but they have
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  Speaker 3: good people on defense.
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  Speaker 2: Great players are sometimes not defendable. Michael Jordan was like
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  Speaker 2: that in basketball. You know, there's been guys over the
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  Speaker 2: years that, you know, I mean, when Jamar Chase has
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  Speaker 2: a great quarterback or a good quarterback, he's that way. Jefferson,
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  Speaker 2: guys like that. Jackson Smith and Jigba, 27 catches through
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  Speaker 2: three games. I'm assuming that in the first three, teams
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  Speaker 2: have tried everything against them, whether it's cloud coverage or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it might be, right? I mean, this guy just
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  Speaker 2: keeps getting open, so that'll be a challenge for the Chargers.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting you say that because people just
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  Speaker 3: automatically assume, well, double team them, do this, do that. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, offenses know that too. And, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: can prevent that from happening by what you do with
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  Speaker 3: your formations, your use of motion. You know, otherwise, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a team could theoretically double a guy every snap and
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  Speaker 3: they don't because it impacts everybody else. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. You know, I've heard defensive coaches talk about
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  Speaker 3: this all the time. Could you theoretically double a wide
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  Speaker 3: receiver on every play? I don't know. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: you can. And I don't think coaches think you can either.
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  Speaker 3: But there's an impact on the rest of your defense.
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  Speaker 3: Because now you're asking guys, whether it's man or zone,
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  Speaker 3: to do things that they're not necessarily accustomed to doing
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  Speaker 3: that you have to practice. Because then there's different leverages.
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  Speaker 3: There's different alignments. There's different techniques. There's so many things
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  Speaker 3: that go into that. We're not, we're not 14 years
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  Speaker 3: old playing in the schoolyard, you know, so you can't
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  Speaker 3: just automatically say, well, let's double him. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: not quite as simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell joining us by the Ed McQueen casino. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Other side of the ball. We joked about Justin Herbert.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's awful now. All of a sudden, it's
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  Speaker 2: not a good quarterback. Justin Herbert, Amari and Hampton, Mike McDaniel,
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  Speaker 2: that Chargers offense against the Seahawks, Mike McDonald led defense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you, opinion here. Okay. That's again,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I do this all the time. I could
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  Speaker 3: be a hundred percent wrong. And I'm going to start
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  Speaker 3: by saying that, that I could be a hundred percent wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but I've been giving this a lot of thought watching
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  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert through the first three weeks. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: I had a very good friend who was on the
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  Speaker 3: staff there. And he's told me that Justin Herbert is
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  Speaker 3: everything you want in a quarterback. And I think most
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  Speaker 3: people in the league believe that, you know, obviously the
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  Speaker 3: playoff stuff and, you know, that's media talk and that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the You can't argue with results, so it's
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  Speaker 3: an easy thing to say. But in watching Justin Herbert
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  Speaker 3: for three weeks and in knowing what I know about
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, who in my career I've had the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to spend some time with, I just wonder if Mike
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  Speaker 3: McDaniel's offense and Justin Herbert's overall skill set don't mesh.
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  Speaker 3: Because I look at Herbert as a– Herbert's not twitchy
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  Speaker 3: and sudden. Herbert is one of those big, physical, deep drop,
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  Speaker 3: drive the ball down the field. I almost think of
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  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert in a Mike Martz, North Turner, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Don Correale type offense. That's the way I think
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  Speaker 3: of him now. And McDaniel is much more because his
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  Speaker 3: background is Kyle Shanahan. That's how he got started in
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  Speaker 3: the league. you know, quarterbacks like Garoppolo, Purdy, Tua, you know,
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  Speaker 3: those sort of quick twitchy guys that get the ball out.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, I could be dead wrong. It's just,
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  Speaker 3: this is an opinion, not, hey, I know what I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about. Maybe I don't, but I'm just giving you
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  Speaker 3: my thoughts. The other thing is they have Omari and Hampton,
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  Speaker 3: who is not at all, let's say, like Devon A. Chain,
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  Speaker 3: where he came from, you know, McDaniel last year, last
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  Speaker 3: number of years in Miami.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And Marion Hampton is a downhill, grinding, tough, physical runner
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  Speaker 3: who I like a lot. The interior of their O-line
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  Speaker 3: right now is not very good. That's a weakness in
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  Speaker 3: their game. And I think it's not a mesh right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's not working very well. And again, now they're going
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  Speaker 3: to play Seattle with a phenomenal interior, really an interior four,
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  Speaker 3: now that Raleigh Mills is getting meaningful snaps. And again,
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: it's the NFL, Ian. You know this. You and I
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: have been doing this a long time. It's almost impossible
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: to predict these things. I mean, who's to say Hampton
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't break one for 40 yards this week? You know,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: we don't know that. But when you just look at
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: what the tape shows up to this point, you're looking
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: at an interior O-line for the Chargers that includes a
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: rookie center in Jake Slaughter. Trevor Penning last week played
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: left guard after they rotated at left guard for the
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: first two weeks. And now you think this does not
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: look like a good matchup. But, you know, we've seen
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: stranger things. You never know. I'm just telling you what
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: the tape shows up to this point.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned Riley Mills just briefly. I had
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Grace Abel, did an interview with Grace Abel. We do
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: our Wednesday shows, Greg, over at Seahawks Facility. So we
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: get guys coming to the room. We do some one-on-ones.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: And I had Grace Abel. We were talking about walkthroughs.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I think you'll get a kick out of this. What
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: about walkthroughs? In the famous story back, you probably heard this,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: when Earl Thomas, his walkthroughs back in the heyday, Earl
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: never walked. He was 1,000 miles an hour, and Cliff
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Averill and Mike Bennett got into him once because he
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: started chirping them, saying, they're like, little fella, hey, this
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: is a walkthrough. Take it easy. Riley Mills is that guy.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Grace Abel said Riley Mills' motor is 24-7. He's always going.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: He's like just Joe Tryhard guy. But it translates to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the field. You like what you've seen from Riley Mills.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I like a lot, and I really liked his tape.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: His next to last year at Notre Dame, I actually
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: did him that summer, and I loved him. And then,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: of course, I guess he got hurt after seven or eight,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: whatever it was. And then he came back from the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: ACL and played late last year, but this year he's
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: clearly part of the rotation. I like him a lot.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: They've got a four-man D-tackle rotation now because he does
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: play enough snaps that they're meaningful. It's not as if
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: he's out there for three or four snaps. I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: he's been playing 15, 16, 17 snaps. So they've got
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: a really good de-tackle rotation. I'm always blown away watching Murphy,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Byron Murphy, when he does that thing where he puts
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: his knee on the ground to take on the double teams.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: It's pretty phenomenal. You know, if I tried that, I'd
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: probably be in a wheelchair in five minutes. But, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: he is so strong. And Leonard Williams is just a really, really,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: you know, Leonard Williams, and not that what I think
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: matters in Leonard Williams' world or in anybody's world of
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: these players, But, you know, Leonard Williams is one of
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: those guys. He's not going to be a Hall of Famer,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: but he's going to play in the league for 12, 13,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: maybe 14 years. And he's just one of those guys
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: that's just a really, really good player.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: And, you know, that to me is just given what
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: I do and knowing, you know, being around players and coaches,
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: you know, for years and years and years and knowing
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: the toll, the physical and mental toll that it takes
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: to play this game at a high level.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Year in and year out, you know, just from an
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: observer standpoint. guys like Leonard Williams, I just think are
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: really special.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I agree with you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Let me wrap it up with this. Julian Love is
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: expected to play. We'll find out definitively here in about
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: 30 or 40 minutes, but Julian Love expected to play.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: That's a big deal.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to ask you like how,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: how much do they miss him? Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Berks touchdown wouldn't have happened. We
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: don't know that, but obviously that was Finley who, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: who got there maybe a step late, maybe, maybe love
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: sees it, you know, a beat sooner and it's not
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. So you don't know the answer to that,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: you know, and I don't want to put it all
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: on Finley because you know, that would be wrong. Uh, but, uh,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You know, love is love. I mean, you know, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: remember speaking to a good friend of mine who's a
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: DB coach in the league. And he said that when
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: they did that, when Love was a free agent before
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: he signed with Seattle and he was doing all his
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: work on the free agent safeties, he just thought Love
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: was clearly the best free agent safety and could envision
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: him basically in any defense. So, I mean, this is
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: a really good football player. And I imagine, again, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: don't know this because I'm not there during the week
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: during game planning, but I imagine he's incredibly smart and savvy.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And you miss a guy like that, not just because
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: of potential plays, but just the way he probably deals
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: with the whole defense.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: What you said about Leonard Williams strikes me because I
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: think you could say that about Julian Love as well, right?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I've had that conversation with Hugh before, and it's like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you know what? Like you've said, Julian Love, what does
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: he do great? Well, I don't know if he does
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: anything like, you know, like Hall of Fame great, but
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: he does everything really well. And I think at that position,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that's what you want is a guy that does everything
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: really well and just sees the game and has a
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: feel for the game.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: And those guys are so important to the defense on
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: the back end. And of course they play a ton
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: of too high safety shell. They're not a single high
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: defense very often. So, you need to see the game.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And sometimes, like I said, I'm not knocking Finley or
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: even Thomas on the back end. Obviously, Thomas wasn't meant
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: to be a starter either. But sometimes a guy just
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: sees it. And in a game of milliseconds, that's a
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: big deal. That's a big, big deal. So, you know,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: but Love is a great football player. And like you nailed,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: he's not going to be a Hall of Famer. But,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: you know, barring any injury, God willing, he's going to
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: be another guy that plays 12, 13 years and just
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: be a really, really good player.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So to wrap it up, what Greg Cosell says and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: what the tape is telling you is that if you
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: give Mike McDonald– some really, you know, solid, good football
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: players that see and feel the game really well and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: have a good feel for it. And you give that
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to a Mike McDonald, he might be able to do
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: something with it. I don't know, win a Superbowl or something.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: They might get it. They might, you know, we'll see
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: what happens. They might have a chance to win a Superbowl.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: But you know, it's, it's, so yeah, those are the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: things you just don't know as far as, you know, players,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: because those are, and I hate to use this word,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: you know, because everything eventually shows up on tape, but
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you know, intangibles, people like to use that word, you know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what that means. I mean, we
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: all do to some extent. It's just like when people
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: say instincts. It's an easy word to throw out there.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: But, you know, but love, you nailed it. Love sees
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the game exactly the right way.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so does his head coach. So we'll see.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: We're hoping for a bounce back up here this week
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: against the Chargers. Next week, there's a little team called
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the 49ers rolling in, Greg, next Friday. You might have
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: heard of them. They're pretty good.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: We're talking about maybe doing that as a full segment
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: in our matchup show, depending on what happens this Sunday,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: because something tells me that could be a big game
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: on the NFL schedule. What do you think?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You know what? I'll leave it to you to tell me.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Maybe.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. 49ers, Seahawks. I'm looking back over the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: last 20 years. It feels like every one of those
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: games has been a big game. So we'll get to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: that next week. In the meantime, matchup show this week
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: on ESPN, NFL Network. Go search for it. Tape it
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: if it's too early in the morning for you. But
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: you'll see Greg. He's got the great looking. I like
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: the royal blue suit kind of going on today. That's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: a good look, my friend.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Ashley liked it too i feel pretty good about.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: This yeah well if ashley likes it she liked it
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: too yeah ashley liked it so that's that she got
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: she gave the seal of approval there so she's two.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Thumbs up i don't want to say anything out of
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: school but my guess is she probably has better taste
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: than you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Do well yeah because i i like you i'm sure
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: this is how it works for espn i i don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: dress myself we have a stylist for the kraken tv
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: network so we we i let darcy tell me what
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to wear so yeah yeah Yeah, so.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Lucky you.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise it would be an absolute disaster. I'd probably
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: look like I do right now with a hoodie on
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and a baseball hat. So that's how it works.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, unfortunately, I can't wear that when I'm shooting
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: the matchup show.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Greg.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Ian.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell, great as always. We'll come back, take a break.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: We also keep an eye on what the Seahawks injury
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: report looks like. Danny O'Neill, 1 o'clock hour. Rob Rangit, 2.
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• 23:04
  Speaker 5: 425-255-0500 now here's ian with danny o'neill man i don't.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: There's just nothing to talk about today but we'll try
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to find something to have a conversation about with danny
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: o'neill hey buddy how are you I'm good.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: How are you doing, Ian?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? I'm doing better than a lot
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of people in this world. I can tell you that.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I'm doing better than an ill-fated Portland Trailblazer TV broadcaster.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Probably doing better.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: Let me just make a public service announcement.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: To any person who's out there who had a social
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: media account when they were a teenager, nuke that thing
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: the minute you go to take an actual job. There
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: is nothing on there that can do anything but hurt you.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: Blow that thing up. Explode it. There is absolutely no reason.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: And this isn't about excusing or minimizing anything that that
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: individual said as a young man. It's just about it
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: can do nothing for you. So get rid of your
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: social media accounts once you become an adult.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Start over. Yeah, that's wise, wise, wise advice along the way.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And you don't need to tweet or post everything that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: goes through your mind. You really don't. I mean, it's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: probably okay if you just don't.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: That's where we're different, though, because, I mean, we're old.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: I grew up without the Internet. I didn't get email until, like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: the first email I sent was when I was 19
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: years old or 18, like, when I went to college.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: I didn't have any email. So I think that to
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: be a teenager now– that's, that's like breathing. I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: talking to one of my nephews. I spent a significant
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: amount of my adolescence as a teenager standing around a
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: parking lot outside of deluxe foods, waiting for the last
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: person in my group to show up. So we could
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: go out that night. Like we hacky sack there. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: I talked to someone, my nephew who's goes to the
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: same high school I did. And he's like, yeah, no,
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: we just text. Like you don't sit and wait. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: I was like, the world has just changed so fundamentally
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: from when I was a kid.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I think my, My kid, my youngest, I think most
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: of the communication they do is either text or snap. Snapchat, right?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But that's like just private and it goes away. It's
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the Twitter X, whatever we call it. X now. X,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: but Twitter.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Oh, we'll call it Twitter.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: You don't have to try. It's Twitter.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: You know what's wild? When I first started working at KJR, Graz,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I remember Graz was like the first one. that did Twitter. Like,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: this would have been 2006, 2007, somewhere in there, right?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And Graz is like, oh, this guy's got to try
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: this Twitter thing. And we're like, what are you talking about?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: And I love the Graz to death. If Gas had
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: said that, we wouldn't, oh, what is this? Tell me more.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: But it was Graz. And I'm like, what's he got
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: up his sleeves? You know, what's the Graz doing? Come
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: on now. Graz, what are you talking about Twitter? It's
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: going to be the next big thing. We all should
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: get on board with it. he was right the graz
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was right graz was really wrong to be honest with
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you but i i it yeah the graz was right
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: and but it started and it was a i always
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: thought it was a great place to be a promotional
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: tool right for what you're doing writing i mean you
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: use it for your writing and and uh you know
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: for newspaper for radio tv whatever and and we still
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: do but yeah when you when you like hey, so-and-so
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: is a dipstick, you know, and worse with language. You
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: probably don't need to tweet that necessarily, but you're right, Danny.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It can all be avoided. It can all be avoided by, hey,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: because most jobs now, especially with AI, they'll go through
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: your accounts. Like, that's the thing. They go through it
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and see, what have you said? Well, that Danny O'Neill,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I never hired that guy. Hell, no chance.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that conclusion's been reached. I guess it's I guess
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: it's kind of in the same department because we talked
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: about this a couple weeks ago where this new Seahawks
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: owner was tweeting in response to fans' questions and how
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: refreshing or exciting it is to have that sort of
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: direct communication. I saw this week his son, who has
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: a role with the team, was addressing adding microphones to
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: the press conference, which was exciting. And all of those
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: things are great. And then there's the flip side of
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: when you talk, you eventually are going to say things
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: that are going to sort of knock people off balance.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: When you start opening up the channels of communication, the
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: cost that comes with it is people are going to
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: read into and make inferences and micromanage every little utterance
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: you have because you're giving them a window into– to
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: fuel their speculation about anything you.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Might be talking about.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: So he says today when asked for people just joining
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: us that haven't heard, he was asked by a publication
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: called Axios, which is, I guess, a political... Danny, can
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you explain what Axios is for those like me that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: don't know what the hell it is? I don't think.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Anyone that works at Axios can explain what Axios is.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: It is a political-oriented... news service, but it's also like
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: they sell an email newsletter format. Like it's a style
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: of writing with bullet points, but they do, they do
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: employ reporters who will like interview people. It's, it's primarily
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: oriented around technology and politics. Like the news generating portion
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: of it. But yeah, I have no idea why he
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: was answering questions from Axios. We're going to be completely honest.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: He answers questions from the New York Times. I get that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I understand. Wall Street Journal?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: He's like, why the hell is he talking to Axios?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question. So he was asked them
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: if he would make a commitment to keeping the team
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: in Seattle long-term. His quote, quote, I will never say never. Now,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: he went on to say some really good things. Hey,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to change anything, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But when the first.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: 500 years from now, I fully expect him to still
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: be here.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: But nobody heard it because he'd already stepped on the
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: rake and it hit him square.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: In the eye. Right smack between the eyeballs, man. Like, buddy,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: those five words? And so I had to go check
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: our text line at four, nine, four, five, one. All right. I, I,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I gotta check the text line. And like, there's some
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: that are saying, ah, don't worry about it. Don't worry
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: about it. And like Ashley and I kind of said,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he just, You know, just misspoke. Like he just, it
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: was a blunder. Like it was just kind of a blunder.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Just don't, don't say that. But because the Mariners under
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: George Ardress tried to move, the Seahawks under Kim Bering
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: tried to move and the Sonics did move in this
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: particular market. You say something like that. Everyone's going to go, whoa.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: wait a second, what are you talking about? And then
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I started reading some of these things and our text lines.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: The league would approve a move overseas. That's part of
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the NFL's long-term plan. Somebody else, it's a warning shot
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to our enlightened political class. He's a smart man. He
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: knows exactly what he's saying and doing. We need to
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: pay attention, et cetera. There's a lot of people going, eh,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I just slough it off. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: will slough it off for now, but I think he
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: needs to talk to, as you said, The Athletic, New
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: York Times. Seattle Times, whoever it is, and just say, hey.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Or how about this? Go to johnboyleatseahawks.com. Give them a
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: little thing. We're not going anywhere. And put that on seahawks.com.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: We move on. Thank you very much.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: The reality in these sort of situations is that nothing
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: he says right now has any binding impact of long-term
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: assuaging fears. But you can say things. that send people
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: into a panic and for understandable reasons, there's some scar
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: tissue here. It is an incredibly poor choice of words,
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: but I think if you look at the, at the
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: full content of what he said, if, if there was
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: a scenario where he was looking to move the team,
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: or if this was going to be a warning shot,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: there would have been discussion of the stadium. Like just
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: speaking at this, if this was, if that was the
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: play that was, if he wanted a brushback pitch that
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: was going to put everybody in like, Oh, we've got it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: We got to be careful what we do.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: He would have made a reference to the stadium and
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: he did not. And that, that right there, like specifically
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: said that he has no plans to change anything with
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: the franchise, with Lumen field. So in terms of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: actual logistics of what's going on here, there was, there
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: was no ask or inference of, of, what he wouldn't want.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: So I really, I I'm with you. Like, that's just
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: a clumsy execution. Like that was, that was absolutely something
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: you did not need to say. And telling someone never
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: say never, like, how about just not say that?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Just not say that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: It's just, like, I have no current plans to change
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: anything about the team, including the coach, president, operation, or
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: living field. It all functions well. If you just said that,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that's fine. There would still be people that go, he
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: didn't say anything, we're going to move him. But, yeah,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the never say never, those five words, oh, yeah, yeah, buddy. Like, no,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that's just not– that's not– The Seahawks. So in the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, Mike McDonald's done a rogue interview
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: with Graham Bensinger without any oversight. Kosla does whatever the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: hell he wants because he's a multi-billionaire times 10, 30, 40,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. I get that. But guys, sometimes it
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: just doesn't help you along the way. And that's what
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it is. And you mentioned... The two microphones in the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: press conference for the Seahawks? You know, the funny thing is,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you've been there. There is a microphone stuck out towards
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a shotgun mic for the questions. You can hear them okay.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: You can't hear them great, right? But you can hear them.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: They've had that before. Here's my conspiracy, Danny. Did that
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: have anything to do with the Mariners holding their postseason
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto news conference in a closet at T-Mobile Park?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Shot across the bow.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: It is possible. It is funny how this would be
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: another thing, old man talking about how things have changed.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: Press conferences used to be an opportunity for reporters to
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: ask questions that would inform the stories that they would write.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: And now press conferences are content unto themselves. You watch
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: them after games, and it has created a very, very
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: strange dynamic where the types of questions that are asked,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: sometimes how people respond... It's created a very weird dynamic
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: where people view that as– and I guess it's fair.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Reporters spend all game critiquing the performance of athletes who
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: are doing things out on the field. And now the
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: fans at home then spend half an hour listening to
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: reporters ask questions so they can critique how that's– I
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: believe that they won't get up and demand some accountability
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: over what's happened.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Danny O'Neill joining us, Danny Apostrophe. Big game tomorrow in
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, California, sir. Big game.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Yes, it is.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting because, mostly because USC lost
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: not as much, but partly because UW lost to Minnesota.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: It isn't kind of on the radar of many across
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the country. There's games that people, Iowa, Ohio State, for example,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: people pay more attention to. But Danny, I... Maybe it's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: just the morbid cougar in me. I don't know.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: You should fully lean into that part of it today.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: This is glorious.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think someone's going to come out of
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: this game and their season is over. For what their
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: expectations were. And I even say that with Washington for
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: this reason, because I kind of was trying to give
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt. And then I was
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: talking to Stuart Mandell, our weekly visit with him from
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the Athletic of the Day, and he says, no, he says,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Washington was ranked in the top, what, the 17th preseason?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I know those don't matter to some, but the expectations are,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: when you're that team, is not to have a Penn
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: State kind of year, like Penn State did last year.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Like your expectations, and I don't know. I listen to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: this radio station. I hear Dick Fane. I hear Dave
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Softy Mahler talking about playoff expectations all August. And I
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: think with DeMond Williams and what you're paying him, you
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: probably had those types of expectations. Now things happen. You're
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: running back rooms beat up. I mean, Denzel Boston, we
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: all watched what he did last night. That's a big loss.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: But every team in the country has guys that get drafted, right?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So meanwhile, Jen Cohen, the former UW athletic director– Whoa,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: she got a mess on her hands with Lincoln Riley.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So Riley Fish, to me, is the story tomorrow, Danny.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think whoever loses this game, that coach is
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: going to be feeling a lot of pressure. I think
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: if USC loses, there's a decent chance that Lincoln Riley
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: gets fired. It was different when it happened with Sark,
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: but USC has made moves midseason before Lane Kiffin got
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: left on the tarmac. So it's really bad for USC.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: Washington's is a little bit different. Part of it is
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: because of the injuries. Jed's in year three. I agree
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: with the feeling that you're saying. I started this season
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: with hopes of an outside shot at a playoff berth.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: I absolutely thought that that should be what they were
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: geared toward. You're bringing back a quarterback. who you almost lost.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: And if he had left, it would have been a disaster,
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: but he didn't. So see if we can hold it together.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: And instead, now you're hearing talk about how young this
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: team is. And the part that I'm having the hardest
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: time with understanding is how this offensive line just really
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: does not appear capable of of living up to the
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: expectations of what you would, what, what you need to
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: have to be a competitive big 10 team. To me,
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: that's the biggest, I understand the difficulties in the run game,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: but between the offensive line, or maybe it's that demand
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: is just holding onto the ball so long and he's
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: lost his feel for it. But man, the, it wasn't
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: losing to Minnesota is not any sort of terrible black mark.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: The way they got manhandled and the way it confirmed the,
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: everything that you feared after the first month, you're like, no,
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: they really offensively, they really were that bad. And I don't,
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: you look out on their schedule, like it's going to
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: be a struggle to, to be, to win seven games.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: They're not, they're only going to be favored in maybe
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: two of their remaining games that they have left on
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: the season. There's a long way to go.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Let me, and this isn't me being the Cougar fan.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm just, I'm just curious. I love college football.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think with USC, uh, Lincoln Riley has
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: proven that he has no ability to hire a defensive
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: coordinator or have any semblance of a good defense, no
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: matter if it's Oklahoma or USC. That's their issue. That's
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: pretty simple. That's their issue. They can't do that. But
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: USC still thinks that John Robinson, John McKay, Pete Carroll
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: are running the show, and they're USC, and they're just
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: going to win. That hasn't happened consistently for a while
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: under Lincoln Riley. So their expectations are one thing, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: unrealistic or realistic, hard to say. For Washington, though, what
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: are your expectations for where that program should be?
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Well, I feel that every three years... in the current format,
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: I think every three years you should be competitive for
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: a playoff berth. Like, I think that's the, that's the
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: hope when it's really firing, when it's really going well,
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: what it looked like DeBoer was putting together, even though
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: he was only two years there, certainly what Chris Peterson built.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: But I think that, that is the hope for it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: That might not be realistic right now. And some of
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: that is, to do with the finances and Washington in
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: leaving that it is at a disadvantage, certainly for these
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: first five years in money it's getting from the broadcast package.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: But that just gets to the bigger thing. What is
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: the expectation? There was– my fear when Washington left for
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: the Big Ten, my fear was that, okay, you're going
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: to a conference that you're losing all of the geographical
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: identity that was tied into it. And Washington's expectation for
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: where it would sit in the Pac-12– it's going to
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: be much closer to Illinois than it ever wants to
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: admit once it goes to Kentucky.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, Danny, see, that's the thing. When this all went down,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and I'm speaking from a very irrational, emotional standpoint, shocking,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I know, three or four years ago when the Pac-12 dissolved.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: But when that happened, I made mention of that. People
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: lost their mind. I said, listen, if you're Oregon and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Washington and you stay in the Pac-12, you're the kings, right?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: You're Ohio State. You're the big dog. No one else is, period,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: end of story, right? And, you know, you probably would
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: have kept Cal and Stanford. And all of a sudden,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: maybe you add whoever else you add if you can
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: just get past the snobby, you know, oh, the school
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: stuff matters. If you're not at whatever school, it doesn't, like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: stop it. That's not what this is about. That's the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: dumbest thing in the world. You know, like, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, ask, I think Tosh LaPoi would rather not
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: be in the ACC right now like, you know, having
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: a hell of a time. But if you're Washington, you
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: stay in there. And I remember saying, God, you do
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: have an ability to get close. I think I use
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Minnesota actually as the team. Like you could be Minnesota.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: That's who you could beat. Illinois is a good one.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I'd say Purdue, but they're a Final Four team in
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: basketball every year. That's the challenge of leaving this conference.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma has had some good success, but how's
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma long-term in the SEC? Long-term. All these schools that
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: move around, it's hard. If you're Washington... Oregon's the only
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: one of the... Now, we'll see what Bob Chesney does
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: at UCLA. Is this a one-off or not? But right now,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Oregon's the one team in football that's had consistent success.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: I love my school. I loved the Pac-12. I don't...
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: I definitely... My opinion is rooted in my heart. I
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: understand the financial rationale that motivated Washington's decision. I still
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: would have preferred that Washington stayed. If I had been
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: the one making the choice... I would have chosen to stay.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Once they pulled the trigger and now that they've gone,
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: and then even with losing DeBoer and on their third
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: athletic director since the switch, you realize that that wasn't
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: any sort of salvation. It might have been the best
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: financial alternative, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: really severe uphill slog. Now you're starting to stare down
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: the possibility of that because, man, for all of the
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: talent that Jed Fish has brought in in recruiting, the
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: ability to hold on to that talent is a real
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: challenge in today's. You have the possibility of seeing some
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: of that talent leave, and this right now looks very
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: much like that. a real, it is, you are headlong
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: into disappointment, and maybe they'll go down to USC and
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: play a whole lot better against a USC defense that
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: has had a hard time stopping anybody for the last
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: two games. But certainly what we've seen through four games,
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: that this looks like an absolute trudge of a season
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: for Washington and its offense.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: This might be the worst defense they've seen this year,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and they've seen Utah State, Eastern Washington, and Wazoo. So
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It could be the worst defense in Washington, D.C., and
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: they might have success. By the way, we brought this
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: up earlier this week. Do you think that somewhere they
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: have like a fake– it's Hollywood, right? Do you have
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: like a fake tarmac you can roll out there when
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: you fire Lincoln tomorrow, like after Washington beats him?
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Well, actually, talk to the Coastalist. See if you can
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: get a couple microphones out there.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Turn it into some content.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I'll never say never, sir. I'll never say never. I'll
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: never say never.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: You're asking. She's got to wither through all of this
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: as well. I will say, even though it is, it
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: is refreshing to see USC underachieve with all of the talent.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: It's a tradition unlike any other.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I listen. These are the games I'm really torn on
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: because I don't like either school. And we don't have
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: ties anymore in college football, so I don't know. One
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: way or the other, it's a win, I guess. It's
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a win no matter what happens tomorrow for some of us. Okay,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: tell people the dang apostrophe, sir.
• 44:19
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• 44:22
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• 44:25
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• 44:29
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• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Love it. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, my friend.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Take care.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Danny O'Neill, we'll take a break. Come back. Got Seahawk news.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Injury report is out. We'll give you what that is.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: That news, not great. Also, Daily Power Play next.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: As part of our never-ending coverage of the NFL, it's
• 44:45
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• 44:50
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• 44:59
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go, a Friday edition of the
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: show and are checking in right now with our good
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: friend Rob Rang from FoxSports.com, Triple Option Podcast with our
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: buddy Corbin and Robert Turbin. He's a BC Lions guy. Hey,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: first of all, congratulations. That was a big win for
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: BC last week, if I'm not mistaken, right, in the CFL?
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no question about it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: A big win over the Saskatchewan Rough Riders, a team
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that knocked us out of the playoffs last year. It's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: good to get at least a little bit of regular
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: season revenge against one of our arch rivals.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Let's go orange and black up there north of the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: border in Vancouver. All right. Let's get to some games
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: this weekend. We're going to start tonight. A Friday night affair.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Virginia Tech. Neither team is ranked, Rob. It's
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: a 4 o'clock game, I say tonight here in a
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: couple hours, a 4 o'clock game on ESPN. But let's
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: get to this game right now because, Rob, two teams
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that are 4-0, Virginia Tech, man, they were, it feels
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: like it's been forever since they were good, but for
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: all those years under Frank Beamer, good, but So two
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: 4-0 teams, two teams unbeaten in the ACC. Let's talk
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: about who we're watching. We'll start with Pittsburgh. I think
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: they've got a pretty good right tackle we want to
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's the thing, Ian.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: These are two 4-0 teams, so obviously that's intriguing in
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and of itself. This also is a game that has
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a really intriguing kind of one-on-one or maybe even two-on-one
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: type of a battle here that I think the Seahawks
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: fans are going to want to pay attention to. We've
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: been talking about edge rushers so much. as well as
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: occasionally about right tackles. And this game happens to Pitt,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a couple of very effective edge rushers for Virginia Tech
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: against Pitt's right tackle, Ryan Baer, a player that I'm
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: intrigued by. He doesn't have the lightest of feet. He's 6'7,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: 320 pounds. Not a lot of those guys do have
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: light feet, but he hasn't allowed a sack so far
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: this season.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: He is an effective run blocker.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: So number 70 for Pitt, I think, is going to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: be really key in this game if the Panthers are
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: going to be able to continue throwing the.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Ball as effectively as they have.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: They've got a sophomore quarterback, Mason Hunchell, 6'2, 215 pounds.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have the greatest of size. But he's been
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: really effective so far. 13 touchdowns, only one interception in
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the history of the Pitt Panthers programming. There's never been
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a true sophomore ever be named a team captain. So
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the head coach, Pat Narduzzi, certainly believes in him. And
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I've just been very impressed with his poise. But again,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech Hokies have two edge rushers. Number 34,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Cortez Harris, who has five sacks so far.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: And he followed....
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: James Franklin from Penn State to Virginia Tech, as well
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: as Asen Stevens, number 42. Stevens is the bigger of
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the players, 6'5, 264 pounds. He's got four and a
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: half sacks and two fumbles forced. The aforementioned Cortez Harris
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: has five sacks himself. And they've got 15 sacks over
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the first four games of this season. So, again, the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Hokies can get after it. That's one of the things
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: James Franklin was known for. I really think that this
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: is a rare Friday night game against two unranked teams
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: that Seahawks fans absolutely should be paying attention to.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: So go take a look at that. Number 34 and 42,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the two edge rushes for Virginia Tech against that right tackle.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And then the sophomore quarterback, Mason Heitschel, for Pittsburgh. Should
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: be a good game. Again, both undefeated, both unranked. We'll
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: see what happens. Let's jump ahead to Saturday. Rob Rank,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: brought to you by Farrelly's Pizza, farrellyspizza.com. Bama at Mississippi State.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: And this is, boy, this is a fun game because
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: we've got two, I'm just going to start here. I
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: don't want to bury the lead. Let's just start with
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the two young quarterbacks. Let's just go down that road.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Keelan Russell for Alabama and Kamario Taylor for Mississippi State.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just two intriguing guys. As you mentioned, they're
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: both younger players. Keelan Russell is a sophomore, as is
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Kamario Taylor, a sophomore quarterback for Mississippi State.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: So we're not talking about these.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Guys for the upcoming 2027 draft that is supposed to
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: be so rich a quarterback.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: But they do have intriguing talent.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: It's funny because we all know that Kalen DeBoer, of course,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is now the head coach at Alabama. And it's interesting
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: because Kalen Russell, I mean, just his face, he actually
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: looks a lot like Michael Penix. He's got a frame
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: kind of similar to him as well. Six foot three,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: 194 pounds, a little bit slim. But he is a dynamic,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: dual threat kind of a guy. He's got an eight
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: to two touchdown interception ratio. And he really is relying
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: on his wide receiver, Ryan Coleman-Williams, a 6-foot, 175-pounder Ian
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: who reminds me so much of Devontae Smith. Of course,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a former Heisman Trophy winner, now a star wide receiver
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: at the Philadelphia Eagles. And Coleman Williams, to me, is
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: really one of the key here. It's similar to what
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: we just talked about at the Pitt-Virginia Tech game tonight,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: where it's kind of a one-on-one battle, that right tackle
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Ryan Vera going up against those edge rushers. Ryan Coleman Williams,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: number one, the wide receiver, is going to be going
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: up against a cornerback for Mississippi State, number one, Kelly Jones.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And we've talked briefly about him in the past, but Ian,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: he is a John Schneider type of a corner.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: He's 6'4. He's 205 pounds. He only allowed 11 receptions.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: of last year. He's slipping a little bit, buddy. He's
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: only got five. He's allowed five receptions so far this season.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: You know, in four games, that's not too bad. But
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: none of them have been touchdowns. And I just wonder,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: at 6'4, does he have the change of direction that
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: to be able to handle a really slithery kind of
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: a route runner like Ryan Coleman Williams. So to me,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I think that this is the most interesting one-on-one matchup
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of the entire slate of college football games this weekend.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: And the fact that it happens Saturday morning early, as
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, 9 a.m. on ABC, I think that there
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: might be some Seahawks fans who are sleeping through this one,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: but it's one definitely to watch.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: We have not talked about, and I've it feels like
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: for a while. We haven't talked about Ryan Coleman Williams,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the receiver for, and by the way, I may have misspoke.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I might have said both those quarterbacks were freshmen.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: You mentioned it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: They're both sophomores. But I don't know if I've, although
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: nowadays it's not even that. It's first year, second year,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: third year, fourth year, or I guess if you're a
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Hatchet brother, it's seventh year. But that's fine. But I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: want to, it's true. Ryan Coleman Williams. I'm just kind
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: of looking back at his numbers over the last few years.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And There's been some consistency in the sense he had
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: 48 catches his freshman year, 49 last year, but under
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: 1,000 yards each year, 12 total touchdowns coming into the season.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: This year he's already up to 17 catches, 333 yards,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. But it feels like there's been some
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: dropsies or something there that hasn't been right because remember
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: it was him and Jeremiah Smith, right, where these two
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: guys are kind of on par with one another. There's
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: a clear separation between the two. What's the talk on
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Coleman Williams?
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: He's got to catch the football.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: You know, he is a guy that that that dynamic
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: freshman year, I believe he had eight touchdowns. His freshman,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: true freshman season, again, a really slight kind of a frame.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So you weren't expecting him to come in as a
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: true freshman and dominate the way that he did in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the way that you just mentioned, Jeremiah Smith of Ohio State.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Dominant as a freshman, he's dominated every team since. But
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: with Ryan Coleman-Williams this past year, he really struggled with drops.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And actually, in the opener this year, he had a
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: couple of drops as well. He's had gloves on, he's
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: taken gloves off. It looked like he kind of got
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: his mojo back here these last couple of weeks.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: And that's why I really think of this game as
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: an intriguing one.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Because, again, Kelly Jones, the big, lanky corner he's going
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to be going up against... is going to offer just
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a different degree of physicality than typically Ryan Coleman-Williams faces,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: even in practice at Alabama. I know that sounds crazy,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: but of course there's just a whole different style of
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: play in Tuscaloosa now with Kalen DeBoer taking over for
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban. That's why I think that this game is intriguing,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: but there's no doubt about it. In terms of just
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the open field and getting open, or the open field
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: as far as just kind of breaking away after he
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: has the ball in his hands, Ryan Coleman-Williams is a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: special player, and so if he can have a spectacular
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: performance in this game, you're going to start hearing his
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: name right there again in the first-round conversation.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Rob, I have my weekly visit with Stuart Mandel from
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: The Athletic on Wednesdays, and I wanted to get to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: this game and talk to him about it a little
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: bit just in terms of the bigger game. You're going
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: to talk about your expertise and certainly some of the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: individual players, but I'm glad we want to talk about
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. and North Carolina coming up this week. And
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, I think there's people that if they kind
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: of just look at Notre Dame, they scoff and they say, well,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: you know, they just kind of find their way in
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: the playoff. They don't have to play in a conference.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: You know, they beat Wisconsin 41-13 at the start of
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the season. That's a big win. That win looks better
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: by the second. They're taking on a North Carolina team
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: that second year under Bill Belichick does look a little
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: bit better, but they suffered that brutal loss to Clemson.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: They're coming off of that. So let's talk about some
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: of the guys we're watching in that game, and that
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: would be Notre Dame and UNC. That's also a 9 a.m. game.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: It's on ESPN tomorrow on Saturday. Let's talk about Leonard Moore,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the cornerback, and we'll start there because you call him
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the defensive version of Jeremiah Smith.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I thought that that might catch your attention.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Everybody knows that quarterbacks are the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: most valuable position in all of football. And even though
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith is clearly the best player in college football,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: potentially eligible for the 2027 draft, it's very unlikely that
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins or whatever team that winds up having
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick is going to take a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: wide receiver position. just because, again, quarterbacks are more important
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: than any other position. Jeremiah Smith, again, is the best
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: player in football. Well, the same thing on the defensive
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: side of.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: The ball, Ian.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Cornerbacks just very rarely are viewed as being worthy of
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: a top two, top three type of a selection. I mean,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: remember all the grief that John Schneider received when he
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: had the audacity of taking Devin Witherspoon, number five overall.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: You know, even though he has since, of course, become
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: such a great player for the Seahawks, one of the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: foundational players for this dominant defense that they have. I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: think that Leonard Moore is the best defensive player in
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the country, period. I mean, he is just fantastic. He
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: is about as good of a corner as I've ever seen.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: And of course, you and I have been doing this
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: for 20 years now at this point. He reminds me
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: so much of Patrick Chetan, the great corner for the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. in just his size, his physicality, his ball skills.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, just everything that you're looking for in a
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: quarterback Leonard Moore offers. And going back to what you
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: mentioned before with Stuart Mandela and the conversations about Notre Dame,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: this is one of the better Notre.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Dame teams I've seen in an awful long time.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And the biggest reason why is, along with Leonard Moore, again,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: a dynamic player in his own right, they do have
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a legitimate quarterback in C.J.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Carr.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: A possible first-round corner or quarterback, excuse me. They also
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: have a dynamic edge rusher, Mbubagar Traore.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: It's an easy name to screw up, but.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Number five is the kind of guy that when he
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: hits quarterbacks, they will remember his name.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: He's got some length to him. Again, 6'5, he's 260 pounds.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: He almost reminds me a little bit of a longtime
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: NFL star, Jason Pierre-Paul. really long and leggy but at
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: the same time he's got some agility to him got
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: some underrated power to him as well in any level
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: of football the quarterback and edge rushers the guys who
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: can affect the quarterbacks are most important.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: And Notre Dame has those guys and they have.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: A record or a schedule here that can allow them
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: to get into the playoff I think that they could
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: do some damage so look it seems like every year
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: there's all this talk about Notre is this the year
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame can finally get back and actually win a
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: championship this might be their year.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: We have not, I don't think we've talked about CJ
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Carr enough, Notre Dame's quarterback. What are we thinking there?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: I like him. You know, again, he's a young quarterback.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: I think he's a third-year junior.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So, again, the fact that he is surrounded by as
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: much talent as he has, as he does, then that,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: to me, is going to be the biggest question mark. Because,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: of course, last year, Notre Dame focused on their running attack.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love and Jagarian Price, obviously. But now the pressure
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: is all on the young quarterback, and he has played well.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: A little bit like Jade Maiava from USC in that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you just see... Consistent accuracy with the football, regardless of
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: whether it's short, intermediate, or deep passes.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have the greatest size. He's 6'3, 220 pounds roughly.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: He's not a dynamic athlete, but my goodness, as far
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: as a guy who's shown poise and just precision in
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: his passing, he is a young quarterback that I'm really
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: excited about because he has not only the physical traits,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: but a lot of the intangibles that you're looking for
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: 33 touchdowns, 7 interceptions in, well, his second two years
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: as a starter. Last year was his first full-time starting year,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and then obviously last year as well. So he's put
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: up some numbers along the way. Rob Rank, brought to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: you by Forelli's Pizza, forellispizza.com. We've talked Ohio State and
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Iowa a little bit, but I think we should talk
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: about this game. In terms of ranked teams, it's the
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: biggest game of the weekend. Certainly a huge Big Ten
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: game that everyone's talking about as well. Ohio State's ranked
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: number 5. Iowa, good for them at 14. Kirk Ferentz
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: is has found a way to navigate his old school
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: ways into the new world of NIL. We know all
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the stars, Julian Sand, Jeremiah Smith, Kenyatta Jackson, et cetera.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: What do we see in this game? Who are you
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: looking at, and can Iowa hang with these guys?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I think they can hang with them just because their
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: defense is good enough that it's going to force Ohio
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: State to really focus in on Jeremiah Smith. I don't
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: know that they're going to, that the Buckeyes are going
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball consistently against Iowa.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: And so I think it's just going to be a
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: classic Iowa kind of a slugfest. I just don't know
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: that I was going to be able to score enough
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: to be able to stay up with Ohio state.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: I think that if, if Ohio.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: State can get to say 17 points, they probably going
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: to be able to walk away with this, this game.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I think that Julian saying at the quarterback position is
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: savvy enough. I experienced enough at this point and now
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: in his second season as the full-time starter that the,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: that they should be able to get through. And again,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: like we talked about before with Leonard Moore, I think
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the college football fans should just enjoy the, the dynamic
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: play that is Jeremiah Smith, because he is just, and
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I know it seems like every year we talk about
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers and all the greatest of all time
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I just think that
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the Jeremiah Smith just continues to amaze. I mean, I've
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: been using the comparison to Julio Jones, a future hall
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: of famer since the very first time I laid eyes
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: on this kid as a true freshman, but he truly
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: is a dominant player. One of the handful of players
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: that I would say was ready to play in the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: NFL as a true freshman.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: He is that good. He should be the number one
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: overall pick.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: He won't be, but he's as top five lock as
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: you're ever going to get it to me.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: He's worth the price of admission all by himself.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I want to get to a couple more before we
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: wrap it up. Let me start quickly. BYU-TCU Big 12 matchup.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: We've talked about him a little bit last year. I'm
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: not sure so much this year. Nothing like looking out
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: there and seeing a quarterback wearing number 47, which is
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeier for BYU.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just love that fact. It just kind
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: of speaks to who this kid is. The fact that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: he wears number 47. at the quarterback position, just, you know, he's,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: he's obviously playing quarterback, but at the same time, he
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: has the mentality of a linebacker. You know, he's six
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: foot two, he's 230 pounds. He's only a sophomore, but
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: he already has that kind of thick, strong athletic frame
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a good player.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: You know, he does need to learn how to throw
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: the ball. I'm going to use like kind of a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: baseball analogy here, take a little bit off, throw a
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: change up every now and then because everything is a fastball,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: including some of the short throws. So I don't know
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: if he's broken the fingers of some of the players
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: around him yet, but he might because that is one
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: thing that I think that he could make it a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: little bit easier on some of his teammates.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: But he has shown that.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: The clutch factor to him that I'm really intrigued by.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I liked the way that he, uh, threw some, uh,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: some very accurate passes and a big win over Arizona a.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Couple of weeks ago.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Um, I think again, BYU is a team enter 10th
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: ranked 10th in all of the, uh, in college football
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: right now. They are another team who I think has
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: a real shot at going into the playoff here. They
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: also have a very good running back. We've talked about
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: LJ Martin for the last couple of years. He's a
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: little bit of a taller back, roughly 6'2, 225 pounds.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: But for a guy of that height, he does have
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: some slitheriness to him.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: He has very light feet, and he can make people
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: miss in a phone booth, and he runs hard. So
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a heck of a player that I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: think is not necessarily going to run real well as
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: far as, you know, maybe runs in the four high
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: four fives, low four sixes. But he is as proven
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: of a back as there is in all of college football,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: just been a very consistent player. And then finally, I'd
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: be remiss if I didn't mention the linebacker. He's one
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: of my absolute favorite sleepers in this class, a guy
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: that people don't know about yet. The running back play
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: is where I mentioned before, LJ Martin wears number four
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Again, number four, Cade Uluave, 6'1,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: 235-pound linebacker. He was at Cal and was a very
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: productive player there. 21 and a half tackles for loss
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: over the last couple of seasons.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: He just, he stands out for BYU.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen a linebacker that plays like that at
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: BYU for an awful long time.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Rob Rang, brought to you by Farrelly's Pizza. Farrelly'sPizza.com. We'll
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: wrap it up with the Washington game taken on USC.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: And USC ranked 18th in the country, facing all kinds
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: of pressure down there with Lincoln Riley. I don't feel
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: as much pressure up here, but I feel like there's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: some disappointment with Washington.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: It's interesting.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Both teams have just one loss in the season, but
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to come out of there with their second loss,
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to basically kill any chance of the
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  Speaker 2: college football playoff. Let's just look at one matchup. USC's
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  Speaker 2: got a left tackle that has started a lot of
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  Speaker 2: football games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Elijah Page is a really good player.
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  Speaker 1: And again, we've been talking about tackles and edge rushers specifically.
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  Speaker 4: For the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: And again, as Warren's repeating, obviously Charles Cross and Abe
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  Speaker 1: Lucas are cornerstones to the Seahawks past, present, and future.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, you're always looking for depth.
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  Speaker 1: And Elijah Page, to me, is one of the The left,
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  Speaker 1: the tackles that isn't getting enough attention. I mentioned Ryan
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  Speaker 1: bear before for Pittsburgh, same thing here at USC. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: focuses it on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And Jaden Mayava, good player in his own right.
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  Speaker 1: But Elijah page six foot seven, 320 pounds. He started
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  Speaker 1: 24 games already over his college career in all of
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  Speaker 1: them at the left tackle position. You know, that is
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  Speaker 1: a matchup that I'm curious to see how that goes
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  Speaker 1: because we've talked about Jacob Lane, a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a sleeper for the Huskies, has some twitch to him.
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  Speaker 1: If the Huskies are going to be able to pull
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  Speaker 1: off the upset, I do think that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to get some pressure on Mayava and for some
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  Speaker 1: type of turnovers because, of course, Washington has really struggled
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  Speaker 1: to run the football. And so this might be a
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  Speaker 1: game where DeMond Williams is going to have to switch
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  Speaker 1: from Clark Kent to Superman if the Huskies are going
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  Speaker 1: to have any type of chance at matching the points
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  Speaker 1: I expect USC to be able to put up.
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: FoxSports.com as well as, of course, the Triple Option podcast
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  Speaker 2: and so much more. Good stuff this week, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds great, buddy. Take care.
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  Speaker 2: That is Rob Rang. We'll take a break. Don't forget,
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