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- 0:00This is Money in Motion with Class Financial, a fun and informative show designed
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- 1:02com and a telephone number six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
- 1:07No charge for that initial get to know your appointment at Loss Financial.
- 1:10It will be complimentary to you. As mentioned, we are joined this morning
- 1:14by CJ Closs and Malia Quavis of Class Financial. CJ. How you doing
- 1:17this week? Good morning, Sewan, I'm doing great. How are you
- 1:19doing? Really well? Great to talk with you, Malia. Are you
- 1:23ready for the day. It looks like it's going to be perfect? Yell,
- 1:26looks beautiful. We're happy to be here. Yes, it's an exciting
- 1:29day and a great day ahead. And of course we talk about this week
- 1:33r mds, which are a fantastic, fantastic thing you need to know about.
- 1:38But there's some really, really fantastic things you can actually do with rmds,
- 1:42so we're going to get in to that in just a moment. A
- 1:45couple of things to keep in mind as we do the program. I mentioned
- 1:48the website class financial dot com. Don't forget if you ever miss part of
- 1:51the program, you can always listen back to the podcast right at classfinancial dot
- 1:55com. Subscribe there as well. The telephone number for Class Financial's office six
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- 2:05to you. You also want to hold on to that telephone number because a
- 2:07little bit later in the program we will do the Class Quiz Question the week.
- 2:09Your chance to win a fantastic prize this week a chance to win a
- 2:14twenty five dollars gift card to Cabela's that provided by our friends from Class Financial.
- 2:19Little tip if you listen closer to the show. Oftentimes just about every
- 2:22time the question and answer come up during the week's program, so listen closely
- 2:25for your chance to win. Speaking of the Class Quiz Question the week in
- 2:30excellent Programs, last week we had a great show, did a class quiz
- 2:34question week. Let's actually take a look back at last week's show get the
- 2:36question and answer there as well. Yeah, so last week we spoke about
- 2:40one of our favorite subjects, which is social security and when is the right
- 2:45time for you to collect your benefit? And everyone's ears perks up as they
- 2:47get closer to that event. So great conversation about that and the question of
- 2:53the week was true or false. If you wait to begin collecting your Social
- 2:57Security benefit till after your retirement age, which is your FRA, your benefits
- 3:02can grow eight percent per year till age seventy So true or false. Shout
- 3:07out to our winner last week, Dan Jay of Middleton was the first one
- 3:12to call with the correct answer, So congratulations to him, and listen carefully
- 3:15to today's question. You two can be like Dan. Just pay close attention
- 3:20to the program. You'll be rewarded in a number of ways, and of
- 3:23course one reward maybe a chance to win that twenty five dollars gift card to
- 3:25Kabeli. You'll also leave here a whole lot smarter, So pay attention.
- 3:29You're going to have a lot of fun. And today we are going to
- 3:30be talking about an alternative way to donate to your favorite charity for you know,
- 3:36for folks who are in retirement and managing their yearly rmds. There's a
- 3:40connection there, is there? What do we need to know? Yeah,
- 3:44so when we discuss r mds these days, it makes sense to also be
- 3:47discussing Philanthroy philanthropy at the same time, since there can be significant tax benefits
- 3:54when you combine these two elements. So again RMD stands for required minimum distributions.
- 4:00Another form of that statement is an MRD, which is a minimum required
- 4:03distribution. But when you start thinking about that, you also should be thinking
- 4:09about charitable giving. Now, before we get too deep into the charitable aspect,
- 4:13we are going to first set the stage with what kind of rm ds
- 4:16are and understand what you know why the IRS put them into place in the
- 4:19first place, and then we're going to also talk about them in relation to
- 4:24the passing of the Secure Act that went into effect on January first of twenty
- 4:28twenty. We're going to do that because there were some changes with regards to
- 4:31the required minimum distribution schedule and ages and different factors like that. And remember
- 4:38that rmds are designed to ensure that investments in your iras do not grow tax
- 4:43deferred forever. The IRS wants to begin receiving the associated taxes that have been
- 4:48deferred on these accounts at some point. So with the passing of the Secure
- 4:54Act, the IRS now requires that most owners of iras withdrawal art of their
- 5:00tax deferred savings each year after reaching the age of seventy three or seventy five,
- 5:06depending upon when you were born. Now, these ages for those who
- 5:10have been around for a while, used to be seventy and a half.
- 5:14Then it got moved to seventy two. Then it got moved to seventy three,
- 5:17with another bailout at seventy five if you were born after a certain year.
- 5:23So it's got a little confusing because a lot of people say, oh,
- 5:26yeah, rmds seventy and a half, like, oh, that's true,
- 5:30that's true, that's what it used to be, but it's just not
- 5:30anymore. So specifically, your first required minimum distribution must be taken by April
- 5:38first following the year you turn age seventy three. Now, again, this
- 5:43is assuming your RMD age is seventy three. So if your required minimum distribution
- 5:47age is seventy three, your first minimum distribution must be taken out by April
- 5:54first of the year after you turn seventy three. That is known as your
- 5:58RBD, you're required beginning date. You guys know, we love our acronyms
- 6:01in this industry. But here's what's interesting. If you do that, if
- 6:05you decide to push off your first RMD to April first of the following year,
- 6:11So let's say you turn seventy three in June of twenty twenty four.
- 6:14You don't have to pull that first one until April first to twenty twenty five.
- 6:18However, if you do that, then you have to double up in
- 6:20that year, So we don't often suggest people do this, but anyway,
- 6:25just an fyi. Another kind of update here is that subsequent rmds must be
- 6:30completed by December thirty first of every year thereafter, So just make sure that
- 6:34you know, once you've kind of bypassed that first one to the following year,
- 6:39every subsequent RMD has to be out by the end of the calendar year.
- 6:44And if you would draw less than your required minimum distribution as part of
- 6:47the passing of the Secure Act, you may owe a penalty, but that
- 6:51penalty has been reduced down to twenty five percent, and in some circumstances even
- 6:57less if the taxpayer takes the missed misdistribution in a specific timeframe. So for
- 7:02those who ever listened to our show for a while, we used to say,
- 7:05oh my gosh, you know, if you miss an RMD, the
- 7:08penalty is fifty percent and there's no exceptions, and it was just really really
- 7:13challenging. Well, as part of the passing of the Secure Act, they
- 7:16back that down to twenty five percent, and they kind of added in what
- 7:18I will call a reasonableness provision that says, and if you get it taken
- 7:23care of in a reasonable amount of time, we'll just kind of get rid
- 7:26of that penalty. And remember, your required minimum distribution is the minimum amount
- 7:31you must withdraw from your account each year, not the maximum. So certainly
- 7:38if you are already drawing the minimum or more, then when you turn our
- 7:42MD age, this is going to be a non issue because very often you're
- 7:46drawing from these accounts all ready to support your income, and so turning that
- 7:49magical age of seventy three can be a non issue for a lot of people.
- 7:55Talking this morning, Oh sorry, excuse me, No, you're good,
- 7:57Go ahead, i'd say, talking this morning with our retirement planning professionals
- 7:59for Class Financial, CJ. Closs and Malia Quavis. Thewebsite Class financial dot
- 8:03com that's klaas Financial dot com. Great website and resource to learn more about
- 8:09Class Financial. Also, you can sign up there for the weekly Market Pulse
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- 8:26this morning if you've got a question for our retirement planning professionals, gets you
- 8:30on the air at six oh eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six
- 8:33soh eight three two one thirteen ten. You're mentioning earlier CJ. How your
- 8:37industry love loves acronyms. They also love tables, don't they do. Yeah,
- 8:41we love our acronyms and tables and oh it's fun. You know,
- 8:46listen everybody I know Sean just mentioned this, But truly, this this stuff
- 8:50gets confusing. So if you have questions, call in. I mean,
- 8:52it's actually one of the fun aspects of this show is it actually is live.
- 8:56This is not pre recorded, and so you can call in and we
- 8:58can answer any questions you might have about this. But some other factors.
- 9:01Your withdraws from your pre tax I ray or from any of your retirement accounts
- 9:07will generally be included in your taxable income, except for any part that was
- 9:13taxed before before it went into the account, which is known as a basis
- 9:18inside of a retirement account, or in the case that it's a WROTH account
- 9:24with required distributions because maybe it's an inherited wroth and those wroth distributions typically do
- 9:30not have any tax. Or finally, if it's part of a qualified charitable
- 9:35distribution, which Malia will be talking much more about and is kind of the
- 9:39emphasis of our show today. But a couple just final points here. The
- 9:43calculation of your required minimum distribution for any year is the account balance as of
- 9:48the end of the immediate preceding calendar year, so December thirty first, divided
- 9:54by a distribution period from the IRS's uniform lifetimetable. This table gives U a
- 10:00life expectancy factor, which you can take that balance divided by that factor,
- 10:05and it gives you a distribution amount. Now, a separate table is used
- 10:09if the sole beneficiary is the owner of the account's spouse, so think of
- 10:13this as your spouse who is ten years or more younger than you than a
- 10:18different table is used. And also remember a new life expectancy table has been
- 10:24started to be used as of January first of twenty twenty two, so make
- 10:26sure you don't have an old one that you printed off a few years ago
- 10:28that's posted up in your office somewhere, go ahead and google the new one
- 10:33that's available. And finally, you can go to investor dot gov, which
- 10:37is a website hosted by the Securities and Exchange Commission, and you can see
- 10:41and calculate what your rm ds may look like. Or go to IRS dot
- 10:45gov and type an RMD worksheet and you can do an easy kind of back
- 10:48of the napkin calculation to figure out your distribution. Really important stuff, great
- 10:52websites, resources and information from CJ. Closs as well as malitiic Uavis,
- 10:58our retirement planning professionals, Last Financial. Will check in with Malia in just
- 11:01a moment on talk a little bit about when it comes to charitable giving.
- 11:05What's the connection there. We're going to get the details in just a couple
- 11:07of moments. As CJ mentioned, we love getting questions, love getting your
- 11:11calls, So I got to just pick up the phone, give us a
- 11:13ring. We'll get you right on the air this morning at six oh eight
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- 12:01get answers to all your retirement questions in one place, talking with our retirement
- 12:05planning professionals from Class Financial, CJ. Closs and Malia Quavis. The website
- 12:09coss Financial dot com. That's k l aas financial dot com. Great website
- 12:15resource to learn more about Coss Financial. Their telephone numbers six o eight four
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- 12:26telephon number for Class Financial six oh eight four four two five six three seven
- 12:31and the telephon number to get on the air six oh eight three two one
- 12:33thirteen ten. That's six eight three two one thirteen ten. Head down to
- 12:39Beautiful Stoton and Thomas checks in. Thomas, welcome to the program. You're
- 12:43on there with CJ. Closs and Malia Quavis of COSS Financial. Hi.
- 12:46There him the question on a qualified charitball distribution. I saw on some charity
- 12:54websites there's a form I could fill out, and I was sporntine. First
- 12:58question is can I actually contribute to more than one charity from a traditional IRA
- 13:05and can a contribution be set up for monthly distribution? Is at one time
- 13:11a year? Oh? Such a great question, Thomas. So let me
- 13:16let me kind of repeat your questions so to make sure everybody heard it and
- 13:18understand it. So Thomas's question is, Hey, I've heard that I can
- 13:22fill out a form and work with a charity to do a qualified charitable distribution
- 13:28of a retirement account. But can I do this monthly? Or can I
- 13:31do it to just one institution or multiple institutions? How does that work?
- 13:35And so, Thomas, what I'd say to you is it depends on your
- 13:39custodian. So custodian is where your money is held. Think of this as
- 13:41like Fidelity or Schwab or something like that. Sometimes they will not like the
- 13:46administrative burden of accomplishing this, I'll be frank. It is administratively burdensome to
- 13:50these companies. However, assuming they don't throw up any walls relative to the
- 13:56administrative burden, which you know, like we don't, right, don't create
- 14:00walls for that, then the answer is you can do it however often and
- 14:05to as many organizations as you want. As a matter of fact, something
- 14:09that we've started to do with some of our clients is actually set up what
- 14:11we call a check writing non tax withholding IRA. All that means is you
- 14:16put money into an IRA, it's it's in a money market fund, and
- 14:20then you get a checkbook on it, and every time you write a check,
- 14:22there's no taxes withheld because we assume that is your QCD checkbook, which
- 14:26is pretty slick right. Then as you get those opportunities to give you can
- 14:31just write it out of your IRA QCD checkbook and then you just kind of
- 14:35have to manage the ledger, so to speak, of of what's happening throughout
- 14:39the year. So to answer your question as often as you want to as
- 14:43many entities as you want, you just need to keep track of that and
- 14:46then notify your accountant. Because the custodians don't typically break out what went to
- 14:50a charity and what went to you. They'll just say, here's how much
- 14:54came out of the IRA, and you're ten ninety nine, you have to
- 14:56tell you your accountant. Hey, of the forty thousand that came out of
- 15:01my IRA, twenty thousand went to charities. The other twenty thousand came to
- 15:05me. And then that's what controls your taxes. So remember, folks,
- 15:07you cannot qualify this as a QCD and also simultaneously take a deduction. That
- 15:13would be double dipping. The benefit here is that you're not taking an itemized
- 15:18deduction. You're actually just not paying tax on the money when it comes out.
- 15:22So I know I rambled there for a little bit, Thomas, but
- 15:24hopefully that answered your question. Ask another question absolutely, Oh, you said
- 15:31I have to write a check myself. Can there be no? No,
- 15:35you don't have to. I'm talking about different ways to do it. You
- 15:37can you can work with the custodian to say, hey, I want to
- 15:41have this sent to a third party because it is it is a third party
- 15:43distribution. It's not coming to you, right. So a QCD is going
- 15:48directly from your IRA to the charity, so you can fill out paperwork with
- 15:52them to have them send that check directly to the charity from your custodian.
- 15:56But what I'm saying to you is that is the administs of burden I'm talking
- 16:00about, right, every time I want to add a new one, I've
- 16:03got to fill out new paperwork, and then i want to change the amounts,
- 16:06and I've got to fill out new paperwork. So sometimes it can be
- 16:08easier to set up a checkbook IRA. But you know, listen, I'm
- 16:14on the air. I'm already getting too detailed. Uh. Talk to your
- 16:17advisor, talk to your custodian and UH and they can help you, you
- 16:19know, set it up in the way that's best for you. Thomas,
- 16:22Really good question, great call this morning. You two can be like Thomas,
- 16:26join us on the show. I gotta speak up. Don't give us
- 16:27a ring. Six oh eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six soh
- 16:30eight three two one thirteen ten. Gets you on the air with CJ.
- 16:33Closs and Malia Quavis, our retirement planning professionals from Claus Financial. Their website
- 16:38class Financial dot com. That's k l Aasfinancial dot com. And the telephone
- 16:44number six oh eight four four two five six three seven. No charge for
- 16:48the initial gets to know your appointment at Claus Financial. It will be complimentary
- 16:51to you again their number six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
- 16:55So I've got time also to get you on the air at three two
- 16:56one thirteen ten. That's three two one teen tensil. CJ did a great
- 17:00job laying out RMD's card minimum distributions. Tom has called about qcds, and
- 17:06I think folks say, okay, what do rmds have to do with charitable
- 17:07giving? Leiah. Yeah, so there are a lot of people unaware of
- 17:11this opportunity. Obviously, our caller is right on top of things, so
- 17:15I love hearing that. But given the fact that higher standard deductions actually increased
- 17:21back in twenty eighteen, a lot of people stopped itemizing. There's still about
- 17:26twenty two percent taxpayers that do itemize their taxes, but for a lot of
- 17:30people, when those those standard deductions were rows for a couple, that's up
- 17:37to twenty nine thousand, two hundred for single fil arts fourteen thousand, six
- 17:41hundred that gave way too. Are there other ways perhaps for me to lessen
- 17:47my tax burden? So hence comes in the idea of perhaps utilizing a QCD
- 17:52or qualified charitable distribution as a potential way to have lesser tax burden. So
- 18:02first of all, we want to shout out that we personally are not accountants,
- 18:06however we interact with them frequently, but you should check with your own
- 18:10accountant and see if the strategy might make sense for your situation. So a
- 18:15little a little history about qcds. They were made permanent back in twenty fifteen
- 18:22with the Path Act protecting Americans from tax hikes. We love that disclosure there.
- 18:29A QCD gives gives you the opportunity to transfer up to and this is
- 18:33a new new amount this year, up to one hundred and five thousand dollars
- 18:37per taxpayer in twenty twenty four. And again this has to come directly from
- 18:44your IRA, which is held by custodian to a qualified charity. So if
- 18:49you're married, you know that rises the potential up to two hundred and ten
- 18:56thousand from a household, so one hundred and five thousand personal limit, though
- 19:00applies to the sum of all the qcds contributions over the course of the calendar
- 19:06year, so you obviously don't have to give up to one hundred and five.
- 19:08We just want to make it clear that's the most you can do this
- 19:12year. A donor can make one large contribution or several smaller ones like our
- 19:18caller asked about, over the course of the calendar year, and that's only
- 19:22available for iras and individuals who've reached seventy and a half years old. So
- 19:29you're going, well, okay, I thought we're talking about rmd A and
- 19:33that's risen to seventy three. Well, qcds are available starting at the age
- 19:37of seventy and a half, so a clear distinction that was not adjusted when
- 19:42they adjusted the RMDH. But unlike conventional rmds where you are paying taxes,
- 19:49this is the whole idea here. If you give directly from that IRA that
- 19:55custodian directly to your charity as long as it is indeed a charity, those
- 20:00qcds are not subject to federal income taxes, and the amount processed does count
- 20:07towards your RMD distribution line item. So the point here though is that these
- 20:15these funds do need to be out of your IRA by your rm D deadline,
- 20:18which is the thirty first of every December, so you got to get
- 20:22those out. You can't wait till April of the following year. And we
- 20:26like to point out who's eligible to receive those donations so it will count as
- 20:30a QCD. Those would be five oh one c three organizations, houses of
- 20:34worship. Children are not on that line item, or your friends and family,
- 20:38so keep that in mind. And also donor advised funds. Those are
- 20:44not permitted to receive qcds on a tax advantage basis. And as CJ mentioned,
- 20:51you know you don't also get to take the charitable deduction. You do.
- 20:53You can either do qcds or you can make charitable contributions, but you're
- 20:59not going to get both. And then finally again follow up on what CG
- 21:04mentioned about the tax documents. People many times will have their advisor make these
- 21:11contributions from the custodian to the charity and then they kind of forget that they
- 21:17did these. They count and gets the paperwork, but doesn't really see anything
- 21:22but rm D distributions happened. It is up to you or hopefully your financial
- 21:26advisor can can help you along this way to make sure that those are recorded
- 21:30so that you do get credit and not have to pay taxes in that tax
- 21:34here. Keeping records very important to talk about this kind of imparting. YEA
- 21:40talking this morning with our retirement planning professionals Malia Quavis and CJ. Closs.
- 21:45Of course they come to us from Class Financial the website class financial dot com.
- 21:49That's k l Aasfinancial dot com. Fantastic website to learn more about Class
- 21:55Financial. Also, if you missed part of the program, you can always
- 21:56listen back to the podcast right online US Financial dot com. And of course
- 22:02they're telephone number six O eight four four two five six three seven. No
- 22:04charge for that initial get to know you appointment at Loss Financial. It will
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- 22:12seven. Donor advised funds here to mention what exactly are they and how can
- 22:17they help us save on tax as we'll get some details from CJ and Malia
- 22:21next as Money in Motion with Class Financial continues here on thirteen ten wib A.
- 22:29This is Money in Motion with Class Financial, a fun and informative show
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- 22:42Quavis. The website coss Financial dot com that's k l Aasfinancial dot com.
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- 23:19five six three seven. Talking this week about our mds when it comes to
- 23:25charitable aspects of it and UH. The term donor advised funds came up in
- 23:30the last segment, What are they and are there opportunities CJ to to save
- 23:34taxes by using them? Yes, So you know, Meline did a good
- 23:40job there of lining out what is a QCD. And I think it was
- 23:42Thomas who called in earlier with a great question about you know how that functionally
- 23:47works and you know how you give and who you have to work with to
- 23:49make it happen. But I want to create a clear line in the sand
- 23:53here because literally this very morning, I am dealing with a confusion around what
- 24:00we would call like above the line ways to give above the line. By
- 24:04the way he talks about your adjusted gross income is the line, so above
- 24:07the line ways to give to charities and below the line itemized ways to give
- 24:14to charities. So when Malia is talking about a qualified charitable distribution for those
- 24:19who are seventy and a half and over directly from their IRA to a charity,
- 24:23that is happening above the line above your adjusted gross income. So therefore,
- 24:29if forty thousand dollars comes out of your IRA and twenty thousand went to
- 24:33a charity, you are only paying tax on twenty thousand. The other twenty
- 24:37thousand dollars goes to the charity and never shows up as taxable income to you.
- 24:41It is a huge monumental benefit to you to do it that way.
- 24:47I cannot overemphasize that enough. However, for those who are maybe not yet
- 24:52seventy and a half, meaning they're not eligible to do qualified charitable distributions,
- 24:57or for those who have an unbeliev pievable spike in income, think I sell
- 25:02my business and have a liquidity event, or I do really great in my
- 25:04sales job and get a huge spike in my income. This is where donor
- 25:10advised funds come in, because a donor advised fund is no different than doing
- 25:14an itemized gift to a charity. Now, but the key is that the
- 25:18standard deduction is so high that most amounts that American families give don't itemize up
- 25:25to be more than the standard deduction. So your charitable giving is great.
- 25:29I'm thankful you help the charity, but it doesn't help you on your taxes
- 25:32most of the time. Well, if I have a huge year in income
- 25:36and I want to do a larger donation, but I don't want to give
- 25:38it all away at one time, this is where a donor advised fund comes
- 25:45in. I could take Now I'm going to talk big numbers, but just
- 25:48stick with me. I could take and put one hundred thousand dollars into a
- 25:52donor advised fund, which is a charitable entity, get the deduction for putting
- 25:56the money into that donor advice fund as an itemized deduction in that calendar year,
- 26:03but then it sits in the DAFF until it goes to its final resting
- 26:07place, which can happen over the next ten years if you want to.
- 26:11So think of it as pre giving into a holding account. You're pre giving
- 26:15into a holding account maybe your next five or ten years worth of charitable gifts.
- 26:21And the reason you're doing this is because you had the spike in income
- 26:22and you wanted to bring down your taxable income and save all that tax.
- 26:26So I just truly cannot emphasize to everybody enough on this show. If you're
- 26:32not our MDAG yet but you're very interested in philanthropy or charitable giving and you
- 26:37have higher spiking income years, donor advise funds are a spectacular way of addressing
- 26:41what we call tax bunching. You are bringing multiple years of donations into one
- 26:47year, getting way above the itemized deduction level and getting a significant tax benefit
- 26:52for doing so. Any statistics and things to note there, CJ. Yeah,
- 26:56So just a couple things here before we finish up. According to a
- 26:57study by National Hilanthropic Philanthropics Philanthropy Trust, in twenty nineteen, there were over
- 27:06seven hundred thousand individual donor advice funds in the US holding more than one hundred
- 27:10and fifty two billion in AFFT in assets. So giving from dafts now accounts
- 27:15for over twelve percent of all individual giving in America today. Also, for
- 27:22those who are thinking to this themselves, ooh, I'm going to merge a
- 27:26required distribution with a donor Advice Fund contribution. So as they tell me I
- 27:30have to pull money out of MYRA, I'm just going to send that to
- 27:32a DAFT. You can't do that, So that's one of the prohibited transactions
- 27:37that are out there. And also contributions to a donor advice fund are irrevocable,
- 27:41so don't do it lightly. You want to make sure that you're not
- 27:44going to need that money for yourself later on. And there are other ways
- 27:48to give, by the way, we're talking about above the line and below
- 27:51the line, but there are if for our lawyers sitting out there, they're
- 27:53like, what about split interest trust like charitable remainder trust and charitable remainder annuity
- 27:59trust. So there are different ways you could give where you can get some
- 28:02benefit now but also give some benefits to charities upon death. But that gets
- 28:06much more complicated than we have time for today. So hopefully for those who
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