Latest / The Driven Athlete / Natalie Addison on Elevating Fitness Game & Yoga Practice | Ep 32

Transcript

Natalie Addison on Elevating Fitness Game & Yoga Practice | Ep 32 · The Driven Athlete

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what this podcast is for you.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Y'all?
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: It's your man, dr Kyle.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Driven Athlete Podcast.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: We've got a really cool guest with us, natalie Addison, local legend.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: She's opening up a cool new gym facility in West Palm Beach which we'll dive into.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: But thanks, I know you're busy, so I appreciate you coming in sharing some insights.
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for inviting me.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: This is awesome.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited to do this interview and be a part of something that you're creating.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Cool, I appreciate that.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I mean we were talking earlier bridging the gap and getting some different feels and vibes from other fitness industry experts and then kind of collaborating and getting it all together.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's I mean from what you were saying, because you've been doing the fitness industry for 15, 20 years in this area Right, so you're super experienced and have a lot of knowledge and insights of the local fitness in West Palm Beach area and from what you were saying not really going on right now of like a lot of collabs and synergy.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Is that accurate?
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've been in this fitness industry for over 15 years.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: Some of it started up in Philadelphia, new York, and then came down here.
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: And when I came down here I noticed that the culture of Florida is so vibrant and active all year round.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: So for us in the fitness industry there's people that are fit everywhere.
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: There are people that want to be active everywhere all year round.
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: And as I came down here and I got into the fitness industry, I noticed that there wasn't as much synergy with the chiropractors and the PTs and the trainers and the yoga instructors, almost as if everybody kind of had their own niche.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm like man, I really love connecting with other people in this community.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: I would love to bridge the gaps between things and also I know that not everything is within my scope.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: So over the last seven years that I've been here, I've kind of had these little like collective groups of like these chiropractors and these PTs and these yoga instructors and almost like building my little fitness Rolodex of people to be able to call out.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: And, and a lot of them I've actually personally used myself so that when I refer I understand what work I'm referring.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: So that's been a really cool way to integrate myself into Florida, into West Palm Beach, into the surrounding cities, is be able to call those people, get work done by them or have them train me or take their yoga class, and be able to speak, like from my personal experience and refer those people.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: That's like my.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: One of my biggest passions is to connect with other people in the community and share each other's like passions for our niche and then be able to like create this synergistic relationship where I can be like hey, what's your thoughts on, hey, what's your thoughts on?
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: And we can bounce ideas off each other.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally that's awesome.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're definitely very similar.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: Totally that's awesome.
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're definitely very similar in that.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: Let's backtrack a little bit Origination story.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: Are you from Philly originally?
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm from Philadelphia, right outside in the suburbs, so are you an Eagles fan.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Actually I was raised a Dallas Cowboys fan.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: What.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never went, that's dangerous.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: It's so dangerous.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: I love football growing up, so like Aikman Irving, Emmitt Smith, all those guys.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: Those are my guys, yeah, same.
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: Wore a Dallas Cowboys starter jacket to school.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Got made fun of.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: Got made fun of but wore it.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: That's pretty brave.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very brave for a second grader.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm from outside of Philly, rais second grader.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah and um, I'm from outside of Philly and raised a Dallas Cowboys fan.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: Still love all football teams.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: But, um, I my origination story.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: I was a dancer my whole life.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: I played sports my whole life.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: I loved fitness, but I love dance heavily.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: When I was 18, I actually got my first job.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: I danced um like two weeks right after high school I worked in a theme park and I danced in a show up there in upstate like New Hampshire.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: And then after that I worked on cruise ships for about three to four years after cruise ships.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: I did lots of you know, different theater shows, casino shows.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: I worked in all over New York, jersey, philly, that whole area and I knew at some point that I was going to have to cross over into a different career because you can't dance forever and your body doesn't hold up the same.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: And around the same time that I decided, you know what I think I want to bridge this gap with fitness was around the time where I ended up having a back injury and that back injury really set me back in my dance and I didn't fully understand it.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: And at that time I had a close relationship with a chiropractor and PTs and I looked to them for help and I asked them to help me through it because I wanted to.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to stop from the show that I was working on and I learned my way through all of my my back stuff and what was going on and there was.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: So there was a.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: There was a lack of education actually in the dance community about core and about strengthening it and about hypermobility and about how that can affect your body.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: So I decided you know what, I'm going to take this injury and I'm going to learn from it and I'm going to go into the fitness career.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: So I ended up leaving dance about 30, which is when I moved down here, but I had started in the fitness community in like 2009.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: So it's been quite like about 15 years.
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: But after leaving the dance community and getting into fitness, they're similar you know body awareness, but different, and I felt like I could understand so much more about my body and other people's body after learning the anatomy.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like got so hooked on it.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is really cool because now I can help people like myself that are in their passions, or want to play their tennis or want to golf, and they're having pain.
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like I don't you know.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: I want to be able to make them feel strong and fit, and so my story of pain is actually I learned through that and now I still have those same injuries and I can help educate others.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Like finding that bug of like man, this is cool.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: Let me like dive into that.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: Can I learn more about this?
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: And then can I apply that to like the thing that I think is cool and I love and we're like.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't really have much I don't know what much as I could have had right in my athletic endeavors and your athletic endeavors, that's really cool.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: I had a very similar moments my athletic endeavors and your athletic endeavors, that's really cool.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: I had a really similar moments, you know.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: So then you all right, so you moved down here then when you started your fitness thing in 2009, or after that no, 2009, I was in New York.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: I went to this school called National Personal Training Institute and it's really cool because they do a.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: It's like hands-on learning and then education from the NSCA books.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: So you study the book and then you go into the gym and do hands-on training.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: So I was there while finishing a show in Atlantic City and then after I think it was like 2016, I moved down here and my thought was I want to move to West Palm, because I had been dancing on cruise ships and I knew all of the cities in Florida and which ones were a little bit more vibrant than I wanted and which had, you know, was a calmer demeanor.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: And I felt like West Palm was kind of up and coming and growing and I noticed that in Florida everybody was so active and in Philadelphia people kind of hibernate in the winter.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: Still love my Philly people, but they they hibernate in the winter.
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: Um, still love my Philly people, but they they hibernate in the winter.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: And then, like February comes around and they're like it's it's bikini season and in Florida I felt like we could work on just health overall year round.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: So I wanted that year round, like people coming and reaching out to me around.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: So I, um, I moved down here for for that reason and also because I like working with an older population and there's definitely an older population down here because I understand you know their injuries and the pain and how to be empathetic and work through some of that and, um, I know that that population lives here.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: So, and the beach I mean who wouldn't want to move down here for the beach?
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: So all those things collectively I was like, okay, west palm's my city that's cool.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: Um, well, uh, and since then developed some relationships, right um.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: I know we have mutual relations with ryan confordi, right, jujitsu owner.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: He was on your podcast a couple weeks ago.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Um, I know you've worked with some collapse with with uh, eric cressy and palm beach gardens, right um.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: And then district fit another really thing that uh, past five years has been getting more popular, right um.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: And then local personal training gyms and crossfit gyms.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: So then, when you first came down here working with, were you doing your own thing, seeing clients on your own, like just individually?
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Were you working with you working with a gym?
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: Were you?
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: And then when'd you get in CrossFit and then start doing yoga, like more intensely?
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: So when I first moved down here, I actually picked up a gig, part-time working with Lululemon, because that was my way to kind of integrate myself into the community and I was actually their community lead.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: So I was responsible for making relationships with every single gym and I knew that that was going to be my way to be able to collab and connect with everyone and get to know everyone and then make my decision about where I wanted to work.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: And Lululemon has always been like a really great supportive brand, understanding that your vision is going to be bigger than Lululemon.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: So they, they knew that at some point I was going to leave and, you know, take on my personal training role, again full time.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: And the first, the first job I think I took on part time was teaching at a kickboxing a TKO gym in Palm Beach gardens.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: The second thing that I took on was I became the fitness director of the beach club, which is a country club on Palm Beach Island.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: So it's a very different group of people.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: It's a way different club from a TKO.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I went from like hit training to like corrective exercise real quick.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: But I love that.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: I love being able to bounce back and forth, and at that time I was also going through yoga teacher training because I felt like that yoga had always been my thing, that I could call on when I needed it, when my back was hurting me was hurting me, and at that time I didn't really understand why now, knowing it helps so much with spine mobility and strengthening, and that there's so many different styles.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: So I went from TKO to the Beach Club.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: I worked at the Beach Club for a while and then COVID hit and they had to shut the gym down and then I kept working with my clients and my clients followed me.
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: I worked over at One Fitness and now we have our own gym Movement West Palm Beach.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: So I've kind of jumped a little bit all over but as like a fitness supporter, I have probably dropped into almost every gym and yoga studio in West Palm Beach just because I love to support people in our industry and I think it's so cool to have relationships with each other and be able to speak authentically about who they are and be like.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, go over, see Chelsea at yoga path.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, check out Savannah and Derek at CrossFit squad.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: You know, and I love to be able to say everything that I know from experience about using those gyms or those yoga studios.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: So, um, I made my way around, uh, west Palm beach and some of Palm beach gardens and some of Delray and, you know, popped in everywhere.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: But now it's really cool to have my own home base and be able to create my own vibe and be able to have that synergy within my space, because we have trainers of all different variations and a physical therapist as well, and I created more of this calming aesthetic with plants.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: That really makes me happy.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: And over the years of working in so many gyms, I've kind of figured out like, all right, I've worked in all these places and I've seen all these amazing people.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: How can I create that in my own space and be like you know what?
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: This system may not have worked, this type of model may not have worked, these colors may not have worked and taking all of that information and figured it out in a way that would work best for both, um, my fiance, nick and I, and then develop that from there that's cool.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: So, like a definitely an eclectic approach.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, put everything together.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: That's like I like this, not that, but I like this.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Put it all together in a pot, put it in your own personality and culture, and then you got movement with spawn beach.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where is?
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Where's the gym located?
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: So we are located on 1600 North Dixie Highway, unit B.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: It's basically if you are driving down Flagler from the North Bridge, heading north, there's an apartment complex called the Slade.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: You just turn left and it's right down that road.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: So, if you're thinking of like landmarks, it's kind of Palm Beach Lakes and Flagler.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: So really close to HSS right.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really close to HSS Gotcha.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: And all of those yeah.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: So we're pretty close to you guys too, then.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: We're on Palm Beach Lakes.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I know it's really close.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: I was thinking I was driving here.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: We're like really close, that's cool yeah.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Um so, and the doors?
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: When are?
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: When do you think things are be ready to go to open doors?
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: We we actually opened on April 1st like a soft opening.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Um, and we have, uh, we've been, we've been crushing it.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, um, my book, my fiance's book, we're both really full.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Um, we have a few other trainers and a physical therapist on staff and we've been working and integrating these trainers over the last eight to ten months on the back end and doing some trainings all together, and it's been really cool for the last week and a couple of days to be working in the space together.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's nice to see each other here and there for a little training, but it's so different to be working in the space together.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Um, because it's nice to see each other here and there for a little training, but it's so different to like be in the gym and like look up and look over and you're like, oh yeah, check out Jen.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, look at Daenerys.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: It's like good to have that energy and it feels nice to have you know how it is here.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Like you, you, there has to be days where you look up and you're like man, this is badass.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you, you, there has to be days where you look up and you're like man, this is badass, yeah, this is cool.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is cool, it's all working together, yeah, um.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: So describe movement West Palm beach like culture, personality.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Is it only one-on-one personal training?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Is it only yoga classes?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: what describe what y'all doing?
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: So movement, west Palm beach.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Obviously, movement is the basis of everything, um and what we do.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: So I like to like, I like to encourage movement of all ages, of all kinds, for all people, and we like to take in those clients.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Some of those clients will go through a movement screening with our physical therapists and then from there the trainer will watch that physical therapy intake and then they'll best discuss a plan of action on how to move forward.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Not everyone necessarily needs the movement screening but, as you know, most people do.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Some kind of conversation going on?
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, usually, so it's mostly one-on-one training.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: However, we are allowing for some small groups and we're going to be coming up with some time frames to be able to do small groups to be able to.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Not everyone can afford personal training rates and I understand that, so I want to be able to be a little bit more inclusive with that and also just having smaller groups can sometimes be more fun when you bring your friends.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: More energy and stuff.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And some accountability.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean like personal training, for sure, like people get personal trainers for a lot of reasons and one of them, from my understanding and also for us, it's the accountability it's like hey, where are you?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know like we're also going to use the space.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: If you, if, if you or any of our listeners come to the space, you'll notice that half of our space, everything, has wheels on it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So all of our benches, our cardio pieces, our dumbbell racks, our squat racks are foldable, so that we made our space convertible so that we can teach seminars in it and we can rent out that space for seminars.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: So if anybody um people within our space and people outside of our space, anyone that we believe in, that we have relationships in that want to teach seminars, we want to be that host in place for it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: So we have that too.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of um personal training, a little bit of small group and then events.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: And then we're also going to be doing a lot of work with charities, so a lot of local charities.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We already have some conversations going with Special Olympics.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: We'll also be doing some stuff with Jack the Bike man and some bike rides We'll be doing.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: What else do we have Inner City Innovators I work with and fundraise for.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I also started their yoga program for them.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: The Hope Dealers I don't know.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Shout out to the Hope Dealers and then we'll be doing a lot of collaborative community stuff within our space too.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: So it's not just training, it's also like a fitness hub to be able to raise funds for other people to be active as well.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about your yoga journey.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you started yoga journey.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Um, mobility, some strength components, right?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Like applying it to what your back injury in the past, right?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Some of the motivating factors Um, what so you guys, you're doing personal training and you're also doing yoga, maybe small group and one-on-one yoga.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Then at movement, you have your own clientele outside of movement.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Still like, well, tell what your yoga.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So my it's funny Cause my, my personal training since I have since I personally have, you know, all of my strength training certs, all of my, my yoga certs and my FRC mobility I can use at my own discretion.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: You know what that client needs.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Um, I don't necessarily do that much one-on-one yoga in our space just because the vibe is up and you know it's bumping and it's going.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So a lot of the private yoga sessions that I do are often in people's homes or at a time in the gym where we can turn the energy down, because it's so much better to have calming energy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But I would say, for my yoga journey with my back injury, I noticed, even though I was very, very hypermobile, I noticed that there was places in my spine specifically that I was moving more from, and other places in my spine that I was not moving at all from.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen this.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: And so I decided to do yoga teacher training more so because I wanted to know more about the anatomy of the yoga and understand, like, why do we do this posture, why do we do that posture?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Because I've done so many yoga classes, I understood how to sequence, how to flow, how to put things together.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to understand on a deeper level of how can I serve my client, and if I'm going to do 30 minutes of strength and 30 minutes of yoga, I want to know exactly what yoga I need for that client to make sure I'm doing it like for the right reasons.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: So the yoga journey was more so I wanted to educate myself more in that realm so that I could bring it to my clients.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And then I took another step further.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I went to FRC mobility, which is functional range conditioning, so more about the control and articulation of a joint, so that people, especially yogis yogis out there that are very hypermobile teaching them how to control their mobility by articulating the joint with like with energy, being able to activate the muscles and control it, versus just sink into their hypermobility and elongate everything.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Like stability at the end range.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stability at the end range and stability overall.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: And then on the on the flip side, there's these athletes that you work with that are already really strong and really tight, and mobility would be to open their range of motion and further their range of motion and increase stability.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You know all of it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: It all goes hand in hand.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: But yoga then made me realize how much more hypermobility is in is is in that industry, which then made me steer towards frc interesting yeah that's cool um, so just what's your?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: there's different types of yoga right um, describe some like yen yoga.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You're describing vinyasa, vinyasa.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yoga is definitely not really my thing.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I never really got into it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: That much wasn't really my thing.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, describe the different types so yoga at its root is it root is actually about breath.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: A lot of people always think yoga and they think like yoga postures, like they think it's all about the postures but at its root it's about breath.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: A lot of people always think yoga and they think like yoga postures, like they think it's all about the postures but at its root it's about breath.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: A lot of it is diaphragmatic breath and so when I, when I started yoga, I didn't really know that because I was thinking of like, oh, I do all these postures, I sweat, I work out.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So when I went to yoga teacher training, I learned about the principles and the philosophies and the history of yoga and I went to a vinyasa flow yoga, which is a series of postures that you can sequence and you build from and it's more of a flow type yoga that you can build strength, you can build mobility, you can increase flexibility and you learn how to breathe in periods of time where your body is, you know, maybe muscularly shaking or you're tired, and you learn how to calm the nervous system by calming the breath.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So that's vinyasa.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And then yin yoga is another specialty that I have.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: That is more about even deeper into the diaphragmatic breath, so long, slow diaphragmatic breaths, maybe even sometimes holding the breath, relaxing the nervous system, and all of these postures are held from anywhere between two to five minutes long.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So these postures are a little bit more passive and that type of yoga goes into more of the connective tissue versus vinyasa is about using the muscles, moving, flowing Yin is about finding stillness, and they say stillness in your mind, stillness in your body.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So maybe you're in that posture, perhaps you're in pigeon pose Everyone knows what pigeon pose is.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You're holding pigeon pose and say you're a person that's incredibly tight Yin.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: They would come up, they would bolster you and put little platforms underneath your body, specifically for your body, so that you could stay there for three to five minutes comfortably and then let your nervous system calm down and the connective tissue over time, which has like pressure on it from holding that posture, slowly and slowly and slowly releases.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And that is probably my favorite to teach.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Even though I teach vinyasa every Saturday at Rosemary Square, I love teaching yin because we have these, you and I, busy day to day.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Go, go, go, fast, fast, fast fast that no one takes the time for an hour to just sit.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And even though you're not sitting.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You're sitting in uncomfortable postures it teaches you a lot about what happens up here and like all the thoughts and things that you have stored here, right, right, let's go All the time.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, slanging and banging barbells.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: After it, chalky dirty.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I was like all right, everyone, we're going to sit here for three to four minutes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: What.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: You know, and it's.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: It's cool to see that they're like teaching themselves how to slow down and calming their mind and calming their breath.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But there's so many other forms of yoga but I'd say the most popular is vinyasa.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: But yin is something that I would highly suggest to athletes that are already incredibly strong and incredibly tight, because it gets deep into that connective tissue and it's pretty safe if you're bolstered, versus a vinyasa class could be heated and if you have heat and elastic connective tissue that's not the best combo.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So I'd say yin can almost be a little bit safer for the body with the proper propping.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Supports and stuff.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: And you work with a lot of professional athletes.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself doing more yin or vinyasa with those athletes?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I actually or does it depend?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends, but more so with the athletes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Just to get them to slow down at all is great.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: So sometimes I'll start.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sneaky.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll start with vinyasa to gain their trust if they ask for yoga, and then I make the suggestion over time that yin might be a better move for them.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Um, but every once in a while I'll get like an athlete's doctor or manager or someone else that has suggested yin from the start and I'm like, yes and, and I, I go right into yin.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: But most of these athletes it's yin because they're high level athletes.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Their brains are going all the time.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: They're constantly in states of fight or flight.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: You know, they've, you know, got to snap the ball, they've got to move, they got to make a decision, you know.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Or they're a solo athlete where everything, their total outcome, relies on them.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Um, a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure and stress and yin is like the decompression yoga and there's such a long, calm, soothing feeling that you get afterwards almost as if, like you could maybe go to bed or you could just calmly go about your day and that's.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: That's really like the athletes, I think, that have not experienced that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: When they do experience it for the first time, they're like whoa.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I need more of this in my life.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like, then, some of the biggest benefit of the yin yoga is tapping into the parasympathetic, getting the nervous system to calm down, a meditation type of feel.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And then the added benefits of the mobility where they need it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, totally Interesting, yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And then the sometimes I'll do a little half and half um, while I'll start with active mobility where, um, you know, they're igniting the muscle they're using, moving through range of motion stuff.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Everything's active, it's hard, it's slow, it's, you know, very catered towards what injuries they have.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And I actually have relationships with these athletes, pts and I go and I call them and we talk over everything that I've found and what they've found.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And it's really cool to have those partnerships because I'm like, oh, I saw, yeah, the right tibia, totally locked, wasn't moving.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I did a little bit FRC with this and we get to collab on it and I know that I have that support from that PT that I can go to and be like I noticed this, what did you notice?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And that's really cool.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: But we'll start with the active mobility in some of these sessions and I go through that and it's like the hard work.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And then the second half is the yin, so it's not maybe a whole hour of calm, breathing.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It's like a half an hour.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Blend it in.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Blend it in and then at the end sometimes, especially on the first session, I don't tell them I'm going to do a meditation.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I just go into it, I just, you know, like, stay, like you know state, like, place your hands anywhere on your side or on your body, close your eyes I'm going to place a towel over your eyes and then I start talking and sometimes I do a guided meditation, which is one that takes them to a place like an actual physical place, so then their mind isn't thinking about anything else but what I'm saying, and then they can completely disconnect from anything from their day, from their thoughts, and take themselves to that place.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And then I let them sit there for a minute or two calmly and then they finish out the session and at least for that one hour they can disconnect, like they're not like thinking about plays or thinking about did I pack this or you know, and it's really cool to see.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I love that feeling of looking up especially in my community yoga classes and seeing everybody relaxed Cause I'm like you guys deserve this, like everyone deserves this and this is what everyone needs, but doesn't necessarily take the time to do.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So where does that passion come from?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Um just your own experiences, your back pain as a dancer.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I am also my own client Because, like I have always gone, go, go, go, go go, because I have so much passion for what I do that if I don't have, like you know, the yin yang where there's, like you know, and the bad, you know, like yin is that slow if I don't have yin, like I would not.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Be well, the yang is just taking over yeah, the yang takes over because I have so much passion for what I do and, um, even my fiance.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: At times he's like, hey, look at your schedule this week like you're going nuts, you're going crazy.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: That I need I know that I need to take time to decompress.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I know that yin or yoga or meditation or taking a 20 minute meditation in my car is just like what I need to be able to keep my body, my mind, my nervous system like on track and so some of that comes from my own personal experience that, like I'm so passionate about it but I think more so I see the results that it gives people and it makes them more effective in what they do.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Results?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: In what way?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Results in their tissue quality, results in their joint mobility, their ability to move biomechanically.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And then I would say, like their mental status, like mental health, is a huge component of it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: And when we have all this yang energy, go, go, go, go go, and we don't ever slow down, eventually it catches up to us, right For sure.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: That have similar vibes, not like all the same vibes, but they're trainers that I have watched over a long period of time and I see they practice yoga, they do meditation, they strength train, they run sprints, they run long distance, they'll take a boxing class, they'll do.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: They're very versatile and I think that those trainers really, because they do so much and they know so much, they can bring their scope into that whatever is needed for that client and um, they understand the yin and the yang.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So similar culture, I mean a rooted culture that's very similar of everybody, um, and I, so I definitely can agree and attest, like as a busy person, you know, like yourself, uh, an entrepreneur, you know, business owner, um, the clarity of direction, decision-making, um, and then the willpower cup that gets depleted daily, you know, uh, which affects decision-making, and then clarity, and then frustration and stress, anxiety.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It all come with that totally.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So the meditation component, I'm sure, sure for you, then the clarity that comes afterwards, or that it's helpful yes um to to make the right decisions.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: You know um and so for your pro athletes, then high level athletes, the same kind of clarity benefit, I would assume oh, yeah, yeah, and sleep quality huge.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Some athletes that I work with I suggest sometimes, depending on the person, I suggest they do their yin session at night if sleep is an issue, because yin is a great way to just calm that nervous system, like chill everything out, decompress, you know, and then you can kind of make your way to bed.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, and I make myself available at those times for those reasons because I know that that's going to help them get to sleep more.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And if they sleep better, they're better being active the next day, Um, but in these athletes sometimes you know the time some of them choose to do it, like first thing in the morning, makes them feel mobile and fresh and good to go for the rest of the day and that's their active recovery day, which is a great way to recover and have clarity for the rest of their day.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: And even if some of the breathing techniques or the principles that I talk to them about, even if they take away 20% of that into their season or wherever they're going, I'm grateful that they learn that, that they can take that with them.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It can still be a benefit.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can still be a benefit.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I mean anyone.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I could virtual FaceTime anyone and do a meditation benefit.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I mean anyone.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I could virtual FaceTime anyone and do you know a meditation.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: But the true test is like do my clients take what I do with them on the road?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Can they do that on their own, and I love being able to teach my clients um, even non-athletic clients, you know, uh, like you can do this at home.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Have you tried this app?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Have you downloaded the calm app?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Have you done this?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You know you can.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I've sent YouTube videos to people when I know they're in stressful times, cause I'm like, hey, I know, like we train three times a week and I haven't seen you in a week because this is happening in your life.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: But if you're having a hard time sleeping, this is a great pre-sleep meditation, guided meditation, and it's like I know that that's not every trainer's approach to things, because it's not everybody has that, you know and and, but it's, it's definitely more my approach personally With some of the athletes that you get referred to.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: what are some of the main questions they'll come up to you with?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Like hey, so we're going to do yoga, right, I've never done this in my life, you know.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So it's funny because a lot of athletes that come to me always don't necessarily want to do yoga.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: They're like this is dumb.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I can imagine.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it Like they're high performing athletes.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Super intense like this is dumb.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it Like they're high performing athletes, Super intense, like you know football, basketball, you know team sport, Yep, and it makes sense.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: They're like, but normally and I've someone, a mentor of mine, told me this before a long time ago Normally the thing that you're not choosing to do is the thing that you need to do, and it's like if you're not doing it, that's probably the thing you need to do to break down whatever barrier it is that you need to get through onto the other side and I would imagine that's born out of like I'm not good at it, or I'm fearful that I'm going to fail at it or not be good at it, and it's going to expose some, some things.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Um, anyway, yeah, it's very vulnerable.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yoga is vulnerable because people get athletes and people get nervous and the first thing that they say is oh, I'm not flexible and I'm like it doesn't matter, like if you have a body, you can do yoga.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be a reason why you should?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: But look great, let's get started.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: They see on Instagram.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: They see these girls with their leg, like on the side of their head you know absolutely can't do that.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not me and that's what they think yoga is, and so okay, so the one message you want to convey, then yeah, um for the same questions you know so yoga is for every buddy and every body like and that if you have a body and if you have breath, that's all you need, because really the root of yoga is breathing.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: You could choose five postures a day that were super simple, but if you could sit there and calm your mind and breathe in them, that's yoga, and breathe in them, that's yoga.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: And any yoga class that you go to, where that class is above the level that you're at, that just might not be for you and you need to find a class that is for you and seek that out and understand that maybe you're not where the person is next to you.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: That's totally okay, because their journey and your journey and your body and their body are like totally different.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: So when these athletes or these clients come to me and they ask for it and they're nervous and they're vulnerable, I'm like we're just going to take it one session at a time.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And we're going to get to a place where you realize, oh my gosh, I remember when I couldn't do X and look, you know, and that that's about.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: The yoga is about the journey of getting from where you were to where you're going.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: It's not like, uh, the posture, like, oh my God, I can do warrior too, like so much better.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: No, it's like oh my gosh.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I remember when I was having such a hard time breathing in this and my shoulders hurt and I ached and and now I can sit in it comfortably and take a deep breath, like and that equals less pain in my body, right?
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, translates Um, that's interesting.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I definitely can see.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely agree that the mental component, the mental health, the, the mental aspect of sports and just performance and stuff, and also, just as a high performing entrepreneur, mom and dad, dude, that is the separating factor, cause a lot of people are super athletic and mobile.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I just was talking, we have, we've had professional, uh, mental health professionals on here and like definitely get in their insights and I'm like yo, this is so under weighted.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like that now is definitely a culture.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It seems like streaming to that, you know, it's like oh yeah, my therapist said this too.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: It was like you're going to therapy, oh, that's awesome, you know.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Versus like well, I don't want to go into therapy, you know?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they must be crazy.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It was like dude, I Like the yoga component, especially yin is going to be another avenue and tool to tap into the mental clarity decompression, exposing some things that maybe are causing stress and anxiety that's going to limit your performance.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: It's just an avenue to maybe work on that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: And even in the yoga world you can get super into the yogic world, super into the yogic world.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I kind of stay in the middle between the yoga world and the fitness world and and can take my conversations more in a streamlined way to cater towards athletes, Like I'm not talking to a quarterback, being like we're going to align your heart chakra, Like I'm like cause.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I know that he's going to be like what Different, yeah, different person Culture, your heart chakra like I'm like, because I know that he's gonna be like what different, yeah, different person um culture yeah, but I know that also at the same time, if this whole area is super tight and all the muscle tissue around it, it has something to do with the energetic feelings that you're holding in that area.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: 100 you can't separate the mind from the body.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, and some of that stuff is what you're going through.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Some of that stuff is stored past stuff, um, and that that energy that's storing in your body, like energy is, it's it's energy.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I mean you can, and when you move, you move energy.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: So, or when you breathe, you're breathing into your diaphragm and it's opening parts in your body in a calmer way.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: So yoga and mental health and meditation and all of these slowing down components and therapy are definitely all incredibly underrated.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: And you know, for all the people out there that think that therapy is like, oh my gosh, I'm not going to go to therapy Almost every single pro athlete has a mental coach.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: They they can call them, you know, some of them are therapists, some of them are mental coaches in their sports.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: However, it's therapy in some regard.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: So you know, even the highest paying athletes that are performing at the highest are using these coaches and they, they wait for these sessions, like to go into these sessions like, oh, this is going to be great.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to feel better, and I think yoga is also the same way.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: It's just not talking.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it's working through your own energy your own stuff, and sometimes people prefer that over going to a therapist.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I think both are great, um, but it's definitely the the underdog of the health world for sure.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: All of those things Totally Great analogy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: The underdog Totally.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: It could be a total game changer once you tap into that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: In my opinion.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Um, so what do clients that want to, um, seek you out, right?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: What questions do they usually ask you?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: They're not high level athletes.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: There's moms and dad, active people you know they want to improve their life and stuff and improve their fitness and journey.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: What do you, what do they usually ask you?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: So many things.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Um, I love, uh, the general population questions because they're very curious and they want to know what can I do?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Like I want?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I want to get toned Toned is a very common word.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I want to be fit, I want to lose weight, I want to be strong.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: You know all the things that they come to you about.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: They.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: They know what they want to look like or feel like, but they don't know how to get there.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: So you're their guide and, essentially, you have to educate them on those things that they need to do in a scientific way.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Like you need to explain to them, especially, you know, with women.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: More specifically, so many women think cardio, cardio, cardio, cardio, skinny, skinny.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: You know it's like no, it's about being strong.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Like we lose so much muscle tissue as we age, with all of the hormonal changes.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Like you need to lift, you need to lift weights.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: You need to understand the science behind lifting weights and why it's good for you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And you know, and the men come to us and they're like I want to lift, I want to lift, I'm like we need your heart to be healthy.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: We need your heart, you need some cardiovascular work, you know mobility to mobility?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, because you know you can bench like 250 and run a 10 minute mile, but you can't move your shoulder behind your back.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: So I they come to us for guidance.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Personally, I can't speak for all of my trainers, but I kind of can cause I know they're awesome, um like speak from a scientific point of view, where they're like, okay, this is the science.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Like, when you gain muscle tissue, this is what happens.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Like you burn more calories at rest, you have more muscle tissue.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: You're stronger, you can live longer.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: You um have less pain.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You're stronger, you can live longer, you have less pain.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: You're going to be, you know, we're going to teach you proper biomechanics so you're not going to injure yourself.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And we go over kind of like what their week looks like.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And if their week looks like I play tennis on Monday, wednesday, friday, saturday and you're training them on Tuesday, thursday, not that it's not necessary to include cardio, but like you really need to focus on strength because they're not, they're not lifting on those days and you already know that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: So you kind of have to guide them in the way of like you lay out their week.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Um, we don't necessarily do like nutrition counseling, like I like to make suggestions.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Um, I think there's.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Everyone has their scope and trainers are not supposed to be like giving out nutritional guidance in the in the like nutrition full, like, oh, these are your macros and all that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Like I don't.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I believe that, like nutritionists are, are licensed, that's what they do, um, so another way that I refer out um, but we do make like uh suggestions like okay, let's take a look at what you're eating.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll have clients just send me each each day what they've ate.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I don't give them any feedback and then when I see them in person, I'm like you know, I give them like a general understanding of like you know, I give them like a general understanding of like this is kind of around the grams of protein that you're at per day, or you know, this is how many calories around, ish, that you're eating.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I never give macros or calories.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I just talk to them about what they can change like simple things, like okay, simple things.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Like okay, you know, sally, sally, it looks like you ate only protein at 6 PM and you had, you know, cereal for breakfast and you had avocado toast with no egg on it for lunch, and then you had chicken at night, like, and no snacks in between and one glass of water.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: All right, what are we going to work on here and make those suggestions.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: So we suggest those changes.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: But we also teach the client, because they come to us being like I want to look toned and I say so much of that is about what you're eating.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: We can strength train and work with you and guide you two, three days a week here, but what you're doing with your body at home and what you're putting into it is going to change that tone and that muscle tissue.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And if you're not consuming enough protein which a lot of women are, not men a lot of times are, but sometimes men like yourself, like entrepreneurs that are just going, going, going, eight hours can go by and they realize they haven't eaten anything.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens all the time, moms and dads.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: It's 3.30.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't eat anything.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens all the time, moms and dads, it's 3.30.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't eat lunch.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, f yeah, I was not eating lunch today.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly Because.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go home and have dinner with my kids at 5.30.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: You know what am I going to eat right now?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and your muscle that you already have.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: It's that we educate them on.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: But I'd say the biggest questions probably are like tell me how to get there?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and our facility is not one to do macro counting.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: At this time we don't have body fat testing.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I think that it's a great tool if people want to have some people are numbers people.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Some objective measures.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: They like objective measures, um, but I think, more specifically, there's a lot of people and the age range and demographic that have been coming to us are like late 30s, 40 plus, and they're caring a lot about pain.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: They want to be out of pain, right?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: So let's hear that all the time.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, I just want to be out of pain, right?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So let's hear that all the time.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I just want to be able to.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I just want to not be hurting anymore.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: It's like you've come to the right place, yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, some of that is too when the people come to us like, okay, let's take a look at their intake form and what they have going on here, and is this a they need to be in physical therapy for a while, or is it?
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: You know, we just need to mobilize our body and getting it moving again.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Modify some fitness stuff.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: It's interesting the combination you're mentioning with women in particular.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Right, because we definitely hear that a lot too, when we progress people out of like intense rehabs, like backed up rehab stuff and like progressing into fitness things, and then women are like, well, I don't want to get bulky, yeah, so bulky.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting recipe that you just mentioned where it's like cardio, cardio, cardio and also not eating enough protein.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's like dude.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Your muscle tissue is definitely not going to be as optimal as it could be.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Your muscle tissue has left the chat.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: But you want to be toned?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that comes from more muscle tissue and then dropping body fat percentage, and the recipe that's being implemented here is not set up for success with that yeah, I think what do you convey to women?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: For that?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be bulky yeah you're like you need to lift weights yeah, but I don't want to be bulky.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: So people see like women, uh, in crossfit, and they see that their muscle tissue is super developed and that's what they think they're going to look like when they lift.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: They have no idea what those CrossFit athletes do to be able to get to that body or the bodybuilders.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I use my other trainers or myself, for example, and talk about the protein that I take in and what I look like, um, and I say like, is you know?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Is this the body style that you're looking for?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: You know I'm like nope, that person lifts.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: They lift Um, and I explain the.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: The tone that they're looking for comes from the development of the muscle tissue, not because they starved themselves calorically or they over cardio themselves.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So I tell them it's not, it's not.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And especially with, like, the different body styles, I don't know how much you believe in like endo, ecto, meso.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Like all the you know, set the stage, blow the gun and then your activities and nurture pulls the trigger Totally.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like the ectomorph, the tall, long, lean basketball player.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: It's going to take so much more for them to build any type of round muscle belly than a mesomorph.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: And a lot of these women that come to me, some of them are already ectomorph.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: They're already tiny, small frame, long, tall, lean and they're like I don't want to look bulky and I'm like it's not even in your genetic makeup, like that's not going to happen.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Right, and I also have used, like previous clients.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I worked with a client when I was younger, like right, when I first started in like 2011, she was 74 and she entered a bodybuilding competition Wow and I trained her and her coach was her nutritionist.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I did nothing with nutrition, I just trained her for it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: The amount of protein that she had to eat to go from a tinier 74 year old woman to look how she did on stage was disgusting.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: How much?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, it was like a hundred and 80 grams a day.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like in the in the bulking phase of, and it was like she was eating boiled chicken breast at breakfast.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: You have to.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And even still her muscle bellies didn't build to be like they were lean, but not even bulky.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: She was 74.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And so I explained to women like I show them sometimes her picture and I'm like what does this look like to you?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: And they're like she looks really fit and I'm like she was eating 180 grams of protein a day and they're like what you know and I use examples from previous clients that I have and I don't do you know suggested macros, but I do know that if you're eating close to your muscle tissue in grams, that's a pretty good measurable number and some women aren't even consuming 40 in a day.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: And they think that protein is like what's going to make them thick, yeah, and they think it makes you lean.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: It makes you lean If you add that in with the resistance training, it's going to be way more effective for reducing the body fat percentage that you want and then exposing some more developed muscle tissue underneath.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: That's the tone that you're looking for.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I think one thing about it, too, is like I've.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, 180 grams of protein.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: That's a ton, right.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: So much.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Let's back this down.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Just for reference for people to understand.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Let's say you did 160 grams of protein right.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: That's four meals a day of 40 grams of protein per meal.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: 40 grams of protein from chicken, that's a crap ton of chicken right Like you have to be at least one protein shake.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's 40 grams right there.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: You need three other meals of 40 grams per meal.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: What's their 10 grams per a protein per egg?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Is that about accurate?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little less.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Like eight maybe.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: So you need like five eggs.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was eating like five eggs and a piece of boiled chicken at breakfast.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then a protein shake.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: That's a massive protein shake, right, and then more boiled chicken or beef or something like that for lunch and then again for dinner these crossfit athletes are also consuming higher levels of food intake too.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: That like, and these you know, you see, these, these bigger, thicker, fitness women, they're consuming enough to keep their muscle tissue on purpose.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: So I love, I love to be, and we part of movement west palm beach.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: We, like, changed the vibe in our gym and added some calming colors and plants and made it more approachable for women, because that's intimidating yeah, it's intimidating and I feel like when women walk into our space, they're instantly like oh okay, this is calm.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I feel good here I feel good here, and then they instantly like, feel more comfortable talking about those things and and I, most of the times when women walk in, like tone is a word that I hear all the time, and I don't want to be bulky is the next sentence and I'm like trust me, I got you I got you get there you won't get there, like we'd have to be training like six days a week.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: You had to consume this much protein.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: You'd have to have this genetic makeup, like we're good and, like I was two things I was thinking on.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: That too is like a lot of men like dudes right, they want to be more muscular and be jacked like instagram models and I'm like it takes a lot of work for those guys to get there and they have like triple the amount of testosterone that women have and it's still hard for them.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: You're already set up for not being as muscular, developed potential and you're concerned you're going to get more bulky than that I know exactly like.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: You're not even close yeah, the other thing I'll do that or that I've done in the past with some people I've worked with previously, but, like google, an image of a sprinter athlete female oh, I say this too and then google of a marathon runner, athlete like high level, right, and if you were to look at this girl, you know, just like on the street, wearing street clothes, like man, she looks good, she's fit, you know what I mean, she toned.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And there's other ones, like you know, thin, skinny, like they do power training, resistance training, for sure, and they're eating a ton of protein.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: And this person only does cardio.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Based on what you're saying, like what do you feel like your goal, that you want?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it sounds like this.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: This is what you gotta do.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think all these things combined yes I use pictures, though, because I say like, do you appreciate this or this?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: And most of the time they're either looking at the sprinter's butt and they're like, wow, that's nice, or they're like wanting something in between and I'm like, okay, well, we're not running marathons daily, so that's out, and we're not.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: You know, we're not going to be eating and consuming food that way either.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: So and we're not an Olympic level.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, resistance and power training.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Like this Olympic athlete, you're going to be a great fit for this middle ground.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly Like you are the middle ground.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to use that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: But there's there's also, like on the flip side from women, there's also men that come in with this like oh well, you know, back in the day, I used to do this, this and this, and sometimes they think that their body is still capable of those things.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: However, they haven't done that thing, and it's like if you don't move it, you lose it in some capacity.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: So there, when they come into train, men often want to be able to do things that they used to be able to do, that they can no longer do, and that they also want to get fit too.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: But it's more so, I find, the women that are looking for the figure, and the men looking for the ability to be able to golf, to be able to run again, to be able to play with their grandkids, to be able to, and women too, they want to do those things, but they're mostly already doing them.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: It's the men that of like the 45 and older category that are looking to get out of pain, to have more joint mobilization, flexibility, all of that stuff.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: So sometimes they come in asking for oh yeah, well, you know, I used to be able to do this.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I'd love to get back to being able to do that again, whether it's like oh, I could bench this, you know, whatever that might be their specific goal and we could add some programming in to get back to that goal.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: But as a trainer, we have to be their guide to prioritize the things that they need to do first, before that.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's lay out this plan, this progression.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is going to?
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: take some time.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting with that too, like it's very similar.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a guy, previous athlete, and I had to redefine what I considered workouts, where it's like, well, I used to be able to do this in college.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: So if I'm not doing these types of things, my workouts or this amount of weight, then I'm not really working out.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: It doesn't count.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I really didn't even do anything, you know, but I just can't like, it's just not realistic anymore and also not necessary.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: No, not necessary, especially if the goal is to like, not hurt anymore.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: It's like you know, I got two kids games on the floor play Barbie and stuff.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine if dad's back's all jacked because he decided to do whatever at the gym.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: So, anyway, if this helps anybody at least, like redefining what you consider to be a workout, and then not your self value and self worth not embedded in what your bench press number is.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I can't bench what I did in college.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Therefore I am less of a man.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, like it's not true, that's so not true, but the second that they start to see results in their everyday life.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: They forget about the bench or the squat or the deadlift.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: They forget because they're like oh my gosh, I played three rounds of golf this week.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I crushed it.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I'm hitting it farther.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I have no back pain like I bet I play with my kids today and I had so much energy in the backyard, like and to me.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Like, when people come to us, they ask for physical results and then in return they get these results that are actually happening, like in front of their eyes, that are not off, like I'm losing inches.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: They lose the inches, they lose the body fat, they get the muscle tone, but they realize that they can actually have a better quality of life.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, wow, I could live longer and do more and participate in all the things I want to do.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: And it took me kind of getting out of my head and like setting down the ego to be able to get to this point, being vulnerable with another person.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: And that's why, like, the relationships that I have with my clients are very personal super authentic super authentic, like I know everything about their families.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I actually spend sometimes more time with them than their own kids do if they live in other States, you know, if I see them three days a week and it's, it's a lot of time and it's um and it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: It feels nice to have those relationships with people in the same way that I have relationships with people in the community.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: But you have those same relationships too, because you're working with people and getting someone else's family member out of pain so they can go back and do all the things that they love doing, and it's a good feeling, that like giving feeling, of knowing that you're rewarding them back with their life again.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, totally, that's awesome.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Well, that's really cool and we can definitely tell you're super passionate about what you do helping people get it back, get your own vibes going and your own spot at movement.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: If people well, I appreciate you coming in We'll have to have round two and deep dive more into some of the other fitness stuff that you've been doing and other collabs and things.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: But if people want to reach out and learn more about Movement West Palm Beach, how they can talk to you and your gym and stuff, what's the best way for them to reach you?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: They can add us on Instagram.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: We're Movement West Palm Beach and we're spelling it M-V-M-N-T-W-P-B, so no vowels, no vowels.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Or you're welcome to email us at letstrain at movementwestpalmbeachcom.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: You could follow me on Instagram.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I'm Natalie June Addison on Instagram and we have a lot of awesome trainers that we can pair you with and there's going to be a lot of events and seminars.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: So, like everyone can follow us and we'll do tons of things in the community that, like, everyone can come to.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: And you said you're Rosemary Square every Saturday.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I teach yoga every Saturday, Rosemary Square, 10 am.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: It's community-based, donation-based yoga, so it's all levels for all people and there's days where we have 70 people.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: They closed down Rosemary Ave and our mats are aligned all along Rosemary Ave and it's one of the biggest collaborative classes and my it's like my baby and all the people that are there are such good people and there's some great relationships that you can make.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: So people in West Palm if they're looking to get started in yoga, it's a great basics class and um afterwards people kind of hang out and connect after.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Great way to just get some exposure.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming in, thank you so?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: much for having me Definitely to come by and check out your spot and um, and if y'all have any questions, you can always reach out to us.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: We're always open to suggestions, comments, other topics.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: When we talk about conflicting opinions, we're always about that stuff.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: So definitely reach out.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: If you're in any pain, we'd love to help you with that too.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: And don't hesitate to reach out to ask questions about what you're battling.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: And our phone number at 561-899-87.