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The Twot Seat: ZACK WICKHAM (The Valley) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of the twat Seat,
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Speaker 2: and today we have the one, the only Zach from
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Speaker 2: the Valley. My last name, I don't even know your
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Speaker 2: last name?
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Speaker 3: What's your ENDSTA follows so people can follow you because
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Speaker 3: when they become obsessed with you after this.
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Speaker 1: It's at zach Wickham.
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Speaker 2: Just zach Wickham.
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Speaker 1: If it's on TikTok, it's at the zach Wickham because
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Speaker 1: some stupid gen z person got to it before me,
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Speaker 1: and that person can go to help.
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Speaker 3: But whatever, Am I a millennial?
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Speaker 1: You're a millennial nineteen eighty one?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't think I'm as old as Hamra.
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Speaker 1: You're a You're what they call an elder millennial. It's
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Speaker 1: like it's it's actually like a you know, cute term
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Speaker 1: because I feel like we're I'm like, you know, borderline
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Speaker 1: elder two, and I feel like we're the ones that
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Speaker 1: have to try you.
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Speaker 2: Zach thirty nine, Oh yeah, you're real old, you know generation,
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Speaker 2: but you have what I have a son that's sporty.
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Speaker 3: All right, before we start, Zach, we have a question.
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Speaker 3: This is a white couch are you going to be okay?
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Speaker 1: You listen, I've never shipped on furniture before. You should
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Speaker 1: be more worried about maybe my spray tand coming off.
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Speaker 1: But also yeah, I was like but other than that,
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Speaker 1: like actually I already showered, yes, or like today.
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Speaker 2: Showered three and a half weeks ago. I found it
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Speaker 2: really refreshing that you admitted it.
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Speaker 1: Also, why would you not?
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Speaker 3: Because it because we thought he was crying.
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Speaker 2: Well, she thought you were crying out your bathroom, and
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Speaker 2: you lied and you didn't shit your pants, And I
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Speaker 2: go Zach was not crying in the bathroom. He would
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Speaker 2: have said he was crying in the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: Also, I would have just cried at the table. Why
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Speaker 1: would I know? It's like, she's never never covered my
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Speaker 1: tears anywhere else? Why would I cover?
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Speaker 3: Right? I wish we could make Zach cry today. Bummer.
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Speaker 1: I love Zach.
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Speaker 3: I like it, but I love when he I'm so
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Speaker 3: happy he cries. I think when we get to the
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Speaker 3: fertility and respect of this, we're gonna get so.
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize how tall you were.
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Speaker 1: The first thing anybody says when they meet me is
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how tall you are? And then the
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Speaker 1: second is you look a lot better in person.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 2: People say the same thing to me. I don't realize
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Speaker 2: how short you are. You look so much better in person.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, whatever, Oh, I feel so sorry for both
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Speaker 3: of you guys.
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Speaker 1: What do they say about you, Teddy?
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Speaker 3: They say to me, you look frail and chubby at
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Speaker 3: the same time. We don't know how you did it,
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Speaker 3: but thank you to cancer. You're really killing it. My god,
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Speaker 3: you made it another year.
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Speaker 2: I actually did so. You so my bestie than you Teddy.
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Speaker 2: That works for me. Kayden Randon. Are you guys coordinating?
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Speaker 3: And that's right?
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Speaker 1: I all of a sudden, like because we had met
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Speaker 1: at Bravo Khan and then all of a sudden, I'm
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Speaker 1: like going through Instagram and he's in hilton Head. Nobody
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Speaker 1: is ever in hilton Head. I'm like, wait, dude, I'm here.
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Speaker 1: I go every year. I've gone to hilton Head every
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Speaker 1: year since I was three years ald.
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Speaker 3: We never saw each other. Where do you I mean
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Speaker 3: don't say.
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Speaker 1: Say Sea Pines? Yeah? I love Sea Pines? Wait? Did
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Speaker 1: you go to high school there? Yes? I went to
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Speaker 1: prep No way, yes, so you know night Heron right
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Speaker 1: behind it. That is where we stayed my entire life.
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Speaker 1: I used to back there. I need to play at
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Speaker 1: your all school all the time.
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Speaker 2: You grow up over in that area.
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Speaker 1: I grew up in Louisville, Kentucky.
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Speaker 3: Everybody from Kentucky and Ohio goes to the hilton Head
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Speaker 3: for vacation.
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Speaker 1: It's either like the hilton Head is like kind of
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Speaker 1: like the fancy or like children whatever and then or
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Speaker 1: like Florida it's like.
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Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach where the Mellencamps go.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's where when parents get divorced and the mom
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Speaker 3: gets a little bit of Monday, when daddy's rich. Then
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Speaker 3: you make it your full time.
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Speaker 2: Why don't you take me there?
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Speaker 3: We could go there there? Did you go to the
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Speaker 3: mont there? It's so nice, but it's kind of far.
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Speaker 3: It's a little yeah, it's a little too out of
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Speaker 3: my but yeah, I.
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Speaker 1: Thought that was crazy, and then he told me that you.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize you had grown up there?
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Speaker 3: Did you go to the triangle?
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Speaker 1: Triangle is my favorite. Whenever I say the Triangle, this conversation,
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Speaker 1: if you want to take a bathroom, Blake, now's the time,
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Speaker 1: real quick. We'll just we'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: But you guys, let me know when you're done, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna have Well, the Triangle is the best place.
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Speaker 1: Like it is, It's it's so much fun and it's
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 3: I definitely lost my V card after the Triangle.
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Speaker 1: Really is the Triangle? It is a not triangle of
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Speaker 1: bars that basically that's the only place on the island
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Speaker 1: where you can go and have.
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Speaker 3: It's like a Riley's. There was a dance club and
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Speaker 3: then what was the other place.
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Speaker 1: There's like there's like five bars in the like small
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Speaker 1: or like.
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Speaker 2: But it's in a triangle. Is that where you met Caden?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? We hung out there. Yeah, we went to the
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Speaker 1: Triangle because I was like, we have to go to
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Speaker 1: the triangle and he was like, what the fuck is
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Speaker 1: the Triangle?
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Speaker 3: No, the Triangle is the best place. Even still when
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Speaker 3: I go home, I'm like, do we want to go
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Speaker 3: to the Triangle so we can see everybody I ever
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Speaker 3: grew up with or.
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Speaker 1: And the thing is everybody goes out to that one place,
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Speaker 1: and so almost every night it's gonna be packed at
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Speaker 1: some point where it's like you know, like now if
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Speaker 1: you go out, maybe it'll hit or miss. No, it's
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Speaker 1: always a hit on at least Thursday Thursday. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like you're going to hit and it's gonna be like
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Speaker 1: a two thousand's club, lavilla club.
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Speaker 3: You'll be like dancing on the bars like we go.
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Speaker 3: I don't think I can dance on top of bars anymore.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sturdy enough.
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Speaker 2: It might not look cute, but I can do it.
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Speaker 3: I bet you can't.
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Speaker 2: I just can't see.
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Speaker 1: Somebody just has to make sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, Triangle was like my first fake id, Jade, that
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Speaker 3: was your name. Yeah, and she had like brown hair
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Speaker 3: without like your scared hair, and she was like forty five.
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Speaker 2: And how my scared hair was what the eighties? Remember
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Speaker 2: the eighties when we oh, you don't know, well, he kind.
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Speaker 3: Of has scared hair, but face the opposite way.
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Speaker 2: At least you have real hair.
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Speaker 1: I have terrified hair.
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Speaker 2: We know you have good hair. Can you pull on it.
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Speaker 1: For a second, just to go like, do you want
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Speaker 1: to do you want to come over and pull?
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Speaker 3: Just give me a little ike.
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Speaker 1: Okay, here, I'll just pull for you.
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Speaker 3: That's not aggressive enough, you know, well.
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Speaker 1: Andy Comen was aggressive enough. I like he like literally
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Speaker 1: got in there and pulled out. Was like, okay, everybody
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Speaker 1: should know that it's not a wig at this point.
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Speaker 3: Where I have to say, it looks better than it
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Speaker 3: did your first season.
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Speaker 1: Everybody believe.
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Speaker 2: That's what what was wrong with it the first year.
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Speaker 1: He had a line right now, you guys have no
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Speaker 1: you guys have the clip where she talked about my
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Speaker 1: hair because I got said it and you were like
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Speaker 1: I did. Oh it was yeah, roll that in between here.
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Speaker 1: I'll give you a second. Okay, there's that didn't right,
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Speaker 1: It's okay, what did I say?
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Speaker 3: She said she's been on your dick since she met Kayden,
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh, I have been on
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Speaker 3: his dick since Caiden.
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Speaker 2: Why is Matt turning red.
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Speaker 1: Because you got called out about my hair? That's why
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Speaker 1: not the dick?
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Speaker 2: Well, I like your hair now.
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Speaker 1: No, don't worry people think that like I didn't see
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Speaker 1: what my hair looked like. I know what it looked like.
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Speaker 1: I am well aware. It was very much like Daniel Boone,
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Speaker 1: like what's going on up there? But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: Number One, I'm lazy and I didn't want to like
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Speaker 1: constantly do my hair.
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Speaker 2: Number two, Oh, Matt's a lazy gay too.
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Speaker 1: I'm such a lazy guy.
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Speaker 2: My dad, yeah, her dad that Matt's a lazy gay
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Speaker 2: because he isn't dressed nice for a gay guy. He
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Speaker 2: thought when Teddy was in the hospital, I came with
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Speaker 2: Matt and this is right after she had sprain surgery.
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Speaker 2: Thought and yeah, he thought she was so camp, thought
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Speaker 2: that we were a couple. And he goes, no, I'm
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Speaker 2: actually gay. He goes, you're you don't dress very nice
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Speaker 2: for a gay guy.
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Speaker 3: I like, because I woke up from Teddy trance and
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Speaker 3: I was like, lazy gay.
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Speaker 2: When you hit your head, I went like, when I
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Speaker 2: watched it, I had to watch it three times. Did
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Speaker 2: they have to shave like your hair?
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Speaker 1: This I'm telling you, if you're gonna get injured. Portavarta
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Speaker 1: in Mexico, get injured there.
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Speaker 2: I went there, I went to the last one. I
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Speaker 2: broke my foot.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you know how nice it was clean. The
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Speaker 1: staff is like the most attentive.
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Speaker 2: What time of the day did you go it was?
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Speaker 3: It was in the middle of the night there there,
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Speaker 3: like one or two in the morning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I was. Yeah, and they're just so clean.
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Speaker 1: It was not even one block over from the club,
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Speaker 1: not even they did it so fat they got I
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Speaker 1: was in out and that's include paperwork and everything. Within
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Speaker 1: like thirty to forty minutes, they were holding the strippers.
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Speaker 1: They were like, okay, don't please, don't leave. The strip
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Speaker 1: said the birthday boy will be here, like please wait,
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Speaker 1: and so.
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Speaker 2: It was your birthday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy because when I got hit, we
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Speaker 1: had been dancing all like we were on an expressway
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Speaker 1: then in the city, and they had said there might
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Speaker 1: be some leaves, but you can do anythings. There's no obstructions.
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Speaker 2: What did you actually hit your head on?
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Speaker 1: So there are so many different accounts. It is actually
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Speaker 1: the green light. It was actually the light.
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Speaker 2: Do you think I said you were not maybe a
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Speaker 2: little intoxicated, It would have been way worse at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it would have. It would have hurt probably exponentially more,
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Speaker 1: because I mean I was we had been drinking for
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Speaker 1: over an hour on a busy.
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Speaker 3: But you've probably been drinking during the day too, like yeah,
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Speaker 3: like I was. Yeah, there's no why.
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Speaker 2: I was like fifteen shots in with Shannon and Vickie
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Speaker 2: when I jumped into the CHACUZI naked and I jumped
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Speaker 2: in and it was only two feet deep, and I went, oh,
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Speaker 2: I just broke my foot and Shannon's like, what do
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Speaker 2: we do about this? And I'm like, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: And then I tried to get out of the jacuzzi.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't even walk.
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Speaker 1: It was that bad.
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Speaker 2: Oh it was broken half.
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Speaker 3: But I thought yours looked like immediately it was like
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Speaker 3: pouring blood. I don't know what they even put on
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Speaker 3: it to, like it was some dirty rag or something.
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Speaker 1: No, so what you don't see is Jason's like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, here she takes off her shirt and that's
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Speaker 1: what I'm using is a shirt, and then that dirty
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Speaker 1: because of my blood there was. I was wearing all black. Actually,
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Speaker 1: let me give you a little backstory. So that day
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Speaker 1: I was supposed to be wearing the outfit that Jesse's wearing,
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Speaker 1: and then I was like, no, I'm not really, but
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Speaker 1: like you know, like I was like, here, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: wear this, and I want to wear something else because
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Speaker 1: he didn't bring any like slutty clothing or whatever.
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Speaker 3: So I did slutty clothing.
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Speaker 1: I mean gays have like you know, it's a cut
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Speaker 1: off or a you know, let's or yeah, slutty, but
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But so we had changed.
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Speaker 1: He had like I gave him white pants. Thank god,
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Speaker 1: I was in all black when it happened. I didn't
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Speaker 1: think white underwar it is.
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Speaker 2: I would never But he could have borrowed a Jesse's
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Speaker 2: baggy underwear.
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Speaker 1: I could have he upgraded that though.
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Speaker 2: I know, thank god.
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Speaker 1: But there was blood all down. I didn't see. My
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Speaker 1: entire leg was red, my entire side was red. But
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Speaker 1: I just wasn't focusing on I am fine. And then
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Speaker 1: they were like, look at your arm, and I looked
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Speaker 1: down and was like, oh so when they they had
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Speaker 1: that rag, it's just the extra blood. But then the
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Speaker 1: other thing on my head is Jasmine's shirt.
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Speaker 3: But how long did you stay out after? Like when
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Speaker 3: you came back to the club, Like what was the
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Speaker 3: time frame on the filming once?
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Speaker 1: It was like another hour and it was like they're
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Speaker 1: like forty five minutes to an hour at the club,
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Speaker 1: and then we had another drive back to the hotel
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Speaker 1: which was like another hour.
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Speaker 3: What kept you so like zen in the moment because
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Speaker 3: normally you'll kind of you could possibly the.
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Speaker 1: Shit is if the thing is with certain things, if
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Speaker 1: I am if I'm feeling an emotion, or if I
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Speaker 1: have had something built up like in Mexico when I
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Speaker 1: was very hyper like hyper focused on like I haven't
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Speaker 1: been able to nobody's telling their truth, nobody's talking, and
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Speaker 1: so it had been building up and then I'm gonna,
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Speaker 1: you know, be it's gonna come out in a bat
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Speaker 1: like over the top way. But when it comes to
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Speaker 1: like crisis like crises, I'm actually like really good. I
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Speaker 1: think it comes from my executive assisting past. Like I've
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Speaker 1: worked with celebrities, I've worked with billionaires. I've worked with
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Speaker 1: like some NDA's I have haven't even fully expired, so
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Speaker 1: I can't even like, hown.
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Speaker 2: What does it take for that to expire?
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Speaker 1: It depends one of the billionaires that I've worked for.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll expire. So I just am like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just not gonna mention that just
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Speaker 1: in case.
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Speaker 3: Can we talk about some friendships?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? What's going on with you in Britain?
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Speaker 3: Like you haven't Hunter back all season.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot with like the that you
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Speaker 1: didn't even get to explore last season. The problem with
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Speaker 1: having an ensemble cast that is as big as ours
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Speaker 1: and you're trying to tell so many different stories, some
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Speaker 1: just don't make it to the forefront of what's going on,
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Speaker 1: because you know, it's just it takes a back seat.
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Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of the stuff you
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Speaker 1: would see or get more context to Britney's and I's
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Speaker 1: relationship and and why maybe sometimes we see we seem
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Speaker 1: strained or why sometimes we're like, great, you're you kind
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Speaker 1: of missed that context because it's not like that.
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Speaker 3: It's not the priority.
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Speaker 1: It's not the priority of the season. But I think
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Speaker 1: the thing about Brittany and I is we have had
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Speaker 1: some issues where I have not felt supported. I have
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Speaker 1: felt like you you say that you support me and
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Speaker 1: Janet and Kristen and whatever, but then in practice when
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Speaker 1: she's actually like needing to support me or she's needing
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Speaker 1: to support.
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Speaker 2: Janet, do you feel like she has always been there
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Speaker 2: for you as well.
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like she's more It's not like an
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Speaker 1: on camera, off camera thing. It's more of I just
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Speaker 1: feel like with Janet, she like walks on eggshells more
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Speaker 1: or kind of doesn't want to ever rock that boat,
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Speaker 1: whereas her and I are so solid, we could we
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Speaker 1: can shake that foundation all day long, and the building's
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Speaker 1: gonna stand.
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Speaker 2: It's everybody afraid of Janet like everybody's afraid of me
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Speaker 2: on my cast.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's afraid of Janet.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's I will say. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: kind of funny like people are like, why is everybody
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Speaker 1: so afraid or why uh, why is Zach so afraid
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Speaker 1: of Kristen specifically, like this new dynamic that they've like
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Speaker 1: the fans have concocted to be like, oh, I like
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Speaker 1: whatever Kristen says or does is what I'm going to follow.
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Speaker 1: And it can look like that because even when I
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Speaker 1: watch episodes, I'm like, oh, okay, I see where you didn't.
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Speaker 3: Take Christian's side at the Halloween.
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Speaker 1: Party and at the reunion, you'll see because like, if
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Speaker 1: if I don't know, the other thing is I don't know
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Speaker 1: what I don't know. So if I haven't seen that scene,
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Speaker 1: I will trust my friend implicitly, yes, until I see something.
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Speaker 3: The contrary reason, though, Brittany, who is your friend of
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Speaker 3: eighteen years is telling you, hey, that's not the truth.
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Speaker 3: You're still going to take Kristen's word for it. That's
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Speaker 3: what I didn't get.
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, and that's the thing. It's like, I
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Speaker 1: am closer with Kristen and in these at that.
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Speaker 3: Time here closer with Kristin than Brittany.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, it's like it's like a platform.
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Speaker 1: We're all three there, we're all very close. Like it
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Speaker 1: does it really like honestly, let's leave years out of it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know our friendships are just as each one of
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Speaker 1: ours is just as strong. I think in that moment
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Speaker 1: with what we were fighting about and who we were
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Speaker 1: fighting about with, it's like, yeah, I'm going to take
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Speaker 1: Kristen's side because all these other people have been lying too,
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Speaker 1: and I know there's misinformation. Now Kristin has you know,
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Speaker 1: you'll see like me take Christen's side, but then you
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Speaker 1: also see her kind of like not lie, but like
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Speaker 1: minimize minimize it. And I think at the reunion you're
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Speaker 1: going to get a lot more context to that because
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Speaker 1: we talk about it.
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Speaker 2: But Teddy thinks that you don't trust Brittany as much
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Speaker 2: because of the guy that she was dating. No, has
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Speaker 2: never trusted judgment anymore.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to say i'd never. I
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Speaker 1: don't trust her judgment when it comes to dating, to
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Speaker 1: seeing the good or bad in people, because she will
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Speaker 1: always see the good until the bad is like bubbling over.
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Speaker 2: You know what, I wear that dress and that's.
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Speaker 3: What Sorry, we're going to the reunion dress.
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Speaker 1: Sorry listen.
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Speaker 3: I obviously she doesn't have a good gay to ask
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Speaker 3: what to wear.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying I'm a bad day. See now I
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Speaker 1: understand why you don't like her. But this is why
16:46
Speaker 1: people don't like you, Teddy. You know what you have
16:50
Speaker 1: me with the cancer. You've lost me. You lost me
16:54
Speaker 1: post cancer. Teddy not likable, not just sad.
16:58
Speaker 3: Again, here's the thing.
17:04
Speaker 1: I think each person has their individual style and what
17:07
Speaker 1: they feel comfortable with and what they like. And Brittany
17:10
Speaker 1: has looked back and she's like, I don't care if
17:11
Speaker 1: other people don't like it. I love it. And that
17:14
Speaker 1: is what styles all about. It's like it's what you feel.
17:17
Speaker 1: And you know, like back in the day fashion police,
17:22
Speaker 1: half the stuff that they said was terrible or like
17:24
Speaker 1: over the top. You know what I mean, it's your own.
17:27
Speaker 1: It's people don't like my shoes, don't like any they
17:31
Speaker 1: have because he's young, like me, Yeah he.
17:35
Speaker 3: Is, he's young.
17:36
Speaker 1: Yeah he's awful.
17:40
Speaker 3: We like to pretend young.
17:42
Speaker 1: You know, it's what suits us. But my thing is
17:46
Speaker 1: I feel like, everybody has their own personal style, and
17:48
Speaker 1: I hate when people come so hard instead of doing
17:53
Speaker 1: like Joan Rivers would have made fun of it but
17:55
Speaker 1: had fun with it and not taking it. And that's
17:58
Speaker 1: what Brittany does. But people take it to this level
18:01
Speaker 1: of just I mean, I.
18:02
Speaker 2: Only say that because people are being so mean on
18:05
Speaker 2: social media and I shouldn't like engage with that. It's
18:09
Speaker 2: it's not the worst dress I've ever seen. Oh I
18:12
Speaker 2: need a new dress for my next confessional, and I'm like,
18:15
Speaker 2: it's I'm beside myself.
18:16
Speaker 1: It's just please, don't.
18:20
Speaker 2: I already did.
18:21
Speaker 3: I don't.
18:21
Speaker 2: I've never want to suit type. But I know what
18:23
Speaker 2: you're talking about.
18:23
Speaker 3: I know I made fun of her too.
18:26
Speaker 2: Did you make fun of Kyle?
18:27
Speaker 1: Yep? Wow, I can't see why you have a problem
18:31
Speaker 1: with likability. I know.
18:32
Speaker 2: I mean, she don't know why her friends don't like her.
18:36
Speaker 3: I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You
18:39
Speaker 3: always are, no, but you love me.
18:42
Speaker 2: Oh, fuck, here comes an insult.
18:44
Speaker 3: I was like, no, we're actually we're stopping that.
18:46
Speaker 1: That's it. Oh.
18:47
Speaker 2: I thought maybe you had an insult.
18:49
Speaker 3: But I was something I wore. Really, I was going
18:52
Speaker 3: to ask if I'm seeing you on Friday? Are you
18:54
Speaker 3: and Janet and that good of a place or not?
18:55
Speaker 2: Did you get invited to her birthday party? Because we did?
18:58
Speaker 1: This is surreal that you're asking about this right now.
19:03
Speaker 1: And I was going to call her before I came
19:05
Speaker 1: on this to see how I wanted to handle this
19:07
Speaker 1: situation right now. Well, no, because I think that's I
19:11
Speaker 1: don't want to gotcha moment for her. Because her and
19:14
Speaker 1: I have been trying to repair our relationship and have
19:17
Speaker 1: been working towards it, and with Brittany and her publicist
19:21
Speaker 1: and that whole debacle, we all obviously came together and
19:24
Speaker 1: we're there for Brittany, and Janet was there, and we
19:27
Speaker 1: all when we have a crisis, that's when we're at
19:29
Speaker 1: our base.
19:30
Speaker 2: Jack stating the publicist.
19:31
Speaker 1: Okay, So we put it all aside and we and
19:34
Speaker 1: she invited me to her birthday and it was great.
19:39
Speaker 1: And then yesterday she she's like, you're not invited to
19:43
Speaker 1: my birthday?
19:44
Speaker 3: Text?
19:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because you're talking about me.
19:48
Speaker 3: No, And I was like shit, I said her husband
19:51
Speaker 3: was hot today, Well he is, whether I was.
19:55
Speaker 1: Like, wait that he is. He's hot, whether she's doing
20:00
Speaker 1: this or not, he was doing it nice to be like, well,
20:04
Speaker 1: he's a hot shit talker, Like no, but here's the
20:07
Speaker 1: thing she sent me, and I'm not I'm now talking
20:10
Speaker 1: about it on a podcast, so like, I'm not gonna
20:12
Speaker 1: make it bigger than it is. Okay, great, great job, Zach.
20:15
Speaker 2: This is all Why did she feel the need to
20:17
Speaker 2: send you a text to tell you you're not invited?
20:18
Speaker 1: So this is what happened. She sent it, and I'm like,
20:21
Speaker 1: she's like, you've been ship talking. I'm like, I literally
20:24
Speaker 1: have actually been very.
20:25
Speaker 2: Good in uninvited, yes, and.
20:30
Speaker 1: Then now uninvited because I was actually gonna go with
20:32
Speaker 1: Katie Janella and because we were going to go together
20:35
Speaker 1: because Katie got invited, and then she was like, oh great,
20:38
Speaker 1: I'll like I'll just go directly with Zach cool because
20:40
Speaker 1: he's invited. And then she also texted Katie and was like,
20:44
Speaker 1: don't bring Zack, and she's like what just happened? And
20:47
Speaker 1: then whatever, So I get a text about that and
20:50
Speaker 1: then I'm like, what did I say? I had gone
20:53
Speaker 1: live the day before for like an hour, and you know,
20:57
Speaker 1: like I am actually she'll even tell you, I'm very
21:00
Speaker 1: pr trains, Like what did you say?
21:01
Speaker 2: Zach?
21:02
Speaker 1: Just Okay. There was one thing, and it somebody said, like,
21:05
Speaker 1: if you were on a deserted island and you had
21:08
Speaker 1: to have one person, Jack's or Janet, who would you
21:11
Speaker 1: want to pitch Janet?
21:13
Speaker 3: I mean you picked Jack.
21:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here here's the reason number one. When I
21:18
Speaker 1: read I read it and I laughed, Well, I go
21:21
Speaker 1: why because I want to have I would not want
21:23
Speaker 1: to have sex with them.
21:24
Speaker 2: No, not even you're a desserted island.
21:27
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. But here's the thing. My thing.
21:30
Speaker 1: The way my brain was is I laughed and I said,
21:32
Speaker 1: I've answered this in the past, and the answers Jacks
21:35
Speaker 1: and I went on, I didn't, you know, elaborate. I
21:38
Speaker 1: didn't go into anything. I just said like, yeah, I've
21:40
Speaker 1: said that in the past. That's it. I didn't ship
21:42
Speaker 1: talk about it. She goes, well, then I was like
21:46
Speaker 1: I sent her another text and I was like, hey,
21:48
Speaker 1: I've been racking my brain. I'm wondering where this is
21:51
Speaker 1: coming from. If it's from the live I saw where
21:53
Speaker 1: like a clip got posted and it had that moment
21:56
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, if that's what you're
21:57
Speaker 1: talking about, like, I don't think that's bad or shit
21:59
Speaker 1: talking but if there's another clip, please send it to me.
22:02
Speaker 1: So if an apology has warrant to it's.
22:04
Speaker 3: Kind of passive aggressive, what being like if there's something else,
22:09
Speaker 3: blah blah blah like but.
22:11
Speaker 1: Well no, I think it was like I think it
22:12
Speaker 1: was like properly like if they're properly aggressive, properly aggressive. Yeah,
22:17
Speaker 1: it's like listen, if.
22:18
Speaker 2: There's passive aggressive, right, it's matter of fact.
22:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, if it's about this, I don't think
22:24
Speaker 1: it's not bad. If there's something else, like I am
22:26
Speaker 1: I rolling? You am I rolling? Though, Oh my god,
22:29
Speaker 1: is there something else? You knew? I thought it was that,
22:31
Speaker 1: So I was like, is it this? Like, let's and
22:33
Speaker 1: I go, let's talk about this so that I'm sending
22:36
Speaker 1: you this message so that we can work this out
22:38
Speaker 1: so it doesn't blow up.
22:38
Speaker 3: Because on the show, it seems like you don't want
22:41
Speaker 3: to be friends with her and she wants to be
22:42
Speaker 3: friends with.
22:43
Speaker 1: You, right, And I think that And you know what's
22:45
Speaker 1: crazy is it's the problem with Janet is it's in
22:48
Speaker 1: all or nothing situation. It's very much you're okay, we're
22:52
Speaker 1: planning vacations together, and we're this that or the other.
22:55
Speaker 1: Or you're dead to me, where you're uninvited or whatever,
22:58
Speaker 1: and there's no space.
22:59
Speaker 2: To like in the weak grow.
23:01
Speaker 1: And it's really hard because that's not the way I
23:05
Speaker 1: see a genuine friendship, which I have people like that
23:07
Speaker 1: on my cast.
23:09
Speaker 2: It's like mob mentality. It's like either you ride and
23:12
Speaker 2: die from me and you hate the people that I hate,
23:15
Speaker 2: or nothing at all.
23:16
Speaker 1: Right, And when people say like I've blind loyalty to Kristin,
23:19
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can. This should be case in point
23:22
Speaker 1: that I don't because I am still talking to Janet
23:25
Speaker 1: and she is not, but you are.
23:27
Speaker 3: You kind of pretend that you don't talk to Janet,
23:30
Speaker 3: and you pretend that Janet's embarrassing when she makes jokes.
23:33
Speaker 3: And sometimes I think that when she's making jokes.
23:37
Speaker 1: Compliment you know what, I'm glad that I'm glad.
23:44
Speaker 3: Teddy like tumor Teddy, no post tumorous, post tumor Teddy.
23:49
Speaker 3: But I think it's like she's complimenting you by saying
23:51
Speaker 3: I want to be friends with you so bad, just
23:53
Speaker 3: like I want to say right now, I'm going to
23:55
Speaker 3: text Janet and say I don't want to go to
23:58
Speaker 3: your party unless that comes.
24:00
Speaker 2: That's passive aggressive.
24:01
Speaker 1: No, that's just AGSI.
24:06
Speaker 3: I love that me and my date and Katie Janella
24:09
Speaker 3: are gonna hang out. No I need Zach there to
24:11
Speaker 3: make me like, well.
24:13
Speaker 1: You need one person.
24:20
Speaker 2: Now you're the one, because I'm sure Katie.
24:23
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, like I totally get that. And
24:25
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about Janet is we were at
24:28
Speaker 1: one point, you know, good, very good friends, and we
24:31
Speaker 1: have great answer back and forth and we do, like
24:34
Speaker 1: I think, it's one thing when it's like I'm like okay,
24:36
Speaker 1: like that's me playing into it too, like you're like, oh,
24:39
Speaker 1: embarrassed or like don't want to I'm like, no, I'm
24:41
Speaker 1: still giving you a chance. And we're still working through stuff.
24:44
Speaker 1: But like I think, and I think from the audience standpoint,
24:48
Speaker 1: I do get it, because then it's like, Zach, just
24:51
Speaker 1: be cool with her, Like I am giving her a chance.
24:54
Speaker 1: I am. We have like one on ones that just
24:56
Speaker 1: you know, you don't get to see, but like that
24:58
Speaker 1: we're good and that we move forward from a lot
25:01
Speaker 1: of stuff, and you know, I think Janet and I
25:05
Speaker 1: understand each other a lot better. But then it's things
25:08
Speaker 1: like this that set us back because I'm like, wait,
25:11
Speaker 1: this deserted island question. You're now disinviting me from your birthday?
25:14
Speaker 2: When did you get this text?
25:15
Speaker 3: Can you tell me exactly what it says?
25:18
Speaker 2: Can you read the text?
25:19
Speaker 3: Let's just read the text.
25:20
Speaker 1: I said I wasn't gonna be messy. I said, I
25:22
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna bring this up. I said, I wasn't gonna
25:23
Speaker 1: make it bigger than it is. And here I am.
25:26
Speaker 3: It's it's you know what we can blame every So.
25:30
Speaker 1: She said, obviously, since you're still talking about me, I
25:34
Speaker 1: don't want you at my birthday party with my friends
25:36
Speaker 1: and family. I'm sure you understand. But wait a second.
25:38
Speaker 1: This kind of run me the wrong way because I
25:39
Speaker 1: was like, this is a two hundred person influencer birthday party.
25:44
Speaker 2: One hundred people.
25:45
Speaker 3: That's why I told you have to come.
25:47
Speaker 1: It's it's so I'm like for me too.
25:49
Speaker 3: About at eight o'clock at night, I know it's going
25:51
Speaker 3: to be good ship going.
25:52
Speaker 2: I can bring my dog and he can stay with
25:53
Speaker 2: your kids, and I can go and spend the night
25:55
Speaker 2: at your house.
25:56
Speaker 1: I no, well and love Rugby.
25:58
Speaker 3: I love Rugby, But where's he gonna sit?
26:01
Speaker 1: Like?
26:01
Speaker 3: He's like shitty Zach He doesn't get to sit on
26:03
Speaker 3: my furniture.
26:04
Speaker 2: No, he sits in the corner.
26:06
Speaker 1: Well, I get to sit on your furniture. Yes, you do.
26:09
Speaker 2: Even if you shit yourself, you can sit on my phone.
26:11
Speaker 3: Because we're getting paid.
26:14
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, wait, wait, First of all, she's getting
26:17
Speaker 2: paid for this.
26:18
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a paid thing, but I
26:19
Speaker 1: know it's being paid for, you know what I mean.
26:22
Speaker 1: She has a lot of good for her. And that's
26:24
Speaker 1: what I said. I'm like, I'm happy, and this is
26:27
Speaker 1: awesome and it's a great opportunity. But it's not like
26:29
Speaker 1: it's a small thing. And but that's where it's like,
26:32
Speaker 1: you're disinviting me because now I've wronged you in this way.
26:36
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my, this is where I'm like,
26:37
Speaker 1: I get exhausted. I just because this is not the
26:40
Speaker 1: type of person I am. I can you would just
26:43
Speaker 1: ignore it well normally, but I was like so then
26:47
Speaker 1: I said, so because we're gonna do full receipts. I
26:51
Speaker 1: was thrown so then I responded, I was thrown off
26:53
Speaker 1: when I read this, because honestly, I have no idea
26:56
Speaker 1: what you're reference referring to. I racked my brain about
26:59
Speaker 1: what clip or thing you could have seen where I
27:02
Speaker 1: was shit talking. I went live yesterday and saw where
27:05
Speaker 1: someone had recorded part of it, and there was one
27:06
Speaker 1: question about a deserted island, where I said, Jacks, is
27:09
Speaker 1: that what you're referring to? Because that's all I could
27:12
Speaker 1: think of, and to me, neither none of this was
27:16
Speaker 1: me talking shit on you whatsoever. I assume it's something else,
27:19
Speaker 1: and if it is, please send it to me so
27:21
Speaker 1: I can see what I said, and if an apology
27:23
Speaker 1: is warranted, I can give it. We have been good
27:25
Speaker 1: and moving forward. So to disinvite me from your party
27:28
Speaker 1: over questions asked on my live if that's what this
27:31
Speaker 1: is about and I don't find them bad, is crazy.
27:34
Speaker 1: I'm texting you so we can resolve this so it
27:36
Speaker 1: doesn't blow up and become bigger for no reason.
27:38
Speaker 3: That's good.
27:39
Speaker 1: I thought that was good.
27:40
Speaker 3: I have met myself in gay version, Like I said,
27:43
Speaker 3: that's we need to talk and spoil you really long well.
27:49
Speaker 1: I can never get my point across because I'm long
27:51
Speaker 1: winded and I have too many details and stuff, and
27:54
Speaker 1: then it bites me in the bullet point.
27:56
Speaker 2: You have to talk bullet point I'm trying. That was
28:01
Speaker 2: that was like Jesse's text. You know Jesse, Jesse text
28:06
Speaker 2: her after every to teas in a pod episode.
28:08
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, because he texted me after your
28:10
Speaker 1: last week's one and said, hey, I know you're going
28:13
Speaker 1: on their podcast next week. Just so you know. They
28:15
Speaker 1: talked ship on you this one. No, but he left
28:23
Speaker 1: and said, like what was said because they were like,
28:26
Speaker 1: he's just we love our Zachy, but and then like
28:30
Speaker 1: went into something No I know, but then you went
28:32
Speaker 1: into something where it was like.
28:36
Speaker 2: Because I said we can we can disagree on things
28:40
Speaker 2: that happen on reality TV, doesn't mean we hate you.
28:44
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't take any are you calling Jesse.
28:46
Speaker 2: Oh he's a bitch.
28:52
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna say Jesse Lowley from the Valley.
28:55
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that.
28:56
Speaker 2: This is Jesse Lacey's boyfriend from the Valley.
29:00
Speaker 3: He's showing a house right now. So you couldn't answer
29:02
Speaker 3: because the goal of this year is fifty million for Michelle.
29:05
Speaker 3: So what do you think the goal is for him?
29:08
Speaker 1: A sale? Marriage? Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's I
29:11
Speaker 1: don't think it's maybe his like biggest priority. I think
29:14
Speaker 1: he's I think he's now getting back into it. I
29:17
Speaker 1: think he kind of lost his zest for it and
29:21
Speaker 1: his drive. Yeah, and I think he's he is getting
29:24
Speaker 1: it back though, but I think it's just now starting
29:27
Speaker 1: because Jesse and I are very close. Jesse, Lacy and
29:29
Speaker 1: I are insanely close.
29:31
Speaker 3: Lacy, what were you guys drinking in the Halloween party?
29:42
Speaker 1: It was? It was basically like a jungle juice like
29:45
Speaker 1: it was. It was supposed to be like who made it?
29:47
Speaker 3: Brittany?
29:48
Speaker 1: I think bartenders made I don't know, but yeah, Brittany
29:51
Speaker 1: was probably the one that was like, here and make.
29:52
Speaker 2: This because a few people lost their mind. Yeah, I
29:55
Speaker 2: mean Jasmine, who I absolutely adore now.
29:58
Speaker 1: I think what you're what you don't see is that
30:01
Speaker 1: there was there was like a conversation that happened before
30:05
Speaker 1: that that that is why she was so hype, where
30:06
Speaker 1: she was like wait a second. Also that that Natalie,
30:10
Speaker 1: that Natalie girl. She bugs Oh god, I'm like get
30:14
Speaker 1: oh really? I was like she was no.
30:15
Speaker 3: Remember when she was on the dating thing when she
30:18
Speaker 3: wanted to go out on a date with shorts and
30:22
Speaker 3: she was like do you have another sig? And then
30:24
Speaker 3: the Tanning girl came in and it was like.
30:26
Speaker 2: It looks like she smells like Ptole.
30:31
Speaker 1: Does she I didn't get close enough to smell or
30:33
Speaker 1: thank god. But she also came to my housewarming party.
30:37
Speaker 2: Did you get a new Monster fridge?
30:39
Speaker 1: You'll find out on the reunion only.
30:41
Speaker 2: Because I have really close to somebody at Monster and
30:44
Speaker 2: I could probably get you one.
30:46
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you'll find out at the reunion, but
30:49
Speaker 1: thank you, I do. I love that people are so
30:52
Speaker 1: invested in that they were like, he needs this, he
30:54
Speaker 1: needs to get it binged.
30:56
Speaker 3: Well, I don't care about the Monster bridge. I care
30:58
Speaker 3: that we that they all had to eat. You guys
31:00
Speaker 3: had to sit in a circle.
31:02
Speaker 2: It was like, are you still the same house?
31:06
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm still in the same nice again. You'll find
31:09
Speaker 1: that out on the rear. I don't want to like you.
31:10
Speaker 1: Those are two specific questions that I know well that
31:14
Speaker 1: got talked about, like about my house warming, but you
31:16
Speaker 1: will find that out. But I will say at my house,
31:19
Speaker 1: I basically was just celebrating the fact that it was
31:22
Speaker 1: like a new start. So yes, of course it's a
31:25
Speaker 1: blank canvas. And people are like, were you mad that
31:27
Speaker 1: they said X y Z about your apartment? I'm like, no,
31:30
Speaker 1: it looked like a crackton. I like that. Yeah, yeah,
31:35
Speaker 1: Like I'm not.
31:37
Speaker 2: Give us something to make fun of.
31:40
Speaker 3: I mean we were loving it, like your Dominoes like that.
31:43
Speaker 3: I was like, not even my son. I'm like, he
31:45
Speaker 3: can't even order Joe's pizza. He's got to do domino
31:48
Speaker 3: I gonna lie.
31:49
Speaker 1: I've had I feel like, I'm I love pizza, person.
31:52
Speaker 1: I've had Dominoes after they had that reor ten years
31:55
Speaker 1: ago or whatever. My favorite pizza.
31:58
Speaker 2: I have a party this season and my granddaughter wanted
32:01
Speaker 2: Domino's pizza and I ordered it.
32:03
Speaker 3: And I was pissed.
32:04
Speaker 2: Every I know, everybody was like Dominoes, Domins and even
32:07
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want Dominoes.
32:08
Speaker 1: And I had.
32:08
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh that's good.
32:09
Speaker 1: I love Dominoes. I'm sorry. Like it's just Chili's again.
32:13
Speaker 1: It's Chili's.
32:15
Speaker 3: They have great spinach and artichoke.
32:17
Speaker 2: Sounds fattening to me.
32:19
Speaker 3: Everything's fatty. Chili is like, well, this isn't a skinny,
32:23
Speaker 3: this isn't like that's.
32:24
Speaker 1: Whatever Michelle ordered because she ordered from the.
32:26
Speaker 3: Skinny when they have a skinny.
32:30
Speaker 2: I'm a Michelle.
32:32
Speaker 3: It's so boring, I know, but she won't when I
32:35
Speaker 3: am I spend the night at her house.
32:36
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you something. I have stomach issues.
32:39
Speaker 2: I have obviously, I have so many stomach issues it's
32:45
Speaker 2: not even funny. So I have to be like kind
32:48
Speaker 2: of a bland diet. So anything is over spicy or fried,
32:52
Speaker 2: I just can't do. I'm jealous of the people that
32:54
Speaker 2: can do that. I would love to eat all that
32:56
Speaker 2: ship and just put myself a GLP ones, but it's
32:59
Speaker 2: just not an option.
33:01
Speaker 1: I was like, That's what I was like. I was.
33:05
Speaker 3: To get out of my current situation where I can
33:08
Speaker 3: take g LP once.
33:09
Speaker 1: Oh you can't take it right now, I cannot.
33:11
Speaker 3: Let you can't take it. I can't take any hormones,
33:13
Speaker 3: no glp ones.
33:14
Speaker 2: So my issue. My doctor actually works wants me to
33:17
Speaker 2: take it. So it was slows down my digestive system.
33:21
Speaker 1: Oh because I because then it'll be.
33:23
Speaker 2: Shipped like ten times a day.
33:26
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I should like once every few days. Maybe
33:30
Speaker 1: maybe maybe? Are you I just I.
33:40
Speaker 2: Mean clear your verse.
33:42
Speaker 3: But with Benji your top, let's just his height, he's
33:48
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way he could be a top
33:50
Speaker 3: like he he couldn't even.
33:51
Speaker 1: Climb up on this I've seen some powertops at five
33:54
Speaker 1: sex Like, there are people out there They're like, you
33:57
Speaker 1: think my height's going to stop me? Nah?
33:59
Speaker 2: No, litt Let's talk about Benji.
34:01
Speaker 3: Okay, we have to get serious.
34:02
Speaker 2: Okay serious. I love him, I know I do love him.
34:07
Speaker 2: Now there's talk about possibly getting married, having a baby,
34:12
Speaker 2: having a baby. Where are you at with that?
34:15
Speaker 1: You know? I think those are some I feel like
34:17
Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot of not backlash, but people are like,
34:21
Speaker 1: clearly you don't want this, this is never going to work,
34:24
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I think there's this weird thing
34:28
Speaker 1: that people are like you either have always wanted kids,
34:30
Speaker 1: or you want kids like desperately, or you don't want kids.
34:33
Speaker 2: I like my kids, but I really don't like other
34:35
Speaker 2: people's kids.
34:36
Speaker 3: You don't like mine.
34:37
Speaker 2: I like your kids because I know you and I
34:39
Speaker 2: love you and all that ish, but it's just, you know,
34:42
Speaker 2: I just I'm not like I'm like Heather de Broke.
34:45
Speaker 1: You don't want to teach children at a school like
34:47
Speaker 1: you don't want to go and I don't want to
34:49
Speaker 1: be a teacher. No, but you don't want to like, Okay,
34:52
Speaker 1: have you know the five kids over at five years
34:55
Speaker 1: old for a sleepover.
34:56
Speaker 3: Oh no, I do no, I do do that.
34:57
Speaker 2: I have a granddaughter who is ex exactly like me.
35:01
Speaker 2: She looks at you, and you if she doesn't like
35:03
Speaker 2: the way she looks you're she's like, no, I knows them.
35:08
Speaker 2: She's eleven. She's just like I'm like, I want to
35:13
Speaker 2: show the kids to sleep at the house.
35:15
Speaker 3: I want to watch a movie Togain I married.
35:17
Speaker 1: That's my mom. My mom was very much like.
35:19
Speaker 3: Well, like, I can't cook a fucking thing. I don't
35:22
Speaker 3: want to pretend that I'm like Betty homemade like door
35:24
Speaker 3: dash now.
35:25
Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is I think that people
35:27
Speaker 1: saw it and they were like, you clearly don't want kids,
35:29
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not Kids were never in my
35:32
Speaker 1: future because of the fact I've been in survival mode
35:36
Speaker 1: most of my life. The economy crash right when I
35:39
Speaker 1: graduated college. Building up then moving out here was a risk,
35:44
Speaker 1: and like working jobs that didn't pay me my value,
35:48
Speaker 1: Like I have my master's in business, and I was
35:49
Speaker 1: getting paid well below my rate to do things that
35:53
Speaker 1: were well above what my title was exactly, and and
35:57
Speaker 1: I got taken advantage of a lot. But that doesn't
36:00
Speaker 1: mean that I didn't want kids. I just never saw
36:02
Speaker 1: that path and I wasn't stable enough. And now I'm
36:06
Speaker 1: finally in a more stable area and my partner wants kids.
36:10
Speaker 1: Never had someone that wanted kids in my past.
36:12
Speaker 2: I love that for you.
36:13
Speaker 1: And so that's where like our conversations are now, Like, Okay,
36:17
Speaker 1: we were having like the really tough conversation and honestly,
36:20
Speaker 1: like we would have to get married kind of before
36:24
Speaker 1: any of this even starts, because that's really.
36:27
Speaker 3: The only way he's going to stay in the country.
36:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but work, he could be, you know, in
36:32
Speaker 1: and out because Canada has like in and out policy,
36:35
Speaker 1: so that's not an issue. It's the working here. And
36:37
Speaker 1: so if he wants to actually establish himself and whatever,
36:40
Speaker 1: we'd have to get married. So that is what we
36:42
Speaker 1: are currently.
36:42
Speaker 2: Just make sure he's really into you in it. Because
36:46
Speaker 2: my husband, Eddie, he married a girl. I don't even
36:49
Speaker 2: know if I told you this. He married a girl
36:51
Speaker 2: from Czech that he was dating and they had been
36:55
Speaker 2: dating for a year and she had to go back
36:57
Speaker 2: and the only way that she could stay is if
36:59
Speaker 2: they got married. They got married. They were married for
37:00
Speaker 2: nine months and she's like he's out.
37:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I Love you bring out his possible
37:07
Speaker 3: biggest insecurity.
37:10
Speaker 1: That what we do.
37:13
Speaker 2: I want to ask about insecurities? Can I ask you
37:17
Speaker 2: something you don't have to answer, but how I will?
37:20
Speaker 2: What was it like growing up? What is your relationship
37:23
Speaker 2: with your parents?
37:24
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I really hope that my parents
37:28
Speaker 1: will probably come in, you know, if we you know,
37:30
Speaker 1: when we get next season. I'm sure my parents will
37:33
Speaker 1: come in or whatever. But I have the like I'm
37:35
Speaker 1: an only child.
37:38
Speaker 3: Never would have guessed.
37:39
Speaker 1: I think people are always like really. Some people will
37:42
Speaker 1: go like I can see that, and then other people
37:44
Speaker 1: will be like really, like I I think I'm like
37:46
Speaker 1: a well, like a good version of a like a
37:49
Speaker 1: good of I'm verse and good example of only child.
37:56
Speaker 1: But my parents and I his relationship is great. I
37:59
Speaker 1: Love is a very unique city because it's super progressive.
38:03
Speaker 1: It's actually one of the most progressive cities in the South.
38:06
Speaker 1: So like you know, my college had gender neutral bathrooms before,
38:09
Speaker 1: like way before it was even a thing. Our mayor
38:12
Speaker 1: is always a democrat, like it's very and gives like
38:15
Speaker 1: speeches at the gay club. We have a huge gay population,
38:18
Speaker 1: so luckily in Louisville. Yeah, of course growing up there
38:22
Speaker 1: was teasing or whatever, but there was once I got older,
38:25
Speaker 1: there was never that. I didn't have that bad environment,
38:28
Speaker 1: and I got so lucky with my parents. They I
38:31
Speaker 1: couldn't have asked for better parents.
38:32
Speaker 3: Oh that makes me really happy.
38:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that and their relationship with Benji also is amazing.
38:39
Speaker 1: They love Benji.
38:41
Speaker 3: Your parents are still together.
38:42
Speaker 1: They so their fiftieth wedding anniversary. Fiftieth is next well
38:50
Speaker 1: it would be next August. So it's their forty ninth
38:52
Speaker 1: this year in August.
38:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful.
38:55
Speaker 1: Met at fifteen and sixteen on CEBE radio. They was like, yeah,
39:00
Speaker 1: you know, like the aim. Yeah. They met on CB
39:02
Speaker 1: radio fifteen sixteen, married at twenty and twenty one, and
39:05
Speaker 1: had me at thirty and thirty one.
39:06
Speaker 2: Ail.
39:07
Speaker 3: Oh, so they waited.
39:08
Speaker 1: They waited ten years. They had a thinker one year
39:11
Speaker 1: before me, and then I was one of triplets. They
39:13
Speaker 1: lost the two. They thought they lost all three of us,
39:17
Speaker 1: but then I I held.
39:18
Speaker 2: On and you came up proud.
39:20
Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna regret this. Here's my bill in advance.
39:27
Speaker 2: At what age did you come out to your parents?
39:29
Speaker 1: Eighteen?
39:30
Speaker 2: Did they know prior they hit.
39:33
Speaker 1: It's funny because, like, you know, you talked to them
39:35
Speaker 1: out You're like, what were you know, how did you
39:37
Speaker 1: see my childhood or whatever? There was like inklings of
39:40
Speaker 1: like they maybe thought here and there, but they were
39:42
Speaker 1: like you were always with like girls and always like
39:46
Speaker 1: you were always dating and whatever, and so we just
39:50
Speaker 1: didn't think that that was.
39:51
Speaker 3: Really at Are you a gold star gay?
39:53
Speaker 1: I'm a platinum gay.
39:55
Speaker 3: You're a plant?
39:56
Speaker 2: What is a platinum section?
39:58
Speaker 1: I've never been in or out of a.
39:59
Speaker 3: D Yeah, he was born from a C section. He's
40:02
Speaker 3: never been near a vagina.
40:04
Speaker 2: Do you want to see teddy I've been.
40:06
Speaker 1: Near some people's. No, I've seen it. I have seen enough.
40:11
Speaker 2: If you want to see it, yes, I don't want
40:15
Speaker 2: to see teddies vachina.
40:16
Speaker 1: I don't need you want to show.
40:19
Speaker 3: I didn't need to see that.
40:21
Speaker 2: Hner period right now, so you might not want to
40:23
Speaker 2: see it.
40:23
Speaker 1: No. See, But that's the thing. I think a period
40:26
Speaker 1: you should be proud of. I don't think you should
40:29
Speaker 1: period anymore. Well, you should be proud of that too. Well.
40:33
Speaker 2: I'm actually we have to now, I have to get.
40:36
Speaker 1: Into sad about your period or non period.
40:39
Speaker 3: Listen, I needed my period as long as I can
40:41
Speaker 3: because like I'm going to choose the rockiesause during cancer
40:46
Speaker 3: I went through.
40:47
Speaker 1: It was.
40:49
Speaker 2: No period for a long time because because I.
40:52
Speaker 3: Was on so many I was and yeah whatever.
40:55
Speaker 2: But now it's back.
40:56
Speaker 3: But thank you Jesus, think, thank you so much. We're
41:00
Speaker 3: coming as Zach's arriving.
41:02
Speaker 2: We're gonna like save our eggs in case I want
41:05
Speaker 2: to have a kid together like a lady, and can.
41:08
Speaker 1: I have your uterus? Then would you carry a baby?
41:10
Speaker 3: Care I wouldn't carry a baby, but I would give
41:12
Speaker 3: you one of my eggs.
41:14
Speaker 2: I'm that big of a narciss so I don't think
41:15
Speaker 2: you should do that.
41:19
Speaker 1: I am. That is a great thank you. I love that. Actually,
41:21
Speaker 1: that's I love that.
41:22
Speaker 3: Like honestly, I think we would make a good baby.
41:26
Speaker 3: So I'd be like, yeah, sure you can have one,
41:27
Speaker 3: and don't let them they can't go to these schools.
41:30
Speaker 3: I would name the four schools that my kids go to.
41:32
Speaker 1: And as long as your you were like your father
41:36
Speaker 1: can get them in. Yeah, you have to think of
41:38
Speaker 1: when it's a sperm you need to be thinking about
41:40
Speaker 1: in l A.
41:40
Speaker 2: I just think Grandpa is going to be John Mellencamp.
41:43
Speaker 1: I know that that's great.
41:51
Speaker 3: You've seem very Nia and Danny this season.
41:56
Speaker 2: Please explain that to us, please, How you realize that
41:59
Speaker 2: my husband was with them?
42:01
Speaker 1: No, I know, and I totally agree. I think what
42:05
Speaker 1: is being very and we talk about it a lot
42:07
Speaker 1: at the reunion. Obviously it's a it's a hot topic.
42:10
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
42:11
Speaker 1: I know it it Actually I feel like it is
42:13
Speaker 1: a good conversation and it gets it goes somewhere, and
42:17
Speaker 1: I think people will get more resolution from it. But
42:22
Speaker 1: just my and his and their you know, dynamic or whatever.
42:27
Speaker 1: The problem with what was going on is that what
42:31
Speaker 1: was stated in season two, the way it was packaged.
42:36
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that then was there an issue, Yes, did we
42:41
Speaker 1: need to talk about it? Yes? The problem was every
42:44
Speaker 1: time it would get brought up, it became this thing
42:47
Speaker 1: about that term instead of us being able to talk
42:50
Speaker 1: about the problem. And that's where we I myself, I'm
42:57
Speaker 1: not speaking on anybody else's path. I tried to separate
42:59
Speaker 1: the t and I tried to be like, listen, it's
43:01
Speaker 1: not that like, it's not I'm it's.
43:04
Speaker 3: Not the alcohol, it's how you act on the alcohol.
43:06
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, yeah, I'll.
43:09
Speaker 3: Do whatever, but like, don't be slowing around being a dick.
43:13
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing is like all those individual
43:16
Speaker 1: scenes of Danny and Nia, like nobody's privy to that,
43:19
Speaker 1: Like we don't see that until we watch filming. They
43:22
Speaker 1: both are telling me on the side, everything's fine, no
43:26
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, like where it's crazy. And then I'll
43:29
Speaker 1: give you one example, and this is a juicy one
43:31
Speaker 1: because during Mexico, when at the beginning of Danny's birthday
43:37
Speaker 1: where Michelle and Danny are talking, after that whole thing
43:42
Speaker 1: and that's where it all really stems from and blows up.
43:45
Speaker 1: That night, Danny and Nia come to me and say
43:48
Speaker 1: that that Michelle started it, that she instigated, that she
43:52
Speaker 1: went in blah blah blah. And so then, of course,
43:55
Speaker 1: again somebody's telling me something. I'm listening and acting accordingly,
43:59
Speaker 1: like of course, like he's drunk, like don't prod. And
44:02
Speaker 1: then I watch it back and I'm like, no, dude,
44:04
Speaker 1: I am totally on my Shelle's side. Michelle did nothing wrong. Also,
44:08
Speaker 1: Michelle was actually speaking very eloquently and didn't even bring
44:12
Speaker 1: up what you then went into it lifestyle.
44:18
Speaker 3: She brought up how she grew up like she didn't
44:20
Speaker 3: bring up she.
44:21
Speaker 1: Didn't bring up anything, and she if anything, if anything
44:24
Speaker 1: to me that seems supportive, did it to you? I
44:28
Speaker 1: felt like it was supportive.
44:29
Speaker 3: I felt like throughout the season, you and Kristen and
44:36
Speaker 3: your significant others always were Danny and Nia, and I.
44:41
Speaker 1: Think the and the the thing was it's two things
44:43
Speaker 1: can be true at once because I think also it's
44:45
Speaker 1: like there was issues with Janet, so it's like that
44:49
Speaker 1: which gets pulled into the whole Danny Nia thing. So
44:51
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes your your hatred or your issues with
44:56
Speaker 1: one person, you're kind of counter correcting too much on
45:00
Speaker 1: the other way. The problem is I really wasn't seeing
45:03
Speaker 1: a lot of this behavior when I watched it back.
45:05
Speaker 1: I was like, you lied to me so many times,
45:10
Speaker 1: and we talk about it at the reunion, But this
45:12
Speaker 1: is something that actually I didn't get to say at
45:14
Speaker 1: the reunion. So I'm glad that we're bringing this up
45:16
Speaker 1: now and I can say it. The lying to me
45:20
Speaker 1: is the biggest issue, and the fact that you know
45:24
Speaker 1: it's not just once, it's not just why. It was
45:26
Speaker 1: also within things that you're still saying today weren't lies
45:31
Speaker 1: or that you don't lie when you're drunk or you know.
45:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I mean, you can't deny it. So
45:36
Speaker 1: so for me it was also an eye opening experience
45:39
Speaker 1: because I was walking on eggshells with him because I
45:42
Speaker 1: didn't think that he was going to be able to
45:44
Speaker 1: hear me. And here's the thing. When it's your friend,
45:47
Speaker 1: even if they're doing something that's bad, you have history.
45:50
Speaker 1: You support them, but you you need to guide them
45:53
Speaker 1: at first walk and if they don't take it, then
45:56
Speaker 1: you get aggressed. This thank you. That's what I do.
45:59
Speaker 1: That's what I do. I support my friend and I'm
46:00
Speaker 1: gonna lead you.
46:02
Speaker 3: The first time I saw he was drunk, I was like,
46:05
Speaker 3: I will never hang out with that guy.
46:06
Speaker 2: But you're very judgmental.
46:08
Speaker 3: I'm very right. I have I can. I'm an impath.
46:11
Speaker 1: When there's the comparisons, when you are trying to compare
46:15
Speaker 1: Danny to drinking to me and Brittany and Jasmine, it is,
46:21
Speaker 1: it's worlds. It's different, world's different. I have never like,
46:24
Speaker 1: I've just never done this stuff you've done. Now? Have
46:26
Speaker 1: I gotten drunk and screaming or whatever? Sure? Because I
46:30
Speaker 1: felt because something was happening or whatever, or has there
46:33
Speaker 1: been a show.
46:34
Speaker 3: I think you're more dramatical.
46:36
Speaker 1: I'm not harming someone. I'm not in someone's space. I'm
46:38
Speaker 1: not you know.
46:39
Speaker 2: We love a good drunk sack. Let me ask you
46:41
Speaker 2: a question. What were your thoughts on Janet throwing a
46:47
Speaker 2: drink in Danny's face.
46:52
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Like when it happened. In the moment,
46:55
Speaker 1: I was like, are we really doing this? Are you
46:59
Speaker 1: really gonna throw a drink like I was.
47:01
Speaker 2: It's going to set her back with a with the fans.
47:05
Speaker 2: I do too, and that's why I was so mad.
47:08
Speaker 2: She walked away from Jess walking.
47:12
Speaker 3: And I didn't like that.
47:13
Speaker 2: Al is like, you shouldn't have done that. Not only
47:16
Speaker 2: did she throw the drink, she threw the cup and
47:19
Speaker 2: I kind of fell off my couch laughing because it
47:21
Speaker 2: was like the drink kind of missed him and then
47:24
Speaker 2: the cup hit him in the forehead. I'm sorry.
47:27
Speaker 1: He'll say Danny handled it well where he was like, okay.
47:30
Speaker 3: He was too drunk to stand up.
47:32
Speaker 2: He was like, you are so right on that. He
47:34
Speaker 2: could have gone.
47:35
Speaker 1: He could have you know, so I'll give you know,
47:38
Speaker 1: you gotta give credit in the small ounces where it's due,
47:40
Speaker 1: like okay, cool. After that, I think it's set her
47:44
Speaker 1: back though, and I feel I feel bad because I'm like, see,
47:47
Speaker 1: this is the thing where it's.
47:48
Speaker 2: Like you, Janet, he's sticking up for you, invite him
47:51
Speaker 2: back to your birthday party. I'm just saying that right now,
47:54
Speaker 2: you know.
47:54
Speaker 1: And then I'll say. She responded to that and said saying,
47:57
Speaker 1: you'd rather be stuck on a deserted eye with Jack's
48:00
Speaker 1: over me. Specifically, you despise Jack, So where does that
48:04
Speaker 1: place me? And I didn't respond to that yet.
48:06
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the season finale.
48:09
Speaker 3: I want to know at the season finale, when we
48:14
Speaker 3: see Jesse having to hold Danny up and he's so.
48:19
Speaker 2: Strumbling around, got his head on j just I feel like.
48:22
Speaker 3: All of you guys gave him a pass and you're
48:24
Speaker 3: just like, you know what, even Lala, who la la?
48:27
Speaker 3: I love you and I hope that I see you
48:28
Speaker 3: on Friday.
48:29
Speaker 1: But like.
48:31
Speaker 3: Also, she was like, he's so drunk it's not even
48:37
Speaker 3: worth talking to.
48:39
Speaker 1: I don't think that's giving someone a pass. I think
48:40
Speaker 1: it's given like you know, if if if someone is
48:43
Speaker 1: like that, then it's like, oh okay, just to do
48:46
Speaker 1: scoop you out in real life.
48:48
Speaker 2: But let me ask a television do you think that
48:50
Speaker 2: Danny has a drinking problem.
48:52
Speaker 1: I think he. I think he is not a great drunk.
48:55
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, because here's the thing he does,
48:58
Speaker 1: he doesn't. It's like again where I'm not going to
49:00
Speaker 1: name something that's happening. I just know that you you
49:04
Speaker 1: keep saying it's out of your character, it's out of whatever.
49:06
Speaker 1: Well then but you'll see at the reunion he talks
49:09
Speaker 1: about it, and and I think it's a great conversation.
49:13
Speaker 2: No, because I love that because I will always say
49:16
Speaker 2: I don't have a drinking problem, but I have a
49:17
Speaker 2: drunk problem. I can be an asshole when I'm drunk
49:21
Speaker 2: when I don't drink a lot fucking cheer.
49:25
Speaker 1: See that's the thing is, I don't like qualifiers. So
49:27
Speaker 1: you saying that and then talking about the way Danny
49:30
Speaker 1: acts at the same is I hate qualifying it because
49:33
Speaker 1: it's like, no, no, you being a dick sometimes or
49:36
Speaker 1: whatever is different than it just different to.
49:39
Speaker 2: See a dick off camera when he's not drinking.
49:41
Speaker 3: I think he has I don't think he car No,
49:44
Speaker 3: I think he carries about him. I mean I want
49:47
Speaker 3: to him.
49:48
Speaker 1: There's another thing that I do not like that we
49:50
Speaker 1: did not get enough is that I constantly kept saying, like, dude,
49:56
Speaker 1: I don't think you understand how you come off. I
49:59
Speaker 1: think it's this straight male toxic energy of like.
50:02
Speaker 3: This ego narcissism.
50:04
Speaker 1: Well, and it's ego. It's like a lot of the
50:06
Speaker 1: straight male it's sometimes they get this like and especially
50:10
Speaker 1: in the church too, it is. It's very problematic and
50:14
Speaker 1: I think I had tried to point it out again.
50:16
Speaker 1: It's one of those things you're not gonna hear me
50:18
Speaker 1: if I just go bitch you have an ego with x.
50:22
Speaker 2: Y Ze County.
50:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta. If you want the person to listen,
50:27
Speaker 1: you have to have a conversation and now come off.
50:28
Speaker 1: Because I care about Danny, I care about me. I
50:32
Speaker 1: love my friends. I want them to be better. That's
50:35
Speaker 1: why I call them out. I don't think there was
50:38
Speaker 1: enough talk about like that breaking that down. I do
50:41
Speaker 1: think over the season when he watched it back, I
50:44
Speaker 1: think he's maybe getting there, but we'll see.
50:46
Speaker 3: I don't know.
50:47
Speaker 2: The way that they ended the season finale kind of
50:51
Speaker 2: made it seem like Danny and Nia they don't want
50:54
Speaker 2: to come back. Yeah, these are not our friends.
50:58
Speaker 3: We don't want to hang out, we want to be
51:00
Speaker 3: around such terrible people.
51:01
Speaker 2: A little like, okay, come on, guys, Like do you
51:05
Speaker 2: think that Nea loves the cameras.
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Speaker 3: And you don't.
51:16
Speaker 1: She's more aware or she's more like because during the
51:19
Speaker 1: season you see it a lot, and season two she
51:21
Speaker 1: did it once, or or maybe season one she would
51:24
Speaker 1: be like, you're okay, you're gonna say this in front
51:26
Speaker 1: of a camera.
51:29
Speaker 2: You're not my friends, not my friends. And then then
51:32
Speaker 2: like Danny comes from the acting world, she does not.
51:36
Speaker 3: Does it give you the ick? When he talks an
51:39
Speaker 3: accent character?
51:40
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I mean I say, I say that straight
51:42
Speaker 1: to his face. I'm like, I'm gonna punch you, like
51:45
Speaker 1: I please stop. Also, there was a moment and when
51:48
Speaker 1: we're getting off literally it would be his nose, but sorry,
51:56
Speaker 1: but we were getting off the we were getting off
51:58
Speaker 1: the boat at his birthday and he goes, let's go,
52:01
Speaker 1: and there was just a did you hear what I said?
52:05
Speaker 1: Right after that, I said, if I never hear let's
52:08
Speaker 1: go again, I will be a happy person. I can't.
52:11
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. And like the yeah, there's
52:13
Speaker 1: like every in every friendship and every whatever. You're like, Okay,
52:16
Speaker 1: but I love this person, so I look past this.
52:18
Speaker 3: Or we're closest with the girl?
52:20
Speaker 2: And who gives you the ick?
52:23
Speaker 1: Define the ick? And then we'll like, let's let's get
52:26
Speaker 1: a little one time.
52:27
Speaker 3: Who are you closes?
52:28
Speaker 1: Okay? Who am I closest with?
52:29
Speaker 3: Kristin or Brittany.
52:32
Speaker 1: Kristen? If we're just talking like every listen, and here's why,
52:38
Speaker 1: let me tell you Brittany is in crisis mode a
52:41
Speaker 1: lot right now, and because of just things that have
52:44
Speaker 1: gone on with like Jack. I don't think you understand
52:46
Speaker 1: how terrible Jacks is. He does stuff that is just
52:50
Speaker 1: so deplorable at all moments and then like it's just
52:53
Speaker 1: one thing after another. Now is she? Is she much
52:55
Speaker 1: better and getting better every day and like working on Yes,
52:58
Speaker 1: But when someone is going through a crisis, it is
53:01
Speaker 1: hard to be there for anybody else. Because I'm being
53:04
Speaker 1: there for her and I'm being strong for her. I'm
53:06
Speaker 1: not going to burden her with.
53:07
Speaker 3: My issues or you need to come on Friday, well.
53:11
Speaker 1: No after Well, now that I've made this so public,
53:14
Speaker 1: I was going to call her so many on the
53:16
Speaker 1: way here. I was gonna I'm sure. I was going
53:18
Speaker 1: to tell her, Hey, I'm going on this podcast and
53:22
Speaker 1: I'm specifically not going to talk about this to prove
53:25
Speaker 1: to you how much I'm not going to make this
53:27
Speaker 1: a big deal.
53:29
Speaker 2: Can you just say how much you love her?
53:35
Speaker 1: Listen, there is a love for Janet.
53:38
Speaker 2: By the way, can we also say how important she
53:41
Speaker 2: is to the show.
53:43
Speaker 1: This is the one thing I will say. This is
53:45
Speaker 1: the one thing I will say. There is nobody, not
53:48
Speaker 1: one person that is bigger than the show they are
53:51
Speaker 1: on and on any franchise. And I've said this every time.
53:53
Speaker 1: You will never catch my ego being like I am
53:56
Speaker 1: the Valley. I'm like, without me, this would be nothing,
53:59
Speaker 1: without the without Hurt, it would still go on without me.
54:02
Speaker 2: There's certain people on the show. You're like, what are
54:04
Speaker 2: they on there?
54:05
Speaker 3: But I have a question for you because.
54:07
Speaker 2: This is the one shit Whenever Teddy says that this
54:11
Speaker 2: is the.
54:11
Speaker 3: One thing that like, I haven't figured out, does Luke
54:14
Speaker 3: have a dry sense of humor? He's just a fuck face.
54:18
Speaker 1: So here's the thing about I knew he was just.
54:20
Speaker 3: Gonna say it is a dry sense of humor, block face.
54:22
Speaker 3: He is a face.
54:23
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Luke when him and Kristen first
54:26
Speaker 1: got together, I was like, yes, do this boy in
54:30
Speaker 1: Colorado behind a tent and a wedding, Like great, get
54:34
Speaker 1: those cobwebs out. Because her the person she was leaving.
54:38
Speaker 1: I needed her to mentally get over him, and it
54:40
Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen. But I was like, but that
54:43
Speaker 1: should be it. This should be a good every once
54:46
Speaker 1: in a while, like you know, fleeing whatever. I did
54:49
Speaker 1: not want them to date. I specifically was like, this
54:51
Speaker 1: man is not meant for you, Like this is not right,
54:54
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
54:55
Speaker 2: Do you think it's gonna last yet?
54:57
Speaker 1: Now? But when I first met, because he was we
55:00
Speaker 1: did a podcast one time and he got so offended
55:02
Speaker 1: everything single thing I said, see being offended?
55:05
Speaker 3: Or is he joking about being offended? No?
55:08
Speaker 1: At first he was like genuinely. I think he was like,
55:10
Speaker 1: how dare you think that about me? And then he
55:12
Speaker 1: started to learn and so on the show, Oh he's
55:17
Speaker 1: not very by way.
55:19
Speaker 2: I would have been offended at therapy this week on
55:21
Speaker 2: the show.
55:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, I was about to text that
55:24
Speaker 3: woman and say will you be my therapist?
55:26
Speaker 2: Oh you're a yes ma'am, Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, ma'am.
55:32
Speaker 2: That therapist was like a yes Kristin, Yes, Kristen.
55:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know if that was
55:37
Speaker 1: the most productive therapy. But here's the thing I will
55:41
Speaker 1: say that they they have and I've said this from
55:45
Speaker 1: the beginning to both of them. You both have insanely
55:47
Speaker 1: different communication styles. And because Luke has never he's a
55:52
Speaker 1: straight white male, so you have that straight white male
55:54
Speaker 1: syndrome where you don't hear know a lot, you do
55:57
Speaker 1: have these pre like these you know, builds up things
56:00
Speaker 1: about ego and whatever, and not that he has any price.
56:03
Speaker 1: He's not toxic, but he has to break those down
56:06
Speaker 1: like in a marriage, in a relationship, and especially with
56:08
Speaker 1: christ and Dody. Same with me. If you're gonna date me,
56:11
Speaker 1: Kristen or Jasmine, we are, you need to know how
56:15
Speaker 1: we communicate, you know what I mean? And if you
56:17
Speaker 1: don't know that, that's gonna be a problem.
56:19
Speaker 3: Like I knew Kristen and Stassi, so like I can't
56:22
Speaker 3: get around to this new Christian Kristen. I have to
56:25
Speaker 3: like force myself to be like she's taking this right now,
56:30
Speaker 3: but she but.
56:30
Speaker 1: She's she has matruated him where she's she knows where
56:33
Speaker 1: he's coming from.
56:34
Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in for another episode of the twat
56:36
Speaker 3: Seat with myself and Tama Judge. We appreciate you, guys,
56:39
Speaker 3: and keep listening because it's gonna get juicier.