Latest / Movie Meltdown / 115: Silk Stalkings in Space

Transcript

115: Silk Stalkings in Space · Movie Meltdown

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Falling Program is a proud member of the Palava family
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: of podcasts. Check out all the shows over at palava.com.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: That's P-A-L-A-V-A dot com.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Picture Association of America.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised.
• 0:20
  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
• 0:50
  Speaker 4: Provide more cooling in the containment chamber.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: To your citizens, we're moving up. Infrared alert. Infrared alert.
• 1:00
  Speaker 4: Infrared alert.
• 1:02
  Speaker 5: Infrared alert.
• 1:04
  Speaker 6: What's up?
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Meltdown.
• 1:06
  Speaker 6: I am Brian.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: I'm Greg.
• 1:08
  Speaker 6: And once again, we're doing a little broken up version
• 1:11
  Speaker 6: of the family this week. People have lots of things
• 1:15
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of lives. Pinning any of them down is impossible.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: and Misty just can't stand to see us for two
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: weeks in a row. So, you know, we're going to
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: see her next week.
• 1:23
  Speaker 6: We don't want to ruin things this week.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: So she said, what'd she say? I don't want to
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: hang out with those losers again. Is that what it was?
• 1:31
  Speaker 6: I think that's every week.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:34
  Speaker 6: So yeah, we, we thought we would throw a, a
• 1:37
  Speaker 6: movie viewing party up for ourselves here. So we'll kick
• 1:41
  Speaker 6: things off with the geek week. Um, I myself, and
• 1:46
  Speaker 6: this is sort of, uh, I guess been going on
• 1:48
  Speaker 6: for at least a couple of months, maybe when I
• 1:51
  Speaker 6: saw the very first one, but I kind of got
• 1:54
  Speaker 6: into it a little more in the last few weeks.
• 1:56
  Speaker 6: I've been watching Shameless. Oh. I don't know how familiar
• 2:00
  Speaker 6: you are with it.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Not watched it, but I know of it.
• 2:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they kind of run the promos on stuff online,
• 2:08
  Speaker 6: and I think maybe it's even crossed over on legitimate channels.
• 2:11
  Speaker 6: Not too many promos, because most of them they can't
• 2:14
  Speaker 6: show on regular. It is on Showtime, so... Yeah, I
• 2:18
  Speaker 6: kind of was interested going in just because it's a
• 2:21
  Speaker 6: TV show, but it bothered to get William H. Macy,
• 2:23
  Speaker 6: which seems very removed from normal television. And even that
• 2:28
  Speaker 6: first promo I saw for it, I was like, this
• 2:31
  Speaker 6: is not... I mean, this is a very unusual family
• 2:37
  Speaker 6: as far as sitcom families, which this is far from
• 2:40
  Speaker 6: a sitcom.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: It's not at all.
• 2:42
  Speaker 6: But, I mean, you don't used to regular network channel
• 2:45
  Speaker 6: family shows anymore. Even for the more racy ones, this
• 2:48
  Speaker 6: one goes.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: Far beyond that. So, yeah, I ended up seeing the
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: very first one, I think, before it even premiered.
• 2:56
  Speaker 6: They did, like, a sneak preview after something and was
• 2:58
  Speaker 6: really impressed with it and then kind of just lost
• 3:01
  Speaker 6: when it was on into the last few weeks and
• 3:03
  Speaker 6: then have been trying to catch up because they're rerunning
• 3:06
  Speaker 6: some of them. And they're coming to the end of
• 3:07
  Speaker 6: the season, and it's just a great show. Like, it
• 3:10
  Speaker 6: really is just amazing how well written it is. All
• 3:14
  Speaker 6: the performances and a good portion of them are kids,
• 3:17
  Speaker 6: which usually that's trouble.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's six.
• 3:21
  Speaker 6: Kids in this family or something like it. At least
• 3:23
  Speaker 6: I still can't. I'm trying to figure out what at
• 3:25
  Speaker 6: least one of the other ones. But I think there's,
• 3:26
  Speaker 6: you know, five or six younger. Like there's a good
• 3:29
  Speaker 6: five or so that are probably under 18. So it's yeah,
• 3:33
  Speaker 6: it's a ton of little kids acting. And yet that's
• 3:36
  Speaker 6: where most of the foul language comes from. And in some, well,
• 3:40
  Speaker 6: in a lot of cases, the sex as well. So
• 3:43
  Speaker 6: it's a racy show.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:46
  Speaker 6: It's a, yeah, it's, it's, there's a lot of, um,
• 3:48
  Speaker 6: weird stuff going on and most of them are underage.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: So it's, it's, Why do you like Knott's?
• 3:55
  Speaker 6: Because it's ten times better written than anything else on television.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: And it's realistic. That's what I was going to say.
• 4:02
  Speaker 6: It's a very unusual family for television. Truth is, probably
• 4:07
  Speaker 6: a good portion of the families out in the world
• 4:09
  Speaker 6: are really close to this. Granted, this isn't like your
• 4:13
  Speaker 6: squeaky clean two and a half kids in a dog
• 4:17
  Speaker 6: in the yard kind of family.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: This is your welfare family.
• 4:20
  Speaker 6: This is the Family with six kids, living in one house,
• 4:24
  Speaker 6: fighting constantly, dad's getting hauled away by the police, like
• 4:28
  Speaker 6: Cops that was on earlier when you came in.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: Or a realistic version of My Name is Earl. Yeah,
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty close to that.
• 4:36
  Speaker 6: If that was done a little more straight, I mean, granted,
• 4:39
  Speaker 6: it's certainly got its moments of humor. It realizes how
• 4:42
  Speaker 6: ridiculous some of these situations are and definitely gets a
• 4:45
  Speaker 6: laugh out of it when it's needed. But it's still,
• 4:48
  Speaker 6: for the most part, a drama and... kind of like
• 4:51
  Speaker 6: sad at times how like realistic it is and just
• 4:55
  Speaker 6: what's going on in these families and what these kids
• 4:57
  Speaker 6: have to deal with. So, I mean, it's, it's really
• 5:00
  Speaker 6: impressive on that level. And in my usual way of
• 5:04
  Speaker 6: liking things, there's always that extra little incentive. I've also
• 5:08
  Speaker 6: developed a vicious crush on Emmy Rossum is the female lead.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: Would I know her from anything?
• 5:15
  Speaker 6: Well, I found that out because that's about the only, well,
• 5:18
  Speaker 6: one of the other things I've watched in the last
• 5:19
  Speaker 6: few weeks.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: I went in and she's the oldest of the kids, basically.
• 5:24
  Speaker 6: She's the older one that's taking care of all the
• 5:26
  Speaker 6: little kids.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: Basically, because dad is William H.
• 5:28
  Speaker 6: Macy and a fucking drunk and is the worst father ever. So, yeah,
• 5:34
  Speaker 6: she's basically taking care of this entire family. So, yeah,
• 5:38
  Speaker 6: then I'm sitting here that first episode. I'm just like, man,
• 5:41
  Speaker 6: she is really good. Like just acting wise in general,
• 5:44
  Speaker 6: she's really good. And we're trying to figure out what
• 5:46
  Speaker 6: she's from. And she's been in a couple other things.
• 5:48
  Speaker 6: She's been in decent stuff on TV. But then I
• 5:51
  Speaker 6: went back and looked at her filmography. And she's the
• 5:55
  Speaker 6: lead in the more recent version of Phantom of the
• 5:58
  Speaker 6: Opera that they made.
• 5:59
  Speaker 7: Oh, really?
• 6:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 6:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 6:01
  Speaker 6: And then I was like, damn it, I was always
• 6:03
  Speaker 6: kind of on the fence with that one anyway because
• 6:04
  Speaker 6: I like the story. I even like the music involved
• 6:08
  Speaker 6: in that version as much as I don't like musicals.
• 6:10
  Speaker 6: That's one of the few that I think they did
• 6:12
  Speaker 6: something interesting with. And so I was like, all right,
• 6:16
  Speaker 6: that kind of pushes it over the edge. I'm going
• 6:17
  Speaker 6: to have to watch it. So I did end up
• 6:19
  Speaker 6: watching that. I won't go too far into that because
• 6:22
  Speaker 6: I would be up for watching that for an episode.
• 6:25
  Speaker 6: I don't know that anybody else would be on board,
• 6:27
  Speaker 6: but I ended up having a very different reaction than
• 6:30
  Speaker 6: I expected. I went in with a lot of weird
• 6:32
  Speaker 6: preconceived notions.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: It kind of shattered all of them.
• 6:36
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm not even like.
• 6:39
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I still don't know 100% what I
• 6:42
  Speaker 6: think of it. So I think it would be interesting
• 6:44
  Speaker 6: to discuss. So I might leave that one alone. But
• 6:46
  Speaker 6: that's probably the most high-profile thing is she is the,
• 6:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, she's Christine.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: She's the female lead in that entire movie. So that
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: was several years ago, too. So for her to be
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: thrown a project that huge when she was still pretty young,
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: that's impressive, too. Good for her.
• 7:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. She's impressive as an actress. And there's something
• 7:07
  Speaker 6: just ridiculously hot about her. But no, I have to
• 7:11
  Speaker 6: say that because it's, it's, it's not like, because that's
• 7:13
  Speaker 6: the thing. They do little promos and she's all fixed
• 7:16
  Speaker 6: up or I'll see her at award shows and then stuff.
• 7:18
  Speaker 6: And like, she looks hot, like normal girls do on
• 7:21
  Speaker 6: the show. She's like, so like normal girl. Like she
• 7:26
  Speaker 6: is so stripped down, no makeup. Usually we're in a
• 7:29
  Speaker 6: wife beater.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the most unglamorous version of a
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: girl ever. And somehow she's hotter like that.
• 7:36
  Speaker 6: Like there's something, I don't understand it, but god damn
• 7:40
  Speaker 6: she's hot on that show.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: What's that say about you? It does. Like the more
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: I looked at it.
• 7:45
  Speaker 6: Well, actually it doesn't surprise me because if I look
• 7:49
  Speaker 6: back at all the girls I've liked, starting from, you know,
• 7:52
  Speaker 6: As a very young child, they weren't really girly girls.
• 7:56
  Speaker 6: It was, you know, my early ones were tomboy kind
• 7:58
  Speaker 6: of girls on TV.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: You know, the one that was always out playing baseball.
• 8:02
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, she's cool. I like that girl. And
• 8:05
  Speaker 6: then as time's gone on, they've just been like very
• 8:07
  Speaker 6: unconventional girls. You know, they've always been girl next door
• 8:10
  Speaker 6: kind of girls. You know, they've never been the big
• 8:13
  Speaker 6: glamorous girly girl. It's always been very normal girls. So
• 8:17
  Speaker 6: it doesn't really surprise me.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: I always, I think.
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: I know what you're getting at, because they're always the
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: ones where there's something wrong with them.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: Well, this one, she definitely fits the bill.
• 8:30
  Speaker 6: Not personally, no offense to Emmy, but as a character,
• 8:34
  Speaker 6: oh my God, there's 400 things wrong with her every
• 8:36
  Speaker 6: day of the week.
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: Not necessarily the actress, but the person, I can't talk tonight,
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: the character they're playing.
• 8:41
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: If there's something wrong with them, you know, a flaw,
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: they're more attractive. It's like that Juliette Lewis thing where sometimes,
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: you know, she's... Not when she's completely fucked up.
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: And not when she's... But when she's just a kind of...
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: When she's just a little quirky. She's just too quirky
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: most of the time.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: But there's times where she plays roles where she's just
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: off of normal.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: That's when she's her most attractive.
• 9:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, this one, I mean, yeah, she works across
• 9:17
  Speaker 6: the board. I mean, it's fine if you fix her
• 9:19
  Speaker 6: up because I've seen plenty of pictures of her where I'm.
• 9:21
  Speaker 10: Like, damn, she's gorgeous.
• 9:24
  Speaker 6: But it's funny how much it works when she's just
• 9:27
  Speaker 6: completely stripped down, total unglamorous. It works a little better.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: You know, Mellencamp's ex-wife, the model, I forget it. erwin
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: is that her name that's what i was trying to
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: think i think it is i worked at.
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: A bookstore once and of course she's an extremely beautiful
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: woman this was in bloomington indiana and one morning sleeping
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: morning she um this was a bookstore that had a
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: lot of magazines and art magazines and jewelry.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: And just arts and crafts kind of stuff weird stuff magazine. Specifically.
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: It was the largest distributor of magazines in Indiana. But anyway,
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: she came in. I had no idea it was her.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: Hair in a ponytail, no makeup on, sweatpants and a
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: t-shirt on.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: And I didn't know it was her. And I was like,
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: this is a beautiful woman. This is a.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: And then I found out who it was. And she
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: was actually more beautiful dressed down than she was dressed up.
• 10:25
  Speaker 6: And then.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, come to find out, yeah, of course,
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: she's a knockout. And then on top of that, she
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: was one of the nicest customers we'd ever had.
• 10:33
  Speaker 6: That's because it was a college town full of douchebags.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Right. You're right. It is full of douchebags.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying this as, you know, yay for
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: her or sort of anything like that, but I was...
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: Very impressed with how down to earth, and that she
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: was willing to go out herself in sweatpants and a t-shirt.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure married to him and her having her own people, probably.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, she could have very easily sent someone. I
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: also worked there a few years later. I worked at
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: a restaurant that they would come and we would put
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: them kind of in a corner. It was in a
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: little lounge area and they would eat. She would eat
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: and he would just sit and smoke. And she would
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: be done up nice, but... Nothing like when she was
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: in her sweatpants.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, there's something to that.
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying I like sweatpants, but, you know,
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: dressed down.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Dressed down, yeah.
• 11:23
  Speaker 6: I think it's one of those, and maybe it's just
• 11:25
  Speaker 6: the type of guy that you have to be to
• 11:28
  Speaker 6: appreciate that. Or maybe I think there's also something to...
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: If you look good at that level, you're always going
• 11:34
  Speaker 6: to look good. Where there's women who can fix themselves up,
• 11:37
  Speaker 6: and they do clean up nice, but really in the
• 11:40
  Speaker 6: real world.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: You're just like, I have no interest in that.
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: Whereas if you see somebody completely stripped down like that,
• 11:46
  Speaker 6: and you're still just completely in love with them, then
• 11:50
  Speaker 6: that's it. It's like don't waste your time anywhere else.
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: That's where you need to be.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: Now that we're talking about beauty instead of movies, but
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: Hey, this is entertainment related.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: There you go. Unless, of course, you can get me
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: to actually come over here. I'll give her a call.
• 12:07
  Speaker 6: And I think your Irwin girl, they're not together anymore.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: So if you can get a hold of her. I
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: can't imagine. Was it Meg Ryan that he's with now?
• 12:15
  Speaker 10: Is it? Oh, God.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: I think he's with Meg Ryan. That's a major step down.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Especially on this show. She will get no love.
• 12:24
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I like her probably a little more than anybody, and
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: that's not saying much. She was cute as hell in
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: Top Gun.
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: That's going back a ways. That's going back a ways.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: She was drunk most of that movie, I think. Or
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: at least she acted like it. She wasn't in it
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: very often. Yeah, that too.
• 12:41
  Speaker 6: Very small, not a screen time. So yeah, I've watched
• 12:46
  Speaker 6: quite a few episodes of Shameless in the last few weeks.
• 12:49
  Speaker 6: So if you haven't seen it, if you have access
• 12:51
  Speaker 6: to that channel, or at some point, I'm assuming they'll
• 12:55
  Speaker 6: put them all on Netflix or something, it's definitely worth watching.
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: It's pretty impressively put together. What have you done?
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: What have I done?
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: You can put a big I watch Netflix across my brain,
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: across my forehead.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: I came to Netflix... Fairly recently, I suppose, because I
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen it and I keep my eyes out for stuff,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: but The Thing was on Netflix.
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: Like the remake?
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: This is the.
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: John Carpenter?
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: John Carpenter, 1981, The Thing, yeah.
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: That's all I need to hear, because, yeah, I.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: If you want to go ahead, but I'm just, I
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: don't pick favorite movies.
• 13:34
  Speaker 6: But that could very easily be in the top 10
• 13:36
  Speaker 6: of most awesome fucking movies ever.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I show you, and it's been a while since
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: I've seen it, probably over 10 years, and I loved it.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: It's one of the best suspense movies, you know, of
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: all time.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: And you have to lump it in with the, to me,
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: the stranded in space sci-fi movies, because that's really what
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: they are.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: They're... There's some place that nobody's going to help them.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: The elements, they have no way out. They're stuck.
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: It's just one of those isolation situations, like that type
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: of screenplay, which, I mean, really, you can set those anywhere.
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: Anywhere.
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: Space definitely is the easiest because you can very easily
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: be cut off from everyone.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, it's... And as I was turning it on,
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: my wife's never seen it. She's not that kind of
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: a movie-goer. And she'll watch television. She'll be working on
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: a computer and look up while I'm... little Greg's watching
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: her films on Netflix. And, um, and I said, you know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: this one's, she said, well, why do you like this necessarily?
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: And this is as it was coming on. I said, well,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: first of all, the cast is fantastic in this movie. Um,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: and the setting, I just really enjoyed the setting. Um, And,
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: you know, the special effects were great.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: When I was a kid.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: They're still good. Like, that's the thing. I mean, I
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: can go back and look at a lot of stuff
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: in the 80s and look at how bad the special
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: effects are.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: And I adjust for time.
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: I realize I don't even get very harsh as far
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: as being a critic of that because I know things
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: were very different then.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: And truthfully, I kind of like those practical effects better
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: most of the time.
• 15:18
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: But that one still stands out. Like, it's rare that
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: there's anything in that that's not like, wow, that still
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: looks fucking amazing.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: How many years later?
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I even said to her, I said, well,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: this is, she said, well, this is going to be
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: pretty gory. You know, we have to edit just in
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: case the children walk out and get a drink of
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: water or.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Something late at night.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: And she said, she said, is this one, is this
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: one real gory or a lot of nasty deaths? And
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: I said, you know, it's, and I don't know why
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I even said it. I said, it's a lot more
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: cerebral and less, and less gore. And then as I
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: get into it, I was like, oh my God. This
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: really is horrific.
• 15:54
  Speaker 10: It's hit and miss.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: It's like it's key scenes.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: It's like the kids could walk out for a good
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: 40 minute stretch and be fine. But you hit those like.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: Two scenes along the way, it's like, yeah, you're screwed.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Or the, you know, what is it, the Norwegians? Is
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: that who they are? Yeah, the Norwegians. You know, the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: doctor that they come across.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: If the kids walk out at that point, holy God,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: that's traumatic to see.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: This is probably about the time I watched it. So
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: this explains everything. Yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I watched it very young and loved it then, too. Oh, no,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: it's a fantastic movie. And again, to me, the pace
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: of the whole thing is just fantastic. I just had
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: a ball of a time. I wanted to start it
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: over right when I was done.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it is one of the few that
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: just is still amazing. Like, it holds up. It's funny,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: the only thing that really dates it is that computer thing.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: watching him on that watching him play chess on that
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: is so laughable now it's like that and the giant
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: headphones the dude's wearing yeah yeah it's like other than
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: the little technological things like it is still just fucking
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: flawless as a movie it really.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Is right right yeah yeah Yeah, it's a good movie.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what else to say about it
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: other than if you haven't seen it, you have to
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: see it. If you haven't seen it, I feel bad
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: If you have seen it, go watch it again because
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: it's that damn good.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And again, there's that whole thing of the people that,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you haven't seen that. Well, to me,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: that's not... How dare you not have seen that? You've
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: got to go watch it now. I'm so excited for you.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen this yet. I kind of get that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It's a little of both. It's like, oh my god,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: how have you not?
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: But then usually I try to keep myself from being
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: that super movie geek elite. Oh my god, how have
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: you not seen that? Because then I think about all
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: the stuff that I haven't seen. I've seen a lot
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: of stuff, but you're never done. There's still so much stuff,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: especially old Hollywood, that I feel bad about. As much
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: as I love old Hollywood stuff, there's still... tons of
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: stuff that i just haven't touched it's just i've scratched
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: the surface on the more popular things that i've seen
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: but there's just tons of stuff that right yeah so
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: i i try not to be that way for that
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: very reason because i'm just like i know there's plenty
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: of stuff i should have already seen and haven't there's
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: more movies.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen than i definitely.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: And you'll never be done that's that's kind of why
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: i like the movie geek thing you're never done you
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: can watch movies every day of your life you're never
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: going to get through them all there's just too many
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: They're constantly cranking out new ones.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: There's too many old ones you'll never track down.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: You're never done.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, I try not to get that way for
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: that reason.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: But go watch the thing or re-watch it, especially if
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you haven't. I mean, I feel like Netflix should sponsor us.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I talk with them so much.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, I was so tickled to run across that
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: on my queue.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So what was her final take? Did she watch it
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: sort of.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: In its entirety?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty late when I started it, and
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: she's not one for gore. She'll take violence, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Reservoir Dogs, that's not going to bother her.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: That's always a fine line for me. And again, maybe
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: because I watch too much of it, I don't even
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: think I... I hardly even notice violence anymore. I'm so
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: numb to it because I watch nothing but horror movies.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: That's the funny thing is on my suggestions list is
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the only thing that will come up is kids' movies, documentaries,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and gritty, violent dramas or gritty, violent horror.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Everything is gritty and violent.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: I get those too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, am I that bad? You know, am
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I that, they're everything. I'm like, I like comedies too,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: but everything has to have some violence.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: Gritty violence to it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: And I never, you know, I guess that's what I like.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: I don't suppose i don't argue with netflix i don't
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: try to but that's what comes up i suppose.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It knows you better than you know yourself i guess
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: so is that it for you yeah i did i
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: did i've never gotten to watch other than a few
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: random episodes um arrested development yeah And so I've watched
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a few of those this past week, and I've been
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: having a good time with that. It's another one of
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: those that was almost too good for normal television.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: And that's probably why it was almost getting canceled for
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: like three years straight.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it made it three years.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: I think, if I'm not mistaken, it got three seasons out,
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: but it barely, like from season one. barely eeked its
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: way out to the next season two more times.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: David Cross is hilarious.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: He always makes me laugh no matter what he does.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And, you know, Jason Bateman is such a putz, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: he's good. He's so likable. And they cast him in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that perfect role.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: It's like this guy has to be likable or you're
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: going to completely write him off. You're like, why are
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: you dealing with these crazy people? Just move away.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Take your kid and get the hell away from him.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: But you have to like him.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole show kind of hangs on that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Not to go too long into Geekly, but that was
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a fun one to delve deeper into.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worth watching.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: And I was hit and miss.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It's like, again, and maybe that's why it didn't last
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: as long.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I don't think I started, and I think after it
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: got all the attention, I tried to watch it because
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I liked the whole cast. I mean, Portia de.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Rossi is awesome on that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Another reason I wish she would turn up in more
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: stuff because she's so good in that. So, I mean,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: there's all these other people in the cast that are amazing,
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: and it's like it took even me a while to
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: get to it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, TV shows just don't have.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: A shot anymore. Unless you make huge numbers.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: That first week, you know, you're lucky to make it
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to the end of a season, so... Meanwhile, they're begging
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to put more two-and-a-half men out. Oh, God.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: They really are.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: It's so sad.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: It's so... I can't... I couldn't watch John Cryer for
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: five minutes.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I barely liked him. I.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: There are a few movies I can even tolerate him
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: in from like the 80s when he was quote unquote likable. Right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: He, I mean, has anybody liked him since then?
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: People still watch that show. I mean, it's the number
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: one ranked show in this country, which makes me sad.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: So I just wonder who the hell these people are
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: and what they see. In him, in Charlie Sheen, in
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: that show.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: In that kid. The kid's part of the show.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: The whole thing is just an atrocity.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it is continued on.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: People love it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: People are begging it for it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: I don't get it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: So we'll escape from that. Now, we were just originally
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: going to roll into today's movie. But as I... When.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I suggested watching this today, he was like, oh, yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: I need to watch that little Red Riding Hood thing
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: you guys were talking about. I was like, well, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: can set you up with that.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: So.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: It has now gotten so much attention around the Meltdown
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: compound here. The rest of the kids are going to
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: have to see it one by one.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: The 42-meter movie Meltdown compound.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: With gun towers and sniper rifles.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Protected against all the people we pissed off.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Attack dogs, you know. So, yeah, I was like, so
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking eventually everybody's going to have to watch it.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: But today, you know, we've got you here. So I
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: think we're going to do a little, a miniature break here.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: and come back with your reaction to this, the, the
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Christina Ricci short film, little red riding hood. It's a
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: little bonus for this episode. We're going to get what
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: Greg thinks about it and then roll.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Into the full movie.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So we will be back shortly with his, um, thoughts
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: on that one.
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You come around here.
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: Shall we make your demands? With your own two hands, well,
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: tell me now, what are you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Trying to do?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: We are about to witness the takeoff of the first
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: manned rocket to outer space.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: We pick up the count. Seven, six, five, four, three, two.
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: One, zero.
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: We're off to visit the planet that has reached the
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: Lord of the Stars.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Venus is loaded with candy.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: Woo!
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: And I've seen the promise on Mars, to show the
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: fun fears among Saturn, when you're thirsty and sure it's
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: a spot. And Jupiter's really jumping, so pop on this
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: waterman's box, but the.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Best of them all are the planets, where all of
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: these dreams.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Are at hand.
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: And that is the spot we all head for, our
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: theater refreshment plan.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Hello, this is Peter Mayhew, listening to Movie Mountain.
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: Down.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Once there was a girl who went to take some
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: bread and milk to her granny.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: That was it?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: That was it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: All right, we're back for our little bonus sofa theater
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: feature here, right? You know, sometimes they run a short
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: film before the main feature, and that's what we have
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: just done. Again, we are talking about the Little Red
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Riding Hood short film, directed by, I believe, David Kaplan
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: is who I'm going to blame for this, and yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: stars Christina Ricci. I'm trying not to go into it
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: because I gave you a full.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Rundown of my thoughts last week. So, yeah, Greg, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: have not seen it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: What was your take on this?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It was a joke that Mr.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Kaplan played on whoever watched it, is what it is.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It's nothing like any Red Riding Hood story I've ever seen.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Nope. I think it might be a must-watch.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Kind of. I wish we got some sort of kickbacks
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: from iTunes because it's available there, but I don't feel
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: comfortable telling people to spend anywhere from $ 3 to.
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: $ 5 to watch this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: But in a way, I feel like everybody needs to
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: see it, so I'm torn, really.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I can't believe they're charging $ 3.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That's just to view it. I think if you want
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: to download it, $ 4.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: 99.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: So that's the bargain because you're going to want to
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: show this to other people.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You're going to want to show it to your friends.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I And you got into it last week, I guess. Yeah, well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: once again, throw out the spoiler alert for this.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Go see it if you haven't seen it because it
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: needs to be seen.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I'm not going to say it's good, but.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: For our purposes, it kind of needs to be seen because, again, we've.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Built it up quite a bit on this show. Oh, wow.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: You know, I thought it was bad when I saw
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the wolf in leotard.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Frolicking. Is frolicking the right word for that?
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I won't argue that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I think I used something else last week, but frolicking
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: will work.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: It's definitely interpretive dance. I don't know what he'd be interpreting.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: He is a.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Like super high end ballet dancer in the real world.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Obviously. I mean, it was over my head, whatever it was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And, and I know he's got talent, but good Lord, um,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: that was just a waste.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And I said, man, I will try not to repeat myself. Um,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I liked what they were doing visually with Grandma's house
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and everything. That was kind of neat. Throwing it off,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: making it different.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Christina Ricci, as creepy as it is, I can look
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: at her, and even if it's teasingly undressing, that's okay.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Which, once again, that's his fault.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: It's not like he's.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Not knowingly doing this.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: He knows how old she is. He's asking her to
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: undress for the camera. I mean, it's Even if he
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: doesn't show it to you, he's playing on that. He
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: knows that you are sitting there looking at her like that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: You're still thinking that even though you're, God, stop it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Besides, we've all seen Black Snake move.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's not like, which we decided before, doesn't
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: that totally make it okay?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Because now she's 18. Now she's older. Now she's well
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: over 18. So it makes it totally fine to look
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: at her at any point ever before.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Wait, I shouldn't have had those thoughts about Casper, then
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: should I?
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: No.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Either way, go on with what you were saying.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the conversation in the bed, the path that it
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: goes down. Well, actually, before then, the cat calling her
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a slut. That's just a glimpse into the window of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: where we're going. Right.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: The road we're going.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And that's funny.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: The cat's very cartoonish in the way it's puppeteered.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: And the fact that it's a game puppet.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And the fact that it's a puppet. They didn't even
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: need that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: No.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: They could have just put a cat in there. I mean,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's narrated. It's not like he's actually needing to say it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: No one else is, you know, it's all narrated.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: No one else even moves their lips in the movie.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: Exactly.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Have very easily just been a cat. Why he chose
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to make it a weird puppet.
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And then the conversation in bed after the, what big
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: mouth you have, then they go down a road that
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Not prepared for. Um, and uh yeah it just you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: know the the wolf is not only a frolicking ballet
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: dancer and grandma killer and pedophile but then likes it
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that way you know that's that's pretty that's pretty that's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: some pretty sick stuff that we're dealing with i've not
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: seen that on the internet yet you know and there's.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: A lot of weird stuff on the internet but you
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: know what this kind of Because at least those you
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: know what you're getting yourself into. This one, I sat
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: down with a very different thing in my head of
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: where I thought we were going than where it ended up.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And then after that, it just kind of pitters off.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, that's the climax of the movie.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: It's the sad part.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I don't understand what they were doing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: And what's the very end, the little, was that supposed
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to be a nail or a wolf's nail or was
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: that a hook? What was she was dragging across her face?
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: I thought it was just a shot from earlier. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: thought it was that shot of his nail when they
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: were still in bed. I thought it was just them
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: inserting that after the fact. Or maybe they were getting
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: it on and we just didn't see that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. Did she just want to go
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to her house?
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Because she was being very alluring to him, even after
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: the fact. Even when she knew it was a wolf there,
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: that little scene. She waited for him. She threw the
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: fruit to get his attention. She stayed just out of
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: reach the whole time.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Again, what are we saying with what's going on in this?
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: Because it's creepy whatever it is.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Pedophiles can blame... their problems on The Little Girls. On
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Fairy Tales.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: I learned all my creepy behavior from Fairy Tales.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I can't watch Little Red Riding Hood the same anymore
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: after that one. It's tainted. It's tainted, yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: In so many ways.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: And just the word usage for what they're saying. Yeah,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: thank you. That was when we became screaming at the monitors.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: What?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: What? And I couldn't stay composed for the rest of it. No,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't blame you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: I was trying to shut up and just sit there
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: because I knew it was coming.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: It's a joke. It's a gag that they pulled on someone,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and that's all there is to it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: All right, we can leave it at that. That was
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: your sofa theater bonus feature there. So, yeah, now we're
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: going to actually go and watch– This week's Sofa Theater feature,
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Alien Intruder. Which also sounds like a bad porn title.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: That's what you said earlier. Alright, I think we see
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: our theme for this week.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Good lord.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: Who's the baddest dude in the galaxy who's slicker than
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: superfly enjoy the casino cooler than captain kirk i'm.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: Lando calrissian i'm the owner of this found establishment and
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: who might you be.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Cut the charm, Lando.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: The Black Star Warrior. That's who.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Gambler.
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: Smuggler. Scoundrel.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I hate you.
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: Running his cons right under the nose of the Galactic Empire.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I've got the cargo. I've got the connections. You. You've
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: got the ship. Doing business with you is nothing but trouble.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: The Empire would be all over me like stink on
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a Wookiee. No offense. Trust me. With all due respect,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think you realize who you're dealing with.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: He's just one man, Lieutenant.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You give him way too much credit. No, gentlemen. He
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is dangerous.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Calrissian must be destroyed.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: But when the man tries to shut him down.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Next time you hire a pilot to move cargo for you,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: make sure and hire one that won't dump it at
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Landau Calrissian? are under arrest.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: What charge?
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Think of something.
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: Lando shuts the man up.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Think about this.
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: Don't be a fool, television!
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: And he brings trouble right to their front door.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I got a really bad feeling about this.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Don't worry. Works every time. This is nuts, Lando. We're
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: never gonna get out of here alive. Blast him!
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna work. I thought he said this works
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: every time.
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: Get back to the ship.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I got this.
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: Get between this brother and his woman, and space ain't
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: black enough to hide from him.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Vader.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Ah, Mr.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Calrissian.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Won't you join us? Oh, mama.
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: You got a lot of beautiful girls here, Vader. How
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: about I take that one off your hands?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I'll deal with you soon, Calrissian.
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: The Black Star Warrior. If you want to see him,
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: ask your mama.
• 35:36
  Speaker 15: Are you still looking for that special someone? Have other
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: dating websites let you down? Hi, I'm Craig Fritz Rualdo.
• 35:44
  Speaker 15: host of lovefinder.com telling you to listen to show show
• 35:48
  Speaker 15: at show show.podomatic.com too many websites all in one sentence
• 35:52
  Speaker 15: you betcha but show show is a podcast about movies
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: for people like you who don't know what love is
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: listen to show show every week at show show.podomatic.com or
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: search show show all one word in the.
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: Itunes store.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: In the deepest regions of uncharted space.
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: There exists a danger more lethal than any being known
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: on Earth.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: It turns man against man.
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: It terminates without conscience.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: No remorse worse than a machine. Its name, Ariel. Wait
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: a minute, remember the first time we all saw it?
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: For God's sake, man, don't you remember what we all said?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: That's my fiancée you're talking about.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: We're looking for a few good men. Four convicts were
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: selected for our rescue mission.
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: Mancuso, Nick.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Navigator, first class.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: What's he in for? Mutiny. Peter McClellan, engineer, first grade.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Wiped out an entire family on the Autobahn. Demolitions expert.
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: Blew an armored car, five dead.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: What kind of time are you doing, DJ? Life.
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: Without parole.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: A real computer jock. He's as good as they get.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: There's a freighter running dark. We're going to go up there.
• 37:23
  Speaker 16: Hook her up until we're home.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: There's one more thing. The Aphrodite program. He's talking about
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: virtual reality.
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: Friday nights at 5 o'clock, you all have the weekend off.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Our own private programs. You choose your woman, your fantasy.
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: But once underway, the crew has a close encounter with
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: a creature beyond their worst nightmares. Commander Skyler is interested
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: in more than just the mission. And virtual reality is
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: no longer harmless fun.
• 38:01
  Speaker 13: It ain't supposed to happen this way.
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: Ghosts of prairie dogs tell me to turn around. I'm
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: an intruder and I don't belong here. Anytime I drive anywhere,
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: There's something still down there waiting to come out.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: All right, we are back with this week's real, well,
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know, that's arguable. The second of this week's
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Sofa Theater Feature.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: The full-length feature uh i guess you want to call
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: it that version.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Oh this was grueling you gotta sigh yeah you have
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to sigh just to say the name of.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: The movie oh yeah kind of this week's silver theater
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: feature is alien intruder the year yeah go ahead laugh at.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: It.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: The year is 1993. The director is Ricardo Jacques Gale.
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: Gale. I don't know.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: However you want to pronounce this. Ricardo Jacques Gale. Okay.
• 39:40
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Sounds good to me.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah. The plot, if you.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Want to go.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I want to hear this.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: It's There's not much to it. According to IMDb, space-traveling
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: convicts become the victims of their own fantasies when virtual
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: reality is made to go wrong. Made to go wrong?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Made to go wrong?
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I love IMDb.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: They don't watch these movies.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Or they let just any idiot write it that was
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: sucker enough.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: To have watched this.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait, that was it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 17: Spoiler alert! We don't want to ruin this for you.
• 40:24
  Speaker 17: But before we even get to our version, it's time for.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: And this story, I have to say, is probably one
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: of my favorite ones from the Waltz story. Mostly because
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: it has nothing to do with the movie.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: So yeah, we will hear what Billy Dee thought of
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: making Alien and Trudy.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Alien and Trudy, what was that? There was another low budget.
• 40:53
  Speaker 18: All I remember about that whole situation, if that's the
• 40:56
  Speaker 18: one I'm thinking about, was every morning going out to
• 41:01
  Speaker 18: Long Beach, I think it was Long Beach, and We
• 41:04
  Speaker 18: were using a warehouse out there, but every day you
• 41:06
  Speaker 18: had to pass a pig factory, but it was a
• 41:09
  Speaker 18: slaughter factory.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: And I remember.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: The stench was like horrific. But I remember one morning
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I got up and I said, when they bring those
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: poor little pigs in the truck, I'm going to jump
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: out and.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Unlatch the gates and let them all free. That would
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: have been interesting on the news.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Billy Dee Williams, let's lose an entire group of people.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: It has no bearing on the movie. I will say, though, yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: if nothing else, it has an odd tie-in to our
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: recent Oscar Mayer party. So, you know, there you go.
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Well, that's, yeah, you got to love Billy Dee Williams.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Just for that story alone, you got.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: To love Billy Dee, so.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Alright, Alien Intruder. Alien Intruder. Where would you like to begin?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I think start with 1993. I had to look it
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: up while we were watching it because I wasn't sure when... And,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you know, now that I think about it, that was
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: like that era of like that Silk Stalkings.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. That's kind of what this was like.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, give me Silk Stalkings and Quantum Leap a little
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: bit so you get all the stories.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 42:29
  Speaker 13: And.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I think you hit it right there, though.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think somebody sat in a meeting and
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: the pitch was, okay.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Silk Stalkings, In space.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: In space.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: And that's all they had to say.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: And some idiot went, all right, make it. Here's $ 14.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: Now go make it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was like four sets.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: There was like the factory, the hallway, the bridge. And
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the sleeping chambers. And that was it. That was it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And they kept shooting it from every different... Even the
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: other ships. The other ship was the exact same warehouse.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a warehouse. It was a spaceship.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It was a warehouse that was like... Why do you
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: need a warehouse like this of all this empty space?
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You know, space should be tight and cramped and there's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: no room, you know.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: No.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: No warehouses in space. That's what we need.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was. And, you know, okay. I'm going to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: stop here and be serious about talking about film.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: For a minute.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Then we're not talking about this movie anymore.
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: There were parts of it that weren't horrible. Now, the script...
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: The script is really bad.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: It was the 12-year-old kid watching Silk Stalkings in.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: His room late at night.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Bad.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: You know, and actually, yeah, that's about right.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: Because, yeah, some of the lines that we noted... I
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: can only see that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: From a 12 year old going that would be so awesome.
• 44:08
  Speaker 14: It's like we were firing guns back and forth and
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: you said let's dance and my retort would be dance
• 44:18
  Speaker 14: on this and then I'd shoot you with a laser.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: A blue laser.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: You've only got a gun but I've got a laser.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: When you enter into any of these science fiction movies
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: there's sort of that immediate okay what's the technology we're
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: dealing with you know and most of the time it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: super space lasers but then sometimes it's sort of retro
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: you get like aliens and they're just firing you know
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: normal machine guns and so once again you just have
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: to kind of put everything in perspective but then right
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: off the bat here it's like guns lasers it's like
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: shotguns yeah it's just A mixture of stuff that there's
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: no real explanation why this guy's got one, this guy's
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: got another, why they both exist in this little world.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Why would you be carrying around a regular gun if
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: you've got lasers at your disposal? I mean, it doesn't...
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: Not only does it not make sense, but at the
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: same time, it doesn't explain why there's.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Some reason to force it to make sense.
• 45:17
  Speaker 19: Yeah, it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: The science, if you want to call it what they have,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: is science.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Is, yeah, in question almost every step of the way
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: in this.
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: There is no feeling, the interior scene, well, the whole
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: thing is essentially interior scenes when they're on the ship.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: There is no feeling, there's no, every movie has some
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: kind of, you have to deal with, you're in space.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: You know, that's part of the canon. That's part of
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: something you have to do with a space project. none
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: of that's in here. No, there's no weird, there's anti-gravity.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: There's no, none of that. There's, you know, there's Coke
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: cans and bottled water, just, just sitting out. Like I said,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: there's just this open, plenty of open space that if
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: you were trying to save money and build a ship,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: you would never have that much open space on a spaceship. And,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And apparently they run on steam power. Did you notice that?
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: They were fixing steam lines with PVC.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: That was my favorite.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I was looking around and it was nothing but PVC pipe.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: I'm like, wow, they couldn't even borrow somebody's boiler room
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: with real metal piping. They had PVC pipe everywhere.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It's just pitiful. Yeah, they didn't have any money for
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the sets.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: They rented out a couple of warehouses and just shot.
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: It in there.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: And the thing is, I don't fault people for that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know what?
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: I don't have any money either. But I think this
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: is the thing. I mean, there's a lot of people
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: out there shooting movies on shoestring budgets. The thing is,
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: you've got to realize what you're dealing with going in.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: It's like, if you don't have that much money... Don't
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: set your story in space.
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: Right, right.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, you learn from, you know, anybody along the way.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: It's like you look at something like clerks. You know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: it's like that guy had no money. That guy went,
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: where am I at all day long? This stupid convenience store. Hey,
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: I'll just bring the camera in here at night and
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: shoot a movie here. Right. It feels real.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: You know why? It's a real convenience store.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: You know, it's like you look at something like that.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: And there's plenty of other examples like that. But it's
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: just people who understand their limitations. budget-wise, you know, sets-wise, surroundings, actors.
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: It's like you've got to take all this stuff into
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: account when you're making this movie. You can write whatever.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: If you're writing a novel, you can write whatever the
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: hell you want because you don't have to make it
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: take physical form in front of you. But a movie,
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: you need to understand your limitations going in.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why, especially in this price range.
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: We hit this... And it may have been this time,
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: but I say that, but there's always been bad versions
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: of low-budget movies like this that they just don't understand that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: But they could have low-budgeted it enough.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a better way.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Even with the story. Okay, let's say, hey, we've got
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: the story. Because the basic idea for the story, even
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: though it was muddy trying to figure out what it was,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: that this.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, is infiltrating and taking over these guys'
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: fantasies and getting them to basically turn the ship over.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I guess that's what they're trying to do.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: Kind of.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really work out that way. I know. Is
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: she blowing it up? Is she... She's trying to take
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: out all of our fleet one ship at a time.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: One ship at a time?
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, four months apart or whatever. So it's a little...
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: But that, again... The idea that she's getting into our fantasies. Basically,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sure someone was watching Next Generation and saying, what
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: happens if the holodeck is taken over by an alien intruder? Basically,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: that's what you've got here. Basically. Basically. So that'll– you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the actual fantasy scenes were done pretty well.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: They were better than these– again, if you look at
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: all of those, like, the sets that they work in
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: and– I mean– The.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: 50s one, the Western one. The Western one was okay. Casablanca.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: Casablanca, I don't know. Some of that office, the interior
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: on that office looked very set, like very cheaply built set.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: But it was still better than the spaceship.
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: Better than the spaceship, I'll give you that.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: And it was better than the Alcatraz 2 set, or
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: the new Alcatraz business set.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, once again, and this was just writing-wise, in any
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: futuristic story, I love when everything can be made futuristic.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: By making it new or space. Right. That became the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: joke for me the whole way. It'll be a piece
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: of space cake.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: Once again, we're not joking. That's a line from the movie.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: It'll be a piece of space cake. God, I wish
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: I was making that up. It'll be a piece of cake.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: Space cake. Oh, God.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that bad.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: It's that bad.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Say goodbye, dickhead.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: It's a 12-year-old that watched Silk Stalkings, that likes Star Wars,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: and saw Next Generation with the holodeck and saw the movie.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And shot it himself with his lunch money.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: With his Fisher-Price plastic camcorder that I had one of.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I need to dig that out and work that.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: That was pretty impressive for a day, but doesn't mean
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: you need to shoot a feature film on it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I have a major bone to pick about. I mean,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I know I'm jumping around and you might have some
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: better ideas.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: It's hard.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the thing. When I thought about it afterwards,
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: I was just like, there's about a half an hour
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: worth of story here.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Like, this could have been an interesting episode on something, but.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: Man, is it drug out. I mean, there's not really
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: that much to address in the overall plot. So, yeah,
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: go ahead and jump in wherever you want.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: They have an android on the ship that they're taking
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: out to rescue in. And this guy stands around.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: He's in maybe, what, six scenes or so?
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: My question is... He's an android? Right.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Did they really explain that ever?
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, they make the jokes as they come in,
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: but did they introduce him as that?
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: When they leave the dock and they're flying off into space,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the computer that says that some rescue ship is going
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: out and they give the little status updates. And they
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: say five humanoid or whatever and one android.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Or something like that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Something along the line where she mentioned it, but it's
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: so fast.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: That you can't get it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: And they don't associate that it's this weird guy. I mean,
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: once again, then they start making the jokes about, hey,
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: screw the trash compactor or whatever.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, that stuff. And I was like, okay, I
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: guess this guy is some sort of robot.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: Right. Again, it's like just bad character introduction slash development.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Right off the bat.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: It doesn't speak. It doesn't involve itself in any way.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: It doesn't affect the story in any way. It's just
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: another character that dies.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: Which is all they wanted, really.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: That was kind of a good shot of it dead
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: with the thing protruding from its eye, whatever.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: But that was it. I mean, there was no reason
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to have that guy in that movie at all.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: He was probably, like, not even an actor. He was, like,
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: one of the lawyers that helped put this deal together.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: They were like, look, we'll get you in the movie.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm not very good at acting.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: You won't even have to talk.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: It's okay. You're a tall dude. We'll find something to.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Do with you. He literally stood there. I mean, it
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: didn't involve anything else other than that.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: I want to address, and you specifically brought it up
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: right off the bat, so I will give you credit
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: for delivering the line, which was, if you can't afford
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: a good set, go with bad lighting. So that points
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: to you on that one, but the more I watched
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: after that, that's all I noticed is, oh my god,
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: you can't see anything in this.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: And it didn't really distract me from the fact that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: your sets are.
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: Terrible, but.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: Really? And maybe this is just a really bad copy
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: we're looking at here. Maybe there's some master somewhere that
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: looks beautiful, but in some of these scenes, I'm just like,
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: these people are half-lit at best.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: At best.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: At best.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: And even then, it's like you're lucky to figure out
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: what's going on and... That's why it's such a shock
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: to the system when they get to the old west.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: And it's like it's outside.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And it's lit.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And it's like you can actually see.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: So maybe that's why those feel so much better. Because
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: the 50s when it's outside almost entirely.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: The west weren't.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're all just like so much.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: But you know when they're in the interior of his
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: fantasy on the beach, you can't see.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Anything going on in there. Yeah, it's back to being dark.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: So they just didn't have a cinematographer whatsoever. They just...
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Didn't have lighting, guys. I don't know.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: But, yeah, there's just a major issue there with lighting that, again,
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know if there was just not a budget
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: for them to worry about it.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: They were just, well, whatever. This is what we have.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Shoot it.
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: Or if really it was strategically planned, the set looks bad.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: Let's keep the lighting low.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You know, it was very inconsistent lighting because sometimes it
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: was well lit and sometimes it wasn't. And that was
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: not a device of the camera. That was.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: That person doesn't have a light meter. That's basically what
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: That person just does not know what they're doing. And
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: that's pretty early on.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can work in a lot of pretty
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: low-end stuff and build your way up to that. I mean,
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of projects out there where you start
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: to learn that kind of stuff. And obviously, they do
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: not have that going. No.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Billy Dee. Do we want to talk about Billy Dee?
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: We can go into the actors individually. I will say
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: right now... that, that is the real crime in this
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: movie is I just, I feel so bad for Billy Dee.
• 55:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Because he's a real actor. And even, I mean, of
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: what you're looking at here, he does what he can.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: Like he, there's times when I'm like, that's delivered pretty good.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: And that's, you know, he's, he's still like, he walks
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: in that first scene. I'm like, Matt, there's Billy Dee.
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: He's a badass already.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: So I mean, though the writing is extremely clumsy.
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I don't care if it's, I don't care.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: It, who it is, they're not going to be able
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: to deliver, deliver clumsy lines.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, and you just can't save it. Like
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: even if his delivery is awesome, when the person he's
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: up against is saying something, a stupid, right.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: And B he's delivering it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: Not so great.
• 56:32
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: It's like, it just, it brings your performance down. Even
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: if you're doing a decent job, which I think again,
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: for this movie, he was doing, you know, top of
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: the line stuff, uh, But it doesn't matter because, I mean,
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: especially by the last half of the movie, he has
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: nothing to do. He just sits at a screen and
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: he sort of runs around a little bit at the
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: end there. But, I mean, there's a whole middle part
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: of the movie where he just has nothing to do
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: with the story. He just sits there.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He drinks. He drinks a lot, which.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: We decided wasn't malt liquor.
• 57:04
  Speaker 13: No.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Then I said it was space malt liquor, so that
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: made it okay.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: New space malt liquor. It's new space malt liquor. Was
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: he Schlitz? Is that who he.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Pitched for back in the day. Colt 45, that's right.
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: Ice cold, Colt 45.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Not back in the day, he's back on it again. Oh,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: is he? A whole new ad campaign. I don't pay
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: attention to malt liquor, so sorry.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: Actually, while we're on the subject, less than a block away,
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: right at the end of this street, there is a
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: weird little tiny neighborhood store, which feels like it's from
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: the 50s. I didn't even think they made these anymore,
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: but there's one down there that's closed half the time
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: anyway it's pointless that it exists other than the fact
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: that i walk by there every once in a while
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: and in the front window they have a.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: A billy d.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: Williams approved it says that like this location is billy
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: d williams approved it's a light up picture of him
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: holding a colt 45 and i i almost feel like
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: i need to go in there and just give them
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: a blank check Too bad they wouldn't get more than
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: about four bucks out of it. But I'm just like,
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: whatever it takes for me to get this light of
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: Billy Dee Williams, I think I need.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: We might need a picture of that. Because this sign
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: is awesome.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: So yeah, he again makes everything cooler. Even that weird
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: little store down the street, he makes cooler just by
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: his presence.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: He couldn't save this movie. No, unfortunately.
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: No.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: And even he kind of knows that.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you're listening to him talk about it,
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: he's just like, oh, yeah. And in a way, I
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: like talking to people about that kind of stuff because,
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, it is one of those... I'm almost as
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: interested to hear what they have to say about the
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: bad movies as the good because, I mean, to me,
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: I just like hearing the stories. And when you talk
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: to normal people, you get that... I mean, you don't
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: always hear these, you know... Bright and shiny. I mean,
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: you go to normal media and all you get are
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: these fluff pieces that are just like, oh, we had
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: the best time making this movie and, you know, everybody
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: got along wonderful. and I kind of like it better
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: when actors are just like oh I want to forget
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: about that movie you know because that's a real person
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: and that's a real story and it's like I'm not
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: just doing it to mess with them I'm like if
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: you ask me about some bad job I had 10
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: years ago you know what I'll tell you how bad
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: it was it's like you know I think.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe people will.
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: Say, oh, it's different when it's art. But I'm like, well,
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: it's art when it's good. When it's bad, it was
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: just a job. And even the actors will tell you that,
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: you know, this was a paycheck. I needed to take
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: care of whatever situation I was in.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: This job came along and I took it.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: And I don't think even they look at a lot
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: of the stuff that turns out bad as art. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: think they realize it's a job more than anybody.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: And if they can't laugh at it and talk about it,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: then they're assholes. That's the other thing.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: If you can't just, yeah, that was a part of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: my life and I did it. There's a whole lot,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: like you said, a whole lot of jobs I took
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: that I didn't like who I was working for.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't agree who I was working for. I hated
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the job I was doing, but I did it because
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I needed that check. They're people just like we are.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: They need those checks.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: That's kind of why I like... You really get a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: sense of the people that you're talking to, too. I've
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: talked to several of them now that have actually kind
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: of laughed about it and be like, Oh, you know what?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: This is a bad movie, but I had fun doing it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: And they'll give you reasons why they actually liked the experience.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: Even if the movie came out kind of cheesy or,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: you know, even if it was bad overall, they'll tell
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: you it was bad and they'll tell you why. And I,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: you know, I think that's kind of equally as interesting
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: going into these kinds of projects in talking about, it's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: probably more interesting than the movie itself.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Um, The guy that played Lloyd.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: Gary Roberts.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Gary Roberts, yeah. He looks MC Ganey. They look... You
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about? Which one is Lloyd? Lloyd is.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: Is he the Western guy?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: The Western guy. Okay, yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, in a way, he was not...
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: terrible as a performer.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: No. Because I actually bought him as a dick.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Like, that's the thing. He's a horrible character, don't get
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: me wrong. I hate him when he's on screen.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: Right. But I'm watching as it goes on, and I'm like, well,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: as an actor, he's doing a good job.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: He probably did about the best job. He kind of did.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, outside of Billy Dee, I mean, he's about
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: all you've got to work with here. And it's sad,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: because he's obnoxious the whole time, and I hate him, but...
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: He sort of turns in a realistic performance where I'm
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: not buying DJ, you know?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: He seems fake from the first second he's on screen.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: And the other, the Peter, the guy with the long
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: hair just doesn't fit, doesn't work.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: Nothing works with him. Like, the look, the attitude, the,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, everything about him just doesn't add up.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: None of them go together. None of them belong on
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: this guy. None of them belong on the interest that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: he has. None of them belong in a prison. I mean,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: nothing matches with that guy especially.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: And then Maxwell Caulfield's role, the, I guess, lead character.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: Our lead character is Maxwell Caulfield, if you're not familiar
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: with him.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: And good lord, he just seems like an ass, doesn't he?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure in the real world I've heard some
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: pretty bad stories about him. So, again, maybe it's just
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: carrying over into this movie because, yeah, he just seems, like,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: pissed off all the time in this.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: And, again, maybe it's not so much acting. Maybe, like,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: once again, this wasn't a great project.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: So maybe that attitude's coming through in the character that
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: he's pissed that he even has to do this movie.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: And it's coming through his neck. Right.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: And he, you know, like the woman who's coming on
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: to him after her shower, you know, he's like, hmm,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: how dare you try to sleep with me.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And he does the same thing with Ariel. He's like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: how dare you, you know.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Well, maybe he was more interested in those other guys
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: in prison.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: He doesn't, yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: There's other options, you know, maybe we don't know about.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: But either way, he's being a dick regardless.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it seems completely natural is the thing.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: He doesn't impress me much in the way of.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: He's never impressed me as an actor.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Right, right. I don't remember how many things I've seen
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: him in, but all of them.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: I've not really been impressed.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 10: Oh, man.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: Do we want to round out the performances?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I guess old Scoggins? Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: I don't get it. And granted, she sort of disappeared now,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: so we at least have that in our favor. But
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: at this point in time, like, in the 90s, this
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: whole era, like, the end of the 80s, well into
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: the mid-90s, like, people.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Acted like she was a big deal. Like, she was
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: a name. Granted, it was, like, in straight-to-DHS features. silk
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: stockings silk.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: Stockings and stuff on cable and wasn't she on Lois
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: and Clark wasn't that like the most mainstream I think
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: that was like the closest to like a mainstream well
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: known project that she sort of broke through on but
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: even on there it was just like she was the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: obnoxious chick on there it's like she was there to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: balance out the cuteness.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Of Lois so you gotta have somebody be a jerk
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and it was her She has that 1990 look. She does, really.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Her structure to her face, everything about her is... And
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: it's not my cup of tea.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: I think that's part of it with me. It's like...
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: And maybe this comes into play, as we mentioned earlier
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: in the episode. Maybe it's just that look. It's like she,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: to me, looks like somebody who's trying really hard to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: be attractive. And... there's not and if you stripped it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: down there wouldn't be much there because I feel like
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: it's like she's kind of got the Monet thing going
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: on it's like if you looked at her I can
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: understand she's got all the trappings of what most quote
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: unquote guys would find attractive but I get up close
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: and I'm just like I don't want any of that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: just like it becomes a big old mess.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Since we're going to talk purely superficially let's talk for
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: the women in this movie okay And you brought it up.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: The women from the advertisement of the fantasy women you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: could be with, none of them. Not one of them
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: was attractive.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing. I mean, they're running through these women.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, normally I wouldn't be that superficial.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: But they're running through fantasy women. Like, this would be, like,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: every bad Playboy playmate should be up there. Everybody in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: the most, like, glossy, you know, superficial version of a chick...
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: Should be up there on the screen behind them. Perfect.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: Especially perfect. Because they aren't even real. It's a virtual
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: version of a woman. So there would be no imperfections. And...
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: 98% of them are really unattractive.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that these women... aren't unattractive. I mean, they're not,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you know, you strip them down and you take them
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: away from the role that they're playing.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're probably not. I don't want to be
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: an asshole and say that they're unattractive, but... Tell them
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: we're design blames. I'm loving these softballs. No, but what
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is... Again, if your show is supposedly showing perfection,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: they better be pretty damn good looking.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: And once again, it's like they're shooting this, I'm assuming,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: in Hollywood. I'm like, there's not a shortage of not
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: only attractive women, but very fake, plasticky looking women. You
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: would think, and again, this is probably a budget limitation,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: but it would be relatively easy to find... What, 12
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: girls maybe that they flipped through there?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: They could bring them in and buy them lunch and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: afford it. So it's not.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: Just say, you're going to be in a movie. Even
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: for a second, you're going to be in a movie.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: And there should be a line of girls in Hollywood waiting.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: With Billy Dee Williams. Yeah, waiting to do that.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: And they still couldn't deliver on that. That's just kind
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: of sad that even that little second of the movie
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: also seemed kind of cheap.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Now, here's part two of the superficial portion of the show.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: The.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: All of the women who were supposed to be the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: lesser ones, the fantasy women of the guys, the four
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: fantasy women, but the lesser ones, not as attractive as Ariel...
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: all of them were better looking than her.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: In my opinion.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: And spoiler alert once again, what does she do to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: them all?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: She kills them all.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: This becomes her role is to work herself into the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: fantasy of each of these.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Guys very subtly, if you want to call it that.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: And then by the next time we reenter this fantasy,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: she basically takes out each of the women that they
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: were sort of allotted, as part of this deal, they
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: get to pick one of the women off that screen
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: and they insert them in this made-up fantasy that they,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: I guess, design or at least get to pick the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: scenario of. And then they get to, you know, do
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: whatever with this specific woman. You only get one woman,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: you pick her out, that's it. Well, she disposes of
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: them and then takes over as the lead in their fantasies, basically.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: You know, that was the most interesting part of the movie.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I went into it and it failed.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: I was not thrilled with the fact that it took
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: that turn. Because I think as I was having so
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: much fun in the early part, because it was so cheesy,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: I was kind of having fun with the sets and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: the bad dialogue, and it was kind of fun. Well,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: then it takes that turn, and it's like, at that
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: point it's not... as fun anymore. It's not funny because
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: the sets aren't as cheesy, and the dialogue's not quite
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: as bad.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: But it's just a bad movie. But it's just, yeah,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. It also doesn't get better.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's slightly better than that mess of the beginning,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: but it's not a good movie either. So at that point,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: you lose all the fun that was in the first half,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: and you're just kind of left with mediocre at best.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: But then, as you say that, I could at least appreciate...
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: the parts of it that were better at that point.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: And then when you get out of those fantasies, like,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: you do it once, and then, like, 15 minutes later,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: you're back in them again. And once you leave them
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: that second time, the movie, like, steadily goes downhill.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: And that's saying something.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: And it's supposed to be the fast-paced... point of the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: movie where all the actions happen and it's just like
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: okay get this.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: Over with yeah it was grueling that last half and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: i and.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: That's saying something the reason the path that i was
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: going down with the fact that it was the better
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: portion of the movie the turn it could have taken
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: is instead of showing that she had disposed of them
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: like the the girl on the beach um that could
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: have turned into a great horror movie at that point
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: where she was taking these women out in the fantasy.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: That could have been cool to watch.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: Um, we didn't really get that.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: No, it shows you, you know, a bullet, a stray
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: bullet hits one of them. And one girl's just dead
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: on the beach. And I, You know, the whole tie
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: the guy up scene in bed.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: That was silk stocking. That was silk stocking. That was
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: massively silk stocking. That was just dumb. That was Brent
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Hugh Diaries. Yes, it was.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: Since we're doing early 90s here, yeah, let's go ahead
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: and throw in all the bad sex references of bad
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: sex cable projects.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: It could have then been ratcheted up horror movie, and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: then you could have done the same thing on the ship.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: And made it almost a she's now someone after them.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: That could have been– it wasn't technical enough to be psychological.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: And that's what it was going for is, ooh, this
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: thing is getting us. Or even a Freddy Krueger, we
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: can't escape her.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, it could have gone a couple of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: different ways there, and it didn't do either.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: Uh-uh.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: And the way that it goes is the least interesting. Hey,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: put it this way.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: That 12 year old boy after the tied up scene
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: in the bedroom, he wasn't interested anyway.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: At that point he took a nap and then the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: screenwriter went in and.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Went, what do I do with this?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't care.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I got off. That's all that matters.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: All right, let me finish writing something here.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it really tailed off and.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: And not soon enough. Like I was just like, Oh please.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: By the end I was like, This last scene is
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: kind of dumb, but please let the credits roll so
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: we can be done with this.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: It was about two hours, and it could have been
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: an hour and a half.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: A half an hour.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: At least an hour-long show, so it would have been
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: about 46 minutes. Once you throw commercials in. It could
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: have been one of those, and I don't think it
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: would have been any less. I think you could have
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: easily told this story that same way. taken out a
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: good portion of that filler in the last half of it,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: and hopefully turned it into a better wrap-up, too, where
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: maybe either one, I mean, she could have turned into
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: some physical manifestation and they would have had to deal
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: with her, or she could have actually really gotten into
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: the heads of one of them and not just been
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: like genie whispering in their ear as they jump around,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: but actually made them crazy.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Because, I mean, in the end, that's.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: What this becomes. This is a story about space madness
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: and only it's this creature this they refer to more
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: as a virus but it's a virus that comes with
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: DNA from an alien or something weird like that so
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: I mean basically it's it's What's the cheapest way we
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: can have an alien movie and not have an alien
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: in it? I mean, it's called Alien Intruder, and, I mean,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: you don't ever really see an alien. The closest scary
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: thing you see is Tracy Scoggins. I mean, they found, like,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: a loophole in, well, we, you know, once again, budget limitations.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: It's like they probably wrote it specifically because at the end,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: do we have to have a big giant monster that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: we fight?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: No, because we can't afford one.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: So instead, let's find this way to make it all
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: in their minds.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 14: And then they fight each other because it's crazy space madness.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, he even uses, Billy Dee even uses
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: that cop-out as far as saving money is he says
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: that the ships were made identically.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: So that they can use the same set.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: They were smart. No, they weren't smart, but they tried
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: to be smart. They tried to be smart.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: It didn't pan out for them so much.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kept thinking that we were going to get
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: some kind of.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Her becoming, revealing that she's an alien, but no, that
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: never happened.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, again, there's a lot of other movies
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: that tried to do something, and the wrap-up becomes something
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: like that. The set-up isn't the same as this at all,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: but in the end, a lot of sci-fi movies kind
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: of go that route, and it turns around, and you're
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: dealing with a much bigger life form, usually physically, because
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: then that can be your grand finale, is a big
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: monster-type creature to kill, and yeah, there's no battle.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: But that takes some kind of special effects.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: Special effects and budget and.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: I guess the biggest special effects in this were either
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: the orange spaceships floating around... Which I was trying to decide,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: were those made out of Legos? I think they were made.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: Out of Legos.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: The blue lasers.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: Which, the ones in the prison?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Right. Those were pretty fancy. Oh, the red lasers on
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: the bars? The bars, yeah.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: There were the blue lasers on the gun, but then
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: when they were in prison, they had laser bars.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Right. I don't even know how to describe those exactly.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: They were red lines.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: They were cutting edge of 1993 technology, I suppose, because.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: You know, it really puts in perspective.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: I was graduating high school in 1993, and it doesn't
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: seem like the world was like that.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it was that long ago, really,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: in my mind. And I can't believe they put this
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: out in 1993.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: And again, I think it's all budget, because I can
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: find new movies older.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Than that that look better than this. Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: And it's because they just had more budget to work
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: with and had more skilled people behind it that... know
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: how to make stuff look right, and know how.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: To hide it when they can't make it.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, when they realize that it's 1980, and we
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: don't have the technology to do this, how do we
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: work around that? And there's just smarter ways to do that,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: and they just didn't know how to do it, I'm assuming,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: in this.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: There are student films, one of those 48-hour festivals, there
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: are student films that have No budgets and pull better
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: stuff off.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. Which, again, I mean, you don't want
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: to totally trash them.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: They try.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: They try.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: They just– you just need to realize going in you
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: don't have the goods there, you know?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Write something that you can manage.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Write something that you're in one– if you don't have
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: a budget– Like I said, with Clerks, they filmed from
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: a car, a rooftop, outside of the store and inside
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: of the store.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was basically the movie.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: And I mean, you can do, now especially, I mean,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: you look at something like Moon. Moon is like nothing
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: budget compared.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: To major studio releases.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: And it looks amazing.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: Now, granted, it's a very different technological world now. But still,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, just to compare, it's like, Once again, that's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: somebody who knows how to work the system, knows how
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: to work around what they can't do. And again, a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: lot of that is set in one place. Very limited
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: number of actors. It's like they realize what the budget
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: they're going in, who they can call favors in on
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: to make it look good. It's like they worked away
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: to make it look good.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: Did you have a nice weekend, Van Cuso?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: You changed the course. That's right. I'm supposed to be
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: your navigator. Why the hell didn't you tell me first?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: You're on a need-to-know basis, Mancuso.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Or did you forget?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: Okay, one of the only other things that seemed really
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: just laughable, and it was into these, I guess, as
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: we look back, the more interesting segments, but... Okay, so
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: you get.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: What?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: The weekend to go into these fantasies.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: And I think we even made some of these comments,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: but I just really wanted to go into it. Why
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: are you wasting your time with all this other stuff?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: You've got a fantasy world where you can do everything
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: and you're going to go in and like... Again, these
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: are guys in prison. Mm-hmm. In the real world, they're A, guys. B,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: guys that just got out of prison. All you're going
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: to want to do is fuck.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, let's be realistic. All these guys would want
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: to do is, I mean, and they're giving them a woman.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: They're basically saying, this is all you're going to do.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Go go to town, have fun. And we go in
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: and we see scenes of him.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: Running on the beach and working out on some sort
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: of equipment. I'm like, really? Your fantasy is to work
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: out on some sort of piece of equipment. And while
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: the girl that walks by half naked, you give attitude to.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: When she approaches him, he gives her attitude and walks
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: away from her.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: And then when Ariel's on top of him... He keeps
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: saying no, no, no.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Is he gay?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Then it wouldn't be his fantasy.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, then it's their fault for not researching
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: what it was. But if so, he was playing along
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: because didn't he have to pick somebody? Wasn't there another
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: disc with guys on it? I mean, they should open this.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Up to everybody. Especially if they're getting guys from prison.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure. We're probably going to run into that scenario.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: Let's just go ahead and cater to everyone.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: But not even that. Like, okay, even if you take
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: the girls out of it, I'm just like.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: I could understand, I guess, if it was after a while,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: you know? And they were up there a couple of months,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: but still, I think for these guys, they're pretty dumb.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: They would not get tired of sex right off the bat.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: No. If you're talking.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: Years and years, eventually you'd bore with that, and you'd
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: want to move off, and maybe you would do other stuff. But,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, he's devoting so much of his old
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: West time to gunfights.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: Now, the steak thing, I can understand that he might
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: want a good steak cooked for him, but yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: That's all very, you know, self-indulgent. And riding a Harley
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: with a... Again, riding a Harley, eh.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Again, it seems like a real quick setup, but I mean,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: we see nothing but him riding around and trashing a
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: small town and getting into fights with people. It's like, really?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: This is your fantasy?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It just seems so....
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what's the whole thing with the Casablanca fantasy?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: That's such a waste of time.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: They're drinking, and he has that squirrely guy asking him.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: You got to give me the documentary.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah. None of it goes anywhere. I'm just like, this
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: is your fantasy?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: To rip off a 10 million times better movie.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: And steal lines kind of directly from it. And they
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: do steal.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: And they do.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Right. And characters and outfits.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, everything about it, it's not like, I mean, first,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: when they first get to it, I'm like, okay, he's
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: just doing like a noir kind of thing. Right. There's
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: plenty of movies that have that look. But as it
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: goes into, like, once he leaves the office, I'm like, no,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: this is straight up Casablanca.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's fully intends to be.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: But again, I mean, like, once again, these guys all
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: seem too dumb to do that. Like, I think Casablanca's awesome.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: Maybe eventually I'd get around to wandering through Casablanca, but
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Not that I'm any better than these guys,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: but it just seems fake is what it is. You know,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: I'm just like, it seems very forced. And especially for
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: these characters, it just did not fit them that they
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: would be spending so much time on these little side
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: stories and extra plot lines and random side characters. And again,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: I guess it's a movie we've got to allow for
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: some sort of scene to take place. But it just
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: all feels really fake to me.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, well, you know, when you have a kid
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: that was 12 years old and watching Silk Stocking is
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: right at it. I'm convinced that that's what happened. If
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: you're going to get into fantasies, let's make them a fantasy. Although,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: you could have established with one line, if you wanted
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: to go down that line of, we've been on the
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: ship for three months, you could say, well, the first month,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: all I did was fuck.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. Say that. Get it out of the way.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: In better developed characters, I think you would do that.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: And they're like, well, okay, this is a fantasy. I
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: really can't explore this.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: Where would you.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: again, if we're going to steal from the holodeck idea, that,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, if anybody made use of that little twist
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: in a plot line, I mean, you go back to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: the Star Trek world, and specifically that TV series, it
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: spent so many episodes inside that, and sort of exploring
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: what you could do with a plot that takes place
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: in a fake situation, or what happens to these characters
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: when they're in this situation, and and where they do
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: end up going. And those characters all seem well-developed enough
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: that I buy that eventually, you know, granted, they probably
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: did the same thing.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Riker's kind of an idiot, too.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: In the beginning, I'm sure all he did was fuck.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: But eventually, you know, the other characters and more well-developed
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: characters come along, and I'm sure, you know, I buy
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: those stories. It's like those characters... feel real in exploring
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: those worlds. I mean, specifically, Picard goes into a film
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: noir world, and he does all that stuff.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: So, again, I buy it with him. I don't with
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: these guys. You don't with those guys.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Well, didn't Data do the one where he was Sherlock Holmes?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: And he wanted one so difficult that he couldn't solve it.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Boy, I'm geeking it out now.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: But again, I think that's somebody using that to their advantage.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: That's somebody realizing that this really is unlimited in the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: way that you can take the story and how much
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: you can explore things, like, you know, just very deep,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: you know. I mean, most of what, especially Next Generation,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: really got into that weird, like, Exploring the characters and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: the motivations behind them, especially Data. Data had that big
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: humanity thing. He had the whole Pinocchio scenario going on.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: So everything was about finding out how to be real
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: and what made you a person. So they used that
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: to sort of delve into all these different avenues.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: This movie does not. Yet this movie is epic.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: After that. You know they watched it. You can't pretend
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: like they didn't.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: That's the sad part. You're like.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: That's a TV show. Granted a TV show that had
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: a budget.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: And good writers. And good writers. And a good concept.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: And good actors. It's way better than it will ever be.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: But.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Again you can see what.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: They're trying to do on the TV show and what
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: they just painfully miss.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: At in this movie. Yeah, this is a miss the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: entire time. Pretty much.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: From the opening, just the music as the credits are going,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: it just sounds cheesy. It sounds like it wants to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: be sci-fi music in a sci-fi movie, and they're trying
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: really hard to be sci-fi movie music, and it's just
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: painfully cheesy, and it doesn't get any less cheesy when...
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: conway's on the.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Screen jeff conway i know jeff conway opens this movie
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: but he.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Plays crazy so well because he's really crazy exactly i
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: mean that's that was that was probably the best casting
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: they did yeah in the entire movie i guess.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Okay maybe billy d billy d was a big.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: Gift yes for this i mean i'm sure billy d
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: is what sold this movie i'm sure they had him
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: attached and then went okay, now we can get a
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: little bit of money, and now we can get other
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: actors on board, and yes, I'm pretty sure.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: But Conaway, I didn't want any more from his storyline.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: I was frustrated and bored with it early on. I
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: was like, I really don't care what's wrong.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 10: With these guys.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like 10 minutes tough. Yeah. But he definitely
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: was the best part.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: Of that, unfortunately.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 10: That segment, I mean, yeah.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately. I mean, the rest of it was.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: Just bad special effects and bad pretend falling down because
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: I just got shot.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not going to say that that part worked,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: but he worked in that part.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, again, doing the best with what little
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: you're given.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: He can do crazy just fine.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: He can do.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: Crazy just fine. No, I was, yeah, he did a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: fine job. Much better than Maxwell Caulfield. Although he did
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: play a dick pretty well.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: Once again, not sure that's acting.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: You know, again, I've mentioned this on other shows before,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where I want a
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: character in the movie, especially my protagonist, the guy that's
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: going to make it out, I want to like that person.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I want to identify with that person. I want something.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: They don't have to be a good person. They don't
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: have to be You know, they can be an asshole,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: but there's got to be something about them. There was
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: no humility to that character. There was no, you know,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: nothing that I could identify with. And the one that
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I honestly identified with was Lloyd more than any of them.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: He at least was a real person.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, he was a low end of the totem pole,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: low end of the gene pool. Yeah.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of like Biff.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't like Biff. He's an asshole, but...
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of guys out there just like Biff. Yeah,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: and you'll put up with him. And if Biff died,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: you know, you'd be pretty sad. Probably. For a little while.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Not sad, but.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Only now, because I'm attached to that character. Right. But
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: in the real world, he would be kind of a jackass. No,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the movie. In the movie, yeah,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Because when this guy is the sacrifice when he's killed off,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that was kind of like the one
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: guy I liked.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was pretty much it.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: You know, you're hoping for that twist of the dick
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: lead actor gets killed off, and the one actor that
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: you didn't like in the.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Beginning, but maybe... Has to save the day. Yeah, you know, maybe,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: you know... No. Unfortunately, no. They didn't give me that either.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: I don't like top billing guy getting out all the time.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: Sometimes they have to mix it up, Yeah, I mean,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: I guess with anything, even if you don't identify with
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: that specific character, in any scenario, they almost need to
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: give you a character that you can at least have
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: the perspective of, that gives you somebody that you're supposed
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: to see the story through their eyes, and it's like,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: I don't want to see it through any of these people,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: you know?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: There really isn't. I mean, the closest thing to a
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: likable character is Billy Dee. And by the end, he
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: becomes crazy too. So it's like you're left with nothing.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: And really, that's what it feels like. In the end,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: you're left with nothing. Just like, ugh. Yeah, it just becomes.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: Just kill him off and blow the ship up.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's hurry up and jettison your Lego ship out
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: into space so we can start the credits.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: It looked like, and this was before it, but it
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: looked like the.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Cardboard and plastic box that Buzz Lightyear comes in.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: In Toy Story.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: It really did.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 14: It's because he was out looking for the G sector.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: Do we want to go into the G sector?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Brian and I figured out during the G sector that
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: they're actually talking about the G spot.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: And you can play a.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: Drinking game to the anytime the G sector is mentioned.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: And it could be used for a euphemism for the G-spot,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: you drink. Once again.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: But you'd be drunk fast. It's that one little segment.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: It's like the number of times they say what they're saying,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: and then the fact that right at the beginning we
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: made that smart-ass comment... And I couldn't listen to anything
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: they said after that because it all becomes about that.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: The G sector is a myth. Well, we're going out
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: there in the middle of it to go searching for it.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: You'll never find it.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's like everything about it just became ten
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: times funnier than anything they actually put thought into.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Men get lost on the way to the G sector.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: It's just so much better.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to MST this bitch up.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: That was probably the most enjoyable moment of the evening.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: Kind of, yeah.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: It sort of was.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: So it was about a minute and a half's worth
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: of lines straight where every single one of them could
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: have been guys sitting around a poker table talking about.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: I can't find the G-spot. I can't find the G-spot.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, yep.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's the case with all these guys. Again,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: the 12-year-old boy.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: Yep, pretty much.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: It all comes back to that skunk-ass polecat.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: A skunk-ass polecat.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that once again is a line.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: The redundant.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, isn't that redundant? They didn't really
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: think that line through at all, did they? No, I
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: did want to mention one thing.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: The explosion that was a pretty good pyrotechnics explosion, but then... Well,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: that was at the gas station that exploded.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the 50s one?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: The 50s gas station. That was the best.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: There was a decent one earlier on. There was a
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: couple of decent explosions, especially for this budget. But the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: one in the 50s world, that was impressive.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: But then at the very end of it, there was
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: like this little... Fireworks. The little cones. It's like the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: cones firework that spark at the edge of it. It
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: emits shower of sparks. Is that what you're talking about?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: Light the volcano and step back because it will emit
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: a shower of sparks.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what that was. It can't have been any.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: I've seen those too many times because they shove a
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: hundred of those.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: In every case of fireworks that you buy.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: And that's what, I mean, it was like this great
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: pyrotechnics explosion, you know.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Even with a guy being hurled from it.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: That's one of the better stunts, dude. And then this little...
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: That one was still way better than the ones at
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: the prison escape.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: You could see the big flamethrower mounted onto the floor
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: as the fire would shoot up out of it.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this prison was equipped with flamethrowers? Yeah, on
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: the ceiling. That just shoot up into the air?
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was so bad you could even see
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: the pilot portion of the flamethrower before.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: It's got a little spark and now, ooh, that one's
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: going to go, that one's going to go.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: And because he's getting close to it. Right.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: But apparently new Alcatraz is... Space Sucker Jazz!
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: He's fitted with roofs that have flamethrowers. As all buildings
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: will have in the future.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: I feel for humility. You're right.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: You are a hard-working man, and this movie is so
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: beneath you, it's not even funny.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: You know what would have sold it if he would
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: have had a Lando cape?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: What's... Yeah.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: What I was going to say, what's funny is so
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: many of his movies, they steal that photo. Because one
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: of the other ones on his list, I actually have
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: a version of. And it's like a bad 70s exploitation
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: kind of movie. And it's just a picture of him
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 6: on the front from the movie. But on the back,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 6: it's him in the blue Lando game.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, that is not from this movie.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: You are cheating.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: You can see Lobot in the back. Lobot is not
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: in this movie. This $ 1.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: 50 DVD is not that Lobot.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: They should have just gone ahead and named that Android Lobot.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: That would have been awesome. They should have just followed
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: him around all the time. That's pretty much what he
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: did is follow him around all the time. He talked
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: about as much as Lobot.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: That's... Alien and Turner.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: It would be one of those late night, you know,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: what's this? Oh, fuck it, I'll watch it. It's got
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Billy Dee in it.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: And I would have, I mean, this is, yeah, I'm
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: sure I would have watched this on VHS at some
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: point back in the day. Somehow I missed it then. Really,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: that was even on the end of that. I mean,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: this feels like an 80s straight-through VHS movie. And, yeah,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: it still plays like that, only it was 93, which
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: kind of makes it a little more sad.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Could they have had it in the can and just
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: held on to it?
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's that bad. It is.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: There's so many issues with this movie. All right.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else that we can make fun of?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I want to say something good, but.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: There's not a lot, really.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: There's not a lot. I mean, I usually, more than
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: most people, try to find the best and even the
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: worst of movies, but.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, the Ariel character is just a waste.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about the actress. Yeah, she just.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: There is no.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 6: character to her right granted in initially she's a virtual
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: reality program but as it goes on she's not but
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: they never give her any real character there's no identity
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: to her right and she like even as a virtual
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: reality character has nothing but quippy one-liners to say and
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: everybody and it's just yeah she's just annoying that's what
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: she is.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah That's why they were all blowing that ship up.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: They were just enjoying it. They just want to get
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: away from her. I can't escape, so how about if
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: I die?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: Leave me alone.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Then, right?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: Another thing I groaned at is when Lloyd was talking
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: to DJ, and DJ was figuring out that it was
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: a virus on the ship, and Lloyd was concerned that
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: he was getting some kind of VD from his fantasy world. That, again,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: is something a high school kid would have come up with.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: But even a high school kid would know that when
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: you use a computer, you don't type the same two
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: keys over and over again.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: The DJ was doing his... He was like hitting the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: F and the L. Just over and over. And that
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: was him. That's how you break into a navigation system
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: that's got a virus.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: In new space, I guess.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: In new space.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: FL, FL, FL, FL.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: Well, the thing is, again, in complaining about the pacing,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: the last half of this movie is just people typing.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: You go through Billy Dee typing for a long time
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: and sitting in front of a screen and then... Once
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: he kind of takes a step out of the picture,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: DJ comes in and he sits in front of a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: screen and types for 10, 15 minutes. It's just, yeah.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: And even in the beginning, the captain of the Holly,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: is that what it was called?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 10: I guess.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: He's typing on a keyboard that is vertical.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 9: Vertical.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: He's typing against it, and it's new. And, you know,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: that probably was, you know, technology. Normally, you know, your
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: computer was connected like your Apple IIe, you know, where.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Like, it's all one machine. But this, it was actually separate,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: and you could mount it on the wall and type
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: on it. It was new and fancy.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 6: How amazing would that be if all of a sudden
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: you had the iPad II?
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: How big would that be?
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: Futuristic.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: What movie were we talking about last week? Oh, in
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: Red Riding Hood, we were talking about last week. They
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: had iPods, didn't they?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: Well, that's because Apple sponsored that movie.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: They were like, I don't care what you're set in.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: You're working in some product shops.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: She's like, isn't there a Wolf app on this somewhere?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Wolf Destroy. I had to pay $ 1. 99, but it was
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: worth it. Let's throw angry birds at the wolf.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, and while we're making fun of DJ, which, great,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: that was a minute or so ago, but I have
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: to call him out for, in his dream sequence, I mean,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: he's dorky enough in the real world, but when he
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: gets into his dream sequence... His hair suddenly looks like
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: vanilla ice.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: And he's riding around on a motorcycle, so suddenly I'm like,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: are we in Cool as Ice? Did I switch movies
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden? You know, it was. It was
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: cut up around.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: And then he, like, he made it higher and it
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: stuck kind of up in that. It was totally cool
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: as ice. He just didn't have that bitchin' motorcycle suit.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: He had, like, a Letterman jacket. He was still kind
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: of a dork, even in the 50s.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: And, you know, if it's your fantasy, don't get your
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: ass kicked.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: That was Tracy Scoggins' fault. Oh, that was Scoggins' fault.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: She messed it all up. That skank. I think we
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: should go out on that. Okay. Tracy Scoggins is a skank.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Tracy Scoggins, but she's a skank.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 6: I don't like her.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 6: I can't help it. There's just something about her that
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 6: just has always.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Brian groaned when her name came up. Because I hadn't
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: watched the trailer in a long time.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: I remembered then that I'd seen her in the trailer
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 6: and had that reaction then. But that was a long
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 6: time ago when I first watched the trailer.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I remembered and went, ugh.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: So, go check out Alien. Check it out. Go buy
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: yourself a copy. I don't know if it's in print.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: Let us know how you guys feel about it.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: You're right. If you're a Billy Dee completist. Yeah, this
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: is definitely the end of the list. Or a Maxwell
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: Caulfield completist.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: You're a glutton for punishment there.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 8: God.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: We will take a break and be back with the
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: rest of the show.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 19: It's hump day, boys. Hump diggity dog day. We are
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 19: sliding on down to the weekend. You boys keep learning
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 19: about that damn G-Sector, and old Mr. Pecker gonna pack
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 19: his bags and go on home.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: You're back. Sector's uncharted, Lloyd. There's some electromagnetic probes out there.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: Every one of them's come back blank. What are you saying?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: There's nothing there? According to our definition. But we're going
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: in there to rescue somebody.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: Great.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Right smack in the middle of it. Dead space, gentlemen.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Holy Jesus Christ.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 19: I can't believe I'm sitting here playing poker with a
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 19: bunch of Alice's.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: No one's ever made it out of there, man.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 16: There are two rules to remember if you want to
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 16: have a good time. Rule number one, never run out
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 16: of Colt.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: 45.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 16: Rule number two, never forget rule number one. You want
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 16: to know why you should keep plenty of Colt.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: 45 on hand?
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 16: You never know when friends might show up. I don't
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 16: claim you can have a better time with Colt.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: 45 than without it. But why take chances? The power
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: of Colt. 45. It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: answered in the movies.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 10: And now, on with the show.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: It takes a turn.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: Is that it?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: This one takes no turns. This one was swallowing downhill
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: right off the bat.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: I was going to go straight down a straight and
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: narrow towards suck.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: Oh, poor Billy.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: This one is just flounders. Yeah.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, if it maintained the consistent bad the entire time,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: that's fine, but it turned into like... It's fun bad.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: That's the thing. Those first 20 minutes are fun. I'm
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: just like, oh, this movie's awesome. It's so cheesy and
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 6: bad and ridiculous.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: The guy with the big gun and the escape from
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: the prison.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: By the time you get out of those hologram dream sequences,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: it's just.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: It's almost like they were born with it. Yeah. And
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: they just like, yeah, we just got to get through this.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: We just got to finish. Whatever. Fuck it. Just finish it.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: Everybody seems bored with it.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still talking about the movie. We can't get
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: away from it. So, all right, we're back. And we're back. Oh, okay, kids,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: get out your secret decoder pins.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: Set your pins to V2. Here is the message.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: It's me playing with my secret decoder pin.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 6: But you're not making the noise.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 6: This is the worst fanfare I've ever had.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 10: I know.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 6: It is time for Movie Meltdown's Secret Circle reveal of
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: the next who knows how many features given where we're
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 6: going next week. Next week we will be heading to
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 6: the much anticipated next Horror Hound.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Yay.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: Where I'm sure we will be pestering several celebrities and
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 6: probably running into other podcasters and listeners and it should
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: be interesting to No telling what will come of all this.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: Misty might get hauled to jail for trying to touch
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: Sean Patrick Flannery's face.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: Probably. She's already said she wants to.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know if she'll follow through on it.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 6: And Jay might already be there after, like, just asking
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: feldman a lot of crazy.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: Questions right from what i hear.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 6: He's pretty excited to see feldman i'm not even sure
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 6: why i don't know that he even likes feldman he
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: just gets excited and he's got the crazy fake feldman
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: sightings that have got him extra excited so.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: His girlfriend's got the other cory on her.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: Leg yeah and i've told her to go up and
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: taunt him with it so Some trouble will ensue, I
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: am sure.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Now, is this the event that Randy gets his mace?
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 6: See, now, I thought it would be fun if he
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: took it up there. Originally, I think Jay didn't think
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: about it, and he was just going to give it
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: to him there. But I'm assuming he's flying there.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Flying there, right.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 10: So, yeah.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: He can't take that. I don't think that's going to
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: go over so well with him. But he could let
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: him see the mace.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess he could show it and then bring
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 6: it back home. That seems like a tease, but we're
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: kind of sadistic.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: We might do that. Here's your mace. I wonder if
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: they'll let him bring it in the room.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: I see people bring a lot of fake weaponry. I
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: don't know if they'll realize that that one will actually
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: kill people.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: If he dresses up, he probably could save it.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if he goes as an ogre or something, they
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 6: won't even notice that he could actually annihilate half of
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: that person.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could wipe out some. I mean, it's an impressive.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Video of jay bashing in that.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: Coconut it's just yeah it like liquefied the thing it's
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 6: just yeah it's it's hardcore i.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Had to show that to my wife it was i
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: was so impressed by.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: It so oh so yeah that will be probably a
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 6: couple of episodes there i'm assuming we're gonna get a
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: good amount out of that hopefully so since we're making
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: the trip up there we're going to get something useful
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 6: out of it if i can help it so that
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 6: will be Coming at you the next couple of times.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: We're still deciding.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: If nothing else, I'm assuming at least we know we
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: want to hopefully work in, as far as movie discussions,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 6: we all want to see Sucker Punch. Desperately. Some of
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 6: us even have special crushes on the lead.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Not even the guys. Right.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 6: Last week, a certain.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Female cast member said she has a girl crush on
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: our female lead of this movie. You know, it's hard
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: not to have a crush.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 10: Kind of, yeah.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, I assumed that you and I would probably,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 6: but even hearing her, I was like, well, yeah, I
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 6: can see that too. You can't fight it. She's just
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 6: that damn cute.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: And she's cute, and like we talked about, there's something
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: odd about her as well.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and she's not like obnoxious cute. She's not like...
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 6: overtly cutesy she's also like cute and I'm gonna kick
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 6: your ass at any given moment so I mean it
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: all sort of works in a perfect way to make
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 6: you like this girl so yeah we're hoping that comes
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 6: out next weekend as well so we're gonna try to
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 6: work in a viewing of that if we can squeeze
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: it in there somewhere between heading up there and coming
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: back and Misty not killing people for seeing them for
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: two days in a row so we'll see if we
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 6: can get all this worked out I make no guarantees laughing.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: So with that, we will.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 6: Once again remind you, last week we kicked off our
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 6: deal with Tweaked Audio. So, once again, we set you
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: guys up. We're giving you the deal. Go to tweakedaudio.com
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: and use the discount code MELTDOWN and get 33% off
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: and free shipping.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: Tweaked Audio.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: Anything else to pass along?
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: Me either.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: I'm worn out by this movie.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: And it's late.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: It sucked the life out of me.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 9: So.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: Other ways that.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 10: does it.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: Thanks for listening.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was pretty shitty. It really was.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 6: It really was.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 7: Something about Opening the windows and doors I know How.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 13: To move quietly Creep across creaky wooden floors I know
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 13: Where to find precious things In all your carpets and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 13: drawers Slipping the clippers.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: Slipping the clippers.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 8: Through the talisman wires.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: The sense of isolation In spite, in spite, in spite.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 9: Hey!
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: Hey!
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: Hey!
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: You know I am.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 5: Here I like you.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 13: Lying awake Your bated breath charging.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: The air I like.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 7: The touch and the smell Of all the pretty dresses.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: You wear.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: Intruder's happy in the dark Intruder come Intruder come and
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: leave Leave this mark Leave this mark Leave this mark.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: Ho!
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: Ho!
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: Ho!
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 9: Ho!
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: This show is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: edited by Brian Renfro, with opening music performed by The Empires.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: To help support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com for
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: ways that you can contribute or advertise with us.