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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Drive Time Sex text Day. Actually, Jaguars Time starts right
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Speaker 1: now when we line up and play. I'm not worried
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Speaker 1: about two years from now. These players deserve are very bad.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go win this game. If we don't, guess
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Speaker 1: what we're gonna try to do the next game, win
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Speaker 1: that game, you will never I don't want people to
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Speaker 1: think like that around here. I don't want to hear Hey,
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Speaker 1: we'll be fine in two years, you know so, man,
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Speaker 1: these players don't have two years. And this is a
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Speaker 1: players organization. This is a player's game. Our players deserve
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Speaker 1: from our owner, from me, from everybody. We're going to
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Speaker 1: try to win this one game we're playing, and then
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Speaker 1: if we do and we're fortunate enough to win one,
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Speaker 1: we're going to try to win the next one. Ready
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Speaker 1: to work to win right now. This season not a
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Speaker 1: lot of patients from head coach Urban Meyer, but that's
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Speaker 1: exactly what you want from a football coach. He was
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Speaker 1: on the Peter King Podcast. Go ahead and check it
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Speaker 1: out if you haven't seen. It's about a thirty minute
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Speaker 1: long interview and very beneficial to watch. Welcome in Jaguar
1:00
Speaker 1: Drive Time on a Tuesday morning, Ashlyn Sullivan Brian Sexton
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Speaker 1: and John Osier here with you are last week before
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Speaker 1: the players we think enter the building next Tuesday. That's
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Speaker 1: the big thing is it could get pushed back, But
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Speaker 1: as of now it's looking good. Well I think we
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Speaker 1: will know in the next day or two, right, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the owners are meeting virtually and the union has been
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Speaker 1: talking about different um uh, demands might not be the
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Speaker 1: right word, but criteria it's yeah, ultimately it is. It's
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Speaker 1: here's what we want if we're going to come back
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Speaker 1: and do this. So there are there are things happening,
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Speaker 1: and it would be nice to know that. That's got
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Speaker 1: to be very difficult for this coach who's just coming
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Speaker 1: in here and as he mentioned, hasn't really even had
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Speaker 1: much of a chance to connect with these players, right John.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing for me, is he hasn't
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Speaker 1: met a lot of these guys. There's maybe ten to
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Speaker 1: fifteen players right now in the building, but a bunch
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Speaker 1: of this team he hasn't met yet. It's it's hard
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Speaker 1: to think come next week he might still not meet
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Speaker 1: this team. Look I say this, Uh, I don't know
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Speaker 1: much about urban Meyer yet. I've talked to him a
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Speaker 1: couple of times in person, maybe once. But if everything
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Speaker 1: I know and I've heard him talk about this has
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Speaker 1: to be brutal on him because he's mentioned it several times,
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Speaker 1: he mentioned it in podcasts before. The idea of not
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Speaker 1: being able to get to know these guys January February,
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Speaker 1: whatever he said about free agency that everybody's talked about,
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Speaker 1: this is what has to bother him because at his core,
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Speaker 1: I believe, is that element of player trust coach player
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Speaker 1: trust relationship. Not being able to get started with that. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it doesn't affect every coach.
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Speaker 1: Every coach wants that. It sure feels like that is
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Speaker 1: a core value of his that it's frustrating not to
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Speaker 1: be able to start with. Well, if you can't start
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Speaker 1: it next week, you know, Schlann, you can be around
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Speaker 1: him for a while because I wouldn't want to be.
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna be in a good mood over that, look,
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Speaker 1: and it's not We thought we had clarity coming because
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Speaker 1: so many people are getting back neated. Now. I know
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Speaker 1: this week people who are forty plus can get the vaccine,
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Speaker 1: and I think next week Lynn, you would qualify to
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Speaker 1: get the vaccine. Um But yeah. Yeah, the President, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, pleading with people to continue to wear masks,
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Speaker 1: and states that have lifted mask mandates to put them
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Speaker 1: back on. I mean, the clarity that we all think
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Speaker 1: that we're getting, and maybe it's because we live in Florida, Um,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden seems confused. And now the Players
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Speaker 1: Association is saying, hey, look, this is still an issue.
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know how you get that solved
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Speaker 1: today or tomorrow. There's still a lot of conversation that
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Speaker 1: there's just a lot of caution that's still there. And
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Speaker 1: I I think I'd be surprised if the players are
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Speaker 1: all here next week. Yeah, you gotta come to a
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Speaker 1: solution a week away. But someone's got to make up
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Speaker 1: their minds. Well, I mean eventually. Look like they proved
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Speaker 1: last year, I believe. My belief is they proved on
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Speaker 1: the field, and I think that I think the NFL
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Speaker 1: even said this, Uh, Doctor Stills said that they proved
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Speaker 1: that the game wasn't transmitted on the actice are on
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Speaker 1: the game field right during the game. They weren't giving
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Speaker 1: it to each other, Otherwise it would have been a
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Speaker 1: whole lot more positive tests. What they found were is
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Speaker 1: that in some meeting situations right where guys were in
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Speaker 1: the weight room together in meeting rooms there, it was passed.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the norms that we thought when we
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Speaker 1: went into the season turned out to be a little
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Speaker 1: bit different. That's I think what the league is arguing is, hey, look,
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Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of guys testing positive on
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Speaker 1: Monday after playing. Why can't we get guys together to practice.
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Speaker 1: And it's conversations like that that have to take place
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Speaker 1: before we can finally get these guys on the field. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's true. I remember when this first all started. I
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Speaker 1: mean we're saying, oh, offensive line, defensive line, no way,
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Speaker 1: no way, they can play like that. They're in each
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Speaker 1: other's faces and it wasn't a problem during problem at
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Speaker 1: least during the game, and they have to go back
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Speaker 1: in research. But I believe Alan Sill said that in February, well,
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Speaker 1: we will see lots of decisions to come, and that
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Speaker 1: brings us two big things. Big thing ones takeaway from
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Speaker 1: the NFL Virtual Owners meetings taking place. There are a
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Speaker 1: lot of things they need to cover up officially making
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Speaker 1: it a seventeen game season, reviewing roughing the past, sir,
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Speaker 1: if it's past those penalties will become reviewable over time.
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Speaker 1: It changes. Bring back sudden death. That's fun. Big thing
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Speaker 1: one take away some virtual owners meanings. We'll see what
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Speaker 1: comes from that big thing too. Is this guy, Trevor
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Speaker 1: You're going to be shocked by this. But that Peter
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Speaker 1: King podcast we just mentioned, Urban Meyer may have hinted
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Speaker 1: he's getting a little closer to take Trevor Lawrence number one.
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Speaker 1: Let's listen, is there any real mystery that you're picking
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Uh, I'd have to say that's the direction
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Speaker 1: we're going, and uh, I'll leave that up to the
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Speaker 1: owner when we make that decision official. But I'm certainly
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Speaker 1: not stepping out of line that that's certainly the direction
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Speaker 1: we're headed. I like the subtle uh Like, let me
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Speaker 1: think about this before I say it's in Big Thing three,
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Speaker 1: virtual or real question mark. There you see it. They're
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Speaker 1: on the yield, they're sweat and they're working. Will this
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Speaker 1: happen this offseason? Will these players be in the building
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Speaker 1: or will they be on team's calls. That's something we're
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Speaker 1: going to figure out this week. And like John and
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Speaker 1: Brian said at the beginning of the show, Peter King
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Speaker 1: was on ten ten Excel yesterday and he said the
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Speaker 1: same thing. I would be shocked if there are players
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Speaker 1: in the building next Tuesday. When is when this is
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Speaker 1: supposed to happen, you know, And it hurts John. If
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Speaker 1: you're a a young player who is trying to improve
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Speaker 1: and ascend and get better, you can only do so
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Speaker 1: much virtually. I mean, at some point you have to
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Speaker 1: have your hand on the ground and you have to
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Speaker 1: be working towards it. And I know football didn't always
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Speaker 1: have an off season program, but I'm not talking about,
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Speaker 1: you know, the veterans being in shape and being ready
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Speaker 1: to play and learning the system. I'm talking about some
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Speaker 1: of these guys who are fighting for jobs and and
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Speaker 1: that's an interesting position to be in because you know,
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Speaker 1: they want to be in the building. They want the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to these coaches and to get ahead
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Speaker 1: up or at least a leg up on the new system,
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Speaker 1: the new coaches, the new expectations, so that they give
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Speaker 1: themselves a slightly better chance of making the team. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're obviously layers all over the place on who needs
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Speaker 1: to be in who doesn't, because every player by nature
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Speaker 1: is different generally speaking, you know, Schlann Bryant. You guys
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Speaker 1: have heard me a million times walk up to you
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Speaker 1: on a practice field in June playing what are we
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Speaker 1: doing here? Because because for veterans, I don't believe veterans
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Speaker 1: with a returning coach, I don't believe O T A
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Speaker 1: s are that important. I think it's overblowned. But this
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Speaker 1: is not a team with veterans, and it's not a
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Speaker 1: returning coach. For returning coaches mean uh for new coaches, coordinators,
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Speaker 1: for young players, and it's becoming more of a young
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Speaker 1: players league because the salary cap means you don't have
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Speaker 1: Roger's made up of older players. But for teams with
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Speaker 1: younger players and especially with with newer coaches, absolutely this
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Speaker 1: period is important because this is when you teach. Look
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Speaker 1: at Caleb and Chasin last year. Do you think he
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been better with eight weeks of honing skill set?
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Speaker 1: One final thing I know going for for a while,
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Speaker 1: the question you have to ask yourself if coaches are
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Speaker 1: charged with improving players, if that's their job, which I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure it's it's that possible sometimes, but everybody says
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Speaker 1: coaches need to improve players. If you don't have O
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Speaker 1: T A S then all they get is maybe two
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Speaker 1: and a half weeks of training camp, because once the
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Speaker 1: season starts, you're talking game planning. So don't blame the coaches.
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Speaker 1: If players don't improve, if players can't be on the
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Speaker 1: field for these two months, I'm done. That's over it.
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Speaker 1: It is a very good point, John. You have to think,
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Speaker 1: come week three of the season, it's a Wednesdays, something's
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Speaker 1: wrong with the technique. You don't have time to fix it.
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Speaker 1: You're prepping at that point. It's to like, you know,
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Speaker 1: the NFL did a really good job. I think everybody
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Speaker 1: would agree at getting the entire season in all two
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Speaker 1: and sixty nine games. They had some outbreaks or Baltimore, Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: You know everyone knows those that those were the places.
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Speaker 1: But for the most part, they got it done. But
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Speaker 1: I think if you went and talked to coaches, they
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Speaker 1: would tell you that it wasn't as good not getting
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Speaker 1: the games in, but the game itself could have been better, right,
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Speaker 1: and improving young players makes it better. Last year they
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Speaker 1: had the ability with the expanded rosters and practice squads
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Speaker 1: and injured reserve to bring players on and off and
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Speaker 1: kind of keep that going. That made a little bit
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Speaker 1: easier to kind of polish it up. But the game
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Speaker 1: itself is better when these guys have opportunities to improve. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I am curious that practice squad rule. I think
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Speaker 1: it worked out really well last season. I'm curious if
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Speaker 1: maybe they keep that that designating one player, keeping it
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Speaker 1: to your own team. John, What do you think I
9:51
Speaker 1: could see that maybe existing, even maybe without a COVID world. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I can't remember every detail of every rule
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Speaker 1: last year in terms of player machination, if you will.
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Speaker 1: But for the most part, I think they need to
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Speaker 1: gear closer to what that was than the past. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think they need more, they need more flexibility. I
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Speaker 1: sort of get why you can't have that sort of
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Speaker 1: constant I are constant, being able to pull up everybody
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Speaker 1: all the time, if you will. But I think they
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Speaker 1: need to get closer to what they had. It's a violent,
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Speaker 1: dangerous game, and I think you need to let teams
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Speaker 1: put the best players on the field that they can.
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Speaker 1: The opposite that is, you do have to have a
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Speaker 1: system that prevents abuse of i R, which is why
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Speaker 1: it was so restrictive before. But I think you can
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Speaker 1: get closer to it without having abuse. You can remember too,
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Speaker 1: that money has always played a huge part in roster size,
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Speaker 1: right the the owners don't want to have unlimited rosters
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Speaker 1: where you're paying a minimum salary of a half a
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Speaker 1: million dollars. At some point it becomes sessive they have
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Speaker 1: huge rosters and ownership doesn't want to. However, they just
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Speaker 1: signed a hundred billion dollar contract or billion dollar contract,
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Speaker 1: let me say that again. They're discussing it today because
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to prove it in the meetings
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Speaker 1: next two days. That's a lot of money. So if
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Speaker 1: you wanted to get closer to it, right, the Players
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Speaker 1: Association is going to encourage you to get closer to it.
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Speaker 1: It's a negotiating point. To get closer. Maybe you say, hey,
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Speaker 1: look we'll do this practice squad thing, but we want
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Speaker 1: in person meetings. You know, we want in person O
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Speaker 1: T A. S. Becomes a negotiating point. Oh yes, lots
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Speaker 1: to discuss in these virtual owners meetings, and we are
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Speaker 1: awaiting results, So stay with us and we will update
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Speaker 1: next week if we have results and we come back.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars spending money to make the team better. Now
13:54
Speaker 1: with Urban Meyer, there is the coach and Trent Balky
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Speaker 1: is the GM. They're making a ton of moves. This
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Speaker 1: is the play to be um you can feel it.
14:01
Speaker 1: You can feel the energy here. I use fans. It's
14:04
Speaker 1: like really motivation to give us the fuel to give
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Speaker 1: us to drive. I know they miss it, um Man,
14:09
Speaker 1: we miss it. It was so much different last year
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Speaker 1: without the fans. I don't like playing the games than
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Speaker 1: there are no fans. You know, it's gonna be a
14:17
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of dove all chance with number
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14:21
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Speaker 1: A cool video good, Yeah, they're a very good job.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars production is getting us excited for free agency. And
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Speaker 1: speaking of free agency, one guy you saw in that
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Speaker 1: video was Marvin Jones. And we keep calling him the
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Speaker 1: leader of the wide receiver's room, and that's kind of
15:16
Speaker 1: hard to do because we haven't seen him do anything
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Speaker 1: on the field here in Jacksonville. But when you take
15:21
Speaker 1: a look at this, you'll see why we say that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's easy when you have playmakers
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Speaker 1: like them, Um, and I just just spoke to them. Um. Obviously,
15:33
Speaker 1: I've I've seen them play and I've I've watched videos
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Speaker 1: of them in their film. Um, and it's something that
15:39
Speaker 1: I think that we could be, you know, one of
15:40
Speaker 1: the most dynamic in the league. Um. So I'm excited, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, to be in this group. I'm excited to
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Speaker 1: lead this group and I'm excited to make all the plays.
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Speaker 1: It was Marvin Jones on d J. Chark LEVISCA Channel,
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Speaker 1: Colin Johnson and john this was something cool. Marvin Jones
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Speaker 1: mentioned when the Ban's played the Jaguars. He really talked
16:02
Speaker 1: about how much d J. Chark stood out in the
16:05
Speaker 1: excitement to play with this guy. With him on the
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Speaker 1: field along with Jamal Agney, you all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about this wide receiver room. Well, Marvin
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Speaker 1: Jones is a big time playmaker. His stats haven't been yards,
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Speaker 1: but his stats where the Jaguars need it. They need
16:24
Speaker 1: guys who score touchdowns. They've been off the charts again,
16:29
Speaker 1: Schlenn you've had a chance to talk to these free
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Speaker 1: agents face to face. I haven't yet, But on the surface,
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones has a Kalis feel. I'm not gonna put
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Speaker 1: that kind of pressure on it because I'm not sure
16:41
Speaker 1: that team will ever have a free agent like Klais Campbell,
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Speaker 1: but there's a maturity about the way he speaks, and
16:48
Speaker 1: there's a perspective on the NFL about the way he speaks.
16:52
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Klaus Uh if he's a thimble
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Speaker 1: of that. Obviously it works, But I'm wondering if you
16:58
Speaker 1: caught the same kind of vibe from Marvin J. Schlen. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: he came in knowing exactly what he wanted to get
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Speaker 1: out of this wide receiver room. And Brian Frankly this
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Speaker 1: this was a void. I mean, you had Chris Connelly,
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Speaker 1: but not to this extent of that veteran presence. D J.
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Speaker 1: Chark mentioned I can go back to being a twenty
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Speaker 1: five year old. I'm gonna tell you who he is.
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Speaker 1: Uh and John will not his head and agree with this.
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Speaker 1: This is Keenan McCardell. When McCardell came in ninety six,
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Speaker 1: there were a few young receivers. Jimmy Smith had had
17:26
Speaker 1: one big game. Uh, Willie Jackson was a role player,
17:32
Speaker 1: and Keenan came in and everybody kind of found their role.
17:35
Speaker 1: He had been with Andre Risen, who was here for
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Speaker 1: part of ninety six. UM. He had been around the
17:40
Speaker 1: league with Chicago and Cleveland and h Washington, and he
17:44
Speaker 1: saw a young, talented room that didn't quite know how
17:48
Speaker 1: to play the NFL way, and he taught them how
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Speaker 1: to do it. So as I look and listen and
17:53
Speaker 1: watch Marvin Jones um and I'm not comparing their playing
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Speaker 1: style as much, but the impact I think that he's
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Speaker 1: going to have listening to him talk is that of
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Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell, who brought it all together with Mark Brunell
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Speaker 1: and Jimmy Smith and Willie Jackson in great comparisons. Overall,
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Speaker 1: this group is just a lot of good guys. You
18:13
Speaker 1: just got good vibes talking to every single one of
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Speaker 1: them and didn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to have good guys. No,
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Speaker 1: it's not not a bad thing in the building. And
18:19
Speaker 1: another one is Roy Robertson Harris, who was one of
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Speaker 1: the first in the building on free agency day, but
18:26
Speaker 1: one of the last to sign his contract. And the
18:28
Speaker 1: reason was that he wanted his family present when he
18:32
Speaker 1: signed this big contract and they flew in separately and
18:34
Speaker 1: he was going to wait until his wife and two
18:37
Speaker 1: kids were here. So take a look at this, you say,
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Speaker 1: it's all good. We'll get it on game day we'll
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Speaker 1: get it on Sunday. So that is his son, Jack's
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Speaker 1: that you saw in frame. He has another older son
18:57
Speaker 1: that that was standing. But yeah, what coincidence that Jack
19:01
Speaker 1: is his name. They said it was meant to be
19:03
Speaker 1: there in Jacksonville. I bet, I bet the kid heard
19:08
Speaker 1: it and he is now saying it at nauseum around
19:11
Speaker 1: the house, driving his mom crazy. Because that's what little
19:13
Speaker 1: kids do, right, When you want them to say it,
19:16
Speaker 1: they won't, But when you don't want them to say it,
19:19
Speaker 1: they won't stop. Yeah, John, it was his moment to
19:21
Speaker 1: shine and he choked up a little bit. But yeah,
19:24
Speaker 1: we have a feeling that the Roy Robertson Harris house
19:26
Speaker 1: is a bit loud these days. Brian. That's what younger
19:31
Speaker 1: kids do. You know what older kids do. They take
19:32
Speaker 1: your money, that's what they do. I have a couple
19:34
Speaker 1: I know absolutely. Roy Robertson Harrison is an exciting guy.
19:41
Speaker 1: For this reason. Um, I get that maybe a lot
19:46
Speaker 1: of Jaguars fans looked at the entire free agent class
19:50
Speaker 1: and wondered, well, they didn't go after the top guy.
19:52
Speaker 1: They didn't go up to the big name. A lot
19:54
Speaker 1: of times, the best free agent classes are the ones
19:58
Speaker 1: that have guys who were still ascending. We're about to
20:01
Speaker 1: reach it. Roy Robertson, Harrison Harris, I'm sorry. Strikes you
20:06
Speaker 1: as a guy he's gotten better and better and better.
20:09
Speaker 1: He looks like he's a guy who hasn't even scratched
20:12
Speaker 1: the surface yet. They may be getting the perfect age
20:16
Speaker 1: of free agent, the perfect level of his career. He
20:20
Speaker 1: might be a guy you look back on out of
20:22
Speaker 1: this class and say, you know what, he makes the
20:25
Speaker 1: class much better than maybe the national analysts originally thought
20:30
Speaker 1: sending player at a good value. That's I mean, he
20:34
Speaker 1: looks the part. Sure looks the part. Alarmingly large dude
20:38
Speaker 1: walking into a room. It's not a game for small guys. No,
20:42
Speaker 1: he's huge, all right? Well, and with this one, ray
20:44
Speaker 1: Sean Jenkins paved his way on special teams and made
20:49
Speaker 1: an impact in l A as a safety. And this
20:52
Speaker 1: is really his big his first big time contract. And
20:55
Speaker 1: I asked him about the money and he was pretty
20:57
Speaker 1: honest about it and I appreciated it. Anytime you can
21:01
Speaker 1: get someone to believe in you, man, you know, it's
21:04
Speaker 1: what you work for. Um. You want people believe in you.
21:07
Speaker 1: You want people to to trust you, to come in
21:09
Speaker 1: just like you said earlier. UM, be the guy that
21:13
Speaker 1: that the your name is called. Hey, we're looking at
21:15
Speaker 1: you to make this play. Um, that's what we bought
21:17
Speaker 1: you and for. And UM, I just love that about
21:21
Speaker 1: you know how the Jags brought me in and he's
21:23
Speaker 1: featuring me right now, So that's pretty cool. I thought
21:26
Speaker 1: of you, Brian, like he just signed a big contract
21:28
Speaker 1: for a lot of money, and I'm gonna ask him
21:30
Speaker 1: about it, because this is what it's all about, look
21:32
Speaker 1: it And that was his best answer. And and it's
21:35
Speaker 1: a dangerous game and you can get hurt, right, and
21:38
Speaker 1: so you play for the money. And I like this guy. UM.
21:43
Speaker 1: I like the way that he stood at the podium
21:45
Speaker 1: and conducted himself. UM. I can't tell you that I
21:48
Speaker 1: have studied his game enough, but I like his size,
21:51
Speaker 1: his measurables. I like the fact that he and Shaquille
21:54
Speaker 1: Griffin are two guys who know each other. Um. And
21:57
Speaker 1: it seems like he's motivated John by the fact that
22:00
Speaker 1: I Warays picked him. You know, they didn't go after
22:01
Speaker 1: Anthony Harris, who was probably the biggest name safety on
22:05
Speaker 1: the board in free agency from the Minnesota Vikings. Um,
22:09
Speaker 1: they went and found a guy that fit their system,
22:12
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, urban Meyer talks about having learned
22:16
Speaker 1: a lot in his visits with Bill Belichick. This is
22:19
Speaker 1: a BELICHICKI and sort of move to go and grab
22:22
Speaker 1: a guy that fits what you do, no matter whether
22:24
Speaker 1: anyone knows his name or not. Well, maybe it's the
22:28
Speaker 1: contrarian in me. I'm a little bit contrary slant. If
22:31
Speaker 1: you knew that or not. Yes, i'mwhere I like when
22:34
Speaker 1: teams have money to go spend and then spend sort
22:39
Speaker 1: of away from what everybody thinks they should. I guess
22:42
Speaker 1: I instinctively like that because it tells me they're sticking
22:45
Speaker 1: to their plan and they're not doing it based on
22:47
Speaker 1: what other people think. Rashon Jenkis was not necessarily the
22:51
Speaker 1: guy that everybody wanted in free agency. They clearly have
22:54
Speaker 1: a role for him. Uh you know, I think that's
22:56
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you go get it. Safety is
22:59
Speaker 1: a lot of time, is the big games, Brian. I
23:02
Speaker 1: remember this, carn l a huge name, but he was
23:05
Speaker 1: at the end of his career. It wasn't the right
23:07
Speaker 1: time to have carn L a Rayshon Jenkins, much like
23:10
Speaker 1: uh Robertson Harris ascending player. Uh fits where they won
23:16
Speaker 1: in terms of value. Yeah to me they I don't
23:21
Speaker 1: like you who were at home run in free agency.
23:24
Speaker 1: But it feels like they hit or potentially hit a
23:29
Speaker 1: high percentage of what they want. And he fits that.
23:32
Speaker 1: And guess what, he's already a winner. That's a fabulous
23:36
Speaker 1: head of hair. He's got going fabulous. He's already won.
23:40
Speaker 1: Now he's got the money. Oh to be him, Brian.
23:44
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that the locker room will be open this
23:45
Speaker 1: year so we can get to know some of these guys,
23:47
Speaker 1: because again, I really enjoyed listening to him both right
23:51
Speaker 1: there and at his press conference. He seems like the
23:53
Speaker 1: kind of person that I'd really like to talk to
23:55
Speaker 1: about football. He loves the game. You know, you mentioned
23:58
Speaker 1: Corn Lake who played teen games in the Jaguars uniform.
24:01
Speaker 1: He had a broken bone in his foot and made
24:03
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars. And now nowadays that doesn't seem like
24:06
Speaker 1: a lot of money, um, but twelve but for football players.
24:10
Speaker 1: But twenty years ago that was an obscene amount of
24:13
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24:17
Speaker 1: rusher from the Eagles who came here in two thousand
24:19
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24:24
Speaker 1: who didn't really ever pop on the field. So the
24:29
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24:32
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24:36
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24:39
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24:43
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24:46
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24:48
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24:51
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24:53
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24:56
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24:59
Speaker 1: see some of these moves. Um. Their free agency strategy
25:04
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25:08
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25:11
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25:14
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25:16
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25:23
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25:26
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25:31
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Speaker 1: So now we're gonna catch up with the left tackle
27:45
Speaker 1: who just signed his franchise tag and he's ready for
27:49
Speaker 1: a fresh start in more ways than one. Cam's a
27:55
Speaker 1: good young football player twenty six years old. A lot
27:58
Speaker 1: of respect for him and where he can get to
28:01
Speaker 1: as a player. So it was just that it's hard
28:03
Speaker 1: to find left tackles in the National Football League. Catching
28:08
Speaker 1: up with left tackle Cam Robinson and Cam a the
28:12
Speaker 1: start of this offseason, there were some questions in the air.
28:15
Speaker 1: You didn't know where you were going to end up.
28:17
Speaker 1: But now you have the security, the financial security and
28:20
Speaker 1: knowing that you will be in Jacksonville this upcoming year,
28:24
Speaker 1: are you able to take a breath in, some pressure
28:26
Speaker 1: off your shoulders. Um, definitely, it's definitely good to you know,
28:32
Speaker 1: UM just kind of had that part of it figured out. Um,
28:35
Speaker 1: you know, it's starting to not really stressful, but I
28:38
Speaker 1: mean it's it's obviously on your mind, and i'm's kind
28:40
Speaker 1: of good to just you know, kind of put that
28:42
Speaker 1: behind me and um look forward to, you know, start
28:44
Speaker 1: to look forward to what we're gonna be able to
28:46
Speaker 1: do next year. Very nice. Okay, So I don't know
28:49
Speaker 1: how many interactions you've had with new head coach Urban Meyer,
28:52
Speaker 1: but the vibe I've gotten he's not one to overly
28:56
Speaker 1: hype up a player. But he did compliment you last week.
29:00
Speaker 1: Can say that he thinks you're ceiling is really high.
29:03
Speaker 1: And he said the expectations between you and him are
29:06
Speaker 1: very clear. So what are those expectations and how those
29:10
Speaker 1: combos done? Um, the compos went really well. Um. I
29:13
Speaker 1: think I met Erman honestly when I was in college
29:17
Speaker 1: because he was still coaching at our state when I
29:19
Speaker 1: was in school, So I met him a while ago
29:21
Speaker 1: back then, and um, I was able to you know,
29:23
Speaker 1: meet him again. Um, when he when he first got
29:25
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. You know, we're able to talk um on
29:28
Speaker 1: the phone and lot, and then we were able to
29:29
Speaker 1: sit down and you know, have have a have a
29:32
Speaker 1: couple of in person meetings, and he was just you know,
29:34
Speaker 1: his expectation level for me is high. You know what
29:36
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He thinks that. Um, I think everyone in
29:39
Speaker 1: the building, they know they know what where my potential
29:42
Speaker 1: level is and how how my ceiling is and Um,
29:44
Speaker 1: how good I can be just long as just keep
29:46
Speaker 1: getting better every year, and I just keep getting better
29:48
Speaker 1: every day, you know, just one percent better every day.
29:50
Speaker 1: And the same way they have highest spectations for me,
29:53
Speaker 1: I have highest spectations for myself. So I'm just looking
29:56
Speaker 1: forward to you know, like new beginnings and just you know,
29:59
Speaker 1: almost like not really a fresh start, but a fresh
30:01
Speaker 1: starter what they called it, we blunk it, whatever they
30:11
Speaker 1: call we blunk. You have your coach back, George Warhop,
30:14
Speaker 1: You have all the starting offensive lineman back. You have
30:17
Speaker 1: Tyler Shotley resigning, and I'm sure especially with offensive line,
30:21
Speaker 1: how important is that that this group is staying the
30:24
Speaker 1: state the same You guys can trust each other. Um,
30:29
Speaker 1: that's that's I can't even put words. I can't even
30:31
Speaker 1: put it in the word. It's just the offensive line. Um.
30:33
Speaker 1: Cohesiveness and togetherness is literally everything. Um, all five of
30:40
Speaker 1: us have to be on the same page at all times.
30:42
Speaker 1: If one person is off, it conrect the whole play. So, um,
30:46
Speaker 1: I think just for us keeping it, being able to
30:49
Speaker 1: keep the room together with our head coach and with
30:51
Speaker 1: all our pieces. Um, we know, we know we got
30:54
Speaker 1: in our offensive line room. So I mean I think
30:56
Speaker 1: the talk never really kind of phases us because we
30:59
Speaker 1: know saying, we know what we have and we know
31:01
Speaker 1: what type of talent we have in there. Um, now
31:04
Speaker 1: we're just looking forward to you know what I'm saying,
31:05
Speaker 1: I'm just like I said, like a fresh start and
31:07
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, trying to establish trying to
31:09
Speaker 1: establish our identity and trying to establish what we're trying
31:11
Speaker 1: to get done. And that fresh start. I don't know
31:14
Speaker 1: if you can feeling in Dallas, but in Jacksonville there
31:18
Speaker 1: is this sense of optimism. The number one overall pick
31:22
Speaker 1: eleven draft picks, and you're not really the type of
31:25
Speaker 1: guy I'm getting the feeling that's raw, raw, you know,
31:27
Speaker 1: jumping on the table excited. But are you optimistic? Are
31:30
Speaker 1: you looking forward to this year? Oh? Yeah, of course
31:35
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic. That's just my personality. I'm late back. I
31:38
Speaker 1: don't kind of reserve until myself a little bit. So, um,
31:41
Speaker 1: that's just me as a person. But of course it's
31:43
Speaker 1: always exciting when you can you know what I'm saying,
31:45
Speaker 1: we do have the first pick, and we are well,
31:47
Speaker 1: I guess I can't really say, um, you know, we
31:49
Speaker 1: do have the first pick something, so we're gonna so
31:55
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking forward to that. And um, whoever
31:58
Speaker 1: we pick with the first, I get it. I get
32:05
Speaker 1: where you're going. Next question, well, Cam, thank you so
32:11
Speaker 1: much for joining us and taking the time. I know
32:13
Speaker 1: you are busy, so we appreciate it and we'll see
32:15
Speaker 1: you here in Jacksonville soon. I appreciate it. Ash. That
32:23
Speaker 1: makes me loud every time I watch it. The end
32:26
Speaker 1: of that, just not hold him back. There's no point, right,
32:30
Speaker 1: but again at the NFL wants a little bit of
32:32
Speaker 1: drama and the Jaguars are trying to give the little
32:34
Speaker 1: bit of drama on it. Um, But you can tell
32:37
Speaker 1: it's cool that they're excited about a rookie. It is right.
32:40
Speaker 1: Most veterans, if you talk about draft picks, they don't
32:42
Speaker 1: ever want to talk about it because what do they care?
32:44
Speaker 1: Right the rookies. I'm in the locker room. Um, these
32:47
Speaker 1: guys understand the value of a quarterback, and this one
32:50
Speaker 1: in particular. So I'll say this about Cam uber talented.
32:54
Speaker 1: Look how big he is. Alright, he's got all the
32:56
Speaker 1: skills with with for me I to know that he
33:00
Speaker 1: wants to be eighteen million dollar left tackle. That's that
33:05
Speaker 1: was the question. That was what I was told about
33:08
Speaker 1: him was did he want it bad enough to work
33:11
Speaker 1: hard enough to overcome the injuries and to play at
33:14
Speaker 1: a high level. Um, let's see if the money motivates him,
33:17
Speaker 1: it would motivate me same. He is in Dallas right
33:21
Speaker 1: now training, that is where his trainer is, and he
33:23
Speaker 1: spent most of the off season there. So, John, this
33:26
Speaker 1: is a big year for him, and I liked how
33:28
Speaker 1: he said that. The expectations were very clear of what
33:31
Speaker 1: he needs to accomplish for himself and for this team.
33:36
Speaker 1: It was a huge year obviously because until he signs
33:39
Speaker 1: a long term deal, he's still playing for a long
33:41
Speaker 1: term deal, and Urban talked about the possibility of that,
33:44
Speaker 1: but until it happens, it hasn't happened. So uh. I
33:47
Speaker 1: personally think the the critics of Cam Robinson have have
33:53
Speaker 1: been or the criticism of him has been vastly overdone.
33:59
Speaker 1: He has not been eight he's not been a pro bowler.
34:01
Speaker 1: He has some in consistent games, but he has not
34:04
Speaker 1: been a bad left tackle in my opinion. I think
34:07
Speaker 1: sometimes when a guy hasn't lived lived up to that
34:10
Speaker 1: draft status, it gets sort of skewed too far the
34:13
Speaker 1: other way. Uh, he doesn't have that far to go
34:16
Speaker 1: to be really really good. He just as Brian said,
34:19
Speaker 1: he has to decide that he's going to take that step.
34:23
Speaker 1: And let's not forget the tackles on this team. While
34:30
Speaker 1: they perhaps haven't ascended to the level that either of
34:32
Speaker 1: them would want, have not been in an easy situation.
34:36
Speaker 1: We all know that the quarterback play behind it in
34:39
Speaker 1: terms of pocket presence for the last two years has
34:41
Speaker 1: been inconsistent at best. That doesn't help, but much more
34:46
Speaker 1: than that, when you trail all the time, it's very
34:50
Speaker 1: hard to always pass, protect and always look great. Let's
34:54
Speaker 1: get some consistency on offense around the tackles and see
34:58
Speaker 1: where they really are. Yeah, I could not agree. I
35:00
Speaker 1: remember talking to Cam Robinson last year and it was
35:03
Speaker 1: when they were going back from Gardnermansh to Mike Glennon
35:06
Speaker 1: to Jake Luton. I was like, this has got to
35:08
Speaker 1: be kind of tough, right, He's like, yeah, all of
35:11
Speaker 1: them have their same cadence, different languages of how they
35:15
Speaker 1: you know, snap the ball. It's hard you don't know
35:17
Speaker 1: who's back there. Half the time, it didn't matter who
35:19
Speaker 1: was back there. They were not an elite quarterback prospect.
35:21
Speaker 1: That's what they need. That's what this team is getting there.
35:24
Speaker 1: You go optimistic. I like it. It's not optimism. I
35:26
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Speaker 1: from them, I want to bring it to the organization.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's just guys who who know how to win,
37:35
Speaker 1: you know, and we bring a lot of guys in
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Speaker 1: um and that sort, so everybody can go in head,
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Speaker 1: get on the same page and believe in the same thing.
37:41
Speaker 1: So you know, um, I know what they had going
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Speaker 1: on in the past, but you know we're moving past that.
37:45
Speaker 1: You know, they had nothing to do with no more.
37:46
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a new team. It's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: new look. You know. We tried it for what we're
37:50
Speaker 1: gonna do now, you know, and I definitely says that's
37:52
Speaker 1: that playoff team, you know. And right now you gotta
37:54
Speaker 1: start speaking into a distance. That's something that I believe in.
37:57
Speaker 1: You know. The more I speak it up and the
37:58
Speaker 1: more I showed, the more I come to work. You
38:00
Speaker 1: don't want everybody can see it to believe the same thing.
38:02
Speaker 1: So you know, we've got n of specials here, so
38:03
Speaker 1: I can, I can, I can really care lest about
38:06
Speaker 1: what everybody else think about what happened last year the
38:08
Speaker 1: year before, you know, there's a different team, man. You
38:10
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna get a chance to show that friendly
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Speaker 1: on CBS Sports. The past is the past. It's time
38:19
Speaker 1: for the present. I liked it. I just who cares
38:24
Speaker 1: about last year? Right? I mean, this whole thing is
38:27
Speaker 1: the Trevor train. Let's go to Trevor train too too.
38:30
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's make it work. Here we go, Ryan,
38:33
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Who do you believe
38:35
Speaker 1: the captains or the leaders of this team will be.
38:39
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how this team meshes
38:42
Speaker 1: on the field. John Who. It's obviously speculation in terms
38:46
Speaker 1: of captains because these guys, I assume we'll get to
38:49
Speaker 1: know each other, and it will be more obvious to
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Speaker 1: the players who the captains ought to be once it happens.
38:56
Speaker 1: I took us. I took a stab at this in
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Speaker 1: the ozone mail bag and said I would guess Lender
39:03
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, some combination of that on offense, Josh Allen, Uh,
39:10
Speaker 1: perhaps Miles jack combination on defense. I'm guessing here, Rudy
39:15
Speaker 1: ford on on special teams. Those guys feel like leaders
39:20
Speaker 1: to me. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the mix.
39:24
Speaker 1: But I think that's a lot of what the next
39:26
Speaker 1: couple of months will bring to is finding out the
39:28
Speaker 1: answer to this question. I think it's gonna be kind
39:30
Speaker 1: of cool to see who emerges. Yeah, that's a pretty
39:33
Speaker 1: good guess. I'd say I just put the sea on
39:36
Speaker 1: Trevor's chest and send him out there. I was wondering
39:38
Speaker 1: that is it too soon? No, Hey, he's coming in
39:41
Speaker 1: here with expectations, right, and if you listen to him
39:45
Speaker 1: and read the stories right where he talks about his
39:48
Speaker 1: expectations for himself, his expectations are pretty high. It's gonna
39:52
Speaker 1: be there eventually. We might as well just start with it.
39:54
Speaker 1: There captain qualities, to say the least. All right, let's
39:57
Speaker 1: go to I just wonder if they would make him
40:00
Speaker 1: it O'Brien. There's my thought on that there's a lot
40:02
Speaker 1: of earning involved with with Urban, so perhaps that might
40:06
Speaker 1: be something that that's not an unreasonable request that he'd
40:12
Speaker 1: go and earn it. I just think he's coming in
40:13
Speaker 1: with with the expectations of being the guy um and
40:17
Speaker 1: I think he's going I from what I know of him,
40:20
Speaker 1: and admittedly it's limited personally, but from what I know
40:24
Speaker 1: talking to people who do know him. He's going to
40:26
Speaker 1: come in to be the leader right away anyway, because
40:28
Speaker 1: that's who he is. He's not going to be a
40:30
Speaker 1: wallflower who's going to hang back and let Cam Robinson
40:33
Speaker 1: do all the talking. He's always been the man high
40:36
Speaker 1: school college. He's going to be the man here. Maybe
40:39
Speaker 1: he's already earned it. Yeah, I see, and I see
40:43
Speaker 1: Coach Meyer preaching trust with his players. Maybe it is.
40:45
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the span of training camp and he gets it.
40:48
Speaker 1: At the start of the regular season, we'll see lots
40:50
Speaker 1: of time to tell all right, Dan, what you got?
40:54
Speaker 1: I noticed watching some of the Trevor highlights that most
40:57
Speaker 1: of the snaps he took were from the gun. Is
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Speaker 1: this something to be concerned about? Dan is causing problems?
41:04
Speaker 1: I chose this question because I'm not really concerned because
41:08
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate. I think they're gonna build whatever they
41:10
Speaker 1: do around him, so I think he'll be fine with that. Uh,
41:15
Speaker 1: you know, I don't notice this that much. I think
41:18
Speaker 1: he'll be fine taking shotguns snacks. I guess Brian. I
41:23
Speaker 1: don't worry about it until he shows something that can't
41:27
Speaker 1: be done, because he hasn't done it before. I'm not
41:30
Speaker 1: sure how you feel about. I couldn't care less. They'll
41:33
Speaker 1: that arm that we're you know that we're watching right now.
41:37
Speaker 1: Uh No, I'm not worried about where he lines up.
41:40
Speaker 1: I'm worried about are there enough weapons around him? They'll
41:44
Speaker 1: figure out how to use him. I don't remember Peyton
41:46
Speaker 1: Manning being under center all that much during his tenure
41:49
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Didn't hurt him. I'm okay with wherever
41:52
Speaker 1: he wants to line up. I'll see what happen. By
41:54
Speaker 1: the way, from guy, he would be concerned. If Trevor
42:01
Speaker 1: didn't have a head right now, his throwing arm was
42:04
Speaker 1: chopped off, he could throw it his left Guys, all
42:07
Speaker 1: I know is that for twenty seven years we've waited
42:10
Speaker 1: for a franchise quarterback to be there where the Jaguars
42:13
Speaker 1: were picking. And there it is. And they're not trading
42:16
Speaker 1: number one to scramble around. They're focused on their offense.
42:20
Speaker 1: Their coaches are doing what coaches do, coach, not evaluate right,
42:23
Speaker 1: not trying to figure out, well should we move to
42:25
Speaker 1: get this guy? Or maybe it's you know, maybe it's
42:28
Speaker 1: the kid from b y U, or maybe it's the
42:30
Speaker 1: kid from Ohio State. No, No, the kid from Clemson
42:33
Speaker 1: is special, not the problem, and he's ours. They're worried
42:36
Speaker 1: about how to make it work. I'll let them be concerned.
42:39
Speaker 1: By the way, Dan's from Bulgaria's like Bulgaria, Georgia. Are
42:43
Speaker 1: we talking about, you know, Eastern Europe? Varna, Bulgaria? Is
42:48
Speaker 1: that near Sophia Bulgaria. You're asking the wrong gal about
42:52
Speaker 1: to ask you no idea? I kind of knew that,
42:54
Speaker 1: but okay to say I don't know that. All right,
42:57
Speaker 1: We're going a little different direction to wrap up Woman's
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Speaker 1: History month here on Jaguar's Drive Time. A e W
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Speaker 1: is a highly successful wrestling corporation here in a lot
43:08
Speaker 1: of times, it's right here in Daily's place, and Brandy
43:11
Speaker 1: Rhodes is paving the way for women and wrestling. And
43:15
Speaker 1: by the way, she's doing it six months pregnant. Check
43:18
Speaker 1: it out. So progress has definitely been made in the
43:24
Speaker 1: department of women in wrestling, UM, female wrestlers. When I
43:28
Speaker 1: started as a female wrestler, UM, I actually wasn't able
43:31
Speaker 1: to wrestle because they were so um hell bent on
43:36
Speaker 1: having an attractive woman be a talking head. Uh So
43:40
Speaker 1: I was an announcer and I couldn't get past being
43:43
Speaker 1: an announcer to save my life. UM. I was good
43:45
Speaker 1: at the job and I enjoyed it, but I really
43:46
Speaker 1: wanted to wrestle. UM. At that point in time, Also,
43:49
Speaker 1: a lot of female wrestlers were more of a I
43:52
Speaker 1: guess variety bit not not really serious. It wasn't very competitive. UM.
43:57
Speaker 1: If there was, it was still common to ask us
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Speaker 1: to wear bathing suits and have a match in the
44:02
Speaker 1: ring and bathing suits. So, UM, it's definitely grown from
44:05
Speaker 1: that point. You definitely don't see that anymore. UM, And
44:09
Speaker 1: I think that that's a good thing, and you have
44:11
Speaker 1: to be extremely um thick skin, um and resilient. People
44:17
Speaker 1: will just not like what you're doing, and the more
44:20
Speaker 1: success you have at it, the more they seem to
44:23
Speaker 1: be upset. Um. That has to be something that you
44:25
Speaker 1: can kind of just brush off your shoulder and keep going.
44:31
Speaker 1: Brandy Rhodes the first African American woman to wrestle for
44:35
Speaker 1: a w and overall awesome to talk to it. Uh,
44:38
Speaker 1: put things into perspective, Brian, I complain that I'm tired,
44:41
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I don't want to make this graphic,
44:43
Speaker 1: and she's out here wrestling people at six months pregnant.
44:46
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you know, maybe I shouldn't complain. Yeah. No,
44:48
Speaker 1: I don't think it does any good. And I think
44:50
Speaker 1: that you you are much more graceful when you just
44:53
Speaker 1: go wow, yep than to complain. Absolutely, And that is
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Speaker 1: our program, Jaguars Drive Time. Thanks so much for tuning in.
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Speaker 1: We will see you next week. Maybe players will be here,
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Speaker 1: maybe they won't. Stay tuned for the answer. We'll find
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Speaker 1: out soon.