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Erik Dane on ALS, Disability Visibility, and Refusing to Give Up · The Karel Show

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Speaker 5: Today's show is about bravery. Eric Dane, actor diagnosed with ALS.
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Speaker 5: A lot of you may not know that both of
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Speaker 5: my parents were disabled. My mother was four foot nine.
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Speaker 5: cruel in the sixties and seventies and eighties to my
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Speaker 5: mom and to my dad being disabled. But more importantly,
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Speaker 5: my mom and dad never saw themselves on television. There
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Speaker 5: was never anybody in a wheelchair except ironside. You know.
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Speaker 5: It just people with disabilities of all types. They're just invisible,
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Speaker 5: you know, we don't really see them. And that is
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Speaker 5: tragic because I never saw my parents on TV. I
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Speaker 5: never saw a show where the mom was handicapped or
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Speaker 5: the dad was disabled, or both were disabled. But both
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Speaker 5: my parents were disabled. And now technically I have a disability.
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Speaker 5: I am on disability. My back is so messed up
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Speaker 5: that I can't maintain the schedule that I used to maintain.
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Speaker 5: Walking hurts. Just two nights ago, I woke up with
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Speaker 5: a Charlie horse in my left calf, the one that
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Speaker 5: keeps twitching. That was so painful. I jumped out of
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Speaker 5: bed crying and stretched it out and did everything I
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Speaker 5: could to make it go away. It's happened for decades now,
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Speaker 5: maybe three or four times a year again because of
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Speaker 5: my back and so living with a disability. Even now
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Speaker 5: in today's world, we don't see a lot of people
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Speaker 5: with disabilities on TV. That's why I love the show
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Speaker 5: Silent Witness on BritBox. There's there's always someone with a
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Speaker 5: disability on that show. Death they have a little person
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Speaker 5: on the show now they I mean, I've seen many
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Speaker 5: shows nowadays. Have you know a blind person, a deaf person?
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Speaker 5: But not that many, not like every show, And so
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Speaker 5: dealing with disabilities is hard enough for the disabled person,
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Speaker 5: but the population of disabled people never see themselves in
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Speaker 5: advertising in anything. A lot of you may also know
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Speaker 5: that I thought I had well. The doctors had to
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Speaker 5: rule out als because of my twitching leg from the vaccine,
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Speaker 5: and I went to the als clinic at Cedars in
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Speaker 5: Los Angeles where actor Eric Dane went and the people
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Speaker 5: that were there still functioning still, you know, in wheelchairs
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Speaker 5: or whatever, speaking on phones, even though their voices were shot.
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Speaker 5: First of all, I was terrified. I think we're all
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Speaker 5: terrified of ALS. I remember watching a movie in the
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Speaker 5: seventies about the Lou Griggs disease. It was terrifying. Then
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Speaker 5: it's the Disease of the Week movie, and it's terrifying now. Well.
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Speaker 5: Eric Dane, gorgeous, vibrant actor, has ALS. He was diagnosed
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Speaker 5: in April. However, he just did a guest spot on
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Speaker 5: the show Brilliant Minds, which is on NBC. I Believe
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Speaker 5: about a doctor, and I was invited to sit and
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Speaker 5: watch a panel of the show's creators and Eric Dane
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Speaker 5: talking about this episode and what it was like for
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Speaker 5: him to do it and why it's important to get
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Speaker 5: people with ALS out into the public view so we
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Speaker 5: can find a cure. Because Eric Danes will probably be
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Speaker 5: gone within sixteen to eighteen money and that's the tragic.
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Speaker 5: So the rest of the show is going to be
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Speaker 5: Okay, I just want to reiterate before we go, that
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Speaker 5: it takes so much courage for Eric Dane to do
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Speaker 5: this panel and to be on that show. This man
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Speaker 5: was a vibrant, gorgeous actor and now you can tell
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Speaker 5: what als is doing to him, and he wanted to
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Speaker 5: show people and here it is.
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Speaker 8: Hey, everyone, welcome. I'm Andrea Goodman, CEO of I Am Alas,
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Speaker 8: and we're grateful to have so many of you joining
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Speaker 8: us today on this Giving Tuesday, We're honored to celebrate
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Speaker 8: the extraordinary work behind NBC's critically acclaimed series Brilliant Minds
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Speaker 8: and the team who brought one of its most powerful
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Speaker 8: episodes to life. We're thrilled to welcome Brilliant Minds creator,
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Speaker 8: showrunner and executive producer Michael Grassi and consulting producer and
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Speaker 8: writer doctor Danielle lamis the creative voices behind an episode
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Speaker 8: that is rich, layered, deeply human, and speaks directly to
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Speaker 8: our community. Together and with the help of their writers room,
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Speaker 8: they've crafted a story that reflects the complexities, courage, and
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Speaker 8: emotional truth of navigating an ALS diagnosis. We're also joined
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Speaker 8: by acclaimed actor Eric Dane, whose body of work has
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Speaker 8: connected with audiences for decades. In this episode, now streaming
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Speaker 8: on Peacock, Eric delivers a deeply moving, grounded performance as Matthew,
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Speaker 8: a firefighter confronting an ALS diagnosis. The storyline holds a
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Speaker 8: personal significance for Eric. He's been incredibly open about his
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Speaker 8: own journey and has partnered with IMLS to accelerate progress
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Speaker 8: towards a cure. I'm also honored to introduce Brian Wallack
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Speaker 8: and Sondra Abrava, co founders of IMALS, whose leadership has
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Speaker 8: transformed the ALS landscape, including building a national movement, securing
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Speaker 8: more than one point two billion dollars for ALS research
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Speaker 8: and treatments, and passing the landmark Law Act for ALS.
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Speaker 8: They're an inspiration to us all and we're grateful to
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Speaker 8: have their voices as part of this important dialogue. This
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Speaker 8: episode is a testament to the power of representation, collaboration,
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Speaker 8: and truth in storytelling. If you're moved by today's conversation,
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Speaker 8: we invite you to learn more about our work and
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Speaker 8: ways you can make an impact by visiting IMALS dot org.
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Speaker 9: Welcome everybody.
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Speaker 10: It's an incredible clip from an incredible episode. I'm Sandra,
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Speaker 10: my husband Brian. We're eight years into ALS, so I'll
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Speaker 10: be translating for Brian as he shares today, but we're
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Speaker 10: so excited to be here together. And my goodness, are
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Speaker 10: we so grateful to Eric and Michael and Danielle and
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Speaker 10: the team at Brilliant Minds for such a phenomenal truth telling, hopeful,
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Speaker 10: hard hitting, honest, all the things that one would hope
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Speaker 10: for in a story about an ALS family in this episode.
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Speaker 9: So just like incredible.
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Speaker 10: Gratitude to start off with for the work that you
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Speaker 10: all did today. I'm excited to play moderator and ask
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Speaker 10: questions that we're excited to hear from our producers and
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Speaker 10: from Eric, and you know, just before we dive in,
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Speaker 10: I wanted to share that one of my favorite things
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Speaker 10: about the episode is really about the agency that you
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Speaker 10: lose as someone diagnosed with ALS and how you find
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Speaker 10: yourself grappling for ways to still be in control and
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Speaker 10: have power.
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Speaker 9: And the thing you care most about in your life
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Speaker 9: is your.
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Speaker 10: Family, of course, and so Bran and I have on
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Speaker 10: such a deep level experienced what it's like for someone
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Speaker 10: with ALS to want to protect your family is the
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Speaker 10: only thing you feel like you can control. And just
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Speaker 10: like really brilliantly done in this episode. So in any case, Eric,
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Speaker 10: you've been already an incredible advocate, and Brian was very
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Speaker 10: disappointed to miss advocating on Capitol Hill with you in
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Speaker 10: your most recent visit, but we are coming to your
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Speaker 10: next visit. So thank you for all your ad I
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Speaker 10: can see already. Thank you for doing this episode and
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Speaker 10: are you know sort of let's get into it and
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Speaker 10: love to hear you share with everybody. You know, how
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Speaker 10: did you become interested in guest starring on Brilliant Minds,
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Speaker 10: What made you want to take on this role, and
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Speaker 10: how did it feel to bring these pieces of your
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Speaker 10: own lived experience into a scripted character.
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Speaker 11: Thanks Sandra. You know, Michael reached out to me and
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Speaker 11: we got on some calls and had some pretty in
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Speaker 11: depth conversations, and that helped inform sort of the story
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Speaker 11: you wanted to tell. The hardest thing for me to
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Speaker 11: do was to separate myself from the character because it
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Speaker 11: was something that was so fresh and it was something
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Speaker 11: that was so real to me. I've never played a
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Speaker 11: character who's going through something and something I'm dealing with
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Speaker 11: in real time in real life as well. So it
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Speaker 11: was hard and there were moments where it was very
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Speaker 11: difficult for me me even get the lines out. But overall,
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Speaker 11: I was really grateful for the experience. I found it
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Speaker 11: to be a big cathartic and Michael and Danielle were
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Speaker 11: so great and sort of sort of shepherding along this
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Speaker 11: there's this tired old actor can barely speak and put
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Speaker 11: me in a position for great success, and I'm grateful
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Speaker 11: for that for that.
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Speaker 10: Well, Michael and Daniella and working with Eric. Maybe Michael first,
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Speaker 10: can you tell us about that creative process for the
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Speaker 10: episode and how you and Danielle a partnered in the
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Speaker 10: writer's room to pen such a beautiful narrative around Eric's character,
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Speaker 10: And also, you know, did you ask anything of Eric
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Speaker 10: in terms of his performance before the shooting began.
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Speaker 12: Well, thank you, Sandra and nice nice to meet you,
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Speaker 12: Brian and Eric, thank you for saying all of that.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 12: I think this episode would not have been possible without
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Speaker 12: Eric and his generosity and his collaboration. And from our
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Speaker 12: very first conversation together, I think we knew we wanted
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Speaker 12: to tell a grounded story, something that would be relatable
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Speaker 12: to a lot of people. How does a family navigate
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Speaker 12: a difficult diagnosis is one thing, and then the other
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Speaker 12: thing in our conversations that became apparent is we wanted
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Speaker 12: to create a character, in this case, a firefighter who
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Speaker 12: dedicated his life to helping others.
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Speaker 5: That's who he is, That's who who.
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Speaker 12: At his core, you know, he's always given, and I
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Speaker 12: think for many people it's very difficult to accept help.
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Speaker 12: So these two big pieces of navigating a diagnosis for
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Speaker 12: for the person who's dealing with it, but also for
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Speaker 12: the entire family, and also accepting help are the two
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Speaker 12: things that we were sort of circling in terms of
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Speaker 12: anchoring our story for this episode and in terms of
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Speaker 12: the conversations with Eric. Eric, I feel like from the
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Speaker 12: very beginning we sort of the lines of communication had
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Speaker 12: to be very open as we sort of entered this
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Speaker 12: process together, and I think it was just very important
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Speaker 12: for us to meet Eric where he was and and
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Speaker 12: and and Eric showed up every single day and and
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Speaker 12: and he blew us away. And he was incredible and
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Speaker 12: was so committed to this character and this story, and
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Speaker 12: it was incredible. And I'm very grateful to him. And
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Speaker 12: it was an incredible process.
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Speaker 10: Michael, Sorry, Daniella would love to hear you share as
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Speaker 10: well on that front.
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Speaker 13: Sure, well, I was just thinking, I guess as as
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Speaker 13: we were talking that you know, I've watched medical TV forever.
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Speaker 13: I mean, how I first know Eric Dane and uh,
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Speaker 13: there are zebra diagnoses that you see on like every
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Speaker 13: medical TV show, like over and over and over again.
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Speaker 13: You don't you don't really see als, right and uh
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Speaker 13: and uh and I had worked on other medical show previously.
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Speaker 9: It pitched sort of various.
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Speaker 14: Als is always it's always nicks, right because uh, it's
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Speaker 14: nixed because there isn't the TV win uh where oh
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Speaker 14: it was a misdiagnosis or oh we we found a cure.
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Speaker 14: But I think, you know, I think working uh in
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Speaker 14: the writer's room and working uh and and talking to
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Speaker 14: Eric and hearing some of the things sort of he
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Speaker 14: was telling us about his own journeys so far are.
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Speaker 14: It gave us a way to tell a story that
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Speaker 14: has a different kind of win and and I think
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Speaker 14: being able to put that on TV and and to
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Speaker 14: work with somebody who is really dealing with these exact issues, uh,
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Speaker 14: you know, gave it, gave it that sort of unique
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Speaker 14: power that that made it a story that works for
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Speaker 14: television while also being true.
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Speaker 13: And and I think, uh yeah.
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Speaker 10: I just will interject that I thought that one of
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Speaker 10: the TV wins that you did get out of it
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Speaker 10: is that you told a story about how well there
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Speaker 10: isn't a cure today. There are right, the doctor says,
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Speaker 10: thousands of people working on this. There's so much accelerated
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Speaker 10: research and in the meantime, we want to support you
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Speaker 10: this character to be as comfortable as possible.
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Speaker 9: But also you know, you are.
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Speaker 10: Responsive to the daughters ask right to you know, enrolling
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Speaker 10: clinical trials to get.
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Speaker 9: Access to cutting edge treatment.
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Speaker 10: So anyway, I just wanted to share that, you know,
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Speaker 10: I don't know anything about TV writing, but I felt,
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Speaker 10: as a consumer of the information the win from it.
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Speaker 9: So thank you both for that.
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Speaker 11: Well.
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Speaker 10: Eric, curious for you to share, maybe even beyond the
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Speaker 10: diagnosis of the character that you have in common. Were
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Speaker 10: there other characteristics of the character you play.
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Speaker 9: That you felt are similar to your own.
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Speaker 10: Character or personality and maybe kind of continue from that.
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Speaker 10: Has this informed the kind of characters you want to
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Speaker 10: play moving forward, or have you had put any thought
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Speaker 10: to that.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I found a lot similarities between Alien. It's an
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Speaker 11: obvious damon to make, but a lot of similarities, and
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Speaker 11: some of the things that Michael and I to talk
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Speaker 11: about actually ended up in the story. I you know,
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Speaker 11: I'm fairly limited in what I can do physically as
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Speaker 11: an actor, but I still have my brain and I
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Speaker 11: still have my speech, you know. So I'm I'm willing
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Speaker 11: to do just about anything. I'll take on any role,
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Speaker 11: but I think from here on out, it's gonna have
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Speaker 11: to me, you know, als centric. There's gonna be me
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Speaker 11: very difficult for me to play any other role where
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Speaker 11: you know, you know, look at the inner bou gerol
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Speaker 11: in the room, and I'm I'm fine with that. I'm
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Speaker 11: fine with that as long I'm grateful that I can
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Speaker 11: still work in any capacity. But yeah, I did find
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Speaker 11: a lot of similarities between this guy, you know who.
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Speaker 11: It's funny it was one day On said I was
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Speaker 11: I was in rehearsalon. I was chewing gum and the
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Speaker 11: directors said, you have to chew gum in this, you
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Speaker 11: have to chew gum. And this we're gonna pick a
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Speaker 11: couple of scenes where's chewing gum. And I've never chewed
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Speaker 11: gum on screen before in front of a camera, but
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Speaker 11: it felt that it felt like me and I'm gonna
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Speaker 11: take that with me from here around. Like when the
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Speaker 11: keep chewing gum, it.
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Speaker 9: Feels like a good off label. You guys like to
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Speaker 9: keep the muscles like going.
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Speaker 11: It's really it came to Kani in the moment. You're
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Speaker 11: you know you have an activity that you're doing that
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Speaker 11: you know you even can even keep you sustain.
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Speaker 5: All right, we'll be right back with more of this
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Speaker 5: press conference with Eric Dane and wow, already right, I mean,
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Speaker 5: just the courage. I don't know that I could do it.
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Speaker 5: I I don't know that I could go in public anymore.
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Speaker 15: Wow, We'll be right back now. Is show.
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Speaker 5: Eric Dane has appeared in hundreds of episodes of television
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Speaker 5: and over twenty films. He was known as a sex symbol,
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Speaker 5: a big hunk, and then he got als. Now his
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Speaker 5: life and the roles have changed, but he is still
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Speaker 5: out there trying to make a difference. More of our conversation,
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Speaker 5: not our conversation, but more of the conversation with Eric,
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Speaker 5: Dane and I am ALS.
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Speaker 9: Well. Brian don't ask to choose them, but Eric before
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Speaker 9: the two of us, Michael and Danielle.
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Speaker 10: I'm curious, like, as you thought both about what this
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Speaker 10: episode would mean to Eric and then also the broader
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Speaker 10: ALS community. Were there certain issues you grappled with, certain
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Speaker 10: things you really wanted to get right as you wrote it.
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Speaker 12: I think one of the biggest things, and we talked
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Speaker 12: about this in the room quite a bit. We two
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Speaker 12: of our writers have family members who lived with ALS,
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Speaker 12: so it was personal in the room. And one of
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Speaker 12: the things that we talked about is that we didn't
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Speaker 12: want to sensationalize this. We didn't want to We've seen
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Speaker 12: some medicals where people come in and they have a
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Speaker 12: diagnosis and then there's a magical fix at the end,
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Speaker 12: or there's a magical cure, and that wasn't the story
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Speaker 12: that we were telling with this episode, and it was
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Speaker 12: important for us to not only raise awareness, but do
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Speaker 12: it in a way that didn't feel sensationalized and felt
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Speaker 12: like it was a story that people can find themselves in,
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Speaker 12: and that was really the biggest priority is that people
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Speaker 12: could watch this and if it could reach out to
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Speaker 12: someone and make them feel like they weren't alone and
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Speaker 12: make them feel like I could see myself in this,
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Speaker 12: or I can see my family in this. I think
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Speaker 12: that those were the things that we really wanted to hit.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was really uncanny how much you got this
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Speaker 11: right A lot. I was every scene I was in,
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Speaker 11: I was like, this is so, this is so you know,
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Speaker 11: sharp and intelligent. What a wonderful observation. You know it's horrible,
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Speaker 11: but what a great inertation of it. I think it
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Speaker 11: was a good remusentation.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Brian, the moment where Eric your characters like, no,
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Speaker 10: I'm doing the breathing test again, I can do better.
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Speaker 9: Oh my god. The number of times where it's like
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Speaker 9: I've done that. It is what it is, babe, Like Yeah.
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Speaker 12: And my favorite part of shooting that scene was Eric
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Speaker 12: ad libbed something hilarious and amazing at the end of
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Speaker 12: that scene every single time, And what made into the
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Speaker 12: cut was letter rip for her second one for the
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Speaker 12: second breathings. As much I love, but he had sharp
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Speaker 12: he was making everyone laugh on set, especially Ari Kreps,
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Speaker 12: who plays Dana, is a huge Gray Anatomy fan, so
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Speaker 12: when she learned she'd be sharing the screen with Eric Dane,
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Speaker 12: it was truly a dream come true moment for her
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Speaker 12: and many And.
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Speaker 10: Well, Danielle, you've written about als and the New York
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Speaker 10: Times and uh, you know, you're very familiar with the
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Speaker 10: disease and curious what from your perspective you really wanted
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Speaker 10: to get right as well.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, we wanted to get all of it right.
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Speaker 13: But but uh, you.
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Speaker 9: Know, I think I think, I mean, as everyone was.
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Speaker 13: Saying, sort of the human experience of something without toes
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Speaker 13: Michael's word, sensationalizing it. You know, I think sort of
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Speaker 13: working in the ICU is you know, when I work
24:26
Speaker 13: in the hospital, and like we see people sort of
24:28
Speaker 13: facing a lot of inflection points, some that are huge
24:32
Speaker 13: and some that might appear to the outside world to
24:34
Speaker 13: be smaller. What is it really a machine strapped to
24:38
Speaker 13: the face?
24:39
Speaker 10: Uh?
24:39
Speaker 13: And I you know, but but like but like these
24:43
Speaker 13: these moments, these moments that that that that that changed
24:48
Speaker 13: sort of the nature of somebody's life, and like how
24:51
Speaker 13: people navigate that stuff.
24:53
Speaker 14: I think it's fascinating.
24:54
Speaker 9: And I think I think really.
24:57
Speaker 13: Showing uh the extent, which like like like I'm always
25:02
Speaker 13: amazing in the hospital, people are fucking amazing, Like you
25:04
Speaker 13: guys are amazing, Like Britt, You're you're amazing, Like Soundra,
25:08
Speaker 13: You're amazing, Like I mean, Eric, like you're you're you're awesome,
25:11
Speaker 13: and like people are people who Yeah, I mean you
25:14
Speaker 13: said this to us.
25:15
Speaker 9: And one of these calls, Eric, you didn't say I'm amazing.
25:18
Speaker 13: You said like you said, you know that like you've
25:20
Speaker 13: dealt with this with like like a plumb that you
25:23
Speaker 13: like didn't expect. You know, You're like, I'm a whiner,
25:25
Speaker 13: but like I'm not really whining.
25:27
Speaker 4: I think with something like that you said.
25:28
Speaker 11: Right, that's true.
25:30
Speaker 5: Hopefully I'm not al to you.
25:32
Speaker 9: That'd be an awkward one.
25:33
Speaker 13: But but you know, but showing like the ex yeah,
25:36
Speaker 13: like like people have a lot of people, not everyone.
25:40
Speaker 13: People need support to have resilience, like you, it's hard
25:42
Speaker 13: to have resilience alone in a vacuum. But but but
25:46
Speaker 13: when when when when sort of called to the task,
25:50
Speaker 13: people can be awesome. And I feel like our show
25:53
Speaker 13: really tries to tell that story often, and and and
25:59
Speaker 13: I think, you know, we want I wanted to show
26:00
Speaker 13: with this. You know, it wasn't it's a really bad diagnosis.
26:03
Speaker 13: We didn't want to tell a dismal story. And and
26:07
Speaker 13: and I think, you know, I think that's that's what
26:09
Speaker 13: we tried to get across. That people are funny, people
26:11
Speaker 13: have grit, people are awesome.
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Speaker 5: Today's show is I Am Als. It's the name of
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Speaker 5: the show that we're watching. It has Eric Dane on it,
27:09
Speaker 5: the actor, and he's talking about his adventures.
27:12
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27:30
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Speaker 5: from Eric Dane beautiful, big, huge movie star, gorgeous guy
27:38
Speaker 5: to the guy in the wheelchair within just a matter
27:41
Speaker 5: of months, and to still act this takes courage. I
27:45
Speaker 5: want to hear more. So let's hear more.
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Speaker 10: Daniella, still practicing as a doctor and probably really having
27:56
Speaker 10: a still weekly view of how families navigate these diagnoses.
28:02
Speaker 10: What was something that you really wanted to make sure
28:05
Speaker 10: to elevate in terms of how families connect around news
28:10
Speaker 10: like this, how they carry it either alone or willing
28:14
Speaker 10: to share the burden. Just curious for any of your
28:18
Speaker 10: thoughts on that front about families.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think, you know, we tried to show sort
28:24
Speaker 13: of a range of reactions without that would be demonstrated
28:29
Speaker 13: without judgment, like and so uh, you know the fact
28:34
Speaker 13: that there there isn't uh, there isn't a right or
28:37
Speaker 13: wrong way, and maybe somebody's initial sort of I'll do
28:41
Speaker 13: this thing like like you know, it might not it
28:44
Speaker 13: might not be realistic ultimately, and like you know, I
28:48
Speaker 13: think I think trying to uh and I think, yeah,
28:53
Speaker 13: I think I think trying to tell a story that
28:57
Speaker 13: that that built in the fact that like we weren't
29:01
Speaker 13: going to leave this family with this idea that like
29:04
Speaker 13: they would like do it alone, and like telling a
29:06
Speaker 13: story about something that like that like ultimately isn't really possible,
29:09
Speaker 13: I think was a few of ours, and so I
29:11
Speaker 13: think I think bringing in a larger community was was
29:14
Speaker 13: really helpful. And I think, you know, there's so much
29:18
Speaker 13: right like and we don't tell it all in the
29:21
Speaker 13: span of one episode, but but really showing how like
29:26
Speaker 13: the entire history of one's relationship like comes to bear
29:29
Speaker 13: like in these moments, I think was also something that
29:32
Speaker 13: we kind of wanted to wanted to be able to
29:35
Speaker 13: get into a little bit.
29:37
Speaker 10: Yeah, the scene with the ex's wife with the psychiatrist
29:41
Speaker 10: was so compelling to really beautifully done. Okay, Michael, if
29:48
Speaker 10: you feel willing to spill the beans just a little bit,
29:52
Speaker 10: can you tell us where Eric scripted parts that weren't originally.
29:56
Speaker 12: Scripted, Well, listen, they're definitely was some ad lib in there,
30:01
Speaker 12: and every time he did it, it was pure gold
30:03
Speaker 12: and whatever whatever was there definitely be on screen because
30:06
Speaker 12: Eric's so funny and so fun and a lot of
30:09
Speaker 12: the magic also happened when we called cut and just
30:11
Speaker 12: getting to chat with Eric and and Eric connecting with
30:14
Speaker 12: our cast and our crew was some of the best moments.
30:18
Speaker 12: Getting to collaborate with him and I'm just very grateful
30:21
Speaker 12: for our time together on set in Toronto.
30:24
Speaker 11: He was, He's amazing.
30:26
Speaker 3: Eric's amazing.
30:28
Speaker 11: Thank you, Michael. I feel the same way about you.
30:32
Speaker 11: I had such a great time working on this show.
30:36
Speaker 11: It is a very very tight group up there in Toronto,
30:42
Speaker 11: and you know, it's very it's not easy to get
30:45
Speaker 11: a crew together actors and crew members and producers, writers
30:52
Speaker 11: and directors and are all seemingly on the same page,
30:57
Speaker 11: committed to a singular focus, which is to put the
31:01
Speaker 11: best probably they can on the screen and and and
31:08
Speaker 11: tell a great story. And that's what everybody was focused on.
31:13
Speaker 11: I saw that right away, and it was a nice
31:17
Speaker 11: it made it made me feel welcome and and kind
31:21
Speaker 11: of comforted, and it was a familiar feeling to me.
31:26
Speaker 11: There was a feeling of familiarity out there, and so
31:30
Speaker 11: I had I had a wonderful time. My Michael, Well,
31:34
Speaker 11: thank you for seeing all that.
31:35
Speaker 12: Eric, and we really it was important for all of
31:38
Speaker 12: us to step up and make Eric proud and make
31:42
Speaker 12: sure he felt welcome. But Eric showed up every day
31:45
Speaker 12: and stepped up and and he was amazing and sort
31:48
Speaker 12: of like everyone really wanted to make this special and
31:54
Speaker 12: the work is all on screen and in the story
31:57
Speaker 12: and the storytelling it and Eric's performance, so so I'm
32:00
Speaker 12: very grateful, very very grateful.
32:03
Speaker 5: You know, Eric Dane is still handsome. I have to
32:06
Speaker 5: tell you, I'd still go Wow, he's hot. And here
32:10
Speaker 5: he is talking about the challenges of acting with ALS.
32:14
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32:16
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32:21
Speaker 5: gob back at the courage of all of you, everybody
32:25
Speaker 5: that we're watching and living with this.
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Speaker 5: That you need to know, all right. It is the crowdcast.
33:00
Speaker 5: And on this next to the last day of the year,
33:03
Speaker 5: we are watching a press conference about Eric Dane being
33:05
Speaker 5: on the show Brilliant Minds, but more importantly about living
33:09
Speaker 5: with ALS. None of us can imagine what it would
33:13
Speaker 5: be like to get that diagnosis. I for a month
33:16
Speaker 5: or two months while I was waiting to go, I
33:19
Speaker 5: was terrified everything was a symptom. I was starting to
33:23
Speaker 5: think about dying within two years and what about Ember?
33:26
Speaker 5: And it was just horrific to even live in the
33:30
Speaker 5: shadow of it, but to be him and then to
33:33
Speaker 5: continue acting, I just can't. So let's watch the final
33:37
Speaker 5: part of this I am als and then we'll come
33:41
Speaker 5: back to regular topics.
33:43
Speaker 10: Well, I think that gratitude was expressed through this standing
33:47
Speaker 10: ovation that there was some news of looked like an
33:52
Speaker 10: incredible moment. Eric, and you know, we would have like
33:58
Speaker 10: been right there a longside everybody. It's remarkable the way
34:03
Speaker 10: you are leveraging your superpower to do something around communicating
34:10
Speaker 10: about this disease that no one else has had an
34:12
Speaker 10: opportunity to have. You're You're literally doing something no one
34:15
Speaker 10: has ever done before with this.
34:18
Speaker 11: I'm not about to conceive my impermanits for some disease
34:24
Speaker 11: it is not capable of doing that.
34:28
Speaker 10: Well, Brian and I I'm very grateful to have you
34:34
Speaker 10: on this journey with us. I know Brian also wanted
34:39
Speaker 10: to share how he felt about the episode, and for Brian,
34:44
Speaker 10: he communicates now with I Gays and it takes a while,
34:49
Speaker 10: so I just want to take a moment, if you
34:51
Speaker 10: guys will all bear with me, to sort of pull
34:52
Speaker 10: up what Brian took some time to hammer out on
34:57
Speaker 10: I Gays. So I shared with Brian, you know, we
35:00
Speaker 10: wanted to hear from him about from the perspective of
35:05
Speaker 10: someone who's transformed a lot of the legislation and federal
35:10
Speaker 10: funding and the medical community work around this disease.
35:15
Speaker 9: What impact do you hope this.
35:16
Speaker 10: Episode has on those broader conversations? And Brian with I
35:23
Speaker 10: Gaze typed the following that I'll read, which is first
35:27
Speaker 10: before I answer. I want to say a huge thank
35:29
Speaker 10: you to everyone who was involved in this episode of
35:32
Speaker 10: Brilliant Minds. Eric's performance is raw and powerful and beautiful,
35:38
Speaker 10: and I'd also like to thank all the caregivers out
35:40
Speaker 10: there who are endlessly supporting people living with ALS. My
35:45
Speaker 10: hope is that this episode brings awareness to millions of
35:48
Speaker 10: people who may or may not know about what ALS
35:52
Speaker 10: brings onto families and the individuals diagnosed. It doesn't discriminate,
35:58
Speaker 10: It can affect anyone matter your race, or age or sex,
36:02
Speaker 10: and I hope this episode brings awareness that ALS isn't
36:06
Speaker 10: just a medical condition, but a policy and research and
36:10
Speaker 10: human issue, and Sondra, myself and the entire im ALS
36:16
Speaker 10: community have worked for years to show that the system
36:20
Speaker 10: isn't permanently broken, that there's hope, and that when ALS
36:24
Speaker 10: is shown clearly with compassion, as you all have done
36:28
Speaker 10: in this episode, it becomes harder for leaders in healthcare
36:32
Speaker 10: and policy to ignore it and easier for us to
36:35
Speaker 10: demand action.
36:36
Speaker 9: So Brian wanted to say thank you for that. Thank you, Brian,
36:46
Speaker 9: Michael and Daniella.
36:49
Speaker 10: You cover some tough topics, including ALS, and you sort
36:54
Speaker 10: of talked about the win.
36:57
Speaker 9: How do you know? Sort of how do you think?
37:00
Speaker 10: I shared a bit about how I think you won,
37:03
Speaker 10: but curious how you all as a writer's room felt
37:06
Speaker 10: like you were able to win and deliver the message
37:09
Speaker 10: about this disease. That exactly to your point. I mean,
37:12
Speaker 10: are you all truly the first to have depicted it?
37:15
Speaker 10: I mean, I have no recollection of it being depicted
37:18
Speaker 10: on a medical show before.
37:21
Speaker 12: CenTra. I can't speak to that stat I don't I
37:23
Speaker 12: don't know these it's the first first, let's say the first.
37:29
Speaker 12: Let's say it's the first. No, I let's yeah, let's
37:32
Speaker 12: say that. I think the biggest thing that I feel
37:39
Speaker 12: like we accomplished altogether was the fact that there are
37:46
Speaker 12: characters with agency on screen. Eric's character Matthew who has agency,
37:51
Speaker 12: and all of these family members who want to help,
37:55
Speaker 12: and everyone is involved, and they're having conversations about something
37:59
Speaker 12: that is really important and really difficult conversations to have.
38:05
Speaker 12: They are not easy topics. And having these incredible actors
38:11
Speaker 12: to pick these characters, which I think families everywhere around
38:16
Speaker 12: the world can see themselves in, I think is the
38:19
Speaker 12: biggest accomplishment. This show is inspired by a doctor. His
38:23
Speaker 12: name is Oliver Sacks, and Oliver Sacks is a man
38:27
Speaker 12: who dedicated his life to writing about conditions that were
38:33
Speaker 12: often lesser known or very scary to talk about. He
38:37
Speaker 12: dedicateds like to destigmatizing mental health and mental illness. So
38:42
Speaker 12: when we started making Brilliant Minds, that's what we want
38:45
Speaker 12: to do with every single one of our episodes, and
38:48
Speaker 12: this episode in particular is an example of that and
38:52
Speaker 12: carrying that torch forward and that if we're talking about
38:56
Speaker 12: something it's helping to destigmatize it, it's also helping to
38:59
Speaker 12: raise awareness. So so so I think that's the biggest win.
39:02
Speaker 12: I would I would share about this, but Daniella probably
39:05
Speaker 12: has a more eloquent answer.
39:07
Speaker 9: Oh, I was gonna say that was good.
39:09
Speaker 4: Now I agree, you know.
39:11
Speaker 13: I think look, I think there's like there's a drive
39:14
Speaker 13: in TV shows to have these you know, big escalations
39:17
Speaker 13: and alarms blaring and stuff like that. And I think
39:19
Speaker 13: being able to tell a story that that didn't sort
39:23
Speaker 13: of artificially import that, to tell a story about a
39:26
Speaker 13: person making decisions and connecting reconnecting with with people that
39:31
Speaker 13: that he loves, I think, I think is is a win.
39:36
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think, well, everyone at I am a
39:42
Speaker 10: LUs is very grateful for this work that you all
39:45
Speaker 10: have done.
39:47
Speaker 3: Eric.
39:48
Speaker 10: Our last question is for you. You know, you said
39:52
Speaker 10: you're not letting go of your purpose, which we love.
39:55
Speaker 10: We feel the same way. We're tripling down on our
39:57
Speaker 10: purpose and we're excited to triple down with you. Maybe
40:01
Speaker 10: if you could share why, why and how you process
40:09
Speaker 10: this sort of new journey and sort of self imposed
40:13
Speaker 10: responsibility right to use your superpower for this good. How
40:18
Speaker 10: do you think about that? You know, what do you
40:22
Speaker 10: hope people understand about this journey? And how do you
40:26
Speaker 10: want to drive impact.
40:29
Speaker 11: Well. The first thing is, like I was telling Danielle,
40:34
Speaker 11: I have no reason to me in a good spirit
40:38
Speaker 11: at any time on any given day. I don't think
40:42
Speaker 11: anybody would blame me if I went upstairs in my
40:46
Speaker 11: bedroom crawling under the sheets. And it's been the next
40:49
Speaker 11: two weeks crying, and I was. I was a little
40:54
Speaker 11: bit pleasantly surprised to realize that I wasn't building that
40:58
Speaker 11: because I love are sure that was gonna be me.
41:03
Speaker 11: You know, any time I got to don't worry about
41:06
Speaker 11: a diagnosis like this, I'm for sure I was gonna
41:10
Speaker 11: be the the ladder. I turned out to be the former,
41:13
Speaker 11: which which is very encouraging. It's encouraging for me to
41:20
Speaker 11: know that I actually can have like a buoyant spirit
41:24
Speaker 11: in the face of something so horrible. This experience was
41:32
Speaker 11: was was one of a kind. I don't I don't
41:37
Speaker 11: know that I ever do it again for anybody else,
41:43
Speaker 11: you know, I I think it's it's it's it's imperative
41:51
Speaker 11: that I share my journey with as many people as
41:56
Speaker 11: I can, because I don't feel like my life life
42:01
Speaker 11: is about me anymore. And it's something I've had to
42:05
Speaker 11: wrestle with because I'm a pretty selfish person, and I
42:12
Speaker 11: would love my life to be all about me, but
42:14
Speaker 11: I just I just can't. I don't think I can.
42:20
Speaker 11: I don't think i'd be able to move forward if
42:23
Speaker 11: that were the case. That's helping. It's been very propulsive.
42:27
Speaker 11: It's been a propulsive sort of component to my existence.
42:34
Speaker 11: You know. Obviously I have a family at home and
42:37
Speaker 11: they're the first priority, but this is such a big
42:40
Speaker 11: deal to me, you know, to make sure that people
42:43
Speaker 11: are aware of what's what als is and what it's about,
42:47
Speaker 11: and more importantly, what we can do to combat it
42:52
Speaker 11: and improve the landscape because it's so it's so rocky
42:58
Speaker 11: and littered with hurdles and bureaucracy and all this other
43:03
Speaker 11: nonsense that we're trying to sift there so we can
43:07
Speaker 11: get to a place where we go start working on solutions.
43:14
Speaker 11: And I think Brian and Sona are doing a great job,
43:17
Speaker 11: and that's why I parted it up with them, so,
43:21
Speaker 11: you know, and in clothing, this whole thing was just
43:24
Speaker 11: such a such a wonderful experience, you know, and the
43:29
Speaker 11: thing that we're doing today is such a I think
43:32
Speaker 11: it's so fantastic that we can get this out to
43:35
Speaker 11: people let them know that well, this is what it
43:39
Speaker 11: looks like.
43:42
Speaker 10: Okay, I lied before trying to get over to and
43:44
Speaker 10: I just want to say that that right there, that
43:48
Speaker 10: there is hope, that there are treatments on the horizon,
43:52
Speaker 10: and that if this episode and you know sort of
43:55
Speaker 10: what Eric is doing inspires you to take action, that's
43:59
Speaker 10: that's a amazing That's the only way we're going to
44:02
Speaker 10: drive forward towards you know, the treatments and the cure
44:07
Speaker 10: that we think is right around the corner.
44:10
Speaker 8: So thank you you're here. Wow, what an incredibly powerful discussion.
44:17
Speaker 8: Thank you everybody to NBC, Warner Brothers Television, and Berlanzi
44:22
Speaker 8: Productions for your support. To Eric and Michael and Daniella,
44:26
Speaker 8: your openness, artistry and commitment to raising awareness about als
44:32
Speaker 8: is making such a real difference to our community. We
44:36
Speaker 8: hope you continue to champion stories and communities like ours
44:39
Speaker 8: who deserve to be seen and heard. And if you're
44:43
Speaker 8: listening and you miss this incredible episode of Brilliant Minds,
44:46
Speaker 8: you can stream it on Peacock. New episodes air Mondays
44:50
Speaker 8: on NBC. To Brian and Sondra, We're all so proud
44:54
Speaker 8: of the movement. You built that is I am ALS.
44:57
Speaker 8: Thank you for creating a community defined by ridge connection
45:01
Speaker 8: and an unwavering belief in what's possible. As you've heard today,
45:06
Speaker 8: ALS is not just a storyline. It's a lived reality
45:09
Speaker 8: for thousands of individuals and families, and we invite you
45:13
Speaker 8: to learn more and join the movement by visiting imails
45:16
Speaker 8: dot org. Thank you all for spending this time with us.
45:19
Speaker 8: Your support genuinely makes a difference. Thank you all.
45:25
Speaker 5: Wow. Wow, First of all, I saw that episode. It
45:30
Speaker 5: is so moving. You know, aren't imitating life or life
45:36
Speaker 5: imitating art? Ken We'll finish up right after this. Don't
45:39
Speaker 5: go anywhere. Wow, this is a big wow.
45:44
Speaker 11: All right.
46:05
Speaker 4: Now it's show side.
46:20
Speaker 5: Alrighty. You know I took a chance playing that. Some
46:23
Speaker 5: of you probably aren't here. You tuned out, you went away, whatever,
46:28
Speaker 5: But a few of you stayed and a few of
46:30
Speaker 5: you got inspired and maybe gave At the bottom. There
46:36
Speaker 5: was a way to donate.
46:41
Speaker 8: You know.
46:43
Speaker 5: When I watched that the first time while editing it
46:46
Speaker 5: for the show, you know, I thought to myself, what
46:50
Speaker 5: would you do? You know, I worry so much about
46:53
Speaker 5: my health. I do, as you all know, I have
46:55
Speaker 5: medical anxiety, but I act like if something were to happen, cancer,
47:02
Speaker 5: als ms, whatever, that life would just stop. And it doesn't.
47:07
Speaker 5: It doesn't stop until you stop breathing. And I know
47:13
Speaker 5: that I would still try to be me, you know,
47:16
Speaker 5: up until you know. I'd make it all a show.
47:19
Speaker 5: I'd i'd take you with me to chemotherapy, or I'd
47:22
Speaker 5: show you what they were doing to me and the
47:24
Speaker 5: you know whatever. I'd let let them operate on me.
47:27
Speaker 5: I'd bring you to the O R. You know, I
47:30
Speaker 5: as long as I could speak, and then even if
47:32
Speaker 5: I couldn't. If I couldn't speak, I'd probably write, but
47:37
Speaker 5: I would I would keep communicating. Eric Dane's an actor
47:42
Speaker 5: and he wants to die an actor, uh and make
47:46
Speaker 5: more money for his family, obviously, and to see that
47:51
Speaker 5: kind of bravery. We don't see bravery like that every
47:54
Speaker 5: disabled person that gets up and goes out into the world. No,
48:00
Speaker 5: they're going to be judged. You know, they're good. I
48:04
Speaker 5: saw Eric Day in there and thought he's hot. I'd
48:06
Speaker 5: still sleep with him, you know, but knowing that they're
48:09
Speaker 5: going to be judged not by who they are, but
48:13
Speaker 5: first by what you see. And as wonderful as all
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Speaker 5: of you are, you know that's still a thing. When
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Speaker 5: you see a handicapped person, the first thing you do
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Speaker 5: is notice the difference, not the sameness. And what we
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Speaker 5: always forget is it's their body that's handicapped. Their brain,
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Speaker 5: their mind, their spirit, their soul is still in there
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Speaker 5: wanting everything yours does. People in wheelchairs and this I
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Speaker 5: don't want to say trans people have a handicap, but
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Speaker 5: it goes the same for trans people. They have a
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Speaker 5: medical condition, and in order to be themselves, they have
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Speaker 5: to go out and be judged every fucking single day
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Speaker 5: by trump, by you, by their bosses, by everybody. My
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Speaker 5: mom is the reason I am the way that I am.
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Speaker 5: My mother, Rose Marie Tromblay Boulat is the reason I
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Speaker 5: can say fuck anything, fuck it all, you know, because
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Speaker 5: I watched her get laughed at. I watched her not
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Speaker 5: be able to do things that other moms could do,
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Speaker 5: but still try to do those things. I've carried my mother,
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Speaker 5: I've changed my mother's diaper, I've you know, I've done
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Speaker 5: so many things over my lifetime with my mom because
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Speaker 5: of her disabilities, and then later of course when she
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Speaker 5: was in the nursing home and everywhere we went, especially
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Speaker 5: when I got bigger. You know, here, I'm five ten,
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Speaker 5: mom's four nine, you know, and people are always like
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Speaker 5: that came out of you. You know, they didn't believe
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Speaker 5: we were mother and son because somehow a four foot
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Speaker 5: nine woman just couldn't possibly have, you know, an able
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Speaker 5: bodied young man. It's it's a world that is unforgiving
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Speaker 5: and the courage that it takes to be different. And
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Speaker 5: that's what a disability really is about. I mean, they're
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Speaker 5: not totally disabled, even quadriplegics. Look at Stephen Hawkings, you know,
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Speaker 5: but you're different. You're not the same. And I know
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Speaker 5: a lot about that about being different, and it takes
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Speaker 5: so much courage when you are different. You know, everyone
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Speaker 5: calls me courageous. I see Eric Dane and I think
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Speaker 5: that's courageous. I'm not courageous. I'm just being correl, you
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Speaker 5: know him, that's courageous. So I hope on December thirtieth,
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Speaker 5: if you watched it, I hope that this inspired you,
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Speaker 5: that it educated you, that it will make you a
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Speaker 5: little more. How I say this, I know you're all
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Speaker 5: decent people.
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Speaker 8: But.
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Speaker 5: Maybe you'll go out of your way to talk to
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Speaker 5: people who are disabled, to help to volunteer or to
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Speaker 5: just treat them normally. You know, the last thing a
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Speaker 5: disabled person wants is to be treated differently. That's what
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Speaker 5: the last thing a trans person wants, the last thing
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Speaker 5: a gay person wants, the last thing that any different
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Speaker 5: person wants is to be treated differently. And we don't
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Speaker 5: set up the world for different people, particularly handicapped. You know,
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Speaker 5: our country is pre good nowhere near where it needs
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Speaker 5: to be. Other countries it's a crab shoot. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I can't imagine being in a wheelchair in London or
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Speaker 5: other places where the city just isn't built for that.
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Speaker 5: So being different, no matter what it is, meeting challenges
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Speaker 5: and still getting up and going outside and facing the day,
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Speaker 5: still going to your job, now that's courageous. So I
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Speaker 5: hope that this episode gives you some courage if you're different,
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Speaker 5: if you're handicapped, if you're facing an illness. He knows
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Speaker 5: he's going to die, and he knows he's going to
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Speaker 5: die within the next year, year and a half. He
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Speaker 5: knows that the only person to live with als beyond
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Speaker 5: three to five years, Stephen Hawkins. He had a slow
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Speaker 5: moving progression, and there are very few three percent of
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Speaker 5: people with als are somewhere around there have one that
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Speaker 5: progresses slowly. Everyone else twenty four months from diagnosis, and
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Speaker 5: it usually takes a year just to get a diagnosis.
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Speaker 5: We need to cure this, We need AI to help.
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Speaker 5: We need to cure this and so many other diseases
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Speaker 5: that affect people and just devastate their lives, neurological diseases.
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Speaker 5: And look at Michael J. Fox. There's another example of courage,
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Speaker 5: Michael J. Fox. So draw inspiration from them and maybe
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Speaker 5: realize your problems aren't quite so bad.
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Speaker 1: I am COREL.
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Speaker 5: Tomorrow's New Year's Eve, I will be here with a
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Speaker 5: year end show, so please tune in for that. Be
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Speaker 5: who you want to be into unless it be who
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Speaker 5: you want to be, so long as it doesn't hurt.
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Speaker 5: Anybody probably said that five bouts time. I don't know
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Speaker 5: a lot, and we'll see tomorrow much club.
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