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Jeffrey Epstein And His Personal Chef · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: Article today from Uproxx.com and it is about Adam Perry
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  Speaker 1: Lang's appearance on the Joe Rogan experience. The headline, Joe
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  Speaker 1: Rogan's most recent podcast guest and the lack of questions
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  Speaker 1: about his past have raised some eyebrows. The author of
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  Speaker 1: this piece from Uproxx is Zach Johnston. If you follow
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  Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan experience, even in a passive way, you'll
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  Speaker 1: know how often the mysterious death of Jeffrey Epstein comes up.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: I pretty much religiously listen to Joe Rogan's podcast while
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  Speaker 1: I'm hiking and climbing and on adventures, and he talks
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  Speaker 1: about Epstein all the time. And for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: Rogan's awesome. I would say 99.5% of the time, Rogan
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  Speaker 1: is just incredible with the way he formats his show
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  Speaker 1: and how he goes about his business. But in this case,
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  Speaker 1: I really think that he missed a solid chance here
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  Speaker 1: to really, really dig in and get some answers from
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  Speaker 1: the chef. You can simply Google Joe Rogan Experience Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and pages of clips of Rogan and different guests
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  Speaker 1: spanning dozens of episodes will pop up. If you listen
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  Speaker 1: to Rogan a little more closely, you'll also know whenever
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  Speaker 1: Epstein does come up, the infamous Lolita Express comes up too,
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's private plane. Rogan usually brings it up in relation
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  Speaker 1: to former President Bill Clinton by saying, while emphasizing every
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  Speaker 1: single syllable... Bill Clinton wrote on the Lolita Express no
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  Speaker 1: less than 26 times. Well, yeah, why shouldn't he bring
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  Speaker 1: that up? It's like the author of this article is
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  Speaker 1: mad that he would bring up Bill Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand what the whole rallying around Bill
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  Speaker 1: Clinton is these days. I mean, the guy's been credibly
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  Speaker 1: accused of by how many women and still he's like
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  Speaker 1: somebody that people are rallying around to defend. And really
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  Speaker 1: what that comes down to, folks, is tribalism, right? It
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  Speaker 1: comes down to our side versus their side. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to protect our side so it doesn't look like we're
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  Speaker 1: all bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's so stupid. And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Not to digress and jump off topic for a second. Well,
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  Speaker 1: kind of the same topic, but lately on Twitter, on
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of threads that I've been tagged in, I've
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  Speaker 1: been seeing a lot of partisan tribalism and it's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of bullshit. If you tag me in one of
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  Speaker 1: those posts with your tribalism and your nonsense, do not
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  Speaker 1: expect a response from me. I'm not going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about any of that BS. There is plenty of scumbags
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  Speaker 1: to go around on both sides of the aisle, all right?
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  Speaker 1: There's no good guys here. Everybody's a gray character, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Come on now.
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  Speaker 1: Worth noting, Rogan rarely brings up how many times current
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump was on that very same plane. So
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  Speaker 1: you have to engage in whataboutism, right? So if you
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  Speaker 1: bring up one person, you have to bring up the other. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's not how this works, okay? We talk about each person,
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  Speaker 1: and we move forward and then talk about the next person.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have to use whataboutism, okay? Just because you
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  Speaker 1: bring up Clinton, you don't have to bring up Trump.
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  Speaker 1: And just because you bring up Trump, you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to bring up Clinton, okay? They're plenty scummy on their own, folks.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes this week's guest a curious pick for the
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  Speaker 1: podcast host. Rogan welcomed famed Los Angeles steakhouse chef Adam
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  Speaker 1: Perry Lang, APL Restaurant, to talk about steak and how
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  Speaker 1: Lang's ultra-high-end restaurant is faring during the lockdown. Lang is
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  Speaker 1: a renowned chef and Rogan loves meat, so that bit
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  Speaker 1: holds water. Okay, well, yeah, he is a renowned chef,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And Rogan not only loves meat,
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  Speaker 1: he's a prolific hunter. He does a lot of bow hunting,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with Joe Rogan. So, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: could see why he won't. Look, I could understand why
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  Speaker 1: Rogan would have a chef on the show, and I
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  Speaker 1: could even understand why he'd have Adam Perry Lang on
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  Speaker 1: the show. But what I don't understand is the lack
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  Speaker 1: of hard questions. That is so un-Rogan-like that I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what's going on there. Like, did he have
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  Speaker 1: a new strain of weed that he was blasting before
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  Speaker 1: the show or during the show and it made him forget?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I want to give Joe Rogan the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of the doubt more than anybody, honestly, because all kidding aside.
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  Speaker 1: His podcast is something that is an incredible resource for
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  Speaker 1: the most part. So it's just disappointing when you see
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  Speaker 1: stuff like this and you see that Adam Perry Lang
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  Speaker 1: was on there and he wasn't really quizzed the way
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  Speaker 1: he should be. But Adam Perry Lang worked for Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Rogan somehow didn't bring this up a single time
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  Speaker 1: during the two-hour interview. Instead, they talked about steak and
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Look, I get it. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. Why Rogan wanted to have Adam Perry Lang
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  Speaker 1: on the show, steaks, blah, blah, blah. I understand.
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  Speaker 2: But come on, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: There was nobody else that you could have picked to
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  Speaker 1: be on the podcast. It had to be Adam Perry Lang.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody else that cooks a mean steak. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: especially considering just recently Adam Perry Lang was... was brought
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  Speaker 1: up in the papers from The Sun, in the documents
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  Speaker 1: from The Sun, one of the 70 people. So you
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  Speaker 1: would think Rogan would at the very least have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of questions, right? Look, I have to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: friend or not, if you come on to my podcast
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  Speaker 1: or my show and you had anything to do with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, you can expect I am talking the most hardball,
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  Speaker 1: digging questions you can possibly imagine. And it won't be
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  Speaker 1: done in a nice way, to be honest with you, right?
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  Speaker 1: friend or not, you have to answer for your transgressions.
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  Speaker 1: You have to answer for your time with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, has anybody asked this guy about it? Has
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  Speaker 1: this guy really, has he ever come out and done
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  Speaker 1: a full-on interview about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein or
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  Speaker 1: what he saw while he was Epstein's chef?
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  Speaker 2: Look, there's a lot there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, the end of the day, He can
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  Speaker 1: end it all, Adam Perry Lankan, end it all by
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  Speaker 1: coming out and doing an interview and explaining his role,
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  Speaker 1: go to the FBI and tell them, look, this is
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  Speaker 1: what I saw. Let's get on record.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go on record.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's what I would do if I was
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  Speaker 1: in his shoes, but no, none of these people seem
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  Speaker 1: to care enough about the survivors to do that.
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  Speaker 2: All of these people want is for this to go away.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want it to ruin their public image and
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  Speaker 1: affect their ability to earn. That's all they care about.
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  Speaker 1: They don't care about these survivors and it's sickening to me.
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  Speaker 1: It was confirmed that Lang spent considerable time traveling with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and his crew to all the spots where Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was allegedly flying in underage girls to attend lavish parties
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  Speaker 1: he threw for celebrities, politicians, billionaires, and royalty. Lang himself
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  Speaker 1: admitted he was on some of the flights and worked
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  Speaker 1: in Epstein's homes, but told Eater in 2019 that he
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  Speaker 1: was unaware of any wrongdoing going on all around him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they all said, right? And Eater, that was
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  Speaker 1: the publication that chased him down. None of these legacy
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  Speaker 1: media outlets thought it was appropriate to try and get
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  Speaker 1: an interview with Jeffrey Epstein's private chef who was flying
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  Speaker 1: all over the world with him on the plane doing
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  Speaker 1: Lord knows what. Nobody thought that that would be an
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  Speaker 1: interesting interview, huh? Nobody thought that some hard questions should
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  Speaker 1: be asked. Boy, that legacy media sure cares about us.
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  Speaker 1: What an absolute joke the legacy media is. An absolute
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  Speaker 1: dumpster fire. My role was limited to meal preparation, Lange
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  Speaker 1: told Eater. I was unaware of the depraved behavior and
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  Speaker 1: have great sympathy and admiration for the brave women who
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  Speaker 1: have come forward.
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  Speaker 2: Well, have you come forward, Mr. Lange?
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  Speaker 1: Have you shown great courage by coming forward, Mr. Lange?
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  Speaker 1: The answer is no, of course not. None of these
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  Speaker 1: guys have come forward because guess what? All of these
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  Speaker 1: people have something to hide, in my opinion. Every single
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  Speaker 1: one of these people was an enabler. Every single one
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  Speaker 1: of these people that was palling around with Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: is under the microscope at this point. Lang hasn't offered
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  Speaker 1: any more information since the conversation. In the years after
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  Speaker 1: Lang worked for Epstein at his New Mexico ranch, Palm
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  Speaker 1: Beach compound, New York penthouse, and private Caribbean island, he's
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  Speaker 1: become the toast of the Los Angeles food scene, working
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  Speaker 1: for Oprah, Mario Batali, and Jimmy Kimmel. The latter is
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  Speaker 1: such a close friend that Kimmel let Lang live in
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  Speaker 1: his beach house after his recent separation and divorce. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that nice? Wasn't Jimmy Kimmel up there screaming down
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  Speaker 1: from his ivory tower about the rest of us and
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  Speaker 1: Kavanaugh and all these other people who were accused of
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  Speaker 1: sexual assault? Yet he has this Jeffrey Epstein associate living
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  Speaker 1: with him.
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  Speaker 2: At his house?
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  Speaker 1: This is what I mean about these hypocrites, folks, alright?
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  Speaker 1: All of these hypocrites are ridiculous. I am so against
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  Speaker 1: hero worshipping that I can't even begin to explain to
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  Speaker 1: you How detrimental to people I think it is. You
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  Speaker 1: should not be worshiping any of these famous people as heroes.
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  Speaker 1: They are all great characters and they are all capable
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  Speaker 1: of incredible evil like any other human being. Nobody, none
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  Speaker 1: of these people should be put on a pedestal, especially
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Jimmy Kimmel.
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  Speaker 2: Give me a break with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: Why Joe Rogan, a man fairly obsessed with Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: up to this point, chose not to ask a single
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  Speaker 1: question about Epstein while sitting across from one of his
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  Speaker 1: former personal chefs, who was regularly on the Lolita Express,
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  Speaker 1: leaves a pretty big question mark. And he's receiving a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ire from Rogan's fans in and on social
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  Speaker 1: media and the comment section of the episode's YouTube page.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a couple of comments from people that they posted.
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  Speaker 1: One is from Pure Optics. Shout out to Pure Optics
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  Speaker 1: from Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So these are, you know, people that are asking questions
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  Speaker 1: of why these questions weren't asked to the chef Adam
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  Speaker 1: Perry Lang. And they're good questions, right? It's legit to
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  Speaker 1: ask why Joe Rogan did not ask him anything about
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. all right that is a legit question to
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  Speaker 1: ask it's a legit criticism and that's coming from one
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  Speaker 1: of Joe Rogan's biggest fans I'll just straight up honest
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  Speaker 1: with you the guy is an incredible story as far
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  Speaker 1: as a podcaster goes and his show is just amazing
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  Speaker 1: so it's disappointing to see stuff like this right So
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  Speaker 1: the criticism is warranted and I think that going forward,
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  Speaker 1: if anybody has this Adam Perry Lang sitting down in
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  Speaker 1: front of them, you have to ask these questions, right?
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  Speaker 1: You have to ask this guy what he knows, what
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  Speaker 1: he was involved in, even if he just gives you
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  Speaker 1: a canned answer and, you know, one of those prepared responses.
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  Speaker 1: At the very least, you did your job as the
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  Speaker 1: host of the show by trying to dig a little deeper. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: they just talk about steak, et cetera, et cetera. I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's one of the, honestly, honestly, this is
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  Speaker 1: one of the worst episodes that I've ever listened to
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  Speaker 1: on the Joe Rogan experience and what are their 1,470
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  Speaker 1: episodes or something like that. So, you know, I understand
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  Speaker 1: that you don't always get it right as a podcast
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  Speaker 1: host or a content creator. Not everything is a home run.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the content is eh. But when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: situations like this and the fact that Epstein has, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Rogan has been so interested in the Epstein case, it's
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  Speaker 1: just mind-boggling to think that he didn't have any questions
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  Speaker 1: for Adam Perry Lang in regards to his relationship with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously, no one has to be fully accountable
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  Speaker 1: for their associates or employers, but this topic seems like
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  Speaker 1: a pretty large elephant to leave standing in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, nobody is responsible for all of their friends
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  Speaker 1: or their boss or anything like that. Nobody's saying that, okay?
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this man was obviously around. He
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  Speaker 1: was on the planes. He had first-hand knowledge. He witnessed
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  Speaker 1: things first-hand. To say he saw nothing, you'd have to
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  Speaker 1: be real naive to believe that, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: So... It's warranted to ask this man, what have you seen?
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  Speaker 2: What do you know?
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  Speaker 1: But Joe Rogan took a different approach in this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a disappointing situation. Because usually Rogan would be
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  Speaker 1: all over it, right? So you can understand why people
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  Speaker 1: are disappointed, and you can understand why people have questions.
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  Speaker 2: I would hope that in the future.
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  Speaker 1: If Perry Lang ever comes back onto the show, that
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  Speaker 1: Rogan would ask him some harder questions, and really... you know,
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  Speaker 1: travel down that road because the audience wants to know.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to know what Adam Perry Lang saw and
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  Speaker 1: what he can add to the case. So he should
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  Speaker 1: really come forward, talk to the investigators and clear his
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  Speaker 1: name if he wasn't involved. But again, the only outlet
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  Speaker 1: that has chased him down is Eater in 2019. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't a story for the legacy media. Nobody in the
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  Speaker 1: legacy media wants to talk to this guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: think about the resources that the legacy media wastes on
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  Speaker 1: dumb shit on a regular basis. But this guy, who
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  Speaker 1: was a personal chef on the planes, named in the documents,
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  Speaker 1: nobody wants to talk to him? Rogan doesn't even ask
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  Speaker 1: him any questions? In my opinion, none of that is okay.
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  Speaker 1: Adam Perry Lang must be questioned, and he must answer
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  Speaker 1: why he was around Epstein for so long, and how
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  Speaker 1: he can possibly say he did not see anything out
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  Speaker 1: of the ordinary. I am sorry, but I do not
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  Speaker 1: believe that, and I don't think anybody who is following
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  Speaker 1: this case believes that. We know that all of these
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  Speaker 1: people have the same excuse. Oh, I didn't see anything.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't around anything.
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  Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: And they've been allowed to get away with that. No
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  Speaker 1: hard questions. Nobody's challenged that. Everybody's just been like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: he said he didn't know anything.
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  Speaker 2: So he's good. He's good to go.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the Biden campaign coming out and saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: the Times investigated this and they gave us a pass. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's not good enough. Hard questions need to be asked.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, on this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, that.
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  Speaker 2: Was not accomplished.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hope going forward that Adam Perry Lang is questioned
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  Speaker 1: in the proper manner by authorities or the legacy media.
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  Speaker 1: And let's see just exactly what what Adam Perry Lang knows.
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  Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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  Speaker 1: at bobbycappucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can
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  Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I.
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  Speaker 2: All right, folks.